Who counts as a speaker of a language? | Anna Babel | TEDxOhioStateUniversity

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@ahmetmuratcelik6806
@ahmetmuratcelik6806 4 жыл бұрын
I think the answer is: If you don't need to translate in your mind while you're speaking, if you FEEL that language, you're speaker of that language. It is very interesting because it's not enough to listen and read perfectly, but also you should be able to speak (or product something in that language) really really good. That means you can watch movies without subtitles while you're not a speaker of that language.
@krissygo3
@krissygo3 4 жыл бұрын
I’m a native English speaker, and I still have difficulty differentiating words. I almost always watch film with subtitles on.
@aylbdrmadison1051
@aylbdrmadison1051 4 жыл бұрын
If you think can in a language, then you're a _"speaker"_ of that language. Some people do this with more than one language. In fact, this is intrinsic to learning a language well. I'm learning some very basic Spanish, and still there are jokes some tell me that I just don't understand because I can't think in Spanish yet.
@ahmetmuratcelik6806
@ahmetmuratcelik6806 4 жыл бұрын
@@aylbdrmadison1051 Yes, this is exactly what i meant to say.
@funnyhour101
@funnyhour101 4 жыл бұрын
@@aylbdrmadison1051 sometimes jokes are a cultural thing. Don't be so hard on yourself
@alanknight4003
@alanknight4003 4 жыл бұрын
Aylbdr Madison !Minoan Civilization
@francescogreggio6712
@francescogreggio6712 4 жыл бұрын
This raises some very interesting points. In language teaching, race and cultural background are often considered important factors in how one learns a new language, but this is the first time I hear them being considered a factor also in how one's proficiency is perceived by others. It's a point that deserves looking into.
@christopherharris6467
@christopherharris6467 2 жыл бұрын
I u lthe the same one ☝️ l is llis plto lI
@alineteixeira8569
@alineteixeira8569 4 жыл бұрын
Excelent! Thank you Professor and thanks TED for that speech. I know what your're talking about, I'm brazilian and I have lived for a while at the US (California), at Italy and for years in France; and also as a portuguese native speaker, I know how the accent, slang, idiomatic expressions and so counts on the evaluation people make from each other, including myself, sure. The difference is, when we have lived abroad we know how subtile could be the use of a language and how we can judge and be judged for it. It´s important to think about it!
@christyjoseph3288
@christyjoseph3288 4 жыл бұрын
What you have told about Social Categorising is superb. It destroys lives of people in multiple ways. Clearly language is one of them. Superb Work.
@giga84
@giga84 4 жыл бұрын
You should come to Luxembourg where most people speak between 3 and 5 languages! :) Great conference!
@deborabowlin8950
@deborabowlin8950 4 жыл бұрын
sounds so interersting
@StevenSenjaya
@StevenSenjaya 4 жыл бұрын
I am Indonesian and last night I dreamed about sth in full English. I feel like I am an English speaker already 😅
@johnkellett7797
@johnkellett7797 3 жыл бұрын
Are you learning English, American English or some other variant?
@StevenSenjaya
@StevenSenjaya 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnkellett7797 I would say American English because most KZbinrs that I watch are mostly Americans
@johnkellett7797
@johnkellett7797 3 жыл бұрын
@@StevenSenjaya That's a pity. English is much richer than the poor copies of it such as American English :-) On holiday in Sweden nobody would let me attempt to speak Swedish as they wanted to learn English and practice it as they had been taught American English!
@ebbyc1817
@ebbyc1817 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, this talk really got to me in the end. For me, anyone I can understand in English is an English speaker, however I don't consider myself to be a 'speaker' of any of the other languages I speak.
@krissygo3
@krissygo3 4 жыл бұрын
Ebby C same! Except I’m trying to learn Spanish for, like, the 5th time ever.
@adaleoncotera7706
@adaleoncotera7706 3 жыл бұрын
I'm peruvian, my language is Spanish, I'm a teacher of my own language, I wanna say that nobody speaks perfectly a language , it doesn't care if is your mother language or not. Nobody is perfect. !!
@franciscothomas6012
@franciscothomas6012 4 жыл бұрын
I speak good English, and many people say that. But I don't feel like I'm an English speaker. This talk is great
@bloomindoom
@bloomindoom 4 жыл бұрын
8:35 that's what I call a plot twist
@Hallands.
@Hallands. 4 жыл бұрын
Her name is literally "Babel"?
@cidaaragao5979
@cidaaragao5979 4 жыл бұрын
god make she for be teacher of linguagues
@krissygo3
@krissygo3 4 жыл бұрын
matheus aragão interesante, no?
@casey18982
@casey18982 4 жыл бұрын
That was what I was thinking!
@kenip9800
@kenip9800 4 жыл бұрын
I was shocked she didn't make a joke about it in the talk.
@andrespalafoxmx4474
@andrespalafoxmx4474 4 жыл бұрын
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@laurabora444a
@laurabora444a 4 жыл бұрын
go professor Anna!!! you are so cool.
@sallysassa
@sallysassa 4 жыл бұрын
That was a very insightful talk.
@manuelruiz984
@manuelruiz984 4 жыл бұрын
English speaking all the times in America. Great speech!!
@johnkellett7797
@johnkellett7797 4 жыл бұрын
Manuel Ruiz , no. In America they do not speak English they speak and write AMERICAN English. They are NOT the same language.
@rebbecachunn
@rebbecachunn 4 жыл бұрын
So insightful but makes total sense. If we had more *blind* testing with the variety of what is considered to be correct I feel that students who are multilingual would have a better chance rather than being thrown into ESL programs.
@filiztepeli1327
@filiztepeli1327 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much my sweet! I learn everday english🤩
@gamingwood5233
@gamingwood5233 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video .. Thank u
@dasuhatv7468
@dasuhatv7468 4 жыл бұрын
I done subscribe your chhanel and you do subscribe my chhanel
@chrissy9171
@chrissy9171 4 жыл бұрын
As an ENL teacher, I have often thought about the last part of your presentation a lot.....
@MrTrekdata
@MrTrekdata 4 жыл бұрын
Fascinating
@aylbdrmadison1051
@aylbdrmadison1051 4 жыл бұрын
Unfounded bias leads to a reduction in critical thinking abilities. The more unfounded biases held, the more the reduction.
@manonliavais
@manonliavais 3 ай бұрын
This point of view is really interesting, but, I'd like to know how speakers of a language are counted (500 - 600 millions for Spanish for example).
@KomTvdelhi
@KomTvdelhi 4 жыл бұрын
I do.. I can speak 10 languages including my dialect and can write 4 as well apart from English.. English is my second hand language..I know little franch..bif anyone of you know my dialect ..kom dialect.. you will know lots of regional languages and easy to learn foreign languages bloke frence since pronunciation of A B C are some what similar
@tikaal
@tikaal 4 жыл бұрын
very interesting, very important
@charlesluciano9745
@charlesluciano9745 4 жыл бұрын
Personally, I think that just saying "Hola" "Hello" "Bonjour" you're speaking a language, but mastering a language is a different thing. In my case, I master Spanish, English and Latin.
@ltrizzle12
@ltrizzle12 4 жыл бұрын
Thing is, nobody cares..
@sweetylou9807
@sweetylou9807 4 жыл бұрын
You master Latin?
@charlesluciano9745
@charlesluciano9745 4 жыл бұрын
@@sweetylou9807 Ita, linguam latinam possum loqui bene, et possum legere classicas litteras (exempli gratia: De Bello Gallico, Iulii Caesaris) et audire ecclesiae Gregorianos Cantos. Ergo, facilis intelligendo. Et tu, loquerisne latinam linguam?
@sweetylou9807
@sweetylou9807 4 жыл бұрын
@@charlesluciano9745 You have strange interests... But to answer your question, I'm learning Latin in school, but I have no use for it, cause you can speak to no one...
@charlesluciano9745
@charlesluciano9745 4 жыл бұрын
@@sweetylou9807 Why it would be "strange"? I think it's very subjective, but if you have an answer to that question... In my case, I learnt Latin in 4 months with KZbin and a dictionary , I don't consider myself as an expert, but I can understand quite easily ancient texts and also I can speak it, even though it's useless. That's why nowadays Latin is a literary languague, same as Ancient Greek and Biblical Hebrew.
@danielzhang877
@danielzhang877 3 жыл бұрын
The tower is a literal historical truth btw
@Hazaltekinn123
@Hazaltekinn123 4 жыл бұрын
Çeviriyi açtım saat 00.00da izliyorum hahjaha
@andreat.8078
@andreat.8078 4 жыл бұрын
2:19 she hit the nail on the head with that point, I've felt like that but didnt know it was an actual thing
@barbelreuter6117
@barbelreuter6117 4 жыл бұрын
All Americans should watch is on CNN, so me, thanks 🙏 so much
@deepakchopra1707
@deepakchopra1707 4 жыл бұрын
Best video
@andrew1575
@andrew1575 4 жыл бұрын
Eso es por que yo creo que voy un estudiante de espanol para siempre
@wojtek0318
@wojtek0318 4 жыл бұрын
Lol 2 minutes ago i lerned english and tedx sent something about language are you in my head
@charlesluciano9745
@charlesluciano9745 4 жыл бұрын
@Karan Do you speak troll, right?
@dasuhatv7468
@dasuhatv7468 4 жыл бұрын
Any one want subscribe own chhanel? Tell me
@sweetgirl1535
@sweetgirl1535 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@andrewroberthook3310
@andrewroberthook3310 4 жыл бұрын
Change the letter e in tower to A and you might see where man got lost
@manuelruiz984
@manuelruiz984 4 жыл бұрын
Nice. Very nice
@nur-gp9sc
@nur-gp9sc 4 жыл бұрын
Türkçe alt yazı koyamadiniz bi
@alifadjackmoustapha9559
@alifadjackmoustapha9559 4 жыл бұрын
I like that it’s very very interesting. But I have difficulty for pronunciation in much mots...
@josephdenton2285
@josephdenton2285 4 жыл бұрын
Great video
@Human__Science
@Human__Science 4 жыл бұрын
What a scholastic question?!
@leiilo1458
@leiilo1458 4 жыл бұрын
Not all of us are christian..
@angela_merkeI
@angela_merkeI 4 жыл бұрын
So?
@billalovepoint7979
@billalovepoint7979 4 жыл бұрын
Nice
@diegovasquez4089
@diegovasquez4089 4 жыл бұрын
Q pasa ???? Los subtítulos????
@cidaaragao5979
@cidaaragao5979 4 жыл бұрын
calma rapaz, o video lançou faz 4 horas, demora um pouco para traduzir
@justanotherguywithamoustac8893
@justanotherguywithamoustac8893 4 жыл бұрын
Ironic that her name is Babel
@mickcoomer9714
@mickcoomer9714 4 жыл бұрын
Panic. You panic in your native tongue.
@ShadowManTV
@ShadowManTV 4 жыл бұрын
as a linguist she should know better history of languages but some interesting observations later in the video
@LOLinsultan
@LOLinsultan 4 жыл бұрын
what do you mean by better history?
@popito8366
@popito8366 4 жыл бұрын
funny how her last name is Babel
@jz8963
@jz8963 4 жыл бұрын
mission of life accomplished
@usnavyvet2002
@usnavyvet2002 4 жыл бұрын
Did I just watch an 11 minute long Ted Talk video about a caucasian linguist's child who spoke improper English during an English test and got graded as such? Would the same apply if a child said "you'z guys" or "They ain't got none"?
@My10centsWorth
@My10centsWorth 4 жыл бұрын
Babel "probably not a literal historical truth"? It is DEFINITELY not a historical truth or event or even a 'tale based on historical facts'. Academics should refrain from using ambiguous terms that could support the belief that fairytales could have any basis in reality.
@forisma
@forisma 4 жыл бұрын
👏
@suwatp
@suwatp 4 жыл бұрын
someone hold the grudge.
@tsarkaiserking5782
@tsarkaiserking5782 4 жыл бұрын
👍
@arturozea3440
@arturozea3440 4 жыл бұрын
😊🎇
@stanleywayne7261
@stanleywayne7261 4 жыл бұрын
Wow 3 minutes ago
@tmcdowell7977
@tmcdowell7977 4 жыл бұрын
Caylie Griswold ❤️
@thebibosez7949
@thebibosez7949 4 жыл бұрын
I love the way she blamed African Americans for degrading her own children's English language skills. That is a brave stand for any college professor to take.
@alines25
@alines25 4 жыл бұрын
In fact, she simply pointed out the difference. She didn't use any negative word. It was you who made the judgement that it was degrading their English.
@thebibosez7949
@thebibosez7949 4 жыл бұрын
@@alines25 Yes, she was quite subtle about it but for those who remember the ebonics wars her intent was clear.
@alines25
@alines25 4 жыл бұрын
That's not how specialists view linguistic differences
@thebibosez7949
@thebibosez7949 4 жыл бұрын
@@alines25 Indeed - while specialists may couch their spicy views in the florid babel of academia, this Babel's disdain for her own children's mediocre test scores leaked through her attempt to obscure it.
@sotsialmedia4426
@sotsialmedia4426 4 жыл бұрын
🤔
@awake5196
@awake5196 4 жыл бұрын
From my perspective, the answer is pretty obvious: The person which is able to communicate in this specific language without assistance from any other
@befer
@befer 4 жыл бұрын
So some British and Scottish, Irish people aren't speaking English if people can't understand them 😂
@rezadaneshi
@rezadaneshi 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone who can write a coherent page in one sentence.
@charlesluciano9745
@charlesluciano9745 4 жыл бұрын
your mum
@iconoclasta2117
@iconoclasta2117 4 жыл бұрын
your mum
@ortegadavid6592
@ortegadavid6592 4 жыл бұрын
your mum
@thearchitect003
@thearchitect003 4 жыл бұрын
your mum
@rezadaneshi
@rezadaneshi 4 жыл бұрын
@@thearchitect003 others may have merit to reply your mum awaiting my reply but you're mum for your mum
@bellapoof8255
@bellapoof8255 4 жыл бұрын
Hey KZbin. This video is borderline offensive. Why don't you block it like other videos that don't align with your opinions.
@blablabla2847
@blablabla2847 4 жыл бұрын
...so, I told the teacher that I was concerned about my son scores.
@Jackmerius_Tacktheritrix5733
@Jackmerius_Tacktheritrix5733 4 жыл бұрын
She looks like she’s crapping her knickers in the thumbnail
@ijasikku1706
@ijasikku1706 4 жыл бұрын
*💪BREAK THE CHAIN💪* stay home..stay safe ..we will survive.. ..Like from kerala,INDIA.. ..കമന്റോളികൾ നീണാൾ വാഴട്ടെ.. 😁 9328
@samwright6715
@samwright6715 4 жыл бұрын
First
@hilbillymnst1324
@hilbillymnst1324 3 жыл бұрын
Try to be an IT and not be irritated by tutorials with bearly understandable Indi-lish. This is a plague, when videos are good but the only good way to watch and listen is to mute and read subtitles. Horror.
@KiranKumarManchala
@KiranKumarManchala 4 жыл бұрын
Babel, not historical truth? Everything that shows up in tvs or shows kicks down the truth of the bible.
@dragonquest2926
@dragonquest2926 4 жыл бұрын
Even Muppets count as speakers.
@bagoodman9153
@bagoodman9153 4 жыл бұрын
11 minutes ill never get back . what a waste of time !
@emberdawn5283
@emberdawn5283 4 жыл бұрын
BLAHH blahhhhh Only Royal's Blue bloods Club 360 know language They teach us babel
@dasuhatv7468
@dasuhatv7468 4 жыл бұрын
I done subscribe your chhanel and you subscribe my channel
@marshallsilva9389
@marshallsilva9389 4 жыл бұрын
Darling woman, very little if anything is historical in the Bible, no Moses did not live in Egypt nor did he leave Egypt with 600,000people wandering lost for 40yrs leaving not a single trace! 😊✌️ ( tho more Jews lived in Egypt at the birth of Jesus around Alexandria than Judea and Greek was the common language)
@arsenioramonbonachearuiz6720
@arsenioramonbonachearuiz6720 4 жыл бұрын
Traducir
@arsenioramonbonachearuiz6720
@arsenioramonbonachearuiz6720 4 жыл бұрын
Español
@emmett33
@emmett33 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ
@joeyvanostrand3655
@joeyvanostrand3655 4 жыл бұрын
WAAAAYYY tooo saggy. 2/10 would not smash
@nur-gp9sc
@nur-gp9sc 4 жыл бұрын
Türkçe alt yazı koyamadiniz bi
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