One Year Timber Stand Improvement Response!

Matt Dye of Land & Legacy shows us the response of a site that had aggressive timber stand improvement done one year ago. The amount of forage and cover has increased dramatically compared to closed canopy forest and the usability for deer, turkey and other wildlife is exponentially better!
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:13 Opening canopy via crop tree release
1:15 Benefits after one growing season
2:08 Examples of plants that responded, stump sprouts/woody browse
6:00 Open area, more herbaceous plant response, crop tree release
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[@seanbalch7563]

I like the tidbits on Burnweed. I’ll store that in the memory bank. Thanks Matt.

[@Whitetail_Properties]

Couple tidbits here and there and you are well on your way!!

[@redriveraerialphotography5780]

One of the best videos I have seen. Thank you!

[@Whitetail_Properties]

Glad you liked it!

[@stevebostic9812]

So good and explained well! Thx!

[@Whitetail_Properties]

Glad it was helpful!

[@JayN4GO]

I had mostly thorn thistles come back. 10 ft tall. Anyway advice on what to use to create walking trail to the stands? Maybe a scythe

[@jarrodlambert3914]

Love your videos very knowledgeable

[@Whitetail_Properties]

Glad you're finding them helpful!! That's what we are here for!

[@Whitetail_Properties]

Glad you're finding them helpful!! That's what we are here for!

[@stevebrown3408]

Looks good , did a spot on Feb/march this year but I never cut enough >I did burn mine off first .

[@Whitetail_Properties]

You can always get back in there and cut some more!

[@thenaturespunisher2644]

Question. What months do you cut down trees to a stump for re-sprouting? For species such as hickory, black cherry, or maples.

[@jonwagner2045]

When I do this in PA all I get are ferns. Any suggestions?

[@rchadayers]

Important Question: What are you going to do about the larger stump sprouts in a few years when they are large enough to start shading out the floor again? Same question for the smaller sprouts when they out reach the browse pressure and then just turn into a large umbrella shading the floor? Thanks for the continuous great content!

[@Whitetail_Properties]

If you are managing the site with a relatively frequent fire interval (every 2-3 years) that should set back a lot of the woody re-sprouts from trees that you fell and did not treat with herbicide. If the fire intensity is too low and it doesn't set them back, you can mechanically set them back once they get too large. But frequent fire should do the trick. Hope that helps!

[@JP_BowHunter]

Do you have to use fire, or can just hinge and flat cut when the trees get to tall?

[@calebhemric6986]

I understand y’all had to do TSI either cutting down the trees or hack and squirt but did that vegetation and cover come up without prescribed fire?

[@Whitetail_Properties]

Yes. Prescribed fire will be introduced in year 2 or 3.

[@travissmith-wz5nc]

This the property from thp? As a Michigan boy I was shocked had some shoots 12 14 ft tall after 2 yes

[@Whitetail_Properties]

Nope, this is Matt's home farm in SW Missouri. We do plan on getting back to Aarons family farm for an update and to see the progress soon! And yes some species will certainly get that tall after 2 growing seasons, it shows how drastically you can change a timber stand in a short period of time!

[@alanwhite4839]

Should you burn that in a couple of years? How do you maintain it ?

[@Whitetail_Properties]

Yes, ideally you'll want to burn every 2-4 year depending on the response and what level of succession you want to keep the site in.

[@paulcrave3112]

What state are you in?

[@Whitetail_Properties]

This example was in SW Missouri!

[@TomBTerrific]

Personally I just don’t like having the falling timber. Brambles for me are not desirable. Don’t care if deer like them. Perhaps TSI modified. lol of course I would enjoy seeing them burn baby burn… with prescribed fire. Being new at all this I keep thinking when trying to improve habitat shouldn’t we also be looking at minimizing future work required to maintain the desired result.. like chop and squirt which lets the tree stand which also opens the canopy but reduces debris on the ground.

[@dougkraemer8327]

Why would you not have a timber company do the cut and sell the timber instead of just leaving the trees on the ground. Seems like you are losing money.

[@aotec89]

Some of the trees are just junk and loggers won’t mess with it. Not profitable timber is pointless for them to cut

[@Whitetail_Properties]

On this particular site there was a select cut done and some marketable walnuts and oaks removed. The remaining trees were undesirable or not marketable. It ultimately comes down to what your goals are for the timber stand. Are you managing it for the timber value? Or are you managing it for wildlife value? Or in some instances both, but making that decision before you pick up a chain saw is important.

[@tylercourson785]

Because the trees they'll cut are likely the ones you'd want to save for deer/wildlife. I've even heard of some logging companies coming in and taking whatever they want even if the contract states differently

[@willieclark2256]

It may seem like it however the loggers and skidders always get paid full price for their work even though the mill may pay less than that for the lumber, so often the landowner is more out of pocket having it logged than just doing it yourself

[@TomBTerrific]

@@willieclark2256that’s if you contract out the cutting and removal separately right? Typically I would think they bid on the standing timber. One lump sum then go in and remove it and sell to the lumber company without land owner involvement. Isn’t that how it typically works?