Who Controlled Jerusalem the Longest?

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Жыл бұрын

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@UsefulCharts
@UsefulCharts Жыл бұрын
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@hansolowe19
@hansolowe19 Жыл бұрын
You could have done a top 5 and have room to spare 🥺
@bosbanon3452
@bosbanon3452 Жыл бұрын
Hello i have a simmiliar request on Mecca and Medina, who hold those holy city for the longest time, i am curious about the famitid and the sharifian Dynasty rule on that city, the sharifian Dynasty or today the hashemite of Jordan has held that region since fatimid era and keep hold those city until the Ottoman era but as vassal , they have become vassal of the fatimid , ayyubid , mamalik , Abbasid( ayyubid and mamalik both were nominal vassal of abbasid) and the Ottoman z they being defeated by the Saudi Arabia like in your Asian monarch chart , o have to ask you because of the sectenarian tendency i have. Sorry for telling you this, but the salafi sect claimed the those two holy city always at their hand , yeah i have sectenarian intention but what they claim is very far from the truth , i cannot let this false claim
@bosbanon3452
@bosbanon3452 Жыл бұрын
By explaining that Mecca and Medina plus Jerusalem wasn't in their hand you also have take part in undermine extrimism
@youkurban
@youkurban Жыл бұрын
who was Jerusalem gold construction. do you know?
@hansolowe19
@hansolowe19 Жыл бұрын
@@youkurban can you rephrase that? I don't understand.
@kivikallo4313
@kivikallo4313 Жыл бұрын
Mom said it's my turn to control Jerusalem
@Scrubermensch
@Scrubermensch Жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHAHA
@thebandit0256
@thebandit0256 Жыл бұрын
I am suppose to have it when the Big three finally settle their Difference
@m.a.6833
@m.a.6833 Жыл бұрын
@@thebandit0256 until the time comes!
@ScholasticaMaan
@ScholasticaMaan Жыл бұрын
LOL
@mlbbcommentmoderator5546
@mlbbcommentmoderator5546 Жыл бұрын
OMG! Are you the Missiah?
@theascendunt9960
@theascendunt9960 6 ай бұрын
It's insane to think that the Mongols tried to fight for Jerusalem! Speaks volumes about how vast their empire and the reach was. Damn!
@Ragnarok__
@Ragnarok__ 6 ай бұрын
Even Further. the city would go to the crusaders. The Mongols were fighting for Egypt, probably all of North Africa was their final objective.
@rhetoric5173
@rhetoric5173 6 ай бұрын
Only reason the Fatimids were separated was to hand the numbers 🤡
@ktcarl
@ktcarl 6 ай бұрын
Can you imagine the logistics of a government from Mongolia(China) conquering and ruling Jerusalem?!?!
@nirwana07
@nirwana07 6 ай бұрын
​@@ktcarlit wasnt controlled from mongolia or china. it was indipendent warlords freedom to decide
@Caligrl1044
@Caligrl1044 6 ай бұрын
They destroyed Iraq and most muslin countries
@susannemontagnemslmtryt7885
@susannemontagnemslmtryt7885 5 ай бұрын
Based on this presentation, Italy should administrate Jerusalem. Muslims can use the Dome on Friday, Jews on Saturday, and Christians on Sunday. Monday thru Thursday it is open to tourists.
@foreverraining1522
@foreverraining1522 5 ай бұрын
lol u fool
@kennye6088
@kennye6088 5 ай бұрын
Why? What is your position base on.?
@TheEmpressWhohasitall
@TheEmpressWhohasitall 5 ай бұрын
In islam, we pray 5 times a day and everyday, not only on fridays. ❤
@kasurtipis2439
@kasurtipis2439 5 ай бұрын
@@TheEmpressWhohasitall and Jews pray 3 times every day, not only on Saturday.
@TheEmpressWhohasitall
@TheEmpressWhohasitall 5 ай бұрын
@@kasurtipis2439 you tagged the wrong person 🙏🏼
@sneavile9912
@sneavile9912 3 ай бұрын
It’s kinda funny how the nations that dominated Jerusalem the longest are in opposite order that the religions are in.
@heyhakim8314
@heyhakim8314 Ай бұрын
the whole graph has been green since 600 AD but the guy still manages to put the Romans and the Jews at the top of the ranking! intellectual dishonesty... the truth is that Jerusalem has been in a Muslim fold for 14 centuries, that is the truth
@bait5257
@bait5257 12 күн бұрын
Sorry can you explain what that means?? Even though my English isn't that bad , i still couldn't understand it
@arandomlemon6707
@arandomlemon6707 10 күн бұрын
​​@@bait5257 Of the 3 Abrahamic religions Judism is the oldest, Christianity came next, and Islam came last. The Muslims of Islam owned Jerusalem longer than the Christians, who owned it longer than the Jews. Basically, the younger religions had the holy land longer than the oldest
@bait5257
@bait5257 10 күн бұрын
@@arandomlemon6707 thx for explaining 👍😊.
@peterdavis4157
@peterdavis4157 8 күн бұрын
​@@arandomlemon6707owned?
@lorrainegatanianhits8331
@lorrainegatanianhits8331 6 ай бұрын
Imagine being an archeologist or geologist studying jerusalem. Must be fascinating to have so much cultural change embedded in the ground/remains.
@uberdonkey9721
@uberdonkey9721 5 ай бұрын
I visited, and what amazed me is the Roman architecture is actually some of the newer stuff. They have to dig through this to get to the pre Roman buildings. Truly a historic city.
@youssefdirani
@youssefdirani 4 ай бұрын
I believe we should call for a referendum made by true original land owners (Palestineans, including native Palestinean jews) and they decide the state they want. Simple. Very simple. It's not a thousands of years matter. Zionism is danger and should not be adopted by a state.
@ems4884
@ems4884 3 ай бұрын
It is a challenging place for archeology because of the sensitive politics and the religious demands that the public often tries to place on the practice of archeology. It also is famous for drawing lots of pseudoarcheology, as are al sites with any connection to the bible. Curiously, however, most of the pseudoarcheology is from a Christian POV.
@RylishZaliou12
@RylishZaliou12 3 ай бұрын
@@youssefdiraninah, the Arabs and Palestinian are the people this world don’t need, and are happy to get rid of for their own interests 😌.
@hanojo6098
@hanojo6098 3 ай бұрын
Archaeologists been searching for salmon temple for years they don't find it till now . Either there is no salmon temple and it is just religious myths that have nothing to do with real history, or they are searching in the wrong country. They should try to searche for salmon temple in Iran or Africa or yemeni
@belialord
@belialord Жыл бұрын
0:23 I always thought Jerusalem was the most besieged city in history, but it's actually Constantinople... 34 times
@robertjarman3703
@robertjarman3703 Жыл бұрын
Watched Emperor Tigerstar talking about it too?
@belialord
@belialord Жыл бұрын
@@robertjarman3703 I don't remember where I learned it but yeah I think perhaps it was him
@kaloarepo288
@kaloarepo288 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget Rome as well -it was besieged many times starting with the Gauls in 300 BC and then by many others like Hannibal then the Vandals and Goths/the Byzantines too/the Goths again and the worst occupation of the lot was in about 1517 when the armies of the Holy Roman Empire of Charles V who was fighting the pope is supposed to have wreaked more death and destruction than any of the ancient sieges and plundering.
@shaybs
@shaybs Жыл бұрын
Constantinople was Napolean's dream city and dream world capital. It is one hell of a city.
@pa9030
@pa9030 Жыл бұрын
@@kaloarepo288 i doubt rome was besieged more than 30 times if even that much. Edit: probably not even close to 15 times
@mbsouthflorida
@mbsouthflorida 5 ай бұрын
Cool video, thanks for creating it!
@mohammedalariefy6489
@mohammedalariefy6489 5 ай бұрын
Beautifully written and explained. Thank you
@DrEvoProducer
@DrEvoProducer 6 ай бұрын
He made this a year ago, not knowing how applicable and essential it will be in Oct. Of 2023 👏👏 Bravo 🎉
@everythingisalllies2141
@everythingisalllies2141 6 ай бұрын
The root cause of the wars is because of religious nutters, Muslims and Jews and Christians. NONE of them have ANY right to rule over a land, They are just religions. People who live there need to run the place, and their religious faith should stay in their homes, never brought into consideration in real life. The people that live there, come from many nations and cultures, they are multicultural, no religious cult gets to lord it over the next cult of religious nutters.
@ElJuaritozz
@ElJuaritozz 6 ай бұрын
Yea it’s like dude had a feeling
@geedee7632
@geedee7632 6 ай бұрын
Problem is its of prophecy in biblical scriptures Scrolls 📜 🤔 hmmm??
@Wallyworld30
@Wallyworld30 6 ай бұрын
@@geedee7632 Which prophecy exactly are you referencing?
@stoopidapples1596
@stoopidapples1596 6 ай бұрын
I mean, it wouldn't be that surprising if you told him a year ago that a conflict was going to start again between Israel and Palestine. It's sorta been on and off for the past 80 years.
@eb6510
@eb6510 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see more of these city charts, maybe for places like Rome, Istanbul, or London. It's interesting to see how broader historical events can impact specific places.
@Jay_Johnson
@Jay_Johnson Жыл бұрын
Those cities have far fewer times that they change hands. Jerusalem was always on the periphery of larger empires so changed hands quite often. Those cities were the centres of empires.
@10509054
@10509054 Жыл бұрын
@Dawood Aamir yes, it was always besieged, but the Romans always held it, only failing in 1204 and 1453. Istanbul didn't change hands that much.
@sadaasdafa8635
@sadaasdafa8635 Жыл бұрын
London could be interesting between the Roman invasion up to the unification of England as it changed hands a few times during the Viking era. However after that it’s not really worth continuing as it would always be a part of England/Great Britain.
@mrquokka4733
@mrquokka4733 Жыл бұрын
factual factual factual factual factual factual factual factual factual factual factual
@Rubbabandman
@Rubbabandman Жыл бұрын
It’s Constantinople.
@alphacentauri1757
@alphacentauri1757 5 ай бұрын
This is exactly what i was looking for. Thanks!
@abooswalehmosafeer173
@abooswalehmosafeer173 13 күн бұрын
Me too.
@user-ke5le4ks1d
@user-ke5le4ks1d 5 ай бұрын
I think you've summed it up pretty well, thanks.
@Oscar.Carmona
@Oscar.Carmona 6 ай бұрын
I'm amazed at the amount of misinformation on media. Well it should not surprise me. So many look at history since 1900s and don't understand the amount of conflict this land has had. This is an important video! Thank you
@jabber1990
@jabber1990 6 ай бұрын
The middle east has been at war for thousands of years, but people think it's only been an issue since 1917
@-gemberkoekje-5547
@-gemberkoekje-5547 6 ай бұрын
That sounds more like illinformation then disinformation.
@asemyamak3984
@asemyamak3984 6 ай бұрын
Currently ILLEGALY OCCUPIED BY THE ZIONIST STATE. Jews lived there 1300 BCE, but that does not mean they can come now and colonize it! Imagine if descendants of Pharo come and say we want Egypt back, ancient Egypt was ours 2000+ years ago, and now I want my Egypt. INSANE. WHAT IS HAPPENING IS INSANITY
@nikytiky
@nikytiky 6 ай бұрын
@@asemyamak3984 Jews were THERE TILL 636 CE. Only during / after Caliph Umar's invasion... the JEWS were totally driven out of their land. New Temple which was NEVER THERE before... was built on the same destroyed site of the Jewish Temple!!! Usurping somebody's land and religious sites!! IF.... the Pharoh's happen to return and have the required POWER to reclaim their land... give it back... and return to where you belong...to the place from where you started conquering all the adjacent lands...... the Arabian Deserts! Digest it and learn to coexist 'Salaam'fully.
@nikytiky
@nikytiky 6 ай бұрын
@@asemyamak3984 Caliph Umar, Salaudin, Ottomans legally occupied that area?! 😂😂
@HistoryandHeadlines
@HistoryandHeadlines Жыл бұрын
It's amazing how important one city could be to so many people!
@bunglebutts3163
@bunglebutts3163 Жыл бұрын
yes it is!
@goealshafay425
@goealshafay425 Жыл бұрын
Meh Constantinople is More important with much more sieges and alot of cool names
@bunglebutts3163
@bunglebutts3163 Жыл бұрын
@@jeremias-serus israel is committing genocide on the palestinians
@sixxfinga1864
@sixxfinga1864 Жыл бұрын
@@goealshafay425 lmao where . They still fighting for Jerusalem they not fighting for Istanbul
@kingskylandantonio8450
@kingskylandantonio8450 Жыл бұрын
Let's fix it! it should be a Atheist Ohio controlled city. No religion allowed in the city. Why? Because YOU ALL WON'T PLAY NICELY. why ohio? because it's all ohio
@avoidtheherd7066
@avoidtheherd7066 4 ай бұрын
Great history lesson! Much needed. Well done!
@rmclean3
@rmclean3 5 ай бұрын
Just incredibly well done! I am no scholar on all of the transition periods but you did a great job getting into the minutia while still making it relatively high-level and relatable. That is quite a skill.
@SarudeDanstorm
@SarudeDanstorm Жыл бұрын
Going into this video I kindof rolled my eyes at the thought of "yet another KZbin video which would probably devolve into bias", but was pleasantly surprised to see nothing glossed over in early history and a fairly objective view of the whole matter. Well done! Edit: Do not delve into the replies to my comment if you value your sanity. To the commenters, never change.
@Nooticus
@Nooticus Жыл бұрын
You clearly did not know the sheer level of quality regularly found on this channel then!
@SarudeDanstorm
@SarudeDanstorm Жыл бұрын
@@Nooticus Clearly I do not. I've seen a good number of their videos, but this topic in particular I have seen cause pitfalls in many history youtubers before.
@thegamingwolf5612
@thegamingwolf5612 Жыл бұрын
@@SarudeDanstorm how would something like this devolve into bias
@SarudeDanstorm
@SarudeDanstorm Жыл бұрын
@@thegamingwolf5612 Depending on the author's bias, discussion on the ownership or the religion of the Levant usually glosses over the periods of time when it was under a religion they do not like - thus giving the respective periods far less attention and appearing to the audience as unimportant.
@EL-oj6uq
@EL-oj6uq Жыл бұрын
Not really, since it was under Israeli control it was mainly jewish but he made it only have jewish
@who167
@who167 Жыл бұрын
I disagree with the count of the control by religions, I find it inaccurate for the Arab Empire segment. The period of Jerusalem under the Rashidiun till the 1st Crusade was still a mostly Christian city, although under Islamic rule. Jews were banned from the city under Roman law since the Bar Kochba revolt (other than in the brief Persian period), and so the city had a Christian population beforehand. When the Rashidiun conquered the city and the region in general, they did not replace or forcefully convert anyone, rather Jews and Christians ("Ahl al Qitab", people of the book) lived under a set of Islamic laws. In general, after the Arab conquest of this region, the conversion of locals to Islam was particularly slow and not on large scale at all, unlike places such as Persia which converted almost in an instant.
@mustipunyaemail
@mustipunyaemail Жыл бұрын
Why media now tell Islam will force ppl to convert or kill them? Propaganda?
@who167
@who167 Жыл бұрын
@@mustipunyaemail Probably people taking the Islamic State and thinking that they represent all of Islam, although to be fair it was Jews and Christians (and Zoroastrians?) who were not forced to convert, Pagans for example were definitely forced in some places...
@postyoda1623
@postyoda1623 Жыл бұрын
There was no instant conversion in Persia either. First known mosque in Persia was dated to 10th century and until then and even afterwards for many decades, many people known to history from that area didn't have Arabic names. The Caliphates didn't really like when people converted to Islam because this lowered their tax revenue, conversion was mostly a very gradual process of intermingling and absorption.
@getreal3148
@getreal3148 Жыл бұрын
@@postyoda1623 I really can't remember what was the name of the book but I have a memory of reading somewhere e that even untill the 10th century there were a ton of Zoroastrians in Persia, probably a majority
@postyoda1623
@postyoda1623 Жыл бұрын
@@getreal3148 I think you may have "In God's Path" by Robert Hoyland in mind.
@simwyck
@simwyck 4 ай бұрын
Really fascinating to see this figures. It helps to put things in perspective. Thank you for this great work. I'll add French subtitles in Amara.
@JLuisCastaneda
@JLuisCastaneda 6 күн бұрын
I think the take away is that there is no stolen land, but all land has been conquered at least one point in history.
@mabs503
@mabs503 Жыл бұрын
I think it's really interesting that the city has been totally destroyed several times and also most of it's citizens killed, and still it's been rebuilt by new people over and over.
@TheDanEdwards
@TheDanEdwards Жыл бұрын
Anywhere humans have lived for thousands of years has seen wars and replacements of populations.
@nkenchington6575
@nkenchington6575 Жыл бұрын
its citizens
@Yora21
@Yora21 Жыл бұрын
It's just a really good location.
@SplendidFactor
@SplendidFactor Жыл бұрын
I imagine that's what happened to Troy.
@iamfunnyipromise9605
@iamfunnyipromise9605 Жыл бұрын
Jesus said ''The citizens of Jerusalem will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. *Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles* until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled''. Luke 21:24. Recorded by Luke around 60 AD, before the destruction of Jerusalem.
@comb528491
@comb528491 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on the various sects and schisms within Judaism? Especially the second temple period? Also, I would like to know the differences between the rabbinical Judaism and the Pharisees and where they differed in regards to theology (cuz we all know they that Rabbinical Judaism offshooted from the Pharisees Sect, but they weren't identical)
@adrianblake8876
@adrianblake8876 Жыл бұрын
Rabbinical Judaism were the pharisees, at least that is what the texts they produced suggests. Their rival group was called the Sadducees...
@coffeeortea547
@coffeeortea547 Жыл бұрын
Oooo! I wonder if Matt can talk about controversies caused by potential contradictions in the writings of the different authors. On the top of my head, it's more of a Christian schism but it's Old Testament: I wonder if scholars believe Exodus 20:4 to be written by the same author(s) as let's say Exodus 25:18-22. Those seem to be the two most commonly talked about lines in the iconoclast/iconophile thingy.
@marceloorellana5726
@marceloorellana5726 Жыл бұрын
After the Second temple period? It's called Christianity.
@bitkower
@bitkower Жыл бұрын
Sam Aranow has a lot of good videos on Jewish History, definitely covering that period.
@blayzertrayl8929
@blayzertrayl8929 Жыл бұрын
You can ask the same about the various sects and schism within Islam? Which were even more varied and disparate during that entire timeline. Today the Arabs don't even acknowledge the Ottomans. So much so, turkish tv series Ertugal is NOT shown and/or banned in Arab nations. Lol
@mikelikesguitaralot
@mikelikesguitaralot 4 ай бұрын
Based on it's history, I believe it should be one state tolerant of all religions as well as equal representation. In my opinion, the two state solution will alienate people further, and create conflict/boarder wars down the line.
@cunctator3401
@cunctator3401 4 ай бұрын
Muslim rulership solved all the problems,all it took is angloid imperialists to cause years of war
@jaronimo1976
@jaronimo1976 3 ай бұрын
When it's one state, the muhammedans will try to get in power, and dominate over Jews and Christians. If they make one state with Jews and Palestinians, the Palestinians will try to take over. They will try to get more and more children, until they have larger numbers, than marginalise non muhammedans.
@Thumper17
@Thumper17 2 ай бұрын
Jerusalem itself should be a UN administered Neutral city or something. Some sort of Secular council to mediate issues between religious groups.
@Raptor810Blue
@Raptor810Blue 2 ай бұрын
Equal representation wouldn’t happen with an Arab-majority population, because they are by and large anti-democratic.
@MakeEuropaGreatAgain
@MakeEuropaGreatAgain 2 ай бұрын
@@Thumper17 No, that will only work for a short amount of time. The Jews will always claim Jerusalem, it's their most important city, for Christians it is also the holiest city, But we know when Jesus was in Jerusalem it was Jewish so why should we fight the Jews to make it Christian. we could take Jerusalem in 1 day I promise you, but we can never keep it, because the Jews will always want it back and respect for that. We could take it and make it UN Neutral city, but in 200 years there is no UN, paradigms changes, but forever Jerusalem is the Jews's home, you people don't understand this. As an ally of Israel we can only support them, and hope they will be kind to the descendants of those who conquered their home.
@mrcsrkcrz
@mrcsrkcrz 4 ай бұрын
perfect conclusion to the current issue. thank you for the informative video on the history of this piece of land
@HikmaHistory
@HikmaHistory Жыл бұрын
Balian of Ibelin: What is Jerusalem worth? Saladin: Nothing... Everything!
@mahafujrayhan2877
@mahafujrayhan2877 Жыл бұрын
Long live muslim 🇵🇸
@ohadhoffman7078
@ohadhoffman7078 Жыл бұрын
Israel above all 🇮🇱
@latofalshammari2872
@latofalshammari2872 Жыл бұрын
It’s “nothing and everything”… referring to how it’s nothing to the Christians because they were prepared to burn it down rather than give it to the muslims. And how it’s everything for the muslims because they would rather die than see it burn.
@hornerfarah2282
@hornerfarah2282 Жыл бұрын
@@ohadhoffman7078 keep barking
@mugikuyu9403
@mugikuyu9403 Жыл бұрын
Jerusalem belongs to the Jews! I’m not even Jewish but it’s their city originally so why should Arabian Muslims get it when it was founded by Jews and Abraham of monotheism is originally a Jewish concept? Arabs are so envious of Jews it’s actually embarrassing.
@WaiLoon
@WaiLoon 7 ай бұрын
This is BY FAR THE BEST historical & factual presentation of the timeline of Jerusalem. Love all your videos. Please continue your great work. Supporting from the South East Asia, Malaysia 🇲🇾
@freesoul82
@freesoul82 6 ай бұрын
Saya sokong brader
@joaquinpraveenvishnu8509
@joaquinpraveenvishnu8509 6 ай бұрын
I concur!
@asafheller5720
@asafheller5720 6 ай бұрын
Only that is not factual. This info is misleading. The Jebusite tribe were the one living in the region of Jerusalem, their capital was called Jebuse, part of it was occupied the rest Kind David bought with money to build the City of David which later was the site for Solomon Temple since his son finished the construction of the Temple. Israelites always lived in this land they didn't just came from the Exudes in Egypt, the conquest over the land of Canaan specify the name of the tribes they defeated in that time. Arabic as a language evolved much much later with the influence of Yemenite tribe that immigrated to the Petra area which are called Nabataeans, later they returned to the Arabian peninsula influencing the local language forming the Arabic language, this is after the Roman arrival to the region by the way, meaning thousand years before Arabs even knew what Salam means. Phoenician which is the more early form of Hebrew was one of the oldest languages in the region even influencing Greek, evolving parallel to Sumerian which in between the nations had Aramaic from kingdom of Aram, this fake info makes it look like the Arab claims to the city make some sense, Arab's didn't exist outside the Arabian peninsula until the 7th century during the Islamic caliphate occupation, that's common knowledge.
@anthonyrobinson6590
@anthonyrobinson6590 3 ай бұрын
This is so well done!
@bakubread9308
@bakubread9308 6 ай бұрын
I'm glad you counted the Byzantines as the Romans, because while the distinction is important, it'd feel disingeuous to call the direct continuation of the same empire a "different" owner Edit: ware the replies, people here LOVE to pretend that romans aren't romans because their capital city moved
@irdorath356
@irdorath356 6 ай бұрын
Well Latin and Greek is quite the difference. Different people, so how is the "owner" the same?
@tock02
@tock02 6 ай бұрын
@@irdorath356 Well, Greek speaking Romans still consider themselves as Romans. They were the Roman Empire. I guess it would be similar if English speaking Canada were to be conquered by someone but the French speaking area would remain being Canada and their inhabitants would keep feeling and being called Canadian.
@irdorath356
@irdorath356 6 ай бұрын
@@tock02 Well, only the ruling elite had SOME Roman origin, not even all of them. As for the population, it genetically always remained Greek or Eastern or whatever.
@bakubread9308
@bakubread9308 6 ай бұрын
@@irdorath356 the fact is that they referred to themselves as romans, continued every roman institution that was present, etc. it's not like someone came in and conquered the eastern half of the empire and proclaimed themselves romans, it was the same people, the rest of the mediterannean (and the persians, and arabs, and pretty much all subsequent muslims that battled them) considered them the romans as well, until it was more convenient to pretend they weren't romans so they could claim that lineage instead. Ethnicity and Nationality are two entirely different things.
@irdorath356
@irdorath356 6 ай бұрын
@@bakubread9308 pretty much any Germanic tribe resettled on Roman territory called themselves Romans and adopted the Imperial lifestyle. Longbeards an Ostrogoths at least posessed the city of Rome, unlike the Byzantines.
@luochoa
@luochoa Жыл бұрын
AMAZING! This is exactly the video i had been wishing someone did for years! The fact that in the end it was you that did it, with your in-depth research, your unbiased ways of explaining the facts and your truly remarkable way of showing data, is just perfect! Thank you.
@DorfmanDiego
@DorfmanDiego 5 ай бұрын
It was so interesting! The only point that I didn't get was why on your conclusion you talk about a join control of Jerusalem when the administrative control of the city has nothing to do with the religion of its inhabitants (as your explained in the video) ?
@stefanol7803
@stefanol7803 3 ай бұрын
Pretty clear that Jesuralem should not be part of any state but it must become a city state like the vatican where the three relgions can live toghether as it is an holy city for all of them.
@versev0
@versev0 3 ай бұрын
It's still can be holy city except that Israel Jewish have actual military and business around the world unlike vatican
@bigdaddyeddy1252
@bigdaddyeddy1252 3 ай бұрын
Or one can just neglect the Christian‘s and Muslim‘s claim of Jerusalem since their connection to the city is just made up and imperialism driven.
@ems4884
@ems4884 Ай бұрын
Contemporary city states are all de facto protectorates. So what you propose may end up being a distinction without a difference.
@ASlickNamedPimpback
@ASlickNamedPimpback Ай бұрын
except the vatican is a christian-only theocracy...
@user-rt3fb3ox5w
@user-rt3fb3ox5w 10 күн бұрын
Do you really believe in peaceful Islam? I'd prefer to be aware of islamic bashibuzuks which means cutthroaters
@Nooticus
@Nooticus Жыл бұрын
Absolutely excellent video as always! I'm very much looking forward to visiting this great city again in August, B"H, a city that feels very special and magical but yet in some way also terrifying at the same time!
@filosofia_8
@filosofia_8 6 ай бұрын
This is the right time to share this video with the public
@tace_nomercy9274
@tace_nomercy9274 2 ай бұрын
so that we know its the israelis land?
@Vichikuma
@Vichikuma 2 ай бұрын
For some reason he didn't make the Fatimids part of the Arab Empire, though they were arabs. Adding them to the Arab Empire gives it 463 years to Arab political control, making it the 2nd longest political control, under the romans and above the israelites.
@tace_nomercy9274
@tace_nomercy9274 2 ай бұрын
​well, regardless the modern day israelis and palestinians are basically the same people lol. @@Vichikuma
@Vichikuma
@Vichikuma 2 ай бұрын
@@tace_nomercy9274 Israelites are european, so no.
@hunkycody157
@hunkycody157 2 ай бұрын
@@Vichikumano they are not. There are European Jews there as well but some Jews were already there. Palestinian Arabs are from Egypt and Jordan. They literally share the exact same DNA
@sherrylewis6932
@sherrylewis6932 5 ай бұрын
Great video. Interesting how relevant it has become recently. I wish your lists went to 5 instead of 3, to keep some of them on the screen. Proposed idea I heard. Make the city of Jerusalem owned by everyone, i.e. United Nations as a sacred spot for all. The country can still be divided for the peoples living there, but the city belongs to all. An idea.
@waltbroedner4754
@waltbroedner4754 4 ай бұрын
I do not agree, Jerusalem is NOT a great city, it is an example of the grotesque, terrorism, and mass murders commited by religions, nothing to be proud of or celebrated.
@senaozbek8218
@senaozbek8218 2 ай бұрын
UN is a product of the west and all that the west gave the middle east is war, war and more war
@sanjayfgupta2167
@sanjayfgupta2167 5 ай бұрын
Very nicely put. Bravo
@educationagility2729
@educationagility2729 Жыл бұрын
Amazing lesson, you are doing an incredible job educating people.
@rayankhan5025
@rayankhan5025 Жыл бұрын
It's worth noting that when the first Muslims took Jerusalem, they found that the Christians had kicked all of the Jews out. It was the Muslims who actively brought in and re-established Jewish presence because the city was sacred to them as well.
@rimiadoss9792
@rimiadoss9792 Жыл бұрын
Oh 😂
@iaminpain58
@iaminpain58 Жыл бұрын
They be regretting that now 💀
@caniblmolstr4503
@caniblmolstr4503 Жыл бұрын
If you ask any Jew to answer this question objectively they will answer in the same manner Islam or Christianity which is closer to Judaism? The answer would be Islam. The present problems are more political than religious.
@i_likemen5614
@i_likemen5614 Жыл бұрын
Yet zionists love to claim the arabs "colonized" Palestine LOL
@atlasatlantis8447
@atlasatlantis8447 Жыл бұрын
Now the Muslims know why the Christians kicked them out.
@vicrai578
@vicrai578 2 ай бұрын
I would have liked for Jerusalem to become a city-state of its own, where all religions would be represented equally. I think it’s the most symbolic place to try and create such a place where freedom and respect of religion reigns supreme
@jonnymcgrath4816
@jonnymcgrath4816 2 ай бұрын
All religions or just the 3 Abrahamic religions?
@vicrai578
@vicrai578 2 ай бұрын
@@jonnymcgrath4816 All religions. Even though there has only been (mostly) these three religions in control of Jerusalem, there’s few other cities in the world that have seen so much religious conflicts between religions still existing today as a major religion. So Buddhism, Hinduism or Taoism for examplr wouldn’t be excluded either Even though realistically the actual people in the city would probably be mostly just jewish and muslim
@Spadegaming321
@Spadegaming321 2 ай бұрын
Do not let paganism enter Jerusalem 🙏🙏
@bluemist3115
@bluemist3115 Ай бұрын
It was offered with the 2 state solution and Jerusalem being international. but the arabs rejected it. greed and ego is a hell of a thing
@alicequayle4625
@alicequayle4625 Ай бұрын
​@@bluemist3115 the Palestinians say the deal they were offered was crap.
@baddbeliever
@baddbeliever 29 күн бұрын
great job matt as always. THIS is why this city is so special.
@godlessqueertheywarnedyouabout
@godlessqueertheywarnedyouabout Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see Matt create a timeline of the development of the God of the Hebrew Bible/Old Testament, showing when transitions among polytheism, henotheism, monolatry, and monotheism happened, and indicating archaeological evidence for belief in the God of the Jewish people.
@jeffmacdonald9863
@jeffmacdonald9863 Жыл бұрын
Definitely an interesting topic. You get hints of it in the Who Wrote the Bible videos, but there's a lot more to say. And still a lot of questions.
@wannabe_scholar82
@wannabe_scholar82 Жыл бұрын
I think there was more of a shift from monalatry to monotheism and we never really see polytheism or henotheism in the old testament
@smorcrux426
@smorcrux426 Жыл бұрын
That is a subject we know notoriously little about, and apart for the (obviously *extremely* biased) Bible we have literally no other sources until after monotheism was already entrenched. I doubt we'll ever be able to know as much as we'd like to about ancient Jewish religion and practices, since archeology can only tell us so much.
@wannabe_scholar82
@wannabe_scholar82 Жыл бұрын
@@smorcrux426 true but still we have remnants in the text bc although later Jewish authors and Bible editors tried to make it seem like strict monotheism it would be impossible to cover up. but we see that they at least believed other gods existed contrary to the strictly monotheistic approach we later see in the Bible
@jeffmacdonald9863
@jeffmacdonald9863 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, there are definitely some traces in the earlier layers of the Hebrew Bible and some more information from archeology. I think we can make at least some good assumptions.
@lovingthewings69
@lovingthewings69 Жыл бұрын
Dude says "who do you think should control Jerusalem in the future? Comment below!". Can't wait to see how that turns out.
@msicvbes4977
@msicvbes4977 Жыл бұрын
Why would he ask something so controversial? Considering that Jerusalem today already belongs in a country and an attempt to change that would definitely lead to war.
@VampireHub616
@VampireHub616 Жыл бұрын
@@msicvbes4977 why not just seek the kingdom not of this world.
@fboi236
@fboi236 Жыл бұрын
@@msicvbes4977 Well the Israeli too did just that, through war too.
@pelinalwhitestrake3367
@pelinalwhitestrake3367 Жыл бұрын
Jerusalem will belong to Israel as long as Israel has USA as it's ally. You know, having a world superpower as an ally is a big deal.
@cv4809
@cv4809 Жыл бұрын
@@pelinalwhitestrake3367 except Iran, no other neighboring country can seriously threaten Israel, whether it's allied to US or not
@cotzker
@cotzker 5 ай бұрын
Jerusalem was called "Yeru-Shalem" by David not because of Canaanite gods, but because the Hebrew spelling "Shalem" is whole. A thousand years later, its name was changed to yerushalaim to hint at the duality of the city. one physical and one spiritual
@CRMxx1995
@CRMxx1995 Ай бұрын
Matt Bakers reign over the holy city is undefeated in the act of Charts . 👊🏼🤘🏼✌🏼💪🏼
@SimpleHumman
@SimpleHumman Жыл бұрын
This was really insightful, thank you for presenting, I get the timelines mixed up a lot, constantly going back to sites like this to see it in a new and refreshing way. Thank you. (I also buy a chart everyone once in a while as they are really awesome to have.)
@Andrea-Marie
@Andrea-Marie Жыл бұрын
What a great analysis. What a wonderful overview and timeline. Thank you very much, indeed. Greetings from Austria.
@jameswohlgemuth1421
@jameswohlgemuth1421 5 ай бұрын
Great job
@marymorgan8335
@marymorgan8335 5 ай бұрын
I thought you did a good job...l know a lot about the history of Greece and Rome, and l am basing my judgment on how you treated that portion of history. To me, this makes clear that a two-state solution is needed or conflict will be endless. Two-state may not solve these seemingly endless disputes, but l can't think of any solution with a better chance for some kind of peace, reflective of the name of the city.
@vespid8960
@vespid8960 2 ай бұрын
Actually this proves to me there needs to be 1 state, as having 2 will always lead to war
@Howie672
@Howie672 Жыл бұрын
I think you did great, let’s give Jerusalem to the Buddhist for a while ;)
@thel.e.sfamily3281tchcaf
@thel.e.sfamily3281tchcaf 6 ай бұрын
WTF😂?
@johnking6252
@johnking6252 6 ай бұрын
I agree then maybe the Hindu religion, or some Sikh dudes , hell even scientologists ? Then some aboriginal group. 👍🙏
@usernamenotfound200
@usernamenotfound200 6 ай бұрын
Indian religions are not interested in your sacred and cursed place called Jerusalem😂
@DeshCanter
@DeshCanter 6 ай бұрын
So then the Chinese get it?
@JackDawn939
@JackDawn939 6 ай бұрын
Good idea! 🎉 But, what branch of Buddhism? Theravada, Mahayana or Vajrayana? 😁
@ninjason57
@ninjason57 Жыл бұрын
Before even watching this video im super excited to see this put together by you! Im reading through the Hebrew Bible and sometimes have a hard time keeping track of all the kings names, especially when they were renamed by other kings.
@GeliceP
@GeliceP 5 ай бұрын
I really appreciate for breakdown.. it seems very detailed
@user-iq4bh7xl4x
@user-iq4bh7xl4x 5 ай бұрын
Well done. Very detailed study.
@luisc.3215
@luisc.3215 6 ай бұрын
Excellent! Seeing it now, when all seems to be blowing (Oct 23). It helped tremendously to keep the record straight. I had a general idea, but missing important info, and of course no idea of the precie account. Thank you very much!
@tarkitarker0815
@tarkitarker0815 6 ай бұрын
its vastly inaccurate. the first settlement around the euphrat was more than 10000 bce, why should jerusalem be settled so late?
@TheBreadPirate
@TheBreadPirate 6 ай бұрын
I'm glad you didn't treat it as a competition to control the city longest. Your conclusion made a lot of sense!
@davidwebber8454
@davidwebber8454 6 ай бұрын
The analysis was fantastic and completely unbiased. On the question on who should be in control, my question is what point in history do we go back to? Should the Romans or Italians be put back in control? Treaties that try to go back in history and remake a country have failed miserably throughout history with the biggest failure of all time being the Treaty of Versailles that tried this exact same thing and has caused ten of millions of deaths. Why does the world care that the Jewish people are given a tiny strip of land of really no importance. The Palestinians have no claim to the land and why doesn’t Saudi Arabia, Jordan or Syria give them some land.
@Bubba___
@Bubba___ 6 ай бұрын
“Treaties that try to go back in history and remake a country have failed miserably throughout history…” I agree with this, but you then contradict yourself by saying the Palestinians have no claim to the land. How does that make sense? Who *does* have a claim to the land? The vast majority of Israelis are descended from Europeans who colonized Israel after WW2. The Palestinians are not. Who do you think has a “claim” on the land if you think that: 1. “Treaties that create historical nations fail miserably”… and: 2. “The Palestinians have no claim on the land” It seems you don’t think either should live in the Levant?? “Why does the world care that the Jewish people are given a tiny strip of land of really no importance.” Well, apparently you should considering you stated that treaties that attempt to re-create historical states “have failed miserably.” “why doesn’t Saudi Arabia, Jordan or Syria give them some land.” What? Why? Why would a foreign country give people of another country land?? How does that make any sense? It isn’t the fault of those nations that the West Bank (the majority of de jure Palestinian territory) has been illegaly occupied by Israel since 1967. “On the question on who should be in control, my question is what point in history do we go back to?“ Well, we don’t have to answer that as it was decided in 1948. If our predecessors had gone about the creation of the modern state of Israel in a competent way then the situation in the region might not be so turbulent. Although, extreme zionism and Israeli colonization of Palestine as well as Islamic terrorism also deserve much of the blame. Calling the land of Israel and Palestine “a tiny strip of land of really no importance“ severely downplays the religious and cultural importance the area has had for followers of Abrahamic religions for millennia. Judaism + Islam = good, can co-exist peacefully Zionism, colonization + Islamic terrorism = bad, will cause unending warfare
@snuffeldjuret
@snuffeldjuret 6 ай бұрын
@@Bubba___ I dunno, isn't the area trending towards peaceful? That is what it looks like to me. Maybe not in the 1000 year perspective, but looking at the last 75 it seems to cool down.
@rihamashraf4493
@rihamashraf4493 6 ай бұрын
​@@davidwebber8454the Canaanites, Philistines and the first Arab tribes who lived there centuries before prophet 1braham even born and moved to it whom modern Palestinians are the decedents so ur claims are false only ppl who have the right to claim this land are the modern Palestinians livin there for centuries who are mvslims, J3ws and Chr1stians who are the decedents of th0s3 Canaanites and 2 tribes of ppl m0vin there I mentioned not the European j3ws who's ancestors are European k1cked from their countries and f0rcibly st3alin their land and that's the only truth here
@Philalethes101
@Philalethes101 6 ай бұрын
​@@rihamashraf4493which first Arab tribe are you talking about? From which history book?
@steedeleven4353
@steedeleven4353 5 ай бұрын
Thx. I enjoyed the way you put this together very easy to follow for someone like me who gets lost in timelines and where things fit into the whole spectrum. What I conclude out of this is that Jerusalim was basically invaded and taken over buy so many cultures etc that who can really lay claim to it. Every country has pretty much been taken over by someone in one way or another and cultural influences and religions come and take over changing that regions local culture etc forever. We just need to learn to live together as we roll through space on this massive rock while slowly destroying it.
@khuramali9146
@khuramali9146 4 ай бұрын
Can Russia claim Ukraine then? Or the native Indians claim USA from 300 years ago? The last 900 years, the Muslims were there. Muslims can lay claim to it if we go by the standards of Europeans. It’s not even a close call. Muslims always let the Jewish and the Christian populations carry on living and practicing there religion in Jerusalem. (Unlike the Christian’s, Jewish people and many pagans). I’m sure Muslims would continue to let the Jewish and Cheistian people practice their faith their if they were fully in control now. But the Zionist government is so everything is a bit of a mess. Anyway….all will become clear one day for everyone. I’m sure of it.
@steedeleven4353
@steedeleven4353 4 ай бұрын
How is this relevant when the jews where there before the Muslims so going by what you say then they have more rights to the land than the muslims @@khuramali9146
@JAHtony1111
@JAHtony1111 3 ай бұрын
Great vid. Thanks.
@imperialfish454
@imperialfish454 Жыл бұрын
Very cool chart, and interesting to see the history of the city! I was surprised by the final count. Have you considered doing any videos on the Cossacks? I know the eastern regions of Ukraine have changed hands a bit (and of course, a lot of stuff about that recently).
@XyzgorYT
@XyzgorYT Жыл бұрын
Seconded, very interesting topic.
@carbocationful
@carbocationful Жыл бұрын
Delhi
@Tytoalba777
@Tytoalba777 Жыл бұрын
I think an interesting video to do would be "Who would be Caliph today?" following some of the main lines of successions: Ali's Dynasty through Hasan, Ali's Dynasty through Husayn and Musa al-kadhim, the Umayyads, the Abbasids, the Fatimids, and the Ottomans. Some of these would be pretty easy, but I think others would be extremely difficult, or at least interesting. Where'd the Abbasids go, and the Umayyads and Fatimids?
@Hussain.535
@Hussain.535 Жыл бұрын
Will bro the caliph system in it's first days didn't have to do anything near blood line it was election conceal give a certain name and if people like ok if people didn't they go for another name will until the Umayyad came and they miss it up and make it blood related thing
@muhammadHassan-kj1jy
@muhammadHassan-kj1jy Жыл бұрын
This has a lot of potential
@porsche911sbs
@porsche911sbs Жыл бұрын
Harun Osman is the current head of the Ottoman dynasty. The other caliphates are more complicated because they weren't necessarily hereditary but were instead controlled by clans.
@karimmezghiche9921
@karimmezghiche9921 Жыл бұрын
The Caliphate isn't hereditary, whoever the Muslim agree upon should be Caliph
@fanboiInc.
@fanboiInc. Жыл бұрын
The caliphate isn't a royal family or "kingdom" Ummah (practicing Muslims) will decide who will be the caliph.
@KR-zf2us
@KR-zf2us 17 күн бұрын
Amazing! Hope to see something like this on a map for the whole world!
@tenmiltenmil1770
@tenmiltenmil1770 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to make this wonderful and informative video ! I learned so much ! Now I have just one wish and that is that all these divided people finally make peace . Life is too short to be spending it on hatred and wars ! 😔😔😔😢😢😢 PEACE ☮️
@ewanhopper4275
@ewanhopper4275 Жыл бұрын
I took a class in college specifically on the city of Jerusalem, we read Jerusalem besieged and the list of conflicts over Jerusalem takes up the first 3 whole pages
@donnafesmire1513
@donnafesmire1513 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your KZbin content. Thank you for making it you do a great job!
@rexkarma4645
@rexkarma4645 2 ай бұрын
very informative and interesting video. thank you
@1milWithout1is0
@1milWithout1is0 5 ай бұрын
Archeologist David Rohl has a great documentary on how the timeline might be incorrect and the Exodus story took place over 200 years earlier on the main egyptian timeline. Highly recommend.
@helenamcginty4920
@helenamcginty4920 5 ай бұрын
Trouble is many archaeologists question the whole exodus story either in part or whole. I have seen one suggestion that the ancient Israelites had taken over part of the delta area and were driven out by a resurgent pharonic dynasty. Vague memories of an oriental institute lecture. 😊
@1milWithout1is0
@1milWithout1is0 5 ай бұрын
@@helenamcginty4920 thank you for your reply! I will be looking into that, I really appreciate it! 😊
@mikehunt576
@mikehunt576 5 ай бұрын
@@helenamcginty4920 what about those websites that claim the exodus took place in Saudi Arabia? whats that about
@Pmooli
@Pmooli 5 ай бұрын
​@@helenamcginty4920they most likely colonized elephantine in upper Egypt. The exodus might have been up the nile to Ethiopia and through Yemen
@abumefak2
@abumefak2 4 ай бұрын
Exodus was a fairy tale
@atlashistorical
@atlashistorical Жыл бұрын
step 1 - grab popcorn step 2 - sort by newest step 3 - enjoy the show
@mmbudny
@mmbudny Жыл бұрын
Claims over the city by adherents of a religion (there are three here) imply a need for exclusivity, when in fact this is a city that is important to all three religions, and one would hope that each would respect the others' historical and cultural ties to the city. It is clear that all would benefit from a peaceful sharing arrangement.
@BasedKungFu
@BasedKungFu Жыл бұрын
It would be a lot easier if all 3 faiths required that the other faiths be incorrect.
@Helga7850
@Helga7850 Жыл бұрын
The difference between us Christians and Muslims is that Muslims want to appropriate a city, stealing its history and roots from the city itself. The evidence is that no Muslim has ever called this city "Jerusalem", its real name, but they call it Al-Quds. We Christians call it Jerusalem because we don't claim its ownership. It's not ours. It's a place where our Gospels took place,...nothing else...but Christianity is in the hearts of Christians ...not in a city...that's why the apostles went throughout Greece, Italy to evangelize.
@jacobn2461
@jacobn2461 Жыл бұрын
Wow I bet they never thought of a sharing agreement🤯
@mmbudny
@mmbudny Жыл бұрын
@@jacobn2461 Of course that proposal has been raised. But it would take an act of political courage and complete trust to make it happen, something that seems to be lacking by all parties.
@aguyfromnothere
@aguyfromnothere Жыл бұрын
They are doing that right now….
@waltbroedner4754
@waltbroedner4754 4 ай бұрын
When a book claims that stopping the sun in the sky will prevent the night from happening on earth, you can pretty much conclude that the book is not very accurate and therefore anything else in it is in considerable doubt.
@KristinaIsUpset
@KristinaIsUpset 2 ай бұрын
honestly the only conclusion i can draw from this is that, no matter who controls it or what solution is drawn up, it wont last for long
@NardDog91
@NardDog91 7 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this video! Would love to see more of these on some other historical cities.
@thomasdixon4373
@thomasdixon4373 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, it's amazing to truly see how important the city was
@giladwasheretravel3553
@giladwasheretravel3553 Жыл бұрын
*still is
@thomasdixon4373
@thomasdixon4373 Жыл бұрын
@@giladwasheretravel3553 yes that is true, didn't mean to use past tense
@CbI4
@CbI4 5 ай бұрын
you also need to make chart of who lived there
@xZelt
@xZelt 3 күн бұрын
and they had sucha headstart aswell, absolutely mogged
@mekelius
@mekelius Жыл бұрын
Here's an idea: You could do academic genealogies! That would be super interesting. And could be a nice look into some history of science.
@user-iv4eq2nt5i
@user-iv4eq2nt5i 6 ай бұрын
If all KZbin video creators spent this much effort on their videos, we'd all be geniuses.
@deep6301
@deep6301 4 ай бұрын
Thank you Matt
@lizstratton9689
@lizstratton9689 4 ай бұрын
Very informative and good way of opening up discussions on the current situation regarding the war against Palestine. I always find it sad that the people who are forgotten in all this are the local peasant, those who survived and stayed, the common workers.
@jijidebuyan7416
@jijidebuyan7416 6 ай бұрын
Now I understand where these conflicts rose thank you for the very comprehensive explanaition.
@BobHutton
@BobHutton Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the fascinating overview. I was familiar with most of the content, but to have it presented in this different, yet clear and concise, manner helps in gluing together the bits of history floating in my memory. I have no (significant) Middle Eastern heritage, and so am not inclined to venture my own opinion on how the area should be governed. It would be good if those that do have a say in such things could be as informed and level-headed as Matt appears to be.
@Monkeyboy707
@Monkeyboy707 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think you can deny the nation of Israel sole claim of the city, seeing as it was founded by their ancestors for them
@BobHutton
@BobHutton Жыл бұрын
@@Monkeyboy707 The oldest peoples we know of in Jerusalem were the Canaanites. This was well before there was a group that historians refer to as the Proto-Israelites (the precursors of the Israelites from biblical times). I don't know that there is any modern group we can identify as the descendants of the Canaanites. The next group we know of that controlled Jerusalem was the Egyptians. So, by the principle you espouse, maybe we should give control of Jerusalem to Egypt. (I'm sure that would solve everything).
@charles5a
@charles5a Жыл бұрын
@@BobHutton Obviously the descendants of the people who lived in that area are broadly the people now living in that area. Languages, religions and names change over thousands of years, and new generic add mixtures included, but these are the same people. That shouldn't come as a surprise. Frankly, I find the relevance of who controlled or founded a city thousands of years ago quite stupid. This has no relevance to people's right to self determination.
@BobHutton
@BobHutton Жыл бұрын
@@charles5a I'm not sure that it is obvious. Migrations and ethnic cleansings have occurred throughout recorded history. But I do agree, the issue of who established or controlled the city thousands of years ago is of little relevance as to how the city would best be controlled now. (Hence my previous tongue-in-cheek suggestion).
@Handle0108
@Handle0108 Жыл бұрын
@@BobHutton exactly, but a lot of Zionists would try to argue for control of all of Palestine(the entire region) just because of some events 2000 years ago, while also ignoring the millennia of Islamic rule in the city and the current reality of most of the people of Palestine being Muslim and not Jewish.
@ianhusbands-pe9by
@ianhusbands-pe9by 5 ай бұрын
A beautiful documentary, the city can be controlled by a joint committee by all three religion with the chairman rotate at a specific period by each religions
@zenalsham7977
@zenalsham7977 5 ай бұрын
The owners are the people who live in it generation after generation regardless of the authority that ruled them
@win-vapitsc34
@win-vapitsc34 Жыл бұрын
This Channel is so good, addictive and worthy of binging all its contents.
@gryphon1six801
@gryphon1six801 6 ай бұрын
Great video and totally agree with your summary and conclusion!
@bratzoc1785
@bratzoc1785 3 ай бұрын
Well you forgot to add that the Canaanties control the lands for (est) 600 years before Egypt arrived
@mgsberlin5067
@mgsberlin5067 5 ай бұрын
Great job. I like this play with numbers. But let me ask a single question: If a thief robs your juwel and hold it more years then you, isn't it your juwel anymore?
@bonniewatson7720
@bonniewatson7720 3 ай бұрын
Was it ever yours alone?
@mgsberlin5067
@mgsberlin5067 3 ай бұрын
No, it wasn't mine, but it belonged to the founders, it was conquered by strangers @@bonniewatson7720
@rbimastro9772
@rbimastro9772 Жыл бұрын
Jerusalem is a terrible place. I visited as a pilgrim but instead of feeling closer to god all I felt was hopelessness for Mankind. You can feel the animosity on every street. The blood spilt in an effort to control that city 🤯.
@ou6775
@ou6775 6 ай бұрын
By who primarily?
@immers2410
@immers2410 6 ай бұрын
As an ex Muslim, I found Santiago de Compostela to be spiritually uplifting
@Noah-qp6oe
@Noah-qp6oe 6 ай бұрын
I’ve been twice and it was great, don’t know when you went??
@sasast6075
@sasast6075 6 ай бұрын
So what you felt is the absence of God but that felling is also important
@christineperez7562
@christineperez7562 6 ай бұрын
What? It's a beautiful city. I call BS.
@ezra7088
@ezra7088 Жыл бұрын
This was an interesting video. As a Jew, I appreciate you mentioning the Palestinians at the end and giving Jews and Muslims both years, as this was glossed over at my Jewish school and would not have been mentioned. I agree that the history is an important factor, but I think what is happening there now is what is most important in deciding a solution. I think a one state solution where all religions were accepted and everyone had places of worship would be the most ideal, but this may not be possible. In that case, I would want a two state solution, between Palestine and Israel, and one unlike today's where Palestinians are treated as second class citizens
@comb528491
@comb528491 Жыл бұрын
It should be important to note that the main reason why Palestinians have historically opposed the so-called "two-state solution" it's because that the bare minimum requirement for Palestinians is the right to return to whichever homes they were driven out from, wherever they may be. The 2SS would simply draw a line in the map and say that Palestinians are allowed to return to their homes in one side of those lines, but another half of the Palestinian population will not be able to return to their homes and that other part of the land. And we must remember, every Palestinian is an individual human, and each individual has their own idea of home.
@ezra7088
@ezra7088 Жыл бұрын
@@comb528491 yes, there's also the double standard where Jews are allowed to return to homes they or their recent ancestors were kicked out of and Palestinians are not given that same right
@mr.cannedble9724
@mr.cannedble9724 Жыл бұрын
@Andrew doesn't Palestinians accepted jews when they got kick by European in early age migration..there's a evidence that jews using Palestine passport in that time
@koyba3747
@koyba3747 Жыл бұрын
The problem with the Palestinians and Israelis is the leadership otherwise they could probably live together in peace
@bigfo2629
@bigfo2629 Жыл бұрын
are you a fake white Jew from Europe or Semitic.
@ashleyladner7620
@ashleyladner7620 2 ай бұрын
When you said, "Do you like books," I thought you sounded like Levar Burton!
@Glaciuxx
@Glaciuxx 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your videos wanted to ask you 2 questions. Did the Phoenicians ever control Jerusalem or were they just canaanites? Did the Israelite people originate in Mesopotamia?
@MrJosyph
@MrJosyph Жыл бұрын
This is so good and such a fair and objective analysis. I am really impressed.
@RohYesusterimakasih
@RohYesusterimakasih 7 ай бұрын
But he is making fun in Israel’s generation, while his previous videos said Israelíes are from Father Abraham the man who owner of all things, The land is belong to cannanites but God gave it to Abraham-Isaac-Jacob/Israel. And now is Belong tho Israel’s generation. The Jerusalem is belong to King David and the place of temple is the place that the Abraham almost kill his son but the Lord appear and said from now on, you are the father of everything that I make up. So that place is called Salem And is now Jerusalem God bless you Israel Bless be upon those who bless you And be curse upon those who Curse Israel
@UnknownZax9oiooa8
@UnknownZax9oiooa8 6 ай бұрын
1) the calculations are not correct for Jews rule and inhabitance of the land according to biblical sources Judges(rulers of Jews) ruled Israel for 400 years before the first King of Jews - Saul ruled 40 years that is 900 BC then - you should straight away add 400 years to JEWS( because now Jerusalem is part of ISRAEL - PALASTINE kingdome has more countries including ISREAL) 2) Christians always claim that Jerusalem and ISRAEL belong JEWS - that includes 500 years of Christian rule to JEWS, Christian Bible, says Abrahama is father of Christians. The Bible says to bless Jerusalem. now you need to add total 1000+ years to JEWS. == total 2200 years for JEWS. 3) What is the need for Muhamad to claim Jerusalem in his Quran? it belongs to JEWS 1500+ years already; in Quran Muhamad repeatedly told Allah gave the Torah to JEWS, Muhammad tried to take the essence of JEWS history to ISLAM, and Muhammad repeatedly included Jesus as a Muslim sent by Allah - this is PURE evil starts from here. So I condemn this stealing - Jewish's legacy and their land and their consecrated places; Muhammad tried to steal - Jesus Christ and his legacy by making him as A-ll-ah's messenger; M-u-ha-mad is the trouble maker, the whole violence in the world - the father fo J1HAD1S; just get ridd of his book, peace will come.
@StanbyMode
@StanbyMode 6 ай бұрын
@@UnknownZax9oiooa8Christians persecuted, massacred and genocided Jews, Muslims never did any of that, they let the Jews back into Jerusalem after the Byzantines kicked them out
@StanbyMode
@StanbyMode 6 ай бұрын
@@UnknownZax9oiooa8also muslims also say that Jerusalem belongs to Jews, thats why we let them back in, while you guys and the romans before you tried to exile them out
@rexrice7016
@rexrice7016 6 ай бұрын
​@@UnknownZax9oiooa8the KJV bible is not a reliable source for historical information
@karililjendal
@karililjendal Жыл бұрын
This video was very well made. Information is precise and concise. Awesome job!
@abigailskatz
@abigailskatz 4 ай бұрын
If we're using the Bible as a historical source, I'm curious why you started counting from the reign of David and not from the conquest of Joshua, which would have added several hundred years to the "Judaism" tally. Thanks for a great video!
@aegis408
@aegis408 2 ай бұрын
Because there are no records to suggest a Jewish exodus from Egypt, nor is there evidence to suggest Joshua’s conquest of Jericho. The story of the Exodus is false because the Israelites always lived in Canaan alongside the Canaanites. Sorry to break it to you
@hdhdhjhehehej-db9vm
@hdhdhjhehehej-db9vm 2 ай бұрын
Not exactly. There are a lot of points that prove the exodus is based on reality. Just not like the Bible says.
@analuciagenessanche9986
@analuciagenessanche9986 Ай бұрын
@@aegis408 She said using the bible as a historical source
@mattk791
@mattk791 Ай бұрын
@@aegis408Leave it to some guy on youtube to tell you what happened. Rather than a 3,000 year old collection of testimony. Let me tell you something very important: A lack of history from one nation does not discredit a surplus of evidence from another nation. Especially since the Jews, I dare to say, are the only group of people in the middle east to have survived from ancient times to present day. The egyptians are gone, the persians are gone, the babylonians are gone, the assyrians are gone, the phillistines are gone, the Hittites are gone, and the list goes on. Their records left abandoned or destroyed.
@ayzmalo5553
@ayzmalo5553 Ай бұрын
there is some archaelogical evidence crediting David's existence but not Joshua's existence
@abooswalehmosafeer173
@abooswalehmosafeer173 13 күн бұрын
No place for any Greediness nor lust for power therefore as the sun shines for everyone so Jerusalem too ought to be shared equitably. Very helpful and useful.I have been trying to wrap my mind around this topics but has been faltering and Floundering.With this framework I can proceed to navigate through Jerusalem by Montefiore.
@Salsaman34
@Salsaman34 6 ай бұрын
This is great video enlightening the history of Jerusalem in an objective way! Many thanks.
@earlysda
@earlysda 6 ай бұрын
You didn't catch the narrator contradicting himself between about 4:20 - 4:35?
@TitaniusAnglesmith
@TitaniusAnglesmith 6 ай бұрын
@@earlysda How so? He said the story is literally false but may have been inspired by real events. Are you fluent in english?
@mytoll6529
@mytoll6529 6 ай бұрын
@@earlysda BASED. on events
@earlysda
@earlysda 6 ай бұрын
@@TitaniusAnglesmithAnglesmith, "There not too much we can know about this city between the years 2000 and 1000BCE...The only thing that be safely assumed about this period is that the city was likely under the control of the Egyptian new kingdom...because we know that the Egyptians controlled most of the Levant during those years." . Thus, he contradicts himself. . Then he gleefully talks about how that basically negates what the Holy Bible says. . He needs to repent of his denigration of the holy words of God, and refrain from contradicting himself in the future. .
@TitaniusAnglesmith
@TitaniusAnglesmith 6 ай бұрын
@@earlysda None of that is a contradiction. The bible is wrong. Might want to look up the dictionary definition of the word, but seeing as you presumably think the bible is accurate, a book with truth in it must be witchery.
@wildliferox2
@wildliferox2 6 ай бұрын
That was actually a very good summary of the history of Jerusalem for an outsider like myself. Lots of information in a short and concise narrative. Thanks very much. I will have to look at what you have to say for other cities/nations in the region including Egypt which has a similar story to tell.
@EntryLevelLuxury
@EntryLevelLuxury 6 ай бұрын
Most every region has a history of conquest and migration for various reasons.
@lyndaanneshop
@lyndaanneshop 6 ай бұрын
No it wasn't! It was pure propaganda trying to justify a "two state" "SOLUTION" what a disgusting word choice. What we see is some maybe archeological vague evidence of a people group named Judahites maybe controlled the land for 400 years some 2500 years ago and therefore have equal claim to it as the people who have been there steadily for some 1300 years? Unless you are ready to move out of your home and return it to the people who lived there 2500 years ago you'd better wake up and think this bullshit through. This is pure mind fuckery.
@loislewis5229
@loislewis5229 5 ай бұрын
I saw this video a year ago and found it so informative that I’m watching again.
@DelbertCook-zp4uv
@DelbertCook-zp4uv 5 ай бұрын
Fact Check * KJV Bible * Clean the DIRT off of Your KJV Bible and Start Studying What it Teaches!
@Alexandra_Hill
@Alexandra_Hill 5 ай бұрын
@@DelbertCook-zp4uv sooooo funny...
@mustafaayash733
@mustafaayash733 5 ай бұрын
You are missing a very important piece of information here! The city of Jerusalem was established by the Cannanes 4500BC and named after their king ايروشاليم 3500 years of the history of ancient canon the real indigenous people of the land if we don’t start from the beginning we would have incomplete picture of what happened in this land.
@shaikatz3816
@shaikatz3816 4 ай бұрын
The problem with your idea is that the canaanite people no longer exist. Of the ancient groups mentioned in this video, the only one who still exist in modern history are the Jews, which gives them the longest ties to the land of any people who currently exist.
@nugrohomuhtarif2887
@nugrohomuhtarif2887 5 күн бұрын
​@@shaikatz3816Palestinians are descendants of Cannanes. They're not 100% Arab
@ionidhunedoara1491
@ionidhunedoara1491 5 күн бұрын
If you are to call Palestinians Canaanite indigenous then you invalidate the ahl al bayt lineage of many who claim Said, companions of the prophet, bedouin lineage and descent from Khalid ibn al Walid- a Hejazi. Not to mention those Husseini who are Asiri. One cannot have it both ways.
@kingnova6408
@kingnova6408 3 ай бұрын
Maybe the real Jerusalem was the friends we made along the way
@Wallyworld30
@Wallyworld30 6 ай бұрын
It's wild how relevant this video has become and honestly important with all the misinformation being spread on Social Media. You do important work in this case you could say "Gods Work". Thank you.
@skarhabekgreyrukh8601
@skarhabekgreyrukh8601 6 ай бұрын
can you tell me what kind of "all the misinformation being spread on Social Media. " ?
@Wallyworld30
@Wallyworld30 6 ай бұрын
@@skarhabekgreyrukh8601 I won't waste my time because your question alone tells me you gobble that shit up with a spoon.
@mytoll6529
@mytoll6529 6 ай бұрын
@@skarhabekgreyrukh8601 if we did we would be doing nothing with the rest of ours lives
@bwolos
@bwolos 6 ай бұрын
​@ADSHYN the misinformation that Jerusalem belongs and should belong to palestinian colonizers, which is false. Even more so if we are talking about gazans, who were never in Jerusalem, and were not for thousands of years.
@tuxtitan780
@tuxtitan780 6 ай бұрын
​@bwolos when are yall gonna realize that both Jews and Palestinians have valid claims to the area? Just fucking stop killing each other, live next to each other as neighbors, peacefully. I know that's idealistic and unrealistic of me to want, but for the life of me I cannot figure out why it's such a radical and unlikely idea/ outcome
@samOO-wx6mc
@samOO-wx6mc 7 ай бұрын
Incredibly well written & researched video
@AMA2much
@AMA2much 5 ай бұрын
I dream of a secular state where Jews, Muslims, Christians live in harmony and freely allow each other to practice their religion and access their respective holy sites. I was stunned to find that many Gazans haven't even been to Jerusalem before. Free those people man!
@fernandoperez8587
@fernandoperez8587 9 күн бұрын
Muslims will not allow it.
@AMA2much
@AMA2much 9 күн бұрын
​@@fernandoperez8587 Except what I described existed before zionism was created. Even after that Christians and Muslims co-existed in Palestine for years. zionism is a disease and disruptor peace.
@marekrozkowski1786
@marekrozkowski1786 2 күн бұрын
Overall, you did a good job with allocating time slots for different religions and powers. Maybe not enough time allotted to ancient Egypt
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