Who decides what is socially “normal”? | Christine Emba

[@aatt3209]

A very relevant topic for today's world - critical thinking is ever more so crucial to exercise daily.

[@shadowdragonlord2295]

Chase's "Infinite Money Glitch" being a prime of that.

[@AmateurHistorian999]

@@shadowdragonlord2295 What is that?

[@jeffbarnes1102]

Simplistic summary of a very complex issue. Every culture has different social norms and they cant be changed because a few people think they are outdated. Some people will always violate social norms but in doing so they put themselves in a particular position in that society. You cant have society without having norms. They form our traditions, identity and history.

[@AutumnBrazzle]

judgmentcallpodcast covers this. Who determines socially "normal"?

[@AmateurHistorian999]

@@AutumnBrazzle Well, society.

[@sofaking1102]

This reminds me of a graduation speech by David Wallace called "This is water". He goes into what "default settings" are and how we take the easy way of thinking.

[@newpilgrim]

Thank you! As always thoughtful and relevant! Appreciate you Christine Emma and Big Think!

[@kathiemihindukulasuriya1538]

This was a well reasoned essay. I particularly like the GK Chesterton quote.

[@mikitz]

Regardless of whether opening a door for a woman is regarded a valid social norm or not, the proper response still is 'thank you', not 'f*ck you'.

[@Irene-euwtxgp]

Please, only some ladies do that and it's not because they're a liberal feminist even if they say they are. They're stuck up annoying people. It's polite to open the door for anyone whenever you can. That will take you places in life, doing that habitually.

[@billwalton4571]

Im adverse to doing anything that inflates a womans ego nowadays. They become more and more entitled and less and less accountable, the more we give them special treatments.

[@Fnidner]

@@billwalton4571 damn. you alright dude?

[@AmateurHistorian999]

@@billwalton4571 Special treatment like equal pay for equal work? Insisting that "Women's bodies are not responsible for men's thoughts"? Consideration for biological functions that only women experience, like menstruation, menstrual cramps, PMS, and childbirth, that men dismiss with, "That never happens to *ME"?* Demanding that men stop using anti-woman slurs within the hearing of women? Yes, those are a scandal.

[@KevinMcNeill-n7h]

Chesterton wasn't talking about fences, he was talking about tradition, social norms if you will, and he was right, don't get rid of things until you understand why they exist.

[@bettyng9880]

I didn't grow up in the US and didn't wear a ring when I got married (to an American husband). Some of my MBA classmates gave me a hard time for not following the norm, as if I was immoral.

[@AmateurHistorian999]

@@bettyng9880 That's a good example of a norm that's changing. I know married people who don't wear rings and unmarried partners who do wear rings. And since most unmarried but committed couples don't wear rings, the presence or absence of a ring stopped being a reliable indicator quite awhile ago.

[@NewLife-qj9mx]

One day the fallacy of marriage will be a thing of the past

[@alphabladelm2011]

Well, one advantage to no rings is that you don’t risk losing something valuable/precious.

[@sunderwood9321]

Not having a ring in some places where they have been led to believe that they can do what they want to any unattended woman ,the ring was your protection!

[@Robert-yc9ql]

Nicely done.

[@JerryMurphy-he9ok]

When questioning the relevance or worth of a social norm it can be useful to expand the question of asking whether the norm was there to protect to asking which group if was trying to protect and if that norm is actually trying to protect one groups power of another.

[@ubayete]

Thank you, now i can explain it to my people

[@invox9490]

I stopped the video at 30seconds because, "social norm" or "normal" are NOT shortcut. What happened is we tried everything else, it failed, and we are left with what didn't and works. That's the definition of a norm. That's why we don't smoke in close spaces, we don't fart in elevators, we don't cut in lines, etc... I mean we CAN do this thing, but they are anti-social and there are repercutions if we do so. For instance we are still in the infancy of dealing with smartphones, people still don't turn off ringtones in theaters, people still do conference calls in public transports, people still don't use headphones to listen to their music in public spaces, etc... All this is still trial-and-error but give it a few more years and "social norms" will also arise there.

[@skymakai]

Young people are always rebellious. The difference between then and now is that adults are pandering to young people's sensitivities and ideations more than ever. While there's always some good to consider what young people have to say, on the contrary young people should respect that older people tend to have wisdom only age can grant someone.

[@axle.student]

Social constructs and norms are an essential a creation for social "cohesion". A construct where all can play on the same page using the same rules of engagement. When this is discarded and everyone follows there own individual rules we have chaos where no one knows the correct rule to the game. Typically conflict will ensue and the group no long acts as a group. > It is one of the unfortunate paradoxes in the concept of multiculturalism. One set of social norms will often be very incompatible with another set of social norms. Either we exist as a singular global group under the same set of rules (unlikely) or we exist as smaller groups each with a set of norms more appropriate to the needs and conditions of that individual group (always some friction between groups).

[@prodbyed4549]

The environment. At a point in time, different groups of organisms were in specific environments that forced them to adjust to it or die. Today, the environment isn't as scary as it was before, so we think. We get up, go to work, come home, open our refrigerators, watch KZbin, go to sleep. We have a lot of time on our hands. We reflect and philosophize. We don't spend as much time with our children as our ancestor did; for them it was 24hrs probably, for us it maybe 6hrs, if everyone isn't on their smart phones. Dating apps, money, debates, politics, religion, etc. The human body currently exists in an environment it doesn't belong in. The mind however, is having a blast.

[@Margaretodhiambo-wo5ju]

More please

[@baronmilhaven11]

Do what feels right for you. Dont do as you're told blindly. Think.

[@alphabladelm2011]

I think it’s fine if people ask questions about social norms and if there’s any way things could be improved or if there are drawbacks sticking to a certain belief. So long as it’s civil discussion. It could be uncomfortable but it could lead to more people coming to terms with one another. Not to mention potentially improving our communities, our relationships, and ourselves. Sometimes, the US has practices and beliefs that I think are better than those from other countries. And there are some countries that have practices that are superior to our country.

[@MRIKARUsss89]

3:10 - "The idea that happiness is a choice is so empowering. 💪"

[@HacknMate]

The ad at the end made more sense than the video itself

[@goodfortunetoyou]

Earlier today I watched a video about using infantry formations in video games. (Just because) According to it, some people will use a known formation, without understanding the principles underlying why and when you would use one. They tend to see the form, but don't understand the substance, which makes their use of those formations in the video game completely ineffective. For instance, one of the reasons to use a particular formation (The "wedge", I believe) is so each member of a team can cover a designated area, such as holding the rear, so as to avoid being taken by surprise. If all members of the team are facing the same direction, then nobody is checking the rear. This defeats the point, because now they can be taken by surprise, and they aren't moving as efficiently as if they had naturally run in a line, one after another. Similarly, when it comes to social norms, the substance of Why the social norm exists, matters. If you adhere only to the form of the social norm, without truly understanding the principles for why it exists, you'd be better off not following it at all. A few come to mind, which I won't mention, out of fear of contention.

[@lysergicheadcase]

yeah they mentioned this in the video thanks

[@goodfortunetoyou]

@@lysergicheadcase Lol, you're welcome.

[@garybrown4385]

Great channel Glad I subscribed

[@paulpease8254]

I agree with the Chesterton guy that reasons for things should be examined. I do this a lot with religious belief (I believe these are human constructs and not divine). For example, perhaps the story of Noah’s ark arose because ancient people would have found fossils of fish at the tops of mountains, and without the concept of plate tectonics they would have assumed the seas must have been that high, which raises the question of 1. Why? (god punished people for doing bad) and 2. How did any living thing survive…a big boat. Its logical. Same with the story where god took away snakes legs and made them crawl on their bellies…ancient people would have known that snakes have vestigial legs and must have thought, what’s up with that? What about some religions not eating pork. Well, pigs destroy delicate ecosystems, such as desert in the Middle East. They also carry parasites that are a health hazard. What about rules about sex…venereal disease and sex addiction. There are likely reasons for everything.

[@GassersGhost]

I can wake and bake and it's all good, BUT if I pour beer over my cheerios and put whiskey in my coffee, I "hAve A pRobLem". Serious side... I open doors for everyone. It costs me nothing! Just be nice to people whether you have something to gain or not. "Four or five moments, that’s all it takes. To be a hero. Everyone thinks it’s a full-time job. Wake up a hero. Brush your teeth a hero. Go to work a hero. Not true. Over a lifetime, there are only 4 or 5 moments that really matter. Moments when you’re offered a choice. To make a sacrifice, conquer a flaw, save a friend… spare an enemy. In these moments, everything else falls away." - giant metal Russian

[@user-enter-here]

What’s the etiquette for going through a revolving doors? Does a woman or a man go through first? Do you let an elderly person go first and push, or do you go first to push? What if you don’t know the gender of the other person? Is it rude to assume one way or another in context of the door opening etiquette?

[@tarek_maza]

Humans need social norms and that's a fact

[@lysergicheadcase]

You never answered the question, you just...asked more questions

[@RiverMica]

There is a spiritual part of man , that this world cannot touch or judge.

[@chelseashurmantine8153]

Cool. Interesting

[@DanellKieuOanh]

the book that changed everything for me was Magnetic Aura from Borlest

[@DaRkPlUm]

They're the reason so many of us feel isolated and angry.

[@KozralPrimeCMDD]

In my eyes "Social Norms" are like a fire 🔥. You can use social norms to improve morals, manners and discipline. Great traits for any human being, just like how fire was used for warmth, cooking food, and as a weapon to create tools for hunting. But social norms when used wrong can lead to disasters.I will give you 2 examples. Slavery was a social norm in the past, so many innocent people perished purely because of skin colour. Another was WW2, in Germany, the ariyan race was seen as pure and any other race must be killed. This being normalized in Germany, led to the killings of thousands of people without a hint of remorse.

[@BradyHansen81]

How about all of us using electronic devices assembled by forced child labor? That’s a new social “norm.”

[@josemadrid2913]

Very good points

[@Wstarlights]

Investigative thinking makes - the law, politics, society, sociality, organizations, individuality, art, science, culture(s) honorable - as long as it itself, is honorable.

[@nicolebogda1482]

I’ve never found generalised “social norms” to work for myself personally, but being as authentic as I can. Things such as Opening a door is general kindness. But fitting in with following the herd? Nah…

[@apex9841]

I just use it to get my way, just like every other social tool

[@landrist1]

When journalists explain the nature of black holes they openly cite and refer to astrophysicists, but when they talk about social norms, they sound as if they're considered opinion is good enough. It's not. They really need to work more closely with sociologists and give credit where credit is due.

[@schoolofkuu]

It's hard for me to see this question outside the lens of colonialism, sexism, economics and classism. So if we look at the world generally speaking, most social norms have been determined by white males, with even the traditional aka historical social norms of non white cultures being affected by colonialism and capitalisms mission to turn everything into a source of profit, like cultural art and food. Look at what they did to native Americans, forced to cut their hair, abandon their languages, introduced alcohol, were appalled natives didn't beat their children. I can't separate the world from the homogeneitizing affect of mentally and physically violent colonialism

[@kiras3180]

I can't help but think that the normalization of a one size fits all internet culture suggests that we all have so much more in common as humans than not.

[@TorgerVedeler]

Social norms are highly complex and conditional, and I think pretty much everyone knows this. These days, however, too many are looking for one single set of “norms” that they think everyone should follow in every situation. This is what “political correctness” is rooted in. It’s also found in numerous religions, from the most liberal to the most conservative.

[@AmateurHistorian999]

@@TorgerVedeler Well said.

[@MrStumpkin]

I just hold the door open for everyone 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@matteframe]

even for a serial killer?

[@MrStumpkin]

@@matteframe Possibly, they rarely announce themselves as such. I just hold doors first and ask questions later

[@paulpease8254]

Can you imagine living in a society where there are no norms? Everyone has totally different fashion, personal grooming standard, accents/dialects, acts and reacts in a totally unique and unexpected way? We’d all be mired in endless novelty where we need to make decisions. It would be totally exhausting and we would end up constantly feeling offended and being offensive to others.

[@honeyisthebestdog]

Hahahahaha

[@DrManhattan8472]

Is this advanced sarcasm?

[@paulpease8254]

@@DrManhattan8472 huh? No, it’s an observation. Can you imagine living in a society where there are no norms? I can’t.

[@radupopescu9977]

Social norms, in fact any man made rule is for avoiding anarchy. This is the role of man made rules. If they do or not good to a society beside avoiding anarchy, this is secondary effect, generally speaking those based on ten commandments do generally (!) good to a society. The problem with the correctness of man made rules lies in the confusion between the necessity of respecting the rules and the necessity of existing of those rules. The first one is an impostor!

[@Houdini_Bob]

my view on "social norms" is that they are created by others as set standard which they believe in and feel all others should be held to regardless if those other believe in it or not. often times it will be from a religious point of view. I set my own path to follow and do not imbue that on others, if they want to fine if not that is fine as well.

[@Lachlan1806]

I will follow you Houdini Bob, I trust you because you’re a cat.

[@ksgraham3477]

The social norm has become materialistic and decadent. I do not want to fit and serve those values.

[@chelseashurmantine8153]

That ad at the end was jarring and a huge portion of the video why?

[@AmateurHistorian999]

@@chelseashurmantine8153 Regrettably, embedded ads are one of the ways content creators get paid. :o(

[@Wetstache]

Can we please stop blessing people after they sneeze?

[@frankypc]

You can stop allright. Nobody is asking you to continue 😂

[@olugbadeolusegun917]

😂

[@NewLife-qj9mx]

It was once believed your heart stopped for a brief moment when a person sneezed, thus they were "blessed" just in case.

[@mikemo4252]

Nobody's forcing you to participate

[@JBS512]

When blessed after a sneeze, you can roll an extra d4 and add it to your attack roll or saving throw before the bless ends.

[@gravestone4840]

Me. I decide what's normal.

[@velokernow3696]

Driving faster than the speed limit seems a clear 'social norm' to me, sadly.

[@TheDrakelicious]

Wished she would have given a MALE vs female norm, should women respect men? Should they be promiscuous? Etc.

[@Gigusx]

She gave you a framework, or at least a concise version of it. You can use it to explore the male vs female norms yourself.

[@deltatea3192]

To my eyes norms were established based a mix of "what works" and what we think about the other sex. Holding a door to help someone who is crippled or has their hands full is just a good thing to do. Hopefully it also encourages others to help if only so they receive aid in turn. Holding a door because a person is a woman is stupid. I would also argue that seeking advice from so-called "influencers" is stupid. I give you the hordes of male and female dating advisers. As I've said far too often over the years I remember the advertisements in the 90's where they were talking about being yourself. Don't step into somebody else's shoes. Now they want everyone to take on this label of right/left/black/white/trans etc. I am not some damned descriptor. I am me. I reject any social norm that does not have a concrete reason that actually makes sense.

[@PhùngHoàngThiênNgọc]

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[@AmateurHistorian999]

@@PhùngHoàngThiênNgọc 🙄🙄🙄

[@joshuaneal7552]

I'm a guy and I hold the door for everyone (if they're close enough). But in other situations, it all depends on the angle, really. In some situations it's easier and/or more appropriate to do the walk in first, hold the door after approach. You just gotta read the angle right. And it really annoys me when some people hold the door for me (with either approach) when I'm way too far away for them to be doing that.

[@violetafarcas2852]

Social "norms" are not "norms", they are rules to be followed 'or else'. They are markers for judgment, often negative. "Nonconformity" refres to people who 'dare' to be authentic in a non normative way. However, if I choose to jump in a dirty pool of water for fun, it's defo not normal to be negatively judged for it. Social norms do just that: they are invented rules based on which a person is thoroughly assessed against. A bit like A levels 😅. I would never follow rules that don't make sense to me, that's called brainwashing and very similar to training a dog

[@rebshannonling]

Social norms are like shadows... Their shape and length are dependent on individual factors and varies from time to time 😂😂

[@SGriffithResearch]

Should he/hims still open doors for she/hers? What about the they/its? It's confusing. The world is changing. But I think we can all agree: let the she/its of this world forge their own damn path.

[@HouseGreg]

This

[@NATESOR]

Weird example to choose. Is it entirely rhetorical? Because, to me, the obvious answer is people should open doors for people. Especially if a person is carrying something. That's just being generally kind and considerate. I feel like I'm being baited by this example though... If I'm being super critical of your specific example, then a very manly man who does manly things should probably not open a door for a hapless, helpless, and distressed woman who is both scared, confused, and panicked over the presence of a door. It serves only to infantalize the woman and perpetuate outdated ideas about gender roles, and, most likely is a sort of micro-aggression towards the woman to remember just how little personal agency she has and how entirely dependent and submissive to a man she should be. It's important to know also that the history of etiquette is largely a collection of purposely obtuse and difficult behavioral codes designed specifically to reinforce and signal social and economic hierarchies. So like... I'm inclined to think most "social norms" are actually bullshit, generally, but if you enjoy engaging with them, then that's fine too. I do think that examining traditions critically is a good idea generally. That all being said, I'll still open the door for my girlfriend when it's practical.

[@xoxox.skinnychef]

Due Diligence

[@ChickadeeBoi]

If anyone has a name, I'd like to speak with them....I just wanna ask questions, not vent any Autism fueled irritation/confusion over said norms...nope, just some questions 🙃

[@kos8571]

Me

[@jarrettbobbett5230]

Bring back social distancing.

[@SUCCESSPASS]

❤

[@reubenj.cogburn8546]

Social norms currently are determined by access to other people's opinions. This is the way it has always been. It's just that we now have access to 7 billion other opinions 24/7. That equals social norms mutating at unsustainable rates, creating what is known as.. Chaos

[@Gigusx]

An unhealthy amount of exposure. This creates more imbalance, uncertainty and change than is normally sustainable.

[@jonathancharles9862]

I paused the video for a second just because I thought to myself that a man should hold a door open for anybody if he is able. Sorry, ladies!

[@Emiliapocalypse]

Anyone can and should hold the door open for another if they are able. I held the door open for a man the other day just because I happened to reach it first, and it would be rude to slam it in his face. Sorry if I misunderstood your comment

[@Houdini_Bob]

@@Emiliapocalypse I do this as well, I hold a door open for anyone, I see it as just being nice.

[@JaTjr32]

@@Emiliapocalypse To be fair, the original comment is a mess. It could use some extra words and punctuation. I don't think it means anything at all right now.

[@jonathancharles9862]

@@JaTjr32 we’re all saying the same thing. You didn’t have to call my comment a mess. It’s pretty easy to work out if you think about it for a few seconds.

[@JaTjr32]

​@@jonathancharles9862Your sentence fragment could mean anything, it is not clear at all. I'm sorry for being rude about it.

[@trinhdungLA]

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[@M3l_0N666]

I particularly despise gender norms, being nice is easy, but its not fair i think that men face all the rejection, backlash and woman sit pretty. You will almost never find yourself being approached by woman, a woman can say or do far more without being labeled a creep, and so on. And that is ingrained in even the newest generation. Theyd all rather be gay or confused mess of sexes than forming more fair norms.

[@cookiennonster]

truuuuuue

[@alexalekos]

how's the most like thread here a promotion between bots?

[@chelseashurmantine8153]

I hate our American work schedule. This is not normal. I want to celebrate the full moon and the first day of summer etc. That is normal.

[@user-enter-here]

What constitutes being an “expert”? Isn’t that a subjective opinion? Would multiple experts in the same field agree on who is the expert?🤔

[@Gigusx]

That's a really complex topic. But credibility and a good hit-rate (being right) are a good indicator. You can't consistently be right about a complex topic without being an expert in it.

[@lv1up]

Who decides? Well, you do! You might just not know it yet.

[@RanmaSyaoranSaotome]

Fair advice, but it's ironic that this lady is a self-described expert on her topic of conservative sexual ethics, despite being an opinion columnist and PR graduate.

[@Valentina.Montano]

So, according to you women in conservative communities don't work NOWADAYS? Do you still live in the 1800s?

[@RanmaSyaoranSaotome]

​@@Valentina.Montano No. And to your logical fallacy which twists my words I say "постарайся, русская марионетка".

[@turquoise3851]

investigative thinking is far right

[@That2003show]

I think there norms & social norm. School is a social & marriage is norm type ish

[@elfboi523]

I don't care about social norms. I'm not 'normal', I have never been, I'm always a weird freak.

[@jer-bear48]

Then without social norms you would not have the opportunity to be so unique…

[@LineleaderOG]

@@jer-bear48why tho

[@jer-bear48]

@@LineleaderOG why tho? What?

[@LineleaderOG]

@@jer-bear48 how would doing away with social norms make them anymore or less normal. I don’t think that’s true

[@Irene-euwtxgp]

K, looks like someone has never been called weird before... ​@@jer-bear48

[@renegroulx7029]

Who decides what is socially normal? i dont know, probably MTV.

[@lisa6838]

🥚

[@bigpurplepops]

When did being normal or having societal standards become an so bad just saying something is the 'norm' becomes an issue? Most cultural norms are just what's worked the best for the longest time; fighting blindly usually leads to issues people figured out millenia ago (i.e. fatherless children statistically doing worse).

[@Ramy-mt8ho]

You talk well but with the photos accompany your videos you sounds like ultra right (communication is not just with words and what you are communicating is our social norms in the west are superior) and I would have been fine if you said that and allowed other to counter you and prove you wrong but this kind of under the radar manipulation :/

[@steveguti6452]

May you believe that you always have an angel by your side praise the Lord praise God praying for Everyone everyday God bless you all

[@JaTjr32]

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[@briancolwill3071]

​@@JaTjr32Hard to say, zealots sound just the same...

[@JaTjr32]

@@briancolwill3071 They posted 3 off topic comments on this video and a glimpse into their other posts shows they're all off topic.

[@HouseGreg]

Following social norms is a waste of time. You have one life, do not spend it following societal rules. You do what you want and like to do

[@Kazuhiro-i]

HAHAHA THE IRONY. The girl in the video talks questions influencers and groups of people that "say can guide you" and u put an ad to one of those? 😂😂😂😂 ah yes capitalism. Hoy fk up we are

[@good_vibes_20]

When I'm looking for social norms I start with this: 1. I do what the fuck I want. 2. Deal with it.

[@alexplorer]

Take away her teleprompter so she'll speak naturally. Or as she might have read it: Take away... her teleprompter so she'll... speak naturally.

[@jppzecuador]

Opinions or thoughts in which the person is not a subject matter expert critizing those who actually have dedicated their life to this very topic. This video is like fiction: made believe without the dedicated time to the actual facts and expertise

[@simbeau]

As a person who was forced to mask for most of my life dueto my status as neurospicy, I think the idea of "normal" is wholly outdated and it would have been nice if this video dabbled into that aspect of the concept.

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[@steveguti6452]

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[@AkshayKumarX]

Propaganda machine out in full force I see. Never let a tragedy go to waste. Make the religious feel good about themselves and patting themselves on the back for doing nothing. Next time a tragedy strikes in your life, pray for yourself instead of setting up a gofundme.

[@Valentina.Montano]

​@@AkshayKumarX so, just ignore what they wrote is true and criticize them for their beliefs that spiritual support reaches people? Ok, jerk.

[@JaTjr32]

@@Valentina.Montano Praying to a god doesn't help any of the victims or any future victims. Legislation on gun control would.

[@steveguti6452]

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[@JaTjr32]

Don't spam videos with off topic comments.

[@robertdouglas8895]

If you had known what these words mean, 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the innocent.We put the world behind us and enter the kingdom within through forgiveness.

[@Valentina.Montano]

​@@robertdouglas8895 hypocrite

[@robertdouglas8895]

@@Valentina.Montano why? what is the hypocrisy?

[@derreckwalls7508]

Religion is often just another social norm. If you had been born and raised somewhere else or in a different time you would likely believe in whatever myths were the social norms there and then. And, since we know Adam and Eve were not real people, they could never have eaten from a magic tree where understanding morality (knowledge of good and evil) was punishable by making you and all your descendants be innately evil. That means there never was any original sin, and so there is no need for a sacrifice to redeme us. Besides, Ahura Mazda is the One True God, according to the Zoroastrian scriptures, so why should anyone believe in one set of scriptures over another? So... _"What criteria did you use, and applied universally and equitably to all past and present religions and their gods, that conclusively proves the truth of your religion and disproves all others?"_ If you can't answer that question then there is no justification for claiming one particular social norm religion is true. People have as much reason for not believing in your myth as you have for not believing in theirs.

[@TheExistenceClass0]

Me