Who Are The Jack Bros: SMT Lore

[@Tony4You]

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[@ThatBoyAqua]

I love the idea of Jack Frost being such a seemingly cute and harmless demon but in reality he’s a “force of nature” that will kill someone just because. Fantastic work, Tony!

[@Tony4You]

For a mascot he's pretty hardcore. Thanks bro

[@rushink]

True chaotic neutral that Jack is... Ermm... Umm... Neutra-neutral, I guess

[@Draconated]

How did stingy Jack casually own the devil twice? This man should be an endgame demon for such a wealth of feats.

[@Tony4You]

He's an endgame demon in our hearts

[@Fermin-hw5pd]

He can be, generate a password for him in Strange Journey with insane stats, and you have it

[@DustunColeman]

Sounds like he played himself

[@valletas]

Know how smt 2 had a law route that went against yhvh? If one day they make a chaos route where we reject lucifer stingy jack should be the chaos rep

[@cool23819]

The devil gets fooled by a drunkard from Ireland twice and then loses a fiddling contest by some hillbilly in Georgia twice. For a king of hell he certainly loses to the strangest of things

[@Tony4You]

unlucky

[@AttacMage]

he gets too overconfident, I hear.

[@redacted4649]

Big L

[@videorelaxant2780]

@@AttacMage pride does come before fall

[@shis1988]

His SMT incarnations imply wariness of humanity's potential, but also has a lot of hubris at points.

[@DeisFortuna]

Honestly, I feel like a follow-up about the various Atlus Original Frosts (and/or, just, like, Atlus OC demons in general) would be pretty interesting, even though the "mythology" around them is super modern stuff, like Space Marines or Sentai. (Or things which would logically exist as demons.)

[@_zyphis_2281]

Please do this

[@videorelaxant2780]

I'd like to see it as well. Cant believe tony left out hairyjack. Tony4you more like Tony4get.

[@caliburnabsolute8517]

Everyone talks about King Frost, but Queen Frost deserves some love too

[@dededeletethis9940]

The existence of a lucifer jack frost is still one of my favorite facts about this franchise

[@stellarkym]

...or the government

[@manuelvasconcelos8982]

Considered the fact the Jack the ripper is the only jack bro that doesn't Finish a sentence saying "hee hoo" takes me to believe that he's not Jack bro at blood but at heart

[@dantemustdie00]

Yeah in SMTIV/Apocalypse, when Negotiating with him, he doesn't even ever say Ho, so he's a suspicious one.

[@manuelvasconcelos8982]

@@dantemustdie00 qre you saying that jack the ripper is suspicious? If so then it makes sense to his origin

[@SuperShirikibros13]

Jack Bros. is truly one of the found families of all time unironically.

[@kenyon7619]

​@@manuelvasconcelos8982 ripper jack (thats his name, fight me nerds) is loke that weird guy at partys that was asked to attend becuse the host is their friend that wants to help with their anxiety and also not wanting to exclude anyone

[@archest_archie6085]

Always a good day when Tony4You uploads. In any case, I like how Jack Ripper's official art looks like a child playing with scissors, contrasting with how gruesome his real-world origins are

[@TheEcoolarg]

Yes finallly someone gives Jack Skeleton his place in the Jack Trio he deseveres. Im kinda sad about Atlus not giving him much attention at all these last few years

[@Tony4You]

I like him a lot, but I can see why lol

[@giraoshaw]

Kinda hard to mystify a being with documented criminal history unlike the other Frost's who are based on folklore.

[@donbototo5068]

@@giraoshaw well... jack the ripper is part of the england folklore, he never was captured and are so manny theoris about who was he

[@giraoshaw]

@@donbototo5068 that is true but it is still a brutal unsolved murder case with very real people involved rather than a folktale explaining why your windows frost or how the devil is really gullible. It seems a little insensitive to characterize a historical murderer with the likes of Jack Frost.

[@guccidonbuzzflightyear4440]

darumadolly you can be a folklore based off a real person 100%

[@maun6139]

Finally the most important lore

[@Tony4You]

The long awaited Brothers Jack episode. My magnum opus

[@elfiebranford9330]

Although the actual backgrounds of Frost and Pyro aren't exactly cute, I always loved the juxtaposition of their portrayal in MegaTen. That being said, while such a feat wouldn't exactly be easy for someone like Jack the Ripper, I still find him cute lol. He's sorta like a "Hey, I'll slice ya!" kinda guy, but he's really not a bother given his stature xD

[@m.s.e.advanced2842]

They're only the most ancient and powerful demons and hee-homies in all of Megaten

[@dededeletethis9940]

Y’know, i’ve been wanting jack the ripper to appear in smt for a while. To learn that not only has he already appeared, but that he is the third jack bro, was kind of surreal

[@Tony4You]

Jack Bros for life. Shame he isn't coming back, though he is a little graphic lore wise

[@jesusmejia3417]

​@@Tony4Youwhy isn't he coming back?

[@frozec8568]

Man I love the huge smile design Jack Frost had

[@flareb99]

I sometimes forget about how gruesome the ripper was. Can see why he got replaced by black and king frost

[@jj_grabes]

I didn't even know Jack Ripper appeared in SMT. I'm surprised he's barely been used.

[@xionveil7054]

I'm pretty sure he's in SMT IV too...

[@Comrade_Hee-Ho]

I love Jack-o'-Lantern, he's cool 🎃

[@Tony4You]

A nefarious little trickster

[@Comrade_Hee-Ho]

@@Tony4You just like me fr 😤

[@eelikuusniemi.3513]

I live in finland, and of course my favorite demon is Jack Frost just because it's the only one that appears in finnish mythology.

[@petrock4041]

Thanks for having me on! Now please let me out of your basement, I've been editing videos for 5 days, and the spaghetti you gave me ran out.

[@Tony4You]

Three plates of spaghetti for a video was the deal. You did good though so I'll throw in a bonus plate

[@m.s.e.advanced2842]

Need a new Jack Bros game

[@Tony4You]

Big true

[@donaldtrump2728]

A DDS style Jack Bros.

[@guccidonbuzzflightyear4440]

Black frost is my fav character in SMT he’s like the Jack Frost Wario and his design is sick

[@godonomas]

My face when My face when I play the old smt games, and find out there are several demons that say hee-ho 🗿

[@firebeam24]

Jack brother's are the best demon/persona of the serie hee-hoo

[@dil2124]

he give you a paper that said "hee you win ho"

[@TempestDacine]

Wow after hearing the tale of stingy jack Im a huge fan of pyro jack now! Thanks for the video as always

[@TheSwordsman100]

This was a great video He Ho! My favorite out of the 3 is Jack Frost, with my favorite variation being Frost Ace.

[@camanesis6003]

Tony I know you wanted to say the heeho in jack frosts quote

[@Tony4You]

😳yes

[@Genji-Agito]

I'm surprised stingy jack didn't ask the devil to leave his soul alone for eternity from the get go, but still being able to outsmart satan himself.........respect. Still, since he was banned from heaven and hell, wouldn't that mean he's in limbo? They could at least let him reincarnate, hopefully into a somewhat decent human being.

[@kyuugoki]

I was so disappointed that SMTIV didn't have a SAMURAI JACK. I mean, c'mon, it's right there.

[@TheMidnightChannel]

Another banger video bro!

[@Tony4You]

Thanks king👑

[@DarkenRaul1]

Great video as always, Tony! Would love to see follow up videos on the lesser known Jacks at somepoint just because they're all very strange and interesting (like how King Frost is like a mech for Jack Frost and what the heck is up with the fruit-based Jacks?). In any case, keep up the great work!

[@jive238]

Apparently jack the ripper is too gruesome to be a mascot in SMT but is wholesome enough to be a psycho loli waifu in FGO.

[@MrDarksol]

At this rate we should just get A SMT cross over with fate just so we can see the wacky shenanigans surrounding some of these demons meeting with their servant counterparts lol.

[@CDBookManGaming]

Yeah, but in SMT V, Jack Frost said he was my Hee-homey, so that should make up for the killing people.

[@lhfirex]

Pyro Jack is my favorite of the Jack Bros too. In Atlus's Etrian Odyssey games, I like to name my guild Jack Bros and then create a main roster of Jack Frost, Pyro Jack, Black Frost, King Frost, and Frost Ace.

[@valletas]

No ripper?

[@InconspicuousBot]

Yay. I love your lore videos because they explore the origins of characters to provide context for their roles in the stories of SMT. I have always been fascinated by the narratives of different mythologies and religions because they are incredibly insightful to the lives and histories of the people who created the stories. Keep up the good work.

[@Slenderquil]

I just started playing Jack Bros yesterday, what good timing!

[@fortex24]

My favorite Jack Bro is Jack Off, he's a blast to have around.

[@edje_tean5794]

Chestnuts roasting on an open fire. Jack Frost nipping at your nose. *ouch*

[@michaelgrant6899]

So is there a good reason why Jack the Ripper is left out of every game? I was waiting every day for him and Shiva when they were revealing smt5's roster. I just want to make a Jack Bros. Team

[@Tony4You]

Alas we might be waiting a lot longer

[@shelbybayer200]

I think it's because how they make the character cute but the lore behind his name sake is Dark

[@gates7831]

I hope that you do Black Frost eventually, if only to confirm the theory that his design was influenced by black ice.

[@ChrisingoXD47]

The way you talked about Jack the Ripper reminded me of the Lemmino video on him

[@mrcool9090]

Ok the jack o lantern story was actually really cool.

[@hisnotsolonely2961]

Now we need Spring heel jack

[@dmytrom297]

Please do a video on other Frosts. I wonder if there's enough of them to create an ensemble cast show using just them alone.

[@vicneti]

banger vid as always king

[@Tony4You]

thanks king 👑

[@masterseal0418]

Other iterations of Jack Frost had him as a dreamboat(in the book series turned DreamWorks film Rise of the Guardians), while he was played by Martin Short in the third Santa Clause film, and acted like a brat towards a cub who ran away from home in some Paramount short from the 30s. Stingy Jack was carried over to the first Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy Halloween special, and on the other hand, it's best Jack Ripper doesn't return because of it's origin.

[@franksturino9129]

You forgot about Jack daniels

[@poetscotty]

I would say Jack The Ripper was a barber that would make sense easy way to collect information among other things

[@TRUEKingEN]

Do you think you’ll ever do a list of some demons you’d want to be brought back?

[@celestee2264]

Your voice is so soothing. I came here after the angel spheres video and I'm ready to binge watch the rest! These are great to get started in mythology deep dives

[@Tony4You]

Thanks a lot! I'm glad people are enjoying them enough to watch them all

[@aizensa9708]

Immediate like as always but hearing that smt 5 Tokyo music? Wish I could double like

[@Lumpus]

it’s always a good day when Tony uploads

[@ShiftyGuy777]

What an interesting trio, I say. And of course, my favorite of the three is the rarest compared to his comrades. But then again, I usually just stick with Jack-O'-Lantern.

[@JackieJKENVtuber]

Wish they'd used Jack the Ripper more, can't get enough of the little guy

[@RayquaSr.]

I'm the guy who, when asked about favorite demon, will answer the jack bros and then set.

[@ClvrBstrd]

Yes! It's the boy-hee's, hoo!

[@jellyface401]

Constantine O'Lantern

[@TheKazal]

Damn, I love the variations. Like mythelogy getting modern characters. King Frost in SMT5 is really 'cool'. And I just played Devil Survivor, where Black Frost made a lot of sense in a way. Ace Frost was a favorite in my forth game playthroughs, not to mention the Demonica gear stealers.

[@usagifang]

What if Jack the ripper wasn't one person but a group of people? Would explain the difference in severity of the murders.

[@serp892]

Hairy Jack is my favorite

[@shaynecarter-murray3127]

Inreally enjoy Black Frost in SMT5. Both his NPC quest and having him in my party midggame

[@RealDemimondaine]

Fantastic video! I really enjoy watching your lore videos. I do have a quick question, where does the music when you were talking about Jack the Ripper come from?

[@ImNotAMaidL]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYPZnYVqoLeJiJI here ya go

[@RealDemimondaine]

@@ImNotAMaidL thank you very much!

[@rueshady]

Dude hearing the story of stingy jack makes me think what if the SMT have an alternative but deliverate way to baboozeld the bosses and make them weaker or even now shoot kill them that could be absolutely nuts. A little hard to balance but if you have the resources, knowledge and skill to pull it out I don't see ant problem trying this.

[@Beldurkin]

I knew the lore behind Pyro Jack, but I had no idea Jack Frost's could be traced so far back.

[@umcaraaleatorioeggs3339]

Atlus should really make a new Jack: *Jack Black*

[@ChrisVoiceman]

I'm surprised they went with Jack the Ripper instead of Spring-Heeled Jack. Still from English, still said to terrorize and kill people, but they could have taken more liberties to make him cute. Not to mention that he's fictional. I think Jack the Ripper being a real life serial killer has less people willing to think he's cute little mascot.

[@TheTboy103]

I think jack is my favorite 😂

[@teddysaliwa5770]

Jack Frost with bufudyne

[@brickwall7960]

jack bros!!! another banger

[@MasakiAndoh]

They're bros who got the Ho card for free

[@TORchic1]

Hell yeah! Our Hee-Homeboys!!!

[@wpdenni]

Definitely would have loved a vid going over all of the Jack variants.

[@dandydante7924]

When I was a child I remember my inquisitive nature leading me down some curious rabbit holes, always trying to learn about mysteries "rather counter Culture", I was gifted a book about various unexplained topics "Jack the ripper" featured in a segment and to my shock one of his victims was on display in the pages and that picture was my "reality check" if you will, that one day I to will die. Her face, will forever be etched into my soul.

[@sadsadsad5000]

would be nice if you could make a video on the DDS asura demons or the goetia demons, or maybe cool concepts like the pseudo fiends in the series

[@nesmario123]

jack frost first appeared in digital devil story 2 and moreso resembles frosty the snowman than the iconic design we know today

[@iloverobinfromarknights]

4:32 Bro put a jump scare warning.

[@82seno]

I should have heeded your warning about the victim's pics...one of them in particular will haunt me forever 😨

[@lunaromancia]

Anyone know the tracks that play during the Jack o' Lantern and Jack Ripper segments?

[@TheKazal]

World Map Theme from Shin Megami Tensei 4 Apocalypse is one. The other is so jazzy, it has to be from Persona 5. Try listening to it's OST. EDIT: Damn, there are a lot of songs for P5(R). I didn't realise how much I hated the Mementos song as much as I did after hearing it again. Anyway, the second one you are looking for is "AI and Heart"

[@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668]

3:36 I love that sassy pose

[@teeth227]

i love lean!(jack frost)

[@pugtrees]

Anyone know if there's a reason behind the "hee ho" speech styles or if that was something Atlus just threw in for fun?

[@Chichaetomate]

no love for the frost five... ok :c

[@GrimmShadow]

MY BOYS

[@Benjamin-ml7sv]

Can you do a video on Krishna?

[@Tony4You]

I hope to branch out to more religion representation eventually. Krishna will be a big video though lol

[@orpheus_telos5317]

Amazing video, as always

[@Tony4You]

Appreciate it king

[@quint2568]

a few months ago they revealed who jack the ripper was. they found living descendents

[@th3n0th1ng5]

The story: 👹 The BGM: 😊

[@a_dumbuser]

Now this is the REAL IMPORTANT SHIT IN SMT

[@captainkawaii666]

Something I noticed- you pronounced Samhain "Sam-Hain", like the way it's spelled It's actually pronounced "Sah-Wain" Not a big deal or anything, just something that I always feel the need to point out when I see it somewhere

[@dr.joctor3454]

i had no idea mr o'lantern was such a baller wow

[@Tony4You]

Yeah he's a real legend

[@gab_v250]

Now I get it why Pyro Jacks are the first enemies Joker fights in Persona 5. They're neutral, and they're kinda tricksters (like the P5 protagonist).

[@DeanParkAudios]

Loved this video :)

[@illuminoeye_gaming]

Hee homeboys gathee-here

[@leonidastheduck6546]

I really need to ask you this, how has smt changed or influenced you? Like why do you cover it on your channel and how did you get to know smt?

[@Tony4You]

It had a profound influence on my life, as obviously I made this channel because of it lol. I covered it because I thought I could use it as both a way to gush about my favorite game series as well as my passion for researching history, theology, and folklore. It really was a match made in heaven, Great JRPG series, and interesting real world inspiration.

[@dialaskisel5929]

For today's "well ackshully" comment, I have brough you this: Samhain is pronounced more like "Sah-win", because the Irish apparently love words that sound nothing like the way they are spelled. What? Stop looking at me like that! I'm no Cr-hee-p ho!

[@Tony4You]

Oh interesting! Sorry I just kinda thought it was pronounced like that lol

[@dialaskisel5929]

@@Tony4You A lot of Irish proper names are like that lol, so don't fret. "Sidhe" for example is pronounced more like "she". It's weird and confusing.

[@BrownTown1897]

Jack Bros? More like Jackboys, am I right Trav?

[@billlllllllllllll]

jack ripper my beloved…

[@YasEmisDaBus]

Obligatory Hee Ho! I love these guys, Black Frost (not a Jack bro but he counts) hard carried me through the Mitsuo dungeon in P4

[@Zahri8Alang]

I love jackrabbits

[@Black_Revue]

No Love for Jack Atlas?

[@carlos6230]

Hee-hoo!