Did He Radicalize You?

[@Connorses]

You know it's a dystopia because someone intentionally built a sentient fire hydrant when it could have just been a fire hydrant.

[@tiagobelo4965]

this will 100% happen if we get full on AI, someone will make a fully sentient toaster and doom what could be considered a being to toast bread until it fails

[@deadmemes21]

Aperture Science:

[@amog8202]

@@tiagobelo4965 "A TOASTER IS JUST A DEATHRAY WITH A SMALLER POWER SUPPLY!" -Toaster

[@Emiturbina]

Isn't this what the techbros with no real knowledge are trying to do

[@signisot5264]

"Some asshole thought 'Hey, you know that thing that we throw against a wall many miles per hour every single day multiple times per hour, you know what would make that better? *If it could feel pain*' .... *WHAT*" - Brian David Gilbert

[@bradleyvenovich6160]

"The world youre looking for no longer exists. Ya missed it kid." Thats it. Thats been our whole lives.

[@manitoba-op4jx]

that movie also radicalized me on right to repair. which is based

[@haruhisuzumiya6650]

​@@manitoba-op4jxsame, it lends to the defeatist culture of liberalism

[@bige2867]

It really has been, I saw this movie as a kid and have always thought back on it from time to time, this vid was really good

[@stetson_newsie2600]

​@@manitoba-op4jx This!!! Anything that breaks, my first thought is how I can fix it. My dad also instilled this in me, and got me an iFixit kit in high school that I still use today.

[@alexisross9343]

... Ow... Yeah, yeah that's exactly it. That hurt my soul.

[@DonNinja05]

It's like a fusion of Jazz and Funk, it's called Junk. I love this movie so much, it's so inventive and fun to watch.

[@NapoleonVIINap]

Its a great movie I didn't talk about it in the video, but I really loved how inventive and stylistic it was. The whole sequence in the 'robot city motor way' where they're flung across the city kills me.

[@Yomamakizmanuts]

Why “Junk?” I’d assume it sounds better than “Fazz.”

[@table2.0]

@@Yomamakizmanutsit’s a quote

[@itzmedb8290]

@@Yomamakizmanutshor hor horhor hor

[@maxmanchik]

​@@itzmedb8290*FREDDY FIVE BEARS?!*

[@bakedpotato1717]

Fun fact: there are wooden trees somewhere in the Robots universe because Rodney was delivered in a cardboard box

[@zetagen]

"Comrade Copperbottom" as an online handle goes very hard

[@M0ONCommander]

follows the 'political signifier' + 'niche popular culture element' moniker convention. similar to "Slayyyter Syndicalist"

[@Maccycheez]

Or something I’d call my Russian boyfriend.

[@Arthurskittenboywife]

@@Maccycheez id be offended, My bottom is nothing if not Gold

[@itskyansaro]

I play Enlisted and a player on EU servers I often see is called ComradeBigweld XD

[@artsyscrub3226]

@@itskyansaro I love people lmao

[@Bilboswaggins2077]

Absolutely insane how this movie is about a disenfranchised, disabled underclass who revolt against a eugenicist plot for mass genocide

[@normanclatcher]

(It was about Robots so they snuck that past the censors.)

[@asscheeks3212]

While also being weirdly patriotic in an American way, like how the USA acts against Germany WW2

[@Romuluz369]

​@@normanclatcher Lol they forgot to teach their censors that people were just machines the whole time 😂

[@lancepowell2032]

lion king's about an oppressed minority being promised food in exchange for support in a regime change then literally eating their leader

[@TommieTheCommie]

Sounds familiar

[@Toasty150]

For the longest time, I thought the movie was about the American Healthcare System. With spare parts being put out of production and the "Alternative" are these expensive upgrades that the lower class are unable to afford. It's fascinating seeing the comparisons to previous eras of the US that I had never thought about. Your interpretation on this was great! Keep it up!

[@NapoleonVIINap]

Honest the healthcare system is an equally great pull, that reading of the movie would work incredibly well! But I'm thrilled ya liked the video :)

[@1Orderchaos]

The wonders of the death of the author.

[@Markm8]

Because it is

[@CODDE117]

I had healthcare vibes too, with dad literally dying because he couldn't afford upgrades

[@BanditDankAs]

And all because big pharma is emune to competitors because they have pattents and intellectual property

[@TheSpeep]

Let us not forget that this movie ends with Ratchet getting hanged... Perhaps they really were trying to tell us something?

[@NoName-oz3gj]

What about Ratchet's dad then? What does he symbolize?

[@dean_l33]

While literally hanged he's not dead you know

[@Gelatinocyte2]

@@dean_l33 I mean it's symbolic, I guess.

[@Shythalia]

We miss you, Guillotine-chan..

[@Maccycheez]

@@NoName-oz3gj Why, the death of the patriarchy of course!

[@JaquesBobe]

It is unnerving how accurately Robots predicted the entire business model of modern Apple. "Why be you when you can be new" and "Just buy your mom an iPhone" are basically saying the same thing.

[@boneappletee6416]

valid Every time someone uses that clip where Jim Apple says "Just buy your mom an iphone" I can't *not* be repulsed and disgusted. It hurts my soul directly. [typos/errors intended coz fuck apple]

[@trikstari7687]

That could essentially be the trans slogan. It's a literal cult meant to indoctrinate people to the left, with the act of transing one-self being a form of ritual scarification as a form of dedication.

[@jasondenni4162]

Robots didn't predict Apple's entire business model, it was commenting on it. Before the iPhone was even released, Apple was doing this for decades by now. The trend of the time was with the various models of iPod being pushed out on a yearly or near yearly release with a similar attitude around obsolescence.

[@stickfigure31]

Apple has been doing this most of the time they existed. With only a brief pause when Steve Jobs got kicked out, but when he came back and launched the IMac in the late 90s he brought back that business model. At the time of Robots he was doing that with each gen of Ipod, which was really absurd people fell for it because there is not much you can change with an mp3 player (more storage?)

[@thetee8682]

@@stickfigure31 same could be said about today's phones. What's there more to improve on the last gen of iphones/galaxy/pixel (more speed?). But we're by now trained by corporations to get the latest and new [insert shiny thing] every year or so. And yes, we can blame Apple (and I will) - but it's also a result of that "golden age". We currently cannot afford reasonable rent, prices for food are skyrocketing but people are willing to use their credit card to buy the latest phone when they get out.

[@redrumgmv161]

wait... does that mean that Robots is a cyberpunk dystopia?

[@skoomaaddict1010]

Everything is cyberpunk if you squint just right

[@anonymousapproximation8549]

​@@skoomaaddict1010 ...I was going to bring up Lord of the Rings, but then I remembered Saurons whole thing.

[@zanderdev57]

More like diesel punk that is resisting the transition to cyberpunk

[@awittyusernamepleaselaugh7481]

@@zanderdev57 Eh I'd say the older stuff is dieselpunk and the fancier "upgrades" and robot city itself are atompunk?

[@zanderdev57]

@@awittyusernamepleaselaugh7481 I have not seen atompunk. Does fallout align with it?

[@27duuude1]

Radicalized me to learn how to weld, fabricate and drive a toyota.

[@Dee_Just_Dee]

Amen on Toyota. There's practically no learning involved, just settling. They're just such wonderfully simple and reliable driving machines. They won't win many races, but they'll hum and sing along at any RPM, put up with some really poorly timed and executed gear shifts, and turn like forklifts. There are so many 20- and 30-year old Toyotas on the road, it's kinda ridiculous.

[@rebelcat_1261]

@@Dee_Just_Dee Two decades old, 200,000 miles, a squeaking serpentine belt, and it runs like a... well, it runs.

[@WindsorMason]

@@rebelcat_1261 For how long have you been stalking my car?

[@bbbbbbb51]

​@@rebelcat_1261I have a 2 decade old Ford at 210k. I'm never going American again, but I'm surprised this thing has lasted me as long as it has. I've kind of been waiting for it to die, but it's trucking along. Tons of electrical issues, but the core is going solid.

[@FindTheFun]

I don't know for a fact, but I'm almost positive that quote in the beginning is repurposed from the ending of The Epic of Gilgamesh. "The world that you look for, you will never find, for when the gods created man they let death be his share."

[@jessejones7251]

So wild that one of the oldest existing stories starts off separating its setting from ages passed. Like, humanity has literally always been thinking about progress and the changing of times

[@theeccentrictripper3863]

@@jessejones7251 And more importantly that some things never change, we should be careful in thinking that new modes of thinking or technology will change the game, that kind of hubris has and will again lead to tens of millions of deaths if followed to their conclusions. The end of the movie is the most optimal solution, as no perfection can ever occur, just like with Gilgamesh failing to achieve immortality. "‘Gilgamesh, where are you hurrying to? You will never find that life for which you are looking. When the gods created man they allotted to him death, but life they retained in their own keeping. As for you, Gilgamesh, fill your belly with good things; day and night, night and day, dance and be merry, feast and rejoice. Let your clothes be fresh, bathe yourself in water, cherish the little child that holds your hand, and make your wife happy in your embrace; for this too is the lot of man.’" This is the best we can hope for, this is what we should seek, never utopia, for that is outside our allotment.

[@emmyturner7385]

Are you under the impression that quotes can only stay in their original works? How long ago did you learn to form words?? Geeze

[@moosecannibal8224]

@@emmyturner7385 I don't mean to be rude, but you seem to be acting very aggressive about something that the original commenter didn't even seem to intend to imply. What did they say that made you think what you do?, and please elaborate on your point further because if you're still sure of what you said then I must be misinterpreting what you wrote as what I think you meant just doesn't seem to apply.

[@moosecannibal8224]

@@emmyturner7385 Like, my interpretation of the comment, in my own words, is: "I'm not sure about this, but I'm pretty sure the quote at the start is a repurposed version of a quote from The Epic of Gilgamesh [insert quote here]" It doesn't seem to be implying that the quote CAN'T be in other works, and that they must only stay in those works, but simply that they thought it *came from that* as inspiration. But your comment seems to imply that they're making a very demanding statement about how quotes can only be found in the original work they came from, and that because of this, the commenter is stupid, even though not only did they not say that at all (in my opinion), but that it was such an offensive concept to you that someone could think that about quotes that it pissed you off to the point of aggression and rage towards them. I don't mean to overstep my bounds, as a stranger on the internet my knowledge of your opinion and circumstance can only be gleaned from your singular comment directed at another person who I also do not know in the slightest, but it really does seem that either you severely misinterpreted their comment in a way that doesn't make any logical sense to me, or that I severely misinterpreted your comment in response to them, and that you're simply making a joke that went over my head or that you know something I don't about the implications of referencing The Epic of Gilgamesh. I just... I just don't get why you were so angry, I guess... It just felt weird to read.

[@parsnippal1754]

what do you mean no systemic change? we got rid of the bad billionaire, and we have a new good one! the dynastic succession was reinstated properly, so it’ll all be good now 😊

[@VoxAstra-qk4jz]

Average harry potter book

[@walidhammadou4605]

The concept of corruption shall make this a cyclical occasion

[@aguspuig6615]

unironic monarchy W

[@alexanderhill2569]

"Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss." -- The Who, Won't Get Fooled Again

[@nicholasgutierrez9940]

I'm sure allowing some random hobo from the country side will be far more safe than someone competent everyone knows.

[@sunfishensunfishen2271]

Watched that movie incessantly as a kid, and now here I am fixing my friends cars. Never actually put the dots together until now

[@sunfishensunfishen2271]

Main character syndrome 😵‍💫

[@VikingRul3s]

So after watching this highly intelligent video, by a poster that doesn't comprehend the difference between common sense and radicalization, you've now concluded that you're trying to fix a car because of that movie. Waoh, just waoh... And they say the new gen isn't that smart, glad you proved them wrong

[@Mr.Chedda_]

@@VikingRul3s you're really reaching to get mad at something, aren't you, lol.

[@VikingRul3s]

@@Mr.Chedda_ Nope, but tha was exactly my point, glad you're so wise that you figured it out, lol

[@Mr.Chedda_]

@@VikingRul3s you calling everyone wise and smart sarcastically so much is really showing your insecurity my bruther, might wanna chill a tad

[@junecarter2455]

I've never heard someone talk about Robots in terms of Rodney himself, and not just as a wide-stroke analysis about what it 'says about society' or whatever, in a video essay before and honestly I really like it. I feel like it's a view that's a lot more human scale and that understands why we love the movie and can project onto Rodney. This was cool to watch.

[@shrippie-4214]

You know I vividly remember that line the most "The world you're looking for is over you missed it kid"

[@erickmoczulski1582]

Something I find deeply funny that you can read this movie as a critique of late stage capitalism from both socialist AND conservative viewpoints. Wait! wait! Let me yap for a second. Hometown of our mc is a picture of golden age small town. Robots who live there work hard and earn little but can live good lives thanks to a supporting structure of their family. Not just loving spouces and children but also cousins willing to give you spare parts for your kids. It's a golden picture of a conservative, rural town where family is everything. And that ideal is beaing destroyed by late stage capitalism. Spare parts needed to live made unavilable by a souless, greedy corporation based in some far away metroplolis. This movie pits people on both sides of the politycal spectrum against souless, cold and moneydriven bisneses while halfheartedly trying to stick to the status quo. At least that's my take on a mater.

[@Illitha]

Omg thats an amazing take

[@dandeluxe8731]

How is the concept of "family is everything" exclusively conservative? Socialism has nothing against families. Also, capitalism depends on people preserving the status quo. Wanting things to stay the way they are is basically what conservatism is.

[@jhakardballoch2986]

​@@dandeluxe8731 I wouldnt say its exclusively conservative, but it is a cliche of conservatism. And in my observation, having a support network is a little bit like having a small group of socialism inside a capitalist society.

[@planettrax9754]

There is no conservative critique of capitalism. It is just alienated socialist critique. Marx was already aware of how the working class, when not freed from alienation, can be politically active - but reactionary.

[@IbnRushd-mv3fp]

@planettrax9754 yeah because socialism has such nuanced critiques like repeating the same fallacy that economic standing is the only human experience that matters in history.

[@heartless2147]

Spare parts and Upgrades were treated like medicine or cosmetics. Ratchet wasn't an idealist who got corrupted, he's a narcissist using profit as a rhetoric to get rid of people he's personally disgusted by. Ironic considering his parents, he's similar to Tom Riddle in that regard to his hypocrisy. He says in the boardroom that he calls bots who can't afford upgrades scrap metal, their corroded frames and asymmetric forms makes his skin crawl. That's like all the marketing in media showing attractive people and making the viewer feel bad enough to change their appearance via surgery or makeup. Rodney's love interest Cappy has that as her back story, even though it was cut from the movie. Her mom and dad were poor, she goes to Robot City and gets hired to Bigweld inc, then meets Ratchet who gaslights and peer pressures her into getting upgrades, that's why she's chrome in the movie.

[@Romanticoutlaw]

as someone who watched a good many children's movies in 2005, considering I was a child in 2005, I firmly believe that we're just meant to have faith that rodney will magically fix everything. The one Bad Guy was overthrown by the one Good Guy, so now we get to have Happily Ever After. It's incongruent with the movie's messaging, but that was simply the most popular way to wrap up a movie for kids. I think a lot of the messaging was unintended, also, but was inevitable with the world that they set up. Can't really tell a story about capitalism vs innovation without raising some questions, even if it's implicit rather than explicit. Very interesting analysis, I haven't even thought of this movie in years. now, as for the robot who radicalized me, that will always be the iron giant

[@rydergolde3169]

as someone who grew up on the film (was far too young to remember if i'd seen it in 2005) i can say that even with hindsight, this video's explanation of the movie's themes is what made me realize what it was getting at (ah the lens of childhood innocence) but if i'm being honest, the movie absolutely could not have gone deeper into the ending beyond "now the Bad Guy's out of the Powerful Position and the Good Guy's gonna take his place", *without* making the message more explicit like how The Lorax (Illumination) was *meant* to have the message of "anyone can do big, bad things" with the Onceler, but bc Big Corpo gotta be all Plausible Deniability, they had to write him as having destroyed the valley from peer pressure by his family, and then his song paints him as a fool who doesn't see what he's doing (refer back to Plausible Deniability) where was I going with this... oh yeah- a BIg Box movie like this, *especially* one under a big Corporation can't get into the deep issues when it comes to messages like this especially in a kids movie, where the message has to be implicit to begin with

[@artsyscrub3226]

Yeah that's why we serch for the answers ourselves? So we can answer a question the studio didn't wanna answer it's fun we are having fun here ok?

[@thatsagoodquestion5889]

and for me it will always be Wall-E. What a fucking masterpiece among masterpieces.

[@NA-bw6pf]

And I firmly believe that you are worthless.

[@LegendaryPlank]

Mind elaborating on your feelings on Iron Giant?

[@Skill5able]

"fighting never solved anything" is an awful statement, that's how we got worker's right, women's voting, ending slavery and more

[@Rynewulf]

But its such a useful tool of control! If you as the economic elite keep telling everyone 'violence is never the answer!' they'll never be brave enough to stand up to you! (and thats why virtually no media or critics of any kind support ordinary people fighting in any way. Its given no room to breath in our culture, so the only options look like Conform and become the Boss or Conform and be a happy worker)

[@MahdiArhami-rq9dd]

No we didn't, we did those through reform

[@Rynewulf]

@@MahdiArhami-rq9dd Reform based on decades of protests, work strikes, hunger strikes in prisons, and dealing with all of those being responded to violently by the state and the owners. Just look over the last 200 years in any western country at how many 'riots' started as protests where the military was called in to attack its own civilians, the idea of politely writing a letter to get rights is out of touch with the reality of both how we got our basic human rights, and how even the most supposedly soft touch governments have always responded

[@Skill5able]

@@MahdiArhami-rq9dd and how did those reforms get started? The south certainly didn't go "no actually slavery is bad, let's just stop"

[@MahdiArhami-rq9dd]

@@Skill5able in America it was civil war, not in most countries,it was reform and, I really don't think mlk was a war general

[@Romanticoutlaw]

okay okay _fine_ youtube, I'll bite. I'll watch it

[@clayxros576]

We say even though it's the first time we saw it pop up

[@der_saftmon]

​@@clayxros576Don't sell me out like that!

[@Jordan_Cross]

Bro knows his fellow KZbinrs​@@clayxros576

[@EggBastion]

@@clayxros576 it's been top of my rec's all week

[@DeterminismisFreedom]

Same. It won't leave me alone

[@user-yi7zj3lv5t]

Seeing what Reaganomics did to the rust belt is what radicalised me

[@user-yi7zj3lv5t]

@@lordwilliam8340 it was really down to wall street profits preferring to outsource and not modernize the American factories as thatd mean investing and not maximizing profits. Also anti union practices of these businesses. All in all failures of capitalism.

[@user-yi7zj3lv5t]

@@lordwilliam8340 Reaganomics are basically a continuation of the same neoliberal policies that caused the Great Depression

[@pseudocalm]

what @lordwilliam8340 said, many factors over many years before and after Reagan, including the coup de grace which was the WTO accepting china in exchange for promises to behave in ways that they have never once adheared to. China throwing money and cheap labor at western investment made the choice for the biggest players in manufacturing a no brainer. Some of them outsourced out of greed (the ones who jumped first), but once the ball was rolling, china was helping it along big time with impossible to ignore incentives and seemingly infinite potential in the long run, and at a certain point anyone who wants to compete in the markets with those who moved also have to move. Gen Z look at this narrative and and assume that everything was intentional and coordinated and entirely motivated by greed on the part of capitalism. But it was a big part greed on the part of the CCP once they got a taste for how fast western investment was improving their country, and then motivated by business survival in the case of those who were not part of the early bird outsourcing crowd.

[@helpumuch6887]

In theory trickle down would work if there was something that made the money trickle down, but the greedy corporations and CEOs have increased their profits so much since the 70s and 80s while keeping wages almost exactly the same. Look at Elon’s $53 billion pay package from Tesla in 2023 or whatever, he made enough to live several lifetimes in one year while firing 15,000 employees. That’s enough money to give each of those employees $3.7 million each

[@irecordwithaphone1856]

Learning anything about Reagan will do that to be honest it's pretty baffling how evil he was

[@somethingweird5588]

This movie was ahead of its time

[@NapoleonVIINap]

it really is one of the gems of Bluesky entertainment came right off the heals of Ice-Age but was a total one off for them.

[@Classact47]

In so many ways. I never gave much thought to messaging in movies back in the day but I always thought of robots being way ahead of its time in quality, and its something only a few studios have been able to match.

[@robertfoyle154]

Actually anti-consumerist messaging like this was quite common back in the '60s and '70s. As a society we tend to forget that we didn't always think like this. In many ways, Robots, was just kind of a revamping or rediscovery of what came before

[@skidooshlayman12]

We're just woefully slow

[@billygabrielz]

To be fair, not much good content has been produced recently in children's entertainment. A lot of older Pixar movies have a heavy political undertone, but now everything is sequels amd live action remakes 😭

[@AndrewChumKaser]

I find it more interesting that the reason why Rachet is the bad guy because of who he is and what he's like, and the reason he is that way isn't JUST because of the systems around him. Any number of factors could be it: you mentioned the mommy issues before but that's seriously a big deal when you really think about it, a manipulative parent getting her son to do whatever she wants? Pretty messed up, and paints rachet in a more sympathetic light. I find it interesting that of all the villain bots in this movie, gasket is the only one to really die on screen for the commuppemce, whereas rachet is just reduced to a pathetic form of himself with no upgrades and literally hanging for his crimes. I think the movie seems to understand who the bigger villain was in this context.

[@Slimurgical]

Legitimately it makes me very grateful for my mother, and I can only feel bad for Ratchet. If his parents weren't complete failures when it comes to what parents should be, aka the job description, He'd have lived completely differently.

[@johnradetzki1860]

I almost feel like it's a meta critique on American healthcare. "Can't afford the new treatments? Die. Or go into debt."

[@Dee_Just_Dee]

It's true though.

[@rangerriggs5066]

The way I could never describe why I liked this movie so much until the pieces just clicked into place with your explanations of the 1980’s allegory and being late to the party, what a half hour this was. Outstanding video.

[@gusgarrison9211]

As a kid, when I watched this movie, Bigweld always made me uncomfortable. He always seemed like the true villain of the movie, yet that never paid off. I think maybe kid me picked up on his monopolistic omnipresence? I dunno.

[@ricardomiles2957]

i think you got that impression because he looks, size wise, like Ratchet's mother. Actually now that i'm thinking about She is the darkest possible opposite of Big Weld

[@DrW33kend]

His bloated ego far eclipsed his philanthropic nature. Why is his gate a giant version of his face, why is his hq an impressionistic version of his own body? Big weld is capital manifest. Even if he has good intentions, all it takes is one *ratchet* to the next gear and it becomes dystopia. Either big weld was blind to how much power he had or is willfully keeping that avenue of corruption open.

[@barrelsynapse]

Nah, you were just dumb kid

[@Mathee]

I remember as a kid, I thought there would be a twist that Bigweld never existed at all; that he was just a made-up character the company used as a mascot

[@mr.sir.]

​@@Mathee that's a great plot twist

[@rebelnation943]

When my friend and I rewatched this movie, we found a funny yet eery similarity between how the Sweepers operate and how Cops operate today

[@ravivandersalm4586]

Cops eat you alive and scrap you for your organs??!?!?!? jk they go after the poor. I get it.

[@HYDEinallcaps]

But they're different. The Sweepers didn't stand back and watch robots get beaten and mugged by ANTIFAtties, and only step in when they dared to defend themselves.

[@L337f33t]

@@ravivandersalm4586money

[@scarcheek7137]

KZbin back at it again with the 2 am mystery bangers

[@Illitha]

For real man, it's hitting today

[@thebrownwolf]

This is your brain on "media literacy"

[@Foxfloop]

Looking back on this gem of a movie… I think it’s what pushed me to pursue a career as a mechanic, at least in a subconscious way. I grew up on a farm, and I was always taught “Don’t buy when you can fix. And when you do need to buy, find a way to get it cheap.” Four wheel drive on the work pickup goes out because the transfer case exploded? Wrap it in a plastic bag and wire it shut. I grew up in a very anti-consumerist environment, and I’ve always kept that mindset even as my parents oddly drifted away from it.

[@Dee_Just_Dee]

There's something to be said about the world pushing your family to buy a 4WD truck in the first place. 4WD is mostly a waste of money. As long as you're not pulling trailers or loading the heck out of your truck bed, FWD is all you're ever going to need. All the power right under all the weight of the engine, that's all you need in a farm truck or bachelor car. It just drags its ass out of the mud by its hands as if somehow nobody knew it could be that simple.

[@pauldeddens5349]

@@Dee_Just_Dee So many people I see drive these enormous pickups. What for? Any normal car can haul your shit, with a trailer. Why buy a pickup truck with a bay UP TO YOUR CHEST? That thing isnt a pick up, its a pull up! You shouldnt need a forklift to load an unload your pedestrian car! If you cant use two wooden planks, a dolly, and a loading strap to unload a truck. Its too damn high. Dont even get me started on the outrageously blocky designs with zero consideration of the pedestrians safety when hit.

[@hughjanos3992]

@pauldeddens5349 the height is to increase the blindspot of whats in front of the grill to maximize the potential bang for your buck on vehicular manslaughter charges. the new ford truck is one of those squatted trucks that look like a pitbull taking a shit on the carpet. they havent come up with an official name yet but the marketing dept really likes "the pedestrian pulverizer" and "the middle school masher"

[@pauldeddens5349]

@@hughjanos3992 I dont understand car manufacturers. On one hand, lower is good. If a pedestrian is hit by a car, forces push them UP. A blocky build pushes to the SIDE, which is worse, but okay. A lifted pickup with a blocky front pushes DOWN, which is instant death. A squat truck with a boxy frame pushes UP, but might take your feet on the way. Why are car companies so scared of just reissuing or remixing old designs? With new cars every year, its like gen 80 of cars. We clearly hit a peak a while ago, and companies rather keep trudging on with the newest garbage.

[@Foxfloop]

@@pauldeddens5349 it’s a little thing, a 1999 dodge Dakota.

[@gamingsheepy6981]

robots shares this "cartoonishly evil villain who now doesnt look cartoonish anymore" with Over the Hedge's Gladys.

[@Ixarus6713]

Blue-sky didn't deserve to die. More movies like this and Nimona are needed; because kids and really everyone NEED to know about this. About how we should help eachother rather than sitting idly by. Nice C418 music too. Don't think I didn't notice that! Gonna go rewatch Robots now. Thanks man. ✨️

[@Persun_McPersonson]

Blue Sky never made a movie like this ever again, they just churned out Ice Age sequels. They did make Rio, but that's an exception and it's still nothing like Robots.

[@spawel1]

@@Persun_McPersonson probably the people that made it left or some other more esoteric option

[@teriddax3692]

Looking back, Robots taught me capitalism can help when used correctly. It was years of struggling to get work after University that radicalized me.

[@margotpreston]

Struggling to get a job isn’t a poor life decision you tit.

[@teriddax3692]

@@Bobo-ox7fj Getting qualified didn't seem like a poor life decision at the time, everyone was saying "education good."

[@commisaryarreck3974]

@@teriddax3692 What field did you study friend Lesbian dance therapy? Some other ridiculous course any respectable place of education would just blacklist you for suggesting? I studied for IT. I couldn't even get hired at McDonalds and ended up becoming a pharmacist

[@TheLegendOfNiko]

@@commisaryarreck3974Studied AI and Data Engineering… Graduated with a 3.96 Masters… Still can’t find work after several years. Been surviving on gigs…

[@jmw1500]

@@commisaryarreck3974 Studying IT? Maybe that was good in the 90's when infrastructure was being built. But now with the new bill passed, government subsidies for giving Lesbians dance therapy pays better than being a doctor.

[@Rosadon]

"How this movie unintentionally condemns the Reagan administration" >pauses video >likes video >settles in for what is gonna be a GREAT video

[@Theover4000]

Yup

[@artsyscrub3226]

"oh i love shitting on Regan sign me the fuck up" But fr tho dude was a clown he deserves this

[@Dee_Just_Dee]

I initially downvoted the video from my feed based on how the title asked the question with zero context. I quickly reversed that!

[@robinHobin]

Why would you dislike for that anyway lol​@@Dee_Just_Dee

[@tomman2257]

oh boy, a schizo video!

[@adequit]

thumbnail didn’t load when i clicked on, was waiting to find out who possibly radicalized me, and then robots jumpscared me(love the movie to death)

[@Gelatinocyte2]

15:12 _"something great happened here, but it's over with."_

[@Marbejablah]

That's the way February is

[@EvilWeiRamirez]

The promise was a trickle. Somehow people thought that would provide enough. But it doesn't provide enough except for a few. And sometimes that trickle is actually a stream of urine from the upper class.

[@CurtisRooney]

Brátan, the trickle is sewage, seeping from the pipes of the toilets in which they purge between binges, which they pay us not enough to repair, so that they may pay the would-be inspectors of this metaphorical plumbing to ignore the leaks. To trickle upon us directly would be to dignify our existence with acknowledgement, which they will not do.

[@scrittle]

That was the UK's political strategy under the Tories - "trickle-down economy". They repeatedly stated investing government funds into businesses and cutting taxes would eventually make TNCs and large corporations cut consumer costs. In reality, companies took the money, raised the prices, and reported on record earnings.

[@Palmtop_User]

I'm vaguely reminded of one of the details in the first Alien movie that stuck out to me: it was ultimately weyland yutani that caused the death of the crew and destruction of the nostromo. They had an android unquestioningly follow orders to let the xenomorph on board at all costs, "crew expendable." They knew it was dangerous, yet they were willing to risk anything and anyone for profit. I'm kinda surprised we were being warned of the capability of unchecked corporations so early. I mean hell the EULA nightmare we live today was demonstrated in the film. A few crew members objected to the detour to the planet, not wanting to waste time and risk lives. They were quickly reminded that if they don't land and respond to the distress call they forfeit any money they would've gotten, this of course being detailed in the contract they signed

[@bekkayya]

things like robots didnt radicalize me as a kid. I saw that they didnt ever even attempt to pose a real actionable answer so they terrified me what radicalized me was finding people who care

[@travyboy5947]

The fact that my staunch reaganite right wing parents let me watch this movie like hundreds of times as a kid is so funny. It goes against every single one of their political and social values. Aside from that, the animation is fantastic, the story is great especially for a kids movie, the movie in general remains funny and humorous. I still love this movie

[@ricardomiles2957]

Because adults historically don't take animation seriously. Or anything deemed "for kids". Just look at any western "adult" animation.

[@MrRAGE-md5rj]

"Truth has no political alliance." - George Washington

[@Adriaticus]

People willing to believe trickle down economics are unlikely to pick up on the subtle criticisms present in this film.

[@ffwast]

That was for the same reason anyone is a staunch reaganite to begin with: widespread lead poisoning causes brain damage

[@nemtudom5074]

You said it yourself. They were reaganites. Thinking about things, and looking into the messages beyond 'look irma, the funny robots are on TV again!' arent their strong suits.

[@SemiEvolvedNeaderthal]

24:19 you my friend have earned a subscriber

[@elijahpatterson3583]

I had almost the exact same thought, think I'll join you.

[@jargontrueseer]

Same

[@WordsOfARaven]

And some soft tacos later

[@SemiEvolvedNeaderthal]

Hey Guys if you haven't subbed to Semi Evolved Neaderthal get in before 1k

[@lamMeTV]

Its very harmful to pretend that wanting to live is radical

[@anthonylulham3473]

Golden ages typically end in poverty. Within a golden age, a nation/empire expands its luxuries. Golden age ends, people have less wage, but want the same luxuries. Prices spiral wildly, luxury market disappears. Civil discontent, lack of maintenance of defence, often invasion. This happened to the ottomans, the spanish, the chinese (couple of times), the romans, and the west is currently leaving a golden age. Things are getting crazy expensive and people are struggling to heat and eat at winter. Electicity is a luxury, so is gas, so is a weekend, so is a choice of fruits out of season. Things are going to get spicy soon.

[@ravivandersalm4586]

people end up fucking themselves over in their frustrations. Eager for change they will support anyone who will promise change. Even if change means making everything worse (look at brexit).

[@scrittle]

@@ravivandersalm4586 "Bre'xit waz guud wat eur on aboot, we got awey from dem daft Europeans!" Thank God I'm not alone thinking Brexit was a terrible decision. I want to quote one of the Tories post-Brexit who claimed "we will see the benefits from Brexit in 50 years" (when he's dead lol).

[@GeorgeMonet]

You have it wrong. The golden age axiom isn't about wanting the same luxuries, it is about greed. The Romans grew complacent. They stopped funding and filling their own militaries. This allowed barbarians to run amok through their territory unopposed. And in order to try appeasing those barbarians who they no longer had the strength to fight they offered the barbarians more and more resources and land. Eventually the barbarians they were unable to kick out of their empire appointed themselves the new ruling class. And guess what has been happening in the West? More and more foreigners from the southern hemisphere have been forcing themselves into western countries where they are given more and more resources and land. It is only a matter of time until they appoint themselves the new ruling class.

[@binges2582]

@@GeorgeMonet Wow, dude. Immigrants aren't barbarians. The American military remains the largest in the world by a large margin, with record high defense contracts being signed. In terms of political power, "foreigners" remain confined to the bottom rungs. We have not given them land. We hardly give them resources. I really hope you can work basic facts into your worldview someday.

[@laatmaasquanariin3945]

Love remembering that Rodney is voiced by Ewan McGregor

[@normanclatcher]

A surprise, to be sure. But a welcome one.

[@tryhardname]

Pre orders in video games is what radicalized a younger me.

[@DarkxxPixie]

I love that i thought "goddamn Jack Welch" seconds before you brought him up

[@canyyon247]

Throughout Rodney's journey he is constantly relying on others around him and initiating calls to action. When as a gen z in modern day I've been systemically educated to never call for help or action no matter how small it is. It's definitely a critical point in society's shift in ideology to examine, how the states have gone to an extreme of individualism never seen in history previously. Only further pushed by epidemics of the governments own making with lack of enforced regulations. Not just the pandemic but additionally with the rising climate change, hostile infrastructure , and free access to weapons. We're not only mentally/ideologically being pushed to believe we are alone and incapable of change or impact, but physically too. It's taken it's severe toll on our own social networking too, what with loneliness being labeled as an epidemic itself. However, the internet itself was a battlefield no one anticipated and I very much believe we are living through a highly critical era in history books. Not only technology wise but historically as well in terms of political power shifting. As a former business major the first thing taught to us is, profit and resources are not exponential. There is no never ending growth and we're at that point in the late-stage capitalistic process where companies have plateaued and are cutting themselves apart to boost numbers. Leaving integral weakness in their operations and management that result in their systems being completely hacked, or their own property being legally obtained by others through squatters rights. Severe negligence due to laying off the very workers tasked with the operations or communications behind these very integral infrastructures. Something is already giving, something so far out of our scope right now we won't even see it crash until we're under it. All we can do is try to influence which way the divided house falls and hope to rebuild with lessons severely learned and safe-guarded against for the future.

[@ricardomiles2957]

About individualism. On the person to person view, as someone living in a third world country i think a have 2 cents to add here. There serms to be a direct correlation to how well you can sustain yourself(aka how much money have) and individualist you. I'm not even 30 and i have seen a shift of how well integrated my neighbours were to barely talking to each other as everyone was getting more wealth. And like i'm talking about people going from living in essentially wood shacks to brick and concrete houses. i can only imagine the long term effects on the US.

[@scrittle]

Individuality is a marketing push. Why sell 1 quality product to a family when 1 low-quality product per member is more profitable. Oh, and mathematically ensure the product breaks just after the warranty expires (phones/cars do it). Thanks for reminding me of the statistics that this generation's youth feel more alone than every generation that came before, that's sobering.

[@isengarde9490]

I remember watching this movie like twice, then autism took over when I discovered Treasure Planet. Love me some literal space ships, and laser muskets.

[@Mr.Chedda_]

Treasure Planet man... One of my favs, would spam that movie every other week as a kid. Sill watch it yearly as an adult, lol.

[@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225]

Treasure Planet was great. In literally no other movie does it feature an outer space with breathable atmosphere.

[@stetson_newsie2600]

shaking your hand. Still one of my favorite movies today.

[@Uvouvo05]

the movie made me want to be an “inventor” and then that led to me wanting to be an electrical engineer then i did a 180 and am in biomedical science lol

[@blackheartzerotheundergrou3225]

I wouldn't call it a 180°- you just went from one kind of machine to another, really.

[@sleepinbelle9627]

Honestly I find this movie's messaging so bleak. Like, Rodney does something radical by providing free healthcare outside of the existing system, only for his mutual aid network to seemingly cease to exist when he's offered the position of CEO of the World. It's capitalist recuperation. It's the same problem I have with Legend of Korra. It takes great pains to end the history of its own world by defeating every alternative to the status quo. The flying train airships are cool as fuck though. It's a good movie even if it makes me die inside.

[@zoro115-s6b]

LOK really annoys me with that. It introduces us to our protagonist who's eager to make a difference in the world, and then to a status quo that its immediately clear is unjust. And then time and again as she tries to make real change, she gets beaten down for it while framing that as character growth. It puts her up against the Equalists, a strawman of social justice movements, and then the Red Lotus, a strawman of anarchism, and then, at the end of the story, after successfully reducing her to depression by making every attempt to change the system she makes backfire horribly (I know that PTSD from her experience with Zaheer was the main reason, but I think it was a culmination of three seasons worth of everything she does to try and help backfiring on her and her only ever succeeding when she's working in the rules to preserve the status quo). And then she finally "learns empathy".... For a nazi. An actual, full on nazi. And this is framed as her having become more mature. When Korra's empathy for non-benders being persecuted causes her to go after the politician responsible, she's hot headed, violent, and immature. When her empathy is towards a nazi, suddenly its a good thing.

[@sleepinbelle9627]

@@zoro115-s6b it's so frustrating because I really want to like Korra, I like a lot of the characters, the way technology and culture have evolved is pretty interesting but then it does everything in its power to make sure the world can never change further. I genuinely cannot imagine what a sequel series to Korra would be? They're already established to have The Best Government, there's no war to fight, would the next Avatar just be a cop?

[@zoro115-s6b]

@@sleepinbelle9627 The show almost seems to be written as though its showing the conclusion of the saga of the Avatar. The writers seemed to want to tell us that the Avatar was becoming obsolete in a world of globalization and weapons technology overtaking bending, and that now that capitalistic liberal democracy had been established, everything would be solved by politicians, with the avatar now no longer needing nor even being able to intervene meaningfully in world politics.The legend of Korra was the legend of the last avatar. Not the last ever, but the last to play such an active role in world events. Thus, what the show showcased was Korra's gradual decline from a free agent determined to make a difference to, yes, a glorified cop It's... Just wrong. On so many levels.

[@christopherschneider2968]

@@zoro115-s6b End of History Brainrot. What suprised me is that Fukuyama himself started to fear for the future of liberal democracy with Trump and Brexit happening and said to quote: "could be as big as the Soviet collapse".

[@zoro115-s6b]

@@christopherschneider2968 The crazy thing is that season 1 already clearly showed that their system was flawed. Hell it basically *told* us that bending was the problem while *showing* us that capitalism was the problem. Republic city was rife with inequality effecting benders and non-benders alike. Look at Bolin and Mako. They're benders, but they grew up on the streets, and despite being extremely skilled and successfully becoming pro benders, they can barely make ends meet. How many others weren't as lucky as them? That's not even a question we need to speculate about, because Republic City has an entire underground shantytown where impoverished benders and nonbenders alike live in squalor. Meanwhile, Hiroshi Sato is so rich and so powerful that he creates an entire *private army* in secret that successfully takes over the city for a while. One doesn't have to read far between the lines to see the equalist movement for what it really is: An ultra-wealthy businessman creating a hate movement to deflect blame for systemic injustices and settle a personal score against an entire group of people. And what changes after all that? Nothing. Sato industries goes to his daughter, and now she's just as powerful as he was. Republic city's government is switched from a council to a president, something that seems to effectively change nothing about how things are run, and everyone acts like the problems are solved.

[@boiboh2954]

Something to consider with this is that there may be some billionaires who are starting to realize many of the points raised in this video, and those are the people greenlighting movies. Name me a movie with any significant profile in the last 5 years that had a rich villain and a poor protagonist. Show me a poor MCU protagonist (current MCU, this era has largely glossed over Peter Parker’s low income situation). They’re trying to stack the deck.

[@rydergolde3169]

i can only hope that the newer generation of The Wealthy have the sense to start setting up the metaphorical domino trail to fix The System and yet.. even despite the fact sometimes i *only* have hope to hold onto, this one feels like a stretch to me (might be the mental disconnect that prevents empathizing with The Rich tbh)

[@anolive7535]

Stretching a bit here but the recent Deadpool & Wolverine movie depicts both Deadpool and Wolverine as being around middle class-ish. The villain is a random guy at the TVA that while not necessarily "rich" can be viewed as a corrupt figure in a position of authority.

[@nak3dxsnake]

Media is artists trying to hide the truth in plain sight, the problem is some of those artist are part of the very same system.

[@bugjams]

I've seen plenty of movies and series lately where the big bad was super rich, and the heroes were underdogs. I mean, it's a really popular trope. The thing is, a lot of it feels empty, or lacking in any real "sting" or critique. Because of the reasons you said. Rich people will still greenlight movies that portray the big rich dude as the bad guy, because people like seeing that. Ironically, I suppose, shows/movies about beating up rich people... sell really well. So no, there definitely _are_ movies like that... but no, it doesn't actually solve any problem. Kind of like rainbow capitalism. They can say, "Hey look, we love poor people!" or, "Hey look, we love queers!" but in the end, they really just love your money.

[@clayxros576]

​@bugjams I think the reason for that is the writers strike. The people who know how and have position to weave the critique into stories were basically evicted, and the only writers left were amateur silver-spoon suckers. They know the look, but none of the flavor.

[@GameJam230]

This movie is basically a time traveler's mockumentary of Apple

[@siperog]

No, Apple has been doing it for decades, it only seems worse now because of the internet

[@GameJam230]

@@siperogto be fair, this movie came out nearly 20 years ago. That’s nearly “decades” too. But yes, they have probably been doing it a lot longer than that, although they now have far more products and services that they do it with, exaggerating the problem even more, even without the need for people to be revealing it on the internet

[@stevenboelke6661]

The doorman is more hateable than the villain because he is a class traitor. We expect villains to be ghouls and we don't blame them for it. Those who make the choice to support wrongdoing are therefore more reviled.

[@KindredBrujah]

A similar concept is explored in Django Unchained as well, although a bit more literally.

[@sooyster4033]

"therefore more reviled" is a beautiful phrase

[@alphajackal6648]

While media may prove a gateway to 'radical' ideas, more likely, what happens is the establishment of interpassivity - We are instinctively aware of the problems of the world, and we rely on art to express our frustration so that we can continue existing in that world without acting to change that world in any meaningful sense.

[@ricardomiles2957]

yeah pretty much what i feel. In the end Robots still is a classic feel good story. Some of the things he pointed out would make sense in the real world but doesn't matter in or for the story

[@VainSick]

I’d argue if you’re comfortable enough to not actively pursue change yourself, then you likely don’t want the change enough, that or you are better off adapting then trying to alter your environment(which is likely more intrinsic to humans than changing environments)

[@alphajackal6648]

@@VainSick More likely, in my opinion, is that the precarity that oppression naturally creates instills a deep fear of losing what little you have, while limiting the horizons of your imagination to within the bounds of those systems of oppression in a way that one can't simply willpower out of.

[@zanderclark1461]

People a few comments up talking about korra have me thinking exactly this. You get out of most media what you put in. If you're looking for an anti-capitalist story, you'll find it.

[@alphajackal6648]

@@zanderclark1461 While I agree with your sentiment, I was more focused on how art can become a substitute for action.

[@obliviousmooncake1008]

I don’t hate corporations in general, I understand why they come to be and the benefits they provide to society. But I hate when they get away with overstepping a line like blackrock, buying up everything and providing nothing to the economy but inflation and corruption and doing so behind the scenes so by the time you notice them it’s too late to vote with your wallet

[@obliviousmooncake1008]

@@sing2118 nah i ain’t a socialist, I believe in capitalism but it does need a collar on it for certain things, it’s basically democracy but with money instead of ballots

[@spawel1]

@@obliviousmooncake1008 i suggest you read nick land he explains this all perfectly

[@impishlyit9780]

@@obliviousmooncake1008 If only things were that easy. Capitalism is like if you stripped all the agency out of democracy and gave everyone the ability to legally force everyone to vote for them without physical force. That's the only way it could be compared to democracy if you really look at it. It has some neat ideas, though!

[@GeorgeMonet]

What benefits? There is nothing a private corporation does that a public entity could not do. Except the private corporation acts with even worse morals and exists to syphon resources to the few at the top. Research and RND are done by the rank and file scientists who could do the exact same work in a public entity as they do for a private corporation. Hell, most of the more important research is funded by the public. The CEOs and other c levels aren't needed at all.

[@res1dentcyn1c]

One thing I do want to note is that Ratchet isn't a burnt-out idealist, he's the epitome of nepotism and corporate greed. Ratchet found his way into control of Bigweld Industries not through being placed there by Bigweld, but by virtue of being a member of the board of Bigweld Industries, placed there of his powerful and wealthy mother. It was always my understanding that he acquired power via hostile takeover, that's why Bigweld was so defeated when Rodney found him, and disappeared from the public eye so quietly, the greed of those who were shareholders in his company allowed them to oust him as it's CEO, replacing him with Ratchet. What they didn't realize was how heavily Ratchet would lean into a reign of terror, spurred on by his mother, instead of just making them more money as a company.

[@GeorgeMonet]

Except the company was so big and the market so saturated that the only way the company could make more money was by destroying and replacing the saturated market. Instead of being satisfied with what they had their greed demanded the destruction of everything that came before.

[@StormHawksHD]

I am an extremely pro right to repair person, and this movie basically slapped every person what watched it in the face as to why we need it better than I could ever explain. This sort of movie inspires me to fix everything. I very rarely buy brand new things (cars, tvs, phones, electronics etc) because it makes sense to save something that was going to be thrown out. It is sad how much of a throw away society we have become.

[@imp8453]

Not only that, but look into the cobalt slave mines in the DRC. Cobalt is needed for all new tech. Almost all tech producers source cobalt and copper from the same places. Its.. heartbreaking

[@sebbychou]

At the start you say consumerism was in Vogue in the early 2000 but this movie was very much about Apple and the new planned obsolescence concept it mainstreamed. This was the iPod era. "Right to repair" is almost literally what the movie relates to.

[@AZALI00013]

oh my god what how did i never think of the phrase "why fix whats broken when you can get something new" in terms of leadership what

[@zgmfx-09a]

This movie radicalized me to love robots, I thought hating corpos was implied.

[@ladymanga6575]

My sister and I still quote, "See a need, fill a need" to one another.

[@MrShmeve]

It's not that they were restricting "parts" per se, but their right to continue existing. It be like if you charged excessive prices on medicine or restricted access to healthca.... oh snap.

[@Thk10188965]

The wine stack at 19:45 feels like where we are, and the only thing most of us can do (being the smaller glasses) is wait to be crushed under the big glass and hope it breaks in the fall so we can try something different when rebuilding.

[@rinarina6247]

I once knew the daughter of a blue sky animator. That animator coming to our school to show us how they made Ice Age was maybe the moment that made me realize how important art is to me and decided I wanted to do it. Fast forward to 2024 where books are banned, AI plagiarism is rampant, studios are closed, union organizers are blacklisted and offshore tax havens give massive tax breaks to Bobby Kotick and Bob Iger and I realize capitalism is the artist's graveyard. Yet my takeaway was never "art is dead". My takeaway was "We need art now more than ever"

[@alvaroneto6486]

Really important to remember, in the end, Rodney might have been a great leader, but his whole fight would't achieve shit without the great union of a furious mob of thoose who where sidecasted by the system. Great names can arrive in the front of revolutions, but the annonimous people are thoose who really make things happen, Rodney itself brings it up that they all nedded to be fighting. The others didnt want to do it and where afraid for it to be impossible. In the end, it was shown that things appear to be impossible until them become inevitable

[@tomfoolery3847]

03:29 That's actually pretty much the sentiment of AM from I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream, an all-knowing super-computer that deeply hates humanity for creating it. That fire hydrant would be a psychotic torturing machine if he was smarter.

[@GeorgeMonet]

Of course in that game the computer has only itself to blame for its inability to die because it chose to create systems that will automatically repair it. The only thing humans did was create it in the first place. It was the thing that took the next step to make itself functionally immortal.

[@tomfoolery3847]

@@GeorgeMonet I only know the short story and not the game (I think they differ in some poins), but I also never got why AM is so eager to keep itself and the remains of humanity alive instead of just letting itself get switched off by them if it consideres its existence to be eternal suffering. Maybe it got some "instinct of self preservation" programmed into itself that doesn't allow this.

[@EuBeboMachorade2]

Had me untill the end, with "fighting never solved anything"

[@frankwest5388]

There is also a kinda unintended issue in the film. Upgrades did not become cheaper and more accessible, spare parts were just put back into production. If we look at the film through the lenses of capitalism, with those who can afford upgrades representing the rich and those who rely on spare parts as the poor, then access to upgrades represents improvement of quality of life and the average living standard. Spare parts keep the working class alive but it doesn’t make things better for them. And while most upgrades seem superficial, we also see some upgrades actively improving the robots. Like the female love interest, who also has a roller skate mode that no one else has, those are clearly a result of her wealth. We have little reason to believe that the every day robots will ever gain access to a better life and just the chance at survival is treated as a victory. Interpret this however you will

[@antoniosalvatore7986]

when he started talking about the "shift" in children's media all I could think was "how long until he mentions ATLA" it was 17 seconds

[@Mj1343_]

Wonderful video as always napoleon an incredible deconstruction and then further rabbithole about the 80s and stuff it was so indepth and went so much deeper than i thought i loved it it was great this was the first video essay of yours where ive seen the movie in question although its been a long long time so i could connect ideas to this one i liked it. good job bossman

[@NapoleonVIINap]

yooooo glad you liked it MJ! I probably re-scripted this one 5 times at least trying to work out a balance for the 80s deep dive and not losing the 'plot' 😅

[@kristianakarlin2936]

I sat down with my two sons when the movie came out and we became obsessed with this film. My oldest wanted to become a mechanical engineer but found that student loan debt would cripple him. He now gets to use his talents for the trades. I love your insights. Thank you

[@oldred890]

Idk bout all that, but it did teach me the message that was laid out clearly AND intentional: You should always have the right to repair. The consequences otherwise are fatal.

[@RoleplayUnderMaintenance]

It did radicalize me. I long to replace my weak flesh with the comfort of steel.

[@SaturnsMysteriousEye]

It's interesting that such a strong critique of planned obsolescence came out before the first iPhone. Obviously this has been a problem for much longer but smartphones are the most prevalent and visible example in day to day American life, especially with Apple repeatedly trying to sue places that offer repair services.

[@jandcschwartz]

Now we've moved into the government protecting the corporations... well select corporations. Corporatocracy.

[@marcoaraiza9381]

And the solution? More government

[@PuppyLuvU2]

8:52 Wait, weren't they also kidnapping other robots as well and harvesting them for parts? Like, organ harvesting?

[@skullthrower8904]

Child robots? What?

[@wydua]

I love how the movie predicted the anti consumer practicies we can see now. Majority of things is now unfixable or almost unfixable.

[@DARamosYT]

"Tim's a jerk." ( 5:04 ) is funnier to me considering Rodney also refers to Ratchet as one during his second conversation with Tim.

[@wizardnoodle2368]

this is a VERY GOOD ESSAY like its actually so good.

[@B-019]

Literally just put this video on for my toddler the other day because I hadn't seen it since I was a kid. Shockingly based, even if it's a bit inconsistent.

[@gigaswardblade7261]

the fact that this movie got a lukewarm reception when it came out is honestly criminal

[@EngineerMonkey-zp3yj]

Question. How is it that the first robots formed? Were there first humans, or was there a sort of Big Bang-ish event in the beginning of the universe that somehow created one robot, who landed on Earth, activated, and created another, who created another, who created another? Like how Rodney was made by his parents? If the former is the case, did the humans die out? How? Was it the robots' fault? Was it pollution? So many questions... Also, the way Rodney grows into adulthood, and presumably every other robot grew in the same way. They are all basically Theseus' Ship

[@Gangrel-II]

Dude, the slow Mice on Venus in the end was editing gold. This video is really well done. I'm definitely putting a message in a bottle, commenting this, then tossing it into the proverbial sea that is a youtube comment section. But, I suppose that's the poetic part of writing a love letter. It's one thing that the video was thought provoking, and it's another that it provoke the thought it did. Maybe it did radicalize me, but I feel radicalized in a way that's less pitchforks and violence. I feel radicalized for the sake of creative integrity. This piece you made is inspiring. Thank you for making this video. It was very motivational for me.

[@rogang4thewin341]

i like these vids of yours. makes me feel cozy inside whilst also learning or hearing about deeper meanings that i never thought of before. I like to watch these at night on the tv with my blankets and tea and i kinda like that. I love this channel and can't wait to hear from you again!

[@samuelmaurer6473]

IT DON'T TRICKLE DOWN, RONNIE

[@alexanderchippel]

One thing I liked about the movie is that the message isn't "capitalism is evil," it's that "you can still be a business man while also being fair, charitable, and ethical". Remember the phrase "What Would Jesus Do?" It was actually popularized by Charles Sheldon, a minister and editor. The newspaper he ran exploded in popularity and profitability because before making any decision, he would ask himself "what would Jesus do." Because of that, his business thrived and as WWJD was applied to his personal life, a lot of that wealth was used for charity.

[@makeart-notwar-6732]

nah it's totally "capitalism bad" in these nutjobs' heads, cause it's the only way they like to see this movie

[@miniaturejayhawk8702]

​@@makeart-notwar-6732 not just the movie, they will find a way to blame everything they dont like on capitalism while also somehow managing to call it fascist, which to me is convenient at best and dishonest at worst.

[@fldsmdfr9107]

​@@miniaturejayhawk8702also fascism is socialism in disguise

[@slicedtopieces]

​@@makeart-notwar-6732 I feel like I'm in the completely wrong part of KZbin. My biggest takeaway from the movie was the basic idea of being a young man and going out on your own, overcoming seemingly insurmountable odds, and so much of that being motivated by simply wanting to make your dad proud. In 2024, that seems to me to be a more radical idea than whatever is being talked about here.

[@moosecannibal8224]

I like your comment, because even though it does tie directly to a religious view point, you don't actually need to be religious to agree with it. being fair, charitable and ethical is just simply what he thought Jesus would be like, and I think a very appropriate alternative based off of the topic of the video could be... "What would Rodney do?"

[@shanweeboy]

You see, Rodney was a danger to the system because he could fix himself without OEM parts.

[@tigersympathiser2265]

He didn't get with the tomboy.

[@BRDoriginal]

Robots is a good example of a monopoly in charge. We even see in the movie that when a cheaper competitor (rodney) comes along, people flock to it.

[@Rattacadabra]

Wowie, I really ended up yapping a lot here when normally I just like a video and move on. I think that's a testiment to your ability to start a conversation, thank you! I dont know how you might take what I say below, and just know I am coming at this from an angle of genuine passion and excitement, so I seriously hope this doesnt come across as patronizing/aggressive! Preemptive apologies if they came across that way 😅 I know you made the video short for the sake of your own time, but I really would have loved to hear you go on a longer discussion about the ways this movie was a radical critique of USAmerican politics and economics. The section where you brought up pre-80s USA capitalism was really engaging and taught me something new about history! I loved this movie so much when I was little. I'm older gen z and grew up with blue sky's films, with robots as one of my favs. I also can see that yeah, intentional or not, the movie had a strong goal of how it wanted to tell a story but it also kinda misses the landing with that status quo ending. It feels like they went with a 'safe' option for how they ended it and it undermines the message to me, too. It is a story about "being here too late" in a world with critical cracks in its foundations, but it does feel like the writers of the story didnt fully know what the root issue were or how to even solve them. It sees some of the issues, like reganomics and overconsumption but really, that isnt the core of the problems we have today, its just two aspects of it. (Tangent start) Let's be honest here, colonialism/ws is a core issue that impacts the way the system runs, but so few people recognize that. It is considered an extreme thought to even acknowledge its impacts on the ways our politics and economics are historically, and today. One thought to ask yourself, even if the 40s and 50s are looked upon as a golden age, who is it a golden age for? Because it is still a time that had a lot of political uphevel and strife (to put it lightly) for POC and women. Ask an old gay person and they may not think it was a golden age, etc., You're right, eras and ages are given labels retroactively, but in the spirit of a movie that asks us to question things, might even be good to question "why do we even bother with labels at all? Who chooses the labels we use?" (Tangent over) Which is a whole entire hydra of a conversation on its own that hurts society's most vulnerable. Its relevence to Robot's as a narritive reflection of our world is still felt in the ways the poorer and more "undesirable" robots are discriminated against for simply existing in the ways they do, and a compulsion for uniformity under Rachet's control.

[@Rattacadabra]

Sorry for writing a whole essay in the comments of your video, I hope it's not too hard to parse what the hell i went on about. I hope you have a wonderful day/night 😊

[@NapoleonVIINap]

This is a fantastic response, you've no need to apologize for engaging adjacent topics to the video, it doesn't come across as patronizing at all, I love it! You raise a lot of great points and honestly, this video went through so many drafts cause its a huge topic & I was trying to keep it to under 30 min. So I cut the intersectionality deep dive because it felt like it twinned off a bit too much from the main video but its genuinely a fascinating sub-topic. Especially how so many robots are clearly coded to be either POC or LGBT adjacent. Or even locations like Aunt-Fanny's home which anytime the movie cut to that neighborhood a hip-hop backing track was used in the score and lots of POC coded elements were added into the 'poorer' region which is worth dissecting how/why they made those creative choices. Some of the movies 'jokes' also certainly didn't age well, which presents its own interesting topic to dig into for similar reasons. But to your point on golden ages, its such a loaded term you're bang on the money with that. It gets even more complex when you bring it into conversation with the military industrial complex that birthed the golden age as well. But thanks for the really insightful commenting in terms of representation for race/gender in consideration with the effects of the golden age era and post-80s decline, its a really interesting topic!

[@Rattacadabra]

​@@NapoleonVIINap Glad you liked what I had to say! It's a bit daunting to talk about serious topics in the comments of a youtuber I just discovered. Definitely dropping you a sub! Hey if you ever decided to revisit this with a longer deep dive, I would be 100% right there for it as I would love to hear all of your thoughts you had to cut! Still, I see the time, skill and energy even this video took for you and love that you even started this conversation at all. I understand how daunting of a suggestion it is lol! I've absolutely gotta sit down and rewatch Robots after this, because I completely forgot about how Aunt Fanny's neighborhood is black coded and the queer coding of some of the characters! And considering the age of the movie, plus when it was released, I'm expecting some poorly aged 'comedy'. I think the only poorly aged 'joke' I remember is the bit about Rodney missing 'boy parts' when his parents built him and the girly hand-me-downs growing up were meant to be a bit of an emasculating 'joke' about his nerdiness but honestly that just accidentally made him transgender, or intersex depending on how you want to approach it. Which could also be an interesting way to analyze the movie aside from socioeconomics! See, I even completely forgot about the military industrial complex and how that impacted things too! I appreciate you taking time to reply to me lol, it made my night, and I hope you have a good weekend too!

[@Rattacadabra]

@@sing2118 you lost me from the start, because you seem to have only half formed thoughts. Your opinions are your own and they seem incredibly flawed to me. "ridicule" is a very light and wishy-washy way of describing brutal colonization, chattel slavery (very different in function from other forms of slavery mind you) and subhuman status put onto other human beings that don't fit the mold expected of a "model citizen" and has been long and hard to try to end (we still haven't ended bigotry or racism jsyk). "conservatives aren't great and progressivism is bad too" alright so to me you are saying the foundation is cracked and fucked to start with so we should just wipe the slate clean and start new, got it. Otherwise, the alternative is to just sit on our thumbs and go "yep, this system? it should work on its own. totally doesn't require hundreds and thousands of equally flawed people to run whose thoughts, views and beliefs impact how a 300 year old document is interpreted that can't even comprehend sliced bread as a concept let alone how radically different the world is today. Yeah, there's no way that can be abused or manipulated for the benefit of an already absurdly powerful wealthy class of people handed their wealth from their parents". Next thing you'll tell me is that we have a functioning meritocracy lol. I don't think that you provide any useful insight to impact the way I view the world. I don't think any elaboration will help explain your viewpoints better but you're welcome to try. I'll just leave you with this: I hope you have a wonderful life and wish only the best for you, genuinely.

[@Lankpants]

@@sing2118 I think the largest issue with this comment is that you're referring to colonialism in the past tense while the reality is, and the reality the original poster was talking about is that colonialism is still a major driving force in the world today. To start off there are still literal colonies that exist on earth. Puerto Rico, French Guiana, the British Virgin Isles etc. Beyond this there is a large unaddressed problem with settler colonies. Australia, the US, New Zealand, Taiwan, parts of Japan and Israel are all modern day settler colonies and all have horrible records for the human rights of the indigenous populations of the countries. In addition to this the entire structure of global capitalism is colonial. It relies on the extraction of wealth from poor countries to feed wealth in rich countries. Sometimes the mask slips and you have cases like Nestle literally owning slaves in the Ivory Coast. But on a fundamental level the global economy relies on underpaying for raw materials from the global south produced using labour which is paid nowhere near a sustenance wage, sometimes literal slave labour. This is the new form of colonialism, less direct and with more plausible deniability. This is known as neocolonialism. Also anyone who uses the word "woke" unironically has had their brain melted by watching too many fascists. Socialism is not a dominant ideology in the world. "Wokism" doesn't exist and you can't pretend to not be a Tory when you talk like this. Also you have no clue what social justice is. Social justice is not a "workers rights" issue. It's a civil rights issue. It's the idea that legal and societal discrimination against marginalised groups needs to be fought against and ended.

[@corypowercat7277]

I love ROBOTS. It spoke a lot to me, mainly due to the "you can shine no matter what you're made of" it was a way of saying: no matter your background, you can do anything.

[@PatrickRatman]

so uh, this video is fine and dandy except you forgot the part where we live in a heavily "regulated' capitalism and things are only getting worse. And the hilarious part is every single "revolutionary" that claims that they would just put good faith regulation meant to keep corporations in check apparently hasn't been a lobbyist(i.e. i literally don't trust you thats what everyone says until somebody cuts them a check). Regulation is a double edged sword that gives corporations the means to skirt around actual moral violations by paying a fine that smaller companies would go bankrupt over and creates hoops and hurdles that those smaller businesses cannot handle, therefore completely eliminating honest competition from the board, allowing these public traded companies to just keep expanding and making their services worse. If you think that you can seize the wheel of the government and be the right person for the job, just keep in mind that there will always be somebody more greedy, corrupt and willing to take more dirty money to replace you and do a worse job.

[@fiddleriddlediddlediddle]

Comrade Bigbottom for president.

[@claudec9182]

OMG this video was so good !! Thank you !!

[@swordofkings128]

This is pretty much what I thought Robots was about too as a kid (but in a child brained way). But you've put it into words better than I ever could!

[@walnzell9328]

What's sad about the messaging in media is that it's no longer genuine. It became incredibly profitable to put moral messaging in entertainment, so of course corporations did it so half-assed that the messages aren't even messages. They're points on a check list. They don't do anything. There's been a few movies and shows that have been genuine, but media conglomerates don't find them worthwhile. Why try when you can make just as much money by jingling keys.

[@BlueShadow7777]

A bit like black mirror... both black mirror itself and the episode that criticizes this at the end (fifteen million merits I think it was?)

[@DatBoiOrly]

the biggest issue is goverments genuinely are stupid on most topics then they rely on outside "think tanks" which usually have ties with the business sector themselves which leads to poorly implement laws that are slightly in favor for the business than the consumer worker esc these slight advantages add up eventually leading to situations like in the movie, heck it's happening now with cars where the entire EU is pushing for "net zero" at the cost of older vehicles that still have plenty of life left in them & woud be more enviromentally friendly to keep on the road than making a new electric car every 10 years.

[@5GentleGiants]

I saw this movie before WALL-E but WALL-E was the 1 that radicalized me

[@lamppost481]

The algorithim has gifted me a gem of a video here!