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[@HashbrownMashup]

Fun fact: The DJD was first name-dropped all the way back in Spotlight: Ultra Magnus in 2007

[@mrBluesky1986]

Wow,now thats foreshadowing😂

[@unicronprimus7450]

Are you sure that it is the DJD? I have checked and it was the "Decepticon High Justice". which I believe (correct me if I am wrong) is different.

[@HashbrownMashup]

@@unicronprimus7450 More like the DJD execution squad isn't the only branch of the group, as bots like Barricade were members of the DJD but not THE DJD.

[@poolcueronin2845]

Also, Nickel *totally* fits in with the DJD. I don't think she ever did any field work beyond being a medic with them, so it's entirely possible she never never knew how awful they got, nor heard the things said about them by other Decepticons. Her presence plays with the whole "banality of evil" concept really well.

[@chrisedwards3214]

Even psycho killers need a good medic plus tarn needs some tailpipe lol

[@CaptainScorchMane]

Nah, she must know. There's a part where she's lecturing them on their poor health habits and chides one of them for having someone's brain fluid in their teeth. I think finding chunks of brain in someone's teeth is a pretty good sign they're a nasty person.

[@benjaminbierley2074]

I agree with the banality of evil angle, when we see the DJD at their home they come across as tightly knit as the Autobot teams. If anything they are the dark opposite to the usual Autobot team who are usually the main focus in the various series entries, being tight-knit despite different personalities but all united unfailingly by a shared cause. Nickel is the dark heart of the team, she comes off as silly cause she is a rather deranged level of casual about the nature of her comrades' work.

[@thesadistor-hl7lw]

@@CaptainScorchMane hi dude how are you

[@CaptainScorchMane]

@@thesadistor-hl7lw ...fine? That was an 8 month old comment.

[@adrianli7559]

IDW (particularly MTMTE) is a masterpiece that 1) is unironically one of the best comics to have come out in the past decade, and 2) had no right to be as good as it was.

[@maxmocs5008]

"had no right to be as good as it was" Why not? Everything IDW did could have been done before, IDW was just the first continuity to actually do it. Yeah, MTMTE focused itself on unknowns and unpopular characters, but what a lot of people don't realize is that those characters had a lot of personality that already was fleshed out in sourcebooks. It only took a caring writer to make great stories with them. Same thing with the situations. TF has always been straight Sy-Fy. There was potential in the TF universe for groups like the Scavengers, and Luna 2, it just took IDW to actually go thru with them. From the first issue, I could tell James Roberts was a caring writer, and that the stories would be an excellent, wild ride. I really don't understand why everyone was so shocked at how good the comics turned out to be.

[@twistedgaming9185]

@@maxmocs5008 Before becoming its own thing, Simon Furman considered a Crisis of Infinite Earths-style crossover series with Dreamwave G1 and Cybertron, but dropped to avoid confusing new readers. Phase 1 wasn't good initially, but Phase 2 rectified and really developed the new continuity as an entity of its own. James Roberts, along with Nick Roche, are members of Transmasters UK (TMUK) since the 90s, so their entry into IDW to write Transformers stories was a dream come true.

[@astartespete]

Just finished reading phase 2 volume 11, which culminates in that battle, and the moment with ravage afterwards.......IDW has brought some phenomenal stories to the table.

[@Cowboy-crown]

That book is one of my prized possessions lol

[@Alex876]

they also put tarn in cyberverse as a drone but yeah i freaking love these guys they became my number 1 decepticon team instantly

[@SoundblasterYT]

not anymore

[@ThatsaToilet]

A rated R djd movie would be so cool.

[@aarongrove4744]

Now im gonna have nightmares .. never thought I'd see an electric chair Transformer LOL

[@THANATOS-PRIME]

Since I can’t afford a third party I would love to see these guys done in the main line one day

[@poolcueronin2845]

Space Robot Gestapo. All you really need to know.

[@BrainsArt]

6:43 ooh that's the art I commissioned from Alex Milne! Fun fact, I'd asked him to draw Kaon in the Sailor Jupiter pose.

[@WarBuilder5426]

To me, I see Nickel as an attempt at a Granny Goodness kind of character, she doesn't seem to go all the way with it though, which is a shame.

[@dare2727]

I think Nickel was a Mcguffin used to move the djd and the story forward. I agree with you they didn't really seem to know what to do with her

[@HashbrownMashup]

It's "gap moe". She looks like an adorable little pillbug but the genocidal little sicko is hardly any less sadistic than the rest of them, although maybe more naive. The problem is they completely botched her introduction, her character really only became clear towards the end of the series in LL.

[@helloiwanttootakeoverthewo3217]

Summary Tarn is such a smooth talker he can kill people with his voice. Vos has drills inside of his face and doesn’t speak English but ancient cybertronian Kaon has electric ability’s and loves there pet named pet Tesarus has blades inside there chest Helex has a built in smelting chamber in his chest and has four arms Pet was the original vos but was forced and enslaved to be a pet Nickel is the medic and the wisest one

[@kaylobdennis3672]

It's been a while since I've read the comic but I think what Tarn said he can do is alter the timbre of his voice to synchronize with the frequency of his victim's spark, then gradually lower it until the spark dies.

[@MonoSimio]

Yep, that's it. It's a frequency thing.

[@MrPooPooJohn]

@@MonoSimio Wasn’t it like some kind of weapon that he used or discovered first? Or like an ancient text? Then later learned how to achieve the same effect with just his voice? I gave up on going through my IDW stack to find it. But I think it took him a long time to master it. I could be, and probably am, totally wrong.

[@twistedgaming9185]

@@MrPooPooJohn Tarn initially had the ability to render non-sentient machinery non-functional by touching them, which eventually developed into his signature power by the time he became leader of DJD.

[@MrPooPooJohn]

@@twistedgaming9185 ah. Ya I knew it was developed in some capacity. Thanks, mate

[@twistedgaming9185]

@@MrPooPooJohn Alex Milne's ideal voice for Tarn is Keith David.

[@jasonreyes1342]

I remember the comic that came with Generations Hoist and wondered who Tarn was. Read the comics after that and got hooked. The DJD, Wreckers, Overlord and the Lost Light Crew were the best characters for me.

[@twistedgaming9185]

The Wreckers and Overlord existed since the 80s from Marvel UK and Masterforce respectively.

[@f1nalboss]

Some of the IDW comics are the best iteration of the TF lore. This was a cool video

[@trence5]

here here!

[@Deliverance115]

Tarn is a very interesting villain. Guns, tank mode, face - choices to make him feel closer to his leader/god. He can get pretty emotional but is a true fanatic at heart. Dude would sell his own mother (if he was a human) to look good in the eyes of his god Megatron

[@MrPooPooJohn]

My favorite has always been Vos (current sniper alt Vos not pet). His design, the mystery and mystique about him was always super interesting sinister and scary. His design is my favorite too. All of the DJD with the exception of Vos and Kaon, have a very clunky and misfit design to them. They are blocky and bulky and even smooth in so many random places. Vos and Kaon have the most humanoid look which is just more appealing to me. That might make them less original and even boring to some but whatevs. Their robot and alt modes also complement each other. Vos is slender, sleek and elongated like a sniper rifle. Kaon has those electric Tesla coil looking things and then turns into an electric chair. Both of them are literal (and recognizable) tools of death. I also hate that Tarn just turns into a tank.... Does not fit his character at all.

[@spencergellsworth]

Nice to watch a "basics on the DJD" that can talk about the third-party toys. :) I believe Helex turns into one of the "harvesters" that collected characters for the Smelting Pool in Marvel US, but Roberts complicated things by giving him his own wee internal Smelting Pool. I hope one day that we get Regeneration One-style continuations of Prime & Animated from IDW that can show us what the DJD would look like in those continuities

[@twistedgaming9185]

Doubtful, because those reached their end.

[@MisaelCastilloBrenes]

Yeah, Tarn's voice thing was one of his "special powers" as an outlier, as Trailbreaker's force field. Also in one issue, Tarn confesses that his Mask helps him turn his sight to avoid seeing all the cruelty that he needs to perform (according to him). Vos reminds me to Karl Ruprecht Kroenen from Hellboy... Another interesting thing about Tarn is that at some point Grimlock punches Tarn in the face, and many issues later, Nickel tell's Grimlock that Tarn talked about him breaking his face (and there is another issue where you see him unmasked, talking to shockwave, and he literally had a crack in his face). Very fun and interesting topic! It's weird that I'm not a fan of the DJD, but I like all the story around them, and how they meet their end in the hands of "!!!!SPOILERS!!!!" . 😁😆

[@HashbrownMashup]

God the canon rationale for Tarn's mask was one of the worst things in MTMTE. The whole point of Tarn is that he's a sadistic bully that pretends to be sophisticated in order to insulate himself from facing the consequences of his actions. His mask clearly ought to represent the fake facade of control, not that he has secret good guy feelings.

[@brenoferreiraferreira4409]

I agree that Tarn listens to classic music but I never saw Nickel as a granny, quite the opposite, I saw her as very young and almost naive, like she was overprotected by the team to a point where she almost couldn't recognize what they where doing as evil and extreme. Besides, Nickel works as a contradiction, she is cute and sensible opposing the harshness and aggressiveness of the remaining DJD members.

[@carlsommerfeld3207]

This is where Hasbro, paramount and idw need to come together to do some adult animated cartoon movies

[@shockwave487]

Just to clarify, Tarn is an outlier. It's kinda the equivalent of a Mutant from Marvel, or a Metahuman from DC. In the case of Tarn, he has the ability to generate an EMP with his voice that can fall in line with the pulse of the listener's spark and coaxes the spark into giving out. Also the X on Tesarus' face is probably a reference to Judge Dredd.

[@mrfonzerelli1]

Thank you for doing this. I wasn’t one of the ones asking... I never really cared much to want to find out, as it wasn’t related to the TFs I knew as a kid.... but You’ve definitely sparked my interest. Going to have to check out IDW now.

[@leftylion816]

Learned a lot of new TF lore today Mr. Skullface. Tarn is now one of my favorites and I'll be taking up your suggestions for reading material. Another great work, thanks. Merry Christmas and Happy holidays to you and yours!

[@MTCD-bd4ft]

Knock down, drag out is the phrase Bobby. Good breakdown on the DJD. Love these guys.

[@sumangoyal3965]

I love the d.j.d. They are one of the ONLY decepticons that actually make us understand that the deacepticons are the bad guys.... in most other continuities the decepticons are shown as the antagonists but that just about it.....we don’t get to see WHY they are the antagonists....we don’t get to see their brutality and lack of morals

[@alexturner5717]

Happy to know more about these guys they’re cool :) good video dude!

[@Vincent-396]

Very interesting. I had never heard of these guys. Thanks for the education. I like their back stories.

[@arielcordero]

Getting this set and I think they are awesome. Also reading the IDW comics, but I still haven't got to the More than meets the eye arch. I have never heard of this team until I saw your videos reviewing their figures. Hearing you talking about them made me want to get those comics and learn about them. (Still have to get to that part). But I already have two of their MMC figures (Tarn and Helex) and the Nickel and the Pet two pack which I love. Will be getting Tortor this week and crossing my fingers for a re-release of of the last two. 🔥🔥🔥

[@dakotadoyle7573]

"...turned it a little goofy" Its transformers... IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE GOOFY

[@DanielGreen07]

I never knew about these guys. Interesting thanks 👍

[@suprasport9118]

Now I know why your friends got you that Flame toys Tarn. Yeah, unfortunately know who they are? Super interesting! I have do my homework and read those books. Thank you for this information. As always great video Bobby S. ⭐

[@MercySaidSo_]

Good looking out with this video my G. I'm still on book 3 of Phase 2. Collected and read all of Phase One. IDW has some really dope stories, I'm locked in all the way!! And this is coming from a "G1er" lol..... I just got back into collecting Transformers again and when I found out about The DJD and what they do, they became my new favorite Deception group. I'm a Horror movie fan so I took a big interest in these characters. I picked up Tarn, Tesarus & Helex from MMC, I'm just waiting on Kaon & Vos to get rereleased so I can complete my set. Hopefully they get their own spin off series like they did with Lost Light because I feel like they dont get as much love as they should. From what I noticed in the TF community, I feel like a lot of ppl don't know about these characters, they dont know what they're missing out on.

[@dare2727]

The djd is iconic and you hit the nail on the head MTMTE is THE BEST TRANSFORMERS FICTION EVER. great video

[@nathanthomas6566]

Couldn’t agree more with regards to the MTMTE comment... incredible story. I had the pleasure of meeting James Roberts and I could’ve spent all day chatting to him! I don’t keep Nickel with my DJD, she’s with my Deathsaurus so there’s still an IDW connection... the shelf looks much nicer without her on it.

[@moloko912]

Nice videos bobby!! Wasnt tarn obsessed with transformation cog and changing regulary his altmode?

[@josephengland6404]

More than that: he was addicted to changing shape. He would transform to alt mode just to walk across a room (and does so a few times) and burned out his transformation cog more than once. He obviously has an addictive personality because later on in the series he’s switched to chugging Nucleon

[@aviatordanz]

We need more of this style video! Remember when you did Character Counts: Swerve? 🤣

[@miaouew]

"He turns into an electric chair" what

[@Qc4073]

I enjoyed it. I plan on getting more collected editions just haven’t had the time

[@HashbrownMashup]

The collected editions put the issues completely out of order, I don't recommend using them.

[@jet_EXTRA]

Will you be doing more videos like this? Greetings from the Philippines!

[@mooscrew]

Sounds cool, reminds me of thanos crew in a loose way

[@BobThePenguin.]

This is the one group of cybertronians you NEVER want to run into, in ANY circumstances. The other big bads will kill you quickly, some may torture you, but these guys literally have alternate modes meant for torture. I would rather insult megatron to his face than get the DJD's attention

[@vince0896]

Wow. This guy's are sycos. Great video. I never heard of them.

[@Egg.Sander]

These guys sound like a real blast, I really have to start reading the IDW comics!

[@omarimus2260]

If you read idw you could read last stand of the wreckers but you need to read more than meets the eye and once you start reading it you'll wonder why you didn't read it before

[@charleshot25]

Good place to start is "All hail Megatron"

[@Kickback-dm7zt]

Over here in Ireland within the grounds of Dublin City University there is a theatre called the "Helix". Lol

[@lowellmartens6135]

"He's like Arnold Schwarzenegger and Danny DeVito from Twins all wrapped into one." Perfect description. Wish there was more of them in the comics. Would like to have seen them with their own comic.

[@mechanwhal6590]

I hope there’s a Shattered Glass Tarn who does ASMR.

[@pixelgun4789]

I like Kaon the most to be honest. His relationship to Pet was heartwarming. His death was sad.

[@DJ--ALLDAY]

These guys & OverLord were the LAST cons u wanted to mess with

[@christophermartin141]

I first heard about the D.J.D from the basics I would love to see them in either live-action or in a animated show

[@drewlovelyhell4892]

That was educational. I knew nearly nothing about these characters. I'm not a big follower of 21st century Transformers lore. It pretty much began and ended with G1 for me.

[@DESTRAKON]

You ever see that pic on Instagram where a guy drew Tarn and Roller as Bw Megatron and Primal

[@yourhighness927]

I think it would have worked a lot better if Tarn was secretly IDW’s version of Dion, Orion pax’s best friend from the old G1 cartoon who only made one appearance in the show.

[@ShikiKairagi]

Scary

[@John-Stark]

Surprised Starscream never got a visit from these guys

[@GodOfSleep174]

You mentioned the character kaon, now this might have been conformed by now but I think the djd aren't namemed after city's that fell but decepticon citys

[@GodOfSleep174]

Now the main reason I thought that is only because kaon is the deception capital but again unless it's been conformed I think that's the nameing scheme for the djd

[@tarn4633]

The names of the members of the DJD were revealed during the issue: Dying of Light by Megatron when he slaughtered them.

[@vassa1972]

Interesting

[@rodrickgriffin7599]

🤔Megaton retreated all the time!🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@MonoSimio]

Not in the IDW universe. Nothing to do with the original TV show.

[@pixelgun4789]

I have always seen them, to be like Military Police of Decepticons.

[@bryceciampitti]

The X on Tesarus's face is supposed to represent plauge. (MTMTE #4)

[@Random-Anomaly]

Tarn was with the djd since the origin of the group so there has only been one tarn

[@mark4flair376]

Bobby "for years I thought it was DJ Dee as in turntables and disco balls" Face!

[@Giantwaspface]

Ooof, the edge is strong with these guys. Having said that, I may just take a look at those comics...

[@austingregg7924]

You mean you've not read the idw comics?

[@johngavin1175]

You wont regret it one bit. I gotta go reread them myself...

[@josephengland6404]

The edge is strong but it’s kind of the point. The MTMTE series recharacterises Megatron as a Stalin/Marx/Guevara type revolutionary who comes to believe his own hype. These guys serve as the literal embodiment and endgame of his goals and give him a representation his old self to overcome.

[@lemmonox]

Akatsuki of Transformers?

[@TFfangeek]

Great look at the DJD I hope we at least get an official figure of Tarn one day from Hasbro. :D

[@anthonycourt7977]

Unlikely if we do they cut alot of corners. Especially in altmode

[@TFfangeek]

@@anthonycourt7977 At least the dream is still alive. :)

[@mickholohan4266]

I always saw tesarus as a wood-chipper of sorts

[@kingrousereviews6216]

By lowering of his voice he is able to kill other transformers sparks (Leader Tarn)...

[@twistedgaming9185]

Keith David is Alex Milne's ideal voice for Tarn.

[@rickytoddbotelho9555]

' knock down drag out!' Like what's going to happen to you if you don't get your street lingo right. It's dead reckoning time Bob😄

[@michaelsakells169]

I think I found the definition of going medieval on your @$&. Also I like the inclusion of Nickel to help expand what the djd are like when they are not on duty. They are like a family.

[@BushwavesStudios]

I wonder what will the djd do if there in shattered glass.

[@tarn3073]

Its about Time for an Official Tarn release from Hasbro !!!

[@johnevans8533]

DJD: updated version of the Blue Meanies (Yellow Submarine: the Beatles).

[@ekos8282]

2:02. Scavengers wondered what happened to grimlock to make him lose his memory. Box said check more than meets the eye number xx My thought: Hm what happened? Google.... Oooh, yeah, yeah that explains it. Tarns face is in the cover of the comic book XD

[@backonja7255]

5:33, FINALY!!! Someone is comparing Tarn to Hannibal Lector,...I honestly don't understand how people overlook that detail!

[@aviatordanz]

Also, one small correction, the book says there have been multiple of every member except for Tarn who is the only Tarn. And even deeper reference there is Tarn is the birthplace of Megatron.

[@twistedgaming9185]

James Roberts stated his place of origin is Tarn.

[@aviatordanz]

@@twistedgaming9185 I know, Megatron was created in Tarn, hence Megatron of Tarn.

[@twistedgaming9185]

@@aviatordanz I meant the birthplace of Damus/Glitch/Tarn.

[@prycronix8439]

Ngl it was cool to have a tarn design in cyberverse which I never would have thought considering how the djd are, but I was still a bit let down with him just being a bunch of drones

[@spencergellsworth]

Yeah, I'd love to see the other continuity versions of the DJD

[@rhyperiorhunter7339]

Just thought I would mention some things 1 yes there have been many members of one codename except for Tarn as he was the only member to be part of the division since it's foundation 2 we do know there real names which are: crucible the real name of Helex, scissor saw the real name of Teserus, Four stock the real name of Vos, Amp the real name of Kaon, and Damus or glitch the real name of Tarn 3 Tarn doesn't ware that mask to show his fanaticism for the Decepticons he actually wares it for when he decides not to talk his victims to death so that when he lets the others have their way with the victim, no one noticed when Tarn closes his eyes Also just thought I would mention that Helex's favorite torture method is taking his victims own brain and putting it in their mouth

[@jasonw3414]

i wish we had gotten a djd mini series. like, why would megatron think he would need such a team? or what happened to make him think of this? and why did he recruit who he did for it?

[@EllaTrigger]

When I first saw vos, I always thought he is a baby version of tarn

[@charleshot25]

The IDW comics (2006-2019) are some of the best transformers media out there. Edit: at 5:03 we do know what Tarn's real name is. I won't say what it is cause of spoilers.

[@TrypticOwen]

I don't know about the in-universe reason but, stylistically, I always assumed Tesarus' X-face was an homage to the way Hasbro would gouge X's across the faces of prototypes so that they couldn't be sold.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

I’m not sure if that’s why, BUT I LOVE THAT!!!

[@Egg.Sander]

This is a brilliant explanation!

[@TrypticOwen]

@@MythsAndHeroes It's one of those things that I like the idea of it being right even if it maybe isn't! :-)

[@spencergellsworth]

given that James Roberts' characterization of Thunderclash was a sly in-joke on his bio, and he even used the "black hole power" for the fusion cannon, I buy it!

[@SneedismYT]

maybe the X on Tesarus’ face is a homage to Judge Dredd, who is basically all about justice

[@MonoSimio]

There's a lot more Dredd references, even graphical, in MTMTE/Lost Light, so yeah, very likely.

[@sumangoyal3965]

They kind of remind me of the black order from the MCU

[@acezanderson7582]

Can you guys explain me why they kills decepticons.

[@tfsomegaguy6203]

They kill traitors

[@dcjosh23]

[@yautjaxenomorph9472]

Arent they a combiner group?

[@MonoSimio]

Nope, that was just a gimmick in the Iron Factory set of toys, just like Volcanicus with the Dinobots. Only much cooler and done way better, 😂 but still an invention of their own.

[@yautjaxenomorph9472]

@@MonoSimio oh ok. I could of sworn there wuz a toy line of the combiner form.

[@punchline1279]

Honestly I don't want to see the DJ d in more Transformers media that isnt mature cuz I don't want the DJDs ruthlessness to be censored

[@sunwentai1]

So, in other words, their characters are really interesting and brilliantly written, but they still all look completely ridiculous. And maybe that's the point, maybe they're all supposed to look like clowns, but oh well. Thank you for the quick and effective explanation, I'll stick to G1. ;)

[@anthonycourt7977]

James Roberts & Nick Roche who are the two best tf writers ever in my opinion.

[@ihatesand1430]

I feel like idw had gone down hill due to revolution

[@dove187]

DJD vs Dinbots?

[@xtort1220]

The first half of MTMTE is phenomenal but most it after the Dark Cybertron event was a letdown. But that first, those were some great comics.

[@VRHyoumaru]

Transformers: More Than Meets The Eye: Hell yeah Transformers: Lost Light: Hell no.

[@MonoSimio]

Don't read it then 😂 Most of us love it all up to the last page of Unicron, with all its ups & downs.

[@HashbrownMashup]

"Am I the only one who understands the the complexity of this ambitious graphic novel masterpiece? This series isn't stupid! YOU'RE STUPID!"

[@jasong5127]

You better answer me by being my last question about fanstoys not building the rest of the combiners. I have two accounts and thumbs up you and both of them. If you don't answer me I'm going to be thumbs down in you on both of those accounts from here on out

[@maxmocs5008]

I had a stroke trying to read this.

[@MonoSimio]

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@jasong5127]

@@maxmocs5008 lmao. My phone is broken

[@drinkingaboutrobots2118]

😂😂😂 YOU BETTER ANSWER HIM, BOBBY.

[@jasong5127]

@@drinkingaboutrobots2118 that's right booby

[@stormriderx4460]

I dislike Nickel. They should have made the character tougher not a joke

[@HashbrownMashup]

They did though? Read Lost Light.