Did Kazrog do it AGAIN?

[@japmn1]

You missed a lot of features. If you click the logo in the middle, you get pre plugin in and out gain as well as mix and warmth (mid range) filter, i fyou click and drag on the lamp icon, you get entrophy, which offsets how exact the left and right side track. You can also access entrophy from the cog at the top of the plug in. Big GUI fail here, but it is a fantastic compressor once you find the hidden features.

[@M.W.777]

Thanks for that!! I appreciate you!

[@paulmisty8998]

this is because the GUIT is bs

[@BeatsWithKev]

Yeah, even the manual basically says that most of the knobs are inaccurate compared to the hardware, and to follow the pop-up digits instead 😂 Still a very solid compressor with very little CPU hit in my testing.

[@NikolausBrocke]

A great gui does not hide features. It structures the functionality and helps for a quick workflow. Probably a good sound. But the interface is not user friendly.

[@justanotherpeasant3442]

Thanks for pointing this out. I think a lot of viewers may have missed it.

[@elrevert]

Click the MHB logo and you get the additional warmth/entropy controls. Starting to get frustrating that you don't read the manual before reviewing stuff. I understand you're trying to give a first glance opinion but a lot of people will be relying on these videos for solid info before making a purchase.

[@JoeyFTL]

At this point I'm convinced it's pure laziness.

[@xanderpills]

True, also would be great if Wytse had a bit more, uh, patience with the testing. More systematic testing with a bit more varied audio clips

[@jiachengli2446]

yeah, def want to hear the plugin on single instruments instead of the whole mix

[@KYTHERAOfficial]

Something in between would be nice. Its nice to see how intuitive something is to use but yeah maybe just have one quick view over the manual checking for hidden controls.

[@Kunibert_Knatter]

It has never been a good idea to hide some functionality behind an obscure non-control. Well, no, actually its is a bad idea to hide functionality behind an obscure non-control. A very bad idea! And does a plugin with 3 controls needs to have a manual? Really?

[@alexmoore7517]

I have the feeling this format would be much better if you read the manual of the plugins before. It's often funny to watch how you find out what the plugin does as you go but you're also regularly missing out on features and thus misjudging the product. Thank you for your great content, keep it up :)

[@PrinceEfue]

Reading the manual and understanding the plugin thoroughly will be a responsible and fair thing to do in other to pass a sound and quality judgement. Some of us rely on your video to make purchase and even use the plugins

[@VinceJackson1]

You get a back panel if you click the logo. Theres input, output, mix and a warm knob to control the saturation curve 😁

[@tobytodelafontena]

I tested this plugin and it's an amazing quality software compressor. But, indeed, I absolutely don't need it. But Kazrog is one of the best brands out there.

[@helisoma]

True Iron is still my favorite plug-in...i use it in every track ...like you mention it just makes everything more alive

[@robertjason6885]

Me as well. True Iron first on every track.

[@colinhoek]

What kind of magic CPU do you guys have?

[@helisoma]

@@colinhoek i just use a one year old Mac mini ☺️

[@BlackenedNL]

Kazrog is a cool company with fair prices

[@Palobanzai]

I'm in love with Kazrog and analog Obssession's plugins

[@KazrogPlugins]

Thank you!! 🤘

[@MPHORROCKS]

I understand your gripes but for many of us, having the chance to get such a rare piece of hardware in our DAW is pretty irresistible, even if we don't need it! I respect your expertise and great taste in music and would really have liked a more thorough and unbiased review of whether the MBH actually is as good as many think it is. I have tried the demo and think it sounds great. I also love the retro photorealistic GUI as it helps me 'make-believe' I 'kind of' have the hardware. I felt disappointed that you didn't give Kazrog, whose praises you've sung in the past, a little more consideration. Just my opinion, mind.

[@mazy-beats]

I really like Kazrog. I use True Iron and KClip in every project. But I don’t need another compressor in my collection-I already have too many to choose from.

[@chriscancookup]

Could you make a video on all the plugins you actually use. I saw your recent video of your mixing studio, but would be interested in seeing what plugins you do use regularly.

[@Whiteseastudio]

Next week

[@Luke-ot6mk]

Actually this thing is awesome in a drum mix bus. Great plug-in

[@Jake_Sachs]

Man, you always have the coolest demo songs!

[@justanotherpeasant3442]

It's such an unusual looking Comp, but having tested it quite extensively now for the past few days, I think I can safely say Kazrog have done an amazing job with this. It sounds absolutely fantastic!🎶🎵💗😄

[@iamcrisis187]

I actually like this thing a lot on vocals as my 1st vocal compressor in the chain. Did I need it? No. But I got it anyway. LoL

[@slash196]

You don't need it unless you're going for that Michael Brauer sound, which I DEFINITELY am.

[@dernuniverse9813]

Beautiful beast of work Kazrog Rock

[@larslarsen439]

best plugin ive seen in a while

[@Pheekofc]

Do we really need a 4772th compressor option?

[@XohVidz]

yes lol

[@yurikalashnikov2460]

I already bought it lol

[@Middlestepofficial]

When the lack of features on the GUI leads you to want to remove the screws from the knobs.

[@stayinspired2027]

Hi Whytsea does the plugin show any aliasing in the top end in plugin doctor? It does sound kinda harsh in the top end compared to real tubes

[@tom.niesner]

SOMETIMES you're too fast... Don't judge bevor checking out ALL components and features! :-)

[@TheOne_Tube]

I think when they where adding the "tube test switch" they were thinking of you testing the plugin and had a nerdy laugh ;)

[@KazrogPlugins]

The thought actually did cross my mind during beta. I knew he'd have a field day with this one. That said, the intent wasn't to troll or mess with someone we respect, just simply to represent this one-of-a-kind hardware. As Wytse noted, we'll be adding a non-skeuomorphic UI option to our plugins soon in a free update.

[@WisdomHouseCreative]

​@@KazrogPluginsImagine all the hardcore tone nerds turning that knob and believing they hear subtle differences. When others can't hear it, they'll say, "Damn bro, do some ear training!"

[@nanoturner4484]

Exactly my thought ... I certainly had a good laugh at the guy 🤣🤣

[@DerSilvano]

If Wytse doesn't incorporate the tested plugin in his workflow, is it even a good plugin?

[@idreaminstereo7802]

I could’ve sworn that Brauer went completely ITB over 2 years ago.

[@dykodesigns]

The complete opposite of these skudomorphic user interfaces is what Roland still uses on a lot of their gear: a “menu diving” style user interface. I.e. a rotary encoder that is also a pushbutton and that has a 2-line character LCD screen next to it. A device like the MC-101 actually has quite a few built-in plugins (effects mainly) but I’ve always got to look at the manual for the parameters.

[@Funkspace]

There’s a few reasons for the interface being a replica of the original hardware and none are to do with usability and making music. They’ve replicated as far as they can on both the audio processing and the look. It can help in terms of marketing, and hell, it’s as close as I’m going to feel like I’m tinkering with a piece of mystical analogue gear. That being said, plugins that have a skeuomorphic interface REALLY SHOULD also have an easily accessible alternative, well thought out and efficient modern user interface. Give the user the best of both worlds -and I mean the best.

[@KazrogPlugins]

Working on it. 😎

[@draculea3669]

Love the kazrog!

[@KazrogPlugins]

Thanks so much! 🤘

[@Jazzguitar00]

"It's a great plugin but you don't need it" is true for every plugin at this point TBH. It's just about whatever gets you the sound the fastest and easiest.

[@pluginhoarder]

It’s hard for me to not throw this on my mixes, I think it sounds amazing ❤

[@dizmix]

"Creamy" is how you describe it. 👊

[@realcasper81]

The power led has a hidden feature too

[@werewolfmedialv]

"You don't need it" The dopamine release mechanism in my head that loves to get new plugins seems to disagree sir!

[@sparella]

My dopamine release mechanism is a bit lower down... No not that low! My stomach! Cheers

[@mofateam1]

We know how much 😅you love those fancy GUIs.

[@troeteimarsch]

But you do need True Iron! :D

[@dimocka79]

I have both : True Iron, and now: MHB Green. They sounds completely different. yes: they both gives this great distortion and warmth to the mixes, but again : True Iron - is an different transformers emulation, and sounds great. MBH Green has different character, and yes, - tube compressor emulation. And depending on the genre of the song or music,- they gives that 3D warmth to it. And most important: on the master bus i don't need to think too much, - just few plugins: 1. reso - repairing eq, 2. one of these great units ( Kazrog ), 3. EQ/ Dynamic EQ 4. Clipper/Limiter. DONE.

[@deividasgnedinas7592]

"gives 3D warmth" :D :D :D :D

[@80s_kid]

Sounds great! (I really like Sandstorm by Darude because I always hear something new in it, it's never boring.🙃)

[@xadovitch6630]

I really like their true dynamic plugin

[@KazrogPlugins]

Thanks! This picks up a bit where that left off, in the sense that this hardware is a bit more bizarre and unruly than the more common (but still rare) variable Mu compressors we modeled in that plugin.

[@brianmansfield666]

What free plugins do the same or near?

[@jeromejamies3641]

A lot, but this bew olugin gives you the opportunity to spend some money, that what money is for!

[@siggidori]

I mean ... I didn't need this plugin at all... but I pretty much bought it right away after trying it (and after I learned how to tone it down) 😅😇

[@cefk9944]

I never had any regrets after buying a Kazrog plugin, yet .. but, I can read ;)

[@fleshtonegolem]

What a waste of pixels in the GUI. It's obnoxious.

[@Morjensful]

Tbh most will only use one preset and just touch treshold. I will do that via ableton slider :D

[@jeromejamies3641]

Inspured by Acustica Audio, also the name

[@dannyjonze]

why don't you read the manual first?

[@DazzleRebel]

Where's the fun in that? 😉

[@jeromejamies3641]

The sloppuestvreview I have evee seen, not worth a penny

[@abletonclipper16]

Completely agree... Why include a knob that doesn't have any purpose. Even if it's staying faithful to the look of the original hardware, the aesthetic is already set with the rest of the plugin display.

[@Yannleon_video]

Thanks for the review! Can't wait for your video about your most plugins used. (even if I already know that Fabfilter might be in the top 3! ) ;-)

[@Whiteseastudio]

Coming soon!

[@taks359]

It's very CPU intense no ?

[@redvivid]

Atleast they were honest about the tube thing 😅

[@jeananto]

READ THE MANUAL BEFOOOOORRRE!!!!

[@p0dlyryszard]

6:26 priceless reaction 😂😂😂

[@cURLybOi]

the developers seem to be really conflicted in their philosophy. on one side, they mock dinosaur licensing dongles (good call, btw), and on the other side they include obnoxiously outdated hardware-based gui with a fully non-functional knob taking up space "just because it looks like the original"... like come on, i get stylizing plugins to look like some hardware but this did NOT need to be included. and furthermore, what's up with correctly greying out the treshold when non functional, but keeping the attack/release knobs working when non functional. pretty inconsistent

[@KazrogPlugins]

You're definitely not wrong to say any of this. In fact, the reason why attack/release are NOT grayed out when they're non-functional is actually a total oversight, and will be corrected in the next free update. Also, we'll be adding a non-skeuomorphic (but still well designed) UI option to this and all of our plugins soon.

[@BrofUJu]

Yeah, the fact that there's attack and release that at points don't even do anything drives me crazy, enough to make me not want to buy it, lol

[@cURLybOi]

@@KazrogPlugins thanks for the reply. it should be pointed out that i never came into contact with any of these legendary physical devices so it's not triggering any nostalgia on my part. thus i came into music production without any preconception. skeuomorphic design isn't bad by itself, for example knobs are in many ways more usable than sliders or numeric entries for several reasons. but i appreciate the fact that you lurk in the comments and collect feedback, you clearly care about your plugin :)

[@KazrogPlugins]

@@cURLybOi In this instance, there is only ONE known AWA G7201 Limiting Amplifier in existence, and it's the one Michael Brauer has that we modeled here. So, it's impossible for anyone to be nostalgic for something they've never even seen or used. For us at Kazrog, part of what we enjoy recreating isn't just the sound but the look of analog hardware, because it's often visually interesting and quirky. We like making plugins that have character, and we feel that the visuals help to represent and compliment the sonic character. That said, I think we're at a turning point in the industry where many producers out there share a similar sentiment to what you've shared here. We'll continue to find ways to imbue the user interface with character while improving usability, visual efficiency, and intuitiveness.

[@MN-tw1qj]

@@KazrogPlugins I have to say, you have come here with absolute grace. First, Wytse totally missed 25% of the plugin, then tells people that they don't need it, then people comment in here with total abandon, thinking the guy who pours his blood, sweat, and tears into the plugin won't see it. I own a few of your plugins, and I really appreciate them, and the humility you're showing here. Cheers

[@RichCurtisDJ]

Another plug-in you need 4 hands to efficiently operate?

[@georginikolov1141]

This is the comp puts to sleep 99 percent of plugins.Lindell 2500 this and Molot ge Kotelnikov Ge Unisum that's all u need compression wise..

[@AH20XX]

I have it. Love it!!

[@robertjason6885]

I think the GUI needs a redesign. That said, there is something almost child-like/wonderment….In a good way….watching Wytse discover the operating functions of gear.

[@Freedom4Ever420]

I love knobs that you can not use.

[@KazrogPlugins]

Same! 😆

[@jeromejamies3641]

You don't need this plugin if you already bought plugins before 2021

[@wkelly-hn4kb]

Does sound great..I don't have anything yet ..so we'll see.

[@hugosilvacfh]

Buddy, seriously, wtf with this "you don't need it, don't buy it" argument? Seriously, what it has to do with the review? You act irresponsibly by saying this kind of thing. Too much for "freedom to express your opinion, or independent view" (and a bit patronizing to younger audio professional/ enthusiasts, actually). I wish you all the success, really, dont take me wrong. But you're acting like a clown most of the time with this shenanigans.

[@TRXST.ISSUES]

I bought this after demoing the stereo bus presets some days back, the irony is I'm having a hard time using it in tracks. It does something to the stereo character that sounds unique and cool but it's hard to have it play well with other character boxes. Maybe I'm a sh!t engineer xD but that's been my experience so far. Btw, if interested in hardware I'd love to see you demo the G24 Passive Compressor by Gyraf. The thing is so smooth and transparent without the "falling asleep" character of a vari mu. It might be my first major hardware purchase, that or a good SSL G buss comp.

[@crymearobot]

Dracula costume please

[@theonenonlybass]

too much yapping and not enough testing.. you forgot a whole feature that was somewhat hidden

[@bupkis7505]

Here you are yapping and not making a video 😂😂

[@robertvangameren9735]

Would be nice if you'd also change the music as examples during the video's, like synth or acoustic guitar. instead of.. oke, maybe even together with this Gloria. E sound, if it's absolutely necessary and possibly only if it brings more world peace or cure certain diseases:)

[@adijames]

At this point, you attempting to “review” a plugin without giving the developer the courtesy of at least reading enough of the manual to prevent you misrepresenting their work - makes for a horrible viewer experience.

[@KYTHERAOfficial]

Great plugin but you dont need it.. thats becoming really a theme lately. But yeah we still get some innovative stuff here and then, Wouldnt say plugins are done. But it does get indeed very noisy.

[@beehype46and2]

Comment for da algorithm Streak count: 279 Somehow missed this one

[@AutPen38]

Great video, but you don't need it.

[@ladex142online]

Enliven? What happens to Liven? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@MrXikwriNeyrra]

One funny useless knob for obvious symmetry's sake should make you laugh and enjoy, don't be so rigid, man! If you read the manual is not confusing at all and you just missed some cool hidden stuff on the MHB central logo and the analog entropy parameter on the green light or the setup menu. I demoed it before clicking buy against all my digital comps. UAD API 2500, 1176 and LA-2A collections, MJUC, Unisum, FirComp2, TDR ones, other ones less meaningful like shadowhills etc... Only Unisum with hygge on and MHB Green have "that sound". It behaves silkly, it grabs the transiens Olympically, 3D ness and aliveness... It has that "air"... I didn't need it, but it made a bunch of my comps gone to trash bin. I'm not the fan of signatures like CLA, Andrew, MHB etc. etc. Nor I'm looking for that sound or specific emulations, bus or mastering comp. Just the best ITB can possible deliver so far... and for me this is one of those jewels available in the market today. Easy to use, fairly light on CPU, aliasing free, I don't mind the ugliness and screws, I love and support small companies like Kazrog, Toneprojects, TDR, U-HE etc! I'm very happy with it!

[@dna598]

try clicking the logo. You're welcome.

[@JohnnyFehr]

i know you always hate those "analog" looking interface. but sometimes they are very handy that when you know the real unit that you find the settings you are looking for right away in a digital replika of it. Sure on such an easy Knob layout like on that unit its not a big deal but thinking of other units with more knobs and complex layout it makes a lot of sense. even for example you watch a video about the real unit it helps to navigate then in the digital version. i am sorry but your rage against the analog interface sometimes is a bit weird...

[@KarlProducer]

Great plugin testing 😊

[@paulmisty8998]

You should NOT need to read the manual for a ridiculously easy to use compressor like this one! If you need to read the manual just to find out that you can click and drag on the lamp, this is stupid UI design. It's more important to make it look like the hardware. Screws and so...

[@magneticfilm]

Dude read the manual before

[@williamk6605]

Read it yourself.

[@jackflynn-oakley1937]

Horrendous GUI

[@The_wandering_troubadour]

Doesn't sound like something I'd want to spend 50bucks on!,

[@graublau733]

Big GUI fail on this one. The sound itself is ok, but nothing you can't achieve with the other gazillion compressor plugins available.

[@Fire-Toolz]

call me a transgender experimental millenial producer with ADHD but i never care about plug-ins that look like this. like i got the 1176 & the yadda yadda but i just want my plug-ins to look like a 3 year old's coloring book. tired of this boomer shit. lol

[@KazrogPlugins]

That's fair! 😆

[@ruudheadz7095]

...here we go - why oh why? is that realy needed ! #vstcon

[@nature-g2l]

Hi snake oil exposer... I would like to add my expert oppinion... those 'virtual analog' plugins should be called 'virtually nothing'. 😂

[@paulmisty8998]

The GUI is a mess. On the one hand they want to make it look like hardware, but on the other hand you can drag the lamp to make an adjustment, which is a stupid contradiction. I don't want screws. Screw you.

[@rothzn]

Very bad review.

[@PearHellforge]

snake oil studio

[@peterorany]

Gui even worst that acustica audio made. 👏🏼🤦🏼🤮

[@TigroGumi]

The trolled you lol... with something that makes no difference whatsoever to the attributes of the plugin... it's when a complaint become snake oil ;)

[@TigroGumi]

This also might be why they put something usless... becuase they have normal visuals coming... so make a stupid one first to then be like "turda!!!" and give you a very normal interface

[@KazrogPlugins]

@@TigroGumi I promise you it wasn't some kind of premeditated decision to generate a storm in a teacup and monetize online annoyance. 🤣 We just wanted to represent this one-of-a-kind hardware both sonically and visually. The pivot of the user base into preferring non-skeuomorphic designs has been a gradual shift over time, and is by no means some kind of unanimous agreement, so I think it's important to provide some user control over the visual style.

[@uniquetune0101]

*what is this guy actually doing ? he downloads a plugin, turns the knob completely without a plan and after 5 minutes he makes a judgment !!! what is this nonsense ??? what is the point ???*