Who does it better: Negreanu or Ivey? ♠️ PokerStars

[@PokerStars]

Some great arguments in the comments, keep 'em coming!

[@JoopBman]

Dear Marketing department. People don't need encouragement to behave the way the want to, quit trying to create activity by being a cvnt.

[@dankbangayahu4835]

I really like the small talks Daniel do on the table! Like even the pros fall for it sometimes. His understanding of the game is just anothet level👌

[@stevest8675]

Agree

[@usefulprogrammer9880]

He’s also an extremely respectful winner. The hand where he beat pocket aces he even apologized to the guy. Didn’t obnoxiously celebrate as most would. Super great guy.

[@publicalias8172]

Super Canadian lol don't apologize for winning man @@usefulprogrammer9880

[@kevinexline5392]

And actually one of my favorite moments to watch is Daniel vs Ivey, Shark Cage final table, heads up. Daniel’s personality coaxes Phil to talk and smile and joke a lot more. Phil has the poker brain we can only dream of. And Daniel isn’t far behind. But these 2 dudes, it’s all love between them. It’s a lot of fun to see them open up and have fun with each other. Hearing Phil say “Thanks, Kid Poker” told everyone what Phil thinks of Daniel (utmost respect).

[@fhslife1544]

Is it just me or does anyone else notice sometimes Phil looks either really old or young.. like it depends on the evening ?🤷🏻‍♂️😂

[@nevmat1595]

Depends on the moisturizer, some nights he is just ashy. Or maybe it’s the lights.. 🫥😂😂

[@lawsontalks918]

Facts

[@elijahsolis6288]

some of these clips are older so he is literally sometimes younger and sometimes literally older

[@RodJeez]

Don't be racist

[@No1zHerO]

💀

[@VClll]

That hand where the guy had pocket kings and at the end, when all 5 cards have been drawn, he re-raises him and Daniel says I got you on aces or kings. That was damn brilliant. What a mental strategy and exciting to watch. Love these poker algorithms lol

[@CalebJNelson]

Phil Ivey is creative, unlike any other. He knows how to make it look like he has something. And he knows how to disguise his hand. Daniel is better at determining others hands though. And of course, there’s his personality.

[@PokerStars]

And which one do you prefer to watch playing?

[@perfect_harmony4348]

@@PokerStars Daniel all the way. but thats just because of how likable and fun he is

[@CalebJNelson]

@@PokerStars Hmmm, mostly Daniel, but it depends on my mood.

[@adam69er69er1]

Yup Daniel for sure especially when he plays against phil its fun to watch. Not only that how many hands has he called out the other player has its insane and it don't hurt that he's canadian

[@dcworld4349]

@@CalebJNelson Mood does come into it but I could probably watch Daniel all the time. The way I see it when it comes to watching poker, If you want spectacle entertainment you watch Hellmuth. If you want to watch entertaining poker that also has great insight with an ability to both talk and read people without giving things away you watch Daniel. If you want to watch world class poker who interestingly enough is able to be extremely intimidating even though he has such a calm presence about him Ivey all the way. The only problem I have with Ivey and it has nothing to do with me thinking he should change his playing style. It's just that besides the very occasional fishing that he can do like he did one of the hands here. Watching him play is like watching a very high level math class. Which is why Daniel will always to me be more fun to watch because he is such an extrovert who can liven up a game, and something I think people overlook when it comes to other extroverted players. Daniel is able to use it without and even trick other players without being obnoxious or an A-hole about it. I don't know their names just seen some of the streams recently and the extroverted players act like Hellmuth when he loses except they act that way when they win and wants the losing player to feel like an idiot for the rest of the night. I mean I get wanting to get a player to go on tilt, but you can do that by showing a bluff without resorting to those kinds of tactics. That is one thing Hellmuth is right about, a bad loser is sad to see because it's pathetic, but a bad winner is worse because it just show no class. Not that when Hellmuth has called someone a bad winner he's been right, he's the one who says something that eventually gets a player to shoot a comment back. But the sentiment is still correct. The one exception being when Persson just destroyed Hellmuth, yes technically he was being a bad winner, but how many times have we seen Hellmuth abuse amature players for getting lucky or by "not playing it right" making him not make the correct call or fold.

[@Kaiasky]

Genuinely love Ivey's game so much. When they talk together it's so fun. Daniels' "aces or kings" is such a classic moment though

[@NLTops]

You know it's a legendary play when the casters are saying "Let's see if he can gets away from this." and instead he wins the pot.

[@RideTheTeacups]

These 2 are especially incredible to watch. Their instincts are second to none. Wow!!!

[@sebastiankrutschoff842]

Both are insane players. Phil is the most cold and Daniel is the most hot. A table with both of them is madness.

[@Robert-iu2ou]

Well said

[@jstandards766]

💯 'You did not' was cold af 🧊🧊🥶 The 'Good bluff' was nice out for the other player too. A gent haha. He was just a bit pissed cause he didn't earn as much as he should have, and then he hits ivey with the jj bs 😂😂

[@Lolmans666]

I am a big fan of Negreanu, but Ivey does it better in every way. Sure I think Daniel is more entertaining to watch, but Phil can somehow read your freaking soul while you playing him.

[@Alex-mh8yb]

@@RodJeez Always gotta bring that subject into something that's got nothing to do with it huh? Can't we just watch legends play poker and appreciate it?

[@speedfastman]

@@RodJeez cringe

[@dragosdragos4377]

@@speedfastman is more cringe that you take it serious :))

[@speedfastman]

@@dragosdragos4377 It can still be cringe without me taking it seriously.

[@RodJeez]

@@speedfastman are u a racist trumper?

[@hiimawasteoftime8678]

My fav Daniel Moment when he reads the guy for kings and he lays down the best hand

[@bjtownsend2046]

And then someone asks if As or Ks were good. Then Daniel says “ of course I didn’t say I could beat it, just thought that’s what he had.” Lmao that dude must have been tilted after that.

[@アマ-p2l]

@@bjtownsend2046 yeah that was the best part. "Aces or kings was good right?" "Of course!"

[@OJuggernautO]

In the last hand, the commentator said that the 8 doesn’t really change much and that the only hand this really helps is 67 or 89. Dnegs could have easily had J10 of spades. Flopped a flush draw, turned an open ender. You could argue that he would likely raise on the turn, but not always. Point is, that 8 helped more than just those two hands.

[@e36fanatics]

Yes yes we know we all saw it and thought of it

[@patriciadavis1393]

I love both of them and they are both amazing in their own way. I love the interaction when the 2 play together. I know some about poker but I'm not a big poker player but I love to watch. If I was playing listening to either of them, especially Daniel trying figure out loud what's going on with the hands would throw me off especially when they seem to know

[@michaelcarrig627]

Phil's call with 10s was nuts. These guys are the best to ever do it.

[@piquette1234]

They are both my favorite poker players I been watching Daniel for years his KZbin channel is amazing you can learn a lot from him

[@stevenwilson8718]

Phil does it better, but DNegs does with more entertainment value. I'm always left speechless watching Phil but left laughing and wanting more when watching Daniel

[@KeanuPitt]

Caught him in that lie so quick lol

[@ryangross6599]

such different approaches yet both mega successful extremely interesting to see especially when against each other.

[@mythicgaming2552]

Daniel seems like such a down to Earth guy who just happens to be an absolute monster at poker

[@aidandoylepolitics]

Really? He seems like a condescending dick to me. Phil helmouth seems like the most genuine to me, which is why everyone hates him

[@nunchucksupland]

I was just saying what you had, not that I could beat it 😂

[@ClutchupGolf]

They’re both good because their folds are better than their bluffs and raises with actually hands. Their key on cards and knowing what people have keeps them alive. A lot of people don’t know how to fold cards price and ego eat them alive they have neither

[@danieldeborin6392]

Even though Daniel has been more successful in terms of winnings by a lot, Phil is definitely the more skilled player

[@hughmungus3153]

Your name is Daniel how could you betray him

[@HoangTruong-vk7ek]

But poker is a game measured by winnings...

[@RodJeez]

Wow that is the dumbest thing I ever heard. I would love to play in a table with you

[@actnow3]

They're both in the top 10, so "a lot" is a bit of an exaggeration

[@cyruswang9354]

there's a saying in chess,"the better player always gets lucky"

[@xxyanlixx]

Too bad we don't know the Shlomi's stack size in the last hand. If he had at least half his stack left after Daniel raised, I think it's a call.

[@leroyhofte7183]

Its basically a snap call

[@simpwithadollarsign9988]

Daniel repping 10 J in that last hand was such a genius play especially calling out that you put him onto kk or aa after you just raised

[@noflyzone-01001]

Phil’s like the natural pro n Daniel is a trained pro. Idk maybe not that accurate but there’s a significant difference in style . Love em both

[@leela4274]

Ivey is like a constant lighter flame 💥♨️ and negreanu is like raw fire 🔥

[@PokerStars]

This is the perfect description 🔥💥

[@adamkhabazian3249]

exactly

[@scrollwheel1067]

“Not that I could beat it” POG him 🤣

[@snitox]

17:00 That Ivey vs Polk showdown was some intense psychological warfare. I would've definitely broke from nervousness.

[@stangreene6663]

Starting at 1:23, I could totally see this being a scene in a dramatic movie or tv show with like, close up face shots and tense music while Ivey is saying "You shouldn't lie my friend". lol

[@Badanga7]

“Can I say what he has but not what I have” that’s insane

[@LarryJL]

Daniel laying down the 2 pair was sick

[@jrminor2408]

Omg that last play by Daniel 😮

[@sebastianholzl4668]

20:41 That's the face of a player who knows he got robbed. He knows Daniel stole his pot. It's gotta be so intimidating that you can bait out chips from an opponent like Daniel with a winning hand, and then on the last bet he raises you and calls out your hand, so you have to assume he can beat it. That's just crushing. Played very well, until Daniel figured out the hand. How do you beat guys like that?

[@kylemcfarland4764]

Daniel saying huh to lichtenberger get me everytime man 😂😂

[@calebclancey4706]

Best poker commentary easily

[@nikumimito3164]

I love them both, I used to watch the poker shows they would regularly appear on with hellmuth and dwan, I forget the name but it was caught up in a massive scandal for stealing money from players etc.

[@TF549]

The pot sizes difference between the old and new clips are insane xd

[@markirish8907]

Ivey. Daniel is great a guessing hands that beat him, and then calling anyway.

[@Ghoststormer2]

They have very contrasting styles but they’re both incredible. I think altogether Phil is probably the stronger player but when Daniel’s having a good day and running at his best he’s unstoppable.

[@harjutapa]

Daniel gets the edge in table talk and reads, Phil is a master bluffer and much better at letting hands go. I give the match to Phil overall. But they both win at being two of the most likeable players in poker. I'd love to grab a beer with either of them, which I can't say for most top level poker pros.

[@brianmcleod5474]

Ivey is the superior player imo, they're both legends and even though D negs is a fellow Canadian. I gotta keep it 100, Ivey is boss here.

[@salvadorrubio3703]

Daniel Negreanu is just a mastermind he can mess with people's heads 🔥 💯

[@JStraight160lbs]

Negreanu for sure. But definitely Ivey, if he gets to select the brand of cards.

[@stevest8675]

Lol. Good one.

[@jspencer6003]

Some time ago, anyone suggested that I called with Giordano the future pope, the one that has killed in 1600 ! And into the same place he got to the flames 🔥. So ingenuity! 🔥😌

[@rob4419]

Daniel is probably my favorite player aside from Hellmuth, but really I've never seen anything like Ivey. If there's any proof psychics exist it is in videos of him playing and reading other top pros

[@abdessamedbenabdallah4090]

hellmuth is a trash

[@gman7329]

Daniel has a calm soothing voice that reminds me of Edward Norton & his card skills & the way he talks when he gets going makes me think of Rainman! Possibly their love child? 🤔🤣

[@FRANK1EOM]

Hard question... "Negreanu or Ivey?".. I mean, I think that's a matter of opinon.. I like them both, a lot, but overall I prefer Negreanu. I think he has one thing that makes him unique: small talk. He's the best talker in the world regarding live poker. By far.. The KK folded is an example of it. Phil Evey is more the shark at the table. No small talk, he's there just to wipe your ass off. Negreanu makes your defences go down making you feel good while he's preparing himself to eat you alive exploring weaknesses that you may have shown. I think that takes way more time to work on..

[@FrogsTinyBladder]

5:25 any caddy shack reference is a good reference

[@hugohollevoet2489]

Anyone else actually called pocket 9s at 6:40

[@Sharkdog11b]

My favorite is having commentary done by Nigel from the wild thornberrys

[@spncrbriggs]

Need to see them both go against each other and see who wins more

[@rancidgunner659]

Daniel at 3:29: *is relaxed* Lightenberger:👺

[@monychahal3416]

Danial said it himself on dough Polks podcast that Phil is the best poker player of all time

[@owenoconnor3503]

Ivey is by far a better player than Negreanu

[@gsav1320]

Daniel is more likeable but Phil is a technically better player

[@spencerrubino-finn923]

That call against the ace high is insane lol

[@zachriley9707]

4:40 the camera is on Daniel and you can see him say "deuce of hearts" before the river

[@patriciadavis1393]

I love Mike McDonald because I am Canadian And he makes me proud of his playing. I have never seen anyone with more disconcerting stares than Mike

[@rishikamath6718]

4:42 Negreanu actually said "Deuce of Hearts"

[@andrzejkondracki9796]

I don't think any of them is "better" and probably they both would refrain from commenting either. Two completely different strategies and style of gameplay. Both dangerous. I understand why to most people Daniel's style seems more comprehensible, but that doesn't mean Phil's is any less dangerous.

[@BroqHans]

'The kind of shirt that comes with a free bowl of soup!' LOL

[@lamontviolante]

10:42 absolutely sick

[@sachitjani8050]

the last read was awesome from Daniel, got to fold Kings on a Queen high board with no flush/straight chances

[@LarryJL]

I think Daniel is better at "getting" tells and Ivey is better at reading tells.

[@joaodeluchi2944]

This hand of Ivey reading the opponent against [Ace, 4]. Polk tried a great bluff, looks amazing to me!

[@andrzejkondracki9796]

Well, the commentators suggest that he read Doug for Ax, but in truth we don't know what was happening in Phil's head exactly. He might have read him for a lower pair at first, as an example. He represented a bluff after the river, that I can agree with. Much of the commentary is done suggesting what the players might be thinking while we see their cards. The commentators are much less outspoken and smart when they don't see both players' cards. My take is Phil read Doug for a pair or a pair + high kicker / HC and seeing Doug's raise which represented a set thought he had lost. Good bluff from Doug, a nice steal attempt, proper hesitation and mindfuck from Phil, probably once in three or four times Doug would actually have a set in this hand sequence.

[@patrickodonohue]

2 best players I've ever seen

[@RonaldTungol-j8d]

20:20 absolutely hilarious, another player asks Daniel if the aces or kings were “good”? Meaning would they win the hand lol 😂 and Daniel says of course, that had to burn shlomi up inside lol 😂

[@ebmpinyuri]

Ivey's can read a player so well it's ridiculous

[@jasonhynes1080]

Daniel is better at people but Ivey is better at cards

[@DanielRodriguez-sh4pj]

Daniel is Djokovic Ivey is Federer Daniel is Jordan is Ivey is Kobe Daniel is Tiger Ivey is Mickelson Daniel is Mayweather Jr Ivey is Alli ECT.

[@Snory75]

“Aces or kings was good right?” “OF COURSE” 🤣🤣

[@jaredmitchell1302]

Such a great ending

[@cookiebozo]

I like watching Dan and hearing Phil.

[@silvervirio3642]

I thought phil ivey was just a random poker pro, after watching a documentary featuring him. i became is fan.

[@chrisatkins7959]

He is a known cheater.

[@mdajmainadib5816]

you guys raise my semester fee

[@joeymoloney455]

2 goats of the game and still the daddy's

[@OneOfDisease]

Of the 2 I would rather go heads up against Daniel, Ivy is intimidating AF.

[@liamnevilleviolist1809]

4:53 "did you hear me saying 'deuce of hearts'?" ... wow, another moment where Negreanu has to be validated! :P Don't ever change, my man!

[@therealmichaelscott.]

Ivey’s fold at 10:42 is insane

[@Youknowbigbalin]

Daniel is just awesome. GOAT

[@garretnarjes782]

At 16:52, Ivey is trying to contain his smile. He's very convinced he's taking that pot.

[@Cipher993]

1st hand: I think if Bernstein really had Jacks he would have thought a bit harder about mucking his hand from the 4 bet, plus he looked disappointed after Phil made the bet. Then the cheeky table talk "nice hand what did you have?" & sighing before "I had jacks" definitely looked suspect.

[@anhkiennguyenhoang2963]

Love Daniel

[@johnjohnmajortom]

Negreanu for length of successful career is better overall. Phil ruled his 5-6 year range when he was on top.

[@goodperson7205]

Slight edge to Mr IVEY much respect MR Negreanu😊😊

[@jstandards766]

Fkin young Daniel being a manace at the end 😂😂😭

[@mikrobes33]

«I’m just saying that’s what I thought he had, not that I could beat it.» 💀💀 The other guy: 👁👄👁

[@DMAneoth]

Ivey is a better reader but he does not tell nearly as many about his reads. He keeps them private more often.

[@mrjustice9003]

Daniel of course 😎

[@aperson-ep8rl]

Commentator first clip phil raising UTG knowing Phil has pocket aces "Phil is repping huge strength this guy should fold" 3rd clip 5:09 SAME commentator with phil raising UTG without seeing Phil's cards "Phil's range is pretty wide". This guy commentates poker in such a results orientated way it drives me mad!

[@beastmode7013]

Lmfaooooo sign language for the hearing impaired hahah

[@rickymalik8788]

The last hand Daniel really fooled him 😅

[@pxrposewithnopurpose5801]

negreanu is just on a different level

[@Powetiq1]

Man, I like them both but I will give a slight edge to Phil because he is a card player! He even wins at blackjack. That guy is a card playing freak.

[@Dela-Sin]

Nagranu: I feel comfortable rn, you can tell by my energy. RELAXED cuz it usua- Chewy: All in… Nagranu:HUH… What??🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@adamkhabazian3249]

they both have their hits and misses. I like daniel better because he's a fellow canadian and because I've seen his game more than phil. to be fair, I'd say even though daniel is more of a genius, phil is a more consistent player. daniel makes more mistakes

[@pelimies1818]

..why would you say at the river what the other guy has, if you try to make a value raise??

[@sunsinati2610]

The last one from Daniel was sorcery.

[@1P0T]

I love daniel personality, but ivey is also very intresting person.

[@poxe7961]

he predicted the deuce of hearths at 4:39, dats amazing