Who are the Bruderhof? A Rapidly Growing Anabaptist Church you need to be aware of | Est. 1920

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@HannahJH-gd2vt
@HannahJH-gd2vt 11 ай бұрын
Hi! I am a Bruderhof member and find the comments hilarious, esp from people who haven't visited us..... A few corrections on your vid: all the adults have access to the internet anytime through our mobile phones, which I'm using at the moment 😂 I do not cover my head, as this is a choice that members make based on their interpretation of the Bible. So some do and others don't. Most of the pics you used are quite old..... Outreach is important to us, we do NOT want to be isolated from the world. We welcome visitors! I volunteer at a café serving the homeless in Dover (and any tourist that happens to walk in) every Saturday, otherwise I'm a full-time teacher. I love teaching innocent children whose parents believe in the same God that I do, so I can freely talk about Jesus without being fired.... Which will most likely be happening soon to Christian teachers all over the world in these last days. And to all the naysayers on this channel....come visit us first! Personally, I'd love to talk face to face. We are, after all, just....people!
@DainetheHistorian
@DainetheHistorian 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comment @HannahJH-gd2vt! I have pinned your comment so everyone can see your corrections. Some of the comments on this video are very inappropriate and illustrate that they either did not watch the full video or are interpreting everything in a way that conforms to their preconceived notions. However, the angry commenters are in the absolute minority. Since posting this video, I have received numerous emails from Christians who are now interested in joining or visiting the Bruderhof and asking how. I have been directing them to the Bruderhof’s “Contact Us” website page. Also, the positive comments do outnumber the negative ones heavily, although unfortunately, they are not being promoted as much by the KZbin algorithm as much as the negative comments are.
@HannahJH-gd2vt
@HannahJH-gd2vt 11 ай бұрын
Thanks Daine, I do appreciate the care you took with this vid, I'm not in any way criticizing it! I'm mainly responding to some of the comments. The other thing I most likely should have said is that we, like any group of Christians, have much to work on to be truer to the Gospel message. We pray for a fresh outpouring of the Holy Spirit as happened in Acts, with accompanying signs and wonders. We can't possibly live in community without that!! 🔥May it happen in 2024 🙏🙏
@DainetheHistorian
@DainetheHistorian 11 ай бұрын
Very well said Hannah. I really appreciate your honesty. May it happen in 2024 indeed! Also, you are able to edit your original comment to include other points you would like to mention as well.
@HannahJH-gd2vt
@HannahJH-gd2vt 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, I just didn't want my original comment so long that nobody would read it 😂 All the best, Daine! And keep doing what you're doing 👍
@mavismalpenny3782
@mavismalpenny3782 11 ай бұрын
Most people love their sin and when people try to do anything contrary to the worlds values, its very confronting to them. God bless you. Its not for me, but I can understand the value of living in community. Life in the western world is so isolating, consumer driven. Its easy to see why there is so much mental illness.
@Carole-c8l
@Carole-c8l 11 ай бұрын
I spent 3 days with the Bruderhof community in the UK with my husband and 3 young sons in the late 90's. They let us live with them, my husband worked in the workshop, I worked in the kitchen, and my sons went to school. My favorite memory is the singing before the communal meal, and my sons really enjoyed milking cows. A wonderful experience!
@DainetheHistorian
@DainetheHistorian 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comment @user-gz2hf3iy3u! That is awesome. Glad you enjoyed your experience with them. I can't wait to visit a Bruderhof community myself.
@charlesjohnston1506
@charlesjohnston1506 11 ай бұрын
In the 1970's when I was in college, I was part of a "community" who were trying to be like these Anabaptists. We lived in financial community, too. Each donating their income to the common purse and receiving, in turn, room and board, healthcare, transportation, etc. As I recall, we did receive an occasional allowance and were encouraged to use it for gifts for others. We also gave as a community to needs we became aware of. We ate together each evening and worshipped both in church and at home. It was a rich experience for which I am grateful. Thanks for this reminder of those formative years.
@jlotoo850
@jlotoo850 11 ай бұрын
So, what happened?
@CyclingM1867DubbysMama
@CyclingM1867DubbysMama 16 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing this video about these Christian brothers and sisters who have chosen ro live in a community together while still reaching out to the world and ministering to it. I've seen some of their videos, and have seen nothing but a genuine love of God and a desire to live together in peace and to be of service to the world while sharing the Gospel. This is what being a Christian is all about - not necessarily living in a community like the Bruderhof, but sharing the Gospel and helping others and fellowshipping with other believers.
@jakeo2806
@jakeo2806 11 ай бұрын
I have visited the Bruderhof twice and am going back for a third visit in April. They are SO not "isolated" from the world. They actually encourage their children to spend time outside of the community (at least a year) to ensure that this way of life is the right one for them. About 70% of children return to the community - 30% don't...and the Bruderhof thinks this is actually good. As one member said, "If 100% wanted to join, we're doing something wrong." Families are not separated if the children go a different way. In fact, one of my hosts is going to Cancun soon with her non-member son and his family. These are very good, accepting people of strong faith. Associating with them has been an amazing learning experience.
@HannahJH-gd2vt
@HannahJH-gd2vt 11 ай бұрын
Welcome to our community! May God richly bless you! 💖
@bcncadulteducationvoluntee2466
@bcncadulteducationvoluntee2466 10 ай бұрын
Jake, this comment of yours "Families are not separated if the children go a different way." is a very welcome recent development. I left the hof 40 years ago and there was a season of almost a decade when my family would not even take any calls from me. I was not allowed to attend my dad's funeral in the late 90's. It's only in the past decade or so that they've totally reversed those positions. Much pain was caused to hundreds of leavers over the previous many decades by this separation of families. The Bruderhof hasn't made any collective apology to all of the leavers for this painful approach they had. As people approach them now seeking some sort of acknowledgement that there were systemic problems, not just within individual families, the apologies as a whole have not been forthcoming. I'm blessed to have renewed contact with my family on the hof, but not all of my siblings have admitted that their approach to me in the 90's was wrong. I'm not sharing this out of bitterness, but just to clarify your impression of things there.
@LarryXLR
@LarryXLR 2 ай бұрын
I will say that Eberhard Arnold had done EXCELLENT work in translating the original writings of the Apostolic Fathers. His work in analyzing the works of the primitive church for the benefit of us all is unmatched.
@bethdinga7675
@bethdinga7675 6 ай бұрын
I love them here in our community. Wonderful ppl and very community minded. Very intelligent skillful and kind God fearing people are the first things that come to mind.
@Sarah-m3n8w
@Sarah-m3n8w 11 ай бұрын
I spent a day with a Bruderof community and seriously considered joining. Amazing people!
@DainetheHistorian
@DainetheHistorian 11 ай бұрын
Glad to hear @user-fd9qj8es1d! I want to do that someday.
@jlotoo850
@jlotoo850 11 ай бұрын
But you didn't---tell us why...
@gailcurl8663
@gailcurl8663 11 ай бұрын
DON'T BE DECEIVED!! SATAN is pulling you towards this "GODLESS CULT"!! Focus on GODS WORD, TRUTHS AND PROMISES!!
@Sarah-m3n8w
@Sarah-m3n8w 11 ай бұрын
@@jlotoo850 I wouldn’t have been able to take my dogs with me. Also, there is not enough privacy-people simply walk into each others’ apartments/homes. And one woman hinted that there was favoritism in terms of who got bigger homes. And you have to do what the elders decide. I guess I’m too independent and introverted. I would never call it a cult, however. I did not get that vibe at all. Just a rather insular, structured faith community.
@jakeo2806
@jakeo2806 11 ай бұрын
@@Sarah-m3n8w My first question to them was about my two dogs and two cats. In fact, they come with me on my visits - and on our last walk of the day - we have a parade since the two cats come along! So - they definitely accept pets now...and many families and older people have pets as well. The apartments do have entry doors that can be closed - I thought it was lovely to see them open, and see grandchildren running in and out to see grandma and grandma without a long trip and an invitation.
@deutschermichel5807
@deutschermichel5807 11 ай бұрын
As a German I must correct your mistake: „Bruderhof“ does not mean “place of brothers” but rather _farm_ , _court_ , _yard of brothers_
@ImaRockStarPR
@ImaRockStarPR 11 ай бұрын
Can you kindly tell me what einfahrt and ausfahrt means at McDonalds (forgive my misspelling). Does that have something to do with the food?
@derrickcox7761
@derrickcox7761 11 ай бұрын
@@ImaRockStarPR an infant is indoors the assfart in public.
@nataliebraun7285
@nataliebraun7285 11 ай бұрын
​@@ImaRockStarPR "Einfahrt" is where You supposed to drive in. "Ausfahrt" where You supposed to drive out.
@deutschermichel5807
@deutschermichel5807 11 ай бұрын
@@nataliebraun7285👍
@archstanton9182
@archstanton9182 11 ай бұрын
The pronunciation of Hof should be with a long O, not a short O. (Rhymes with go).
@denisehart5875
@denisehart5875 11 ай бұрын
Even though I'm not Mennonite. I graduated from Eastern Mennonite College in 1990 and believe I received a great educational experience there.
@DainetheHistorian
@DainetheHistorian 11 ай бұрын
That is great to hear @denisehart5875! Thank you for your comment.
@adiospobreza
@adiospobreza 11 ай бұрын
Cool!
@kristag7208
@kristag7208 11 ай бұрын
I very much enjoyed the video and learning about the Anabaptist church and origins. As a follower of Jesus I can appreciate the fellowship this Christian community has.
@donmilo4733
@donmilo4733 11 ай бұрын
I would just like to say these people are spot on this is exactly how Jesus would wish us to live I wish I could join them don't know how God bless you all.
@Noone-rt6pw
@Noone-rt6pw 3 ай бұрын
Look up Bruderhof on you tube or Google Bruderhof is probably better! But you tube has several Bruderhof videos and by different members!
@sgtrvn01-sb1zl
@sgtrvn01-sb1zl 11 ай бұрын
WOW !!! What a wonderful group of people.
@karinberryman2009
@karinberryman2009 11 ай бұрын
Our son visited them in the Hunter Valley in 🇦🇺. He stayed over a couple of nights in a barn with some of the young brothers. Enjoyed it immensely.
@DainetheHistorian
@DainetheHistorian 11 ай бұрын
That is awesome! I just looked it up....Hunter Valley looks absolutely stunning.
@kciwner
@kciwner 11 ай бұрын
They sound like a beautiful family of believers.
@cherylmockotr
@cherylmockotr 11 ай бұрын
These Bruderhofs do sound attractive, except for one thing... we are not supposed to separate ourselves from the world! We are supposed to be IN the world but not OF the world. We're supposed to be salt and light to the world. We are supposed to serve and heal the world just as Christ modeled for us. None of this can be done if we isolate away from the world and dress as if we're frozen in a random point in time. This smacks of the way the Deceivor works... present mostly Truth but twist a few subtle details. Basically, he has won with these people, as he's kept their light under a barrel and removed the saltiness from them 😢
@tehZevo_
@tehZevo_ 11 ай бұрын
The Bruderhof do interact with the world though. One example is through their businesses, e.g., "Community Playthings". They also have a KZbin channel with frequent uploads, so it's hard to argue that they aren't making any outside contact or that they fail to evangelize. I would also caution against using "dress as if we're frozen in a random point in time" as an argument, as culture continues to shift away from modest dress in favor of overly sexualized styles. Dressing to meet the expectations of modern society is not a requirement of Matthew 28:19-20.
@davidgodoy826
@davidgodoy826 11 ай бұрын
Yes if you isolate and focus only on your own that’s selfish, Jesus Christ never isolated himself from sinners and people of need.
@reubenmiller7988
@reubenmiller7988 11 ай бұрын
You saw it
@gts3004
@gts3004 11 ай бұрын
No you're wrong, most pentecostal holiness type churches throughout history have taught that believers must dress holy as scripture commands. This means women must wear dresses . Even some orthodox jews do this.
@jmbbk4737
@jmbbk4737 11 ай бұрын
I agree with you, but the video did say some money goes to outreaches. Never the less, it would be nice to have that concept in any community without that one big restriction. Isolation. Grounds for twist or treat. I was raised on a farm and eveyone down and up the road helped out each other one way or the other. Some would not even consider themself Christian. Have a pleasant weekend.
@FabledNarrative
@FabledNarrative 11 ай бұрын
With a society in moral decay, communities like this seem appealing more and more.
@jlotoo850
@jlotoo850 11 ай бұрын
Until you literally have to vow to give up absolutely everything you own or will ever get--including your Social Security checks. Then, if you get kicked out or want to leave, you can't ever get your Social Security money etc......
@fadedglory1045
@fadedglory1045 11 ай бұрын
Ya until you are in there. No. Cults are never a good thing.
@Ballykeith
@Ballykeith 11 ай бұрын
Religious groups have their own record of abuse of women and children. Mennonites in Bolivia, or in the news today, albeit a very different community, the late T.B. Joshua of the Synagogue Church of All Nations.
@Window4503
@Window4503 11 ай бұрын
What’s the point of being salt to society if you’re leaving due to the moral decay that you’re inherently slowing down by being in the world? That would make you unsalty. Likewise, the world seeks comfort and ease and hates suffering. The world would LOVE if you avoided conflict with it and simply packed up Jesus and left your post-all the places you had an impact or could have one-to make your own earthly life easier and less distressing. I mean, isn’t that what IT values and how IT would handle the situation? You hate worldliness but would leave the world by following its own worldly values to justify your actions. So not being in a “righteous enough” community isn’t the problem then, is it?
@CyclingM1867DubbysMama
@CyclingM1867DubbysMama 16 күн бұрын
​@@fadedglory1045a cult? The Bruderhof people are not part of a cult. They're a genuine Christian denomination who've chosen to live in a close knit community together.
@marlenewhite2054
@marlenewhite2054 11 ай бұрын
I followed a thought that came into my mind "Did they evangelize in the Old Testament?" Actually they did. They posted on their homes who they served and welcomed strangers. So that would be the same as these "set apart" sects. I believe they are living and conducting their lives according to the scriptures. Their dress is NOT frozen in time. The world drifts further and furher from God so their dress becomes more and more ungodly.
@Ihdgbkj
@Ihdgbkj 11 ай бұрын
That’s not what “set apart “ means. This is spiritual not physical thing Like “ do not conform to the world”
@yohanan5947
@yohanan5947 11 ай бұрын
The Waldensians were pretty much precursors of the Anabaptists and were persecuted heavily by the church in Rome. They joined the reformation of Luther and got absorbed into the protestant movement. You should make a video on them too, especially since these groups (termed heretics of Valdois by the papal church) existed even before the Reformation.
@nrgnovator2427
@nrgnovator2427 11 ай бұрын
RE: THE WALDENSIANS --Actually, yohanan5947, you are not entirely correct. Although some of the Waldensians did join up with Luther and other reformers during the 1500’s, some did not, and survived into recent times. They were not simply absorbed into other groups. How do I know this? In the 1970’s, I visited and worshiped with Waldensians in two of their communities in Uruguay. I also knew Uruguayan Mennonites who knew the Waldensians well, and were quite comfortable with closely associating with them. So while they may not be very numerous compared with other groups, and do not have a very strong or very visible organizational structure, they DID NOT disappear. Hmmmmm..... Just like the early church in many ways………..
@DainetheHistorian
@DainetheHistorian 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comment @yohanan5947! You make some very valid and interesting points. I've added them to my research list!
@Pooua
@Pooua 11 ай бұрын
I'm guessing that you are acquainted with the Waldensians through one or another of the Baptist histories, such as "The Trail of Blood" by J.M. Carroll. I was excited to discover, nearly forty years ago, that the Waldenses still exist. In fact, a large Waldense community has been in North Carolina since the 19th Century, as I recall. I wrote to that community and exchanged several letters with them. They sent me several booklets on their group. I had hoped to visit them for their centennial celebration, but my finances did not allow it. I regret to say that in modern times, the Waldenses have formal fellowship with the Roman Catholic Church *and* endorse LGBT+ (homosexuality, same-sex marriage).
@ElonMuskrat-my8jy
@ElonMuskrat-my8jy 11 ай бұрын
​@@PoouaThe Trail of Blood 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 that's as reliable as tits on a boar.
@jrusalam919
@jrusalam919 6 ай бұрын
Wow this was very informative and I can't help but notice you have an excellent voice!
@lauracwiklinski9083
@lauracwiklinski9083 11 ай бұрын
Very interesting. Thanks for making this video
@DainetheHistorian
@DainetheHistorian 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment @lauracwiklinski9083! Glad you enjoyed the video.
@StanleypeterDickinson
@StanleypeterDickinson 11 ай бұрын
Pharmageddon Is Popish Ratlines Spare Not Mercy Don't Look Back Without Being Circumspect.
@RHStephanus
@RHStephanus 4 ай бұрын
We would like to visit a Bruderhof; are there any near the Minneapolis, MN area? Thanks!
@Martin-r6g
@Martin-r6g 3 ай бұрын
Yes, there is a small house community called Crossroads Bruderhof Community in Minneapolis.
@richardhildreth4471
@richardhildreth4471 11 ай бұрын
The original church did not separate from society. It remained in society to spread the good news of Christ's gospel and to serve others. By serving the poor around them, the church had to be intimately involved with its community. In fact, the primitive church was one of the first social welfare organizations.
@meyaomeyao
@meyaomeyao 11 ай бұрын
Yes! And the early church baptised entire households, not just the adult members of the household
@Pooua
@Pooua 11 ай бұрын
@@meyaomeyao No evidence that the households so baptised consisted of non-adults. In fact, all baptism in the Bible is of people who could make the decision on their own, as opposed to being hand-carried while helpless and non-verbal.
@andrewgeissinger5242
@andrewgeissinger5242 11 ай бұрын
@@meyaomeyao Acts 8:37 says "If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest." So I guess that means that everyone in those entire households you are talking about must have believed with all their hearts.
@meyaomeyao
@meyaomeyao 11 ай бұрын
@@andrewgeissinger5242 I have no reason to believe otherwise
@meyaomeyao
@meyaomeyao 11 ай бұрын
@@Pooua the scriptures referring to baptism never exclude children.. Surely when John leapt in Elizabeth's womb it was for joy, having faith in his savior.. It's a mistake to assume God withholds saving faith from babies simply because they do not possess the ability to articulate it.
@Highlyblessed_favored
@Highlyblessed_favored 3 ай бұрын
Im from charismatic denomination and even our church we believe in 'grown ups' baptism. Not necessarily adult but someone at least grown enough to understand,,, if I can personally gauge, I'd say 15yrs+... If they have done otherwise before, ive never seen it. We are usually taken to baptism classes before the act itself and taught about baptism and reference scriptures and take notes and we pray then prepare for the baptism itself. After that, we go into prayers again, this time, we pray for the baptism of the Holy Spirit. And then chapter closed. We are given even certificate of baptism, its not important but its just a reminder of the decision that you made on that day. I find it beautiful😊
@CyclingM1867DubbysMama
@CyclingM1867DubbysMama 16 күн бұрын
I'm not part of a Bruderhof community - I'm a Mennonite Brethren and went to an Evangelical Free Church for a number of years when I was growing up. While some people do call it "adult baptism," many allow older children to be baptised like I was when I was 12. I had a firm grasp of what I believed and had shown my commitment to living a Christian life from when I asked Jesus into my heart at five years of age. Not everyone at 12 is able to really understand or to make that commitment, but some do. I like to call it "believers' baptism" as it's something those who truly believe and have chosen to live their lives as dedicated followers of Jesus should choose freely to do. An infant or young child isn't old enough to understand the commitment of what it takes to follow Christ. Not every twelve year old is, either, and for some people, it comes later on in life. I was baptised by immersion, and it's cool that other groups do sprinkling or the like.
@Yallquietendown
@Yallquietendown 11 ай бұрын
This group is interesting. At least people are trying to get back to early Christianity. Communal living is still practiced in eastern orthodox monasticism.
@bugsocsollie1694
@bugsocsollie1694 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's just more of those "Chridtians" who do not understand that Israel and the Body of Christ Church are two different churches with two different Gospels, and end up mixing doctrines of the two into one doctrine.
@chris2790
@chris2790 11 ай бұрын
​@@bugsocsollie1694there is one gospel. And the gentiles are grafted in.
@bugsocsollie1694
@bugsocsollie1694 11 ай бұрын
@chris2790 what is this "one Gospel?" Paul said that the Gospel is the power of God unto salvation for anyone that believes it. Romans 1:16. What is that message of good tidings that can save a person just for believing it? It is that Christ died for our sins, was buried, and He rose again the 3rd day for our justification. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 Jesus' Gospel was that Israel's promised kingdom is finally at hand. Mark 1:15. This Gospel of the Kingdom is what Jesus sent out the 12 (and the 70) to preach to Israel only. It was this Gospel of the Kingdom that Jesus said would be preached in all the world before the end comes. Matthew 24:14 The Disciples had no idea that Jesus would be dying for our sins when they went out preaching their Gospel. It absolutely can not be Paul's Gospel of Grace that saves us today. Israel was about to face their 70th week, and that is what all their NT Scriptures were in perfect context of. Only Paul said that day is not at hand. Israel's 70th week never came because a Dispensation of Grace for the Gentiles came instead, and this Dispensation came because Israel fell in unbelief. Romans 11:11-12
@br.m
@br.m 11 ай бұрын
Eastern orthodoxy is not Christian though. So how is it relevant to the topic of Christianity?
@br.m
@br.m 11 ай бұрын
@@bugsocsollie1694 What the heck are you talking about sir? How come I didn't understand any of that? Is what you wrote important? Can you help me understand? Would you rephrase your important message? So Jesus did not die for my sins? John the Baptist was lying when he said Jesus is the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world?
@BloodCovenant
@BloodCovenant 11 ай бұрын
Awesome video. One thing missing in this movement, that was NOT true of the Moravians, was that the Morivains had a passion for missions among the ungodly in this degenerate world. While they (the Moravians) separated as a community, they were very much involved in pursuing salvation for the lost ungodly dead heathens of the world. The original Anabaptists were of a similar persuasion and mission. Many don't know this, but John Bunyan, author of Pilgrim's Progress, was an Anabaptist.
@greatexpectations6577
@greatexpectations6577 11 ай бұрын
I think I have watched all of your videos now. I find Hutterites and Mennonites fascinating - all that who descended from the anabaptist movement.
@DainetheHistorian
@DainetheHistorian 11 ай бұрын
Thank you @greatexpectations6577! The anabaptists are very fascinating indeed and are an impressive people. Appreciate your support.
@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr
@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr 11 ай бұрын
I got to know some conservative mennonites and I found it to be mostly a superficial deception. Many people idealize them. But the truth seems to be that they all have control issues and see no problem with being a doormat or even abused. That's called being godly. Authority is paramount, above respect, above everything. And that's how high control religions end up with sweeping abuse under the rug and enabling it. Victim blaming. They're not that fascinating in a good way. They just obey and wear certain clothes and have to cook a lot because they have to. The truth is that they are trapped. Everyone they've ever known is that group, their entire family. And if you don't get out before you get married then you're really stuck. So many ways to trap a person and control them. It's all about power and control. Different than healthy ways of living yes, but should not be romanticized. I find cults fascinating as well, but they are still a cult.
@annep.1905
@annep.1905 11 ай бұрын
Anabaptists and Baptists actually more or less predate Catholicism, although not necessarily under those names.
@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr
@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr 11 ай бұрын
@@annep.1905 Cape dresses were around before 1054? I don't know the history. I know cape dresses are extremely important to mennonites. Gotta have them! If you're a woman at least.
@annep.1905
@annep.1905 11 ай бұрын
@@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr Not the dresses, just the faith. Dress changes some over time.
@michaelrredford
@michaelrredford 11 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@DainetheHistorian
@DainetheHistorian 11 ай бұрын
Thank you @michaelrredford! Appreciate your support!
@rogerpeterson7581
@rogerpeterson7581 11 ай бұрын
As a born again, fundamental, bible believing Christian, I have no objection to the AnaBaptist belief system and way of life. In fact I was a member of a group in the late 1960's early 1970's that lived just like this. It was an off shoot of Calvary Chapel called Shiloh Youth Revival. We lived on 70 acres in Oregon and ministered the gospel targeting the Hippie movement. We sent missionaries all around America and it was a thriving ministry. So God bless them as they share their faith.
@lizvu3266
@lizvu3266 11 ай бұрын
One thing I can't grasp about these groups that try to emulate the early church is why they don't study the early church. To be sure I admire much about groups like these. But to try to understand the intricacies of 1st century Christian life by just studying the New Testament is wild. Orthodox Christianity is a testament to the life of the early Christians. We are practicing the same way now that we did 2000 years ago. I wish they could read some of the writings of the early Church Fathers or visit some of our Churches in Antioch Greece or Egypt which have been there in the same place, same building, worshipping the same way for well over a millennia, some almost close to two!
@bondee5865
@bondee5865 11 ай бұрын
This is a honest and good report. My Church family didn't encourage watching television nor listening to worldly music. To this day I cannot find very much Godliness in either. It seems like a Church that looks after one another's well-being.
@Window4503
@Window4503 11 ай бұрын
Because for the last time (even Paul says this), asceticism does not lead to righteousness. You can avoid whether you want. But you forgot that Jesus says what goes OUT of a man makes him unclean. Sin is from YOUR HEART not a TV show or living in the wrong church community. Only the gospel can fix that. Keep chasing the ideal life and you’ll have wasted years looking for the perfect place when the problem is what’s IN you not around you and the solution was always in your hands: The Word. You want godliness in your own community? You go and show love to them without expecting anything. That’s godly regardless of how you feel.
@bondee5865
@bondee5865 11 ай бұрын
. Christians, let your light . ( . ( . ( . S H I N E .) . ) . .) . ( . (( .( .i i i j i i i I .) . ) .) .
@DainetheHistorian
@DainetheHistorian 11 ай бұрын
What are your thoughts on the Bruderhof? What would you like to see next? Let me know!
@MartinSchnak
@MartinSchnak 11 ай бұрын
In Germany they are closely monitored. We currently have the problem here in Germany that everything that is Christian and family-oriented is viewed as subversive. They are considered a threat because they could be a cult. We don’t have the homeschooling option like the US does. Here our children are confronted with bad topics. just an example: for primary school students there are sex education topics that explain what fetishes there are and how to use anal toys... they are also working on replacing the word parents for carers...etc... I really like how detailed you explain everything. ..thanks....can you please make a video about the strictest Amish Swartzentruber? ... the way you explained the Hutter, I'm now a big fan, thanks again .... greetings
@SpotterVideo
@SpotterVideo 11 ай бұрын
New Covenant Whole Gospel: Who is now the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? Why did God allow the Romans to destroy the Old Covenant temple and the Old Covenant city, about 40 years after His Son fulfilled the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 in blood at Calvary? What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word. Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. What brings all local churches together into one Body under the blood of Christ? The answer is found below. Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him. He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth. Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD: Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? What did Paul say about Genesis 12:3 in Galatians 3:8, 3:16? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24. 1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. 1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. The following verses prove the Holy Spirit is the master teacher for those now in the New Covenant. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Mar 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. 1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. Watch the KZbin videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.
@byhisstripes2713
@byhisstripes2713 11 ай бұрын
Thw Bruderhof and the hutterites actually divided in the 1950s, and reunited in the 1970s, only to separate in 1995. Its been a rocky road. They are a very controlling group
@br.m
@br.m 11 ай бұрын
No, it is too much of a cult. They have no infant baptism too that's silly.
@yohanan5947
@yohanan5947 11 ай бұрын
@@br.m The Bible stresses that baptism is to be done after repentance. Acts 2:38 - Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Not sure if infants have the slightest clue about sin and repentance (from a Biblical context). How then, can an infant be baptized?
@stephaniewood9608
@stephaniewood9608 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this information
@ivancarlson5846
@ivancarlson5846 11 ай бұрын
What a wonderful find! I remember Bedstamor who settled in Luck Wisconsin after coming through Ellis Island about Ana Baptist ancestors. Apparently they baptized in the canals at night since Luthernism was the State Religion in Denmark 🇩🇰 at that time. She was a Sorensen, known in the family as a peacemaker and woman of prayer 🙏
@UtopiaVoyages
@UtopiaVoyages 11 ай бұрын
It is growing. Since last year I suddenly came across few families ranging from SE Asia to North America.
@donnamcdonald3709
@donnamcdonald3709 11 ай бұрын
Early church also was blessed as they celebrated the Bible Sabbath.
@RachaelGiglio
@RachaelGiglio 11 ай бұрын
I have a dear friend who was raised in one of the bruderhof communities. I was even able to visit one time with her, she had left, but was still allowed to write and visit on occasion. However, sadly the leaders of the community eventually made her parents and siblings cut her off and she wasn't allowed to contact them after that.
@protestanttoorthodox3625
@protestanttoorthodox3625 11 ай бұрын
Talk about a tradition of men… most of these sects are literally named after the men that started them
@fadedglory1045
@fadedglory1045 11 ай бұрын
Ugh right! Cults are never a good idea.
@jakeo2806
@jakeo2806 11 ай бұрын
"Bruderhof" means "house of brothers".
@rebelfrog3
@rebelfrog3 7 ай бұрын
​@@fadedglory1045There is no bigger cult than societies controlled by centralized governments.
@fadedglory1045
@fadedglory1045 7 ай бұрын
@@rebelfrog3 agree. The two cults that are destroying our country are perfect examples.
@salt1956
@salt1956 11 ай бұрын
I get it. I understand the desire to separate from the world, which is brim full of ungodly people, even, regrettably, so is the church. Personally, I can't see myself being happy in a community which tells me and my wife what to wear, eating meals together like a youth camp and controlling the use of the internet and TV. I enjoy my freedoms. I enjoy social media, TV and the internet. The Bruderhofs are growing, you say, but with only 3,000 members worldwide. That's small, but pretty good for a Christian community where you have to pool all your finances. Very few people would do that. Their facilities look excellent and so are their business plans for income generation. Their ban on joining the military sounds nice but all it says to me is that they are happy for others to do the fighting for them. I don't think that flies in real life.
@johnsmith-ro2tw
@johnsmith-ro2tw 11 ай бұрын
This sounds like what one would expect to hear from a boomer. "my freedom" above all. The Church talks about freedom. Freedom is not about being able to do whatever we want when we want. But it's too long to elaborate here. About military, they are right. Pretty much all wars are about seizing natural resources for big Capital. They are not about defending the nation against bad men attacking on their horses. It's 21st century, not 15th.
@fadedglory1045
@fadedglory1045 11 ай бұрын
Like the JW's all to happy to take from society but never give back. Only help their own. And the abuse is never reported . And there is a lot!
@Window4503
@Window4503 11 ай бұрын
You know the reason you need Christ is because you’re ungodly on your own, right? And you know the reason you are where you are is to attest to the grace and mercy of God, right? And that those ungodly people need what you have spiritually just as badly as you do?
@jakeo2806
@jakeo2806 11 ай бұрын
I think it's more - they don't want ANYONE fighting - and won't participate in it. They are not pacifists. They are non-resisters. There is a big difference. Even Quakers (pacifists) will fight for what they feel is a just cause - as many did in the Civil War. A non-resister means that they will not take up arms against another person, or take the life of another person - even if they lose theirs in the process. They don't want ANYONE to fight and die for them.
@salt1956
@salt1956 4 ай бұрын
@endtimesareuponus8930 Yahweh definitely teaches fighting in the OT. Jesus did make a whip and attacked the stall holders in the temple. If that happened today he would have been charged with assault and malicious damage to property.
@jim-bob-outdoors
@jim-bob-outdoors 11 ай бұрын
I lived in the same village as the UK site. Nice people, the way of life is not for me but it is a simple way of life.
@redmatters9318
@redmatters9318 11 ай бұрын
Chokely oppressive and tyrannical. Obeying is a form of totalaterism. No god or king can save you. You've got to free yourself from want . So bad . Learn to think for yourself. G'day from Australia 🇦🇺
@Acontinuist
@Acontinuist 11 ай бұрын
The first church held to holding property in common, but not as a rule, with the belief that the Lord was returning soon. It was something they chose to do, not God ordained. If that systems was feasible in the long term, God would have orchestrated it with Israel, through Moses. If believers chose to live that way, thats fine. But as a rule, not so!
@DainetheHistorian
@DainetheHistorian 11 ай бұрын
You bring up very valid points @Notacessasionist. I appreciate your comment! The Anabaptist's believe that the Book of Acts is "prescriptive" whereas most other christians interpret it as "descriptive".
@Acontinuist
@Acontinuist 11 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@goodday23456
@goodday23456 11 ай бұрын
I had some ancestry family members that were Anabaptist, but their view was you could/should be baptized often. At any rate, I do believe in immersion water baptism and feel that once is sufficient, with sincerity to be clean from sin is the ordinance,(order) as Jesus and John set that example, and I believe the covering for women is their hair in 1Corr 11. According to that Chapter, which is a bit unclear; that's, also, only if she's praying or prophesying in the congregation; not all the time. Besides, women have been set free in Jesus Christ, not to sin, but we are free to uphold godliness and to pursue godliness with our only yoke being Jesus, who has made all things new in Him. (2 Corr. 5:17). The pope is not the spokesperson for Christ Jesus, and he is definitely fallible. There's no male or female in Christ Jesus Gal. 3:26-27-29; and in Jeremiah 31:22, Joel 2; and in Hebrews 8, we all should know God, which we do when we've truly obeyed Acts 2:38; Acts 16:30-33; Acts 9:17-18; Acts 22:16; Acts 4:12; Acts 19;1-7; Romans 6:1-4; Mark 16:15-16; Mark 14:24; Mark 16:9, and entered into His New Testament Will & Covenant. Rev. 19:1-10.
@CyclingM1867DubbysMama
@CyclingM1867DubbysMama 16 күн бұрын
I was baptised by immersion when I was 12, and, yes, once was enough to show my commitment to follow Christ. I've never before heard of any sect that believes in people being baptised often - this is fascinating!
@cathcolwell2197
@cathcolwell2197 5 ай бұрын
I’m interested in this community but I am old and cannot work a lot so would not want others to look at me as lazy- tho it sounds good. I have worked very hard all of my life and would love to be with worshipful people.
@GallupGardens
@GallupGardens 11 ай бұрын
Why did they split in the 90s?
@RiverDanube
@RiverDanube 11 ай бұрын
It’s sad to see people following the ideas of their leaders. Just one look at the thumbnail shows older females in head scarfs but younger ones, without. You’ve really got to have something missing if you feel the need to follow strict rules made by others.
@derrickcox7761
@derrickcox7761 11 ай бұрын
I tried to follow you once, but your brain was missing.
@mariekatherine5238
@mariekatherine5238 11 ай бұрын
Women don scarves when they get married, or when they join the church. It has nothing to do with mindlessly imitating someone else. Each community, whether Hutterite or Bruderhof is self-autonomous in many areas, dress included.
@RiverDanube
@RiverDanube 11 ай бұрын
@@mariekatherine5238 It's not about imitating anyone. We all imitate someone in some regard or another. It's about mindlessly following another persons rules that they personally establish. Many religions are like this, the leaders love the power to control their followers and the followers mindlessly abide by their rules, no matter how ridiculous they are.
@katiefountain2407
@katiefountain2407 11 ай бұрын
​@@derrickcox7761I understood OP just fine.
@fadedglory1045
@fadedglory1045 11 ай бұрын
🎉 THIS
@davidcunningham2074
@davidcunningham2074 11 ай бұрын
an inspiring group and an antidote to our atomized modern world.
@jlotoo850
@jlotoo850 11 ай бұрын
Although this group has 99 out of 100 things correct---the one thing that is the clincher is---THEY decide where you work, what you do, when you can see your parents--if you will even live on the same continent as them, etc., etc. You give up your individual right to make your own decisions--leaving everything for the community to discern for you. So, in essence, the Community becomes your God--telling you what to do, where to go, who to minister to, and how, etc. So in effect--THAT makes it a cult. I have been there many times over decades, and agree with so much. However THAT is what has kept me from joining them. I will give up my individual rights to self-determination to no one but GOD alone! THAT is the point where they go too far. They are lovely and loving people---but underneath it all, there is a controlling aspect that is not Biblical. In Acts people were controlled by the Holy Spirit. At the Bruderhof, you are controlled by the Community.
@oreocarlton3343
@oreocarlton3343 11 ай бұрын
​@@jlotoo850amen, amish have that kind of control as well, their community becomes theri God. Weather you have money or not when someone preaches no private ownership it's alarm time
@fadedglory1045
@fadedglory1045 11 ай бұрын
An inspiring group? We need to work on people's ability to see cults and how to be critical thinkers.
@oreocarlton3343
@oreocarlton3343 11 ай бұрын
@@fadedglory1045 many of their values are inspiring doe
@fadedglory1045
@fadedglory1045 11 ай бұрын
@@oreocarlton3343 these are values of good decent people. If a person reads the Bible the depravity of the world is part of the end times. The "good" will stand out and be lights in a dark world. Their values are just extreme living conditions. I know atheists that have extremely good values and morals. It's not a corner market that the Christian's own. 🌺 keep your eyes open and think critically. Cult life is no life at all.
@JohnDolan-y7y
@JohnDolan-y7y 11 ай бұрын
What am I missing? Rapidly growing but only 3000 members?
@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts
@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts 11 ай бұрын
A strict non violence and non politicality is vital, but so is evangelism.
@tomlehr861
@tomlehr861 11 ай бұрын
What type of evangelism
@Ggdivhjkjl
@Ggdivhjkjl 11 ай бұрын
How does that work in Australia where voting is mandatory?
@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts
@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts 11 ай бұрын
@@tomlehr861 Door to door, placards and sandwich boards, handing out pamphlets, letters, informal conversations with unbelieving colleagues, whatever works, but you gotta be doing it.
@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts
@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts 11 ай бұрын
@@Ggdivhjkjl Its a negligible fine to not vote, plenty of unbelievers don't bother to vote anyway.
@Window4503
@Window4503 11 ай бұрын
@@tomlehr861Sharing the gospel. There is no “type of evangelism”. Just tell people about Jesus with gentleness and respect. You know that.
@tiedyedsouthernfried3137
@tiedyedsouthernfried3137 11 ай бұрын
Sounds like the Bruderhof are some of the few people in this world living according to God's principles. We should all embrace this way of life.
@HannahJH-gd2vt
@HannahJH-gd2vt 11 ай бұрын
You're always welcome to join 😂
@geoadventure996
@geoadventure996 11 ай бұрын
I know some of those Bruderhof people. They don't have salaries and love God. Love those people.
@DainetheHistorian
@DainetheHistorian 11 ай бұрын
Glad to hear you love them, they really do seem like great people. I hope to know some Bruderhof members one day!
@threearrows2248
@threearrows2248 11 ай бұрын
It's an attractive thought to isolate from the sinfulness of this world with my brothers and sisters in Christ. But witnessing to the world is our burden, and in the likeness of Paul and the Apostles, I will do it with joy. But man, to just be with my church family on a beautiful property, making lots of babies and praising the Lord... Sounds beautiful.
@Window4503
@Window4503 11 ай бұрын
Isolate from the sinfulness of this world? What about from yourself? We’ve done this before with monasteries. Believers foolishly thought they’d finally feel more pure and closer to God when they left the world and locked themselves away only to discover “Hey guess what? I’M why I need a Savior!” Part of spreading the gospel message and being a Christian is realizing that on this side of heaven, your poo stinks too. Still will for now. The only difference is that you know Someone that won’t condemn you for it because of his atonement.
@rubenoeschger5728
@rubenoeschger5728 11 ай бұрын
Cults practice isolation which is not Biblical. The Anabatists were prosecuted in the early days because of their believes and water baptism.
@jakeo2806
@jakeo2806 11 ай бұрын
@@Window4503 The Bruderhof are not isolated. They have several Bruderhof's that do outreach to university students - as well as doing service work among refugees in various parts of the world They also work in local group outreach in their local communities. They believe in spreading Christianity by how they behave towards each other and their neighbors..not using a lot of words. Just showing what is possible. (I am going back for my third visit in April.)
@jeffwatkins352
@jeffwatkins352 11 ай бұрын
People are strange creatures, and religion makes them stranger still! Interesting video. Appreciated the warning, whether you meant it as that or not. I was born in a Mennonite hospital (long since renamed) so it was interesting to learn the name of that sect's founder.
@tammiklusewitz7141
@tammiklusewitz7141 11 ай бұрын
"Isolated communities"? I understand Bruderhofs to be very open to visitors and interacting with local communities. How does that signify 'isolated communities'?
@OldGriz406
@OldGriz406 11 ай бұрын
People say isolating when you separate yourself from the world. Meaning you do not take part in what you believe is worldly things and lifestyle. Most people like Hutterites, Amish, Mennonites, and even some who are more mainline Christians are not closed off to the world. But they get labeled this way by some. It's not true. They welcome people and are out and about in the community for business etc. But when they separate in ways like not sending their kids to government schools, don't fellowship or have close friendships with people who do not hold to their beliefs. These groups have certain beliefs which set them apart from others in their mind. So they seem to to me to be following what Paul says according to their belief. Paul said this. "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you. And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty." They don't shun other people to my knowledge. I know people from all these groups, and we talk often. But I hold some beliefs to them that are very worldly, and I understand their view on it. I respect them and they respect me. It's always crazy to me when people paint them as these isolated people.
@nicholaschrist1086
@nicholaschrist1086 11 ай бұрын
I just thought it meant that they are friendly and welcoming. But remain living separate from the world. If they didn't interact with world then they couldn't be salt and light in anyway.
@bondee5865
@bondee5865 11 ай бұрын
Tammik.. Your right, I don't see how they're isolated.
@CharlietheWarlock
@CharlietheWarlock 11 ай бұрын
Im uh just sticking with the southern baptists, they have great food
@HannahJH-gd2vt
@HannahJH-gd2vt 11 ай бұрын
Hey, we also have great food 😂
@CyclingM1867DubbysMama
@CyclingM1867DubbysMama 16 күн бұрын
​@@HannahJH-gd2vtso do us Mennonites. Some of my favourite memories are of Faspa on Sunday afternoons that my mom or one of her sisters or sisters-in-law prepared, and everyone gathering together for a really good time, or even just my parents and brother and me. Food is such a huge part of Christian fellowship and is something we can all relate to and it brings so many people together. 😊 Faspa (I don't know if I'm spelling that correctly) is a smaller meal in the later part of Sunday afternoon because the Sunday lunch is often the big meal on Sunday, or it used to be. I remember hearing about how a lot of Mennonite Brethren churches (my denomination) would stay after church for lunch, which was a big meal. Thus Faspa became a thing.
@sadieesther9721
@sadieesther9721 11 ай бұрын
The Hutterite communities in Montana are so interesting. The ones around great falls also wear polka dot bonnets. I wonder what the origin of that is.
@CyclingM1867DubbysMama
@CyclingM1867DubbysMama 16 күн бұрын
There are some Hutterite colonies in Saskatchewan in which the women also have the same head coverings. I think that they're connected through family connections somewhat.
@qazyman
@qazyman 11 ай бұрын
Praise God!
@DainetheHistorian
@DainetheHistorian 11 ай бұрын
Christ is King!
@Ggdivhjkjl
@Ggdivhjkjl 11 ай бұрын
Why did they separate in 1995?
@NAGANDRANALMURUGIAHKPM-Guru
@NAGANDRANALMURUGIAHKPM-Guru 11 ай бұрын
I love this video very much. Well done.
@DainetheHistorian
@DainetheHistorian 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comment @user-ld3cj9oh6j! Appreciate your support.
@supersmart671
@supersmart671 11 ай бұрын
There is also another tradition apart from Reformers and Catholics. The East churches did not get involved in the Reformation controversies.
@farashahanem
@farashahanem 11 ай бұрын
Neither did the Anabaptists. They did not come out of Roman Catholicism, but were one of many groups of true New Testament churches who were persecuted by the RC system throughout the Dark Ages.
@MP15aug
@MP15aug 11 ай бұрын
People have tried this many times but it only works on a very small scale.
@fadedglory1045
@fadedglory1045 11 ай бұрын
And usually so much unreported abuse. The kids the wives and the isolation.
@petespencer8813
@petespencer8813 11 ай бұрын
LOVE THIS RELIGIOUS PERSPECTIVE
@DainetheHistorian
@DainetheHistorian 11 ай бұрын
Glad to hear @petespencer8813! Thank you for your comment.
@LarzGustafsson
@LarzGustafsson 11 ай бұрын
I love them!
@mailill
@mailill 11 ай бұрын
The head covering is no longer mandatory for the Bruderhod women, at least not in daily life (I don't know if they still use it during worship).
@DainetheHistorian
@DainetheHistorian 11 ай бұрын
Interesting, I did not know that. Was that a recent change? Thanks for your comment @mailill!
@mailill
@mailill 11 ай бұрын
​@@DainetheHistorian I thought it was quite recent (2-3 years ago) as I think I remember reading something about it then, but then I watched a video with Laura from the Bruderhof who seems to say it has always been a free choice whether and when to wear a head covering.
@tomaseire
@tomaseire 11 ай бұрын
You should make a video presentation of the Reich Church, Brown Synod and Ludwig Müller - Reichsbischof. Martin Luther and his interesting writings on the Jewish people would also make a great video!
@DainetheHistorian
@DainetheHistorian 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comment @tomaseire. Sounds interesting, I will check it out!
@Pooua
@Pooua 11 ай бұрын
@@DainetheHistorian He's being a jackass. I can't tell if he actually is anti-Semite (pro-neo Nazi) or is trying to besmirch Christianity, but he's a jackass either way.
@CyclingM1867DubbysMama
@CyclingM1867DubbysMama 16 күн бұрын
I agree.
@35mayocynthia
@35mayocynthia 11 ай бұрын
Do the bruderhof believe that you are saved by grace not by works?
@HannahJH-gd2vt
@HannahJH-gd2vt 11 ай бұрын
Saved by grace, but works are also important according to the Bible James 2:14-26
@protestanttoorthodox3625
@protestanttoorthodox3625 11 ай бұрын
So glad I converted from Protestantism to Eastern Orthodoxy. I grew up in a home church similar to these Anabaptists
@waltershumer4211
@waltershumer4211 11 ай бұрын
Why?
@protestanttoorthodox3625
@protestanttoorthodox3625 11 ай бұрын
@@waltershumer4211because Protestantism is heresy.
@waltershumer4211
@waltershumer4211 11 ай бұрын
@@protestanttoorthodox3625 protestantism is pretty gay. But show me a Christian group with birth rates like these bruderhoff people? Everyone else is below replacement levels.
@derrickcox7761
@derrickcox7761 11 ай бұрын
Out of the pot, into the fire?
@surfboy344
@surfboy344 11 ай бұрын
​@protestanttoorthodox3625 listen to any sermon by John MacArthur, Voddie Baucham or Alistair Begg and tell me where the heresy is.
@Valhalla369
@Valhalla369 11 ай бұрын
What a lovely bunch they are. I hope the governments where they are takes good care of them and protects them.
@patricewassmann212
@patricewassmann212 11 ай бұрын
They are well able to and do take care of themselves. They are educated and have doctors, nurses, teachers and profitable businesses among them. They do not rely on government support.
@Valhalla369
@Valhalla369 11 ай бұрын
@@patricewassmann212 that makes them all the more beautiful!
@HannahJH-gd2vt
@HannahJH-gd2vt 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, Valhalla, you are kind. I think all true Christians will be persecuted for their faith, however.... And we are no exception, esp if the govt is run by liberals, so we do a lot of praying about the future!!
@MóTee1
@MóTee1 11 ай бұрын
Who came up with the infant baptism confusion? 🤦🏽‍♀️😭 Like how does a baby die to self when they are yet to know what self is?
@ElonMuskrat-my8jy
@ElonMuskrat-my8jy 11 ай бұрын
They are baptized to enter into the kingdom of God like Christ commanded. They are born again in water and the Spirit and healed of the Ancestral Sin and united to the Body of Christ. Christ commanded to let the children to come to Him and not forbid them. This only happens in Orthodoxy though. We've done this for 2000 years.
@CyclingM1867DubbysMama
@CyclingM1867DubbysMama 16 күн бұрын
​@@ElonMuskrat-my8jythere are a lot of groups outside of the Orthodox churches that practice this. I don't agree with it, though, because infants aren't able to choose for themselves to follow Christ. Baptism is a sign that someone has made that commitment and are willing to follow Christ no matter what. An infant can't make that decision themselves.
@MrZanescott
@MrZanescott 11 ай бұрын
You should do a video on Eastern Orthodoxy.
@Kefa...
@Kefa... 11 ай бұрын
Catholicism vs Relativism 💫
@Tabbyfrombirmingham
@Tabbyfrombirmingham 11 ай бұрын
So many heresies under the pretence of offering something « special ». Schismatic cults have been part of Christianity since the beginning, but only one true church has successfully bought forward the message of Christ.
@ronsmith7236
@ronsmith7236 11 ай бұрын
How about doing one on how their article's of faith came into existence? Like the schleitheim confession and the dortrecht confession?
@DainetheHistorian
@DainetheHistorian 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comment @ronsmith7236. I made a video about the Schleitheim Confession early last year. A video on the Dortrecht confession is a very good idea. I've put it on my list!
@ronsmith7236
@ronsmith7236 11 ай бұрын
Thanks as I grew up amish and was baptized upon the dortrecht confession
@reich5150
@reich5150 11 ай бұрын
Love the gossip perspective
@derrickcox7761
@derrickcox7761 11 ай бұрын
I'm telling on you!
@yahuchanonyakov
@yahuchanonyakov 11 ай бұрын
I lived in a Christian community very similar to this, for about 11 years in South Carolina, back between 1997-2008....
@mawi1172
@mawi1172 11 ай бұрын
The Bruderhofs sound like they're more Christian than MOST of the detractors here. That's for sure.
@jakeo2806
@jakeo2806 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for that. Not a member, but always find the finger-pointing and pompous pronouncements from other "Christians" so interesting. They scorn the legalism of the Pharisees, but adopt it for their own purposes. Jesus told us not to judge - but they feel very comfortable doing so. I find the arrogance pretty amazing. It also explains why so many people are turning from Christianity...
@CyclingM1867DubbysMama
@CyclingM1867DubbysMama 16 күн бұрын
​@@jakeo2806well said.
@jlyoung4848
@jlyoung4848 11 ай бұрын
I would like viseo on oldhardshell Baptist and German Reformed Baptist.
@aidanvombruderhof
@aidanvombruderhof 11 ай бұрын
Hey! Thanks for that cool video. We also have two communities in Austria now.
@DainetheHistorian
@DainetheHistorian 11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it @aidanvombruderhof! Thats amazing, thank you for the info. You just got a new subscriber!
@aidanvombruderhof
@aidanvombruderhof 11 ай бұрын
Yes. I live at the Bruderhof am Stein in Austria, and try to show on my channel what it is like as a young college student living at the Bruderhof..
@dingusmoped
@dingusmoped 11 ай бұрын
Is the verse of sharing all you own in Acts descriptive or prescriptive? That's a fundamental question. Pooling all your income...what could go wrong? Hmmm...Lots to admire about their other theological beliefs, though.
@derrickcox7761
@derrickcox7761 11 ай бұрын
Prescriptive...that's why big pharma has all their money now.
@changed7226
@changed7226 11 ай бұрын
Honestly, this seems like a group I would consider joining! The only downside is that I am reformed and believe in the baptism of children. So that's where I wouldn't agree with their theology.
@Rood67
@Rood67 11 ай бұрын
*THIS IS MY OPINION, not an attack.* I’ve read a lot of comments, and yours was one that struck me as sincere. I’m hoping that what I say here may prompt you to look into this further, and find out exactly what they mean, not just what was said in narration of the video. The question to be considered is what is referred to as children? I accepted Christ close to my seventh birthday, and for all points and purpose was considered a child. Per scripture, I was not baptized prior to this point. An infant that believes their dad stole their nose, cannot comprehend Christ crucified and resurrected for the remission of sin. What I took from this video of their theology, is what is referred to as believers baptism. Not an age limit of one must be eighteen plus before one can be baptized. A few scriptures that are *my* basis for how I believe, and what I took from this video as being their standard are: Acts 2:38-41 (KJV) 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, [even] as many as the Lord our God shall call. 40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation. 41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added [unto them] about three thousand souls. Peter was preaching in an open air market, with people from around the known world, no age specified. Only that they were old enough to believe on Christ unto salvation due to the Holy Spirit drawing them to the Truth. Romans 10:9-13 (KJV) 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. As a fundamental, independent Baptist, we use a term “age of accountability.” The age at which knowing not to take a cookie isn’t just something one was told not to do. But the point the mind and soul understands this is disobedience, and guilt for doing wrong convicts a person. And when explained, that this is sin, and the reason Christ came. 1 Corinthians 1:9-17 (KJV) 9 God [is] faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord. 10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and [that] there be no divisions among you; but [that] ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment. 11 For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them [which are of the house] of Chloe, that there are contentions among you. 12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. 13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul? 14 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius; 15 Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name. 16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other. 17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. Although I have not experienced this myself, others have stated when trying to witness to someone, being told; “I was baptized at such and sun church when I was a baby, I don’t need your preachy Jesus, I’m already good.” A dedication of a child is something we still do for newborns. It is more a commitment of the parents that they are giving the child back to God as Hannah did with Samuel. And promising to raise the child in church where they will hear the Gospel. Because just as Samuel, as a child, did not understand it was God speaking to him until explained so that he knew what was going on; had to be old enough to comprehend. But he was still a child. So, I would encourage you to look deeper than the passing comment in the video.
@CyclingM1867DubbysMama
@CyclingM1867DubbysMama 16 күн бұрын
​@@Rood67I was 12 when I was baptised by immersion. To a lot of people, that's not old enough for someone to know enough, but even at that age, I understood what it meant to follow Jesus and to be a Christian. Some people are older when they finally understand. This is why I call it believers' baptism, because children as young as 12 can understand enough to be baptised while some adults never do, or do later in life. I don't agree with infant baptism, though, because an infant does not have the knowledge or understanding to know what's going on and they themselves didn't make the decision to be a Christian, to follow Jesus.
@glorytoprussia1
@glorytoprussia1 11 ай бұрын
How do I join
@DainetheHistorian
@DainetheHistorian 11 ай бұрын
Go to the Bruderhof website link I put in the video description, and go to their "contact us" page.
@hendrikjansevanrensburg8337
@hendrikjansevanrensburg8337 11 ай бұрын
If they have Christ. And live their lives in obedience to God and Christ. That is excellent, the goal , the race. Two things : they are on earth also under the devil's atack. They made biblical principles a lifestyle. That and more is asked of every christian. And if they can do it to the glory of God, we must praise God that gave the wisdom and power and love to man to live in obedience to Christ.
@fibonacimike4110
@fibonacimike4110 11 ай бұрын
What evidence do you have the devil exists and he is attacking the earth?
@hendrikjansevanrensburg8337
@hendrikjansevanrensburg8337 11 ай бұрын
@@fibonacimike4110 read Peter.
@hendrikjansevanrensburg8337
@hendrikjansevanrensburg8337 11 ай бұрын
@@fibonacimike4110 John 10 : 10 , " The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. "
@fibonacimike4110
@fibonacimike4110 11 ай бұрын
@@hendrikjansevanrensburg8337 and where is the evidence?
@fibonacimike4110
@fibonacimike4110 11 ай бұрын
@@hendrikjansevanrensburg8337 why should i read peter?
@albertoftasmania
@albertoftasmania 11 ай бұрын
That's wonderful!
@carelgoodheir692
@carelgoodheir692 11 ай бұрын
My dad wanted us to join the one in Shropshire, England, in the 1960 and maybe move on to Paraguay from there. Luckily my mother put her foot down!
@scottweisel3640
@scottweisel3640 11 ай бұрын
I think the most admirable and Biblical distinction of this community is the “opposition of all forms of gossip.” They recognize gossip for the great destructive sin as the Apostle James did, and make avoiding it a strong point of emphasis/awareness. The second part; “be ready to forgive again and again.” Is just as vital. Of course both can only be done with The Lord’s help, as human weakness makes it impossible to do in flesh.
@vainwretch
@vainwretch 11 ай бұрын
Gossip could be equated with questioning rules or even doctrinal decisions, biblical interpretation and authority of the leadership ? Don't rock the boat . Maybe sometimes the boat needs rocking .
@jakeo2806
@jakeo2806 11 ай бұрын
@@vainwretch Um, I have seen the small notice that they put up in their workspaces and homes - noting that it is easy to love when things are going well - but what if annoyances take over. Members are encouraged to discuss their differences just between the two of them. If they persist, they can ask another to help them with the difficulty. They are a pretty lively group with strong opinions across the board - and they're not afraid to express them. I don't see anyone being afraid to "rock the boat"...seriously.
@katiefountain2407
@katiefountain2407 11 ай бұрын
Visited One of their communities in Pennsylvania. Very kind folks and a quaint life... Almost picture perfect. Personally I don't think I would be able to obey the church elders to the extent they ask of you.
@Mountainpeakprophet
@Mountainpeakprophet 11 ай бұрын
What you don't want to wake up at 5 am every morning to do all the men's laundry? Lol
@floydhawk2169
@floydhawk2169 11 ай бұрын
Farmington, Pa?
@katiefountain2407
@katiefountain2407 11 ай бұрын
Spring Valley.
@HannahJH-gd2vt
@HannahJH-gd2vt 11 ай бұрын
Hey Katie, Some of my fam lives there 😊 Did you meet any of the Hornings? 💖
@jakeo2806
@jakeo2806 11 ай бұрын
@@Mountainpeakprophet As a guest going for my third visit, I can tell you that no one is awake at 5 unless they are getting their children up for school and breakfast together as a family because high-school kids have to catch buses early. Work starts around 9 am - tea break at 1030 - lunch with the full community at 12. Rest/free time until 1pm and then everyone stops at 4:30 or so. Elder members may have half a day off during the week, and if someone is simply too tired or elderly - they simply go for the hours of work they can manage. All work is considered important and valuable- status is not a "thing". One of my first days there I found myself washing down the lunch tables after lunch - and met another women also wiping- who is the community's physician. No person's job is more important than another's - whether that's a teacher, physician, physical therapist or laundry person. Also - some work is always set aside (not busy work) - for an older person who wants a couple of hours work...no one is set aside into a room by themselves, alone, and made to feel like life is over - they are integrated into the community at all life stages.
@JubbyLandry
@JubbyLandry 11 ай бұрын
This is what fundamentalist Baptist called " Open Door" Baptist. They buy out subdivisions and their congregation lives in them. Charles Lawson is the famous pastor of open door bpt knoxville TN
@DainetheHistorian
@DainetheHistorian 11 ай бұрын
Very interesting @JubbyLandry, I'll have to check them out! Thanks for your comment.
@ssn0651
@ssn0651 11 ай бұрын
Wow ! Started in 1920 and already 3,000 members ! Thats just frightening growth ! They’ll probably take over !
@jlotoo850
@jlotoo850 11 ай бұрын
So many have left over the years--otherwise they would be in the millions by now with the large families they have....
@Gatlinwright
@Gatlinwright 10 ай бұрын
I wish there was one near me in Illinois.
@Rood67
@Rood67 11 ай бұрын
I wish to God I had been raised like this. Away from the filth of the world, until I was old enough to be prepared to deal with what would eventually come my way.
@Window4503
@Window4503 11 ай бұрын
…so let’s reframe that. If it weren’t for other boozooes, you’d be perfect and sinless? Don’t you think that maybe God’s best interest for you IS your current life to keep you humble and aware that you need him? You’re the reason you need a Savior. I think that’s important to keep in mind because once you start thinking “I just need the right environment,” it stunts your growth and you spend time trying to find heaven on earth before the promised Return instead of dealing with your sins now and moving forward in the grace allotted to you. Jesus said what goes OUT of a man makes him unclean. Sin comes from your heart. Your environment is a temptation but never the ultimate cause. You have the Word and the Spirit, who is God himself. That’s already more than enough no matter where you’re at.
@donriffle1634
@donriffle1634 11 ай бұрын
I get what you are saying. Children and teens are exposed to entirely too much evil too soon by piers, teachers, public and media. The amount of time exposed to the world on developing young minds takes its toll. Young adults reject God after saturation in evil and naively we ask “why”.
@DainetheHistorian
@DainetheHistorian 11 ай бұрын
Same @Rood67 a community that raises you and gives you a strong foundation is priceless.
@DainetheHistorian
@DainetheHistorian 11 ай бұрын
Very well put @donriffle1634. You are so right.
@Rood67
@Rood67 11 ай бұрын
@@Window4503 I can appreciate your point from one adult to another. However, I’m not sure you read my comment with understanding or just the need to reply. Do you know where I went to school? No Do you know if my parents were divorced and there was little to no supervision or training on how to a responsible adult? No Do you the amount of drugs, sex, pornography, alcohol, etc was prevalent where I grew up and went to school? No Yet you want to imply that I think I would be sinless and perfect growing up in and around a group like this. The answer is still no, I wouldn’t. The point of my comment was, as Solomon wrote in Proverbs, and demonstrated in Jesus’ parable of the prodigal son; train up a child as he should go and when old they will not depart from it. So, if you’re-read what I said without thinking of what you’re going to reply, I said, so that I would be better prepared to deal with the thing presented later in life. In today’s world, at least in the U.S. teachers are putting litter boxes in the classroom for students that want to identify as a cat. This starts at home with worldly parents or parents to afraid to say anything to the child. These kids will be voting soon enough for peers that grew up like them, and the world will suffer. Are these communities perfect, absolutely not! But children here will have a better chance than those left to their own devices and whims.
@Jon-cb9dt
@Jon-cb9dt 11 ай бұрын
This is down my road
@Covert_Arrangements
@Covert_Arrangements 11 ай бұрын
I share the same values as the Bruderhof , except I am serving Christ in the “world” not isolated.
@patchadams4me
@patchadams4me 11 ай бұрын
"Come out from the world and be ye separate..."
@Window4503
@Window4503 11 ай бұрын
@@patchadams4meContext. You’d have to ignore Jesus’ prayer for his disciples (“I do not pray that you take them out of the world”) and condemn them as disobedient to come to that conclusion. The point is to not be worldly. We are not commanded to create little separate communities that fail to interact with the world. Besides. You should know that you take your own sins with you anyway. Other people aren’t the cause of your sins. YOU are.
@stardel
@stardel 11 ай бұрын
Never heard of them! As long as they're not bothering anyone I'm good
@anthonywhelan5419
@anthonywhelan5419 11 ай бұрын
God bless them. Pray for Israel.
@kwdoug
@kwdoug 11 ай бұрын
Great people. I’m Jehovah’s Witness but love these people
@Ballykeith
@Ballykeith 11 ай бұрын
That's odd coming from a JW. Your religion teaches that every other faith group is part of Satan's wicked system and everyone who doesn't join you will be exterminated at Armageddon!
@DainetheHistorian
@DainetheHistorian 11 ай бұрын
That's awesome @kwdoug! I love these people too. Thank you for your comment!
@barclaygarnett2151
@barclaygarnett2151 11 ай бұрын
Answer: 2nd Timothy 2:15 and 1Corinthians 15:1-4. Religion will leave you in hell. Your salvation is only in in the faith of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. Take the offer.
@YeshuaKingMessiah
@YeshuaKingMessiah 11 ай бұрын
What’s the question? Are u asking about salvation? How to go to heaven?
@keepkalm777
@keepkalm777 11 ай бұрын
What is your denomination?
@LarzGustafsson
@LarzGustafsson 11 ай бұрын
The MARANATA people in Sweden practices communal living.
@Raggo12345
@Raggo12345 11 ай бұрын
Very interesting! Is it the group/congregation where Aage Samuelsen was a preacher and singer? He was a fantastic man.
@308dad8
@308dad8 11 ай бұрын
So I still don’t understand what is an anabaptist? Is it solely about the rejection of Catholicism and infant baptism?
@jakeo2806
@jakeo2806 11 ай бұрын
No - it's more than that...One thing was - in the early days of the Reformation, baptizing your child made them not only a member of the Church, but also a full citizen on the city rolls. One of the objecttions of the Anabaptists was the co-mingling of church and state. They felt that church matters should stay in the church, and that the state needed to be kept separate. Anabaptists were the original creators of the idea of the separation of Church and State - fundamental to the U.S. Constitution today.
@rickydrone9274
@rickydrone9274 11 ай бұрын
Were the Amish who settled in Lancaster, Pa. originally Anabaptists from a part of Germany
@jakeo2806
@jakeo2806 11 ай бұрын
Anabaptists are a big umbrella for many groups who hold similar believes. The Amish followed Jakob Ammon who wanted a stricter interpretation of the Bible and communal living. They actually began in Switzerland.
@jm7578
@jm7578 11 ай бұрын
Christianity was not separated in 2; the Eastern Orthodox Church has existed before the Roman Catholic church
@lindamcauley4728
@lindamcauley4728 11 ай бұрын
Sounds wise and good ❤
@RandallvanOosten-ln5wf
@RandallvanOosten-ln5wf 11 ай бұрын
They definitely have several things spot on. The family is clearly the basis of human society (Genesis 1-2) and the church. Their pro-natalist teaching is correct and most other Western churches, including the Catholic Church, have been infected by Feminism on this topic. St. Paul's teachings in 1Cor 11 about head coverings were NOT intended to be understood as a cultural artifact. His teachings on head coverings should be obeyed today (as it is in Eastern Orthodoxy). They are wrong about a requirement for shared income. Believer's baptism was not the Apostolic Tradition and pacifism is not required by Christianity. They will, however, flourish due to their high birthrate.
@mailill
@mailill 11 ай бұрын
As I see it, the Bruderhof is not really family oriented as they (at least in the US) send mothers with still nursing babies away from their infants to work all day in the Bruderhof businesses (and have kindergarten for the tiny little babies). Also, the leaders may decide that an old grandparent must live in a community far away from their children and grandchildren, even when they are old and ill and don't have much time left. The old and ill are taken care of by the community, but not necessarily by their own family. I think it is deeply problematic that the leaders (all men) make decisions on behalf of the families that I think should only be made by the families themselves, and when it comes to small, still nursing babies I think the mothers together with their spouse should make those decisions about when to start working. The Bruderhof is oriented towards the interests (and economy) of the organisation, but not really towards the interests of the individual families or children. That being said, one could perhaps argue Jesus wasn't very family oriented, either, according to the Bible, as he made his disciples leave their wife and children (who probably depended on them) and told them to "let the dead bury their dead".
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