Who cheated more? Devon Larratt VS Genadi Kvikvinia

[@KevinLuWX]

What do you want next? Devon VS Matt Mask Jerry VS Genadi Matt Mask VS Ermes (2019)

[@tylerjames2972]

I would love to see that. Edgin look at his elbow!

[@benedict5544]

Gonna be at least 10 elbow fouls lmao

[@names-mars]

The biggest badass thing here, Devon caught that false start and 40degree shoulder with ease... that's the power of Devon in this match

[@rjharrold2907]

Almost like when he caught Jerry in the defensive hook and won that round. With more dedication to inside time in the leadup to the rematch he should be the favorite again because he still will have hand control and then should be stronger and not gas out inside. They're a close great match still though

[@nahyanrajee198]

the refs presumptions about devon resulted in them completely overlooking genadis false starts and shoulder position at the starts

[@betofernandez5524]

And is almost allways the same thing ma frend

[@HenryNehring]

exactly, they were so focused on devon genadi could do anything he wanted

[@johnmclain3485]

I agree. They only look at the Western pullers. Just like they were so focused on MMT when pulling Ongarbayev they called phantom fouls on a downward humerus angle when clearly it wasnt.

[@NoRest4TheWicked1]

Those false starts are ridiculous, Michael Todd needed to be in his corner 😂 he would’ve cried for the replay on behalf of Devon

[@DylanDavis3610]

Genadi hustled Devon and he went right along with it, he cheated the cheater well played 😂😂

[@sebastiansullivan4770]

Yeah I mean it can't be said that he did not beat him at his own game!

[@Ninja4Parkour]

Phenomenal idea - I immediately subscribed and liked. Can we expect more of this consistently in the future?

[@KevinLuWX]

I'll most likely make a video when the cheating is significant enough to change the outcome of the match. It's not a common occurrence though. Most of the time the better man wins regardless of cheating.

[@igorkatkov1957]

I see both sides were cheating. Who got an advantage?

[@DeelakaNanayakkara]

@@igorkatkov1957Obvious Genadi

[@igorkatkov1957]

@@DeelakaNanayakkara Larratt made his reputation cheating all the time for years. Now nobody is unhappy if someone overcheated Larratt)) Gena won because he spread the load on his arm evenly between different movements. He switched from hook to press and back every round. That is why Gena hook and press worked like 3-4 times each while Larratts side pressure worked like 7 times total and tired first Full strategic mindset victory of Gena.

[@mar__k]

Thanks for putting this out!! Some people need to see and understand!

[@brianbernardino813]

After genadi realized devon is strong in the center, he started to do false starts…

[@mcnugget9999]

Quality content man. Thanks. Kind of hard to believe Genadi wasn’t called for any of those false starts

[@BarryAllen-ht9jm]

the biggest thing i remember is the ref keep telling devon to fix his shoulders when i noticed genadi was doing it as much if not even more

[@derekgross1111]

Amazing video. I think you just found your career. This channel is going to blow up in a very good at if you keep this up. As long as it's fair n transparent each time this is incredible. Much love n respect!

[@theandren85]

refs was a disgrace at the event...

[@Humblescape]

We honestly need more of these videos. Excellent break down.

[@ButterbeanThe]

I knew the shenanigans were going to be top notch when the match was announced. We all know Devons table IQ is off the charts and I personally believe Gennadi is right there with him. We got what we asked for which was a great match. My opinion on who cheated or fouled more does not matter, the results are final. But I will say if it was straight up and a clear win or loss no one would care for the rematch. The top guys are so close I would watch any of them matched up and I do not the think Levan is so far ahead he cant be beat.

[@benedict5544]

This is probably the best armwrestling analysis video ive seen of this match, keep up the good work!

[@abolfazldavoudi5000]

thanks my freind it was the best analysis that i ever see from this match

[@zwigoma2]

Keep this up and everyone is coming here.

[@calebwilliams7447]

You will blow up if you keep doing these exact videos.

[@syedtcb]

Buddy. Great stuff. Please keep up these types of videos.

[@Dmgolfer22]

Loading is not against the rules. False starting is. Nobody cheated anyone. Just bad referring. BTW Devon didn’t elbow foul round 1 when they called it. Terrible stoppage.

[@gabrielc6252]

how can you load without starting ? geez

[@KevinLuWX]

@SG RecordS You can absolutely load without starting if the opponent loads with you, which is often the case.

[@FanatecSystem]

@SG RecordS and the opponent generally matches it right away. its how a good grip can be done

[@Dmgolfer22]

@SGRecordS1 Devon’s hand never moved from the refs grip in the setup in round 1. He obviously loaded but didn’t move. Loading/bracing and false starting are two totally different things. Wanna see a false start? slow motion the restart of round 1, round 3 and round 4 of the match and it’s not Devon false starting.

[@FanatecSystem]

@SG RecordS loading aint start smfh

[@A_Seej]

yep yep... forget everything all you need to know is that early starts, are probably the most advantageous foul that was never called

[@Fastaschit]

Nice work on this edit!

[@BaranAlkim]

Reaaaaaly good video

[@I_Never_Lie]

Guys, don't forget Genadi cheated the whole fight with Jerry and ref completely ignored it. I'm not surprise if EvW ref are bias towards the Wests.

[@gadashendit]

🤡💩 You mean Jerry cheated all the time, he is pushing people of the pad. Clown 🤡

[@theduffman9834]

This entire event the refs were biased against the west, it was ridiculous. Not that the east guys are bad, most of them are amazing but the reffing got pretty ridiculous throughout the event and almost entirely towards one side

[@gadashendit]

@@theduffman9834 🤣🤡💩 cry me a river 😭

[@royprio]

Arm wrestling should have a better reffing system equipped with more technologies and replays.

[@godlyaardvark7265]

This is an amazing analysis god damn

[@karp7747]

Great vid love the analysis can u do mask vs Devon next? This is helping me learn the rules too lol

[@jackrichards1908]

Oh wow. Great post.

[@Yes_I_c4n]

Good video, mate.

[@bubbles6883]

Great video!

[@ivanklincarov6514]

Nice video my man

[@michahalczuk9071]

It's hard to say what's false start, when Devon is static loading for last couple seconds of gripping. Not to mention that he generally starts rotating shoulders to his advantage well before start on every match. All in all it looked pretty fair in terms of overall unchecked bullshittery. Good comparison though :)

[@montepr803]

This is why the sport if Armwrestling will never be taken seriously. Btw Devon got a fat dose of karma on that day. I'm not saying it's the right thing however, we saw a clear case of "what goes around comes around"

[@Dmgolfer22]

Please explain. Loading isn’t against the rules and it’s not his job to ensure his opponent is comfortable in the setup.

[@Matthew_1904]

@@Dmgolfer22 like devon made prudnik the bad guy in the eyes of the referees, this time genadi made devon look like the bad guy that cheats so genadi could comfortably help himself in the setup

[@JonHop1]

@@Dmgolfer22 loading is not the only thing Devon does to cheat ... Devon is one of the biggest cheaters in the sport..

[@Dmgolfer22]

@@JonHop1 how? What is it that he’s doing that’s cheating?

[@JonHop1]

@@Dmgolfer22 The question is, how is he NOT cheating LOL... Cheating and gamesmanship is Devon's bread and butter and his entire career. Hey, no hate here, he has made a great living off of it, and if these arm Wrestling organizations are going to allow it for entertainment purposes, so be it. Not my cup of tea tho. I prefer real arm wrestling. That is why here in the Mid-West, we do sit-down Arm-wrestling, where weak people cant cheat or use their body to compensate for their lack of arm-strength. There is a reason Richard Lupkes and Denis never lost a sit-down match ever. That is true Arm-wrestling, and a true test of arm strength. No legs loaded on the table legs, no leaning in, no leaning backwards, no presses, no kings move... Just a match of pure arm strength. Best style. We use special chairs so you cant lean back, but we also have a foul line for leaning forward. So your shoulder cannot go past the start of the elbow pad.

[@grandpadale4026]

The high speed talking is hilarious

[@nachocudicio2121]

Amzing job. I think the false starts makes a lot of diference

[@dr_paul392]

great job!

[@alexrode7858]

Awesome video

[@midnightvanisher]

Horrible ref, most of the time his hands are still on when he over exaggerates the go command

[@gabrielharrison9800]

Ya genadi definitely had multiple false starts, there is no reason he should have won.

[@potpolima]

Nah, larratt himself loaded his defense prior to readyGO.. he could not stop genadis press.

[@KevinLuWX]

​@@potpolima Defensive pullers like myself tend flex our arms and wrist at max intensity 1-2 seconds before the go. I'll visibly shaking but I am only applying 20-30% force on the opponent. It's hard to tell how much force is actually being loaded just judging by their facial expression. A real false start with commitment will have a backwards jerk in the head. It's very easy to catch in slow motion.

[@alantryhard8632]

​@@KevinLuWX offensive pullers like myself tend to start about .2 - .5 seconds before the go

[@aleXtreme_]

@@potpolima You must be new, let me enlighten you then, they all load, in some you can see it, in some not. There is absolutely not a single soul in prof arm wrestling who doesn't load

[@HexxuSz]

now compared this to real match of irakli vs kidirgaly pure class, if you are not cheating you are beautiful!

[@hwd1463]

How’s first round Genadi’s if he fouled in losing position??

[@2009bowling]

So many cry babies in the comments section, yall aren't crying when your daddy cheats and win. 😂😂😂 If arm-wrestling was really in its true and pure form Devon wouldn't even be in the top 100. Its his trickery and techniques that has made him so dominate. Stop being a hypocrite when someone out witted your master at his own game he got away with so much more its just in time someone else got away with it as well 🤣🤣🤣.

[@rafeeqj8371]

i love when Devon loses the "cheat analysis" its the only time you see them lol -the salt is real in the DevonOnlyFans world🤣😂

[@yunusawan1467]

Did any cheating impact the results of the match? If so, who would have won had said cheating not occurred, and what would the score have been?

[@Bro_31394]

Bro you made it to the algorithm. Keep doing this. To be fair both cheated though.

[@krob5375]

Ultimately its on the refs. The athletes, not just Devon, will use every advantage they can to win. If the ref doesn't call it, you can't really blame them. Great match and win for Genadi. Rematch will be kickass

[@JoCoMoreno]

Why arent the backpressure false starts that devon is known for being ticked here as well? For every time that genadi false starts forward, devon also starts applying backpressure before the go.

[@Beast-mf7br]

you mean when Genadi pushes his own hand into Devon's shoulder?

[@JoCoMoreno]

​@@Beast-mf7br No. When devon pressed his shoulder into genadis cause he coudnt finish the press. You silly devon fans will do backflips to justify his nonsense😂

[@Beast-mf7br]

@@JoCoMoreno lol, did you even watch the match? go watch that part in particular...the only 'barely' touch was when Genadi was forcing it, which is exactly why the ref didn't call it AS STATED IN THE COMMENTARY

[@JoCoMoreno]

@@Beast-mf7br oh of course i watched it😅 how else would i know about it. You dev🤡n delusonals are pretending devon never fouled in the match. It was all stolen from him🤣🤣 Well guess what? If you think devon was cheated, and we go with your logic, then lets talk about who waz cheated in dev🤡n vs: John Jerry Dave Prudnyk Lets say those 4 were cheated as well🤣🤣🤣

[@gadashendit]

​@@Beast-mf7br 🤡💩

[@felipells5284]

Well... glad you made this. Engin clearly said in Rules Meeting: "False start is a foul". "Center advantage" is a warning. So, clearly Devon was robbed. The "rematch" ... Devon just wins. (And just call for Replay on crap referee)

[@harjas9]

this clearly shows Genadi would have lost if there was no false start. I'm amazed how the ref are selected in EvW. Engin holds the responsibility for selecting the refs. They all need to be held accountable for any match where ref failed to deliver. Disgusting I would say. Btw - great work Kevin.

[@Ivan-zw8em]

The space between the shoulder and hand disappears is also considered cheating

[@KevinLuWX]

Not if his shoulder doesn't touch his own hand

[@curtcoeurdelion]

Genadi „Quick“vinia.

[@DashDrones]

Devon allowed the loss to be honest. Maybe arm wrestling is getting more like WWE...

[@GodofThunder699]

I would say it was almost the same. If there were 6 round amount of fouls could have been a bit different

[@Kevvi-xp4be]

Shameful from the refs. Genadi should have been in Devons distant past. Disgraceful.

[@joshuakun5503]

Referee left the match

[@celeno31]

👍👍

[@patriotsakaalsalazar4111]

There’s no cheating here. It’s an arm fight. Both fighters just want to implement their game and get an advantage.

[@acurex249]

and getting an unfair advantage is cheating

[@patriotsakaalsalazar4111]

@@acurex249 there is a referee. That’s the referees determination and decision. No longer the fighters fault.

[@bigpoppajutz95]

Genadi cheated and the refs allowed it but scrutinised Devan. Classic.

[@aaronrus]

That was NOT an elbow foul in round 1

[@yannickwillems1991]

Those ref did a bad job 🤦🏽 at that match

[@youtubecensoringcomments7427]

Lol you are not calling devon touching the hands with his shoulder

[@KevinLuWX]

Rule 8.1.3 states that "competitor cannot touch any part of *their* body" Keyword: *their* Devon's shoulder touched Genadi's hand not his own.

[@zeuris747]

Round one Genadi elbow is not a foul it went straight up with no intentional gain. Devons elbow slid off the back of the pad which is automatic foul because Engin Terzi increased the elbow pad size after the Jerry vs Genadi match. The refree was 100% correct call foul on Devon .

[@greigite5191]

genadi lifted his elbow in intent to stop the match since he was losing

[@zeuris747]

@@greigite5191 That's your assumption, Genadi elbow was was not elbow foul according to the E vs W 7 rules. Genadi could have slipped his elbow off of the pad to take a foul & restart the match if he felt he was going to lose.. Even if Genadi elbow was a foul the round would reset & Devon does not win the first round ,so it makes no sense that Devon deserves a rematch. It's classic delusional Devon treatment.

[@youtubecensoringcomments7427]

Latest round 5. It was not a false start...2:57. The referre already eas releasing his hands. Genadi did not load yet

[@chrisulfen8775]

Devon cheats all the time in the setup. Genadi understood that and made the playing field equal by doing so too. Nonetheless, Devon got beat where it matters, especially in round 5. Devon should have won the 5th but Genadi just fought on with everything he got.

[@justinrutledge6090]

That shaved head ref is super biased for Gennady, he literally refused to call any foul against Gennady when he was facing Jerry an he was just starring at his elbow off the pad. Did he even call 1 foul against Gennady in the Devon match?

[@youtubecensoringcomments7427]

1:51 You are not calling devon starting round 3 with his shoulder un the middle of the table... Amazing you don't call this. That is why the false start was irrelevant.. he got blocked by devons shoulders in position since 20 seconds before lol😂

[@forcenxkarate_pro4534]

saw that too

[@KevinLuWX]

Pointed out the angles at 2:01. Devon is about 10 degrees more carved in than Genadi at the go.

[@coreybarron907]

First question I would ask about the answer to this question is... Are you part of the East group or the West Group? Bias incoming...

[@KevinLuWX]

I lived in Taiwan for most of my life, sometimes the US, so I am technically part of both.

[@pancake9939]

Fr

[@nanthipat1]

@@KevinLuWX Me too.

[@KevinLuWX]

@@nanthipat1 你有參加 TAWA 嗎?

[@mike4962]

Lol shafted to oblivion. Don't have such strong presuppositions

[@joseywheels]

The ref won

[@rajyourboy6741]

Gaynadi didn't cheat reffs did😂😂😂😂

[@icephoenix1024]

Well Devon had the first false start in my opinion. He cuped before start. That should be foul and restart. But yeah Genadi did more frequent false start, even though only some tenth of a second. The reffing could have been better.

[@Blitzinh1t]

You can’t cheat hard work don’t like the title

[@topspeed1648]

Need to see replay round 4 in full match there is elbow foul in the end

[@nickd.7267]

The referees are so stupid sometimes.

[@priyanshunayak-pi3ff]

So you are weather ☁️ channel transitioning to arm wrestling analysis channel😂

[@KevinLuWX]

I am both!

[@RockWeeder1975]

Gaynadi cheated the most by far and won…..I bet it don’t happen twice.

[@fuqui035]

Devon will never beat livan

[@justaguyfromreddit]

Devon "if you ain't cheating you ain't trying" reap what you saw

[@templetonbob]

It looks like they both “cheated”. But in Devon’s own words, the refs don’t decide matches the guys pulling do. No excuses.

[@aaronrus]

If the refs called round 1 correctly , it was 3-0 Devon

[@whiskeythrottle8680]

Both cheated I don’t see reason for a rematch it should have been disqualifying for both and better refs WAL rules and Bart reffing 🤘🏼

[@rasberrydefender1930]

The east guys seem to be favoured in East vs West

[@ivanpinelli]

Devon Always loads back

[@ARMWRESTLINGCYCLINGFRANCE]

Devon, but frankly frankly, it didn't matter. The better man won.

[@ehoc42]

idk if I would say Devon had 0/5 false starts. The amount he loads before the go counts as him basically going. He definitely wouldnt be able to load that much in WAF or PAL.

[@KevinLuWX]

Static loading is quite different from full sending it and crashing down with your entire body. Some form of loading is pretty much inevitable in any tournament pull around the world. If the hand position does not move, then that means the opponent is loading equally. The only round where Devon manages to load off center is R1 in which I pointed out. He also did on average worse on rounds where he did noticeably load.

[@ehoc42]

@@KevinLuWX ok, so 1/5 false starts at the very least

[@KevinLuWX]

@@ehoc42 If you count static loading as false starts, 80% of matches are false starts. False starts is when opponent applies peak force before the go. There's almost always a jerk in the head that makes false starts very easy to spot.

[@ehoc42]

@@KevinLuWX ok you don't have to call it a false start then, you can call it moving in a refs grip. Devon does it more than everyone and berates the umpire while doing it to get what he wants.

[@KevinLuWX]

@@ehoc42 I did call it moving in a ref's grip... 🤦‍♂

[@msdweldingfabrication7051]

Even if Gennady cheated more who cares, the biggest cheater in arm wrestling got beat at his own game. What goes around comes around and there ain't a damn thing anyone can do about it! It's kind of f***** up there giving him a redo so fast though?

[@saurabh75prakash]

Genadi did everything right. He is the winner.

[@dadolun9485]

Lol 😂 Really? 😂😂😂 You haven't seen the shoulder touch of Devon? Also the circus Devon made each round 😂 "Who cheated most?" ... of course Devon as always. Engen Terzi is desperated cause Americans doesn't win on East vs West and is afraid for the pay per views 😂😂😂 Poor Devon he should cheat more next time 😂

[@KevinLuWX]

Not shoulder contact with his own hand. So no violation of rules.

[@Da-iken]

What a cry baby u r ...

[@dadolun9485]

@@KevinLuWX 1:45 Sure? Anyway if you cheat you deserve to be cheated. Clean and well deserved victory by Genadi in my opinion.

[@KevinLuWX]

@@dadolun9485 Opponent's hand touching your shoulder is not a violation of rule. This was not a clean victory just like how Devon's win against Chaffee and Matt Mask was not clean.

[@Ninja4Parkour]

This kinda just proves that Geneadi wasn't going to win that day unless he false-started every single round, no?

[@Hero-um9wj]

even this video is biased devon touch in round 2 shoulder to hand but u didnt say anything

[@KevinLuWX]

No violation of rules there. Rules states you can't touch *your own* hand, doesn't say anything about opponent's hand. Otherwise any opponent can force a foul by simply extending their finger.

[@justaguyfromreddit]

@@KevinLuWX the rules state you cannot touch anything

[@KevinLuWX]

@@justaguyfromreddit Rules state that the competitor "cannot touch any part of *their* body". Keyword: *their*

[@GodofThunder699]

​​@@KevinLuWXlol I always thought that Devon fouled here, but apparently no

[@gadashendit]

Another salty devon's fangirl, nothing new, cry harder 🤡

[@acurex249]

proof that its a girl?

[@aleXtreme_]

🤡🤡

[@gadashendit]

@@aleXtreme_ 🤡💩