Who are THE FATALIS TRIO - Monster Hunter Lore

[@_ichiroshima_550]

Non-Monster Hunter Player: What's Fatalis??? Veteran: I haven't heard that name in years...

[@shinon748]

A year and a half? Hes in Generations Ultimate. All three forms.

[@zerotheassassin4046]

Syris yea but console kiddos who didn’t have a switch didn’t bother with it

[@Djjdwg06]

Zero The assassin same goes for hand held players non of y’all which bother with frontier which had the best variations of fatalis

[@zerotheassassin4046]

Jand Exconde well unless I took the time out of my highschool life to learn Japanese somehow and read it’s writing and such or get a pc with an emulator of some kind to play why do you think I wouldn’t bother I know they have the best versions of Fatalis which I’m actually quite jealous of and hate which is why a little birdie told me some peeps are in the development of making said emulator and an English patch for the game so that’s always good

[@Buphido]

Zero The assassin but console kiddos who didn’t have a switch in all likelihood also didn’t have a 3DS which is where the two MH‘s before GU were on, not even to mention the Wii U. Unless you‘re thinking way back to tri or before a big portion of MH veterans likely actually played GU.

[@Roosalio]

Fatalis is a god like creature who's name is able to shake fear into even other elder dragons, said to be able to regrow from a single scale with an unending hatred for all living things, seeing this monster is like looking at death's door Crimson Fatalis is pure rage itself, believed to have been defeated once which is why one horn is longer, as the horns may have been broken by the one defeated it, able to summon meteors from the heavens, this demonic creature threatens even a normal fatalis White Fatalis is death itself, there is nothing else to tell you, if you meet this literal god Don't fight, don't run, just accept your death and hope no one else shares your fate

[@adamjj7751]

I'm assuming you're just giving the dramatized lore, but don't you kill a white fatalis?

[@oeeo6thealatreon118]

No fatalis hunts in monster hunter are canon meaning it doesn’t actually happen well maybe regular fatalis hunts but not the other two

[@SarazenX]

@@adamjj7751 The Fatalis hunts in the series are there for the sake of gameplay as they were mostly event based as opposed to being story based. Fatalis in Iceborne is the very first time we actually face a Fatalis as part of the story.

[@adamjj7751]

@@SarazenX ... I think you're making a false distinction between "in the story" and "just gameplay. Especially in Monster Hunter of all things.

[@adamjj7751]

The monster hunter wiki has the crossover events as almost all of the non-cannon fights. What source am I supposes to look at to know this is true?

[@lVaderl55]

Imagine rathalos seeing fatalis mid air. Rathalos: What the fffffuck is god doing in here?!

[@hydragon_8570]

Idk coming to fight Satan ( Safi)

[@thechadlordboros]

White Fatalis is just an old boi who wants some hot fish with salsa.

[@saturnringer267]

He really needs to get acquainted with dire miralis. He’s got way too many hot fish with salsa. So much so that his entire arena is covered in salsa and hot fish

[@thechadlordboros]

@@saturnringer267 i'm sure Dire Miralis could give him some hot fish.... an entire oceans worth lol

[@Aykalia]

safi being a gentle simple sailor i bet he could give fatty some hot fishes

[@liveandlearn4445]

Ah good old memes I MEAN TIMES! good old times.

[@zerotheassassin4046]

Tank Top Lord Boros well he’d be surging an ocean of blood so I doubt the fish would even be hot hell as far as where concerned that could legit be a hot tub spot for elder dragons

[@davidkrisdian9856]

funny theory, when hunter wears fatalis armor most of them would go missing and wild and thus become fatalis itself. it is kinda on point because when you’re already using that armor, your game should be already 95% complete and most of hunters after completion would just not play anymore, and called “missing” by the perception of the npc in the game.

[@whitefatalis2743]

well its actually confirmed, read the armor description of the armor in World

[@Seafor-v4l]

That's such a cool lore detail

[@Ivan_Jang]

Read the White Fatalis armor description. It's the opposite

[@hghgHGHG-ob6nb]

Me who accidentally got the full set because of a custom quest at the start of the game😶

[@karlo134652]

So this makes me a Fatalis. Since after finishing early MH games which I fought Fatalis and wearing their armor.

[@T-REX-KNIGHT]

I like how white Fatalis is mix of western and eastern dragon.

[@noahgarcia2711]

I have a theory on how they can connect Fatalis with the update storyline Iceborne has set up. The theory is that Alatreon didn’t go to the Secluded Valley because of the bio energy or the potential threat of Safi Jiiva, he went there just because he’s running away from Fatalis, and that Alatreon would rather take his chances with Safi Jiiva rather than stay in the Old World with a Fatalis coming out of hiding. I think this is a good way to establish Fatalis as a terrifying force to be reckoned and that even something as powerful like Alatreon would fear it.

[@isaacm7934]

So basically like Lao Shan lung running away from Fatalis theory or I think that's a theory I don't know if it's been confirmed or not but this theory of you'res makes a lot of sense

[@noahgarcia2711]

isaac M it’s not yet confirmed but this theory is what keeps Fatalis still connected to the post Iceborne storyline.

[@LordTrung]

I don't think Alatreon ran away from Fatalis, this is not the first time Fatalis appearing, why didn't he run away last time? And why Alatreon come to Secluded Valley? If he just wants to run away from Fatalish and live in the New World, he can just live anywhere else. Alatreon hates any living being, he usually avoids them and lives in a place where there is no life, but he came to Secluded Valley, the home of the Red Dragon, there must be a reason for it, and I think that is the same reason Fatalis come out of hiding.

[@noahgarcia2711]

Infinity Gaming that’s a good point, and we’ll know on October 1. However, unless Capcom adds a surprise on Iceborne 5th update which could potentially have something to do with the Jiiva line, I still think Fatalis appearance may have caused Alatreon to flee to the New World. Also I like to add that one of the requirements to getting the Fatalis Hunt would be to do the Alatreon hunt. So there definitely is a connection between the two of them. Also Alatreon would have definitely went to the Secluded Valley because it’s probably strong with bio energy and it’s out of the reach of most living things in the New World. All it had to do would be to kill Safi Jiiva and some nosy hunters, and the valley is all his. The part when Alatreon was throwing a tantrum in the cutscene, I think that’s him just marking his territory so that other monsters wouldn’t even dare try entering there. However, I do hope Capcom does more with the Jiiva line and how it connects to Alatreon and Fatalis.

[@nmtp7240]

Actually, after completing the Alatreon mission the handler actually says that there was a connection between Alatreon and the "mysterious red dragon" (Safi jiva). So i guess that it doesn't have anything to do with Fatalis.

[@SevenInchesSoft]

Its been a well ride iceborne thank you for all the memorable hunts...

[@joehenderson6293]

There's still gonna be more dlc and updates next year...just got to pay

[@koibitothescrublord4977]

@@joehenderson6293 if it's like Iceborne. Hell. even if it isn't. I'll gladly buy. MHW has been a great game since launch. So I dont mind spending extra to support such a great game.

[@Aesieda]

@@koibitothescrublord4977 No, Capcom confirmed Iceborne is the only expansion for World, and Fatalis is the final major content update for Iceborne as well. Iceborne is basically like G-rank for past MH games. Capcom releases the vanilla game first, then after 1-2 years, they release the G-rank version of the game with the new rank. Then they move on to the next title. Iceborne is no different other than the fact that rather than being a new game in of itself, it's just an expansion that you download instead.

[@Aesieda]

@@joehenderson6293 That's not true.

[@cezarysiemieniewski5502]

But screw you in a eye with jackhammer for softening mechanics.

[@francescofavro8890]

little theory: crimson fatalis is actually overheating from the combination of his internal flames and the volcanic region. that's why he's red and much more "steaming" with rage. old fatalis grew so old that he lost the ability to summon flame, so all the energy that used to be devoted to that, is instead released as pure dragon energy.

[@Will-mk5pj]

This sounds like a great theory!

[@JanusHoW]

You might be right about White/Old Fatalis, except he uses Thunder element, not Dragon.

[@Zero_DaHero]

White Fatalis uses both He is capable of dragon damage in black and red bolts of lightning.

[@Zero_DaHero]

I think your just thinking of the weapon instead of the monster

[@Zero_DaHero]

More or less old fatalis refined and focused his fire and made it into much deadlier bolts of lightning.

[@TheDaemonDD]

One thing is consistent with all 3 godly black dragons. They all mlem.

[@TheTrueTerrydactyl]

Interesting note about the white fatalis- it is said those who manage to hunt the beast and wear its armor will eventually transform into the white fatalis when they wear it

[@victorribeiro6772]

White Fatalis for years has been my favorite Elder Dragon, it´s theme has been my ringtone for very long as well, so much so that when it played in your video I instinctively looked at my phone XD LOL Theese 3 are amazing and even though I´ve never hunted them before, I´m hyped to see them return, starting with regular Fatalis in Iceborn. Still waiting for one day, Dire Miralis´s inevitable return as well!

[@robertleonedneyiii8515]

Hearing that theme reminds me of my 13 carts...

[@kingofflames738]

You gotta wonder, what's the deal with Crimson and White after MHW's retcon? They heavily imply the current Fatalis to be the one of the past. According to the current artbook there haven't been any records, neither burned nor hidden. Only Wyverian murals and tales exist. And that's concerning the normal one. Do the others even exist in the current canon? If they do, no one knows about them, neither crimson, nor white.

[@ChronoPinoyX]

I don't think it's a retcon but more along the lines of a "soft" reboot. The whole burning of Black Dragon documents probably means Capcom wants to provide more concise info on Black Dragons and Iceborne is a good way of starting it. It'd be interesting to see how they approach it!

[@oeeo6thealatreon118]

@Chrono Pinoy X I actually like that idea a lot

[@kingofflames738]

@@ChronoPinoyX only Alatreon's research had been burnt. We don't know what's up with Dire Miralis, but we know that there haven't been any recorded sightings of Fatalis. It's new official description does say it destroyed the kingdom overnight, so the hunters of Schrade probably also didn't even have a clear view, not that that would matter since they didn't live long enough to make records. It's all explained in the artbook they released. In there it also explains that Fatalis doesn't actively melt its prey to its body, it's just its incredible body heat that does it while it sleeps on its prey. The legends of Fatalis armour also probably don't exist, because if no one had seen it, no one could have forged the armour. The MHW armour description will be the only canon source on Fatalis' armour when he releases, since we would be the first people to wear it.

[@ChronoPinoyX]

@@kingofflames738 For the most part, the Third Fleet Master claims the Guild feared "the Old Gods" so they stopped all research involving Black Dragons and burned what they had. At least that's what I got out of it. As for what is official right now, the sightings of all Fatalis in the series are deemed official in terms of lore as they are all connected, in part, to the character simply dubbed "Scarlet Mystery Man" (which is usually the client that hands out the Black Dragon Quests). Depending on how you treat MH Frontier, the lore behind Fatalis melting people onto its body to become armor is attributed mostly to the Frontier iterations of Fatalis moreso than mainline because those versions of Fatalis were actually drawn from ideas that didn't make it to mainline. As for the armor curse, that one I agree in that it's questionable, hopefully Iceborne answers that with the armor descriptions.

[@kingofflames738]

@@ChronoPinoyX the question is: does that even count for MHW? The normal Fatalis quest was always by some monarch. It's funnily enough the only black dragon *without* a scarlet mystery man quest. That begs the question, is the scarlet mystery man still canon? The artbook quotes: "Despite being *assumed* to be a being above nature judging by the numerous amount of *ancient* murals and tales told by Wyverians, there are *no* sightings of this creature, thus making it a myth."

[@shiro2646]

crimson fatalis: *wants to explode* Bazel: Are u challenging me?

[@0270ATG]

Call me crazy but I want the final cutscenes for our hunter in Iceborne to disappear or go insane after using the armor or after the hunt.

[@Zarkaiya]

Yes, please

[@zerotheassassin4046]

You know I’ve seen a comment similar to that people saying or asking if the lore talks about our hunter disappearing if we use Fatalis armor what’s the point in using it and I ask them weather they’d want the lore to come to life then your hunter have sleepless nights with the thoughts of hearing screams of anguish and pain from what some believe are the victims of fatalis till they slowl drift into madness then disappear entirely from the character slot

[@ivasanchezify]

Emm but I like my character

[@zerotheassassin4046]

agendita rarita then it’s a good thing the lore isn’t true to what it say that and plus I’m just not learning any and all info we learnt about fatalis in the past is more than likely fan works since those records of him have now been burnt

[@antialpaka1186]

@@zerotheassassin4046 In one of the MH games (probably Frontier) the Fatalis armor (don't remember which one - normal/crimson/white) actually has an ability that revives you when your hunter dies, the hunter gets a crimson aura or something like that and his/her HP decrease over time plus he/her takes double dmg from any source. This is meant to represent you death and the rebirth of the Fatalis....... a bit anticlimactic that after your HP drop to 0 you simply get respawned in camp but still a noce skill in my opinion. And then there is White Fatalis's negative skill from the 3DS games called Fate, which reduces the reward items you get. But since the devs gave us a hint, the set skill we will probably get is something along the lines of "...let's you activate all secret skills...". And since negative skills are a thing of the past, Fate will probably not return either, or it will have a different effect.

[@gigasire5944]

I’m kinda of scared of the thought of that one G-rank Crimson Fatalis from MH4U were to ever return in the future, since it had access to heatwave attacks I’m already expecting Black Dragon Level Lunastra shenanigans. Who still remembers the quest: “Beyond the Crimson Veil”

[@spinomania1921]

mh4u g rank crimson is best fatalis

[@chaotic9677]

Fun fact , that Crimson Fatalis was released the same year Frontier released his G-Rank Crimson Fatalis

[@spinomania1921]

@@chaotic9677 Huh, didn't know that

[@spinomania1921]

Btw, why ism't the mhgu crimson fatalis like the mh4u one?

[@gigasire5944]

Spinomania have know idea tbh, it’s weird that version didn’t show up in MHGU.

[@Jyharri]

Although I like them all, White Fatalis is still my favorite among the trio. My favorite Black Dragon and second favorite Elder Dragon Amatsu for all eternity

[@thechadlordboros]

Bro same White Fatalis has been one of my favorites ever since i fought him way back in MH Freedom Unite, plus his theme is super underrated.

[@Jyharri]

@@thechadlordboros Definitely! His theme is also on of my favorites in the MH series.

[@macmac6064]

but hes white

[@zerotheassassin4046]

If I may step in as a non canon here I’d personally would love to fight ULTIMATE WHITE FATALIS (MH frontier) cause his theme is fitting of a black dragon in my opinion

[@french_comet]

And here we behold, a man of culture in his natural habitat.

[@furionmax7824]

I love how fatalis is so powerful that it comes in a variety of colors.

[@carltasticdrew9633]

My theory about Crimson Fatalis: Remember that we actually slay fatalis? Well, he's not actually dead yet. Using his last ounce of strength to escape Castle Schrade. The black dragon distance itself far away to his former dwelling considering all of his scars and deep wound, he kept going and finds himself on a smoldering and fiery lands of a volcano. Fatalis stands still in awe on how those pathetic humans can kill him, The Fear Incarnate. Of all those thoughts, he fell down and sink into a deep lake of fire. After a period of time, he rises again. Its scars and wounds are now gone, his scales changed from black to fiery crimson, he spread his lava-covered wings and pillar of flames appeared. Standing tall at the top if the volcano holding a relentless grudge onto those hunters, releasing an roar full of wrath and hatred that shakes everything to the ground, erupting all the small villages near it and turn it into a place of burnt corpses. His agitated roar signifies a warning that he will swore his eternal and fiery revenge not just to the hunter, but to humankind. From now on, he's no longer the fear incarnate, but *THE DEVIL INCARNATE* Crimson Fatalis. (PS. I can picture a regular fatalis turned into Frontier Z Crimson fatalis)

[@sambamanimations8425]

You came up with this? this is awesome

[@carltasticdrew9633]

@@sambamanimations8425 yep hehe. Thank you

[@paulandreig.sahagun34]

Yeah, after you carved some parts it actually escaped and made some buffing.

[@maxaxe1941]

I like this He basically evolved from anger and hate towards hunters

[@gavin1612]

Or maybe he did die and had to regrow from the armor he was turned into

[@sydneysanchez6853]

It makes sense that fatalis is coming back because some hunter out there in the new world must have worn the armor for to long that fatalis came back.

[@janm5854]

Red Fatalis was forced out of Castle Schrade because one hunter accidentally brought bed bugs. Everyone hates bed bugs, the are hard to find and harder to get rid off.

[@Galbrei]

I think it'd be pretty awesome if in MH:W Crimsom Fatalis was a special phase of the base Fatalis fight. Maybe if you break it's horns twice or do enough damage fast enough he goes into a super enraged mode where his scales glow red and the very castle around it starts to melt. This would be like unlocking a hard mode version of that fight with unique quest rewards upon completion. They could even have a White Fatalis phase in there, but I think it'd be better to save that one for MH:W2.

[@oeeo6thealatreon118]

So like kulves fury mold in the siege where if you break enough parts you make it angry in the final phase

[@ruhanahmed1718]

That sounds awesome but is it lore friendly?

[@lorenzoguadelupe8016]

Imagine fatalis transforming into white fatalis in the middle of the fight, similar to shara taking off his rock shell

[@oeeo6thealatreon118]

I actually would not like that

[@oeeo6thealatreon118]

It makes no sense

[@hotsauce8780]

I think its poetic such a simple looking dragon is the most powerful

[@dragoexogon1236]

This is going to be badass I can't wait for fatalis to come out I remember back in the day when me and my friend solo'ed white fatalis and I just see a giant red beam come out of nowhere and over my friends head as the last thing he said was: oh Shiiiiiit then boom

[@Malick-ix9io]

Imagine a fight between Fatalis and Safi'jiiva. Goodbye Earth.

[@thechadlordboros]

The fight wouldn't even happen because everything stays away from Fatalis including other elder dragons.

[@kunaly.5831]

Beast Titan I feel safi would win. Idk why, but I think safi is stronger

[@lixd3054]

Imagine if a white fatalis got repealed and went through the same cycle as crimson fatalis.The power of that fatalis would be unreal!!!😱

[@darkeater856]

@@thechadlordboros this does not apply for all elder dragon. Would Alatreon or safi'jiiva flee if they notice a fatalis?? Simply nooo

[@thechadlordboros]

@@darkeater856 read the lore yes it does apply to ALL living things including elder dragons so like i said it wouldn't even happen because Safi wouldn't even go anywhere near Fatalis, even if this weren't true both Safi and Alatreon are solitary creatures who wouldn't go looking for a fight. Also please don't group Safi with the black dragons they're a league above, Safi is powerful yes but he's wayyyy to over hyped/ overrated only because of recency bias.

[@darthplagueis13]

Gonna be interesting to see what they do with it in World. I mean, in previous games, most Fatalis hunts have been kind of unimpressive, where the power of fatalis was mostly just represented by the fact that it had a bunch of health and dealt so much damage that even chip damage from its tail could take you out if you weren't careful but it wasn't anything unique or special, just kind of unbalanced. The only Fatalis encounter in a main series game that really managed to live up to the status of the monster was in my opinion the Event Quest Crimson Fatalis from 4U which was one of the hardest fights in the entire game (probably the hardest if we aren't including lv. 140 Guild Quests).

[@angellara7040]

What do you think now?

[@zelhomoukai6144]

So the White Fatalis is literally The Elder Dragon

[@dagnar1385]

The Fatalis of freedom unite was so difficult that i had to craft a silver rathalos gunlance to clear the quest and i never managed to kill him.

[@wilabo3390]

Ah White Fatalis, the one that straight up one shotted me....

[@Lyfjaberg-o6t]

Which game? In MH 4U I think he is the easiest from all three. Had I horrible time fighting C.Fatalis because damn g-rank combined with instant rage.

[@proalvinyt8683]

in a battle against White Fatalis its like flipping a coin.. You just died out of nowhere haha

[@Messmer_the_Impaler1]

White fatalis: the grandpa whom everyone respects and revered, the most powerful. Crimson fatalis: The forgotten, broken middle child that has been driven into a rage. Regular: the youngest, fearsome, but does not have the qualitites the others have, like white being pretty much all-powerful, and crimson being so angry it has gained a significant amount of ower and agression.

[@scorpio0494]

6:35 and we turn it into a hat for us and our cats. Get styled on.

[@mobzilla101]

I just hope is no gimmick to this fight like alatreon to add artificial difficulty

[@danielchristman01]

Fatalis is one big gimmick.

[@Mr_Mouthington]

You also forgot about dire miralis. Apparently it’s supposed be a reincarnation of normal fatalis and death itself, sadly it hasn’t appeared in any other monster hunter game since Tri

[@arkhamasylum8972]

That's a theory. It's not proven at least not yet.

[@sanguineregis5354]

The Black Dragon of Fear. The Red Dragon of Hate. The White Dragon of Dominion.

[@Not_MissHina]

Safi'jiva: b-but the red dragon is my title! Crimson fatalis: shut up you fakeh

[@hugo-pg5tv]

@@Not_MissHina bruh white and crimson isn't even canon

[@wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569]

@@hugo-pg5tv Yes, they are.

[@hugo-pg5tv]

@@wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569 they are not, give me a reason how they are and I will tell u why they ain't. try me

[@wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569]

@@hugo-pg5tv They have been present in multiple games before the 5th generation and absolutely nothing states that they are non canon. Just because they haven’t appeared in World or Rise doesn’t mean they are non canon.

[@bobaexellord]

"It's a legendary dragon with the power to wipe everything" Meanwhile, me on my way to skin my 8 White Fatalis to make my new pant with more drip than my ancient one. Anyway, my favorite Fatalis is the White Fatalis, with the Molten Tigrex, he's the monster I regret to not have in MHW

[@regishwadum]

Fun fact: the fatalis theme (except for White. He gets his own theme iirc) is the Forest and Hills battle theme from Gen2 Monster Hunter. All they did was add lyrics that emphasize the threat level of Fatalis.

[@wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569]

Didn’t Crimson had a theme in 4 U

[@regishwadum]

@@wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569 yes

[@fourtimingtarantula3561]

Wild theory: *Hunters fight Fatalis* *Fatalis got cornered and gets enraged then becomes Red Fatalis* *New Theme and area unlocked The Flaming Ruins* *Hunters Fight Red Fatalis then awakens new power by convenient plot* *Red Fatalis becomes White Fatalis then uses its power to lift and change the area, it now becomes The Fallen Ruins* *Final Hunt with all things Do or Cart*

[@korywright]

That sounds cancerous

[@Neonant-]

White fatalis is based on age

[@MorgaAlba]

No, just 2. The one from the castle escapes but you leave it with a scar in the chest so the next one "Crimson" is the rematch and you kill it now.

[@SarazenX]

Except Crimson Fatalis was recorded to have retreated from Schrade "Many Years Ago" before First Gen MH.

[@kingofflames738]

@@SarazenX actually, there are no records of Fatalis aside from stories. What you say might have been true a few months ago, but ever since the release of the artbook we know that only stories exist. Essentially, our MHW hunters will be the first modern people to ever lay eyes upon the legendary black dragon.

[@SarazenX]

@@kingofflames738 Except Iceborne already confirmed that the Guild burned away every record they had on Black Dragons, so everything up until the point of Iceborne in terms of activities by the Black Dragons were all recorded, including the Expedition to Castle Schrade where a group of hunters drove away a regular Fatalis, which was eventually recorded to have potentially evolved into a Crimson Fatalis, after it was found in the Volcanic regions of the Old World. I think the series is just deciding to confirm all those details properly now with a more concise story to really make it all fit together.

[@kingofflames738]

@@SarazenX correction, they burnt Alatreon's records. We don't know whether or not Miralis has any records, burnt or not, but we know that there have never been any recorded Fatalis sightings thanks to the artbook capcom released. Mind you, in a similar artbook they also said Alatreon's records were burnt, so why mention it for Alatreon and then say there have never been any to begin with for Fatalis if both their records had the same fate?

[@FALLENINWHITE]

Fatalis the arisen

[@windhelm7375]

Imagine a single quest where you have to fight all three of these at once

[@langleysenterprise5134]

You need a lot of time to kill them

[@InfinityGamingBros]

my first fatalis was actually white fatalis back during the firs MH game on the PSP, I played it as a downloadable online event sorta thing that the game had and I remember being in awe of the white dragon not even knowing it wasnt the very first fatalis. Let's just say I spent weeks fighting it and I dont think I ever did win but it was sure fun!

[@sckrolik]

Imagine upcoming event where you had to hunt 3 of em in one arena

[@Ready_or_not_here_I_come]

I'm kinda hoping it's going to be some kind of cliff hanger repel quest, where we just break parts of him, then after taking enough damage he retreats, setting the tone for the next MH.

[@zerotheassassin4046]

Maybe that would then lead to crimson and everyone else but they’d have to make an entirely new Volcano map for him then white would be the second coming of fatalis and we fight him in Chrade again

[@acnologi1115]

Theres something I wanna clarify since from what I heard was in the legend the first fatalis that was seen wiped out schrade and and remained there becoming really old and was able to combine dragon with lightning and becoming know to the guild as the ancestral dragon he who challenged humanity and won or the god of all monsters

[@sethblade1451]

Wait a minute!?! If White Fatalis is the world's strongest monster and you kill him does that make you basically the world's strongest hunter and the slayer of the strongest monster in all of monster hunters existence outright( in the game I mean of course )

[@BBLeviathan-Gaming]

White Fatalis is the one believed to have wiped out the Schrade Kingdom, while the others are believed to be descended from it in asexual reproduction via broken off scales or body parts regenerating from battles, or egg laying as only one incident of Fatalis hatching was observed. It grew to adulthood in a matter of hours and immediately became such a threat that the guild dispatched an urgent quest. This was the end result of the urgent egg quests in 4u, which led to you fighting Crimson Fatalis and either driving it off or killing it

[@angellara7040]

No it isn't. That's all made up

[@BBLeviathan-Gaming]

@@angellara7040 it takes a lot of digging and a lot of this was extracted from context or hidden pieces in the games, but there are several clues and lines in the games to heavily imply these are true. Fatalis armor text for one, pieces of lore from earlier games, and outright stated in one instance that Fatalis can do these things. The Fatalis update for iceborne just confirmed a lot of theories since they actually talk about Schrades fall and what destroyed it. Granted white Fatalis doesn’t appear in Iceborne without mods, but check out descriptions of them in games and most of what I said will be on there. At the end of the day, it’s a game, fun to theorize about, and no official statements been released to contradict or confirm most of it (except Fatalis destroying Schrade, that happened)

[@angellara7040]

@@BBLeviathan-Gaming armor and weapon descriptions aren't canon. A garuga weapon mentions how it's never lost an owner, nerg weapons cant hurt the innocent or how the alatreon gun lance was found after a great war

[@angellara7040]

@@BBLeviathan-Gaming fatalis doesn't regen either. The closes we have is the greatsword in pokke which never regenerates past its original forged shape

[@katharinamarschall5662]

I‘m a bitch for the white fatalis - it’s my all time fav monster.

[@Yokai_Yuri]

Wait, I know fatalis(white) might be the one that almost ended humanity and that is why he is so legendary, but I remember reading somewhere else that this fatalis was leading a full army of dragons to fight against the humans. No matter how strong a elder dragon is, a group of humans with technological advancements and hunting skills might kill or fend off the monster. Miralis killed an entire ocean and people was still able to fend it off somehow, and Miralis by itself is stronger than crimsom,.

[@arlinalvera1773]

Miralis actually part of failed fatalis is I mistakes

[@Knight_Igris]

I still to this day have no idea how we killed Dire Miralis I mean c'mon, he destroyed an entire fleet of hunter ships and an entire column of defense towers that were the size of skyscrapers and just 1 hunter ship is needed to take down titans like Jhen Mohran and somehow, we kill Dire Miralis as just 1 hunter? but eh that's gameplay for you. I just wish he gets a revamp and gets an actual threatening fight that makes sense as an end monster that can sink islands. hell, could even make the fight last 2 hours and have siege modes just make the fight fits the lore strength

[@pauloazuela8488]

Kushala is also simple in design thats why I find it hard to differentiate their designs not unless I look at them at the same time

[@polymathecian]

I wish we could get Crimson Fatalis as the Tempered version, and White Fatalis as the Arch-tempered version.

[@drummechan1cs]

WOW I enjoyed the content and when I read your channel name.. Wow! Good job kababayan pre!

[@theunderdog9353]

I'm not even ready to fight Fatalis after 250 hours and now you're telling me the Iceborne version is actually the weakest one??? Boy I'm not looking forward to the next installments... Okay that's a lie, I am looking forward to them. Would give my left nutsack for a new Monster Hunter game, actually

[@nayibarce1696]

I'm just going to say this, if fatalis was a magnificent godly almost perfect endgame fight in ps4 xbox capacity, I cannot even start to imagine what would be if they make crimson or white fatalis for the next console game

[@alvabravo5655]

its tongue really get me on the wrong way..always been

[@pillarmen3381]

He's a filipino, it's natural in our tongue to have a tone like this, atleast his try to speak english.

[@alvabravo5655]

@@pillarmen3381 Idk if fatalis from philipine LOL , check 3:17 , u'll know what Im talkin bout, as every veteran does

[@pillarmen3381]

@@alvabravo5655 oh, i thought you're talking about the speaker's tongue hahhhahaa. Yeah, love the Idea of licking with it's tongue towards you means, "Oh, Another food".

[@kira8260]

wait, so crimson fatalis is the second strongest fatalis? If so, Ive been soloing him for a while and I only faint one time, BUT I haven't been able to hunt normal fatalis

[@Shadest]

>fatalis is said to be able to regrow from a single scale All the hunters who made weapons or armor out of his scales

[@juvockfullman6164]

It would be nice if the secretly put in the other 2 fatalis but you can only unlock them by killing the 1st one

[@zerotheassassin4046]

I mean yea it’d make sense

[@lunardeathblade2570]

Wait, I thought I had remembered crimson fatalis was a fatalis defeated by hunters, and his rage over his defeat caused his horn to regrow larger and misshapen, and the crimson scales upon his body. Also I'm pretty sure Schrade is the ancient civilization. So then crimson fatalis couldn't be the one that destroyed Schrade. I like your videos, but this one kind of confuses me. Not sure if I'm remembering wrong, or if maybe you got some bad info or just goofed

[@tsshuanglongdermitzakis2256]

Imagine taking on all 3 at the same time

[@greengaming9717]

Wow bro chill, dont give them ideas

[@amakun06]

This vid make me remember those old day when i slay white fatalis in monster hunter 2 dos (ps2) for the first time..what a good memory😊

[@zerotheassassin4046]

You know I find it a bit funny that some new world hunters (cause I know old world hunters don’t have much to say about the lore of these monsters since they know them pretty well) find the lore to be “dramatized” or a bit exaggerated but if you look at monster hunter frontier (rip you will be missed) or any of japans takes on the fatalis trio you’d eat your words even down to regular fatalis they show him to be a complete and utter....well monster lol White fatalis has a second stage known as ultimate white fatalis and if fought wrong instead of getting carted you are literally vaporized by lighting let that sink in let’s not forget their OST as well listening to those still give me chills especially crimson I think regular fatalis theme is still the same (then here come the people who say frontier is unrealistic and what not lmao 😂)

[@HairlessPersian]

I oozed myself... when they announced in 2018 that there’d be recurring monsters in future updates, I was hoping, praying, begging for fatalis Update: i can’t kill it.

[@vito4011]

use switch axe

[@HairlessPersian]

@@vito4011 started using HBG... fatalis is a joke now

[@shallbric6160]

@@vito4011 That’s what I like.

[@Zephyr-lp2mi]

Since world's version of fatalis is the first canonical appearance, what if the first time we beat him we don't slay fatalis, but rather repel him... Leading up to crimson fatalis

[@AGO339]

as a long time hunter (gen 1, freedom on psp) im also an over-zelous nerd that hopes we get an aqua or sapphire fatalis, and then a green fatalis so we can have fatalis Tiamat!

[@birkkrabbedewaal8583]

ahh.. a fellow dnd player.

[@cezarysiemieniewski5502]

Oh my god. I need to create a campaign around this.

[@morals-R-life]

Dope vids man keep them coming. maybe you can give us some fun builds in world.

[@dantesparda2511]

i have only now realized, but isn't each fatalis a reference to triglav?

[@L3X1899]

actually there have been 4, you forgot the burning one in 4U

[@french_comet]

Actually, he specifically mentionned him...

[@GonZilla-lp8mt]

Are you talking about dire miralis?

[@french_comet]

@@GonZilla-lp8mt No. There are 2 Crismon Fatalis, with one being from a special quest in 4u.

[@GonZilla-lp8mt]

Ah ok

[@ohno.6516]

I have a feeling if there is a next mhw game we'll most likely get a crimson fatalis

[@thyllium8377]

Unfortunately iceborne won't receive more updates like monsters or somethin like that, because i was hoping to fight more of them, like the crimson, the white, and a lot of missing monsters

[@ErdingerLi]

Really like your very crispy accent. Subbed

[@crazzycreeper8789]

I heard in a video that only a few black fatalis can exist in the world at a time with some theories saying that only four fatalis exist two black individuals, one white individual and one crimson individual.

[@_Tzer]

3 technically 4 if you include g-rank crimson fatalis from mh4u(seriously what is with that one prolly just an elder variant of the crimson one as the regular ones are just normal adults.) Also that fatalis crimson cannot be the og schrade one as it was hatched from an egg in mh4u ye your reward for all the egg delivery quests is crimson fatalis fight. Also fatalis' age could be incredible considering the whole possession thing it shares with alatreon granted fatalis possesses you with armour while alatreon possesses you with it's weapons.

[@Borzoimelon]

Chocolate vanilla and stawberry! :D

[@callmepoki]

Because of the thumbnail i thought you were about to straight up call savage deviljho and stygian zinogre iterations of fatalis

[@f1r3hunt3rz5]

I reckon that the thing about canonicity in Iceborne and Frontier is that both are probably different timelines of the same franchise. You know, like DBZ, GT, Super and Heroes.

[@jeraymymorteau1854]

They are 2 white fatalis? Bcs i saw one full white and one white and black in your video

[@diothevampire3250]

Theres 3 main fatalis but theres also Sapphire Fatalis and Zenith White Fatalis in MH Frontier

[@jezzkiller9835]

I was so inlove with the design of white fatalis 😭 good old daysss 😫

[@mankou-hunter]

This'll be my first Fatalis hunt.. I do wish mhw had more monsters like the previous mh games

[@Not_MissHina]

Never thought that hunting monsters can be this exciting, especially that you literally trying to slay a fcking god itself

[@mono_art143]

After the fatalis hunt (iceborne ver) I must admit, all of its lore are true.. Fatalis alone is a fear incarnate, i don't even wanna think what crimson can do.. let alone the White Fatalis dubbed the 'Ancestor dragon' a.k.a *True God of Monsters.*

[@Rose-85]

*cries in the death of Frontier* Gone too soon... Crimson Fatalis there was too cool...

[@zerotheassassin4046]

They were actually scary lol since they actually were fitting for God of all monsters also rip frontier it actually ran for a good couple of years till last year 2019

[@robertleonedneyiii8515]

The regular Fatalis was a challenge, Crimson Fatalis was crazy tough first to fourth time around with the fifth time being the charm, but White Fatalis gave me nightmares, gave me hell and gave me a reason to use the SOS flare lol

[@dextherjohnson2072]

My brother beat the white fatalis solo on freedom unite with the Knockout Dragon sword I still remember and couldn't believe it until I saw it😐

[@paulandreig.sahagun34]

What if White Fatalis got buffed by: -Being infected by Gore magala's Frenzy virus and survived. -Take a little visit to the Secluded Valley, for a little Bio-Energy buff. -Melt Villager's in Kokoto for his Helmet, Moga for Breast, Yukumo for Braise, Loc lac for Wings and Hands and New world for Feets. And named it "Apex Arch-Tempered White Fatalis."

[@lubbo5261]

*Apex-Hyper-Arch Tempered White Fatalis.

[@wiiu-theunderratedconsole7569]

Elders are immune to frenzy

[@nickharper3137]

Wish sudden surprise final update add white fatalis and crimson fatalis

[@grandoblivion5268]

Waitwaitwait, so Black destroyed Castle Schrade, Crimson also destroyed Schrade, but got toxic and left to live in a volcano, and White was the one in the Ancient Civilization’s destruction, but I thought White did both AC AND Schrade? I’m confused. How do we know the 3 Fatalis we fight isn’t just the same dragon, but at different points in his life?

[@edgarahcow7748]

Well mostly... we don't. All records of the black dragons are nothing but stories and or myths. Is now in iceborne that we had the first official information of the black dragon Alatreon and soon it will be the same for Fatalis.

[@youtubeenigma8316]

To clarify, the story goes like this: Black Fatalis took over schrade. It was then repelled and retreated to the volcanoes where it became Crimson and stayed. White Fatalis is the second coming of fatalis where he returns to retake schrade. So yes, it's the same dragon at different points in it's life. It's probably the biggest reason why the fights were not canon till iceborne.

[@grandoblivion5268]

Edgar AH Cow that’s cool, cause I do like Father Fatty, I was just a bit lost, so any new lore is good lore.

[@grandoblivion5268]

KZbin Enigma ok. That makes things a bit clearer

[@Leonsmane]

Am I the only one that thought " The Never Ending Story" when whitey came out?

[@hystericalsavant3798]

Alright I'm late to this. But i wanna share this extended theory. Again this is just a theory so bear with me So I was looking up Schrade Kingdom lore for my au And I came across a massive point Fatalis, THE Fatlis He never died Not "yeah he comes back as possessed hunter" or "regrown through a single scale" rumors I mean he legit never died. Even though we "kill him" in the games. He's still undefeated by lore. The previous games never mentioned Fatalis dying. Not even the MHW A-lister who has seen him before. Yes the A-Lister is old on the low key. The huntsman with the long sword was around when the first Fatalis popped up in the first online MH game This guy said "what if those fatalis we killed are actually dopplegangers? Offspring? Clones?" At first i was like nah because we dont know its sex. But then I realized something In the lore it said two large sections of the kingdom was destroyed at the same time, where the source came from the center of the kingdom supposedly From what we know, Dire Maralis cant be killed by lore because of what it is. Dalhamuder created the world by simply slithering And white fatalis was so powerful that a legit god had to imprison it. But those are just myths and legends Fatalis not dying by canon is fact And that massive sword thats made with Fatalis scales makes me think What if Fatalis has the ability to create smaller versions of itself to throw us off. Or what if those creatures we think are Fatalis was simply something else that took on its appearance? Like a elder dragons who copies other monsters for defense and offensive purposes? Back to the main thing, Schrade is its nest right? And since a single scale can regrow into a Fatalis by rumor, what if it removes its tail purposely so it can create a weaker Fatalis that we kill? Making us think that its been defeated. But what its really doing is searching for the last remains of the Schrade Kingdom blood lines, the super soldiers we create, our hunters. What if The Real Fatalis looks nothing like the ones we've fought so far? What if this beast of a monster is intangible? If every single living thing is afraid of Fatalis regardless if its bigger than it or not, what caused it to become so powerful? Its not an elder dragon. Nor is it a biologically accurate creature of the world. It has no relative species like normal elder dragons. If this force came from the center of the kingdom, could Fatalis be the real Equal Dragon Weapon? Could what we've been told be lies to cover up the fact that Fatalis, the original Fatalis, the true Fatalis was the product of Schrade scholars playing god? Creating a weapon to fight off the other monsters that they had no control over? Could Dire Moralis and Alatreon be similar products of Schrade? Are there more black dragons that Fatalis freed and and assisted in the destruction of the Schrade Region? More importantly, if Fatalis was a man-made dragon, what power or bioenergy was used to birth such an unholy beast?

[@mrizqyabd1071]

Imagine three of them formed Ghidorah like form

[@LeonThePious]

then zodah magdaros would return amd fight with the hunters

[@kazuheekogaming9517]

I guess its better for them to add the white fatalis to the new Mh:rise since the era were too far now from the actual date of MHW so that means the very first fatalis might grown up old

[@ggwellplay9918]

Do'h, you didn't mention the WF second fase :(

[@not_fatalis]

Technically the legend of the black dragon refers to Frontier fatalis, with the blue glowing chest and the 6 horns

[@dravendfr]

They are connoisseurs of hot fish.

[@danitankmen8213]

Dire muralis is fucking rolling right now

[@jontuxen2724]

"Fatalis" = oh god... "Crimson Fatalis" = Oh God!... "White Fatalis" = OH GOOOODDDD!!!

[@lorenzoguadelupe8016]

Plot twist: the reason we have to go to the old world instead of fighting him in the New world is because he's afraid of team darkside.

[@zerotheassassin4046]

Team darkside: NeRf LbG

[@dragonborn4582]

I actually kinda feel bad for the people who died in castle schrade

[@KliphnirTheHeroe98]

I was expecting to hear about the armor of the hunters to close and turn into fatalis xD

[@lynsassin9343]

Pinoy ka pala bro. Nc finding your channel. Keep it up!

[@andreworders7305]

Wait, why would the Guild destroy records?

[@thechadlordboros]

I have a theory that the Fatalis we are about to face in Iceborne is our old world hunter who after defeating the previous Fatalis became the very same monster he slayed after his armor took over him as is theorized to happen to those who wear Fatalis armor, just a theory but it would be cool if the final boss for Iceborne is pretty much your former self.

[@isaacm7934]

Just like the other guy this theory also makes sense since this is in the lore of Fatalis

[@applepie1852]

Huntsman.....