TRANSFORMERS: THE BASICS on DOUBLEDEALER

[@BlamoStramo]

"Did Dealer betray us?" Is still one of the hypest moments in IDW

[@anthonybanjak1000]

Once Hot Rod let go of his guilt, the answer was obvious

[@NoahDaArk]

Shows how smart Doubledealer is. He didn’t even consider the fact the Autobot he was trying to kill held a device that could answer ANY question! What did he think was going to happen?

[@Greenkitten45]

I love how some of these names (Doubledealer, Swindle, Flip Sides) are obvious illusions to negative aspects of their character, but everyone remains oblivious to that fact until it's too late.

[@zootershooters5831]

Dealer why are you just standing there

[@DragonspineInfiniteZero]

Rodimus asked the magic 8 ball if he was sus

[@BenBoyee]

I could see him be business partners with Swindle

[@mitchfletcher2386]

Maybe Swindle is his mentor!

[@BurntTM]

Yeah

[@windsweeper8002]

If Swindle were a good business man, he'd change his name.

[@EungsuLee]

More like backstabbing each other for better deals and grudgingly drinking together in Maccadam's because nobody else would.

[@anthonyrangel7239]

Or lockdown

[@battleupsaber462]

I don't like how most modern media have forgotten that his bird mode even exists

[@ls_rus4666]

They don't want to show the............ you know

[@SirScott-to-the-Netherlands140]

Are you a girl or a boy ? BattleUp Saber pls tell me I want to know

[@Perradocx]

I agree! The bird mode is so important.

[@Quantum_Magnus]

I like it. Never really been a fan of bots who could turn into beasts. The Missile Carrier is cool, anyways.

[@bluecoolfilms1940]

Hes like the robo-hawk from judas priest's screaming for vengeance album cover, or the eagle war-plane from pink floyds the wall. I love it! =]

[@supersayin9]

I found him in my loft and thought 'oh cool another autobot, wait whys this move if the vehicle is do-oh he's a triple changer....wait. which is he? Who is he?!'

[@ltb1345]

@Kristopher Prime I only just learned about Doubledealer through the manga.

[@dubuyajay9964]

😱🤯🫠😵‍💫😵

[@SirBroccolingtonIII]

Doubledealer was always one of the more interesting characters to come out of G1 related media. There aren't a lot of bounty-hunter-esque characters in transformers, so learning about one is always fascinating.

[@Cre8Lounge]

Like Defcon

[@sentanyl3399]

Devcon*

[@holli_jeremy5278]

Lockdown: Am I a joke to you?

[@misterbadguy7325]

Honestly, I think the Powermasters were probably the last real high point of Western G1. Big, cool toys with interesting transformations, fun altmodes, and a gimmick that works well. You really have to wonder which Hasbro executive looked between Submarauder and Dreadwind and picked the former as the model for all the larger toys of the line's next year. And Doubledealer was easily one of the best Powermasters.

[@EmeralBookwise]

The choice was probably purely a cost saving measure to eek whatever last drops of profit they could out of the waning line.

[@misterbadguy7325]

@@EmeralBookwise I certainly wouldn't doubt it. Most of the Pretenders, even the Mega and Ultra varieties, had about as many moving parts as a Minibot.

[@XboxTF2Tidbits]

And possibly one of the best master concepts because you can display them beside their big robots without it feeling too incomplete

[@ziljin]

These switching transformers are like Superman and Clark Kent. Somehow nobody notices they look identical

[@dubuyajay9964]

Doesn't help there a dupes like the Coneheads and Seekers. Easy excuse to make if pressured.

[@mdredheadguy1979]

I’d never even heard of Double Dealer until I saw him in IDW comics. And I had no idea he was supposed to be a triple-changer. So thank you for filling us in on his backstory!

[@zixise]

Double Dealer deserves so much more. I want to see him and Punch/CP to star in something together

[@Angel_Love6680]

We need a Pirate style series of Non-Faction Cybertronians like -Lockdown -Sideways -Counterpunch -Doubledealer & others who i don't know/don't remember names of

[@PG2994]

@@Angel_Love6680 technically Counterpunch is an Autobot disguised as a Decepticon (or in some cases just a Decepticon personality) but either way he is definitely loyal to one of the factions.

[@mistylover7398]

@@PG2994 stupid bloody spys

[@dubuyajay9964]

​@@Angel_Love6680 Star Seekers/Chasers?

[@alanguages]

@@Angel_Love6680 I would say more Dark Ops with the rogue type Transformers. I would definitely add Nightbird. Maybe Devcon, even though he is an Autobot bounty hunter, he could have an understanding with the group.

[@Fuzzy_Barbarian]

The best thing about Doubledealer for me will always be the missile dong in his bird mode. And I didn't even own that toy.

[@shadowmarauder6033]

I love how doubledealer was in earthrise. He died a very painful death, though

[@shadowmarauder6033]

@Konstantins Zelcs his ship blew up with him inside it

[@shadowmarauder6033]

@Konstantins Zelcs true, but he was uncounceus. I hope he does survive

[@CrowAkechi_The_Luminary]

I doubt he survivwd but manw as he cool

[@XalleoOfficial]

He didn’t survive

[@LiamDyC]

​@@shadowmarauder6033 Not to mention, before that, he was mind-controlled by a Quintesson who literally sliced off four of its faces!

[@jayglenn837]

That IDW spotlight, found in a public library, was my first introduction to IDW comics, and indeed my first exposure to any transformer comics after the fall of Dreamwave, the comics I'd read as a kid. I enjoyed it very much, but it wasn't until a few years after that I realized it was part of an ongoing comic universe. I was so glad to have ongoing transformers comics after that :>

[@twistedgaming9185]

It helped that most stories were written/drawn by fans turned professionals (even Simon Furman was involved with the comics). Some of them even got started in Dreamwave.

[@rafaeltiburcio6624]

I think I remember having a bootleg toy of this when I was a kid. IT was broken and couldn't transform anymore but I brought it with me everywhere anyway, man never thought I'd get nostalgic over an obscure character

[@ProfessM]

I kinda like the idea of two people sharing the same transtector. The idea makes me think of either a brother and sister or maybe even a husband and wife not knowing the other has the bot. The girl wanting to rebel and act out and the boy being kind strait laced and goodie goodie. Really works as the bird is the "evil" one being able to fly freely and the bot being well as your said a Super Robot fighting for justice.

[@kirkkerman]

Not quite the same but in Super-God Masterforce, Overlord was the combination of the Godmaster husband and wife Giga and Mega. Giga was the tank and Mega was the jet. Still, your idea is different and interesting in its own right!

[@ProfessM]

@@kirkkerman Yeah I did like Giga and Mega.

[@sivanlevi3867]

I instantly look at the name Doubledealer and think, "Nope! I am NOT trusting that guy."

[@Skullgrin140]

Good Stuff Chris. It's good that a character like DoubleDealer has had some involvement here and there in the franchise albeit very brief because this character has a lot of potential for future stories in western media, however Netflix did a solid by giving him a role in the recent show because it could lead to more involvement down the line. I'm not massively into DoubleClouder but the idea used for Masterforce was interesting to see develop.

[@ReverendSyn]

*While WFC Knok and Skar were remolds of cassette based molds, they weren't really cassette tapes. They were used in Doubledealer in pretty much the exact same way. So you could still consider them Powermasters.*

[@williampulfer-melville8536]

Since they've introduced the mercenary affiliation in the Transformers Earthrise Netflix series I wonder if this will mean that Lockdown will appear in a future episode of that show as one of the many Bounty Hunters on the mercenary faction

[@mm123gseries5]

I would like to see a version of Doubledealer, (or at least a new transformer), that is a secret agent actively trying to bring down both Autobots and Decepticons for both causing and escalating the war on Cybertron and turning it into a planet wide wasteland.

[@pizzaruby5140]

I always loved the concept of an Autobot mode and a Decepticon mode. I wouldn't mind owning a Doubledealer, Punch/Counterpunch, or an Animated Shockwave one day!

[@rjurmanovich]

Punch/counterpunch is still available on Amazon

[@mistylover7398]

Quite awesome to be both sides.

[@pistonx3544]

Double dealer: when can I see your best doctor? Doctor lockdown: why right now of course please have a seat on the chair I don't want you falling to bits😈

[@chosenofkhorne2951]

Double dealer: ok ? Doctor lockdown: YES 😈

[@russellmarch4983]

I’ve been refreshing since 4 o’clock... don’t judge my lack of sleep

[@apersonwithastockimage6289]

lol

[@ryaquaza3offical]

Having a transformer that can turn into both a bird and vechicle to ‘double deal’ is a real cool concept and I’m kinda sad it didn’t come back or get alliterated on in the future.

[@anderson9244MLG]

4:08 Zack Snyder's transformers

[@1065chris]

I'd like to see that two humans sharing Doubledealer idea be revisited one day.

[@thesailormercury2]

it would have been funny that if they dId or if he has two human partners that they would be in love or hate each other .

[@redalert923]

@@thesailormercury2 optimus prime : double dealer that symbol you wearing you are one of the Mercenary Faction

[@infectedrobot-dd8nw]

That would be cool but how would they do it

[@fabianrocha9924]

Doubleclouder* but yeah I agree

[@yuwu585]

they already did that with Overlord tho

[@HERITAGE12]

Still feel there's a great story to be done for this guy that properly uses his dual allegiance better ala what's been done with counter punch. Very underutilised.

[@ltb1345]

Yeah.

[@fabianrocha9924]

Well Punch is an Autobot Spy but I get what you mean

[@BlackSuperman2099]

What an intriguing concept for a "Transformer spy" & toy. I would've really liked to have seen him re-imagined in the Beast Wars show (hopefully w/ a double-barrel blaster). I think his "treachery" would've put schemers like Tarantulas to shame. And unlike Tarantulas, he'd actually have 2 loyal partners to work with.

[@o_o-037]

*SWINDLE:* WHo are you? *DOUBLE DEALER:* I'm you but better in every way.

[@rayvenkman2087]

You’d think with Doubledealer’s unique mercenary personality in the G1 line, he’d be used far more often in the Marvel, DW and IDW 1.0 comics.

[@Lazymanundead]

Even though the show was short I still love the idea of a mercenary faction in transformers lore, I hope we see more of that idea

[@Zaxerphone]

It’s not a Faction, it’s the Opposite of a Faction

[@TheOutlawCrow]

This has been my all time favorite character and I'm so glad he got put into Earthrise!

[@SuperLuigiSixty4]

I found a Generations Doubledealer at a garage sale this summer and was able to ID it thanks to this episode!

[@TheSypherMan]

I HAVENT CLICKED SO FAST IN MY LIFE. My favorite mercenary besides Soundblaster

[@GhaniKeSawah]

Doubledealer: **is a triple changer** Me: wait that's illegal

[@BennyLlama39]

In the words of Palpatine/Sidious, "I will *make* it legal." I know, wrong franchise-- sue me. 😀

[@joeymcm04]

"It's not illegal. I don't want it to be illegal, so it's not."

[@diegos7337]

So underutilized! Double Dealer should a mayor roll on the TF media!

[@Badwolfwho1]

I guess Doubledealer could sorta be seen as the inspiration for Armada's Sideways, not a triple changer really but he did have slightly different robot forms between his Autobot and Decepticon guises IIRC

[@Badwolfwho1]

@Konstantins Zelcs Oh yeah I forgot about Punch-Counterpunch that's totally fair yeah. I even watched the vid on them and everything

[@irontownpictures9283]

Fun fact - in the russian subtitles of ER at Netflix his name was translated like "Chameleon"

[@vustvaleo8068]

Doubledealer: "MONEY MONEY MONEY, MONEEEEEEEYYY!!"

[@hgc7000]

Everybody's got a price.

[@SwiftpawWolffox]

These are the best part of every Saturday morning!

[@vxrdrummer]

Damn right. It is part of my weekly routine to look forward the Basics all week, and then to love it on a Saturday morning. It's superb.

[@vincentgrajeda7428]

Are we almost close to finally having The Transformers Basics of The Battlechargers(Runamuck and Runabout), Skyshadow/ Black shadow, The Coneheads (Dirge, Ramjet, Thrust), and long requested basics of Brawn at last right? 😞🙏

[@PharaohOfTheDamned]

Perfect timing. Opened KZbin looking for a quick video

[@BerzerkDC]

Usually you catch these but he was also recently added to the transformers earth wars game. Pretty good job done on his three modes

[@alanguages]

Awesome to get Double Dealer! I find the rogue type of characters truly interesting. Thanks for putting him up.

[@TFfangeek]

Doubledealer always gets the best deals. The best action figures, best transformation gimmick, and best stories in the comic books. You will not make a bad deal when dealing with Doubledealer.

[@twistedgaming9185]

He lives up to the tagline "More than meets the eye".

[@cyclonusprimus5875]

Can you do the Basics on Scourge. You weirdly haven’t done the last member of the Heralds of Unicron

[@chadderbug7587]

I mean, what much is there to do on him

[@cyclonusprimus5875]

@@chadderbug7587 I mean, there’s a lot of stuff to do on him. We got a new figure on him in the SS line, there were 2 different versions of him, and it’s only self explanatory for him to get a basics on him since he already did one on Galvatron and Cyclonus.

[@tricksterzyro3230]

Isn't scourge the autobot that got melted in the marvel comics? or the other evil optimus?

[@chadderbug7587]

@@tricksterzyro3230 Both technically

[@lukedelameter7961]

There was also the Cybertron Scourge.

[@woundedzilla1517]

Hot rod: Double dealer stop switching sides Double dealer: NEVER

[@johnmaring7056]

That Forgotten Transformer Was The Inspiration 4 The Autobot Longarm/Decepticon Shockwave Double Agent From “Transfomers: Animated” On Cartoon Network 📺 That Aired From 2007-09! ❤️💙 💜🤍

[@andytftheshow]

Fantastic video about one of my favourite transformers of all time! I really hope he turns out to have survived in Siege as he could be such a fascinating character.

[@DBWalks2010]

Like the story about double dealer! He and Swindle would make a great team!

[@JoseAyalaVelez]

Until one backstabs the other.

[@twistederror]

i just realized in the earthrise show the coneheads aren't like their toy but rather the siege seekers toy so possible generation selects toys might make them like the show model

[@windsweeper8002]

I really hope they are repainted from the Siege mold.

[@twistederror]

@@windsweeper8002 they have to be repainted AND remolded especially cause of their head

[@justingates4985]

The latest Doubledealer/Clouder figure actually has the Powermaster/Godmaster gimmick...the "engine" on his torso comes off and you can attach it to the back of the cassettes.

[@A51Mynx]

0:21 I'm loving that bird mode.....

[@jeremymunsch8592]

Have to say your new videos most Saturdays is among my highlights of the week usually. Thank you for the great work.

[@andydeakin3850]

You should name a month triple changer month for well triple changers

[@JiMMyCalrissian]

This is my first time hearing about this character. Now I have to find that anime and rewatch earthrise. Cause I never finished it lol

[@frankforttheorangee2produc110]

Fun fact: in the super god masterforce show the omni productions dub referred to him as doubledealer. Probably to go along with the g1 color scheme. Good idea:)

[@gabrielchee8470]

Well, that's not canon so we only got to see him in earthrise

[@frankforttheorangee2produc110]

@@gabrielchee8470 I didn’t think of it. It happened years before earthrise.

[@gabrielchee8470]

@@frankforttheorangee2produc110 oh right IDW

[@frankforttheorangee2produc110]

@@gabrielchee8470 and it was Omni productions that called him his U.S name. Since the original dub was Japanese.

[@gabrielchee8470]

@@frankforttheorangee2produc110 and Hasbro doesn't want to admit it exists

[@williambourne1814]

i enjoy learning new stuff about my transformers keep up the great work

[@LeoLucisCaelum7789]

I remember watching transformers masterforce and transformers victory as kid

[@MrDoctorVK]

Fun fact from my history: When I was young, I have this faint recalling that I have actually handled G1 Doubledealer toy but didn't what it was at the time. For that, I should really have ER Doubledealer toy. I admit though that his T30 does even to this day itch my interest (despite flaws what T30 Blitzwing mold had). I would like Basics on Astrotrain as I would like to know (though I can guess) was his mold intented to be part of Diaclone series.

[@PatriciaCross]

Earthrise Double Dealer having a cassette chamber kind of makes me want to make a custom Soundwave out if him. I'd change his head and colors, see if I can give him a more Soundwave like chest, and turn the bird mode into a bat.

[@diamondlockproductions64]

Damn, that seems like a pretty good idea.

[@mattr75]

Would love to Seaspray covered some time soon

[@fen4554]

I remember the first time I saw G1 Double Dealer at a friend's house. Blew my mind. Toys back then had so much heft and presence.

[@izzyandthesubterraneans370]

This is the first video I ever see on youtube without any dislikes, great video!!

[@Nightmare-js7ri]

6:42 That’s The Toy My Brother Got Me A Few Years Back But Mine Can Only Hold His Sword Backwards:\ Still Cool Though!:D

[@lunateix]

Love the content! Keep it up, your stuff's amazing!

[@curtiswilson420]

Basics on Dreadwind/Dreadwing

[@OverlordOfTheRubberDuckies]

you forgot his true first appearance to western media with it being on the big screen in Transformers the last knight

[@fastgav]

As a kid this was one of my favorite transformers to play with. I never had him unfortunately one of friends did. So I only got to play with it at his house. I really liked his 3 different forms a lot.

[@1koolkat76]

I just pick up a complete G1 DoubleDealer a few days ago. Thanks for doing a review on his history.

[@axqiistina7119]

im finally up when he uploads! i love doubledealer he was number one on my list from a couple years ago.

[@vassa1972]

Wow again great video Chris and crew thanks I actually managed to find the leader class earthrise figure of him and probably going to keep it in the box at least for now lol too bad that it wasn't a powermaster and headmaster too, looking forward to the next one. Have a nice weekend there

[@christianbrown2471]

This was a great video and BTW Doubledealer G1 I still have in my collection today. Just a cool concept for a character after we had only known good vs evil from the start.

[@Grimlock1979]

How difficult it must be for Doubledealer to keep his identity a secret from both his powermaster partners.

[@gabrielchee8470]

His JP conversion was also like it.

[@SincerelyToxic]

DD Get out of my Laboratory!

[@razorshark6790]

Lets hope he got that quintesson out of his head to see this

[@epicphantom589]

Spoilers: He gets blown up in a spaceship

[@razorshark6790]

@@epicphantom589 I know it was supposed to be a joke

[@epicphantom589]

Ok

[@KrytenMark]

This helped me to better understand Doubledealer even more, and now I love his character to bits. :)

[@ms-07b3goufcustom9]

I think road rage has potential for a basics episode

[@emilianovillarruelhernande343]

Supergod masterforce sounds like a great show

[@SwedishSeacon]

I love that Doubledealer is the father of all allegiance switching Transformers we have like Armada Sideways, Cybertron Sideways (Noisemaze) and by further extension Animated Shockwave who has a undercover mode, the universe Dinobot toy and Transmetal 2 Blackarachnia toy who both can switch between Predacon and Maximal factions

[@360entertainment2]

Damn, I really like his Japanese counterpart. A teen with two robotic alter egos, I can really get behind that!

[@ZeeTheNerdyVampire]

Great video as always, Chris! For some reason I always thought DoibleDealer was one of those characters who had more toys than they really do

[@Burning-Twilight]

Would love to see how IDW handle this character in their new continuity.

[@javelin_if]

This is the earliest I’ve been for an episode

[@sushma6892]

Me to

[@rodimusrider8798]

I was introduced to him through the Spotlight issues Not a lot of classic G1 triple changers with beast and vehicle modes

[@LiamDyC]

Except for the Horrorcons

[@tffan1029]

Ah, Doubledealer. One of my favorite transformers of all time. The fact that he's a mercenary character who switches from autobot to decepticon is so interesting to me. After watching this video, I remember first being exposed to Doubledealer during the Thrilling 30s toyline of Generations. I once saw him at Target, and I didn't get him, due to my mom at the time trying to get me to stop getting Transformers toys because she said I was "too old" to be buying them. After then, I wouldn't see anything else of Doubledealer until War for Cybertron: Earthrise.

[@Renkencen]

I remember seeing the Generation version toy in a toy shop but since I read beforehand with Blitzwing tight transformation which was the mold he was based from (still had the same issue), I didn't buy him!

[@Firedrake-SP]

I prefer the Masterforce version of Double Dealer.

[@justingates4985]

Masterforce is pretty underrated...it's a shame we didn't get the anime in the West, instead of that god awful Rebirth miniseries...I just pretend it doesn't exist and watch Headmasters instead whenever I revisit the old series.

[@mrjazzhandsgo4740]

Another very informative Video Chris!!! Is there a possibility for a basics on the powermasters?

[@evandavid2816]

Heh, the G1 DoubleDealer toy was one of my favourites as a kid (especially the bird mode)...might have to see if I can track him down at the next TFNation convention as and when it finally takes place, yes?

[@markle9479]

Probably my favorite in the seige line along with Spinister.

[@footlessmoonbadger7189]

The Japanese origin for the power masters is literally a nightmare lol. A group of transformers that are just vessels for humans to fight in. I'm not sure I like the American version all that much better (for all the random characters at least) but I did thoroughly enjoy Power Master Optimus Prime and his bond with High-Q. Same with Skorponok and Zarak.

[@HiperPivociarz]

I like the Japanese concept way more. It makes so much more sense if the Headmasters and Godmasters are the actual guys, and the big robots are just their mechs.

[@originaluddite]

It sort of takes them back to their Diaclone toy origins as mechs. Personally, I like sentient alien robots, but it was good they decided to change things and keep it interesting.

[@HiperPivociarz]

@@originaluddite The Headmasters are still alien robots, they're just small.

[@soundwavesuperior5596]

No it’s stupid japan always does weird stuff

[@twistedgaming9185]

@@HiperPivociarz The Headmasters are Cybertronian. They fled the war and crashed on a planet so dangerous in atmosphere, that they had to build bigger and stronger bodies to survive. And of course, it's the origin of the Godmasters (thanks to Devil Z!).

[@HiperPivociarz]

​@@soundwavesuperior5596 You say that as if transformers having green men in their heads and that supposedly making them stronger is not stupid.

[@BurntTM]

He is such an interesting character and I have his earthrise toy and think that its pretry cool

[@originaluddite]

Can you give it a tape-deck fan mode, given it has space for cassettes? :)

[@BurntTM]

@@originaluddite nope lol last time I transformed him I broke the leg off the peg. My dad needed to cut thr mushroom peg and put the leg back on. I'm never transforming him again. I didnt get much of the micro masters because I didn't really like them.

[@originaluddite]

When Transformers are too scary to transform! We've all been there.

[@gabrielmccreaii431]

I just got into the previous IDW run (got collections 1-3). Ironically, i just read Spotlight: Hot Rod. I like how this basically explains Rodimus Prime's unsure nature.

[@OneNationUnderPug]

Double dealer: I like to play both sides. Sideways: you too?

[@silverwindfox15]

Please do Sunstreaker, Rattrap, Kup or Tarantulas next.

[@owenwildish331]

I had the original and was a favourite :) but I lost one of the parts :( (Hmm, I'm surprised that that as far as I can tell there wasn't a story where Doubledealer encountered Punch/Counterpunch...)

[@owenwildish331]

@Konstantins Zelcs thanks, I hope you'll do a Basics on the Deception Octus, please (if you haven't already)

[@leoneldheming2445]

Love the idea behind this character

[@beastmanreview009]

I absolutely loved the concept of Doubledealer!