Who can Draft a lineup with the most STOLEN BASES? (All Time Edition)

[@Snatal13]

Not going ichiro on the mariners is crazy

[@rockysolmon1]

I was just going to say that

[@nossonkamins7708]

​@@rockysolmon1 same

[@kicking222]

Just a massive number of horrendous picks in this draft (and not Prince Fielder funny horrendous, simply "you were actually trying and failed miserably" horrendous).

[@kevinmelia2914]

A​@@nossonkamins7708

[@alexkaplan1136]

I can’t believe they didn’t pick [best pick] on [franchise]! Bums!!

[@patricksullivan8165]

I can’t believe Jake and jolly let Lou Brock fall back to Shelfy

[@pigpotty]

well i mean its a stolen base draft, you gotta go Griffey #2! I feel like Jake misheard what the category was and didn't want to admit it lol

[@floydfanTN]

In fairness I thought of Vince Coleman with the Cardinals before Lou Brock

[@craign8464]

Coleman would have been much better, 400+ more SB than Griffey and takes Brock off the board for others

[@reed5369]

@@floydfanTN nope brock all the way

[@artistictigerman]

The way I was yelling ty Cobb and he takes Prince fielder 😭

[@michaelgliddenforteski6576]

the first answer in my head... i am 4 minutes into the video and shocked by some of these answers haha

[@vcortez87]

I thought for a second they were only allowed to pick guys during the expansion era. But yeah, they just didnt think of deadball era guys.

[@ILoveMisty1985]

To think if he picked Ty Cobb he could have been 1,440 stolen bases ahead of Jolly!

[@MrBooblo]

This draft was absolute pain if you care at all about SB's.

[@vcortez87]

They shoulda gotten Foolish and hell maybe even Lucas to play.

[@MAbe-ct8yt]

Shelfy using his "MLB the Show" knowledge...

[@ShelfyTV]

😈😈😈

[@AdamLaMore]

I'd be curious to see the retention stats on this video to see how many people just shut it off after Shelfy got Lou Brock.

[@Smallsey42]

No Tim Raines from the Expos??? Arrrrggggh!!!! I guess no one wanted 635 stolen bases.

[@RallyCapBaseballtalk]

No they wanted 2 SB prince fielder

[@usmile1]

i was screaming tim raines at my phone the whole video!

[@SgtHolton]

Jolly picking fucking Billy Hamilton for the Reds and not Joe Morgan or Barry Larkin was incredibly painful. You can't steal bases if you never make it to first!

[@ryandeeken1554]

ngl it was real tough to keep watching after that Griffey pick

[@quantumfootball]

At least Honus Wagner played after 1898. Before then, you could get a stolen base if you went from first to third or second to home on a single, or two for going from first to home on a double. That’s why a lot of older teams have a bunch of pre-1898 players at or near the top of their all-time stolen bases list.

[@tuaisunderated1098]

Didn’t even know that

[@brianm7570]

I think we all shared in Lucas’ frustrations this video lol

[@edibleapeman]

I stole ONE base playing youth baseball. It's a commendation that I'm almost good enough for Shelfy to take me in an all-time draft.

[@Ize19]

One "funny" choice that actually would have beaten a lot of your outfield picks, is Tony Gwynn. 319 SB, 1st all-time for the Padres. In fact, from 1993-1997, after his young speedster days were over, and he looked like we all remember him, he stole 59 bases at an 80% success rate! In that 5 year span, he stole more bases than 7 of your picks this draft.

[@limegreenelevator]

not even a host mention of Maury Wills is slanderous

[@Simba65315]

490 for the dodgers

[@BrettNance37]

Since Jake had to ask if Roy was a Dodger, can we really expect them to know Wills? Sad

[@kicking222]

The recency bias of not knowing that Lou Brock is 2nd all-time in steals, and that the vast majority of his career was with a single team, is insane. "Yeah, uuuuuuuh, lemme take Billy Hamilton." Christ.

[@dfp_01]

For some reason I feel like these guys don't know Cardinals that much. It's sad

[@drexy1300]

Didn't even pick the the right billy hamilton

[@totallydougie9386]

I was a little surprised at the recency bias. Somebody hasn't been pouring over their grandfather's Baseball Almanacs.

[@luilovebug]

I can understand the recency bias if you legit can't think of any as time goes on, but the 2nd pick? Like come on man, know some little history here and there 😂

[@jmg999]

Vince Coleman would've been better than Hamilton.

[@Country786]

No one takin Tim Raines with the Expos is just sad

[@squarewheel1587]

I was screaming his name at my tv.

[@canihaveonemore11]

Raines and Vince Coleman… been screaming those names

[@kicking222]

​@canihaveonemore11 Coleman's damage was mostly with the Cards, so Brock was a better choice than him.

[@Math.Bandit]

Yeah, missing out on the Rock was wild.

[@Cabaret43]

They missed a lot...Willie Wilson.....Ty Cobb....Ichiro

[@jonrivera2493]

I was screaming JASON KENDALL for catchers when he was on the pirates lol

[@bertolatusfilms8922]

Lou brock not being the 2nd pick minimum is insane

[@A.A944]

Would have gone Jason Kendall with Pittsburgh to get the huge catcher advantage

[@nicholaspetrick]

I was so mad about that. He was such an obvious choice.

[@GaryDodgerfan]

Kendall was the first name i thought of. But Shelfy took Wagner early and that took the Pirates off the board...

[@SgtHolton]

At least Wagner's the #2 Pirate of all time for SBs and the all-time Stolen-Base leader at short-stop. Jason Kendall only stole 140 bags as a Pirate, which is the most of a catcher in the live ball era but isn't actually much of an advantage.

[@VersaceJesus]

I would have started a big argument about whether Craig Biggio could count as the Catcher.

[@mylesnelson2007]

If no one picks Lou Brock for the Cardinals I’m going to lose my mind

[@deecandelaria7717]

Y’all make me feel better about myself and my ball knowledge thank you

[@eoghbass2886]

I'm so sad no one picked Jeff Bagwell and his 202 stolen bases as a first baseman.

[@bgdg323]

Or Jason Kendall catcher for the pirates, 140.

[@alexlayton2735]

@@bgdg323honus wagner was taken off the board pretty quickly for the pirates unfortunately

[@kevinhinkle7632]

Biggio was gone pretty quickly

[@O-D-X]

@@kevinhinkle7632 Funnily enough, they allowed Ripken at third, he should have asked to have Biggio as a catcher. That was his first position in the bigs, and his speed was why he got moved to 2nd base.

[@stephpicher]

Yeah he could steal a bag well. 😬

[@redngold3005]

This was a crazy one for sure, it's incredible that in a stolen base draft, Ty Cobb, Tim Raines and Willie Wilson didn't get picked.

[@johnzengerle7576]

Willie Wilson for the Royals

[@jbaal1993]

Yadier Molina had more stolen bases than Cal Ripken Jr. Would make a hell of a trivia question.

[@peterharris6409]

Yeah we been asking because all these videos are fun no matter what. OBP% draft, walks draft, rbi draft etc….

[@sirbattlesfilms3233]

Said ty cobb off the rip

[@tsurdyk]

Cobb, Brock, Wills...

[@DaBaltimoron]

Junior, #2? How is Lou Brock not #1? Or 2 at worst? He made it back to Shelfie? Bro...

[@petebultmann]

Tim Raines... that one bugged me

[@noahwolfe5300]

This was such a dumb idea and I'm here for it

[@AlanNadeauIII]

Shiiiiiiiiiiit, last one for a bit eh? Dang.

[@austinfrandsen6537]

I’m sure whatever content they decide to make in the meantime will still be good

[@AlanNadeauIII]

@@austinfrandsen6537 True but I also love this series haha

[@Bobman32x]

i love the series, theres just not a whole lotta subjects left. But I think they should do the same topics, but cant use anyone already picked before

[@AlanNadeauIII]

@@Bobman32x That would be interesting

[@FocusSight]

Last all time. May be going divisional and thus per year.

[@asdfaeou]

That moment where Shelfy forgets what a DH is. What an NL guy.

[@ObscuraDeCapra]

This was the best of these videos. The chaos is always welcome.

[@BenTheBlueGuy]

Holds draft when?

[@theslotwhisperer5513]

This is exactly why I was clamoring for the SB draft this whole time, I thought it would be a riot...wasn't disappointed.

[@Casa.Blaugrana]

Not gonna lie.. the All-time drafts you do, might be the best content (it’s up there) keep doing them

[@jmu76featuring61]

Should of ended the video after shelfy got lou brock w the 6 pick 😂

[@bsabres0607]

Shelfy's top three plus Plouffe ties Jake's entire lineup.

[@6thwilbury2331]

I don't know how the rules works, but it seems drafting Biggio as a catcher would give you a huge edge over taking him as a second baseman. Plus, it opens the door to take people like Eddie Collins or Joe Morgan at 2B.

[@TheMerlotLine]

You can only slot in a player at a position if they played enough games there. IIRC, the threshold they usually go with is 25%.

[@michaelvincent2927]

I was thinking this but in games where Biggio played a defensive position only 15.5% were as catcher.

[@drewbassett449]

You can hear the pain in Lucas’s voice

[@kitjenson]

You guys dropped the ball in the first round. Geez! Brutal!

[@justinsmith293]

Perfect cast for a video right here. This crew is legit

[@6thwilbury2331]

Crazy that Henderson is almost the career stolen base leader for two different teams. Jeter ended up on top for the Yankees, besting Rickey's five-year total by a few dozen. Just shows what happens when a generational athlete meets a freakish period for a stat.

[@21kclank]

Yall should do innings pitched! Chad Innings Eater competition

[@aaronpreuss4261]

What about doing a Gold Glove draft? Or a walks draft? Those might be fun for hilarity purposes. Or a doubles draft.

[@dylanspencer1612]

Maybe we could get a coaches/managers draft going. Loving the videos fellas!

[@andrewcosgrave4594]

How do you let Shelfy get Rickey AND Lou Brock? I'm at the Chone Figgins pick, and this draft is already over. But I gotta stick around for the kooky answers.

[@moryslife3521]

Crazy how Willie mays went so late

[@craign8464]

And Jake is even reluctant to pick him.

[@mikehayes1796]

If and when you do come back for more compiler team drafts, I think having a 5 starter, 2 reliever rotation with single season wins + saves would be fun. I also think Runs scored and RBI could be fun. Could also try drafting 'bad' teams. All Star pitchers with the most losses, All Star batters with the most strikeouts, etc.

[@killacam2644]

Catcher is so tough. Yadi. 19 seasons one team. 71 bags haha.

[@lilsleepy3332]

shelfy went bananas my lord

[@prestong1773]

should do a "lowest ERA" draft. Would just need to have a cutoff for games or seasons played to qualify

[@wtfrodney]

no vince coleman or tim rock raines is criminal.

[@SwAeromotion]

Lou Brock is a better Cardinals option and once he is picked, Coleman isn't available. But yeah, no one picking Tim Raines is nuts.

[@wtfrodney]

@@SwAeromotion i mean, no one was catching shelfy this video, you could take coleman and he still would have won.

[@Noledad77]

Fun fact, Vince Coleman was a kicker in college (FAMU) and once kicked a game-winning FG against Miami (FL).

[@jacobbehling7475]

Strikeout draft for batters will go crazy, holds would be some good name pulls too

[@hustlecrowe9440]

catcher - Kendall Pirates. Raines or Dawson for Expos. Maury Wills Dodgers.

[@sebnowhere]

Ivan Rodriguez with the Rangers will be around 80 i guess too

[@ahogg5960]

Yeah but once Wagner was picked, the Pirates were done.

[@JohnBtons]

5 min in and its over!! HAHA baseball before 1990 didn't exist for Jolly 😂

[@drewbassett449]

Woah, Jake saying Joey Gathright, that is a throwback!

[@tayloroleary8880]

Shelfy banking on Jake and Jolly not taking Brock was a tidy piece of work.

[@kenlytle4331]

Tim Raines over here sitting in his Expos jersey wondering when he's getting picked...

[@vallo105]

lol it’s was over 5 minutes in

[@dfp_01]

For those curious, here is the best possible lineup I found since 1898 (player must have played 25% of games at the position with the team in question to qualify): C: CWS Ray Schalk (177) 1B: CHC Frank Chance (402) 2B: LAD Davey Lopes (418) SS: PIT Honus Wagner (639) 3B: MIL Paul Molitor (412) OF: STL Lou Brock (888) OF: DET Ty Cobb (869) OF: OAK Rickey Henderson (867) DH: MON (WSN) Tim Raines (635) Total: 5,307 stolen bases Best not to make the cut: PIT OF Max Carey (688) KCR OF Willie Wilson (612) KCA/OAK SS Bert Campaneris (566) STL OF Vince Coleman (549) WAS (MIN) OF Clyde Milan (495)

[@garrett8649]

I liked Lucas's idea of only doing names from the expansion era, once you allow the old guys there's not a whole lot of reason to pick players from recent history.

[@intellectualmind9512]

good thing for them is that they cant even think of the old guys pre expansion. I mean Prince Fielder for the Tigers is just wow.

[@luilovebug]

Well, a lot of times these guys have a very recency bias brain. Don't think it might matter that much 😂

[@craign8464]

Hank Aaron is routingly forgotten so not an issue. They pretty much always lean more recent.

[@dylanreed1034]

Fun fact. Vince Coleman was the last person to steal 100 bags in a season in 1987 with 109 swipes. But he stole 107 and 110 in the two season before that. 100 stolen bases in a season has only happen 8 times since integration.

[@lincolnmckay555]

Jolly! You took the wrong Billy Hamilton.

[@pwnmasteh]

Lou Brock going in the 3rd round is wild

[@anthonyh9481]

Do the most balks draft next.

[@DoltFromTheBlue]

Can you pick Bob Davidson?

[@nickpartynski6663]

Shelfys beard is on POINT

[@CrushDani]

Down boy!

[@el_if27]

lineup with the LEAST amount of stolen bases would also be a banger i feel like

[@TheTEN24]

This is a tough draft that’s for sure Shelfy killed it

[@DanielClayton-pr1sc]

dyson was a blast on the recent KC cycle, but Willie Wilson was da man for YEARS!

[@gpajoescloset6133]

What about Willie Wilson for Royals? He had a bunch in the early 1980s.

[@Kurtvicknair1]

The whole video in my head I kept saying Maury Wills

[@crimson6663]

I was TWEAKING at none of them choosing Pudge at catcher

[@joshdavis3743]

Billy Hamilton over Joe Morgan with the Reds. Crazy!!!!!! Also Lou Brock not going one or two is crazy!!!

[@micahgeurts9233]

I was waiting patiently for Tim Raines on the Expos to be mentioned... then the wild picks started and I knew it wasn't happening

[@GenericUsername23]

Let’s see a worst fielders draft. Most errors

[@RealEros]

wheres the best possible lineup card?

[@edibleapeman]

It would have Willie Mays Hays on it.

[@soccch]

I decided to check for myself, and here's what I got C: King Kelly (ATL) - 238 1B: Frank Chance (CHC) - 402 2B: Bid McPhee (CIN) - 568 3B: Paul Molitor (MIL) - 412 SS: Honus Wagner (PIT) - 639 OF: Rickey Henderson (OAK) - 867 OF: Lou Brock (STL) - 888 OF: Ty Cobb (DET) - 869 DH: Tim Raines (WSN) - 635 If my math is right, this comes out to 5518 stolen bases.

[@randallwong7196]

Using Griffey Jr. as your first choice 😬😬( grimacing smiley )

[@crimson6663]

I think an average (or obp) and an era (or fip) draft could work really well, just set an inning/game minimum (100 games for batters, 100 innings for pitchers) and whoever has the highest average or lowest era wins.

[@ben2972]

This was a super painful episode. Entertaining. But very painful.

[@prestonjones20013]

Bro. How did no one pick Tim Raines for the Expos/Nats? A big old 650 right there for the taking

[@jgray2718]

Without watching any of the video I think my first 3 are Rickey Henderson with the A's, Ty Cobb with the Tigers, and Lou Brock with the Cardinals. I'm not sure after that, though. In these all-time drafts it feels like you should just always take Willie Mays, Stan Musial, Ted Williams, and/or Carl Yastrzemski because of the one-team requirement. I'm guessing Willie had some steals but no idea about the rest of them.

[@aidansmith2779]

you could do a wins draft, either for pitchers, or for teams

[@reioftheseventhcircle]

honestly was shocked nobody took 42 on the dodgers

[@emmiebug99]

The Prince Fielder answer was amazing

[@HisHowliness]

Love that my first thought ended up being #1 overall. I'm old.

[@esawko]

Not one scream at my phone but there were 2 that drives nuts. 1. Griffey picked in the first round 2. Jason Kendall at catcher

[@NoahJohnson-g2k]

3 minutes in and i am gonna say congrats Shelfy!

[@Noledad77]

Bo Jackson would've been my Royals pick. Trout with the Angels? I don't know if he was a runner, though. Ohtani, perhaps? A good draft would be "Most home runs in their home stadium". Any era, all time. Can we make that happen?

[@reed5369]

cant postpone this series on a sour note. need a good draft fast

[@4everinpanama]

This video is a riot

[@Phalokratis]

THE BOYZZZZ ARE BACK IN TOWWWWN

[@stephpicher]

You guys spoiling Ty Cobb AND Tim The Rock Raines makes me win that game alone in my office.

[@nicholaspetrick]

Screaming Jason Kendall Pirates and don't know how you all missed that.

[@UWHabs1]

Even just taking Realmuto would have been a better C option than what they ended up with

[@wardog_3]

wagner was taken early as the pirate. if they had gone catcher earlier someone could've gotten him

[@SgtHolton]

Wagner from the Pirates was a better pick. Kendall only had 140 steals, you punt on that for the all-time SB-leader at SS.

[@og5466]

How about RBIs for every division?

[@Hetubird]

Last one for a bit? Time to go all the way back to the beginning and rewatch..

[@Shaninski23]

Jason Kendall would've been a sneaky good catcher pick I would think. That was where my mind went.

[@ChadConant21]

Joe Morgan with the Reds would have been a spectacular pull.

[@ThatJohnnyGerdes]

Y’all need to do an innings draft for pitchers

[@jaybewan5447]

I was surprised no one mentioned Vince Coleman