Who are the Ladini people who live in the Dolomites?

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15 жыл бұрын

Kathy McCabe of www.dreamofItaly.com talks to Karen Pizzolini about the Ladini or Ladins of the Dolomites, an ethnic minority who have their own culture and language and have lived in these valleys for thousands of years. Join us on Facebook: / dreamofitaly

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@bluestate69
@bluestate69 Жыл бұрын
She has such a sweet and welcoming demeanor. Beautiful too.
@lovedaybebe5881
@lovedaybebe5881 19 күн бұрын
Her English is remarkable ! My DNA 🧬 results showed my oldest ancestor ( female ) came from here 🙏🏻 wonderful to hear about this culture !
@Performance-101
@Performance-101 12 жыл бұрын
As a speaker of Spanish, English, Swiss German, Galician, Asturian, and Catalan. I can say with total confidence that it sounds more Swiss German than Spanish or Catalan, but it flows like Galician.
@ILoveLanguages
@ILoveLanguages 6 жыл бұрын
I love this Video! Can you help me translate these phrases to Galician & Asturian. Internet has limited resources for this Beautiful language. I'm so interested on those languages. I want to learn the personally, but the best way for me to do it is to ask a speaker of it. Thanks in advance! :) 1 Hello! 2 Good morning! 3 Good evening! 4 Welcome! 5 How are you? 6 I'm fine, thanks! 7 And you? 8 Good. 9 How are things? 10 Can't complain. 11 I'm very glad to see you. 12 Thank you very much! 13 You're welcome! 14 What's new? 15 Nothing much. 16 I have to go. 17 It's getting late. 18 See you tomorrow. 19 Good luck! 20 Thanks for coming. 21 I will be right back. 22 Good night! 23 See you later! 24 Have a nice day! 25 Good bye! 26 Do you speak English 27 What's your name? 28 My name is… 29 Pleased to meet you. 30 With pleasure. 31 How old are you? 32 I'm … years old. 33 Where are you from? 34 I'm from… 35 Where do you live? 36 What is your job? 37 I'm a student. 38 I work as a … 39 I'm retired now. 40 I used to be a Teacher 41 Yes / No 42 It's a good idea. 43 It's a lie. 44 Trust me. 45 Of course. 46 No, thank you. 47 I can't. 48 Congrats! 49 Maybe. 50 It's good. 51 Perfect. 52 Too bad. 53 Finally! 54 You are lucky. 55 No doubt about it. 56 Are you kidding? 57 Stop it. 58 Don't do that. 59 It's OK, don't worry. 60 Watch out! 61 Take care. 62 It's a mistake. 63 Well done. 64 I'm late! 65 I'm home. 66 Let's go out. 67 Nice. 68 I know. 69 I don't know. 70 As you like. 71 Please. 72 Excuse me. 73 I'm sorry. 74 What? 75 Why? 76 Who? 77 How? 78 When? 79 Where? 80 How long? 81 For what? 82 How are you feeling? 83 I'm all right. 84 A little depressed. 85 How was your day? 86 It was fine. 87 Busy. 88 What's the matter? 89 I'm not feeling good. 90 Nothing, I'm fine. 91 Can you help me? 92 Of course! 93 Sure. 94 Yes, I am. 95 What do you like? 96 I like reading books. 97 How was it? 98 It was OK. 99 Do you have a hobby? 100 Yes, my hobby is listening to music.
@jesustia86
@jesustia86 11 жыл бұрын
LADIN or LADINS (whichs is the official name in Ladin itself and in English), not ladino or ladini please. Ladino is the Italian name and when used in English it just causes confusion with the Ladinos of Spain, who are a completely different group.
@Diciamolochiaro
@Diciamolochiaro 13 жыл бұрын
Ladino of Dolomites (Northern Italy, south Tirol), is NOT the same as spanish judeo in Spain
@patm5369
@patm5369 3 жыл бұрын
Ladins are located in the Trentino-ALTO ADIGE region and Veneto, not only in south Tirol. By the way south tirol in Italian is Alto Adige. How do I know? Because I am from that region.
@jesustia86
@jesustia86 11 жыл бұрын
Part 2: Examples: there is a lot of German vocabulary in badiot and gherdeina (20% of the original, not counting words newly created by language programming), the names of the traditional jobs are a simple example (paur, cramer, pinter, slosser, from Bauer, Kramer, Binder, Schlosser). Structure: the typical german combination of verb + adverb, like luvè sö, stè sö, dè sö, di sö from “aufstehen”, “aufgeben” y “aufsagen”. Phonetics: the very unique "r" sound of Gherdeina
@bacascionebacascioni897
@bacascionebacascioni897 4 жыл бұрын
No. It is not true. There are only a few "german" words. And they are ladinized. A different thing is that some people dont speak correct ladin and use some german or italian words instead of the ladin ones.
@toagne85
@toagne85 11 жыл бұрын
you're right, here in Friuli for example we speak Friulian wich is, actually, of the Ladin family and I can tell you we've got many german, slovenian, celtic words on a Latin structure.
@tasshznoclue1006
@tasshznoclue1006 3 жыл бұрын
They are both in the rhaeto-romanian Family , as romansh is . Rumantsch es mia lingua materna.
@leotato56
@leotato56 9 жыл бұрын
ONCE AGAIN: DO NOT MAKE CONFUSION BETWEEN "LADINI LANGUAGE" THAT IN ENGLISH MEANS JUDAIC LANGUAGES OF HISTORICAL EBREW COMMUNITY IN SPAIN, AND "LADIN LANGUAGE" THAT MEANS A DOLOMITIC ROMANCE LANGUAGE SPOKEN IN ITALIAN SOUTH TYROL (GARDENA VALLEY) AND STRICTLY RELATED WITH SWISS-ROMANSH AND ITALIAN-FRIULAN !!!
@Will93bn
@Will93bn 9 жыл бұрын
Ettore Tangorra OK
@alainrheault6579
@alainrheault6579 Жыл бұрын
Okay, but i'm not deaf 😁😁
@marubeni4159
@marubeni4159 6 жыл бұрын
A lot of words are like Romanian words.
@IrieSoulProductions
@IrieSoulProductions 3 жыл бұрын
She looks like my Nonna when she was younger.
@jesustia86
@jesustia86 11 жыл бұрын
P.S. Actually, it is wrong to say that Ladin is completely unrelated with German. For example in Val Badia almost 20% of the vocabulary is germanic, and part of the grammatical structure is akin to that of the neighbouring Tyrolean (German) dialects.
@bacascionebacascioni897
@bacascionebacascioni897 4 жыл бұрын
No. German has had no influence on ladin. .Ladin is 100% romance because the origin is 100% romance.The fact is that due to germanisation and italianization some ladins dont speak their language well and use italian words or german words instead of the ladin ones. But it doesnt mean ladin is a germanic language.It is like if italy conquered austria and germany and switzerland and inposed italian as the only official language and as a results ethnic germans spoke a bad german with lots of italian words. This would not make german a half romance language. And the germans would not be happy about it. They would want to regain independence ( in a NON violent way) and put remedy to the damage done by assinilation. They would put remedy to it by making standard german in its pure form as the only official language. So ladin valleys must belong to italy and italy must put remedy to the damage done by assimilation (italianization and germanisation). Of course italy must put remedy to it with non violent linguistic policies. Also the germanization of badiot and gherdeina is a very recent phenomenon that dates back to just 95 years ago wheb mussolini decided to give theese valleys to the province of bolzano. If it had not been recent why arent german words used in tue fassa valley? That valley also borders the german speakinf part of south tyrol. And the "venetan influences" on the varieties of fassa,ampezzo and fodom are not conparable. They are not due to assimilation. They exist because of the natural transition between two idioms of the same language family: ladin and venetan. In fact 2 non standardized idioms often have some degree of transition between one and the other. Gherdeina ladin and badiot ladin are not varieties of transition with german becude 2 languages of different families never have transition between them. The german words (both standard german and bavarian) in gherdeina ladin and badiot ladin are the equivalent of the italian words in the fassa ladin and in fodom ladin and in ampezzo ladin.
@klauslispector
@klauslispector 8 жыл бұрын
I am half ladin and half german...
@frangoamilanesa8255
@frangoamilanesa8255 5 жыл бұрын
Ow boy
@Kurdedunaysiri
@Kurdedunaysiri 11 ай бұрын
Lovely people. Tourism actually can also fasten the assimilation and language lose but I hope these people will stop leaving their land and preserve their nice pastoral culture.
@Dokrovluka
@Dokrovluka 11 жыл бұрын
vive il friul !!! la nestre lenghe je fuarte !
@jesustia86
@jesustia86 11 жыл бұрын
Part 1: Dear Ettore, read my comments carefully, that was never my intention. Being a romance language of course the great part of its structure is romance, but some varieties show a great "Baiuvarian" influence (i.e. badiot and gherdeina; Fodom, Fascian and Ampezan are more influenced by Venetian and Trentino), resulting in a good amount of vocabulary and a few characteristics in structure and phonetics. So it is wrong to say that German has nothing to do with it. A little bit, but not nothing.
@bacascionebacascioni897
@bacascionebacascioni897 4 жыл бұрын
No. German has had no influence on ladin. .Ladin is 100% romance because the origin is 100% romance.The fact is that due to germanisation and italianization some ladins dont speak their language well and use italian words or german words instead of the ladin ones. But it doesnt mean ladin is a germanic language.It is like if italy conquered austria and germany and switzerland and inposed italian as the only official language and as a results ethnic germans spoke a bad german with lots of italian words. This would not make german a half romance language. And the germans would not be happy about it. They would want to regain independence ( in a NON violent way) and put remedy to the damage done by assinilation. They would put remedy to it by making standard german in its pure form as the only official language. So ladin valleys must belong to italy and italy must put remedy to the damage done by assimilation (italianization and germanisation). Of course italy must put remedy to it with non violent linguistic policies. Also the germanization of badiot and gherdeina is a very recent phenomenon that dates back to just 95 years ago wheb mussolini decided to give theese valleys to the province of bolzano. If it had not been recent why arent german words used in tue fassa valley? That valley also borders the german speakinf part of south tyrol. And the "venetan influences" on the varieties of fassa,ampezzo and fodom are not conparable. They are not due to assimilation. They exist because of the natural transition between two idioms of the same language family: ladin and venetan. In fact 2 non standardized idioms often have some degree of transition between one and the other. Gherdeina ladin and badiot ladin are not varieties of transition with german becude 2 languages of different families never have transition between them. The german words (both standard german and bavarian) in gherdeina ladin and badiot ladin are the equivalent of the italian words in the fassa ladin and in fodom ladin and in ampezzo ladin.
@sassisch
@sassisch 14 жыл бұрын
The language and people are called "Ladin" in English. "Ladino" is the same as "Judeo-Spanish", the language of Jews that were expelled from Spain during the Inquisition.
@lhommemaudit6228
@lhommemaudit6228 6 жыл бұрын
Is the Ladin folk linked with the Celts,the Etruscans and the Ilirians who lived in the Alps and lately was under Roman rule ?
@leventevarga
@leventevarga 2 жыл бұрын
This is what I think,as well
@virgiolinna
@virgiolinna 14 жыл бұрын
@enter19 northen italy
@dananshen2423
@dananshen2423 Жыл бұрын
What an excellent English, Karen Pizzolini (but this name is not Ladin, right(?))
@isaaccartophilus794
@isaaccartophilus794 3 жыл бұрын
This is a musical group (three beautiful girls) that sings in Ladin (of Val Badia, Italy): kzbin.info/www/bejne/m163enmZrb19n6c
@Lalallalu
@Lalallalu 12 жыл бұрын
@MrViTopol - Scusa ma che cavolo dici? Che senso avrebbe una derivazione araba di questa parola visto che gli arabi non erano parte della storia antica dell'Italia. Pare invece che venga da vocabolo Oscan (lingua della parte centrale dell'Italia) per definire la 'terra dei vitelli'
@enter19
@enter19 14 жыл бұрын
where is Dolomites?
@belgravia85
@belgravia85 6 жыл бұрын
North Eastern section of the Italian Alps
@alexmc2168
@alexmc2168 12 жыл бұрын
My Nonna was from Zoldo Alto in the Belluno Province of Veneto. are they Ladini? My Nonna and her family spoke a mixed Venetian/Ladin languauge.
@belgravia85
@belgravia85 6 жыл бұрын
No, the Belluno province is mainly Venetian dialect/Italian speaking, with the exception of three townships quoted in the video
@carriforth5342
@carriforth5342 4 жыл бұрын
belgravia85 so how do you know his nonna wasn’t from one of those 3?
@fizollorudolf7492
@fizollorudolf7492 3 жыл бұрын
i would say , souds romanisch
@carteunu467
@carteunu467 2 ай бұрын
Can an Italian Understand Ladin? Val Badia Variety It could be that Ladin is not from Latin but the other way around. Romanians have almost exactly the same numerals and they are formed far away from the Dolomites. Romanian comes from Ladin, Dacian, not Latin. Wow 😮😮😮😮 Why Romanian Isn't Like Other Languages - because it is the closest to Ladin Origin of Romanic languages in Ladin, not in Latin. Amazing. Ladin and Ladino is the Semitic language, mother of all European languages. It is not that Spanish influenced this language. It is the other way around. Latin America is in fact Ladino America 🇺🇸. The continent where Ladinos or Jews emigrated. I always thought it has something to do with romance languages from Europe, but it is even prior to Americo Vespucci. Wow. It all makes sense. It comes full circle. Incredible. Ladino, romance language spoken in Israel 🇮🇱 We found the connection with the language spoken by the tribe of Dan, the Dacian, back to Israel. Incredible. Ladino. Latin America, could be Ladino America. 70% Jewish genes in Latin America. Either Ashkenazi or of the lost tribes of Israel. A huge revelation for today. Zal-Moxis Dacia Dan Look for the Serpent's Trail If you consider the other Romanian like languages such as Aromanian, istroromanian and others, that developed away from Dacia, you cannot say that the Dacian language was Latinised. And you cannot say that Aromanian is Latinised Greek. Because the way the latin words are spoken into these languages is close to Romanian and not Latin. How can a Latinised Greek develop 2000 km away from Dacia in the exact way as the Latinised Dacian language? No chance. It is more like Dacian language was a language that gave birth to Latin. Important to know!!!! Dacians and Sarmatians are THE LOST TRIBES OF ISRAEL. Sarmatians are Samaritans. Dacians are the Dan's. The lost tribe of Dan. They colonized first what became Thracia and Dacia and move forward up north when the Romans invaded Dacia and colonized Scandinavia known as Province of Dacia and formed also countries like Olan-da, Dan-mark. The people living in Olanda/Holland/The Netherlands, are called Dutch (pronounced Daci) They were also Dacians. Dan-mark was called Dacia in the 4th century. The tribe of Dan, colonized Iberia, France and Wallonia, as well as Irland and Scotland. Zal-Moxis was Chief Moses, the God of the Dacians. Why? Because Moses brought Israel out of Egypt. The Tribe of Dan was in Exile as well and got Moses worship 🛐 to be their protector. The Serpent with wolf 🐺 head on a pole, was the war flag of both Dacians and Sarmatians and it was inspired from the Old Testament book of Numbers 21.4-9. The serpent on the pole of Moeses. Moesia comes from Moses. Is the country of Moses people. Moesel is the river of Moses. Dan-ube is the river of Dan. Many rivers in Europe have the name based on Dan derivative in the first place. Saxons is derived from (I)saac sons. The sons of Isaac. Europe is therefore Semitic. România 🇷🇴 was occupied by many other powers over the centuries. The Ottoman Empire was there for 500 years yet Romanias don't speak Turkish. The Austr-Hungarian Empire was there for 300 years. Yet only the colonized villages in specific regions where Hungarians and Germans emigrated 700 years ago, speak Hungarian and German and are the emigrants. No Românian people ever spoke another language. The Roman occupation was only 150 years at maximum. It is no way the Dacian peasants were Latinised. Therefore Latin was not the language that formed Romanian language nor the other Romance languages from Iberic Peninsula, France, Wallonia, Italy. It is most likely that all these languages developed separately from a Semitic language that became Dacian language that got variations according to the region the segmented parts of the Tribe of Dan emigrated to. It is extraordinary and fascinating at the same time. Look for the article. The Serpent's Trail of the lost tribes of Israel. The tribe of Dan. Btw. The Gypsies are Semitic too. They are from the lost tribes of Simeon. Sardinia was also colonized by the Tribe of Dan. Romanian language and Sardinian language are similar. This is another hint.
@carteunu467
@carteunu467 2 ай бұрын
Please read 📖 Can an Italian Understand Ladin? Val Badia Variety - It could be that Ladin is not from Latin but the other way around. Romanians have almost exactly the same numerals and they are formed far away from the Dolomites. Romanian comes from Ladin, Dacian, not Latin. Wow 😮😮😮😮 Why Romanian Isn't Like Other Languages - because it is the closest to Ladin Origin of Romanic languages in Ladin, not in Latin. Amazing. Ladin and Ladino is the Semitic language, mother of all European languages. It is not that Spanish influenced this language. It is the other way around. Latin America is in fact Ladino America 🇺🇸. The continent where Ladinos or Jews emigrated. I always thought it has something to do with romance languages from Europe, but it is even prior to Americo Vespucci. Wow. It all makes sense. It comes full circle. Incredible. Ladino, romance language spoken in Israel 🇮🇱 We found the connection with the language spoken by the tribe of Dan, the Dacian, back to Israel. Incredible. Ladino. Latin America, could be Ladino America. 70% Jewish genes in Latin America. Either Ashkenazi or of the lost tribes of Israel. A huge revelation for today. Zal-Moxis Dacia Dan Look for the Serpent's Trail If you consider the other Romanian like languages such as Aromanian, istroromanian and others, that developed away from Dacia, you cannot say that the Dacian language was Latinised. And you cannot say that Aromanian is Latinised Greek. Because the way the latin words are spoken into these languages is close to Romanian and not Latin. How can a Latinised Greek develop 2000 km away from Dacia in the exact way as the Latinised Dacian language? No chance. It is more like Dacian language was a language that gave birth to Latin. Important to know!!!! Dacians and Sarmatians are THE LOST TRIBES OF ISRAEL. Sarmatians are Samaritans. Dacians are the Dan's. The lost tribe of Dan. They colonized first what became Thracia and Dacia and move forward up north when the Romans invaded Dacia and colonized Scandinavia known as Province of Dacia and formed also countries like Olan-da, Dan-mark. The people living in Olanda/Holland/The Netherlands, are called Dutch (pronounced Daci) They were also Dacians. Dan-mark was called Dacia in the 4th century. The tribe of Dan, colonized Iberia, France and Wallonia, as well as Irland and Scotland. Zal-Moxis was Chief Moses, the God of the Dacians. Why? Because Moses brought Israel out of Egypt. The Tribe of Dan was in Exile as well and got Moses worship 🛐 to be their protector. The Serpent with wolf 🐺 head on a pole, was the war flag of both Dacians and Sarmatians and it was inspired from the Old Testament book of Numbers 21.4-9. The serpent on the pole of Moeses. Moesia comes from Moses. Is the country of Moses people. Moesel is the river of Moses. Dan-ube is the river of Dan. Many rivers in Europe have the name based on Dan derivative in the first place. Saxons is derived from (I)saac sons. The sons of Isaac. Europe is therefore Semitic. România 🇷🇴 was occupied by many other powers over the centuries. The Ottoman Empire was there for 500 years yet Romanias don't speak Turkish. The Austr-Hungarian Empire was there for 300 years. Yet only the colonized villages in specific regions where Hungarians and Germans emigrated 700 years ago, speak Hungarian and German and are the emigrants. No Românian people ever spoke another language. The Roman occupation was only 150 years at maximum. It is no way the Dacian peasants were Latinised. Therefore Latin was not the language that formed Romanian language nor the other Romance languages from Iberic Peninsula, France, Wallonia, Italy. It is most likely that all these languages developed separately from a Semitic language that became Dacian language that got variations according to the region the segmented parts of the Tribe of Dan emigrated to. It is extraordinary and fascinating at the same time. Look for the article. The Serpent's Trail of the lost tribes of Israel. The tribe of Dan. Btw. The Gypsies are Semitic too. They are from the lost tribes of Simeon. Sardinia was also colonized by the Tribe of Dan. Romanian language and Sardinian language are similar. This is another hint.
@irishelk3
@irishelk3 3 жыл бұрын
That doesn’t sound German haha come on.
@montelatici
@montelatici 5 жыл бұрын
In the Ladino (or Italian) language, Ladino is the language, Ladini are the people plural. A single person would be a Ladino.
@TheLucian28
@TheLucian28 10 жыл бұрын
ladini sunt și vor fi strămoși înrudiți cu origini în munții Carpați și Valahia noi suntem frați vechi urmași al marelui neam traco-Dacic
@leventevarga
@leventevarga 2 жыл бұрын
Certainly not.
@toagne85
@toagne85 11 жыл бұрын
d'altronde, pare ovvio: Oscan -> Italia. :P
@edwardfranks5215
@edwardfranks5215 7 жыл бұрын
Say something in Ladin not Ladino which is a Spanish Jewish dialect.
@milagrosaaleman2396
@milagrosaaleman2396 6 жыл бұрын
in Spain we say Ladino
@belgravia85
@belgravia85 6 жыл бұрын
In Italian we call it Ladino and the woman in the video doesn't speak fluent English, so be understanding
@tvmystery261
@tvmystery261 7 жыл бұрын
ladino are jews. I worked in ladino hotel in Colfosco,Alta Badia
@carriforth5342
@carriforth5342 4 жыл бұрын
Different kinds of ladino
@nicolassoto1812
@nicolassoto1812 8 жыл бұрын
this is spanish but with very strong germany accent!!!
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