Who has the edge in Western Final between Edmonton and Dallas?

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15 күн бұрын

TSN Director of Scouting Craig Button joins SC with Jay Onrait to discuss Kris Knoblauch's first Game 7 win as a head coach, what’s next for the Canucks, and who has the edge between the Stars and the Oilers in the Western Conference Final.

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@blakstud1
@blakstud1 12 күн бұрын
The Desharnais/Nurse pairing and the Kulak/Ceci pairing was a great move! I'll definitely give Knobs credit for that. Desharnais has grown immensely! He is elevating Nurse's game, and the same goes for Kulak elevating Ceci's game.
@Shibs72
@Shibs72 12 күн бұрын
That was all Paul Coffey.
@josephtylerdc9830
@josephtylerdc9830 12 күн бұрын
I believe my stars are the better team overall but under estimating any team at this point is foolish. This will be a great series. Goodluck Oiler fans! Lets Go Stars ⭐
@MatthewSmith-fy5hk
@MatthewSmith-fy5hk 13 күн бұрын
If anybody thinks Dallas doesn't have the edge going into WCF, they haven't been watching the playoffs this year.
@red3here
@red3here 13 күн бұрын
Right.
@johnl2613
@johnl2613 13 күн бұрын
Dallas has the edge on goalie as well.
@user-bi6yf4hv9g
@user-bi6yf4hv9g 13 күн бұрын
Have the edge..., be the favourites ....who cares....the game is won on the ice..
@missstar219
@missstar219 13 күн бұрын
@@user-bi6yf4hv9gand they will win !
@burnedoils
@burnedoils 13 күн бұрын
yes it shows how rediclus ppl are, even if the oilers were to beat the stars, the fact that they think that the star is just a funny team says everything about their mal working brains
@JHockeyFan
@JHockeyFan 12 күн бұрын
Dallas has a significant advantage. I expect the Oilers to push them, but it's Stars' year. Stars in 6
@billygordon7295
@billygordon7295 12 күн бұрын
I think oil in 6. Dallas being off for this long will hurt them game one. Than oilers win both at home.
@DGENR8.
@DGENR8. 12 күн бұрын
@@billygordon7295 Stars in 4
@cmpalmer
@cmpalmer 12 күн бұрын
​@@billygordon7295Dallas was the best team in the league on the road this year and really took that into Colorado. The momentum is what it is, and Edmonton probably does win Game one (as did both Vegas and Colorado), but I see Dallas taking this in 6.
@shawn191
@shawn191 12 күн бұрын
someone explain to me why everybody thinks dallas is a deeper team? oilers top 15 literally had 100 more pts in the reg season than their top 15 guys thats not even close.... bouchard has 2 less points than the entire dallas d core in playoffs, and thats just #2. never mind how the depth pts coming from d men comparatively. and if you look at gga vs gf oilers offence out paces that... oilers not that much of an underdog.... if the oil can keep from coughing up the puck that leads to goals and skinner not let too many weak ones itll be oil in 6
@JHockeyFan
@JHockeyFan 12 күн бұрын
@@shawn191 Oettinger >>>>>> Skinner. Heiskanen >>>>>> Bouchard. Tanev >>>>>> Ekholm. Johnston and Stankoven >>>>>> Oilers depth scoring. Simple man
@sergeant_salty
@sergeant_salty 12 күн бұрын
Can't wait to see how Otter and Dallas handle the Edmonton offense. This is gonna be a great WCF
@carparthero
@carparthero 12 күн бұрын
DAL put on 3 defensive masterclasses against the highest scoring team in the p-off's. then had to score 2x in o/t to wipe out the avalanche. EDM is getting wiped out in 6 games.
@crystalholloway2862
@crystalholloway2862 12 күн бұрын
The stars might have a otter in net but the oilers have two lions and a couple of polar bars to boot! Come on by’s let’s get er done!! Go oilers go!!
@jimbodangle178
@jimbodangle178 12 күн бұрын
They have a top 5, arguably top 3 D in the league in Heiskanen. Add an emerging Harley (imo, being an avs fan), i see him in the same lvl as Toews. Hes a top dman on most nhl teams. Then add tanev lindell etc, on top of 4 scoring defensive forward lines and a tip 5 goalie in the league. But you can never count out Jesus and Drai…
@melasvarco4791
@melasvarco4791 12 күн бұрын
Won’t be a problem
@ChanT3
@ChanT3 12 күн бұрын
@@carpartheroEDM is getting wiped out in four games*
@minstrelca
@minstrelca 13 күн бұрын
Why do these announcers always exaggerate the goalies lol. Pickers could have probably done just as well as Skinner in 6 and 7. He wasn’t that busy and still let in at least one floater. He got hit with the right pucks.
@virnan
@virnan 12 күн бұрын
Skinner is only good if the team plays light out in front of him.
@tseliteiv
@tseliteiv 12 күн бұрын
I actually think the move for Edmonton is to start Picker for Game 1 and then Skinner for game 2 and then Picker for game 3, etc... Rotate them each game. That gives them time to rest. They're both about equally not that skilled so it makes no difference. Between to have them fresh and rested then having the same goalie play the whole series, IMO.
@minstrelca
@minstrelca 11 күн бұрын
@@tseliteiv I agree for sure and if skinner starts in letting in the floaters like he is known to do, move to Picker. Honestly, if the team plays well, then they can perhaps win without goaltending but it's a let's see what happens deal unfortunately.
@rt-rd5of
@rt-rd5of 13 күн бұрын
When Duchene scored in 2OT he said that Avs have better top guys than Stars but they got gassed and Dallas can roll all their lines. Avs and Oilers are very similar teams.
@MisterStealYourChick
@MisterStealYourChick 12 күн бұрын
oilers have a bit more depth I say since avs lost Nichushkin during the 2nd round & no landeskog but it’s gonna be a great series, think edm is rewriting that book st. louis had in 2019 from worst team to cup champs so oilers in 6 or 7.
@Hello-sw3en
@Hello-sw3en 12 күн бұрын
But they dont have 40% poweplay
@Rickeyspaniish
@Rickeyspaniish 12 күн бұрын
Avs are a bit deeper even with Val gone.
@MisterStealYourChick
@MisterStealYourChick 12 күн бұрын
@@Rickeyspaniish delusional
@DGENR8.
@DGENR8. 12 күн бұрын
@@Hello-sw3en dallas doesnt take penalties
@adrianthomas5104
@adrianthomas5104 13 күн бұрын
Craig Button should have been cast on the Sopranos,
@samuelkobe
@samuelkobe 12 күн бұрын
Nah, once he lost out on the role of Mayor of Whoville in The Grinch he quit acting.
@JustinWoodwardComedy
@JustinWoodwardComedy 12 күн бұрын
Is the title wrong? I didn’t even hear Dallas - just talking about Vancouver. Oh wait the last minute.
@scott70
@scott70 13 күн бұрын
Button picked the Leafs to beat Boston 😂
@red3here
@red3here 12 күн бұрын
And they almost did Boston got lucky imo.
@scott70
@scott70 12 күн бұрын
@@red3here The leafs SUCK....lol.
@sherwood5030left6
@sherwood5030left6 12 күн бұрын
We all know you always pick the Leafs to lose.
@andreaskaphengst8121
@andreaskaphengst8121 10 күн бұрын
@@red3here Too many injuries! First Marner and McMann before the playoffs then Nylander (3 games), Mathews (2 games) and Wohl the final game when he was on a roll. I had a feeling that it was somehow rigged like the NFL.
@haysbrickell9579
@haysbrickell9579 12 күн бұрын
I'm going with Dallas over Edmonton. Dallas seems to have the edge in forward depth and goaltending.
@sambabisky4742
@sambabisky4742 12 күн бұрын
Like always, Craig is right on the button.
@metalshorrorhouse-kd1ih
@metalshorrorhouse-kd1ih 13 күн бұрын
Dallas is a juggernaut this year, but the Oilers matchup better with them than Canucks. Think ppl also are forgetting how Elite the top players of the Oilers have been this year in the playoffs just look at the point leaders, now their getting depth scoring as well. Their Goaltending though is still a question mark, but this is going to be a fun WCF!
@MelJoseph-jo9fk
@MelJoseph-jo9fk 13 күн бұрын
The Oilers barely got past the Canucks. A young inexperienced team with key players out of their lineup. Good to be optimistic, but in reality, the Oilers aren't favoured to win against Dallas for good reason.
@shakrmakr
@shakrmakr 13 күн бұрын
Oilers play in the weakest division in the league and played a brutally weak Kings team with a washed 36 year old in net and barely got by a Canucks team with a third stringer in net. Oilers are going to be swept by Dallas or lose in 5.
@Joe_Ma99
@Joe_Ma99 13 күн бұрын
They have racked up the points but neither LA nor Vancouver had as good of defense or goaltender as Dallas. They held the Avs #1 offense and best home team to 3 goals in 3 home games.
@vanylla1433
@vanylla1433 13 күн бұрын
​@@Joe_Ma99Yup that's pretty gross. But remember the Oilers would be first if they didn't have the start they had. From a dissatisfied Jets fan lol 😮😅😢
@andreaskaphengst8121
@andreaskaphengst8121 13 күн бұрын
@@shakrmakr that third stringer played outstanding and if Oettinger doesn’t play as good then it’s going to get hot on the back of his neck.
@gmotdot
@gmotdot 13 күн бұрын
Pettersson is Swedish for Marner
@Pfuetz4
@Pfuetz4 12 күн бұрын
That’s great 😂😂
@DGENR8.
@DGENR8. 12 күн бұрын
LMFAO
@haysbrickell9579
@haysbrickell9579 12 күн бұрын
I'm.always baffled why teams give outlandish salaries to players that simply aren't worth it. I believe that is the case for both Marner and Pettersson.
@red3here
@red3here 12 күн бұрын
🙄
@randybehm5731
@randybehm5731 12 күн бұрын
Petterson?. Oh you mean the guy on the Milk Carton.
@LinkRocks
@LinkRocks 12 күн бұрын
I'm a Stars fan, but have a healthy respect for the Oilers. It's going to be a great series between two teams that can win the Cup. My fandom aside, I do believe Dallas has the deeper team and better goaltending, but sports is fluid so let's see what happens on the ice.
@phlou65
@phlou65 12 күн бұрын
I would like to see pavelksi win one
@bangyahead1
@bangyahead1 10 күн бұрын
More importantly... what impact will the refs have? Lets face it. It's the guys with the whistles who control the outcomes not neccessarily the players
@phlou65
@phlou65 10 күн бұрын
I completely agree with you. On paper Dallas is the better team and I would put money on that. That's the beauty of sports... anything is possible. I think its going to be a hell of a series. I can watch hockey without the stress of screaming at my Canucks.
@BrodyYYC
@BrodyYYC 13 күн бұрын
As a Flames fan it was really weird to be cheering for the Oilers vs the Canucks. But now I'll be cheering for Tanev.
@DGENR8.
@DGENR8. 12 күн бұрын
Tanev shuts down McJesus? I think so.
@mr.8810
@mr.8810 12 күн бұрын
Nobody cares who you are cheering for... go enjoy your summer flames fans... you'll be enjoying those summers for a long time now
@KneeJerkReactions13
@KneeJerkReactions13 12 күн бұрын
Typical flamer
@fastfootedone
@fastfootedone 12 күн бұрын
sorry dude, if you're a true Flames fan, you weren't cheering for Edmonton. That's a practical impossibility.
@BrodyYYC
@BrodyYYC 12 күн бұрын
@@mr.8810 lol you sure got triggered.
@bearsouthof6086
@bearsouthof6086 12 күн бұрын
As a Candian Hockey fan for last 50 years, im telling you straight, no cake walk for either of these teams....the Dallas club lead by a pragmatic intellect in coach, the Oilers, a quiet calculating mastermind. Hard nose Dallas players vs the awoken dog focussed Oilers....this goes 7
@user-yg1dg6xm2g
@user-yg1dg6xm2g 13 күн бұрын
Starting Pickard in Game 1 against Dallas would be a strategic move. This decision would motivate the team to play top-notch defense and put pressure on Skinner to perform well when he returns to goal.
@dannyjimi
@dannyjimi 13 күн бұрын
Similar to the Caps when the won in 2018
@hockeyguy533
@hockeyguy533 13 күн бұрын
I agree 💯%
@taters1123
@taters1123 12 күн бұрын
There’s no way in hell Knoblauch is starting Pickard after Skinner winning two straight
@bendoverDN
@bendoverDN 12 күн бұрын
@@taters1123 Both goalies need to play this series if we want a chance at beating Dallas.
@simondaughtry4619
@simondaughtry4619 13 күн бұрын
OIlers fan here...Dallas is a more complete team.... tighter and far more reliable. Edmonton has leaks everywhere.....Hard to trust a team that can surrender a lead as quickly as Edmonton. And they do consistently. The D core is simply a breakdown machine~ too many jaw dropping basic errors under pressure. Dallas can handle the pressure better...I hope this series goes 6-7 games.
@albertnordine6546
@albertnordine6546 12 күн бұрын
Oiler fan here and I wholeheartedly agree with everything you say here. MacLeod giving the puck away was a weak play, putting pressure on them. Canucks would have been shut out if it wasn't for that bonehead play, a kind of play that plagues them game in and game out. Goaltending has to show up. Go Oilers!
@minstrelca
@minstrelca 12 күн бұрын
McCloud and one bad icing almost lost them the lead.
@TJ_Loves2fish
@TJ_Loves2fish 12 күн бұрын
The thing about the Oilers is that they always have a punchers chance because of how good their first line is. Their defense stepped up and only allowed 17 shots last night. All it takes is a couple off games for Dallas, which they've shown they can do, and the series could go either way.
@popsmoke99
@popsmoke99 12 күн бұрын
@@TJ_Loves2fish yep~ the oilers can play down to worse teams and play up to better teams... true. This series will spell it out!
@devonlambert5179
@devonlambert5179 12 күн бұрын
That was terrible icng. Literally 3 strides and out​@@minstrelca
@TheChuckles1985
@TheChuckles1985 12 күн бұрын
Gotta give the Assistant coaches props to they also helped out lots too :) they never seem to get enough credit its always the HEAD COACH :)
@archangelgabriel5316
@archangelgabriel5316 12 күн бұрын
Yea considering Paul Coffey is a 4 time Stanley Cup 3 time Norris trophy winner and played with the best players
@user-bi6yf4hv9g
@user-bi6yf4hv9g 13 күн бұрын
Dallas are favourites....End of story! ...That's perfectly fine with me..Coming from an Oiler fan. Gonna be fun!
@Kells-Cardinal
@Kells-Cardinal 13 күн бұрын
Hahhaa some fucking fan
@user-bi6yf4hv9g
@user-bi6yf4hv9g 13 күн бұрын
The pressure is on Dallas.
@andrewcotton421
@andrewcotton421 13 күн бұрын
You can say they are favorites but yet believe your team will somehow pull through. Oilers will prevail!
@719sikora
@719sikora 13 күн бұрын
@@Kells-Cardinal It’s called being a realist. We have a chance of beating Dallas, but they are definitely the favorite to win. Our fan base is a bit unreasonable when it comes to expectations.
@DGENR8.
@DGENR8. 12 күн бұрын
As a lifelong Stars fan, I got Stars in 4. I do not see this WCF being close at all.
@joshli1094
@joshli1094 12 күн бұрын
Being an underdog is perfectly fine since at the end of the day, neither the 'experts' picks' nor previous records matter much, if not, The jets and Nucks should still prevail. No doubt about the overall depth of the Stars, but let's not forget that they do leak versus the Avalanche on couple occasions, Oilers in 7.
@Skynertia
@Skynertia 12 күн бұрын
The Oilers finally get to be the underdogs. I doubt Skinner plays as poorly against Dallas as he did Vancouver. But if they want any chance at winning then McDavid and Draisaitl have to solve Oettinger fast.
@failcomp9915
@failcomp9915 12 күн бұрын
It’s nuts that the oilers made it to wcf with Calvin pickard as there back just shows the year they are having
@KneeJerkReactions13
@KneeJerkReactions13 12 күн бұрын
Dallas is stacked but Edmonton is my club of choice. Going to 7 games for sure.
@grahamchan4266
@grahamchan4266 12 күн бұрын
Heres to Edmonton taking the conference final in 7 🎉
@bangyahead1
@bangyahead1 10 күн бұрын
Wake up, Dorothy. You're not in Kansas anymore.
@willle464
@willle464 5 сағат бұрын
No thanks! 6 games is enough.
@mountstephen6810
@mountstephen6810 13 күн бұрын
McDavid is the powerhouse for the oilers but isn’t going full throttle because he’s still sick. If he gets better, quickly, he will be a much more formidable force to help the oilers win. The Stars have done incredibly and have shown that they are a force to be reckoned with as well. It should be quite the series. The litmus test will be game one.
@Jk-vx1vi
@Jk-vx1vi 12 күн бұрын
Draisaitl is not mcdavid
@sukhjitsingh8269
@sukhjitsingh8269 12 күн бұрын
but dallas has taken out the powerhouses in Vegas and Colorado and Oilers have taken out Kings and Canucks (missing Demko, Petterson & brock for game 7
@joshtracy4441
@joshtracy4441 12 күн бұрын
Dallas has lost all game 1’s…
@franklindtiger
@franklindtiger 12 күн бұрын
On some nights, Draisaitl is better than McDavid.
@haysbrickell9579
@haysbrickell9579 12 күн бұрын
If Dallas wins, I'm for them in the finals. If Edmonton wins, then I'm for either Florida or the Rangers.
@neostar63
@neostar63 13 күн бұрын
Dallas has better depth upfront, better defence and goaltending Edmonton has the superstar pair in McDavid, Draisaitl. If they played like they did the last two games they have a chance
@user-bi6yf4hv9g
@user-bi6yf4hv9g 13 күн бұрын
Dallas might have better goaltending but everywhere else they're pretty even imo ....but they better give their goalie help, especially on the pp.
@kwaty
@kwaty 12 күн бұрын
Both carrying injury & 97 possibly illness as well. Maybe they can elevate but it’s gonna be tough. Not expecting an oil upset but that’s why they play the games.
@seanmacdonald9808
@seanmacdonald9808 12 күн бұрын
You cant forget Edmontons power play that can kill teams oilers havent taken to many penalties either so dallas has to be very mindful of that should be a good series
@DGENR8.
@DGENR8. 12 күн бұрын
@@user-bi6yf4hv9gDallas had eight 20 goal scorers this season
@DGENR8.
@DGENR8. 12 күн бұрын
@@seanmacdonald9808yes how can we forget about the refs rigging it in favor of Edmonton (as usual).
@patbrennan6572
@patbrennan6572 12 күн бұрын
I never make predictions on something I have no control over, however, home ice means very little any more and Dallas is living proof of that.
@kevinweir2499
@kevinweir2499 13 күн бұрын
Sure Dallas has good depth but Hintz might not be available for the series. He's currently out day to day with an injury. That said the Stars are still good enough even without their #1 center.
@DGENR8.
@DGENR8. 12 күн бұрын
Hintz will be playing game 2 at the latest
@Maxharddrive64
@Maxharddrive64 12 күн бұрын
Dallas has the edge in goaltending but what will keep this series close is if the Stars can't stay out of the Penalty Box. Putting Edmonton on the power play it's just asking for trouble
@leewi1773
@leewi1773 12 күн бұрын
As a oilers fan even I have to say the stars are the clear favorite
@archangelgabriel5316
@archangelgabriel5316 12 күн бұрын
You have 5 oilers in top 5. Top Pk and Top PP. Advantage Oilers. Dallas D much weaker. But deeper forwards. It will all be up to Skinner. That is all.
@kevinnegoro1118
@kevinnegoro1118 12 күн бұрын
It's good to read the realistic take by the Oiler fans on this thread
@justguy6338
@justguy6338 12 күн бұрын
Dallas has the advantage. Oilers are even more top-heavy than Colorado with even shakier goaltending. I'd love to see the Oilers win, I want a cup in Canada, but I'd be surprised to see them bump off Dallas
@shawnthibodeau189
@shawnthibodeau189 12 күн бұрын
Oilers are gonna have to play solid D to make it through Dallas. They know the goals will come so it’s gonna come down to keep in to pucks out of their net
@USGovsOwnersRtheRealEnemy
@USGovsOwnersRtheRealEnemy 12 күн бұрын
As a Stars fan, I’m excited about this series. To be the best, you must beat the best and this Stars team has the formula to shut down high flying offenses like the Avs Knights and now the Oilers. You can’t beat what you can’t score on. Go get it Stars ⭐️
@homerguy4444
@homerguy4444 13 күн бұрын
Oilers in 7
@red3here
@red3here 13 күн бұрын
Not vs Dallas.
@user-bi6yf4hv9g
@user-bi6yf4hv9g 13 күн бұрын
Dallas too old.
@zubiecup
@zubiecup 13 күн бұрын
​@user-bi6yf4hv9g um...no, they're really not. They have the NHL's fourth youngest core and the youngest of all contenders. Yeah, they may have a couple of older players, but all championship teams need veteran leadership, as well.
@shakrmakr
@shakrmakr 13 күн бұрын
Oilers are getting swept or losing in 5.
@RC30018
@RC30018 13 күн бұрын
😂😂😂 you guys barely beated the Canucks in the second round I wouldn't get a head of yourselfs yet.
@johnmalter761
@johnmalter761 12 күн бұрын
Dallas will ride Jake Oettinger to raise the cup this year. Too good on Defense and depth to get them through.
@spencermichielsen9913
@spencermichielsen9913 11 күн бұрын
The WCF winner wins the cup. Though I predict Oilers in 6. Every matchup is different, and the Oilers play better into Dallas than they do into LA and Vancouver (though Dallas is undeniably, significantly better than a team like LA). This series will come down to how well Dallas manages Edmonton's special teams vs. Edmonton managing Dallas' odd man rush and extended o-zone time. Goaltending for the Oilers has to be >88% this series: all 4 Dallas lines will be throwing pucks on net.
@progrocker2112
@progrocker2112 12 күн бұрын
I don't know much about the nuts and bolts of hockey like the gentlemen here and the online banter but it seems the Stars have been really good since getting Chris Tanev.
@mcdaviddeservesbetter8
@mcdaviddeservesbetter8 13 күн бұрын
No one really believes Dallas can lose this series. We’re kind of playing with house money.
@red3here
@red3here 12 күн бұрын
Some think they will lol.
@KneeJerkReactions13
@KneeJerkReactions13 12 күн бұрын
Wanna bet?
@rv2167
@rv2167 12 күн бұрын
Oil are supposed to win the cup. House money? Hhahahahah
@TiggaTrey
@TiggaTrey 12 күн бұрын
@@rv2167 dallas was suppose to win the cup in 2020 their past cup or bust..... oilers are the underdogs for sure
@raininggiraffes7087
@raininggiraffes7087 12 күн бұрын
House money is the biggest fucking loser mentality term in sports. It was embarrassing when Canucks fans were saying it, and its embarrassing now that Oilers fans are saying it.
@mr.romaro3422
@mr.romaro3422 13 күн бұрын
Dallas fans are getting too cocky with most of their teams running deep into the playoffs. Stars a good team but not foolproof
@CastleBrookKrew
@CastleBrookKrew 12 күн бұрын
I love the over confidence
@DGENR8.
@DGENR8. 12 күн бұрын
Dallas in 4, suck it Deadmonton fans
@Swgh325
@Swgh325 12 күн бұрын
We aren’t over confident. We are real. Dallas was the best team this year and Edmonton got a long stretch of games against bottom of the barrel and middle of the pack teams which helped them a lot.
@randomassname445
@randomassname445 12 күн бұрын
​@@DGENR8.Dallas fans way too cocky. Gonna hurt all the more when the oilers sweep the series right out from under fraudllas.
@randomassname445
@randomassname445 12 күн бұрын
​@@Swgh325Reg season means nothing in the play offs. I didn't see your team go on a 16 win streak. Stars have faced weak teams just as much as Edmonton. Oilers in 4. Dallas are frauds. LETS GO OILERS!!!!!
@nobodyhre
@nobodyhre 12 күн бұрын
Dallas Stars: 0 players over 100 points, 8 players with 20+ goals in the regular season. 0 players in top 10 nhl scoring in playoffs Edmonton Oilers: 2 players with 100+ points, 6 players with 20+ goals in the regular season. 4 players leading the league in playoff scoring with 3 forwards and 1 defencemen. Stars don't have a chance. Oilers in 5
@jeffpilkington5627
@jeffpilkington5627 12 күн бұрын
What a joke, how about 6 players with 30 plus goals, Oilers none, I will leave it at that.
@nobodyhre
@nobodyhre 12 күн бұрын
@@jeffpilkington5627 2 players with 30 plus goals....hmmm how are those players doing in the playoffs? Not even 1 dallas star in the top 10 playoff scoring. We are not in the regular season anymore. Playoffs all that matter lol
@robertchristiansilva280
@robertchristiansilva280 12 күн бұрын
Dallas beat the two former Champs, maybe you got Holloway as a X factor, but if Hintz is healthy watch out.
@danferguson2724
@danferguson2724 12 күн бұрын
@@robertchristiansilva280 Crazy if DAL wins the cup and Oilers will have been eliminated 3 years in a row by the eventual champ.
@jeffpilkington5627
@jeffpilkington5627 11 күн бұрын
@@nobodyhre exactly my point homie, Oilers are one line TEAM period, do not even question that fact. Have all the points you want, but if can't roll 4 lines like THE DALLAS STARS can, no point in even making a comment about who has this or that.
@wainber1
@wainber1 13 күн бұрын
I'd like to believe, in response to the question that forms the title of the relevant TSN segment, that the Oilers will have an edge over the Stars. Even if the Oilers do, I don't see them winning that series, should they win that series, in under 6 games.
@wainber1
@wainber1 13 күн бұрын
@y0utubedude96 I won't apologize whatsoever for the way that I wrote my comment thank you very much.
@Derek_Reynolds
@Derek_Reynolds 13 күн бұрын
Dallas is stellar all around
@andrewcotton421
@andrewcotton421 13 күн бұрын
Oilers will find their cracks. Every team has them. Our coach has changed things up when needed and that might be our advantage!
@Derek_Reynolds
@Derek_Reynolds 13 күн бұрын
@@andrewcotton421 i hope so ! lets go oil!
@Swgh325
@Swgh325 12 күн бұрын
@@andrewcotton421 edmontons main problem isn’t even the stats team itself, it’s Peter Devore and knowing how to come back
@frankmarshal7767
@frankmarshal7767 12 күн бұрын
Craig's shirt and tie makin Silovs jealous
@heathclark318
@heathclark318 12 күн бұрын
Lets GO STARS!!!
@xOptions
@xOptions 12 күн бұрын
gonna be a fun WCF don't sleep on dallas if you've been paying any attention these playoffs you'd know this team is LOADED with talent through all 4 lines and still have the AHL mvp on standby. can't forget to mention oettinger who is insanely clutch when it matters. oilers are gonna have their hands full facing this stars team. if the Oilers can get on the powerplay and draw penalties they have a chance. Stars in 6.
@gimmick7389
@gimmick7389 12 күн бұрын
how is this even a question, dallas has a way better team top to bottom
@tophercabba
@tophercabba 12 күн бұрын
one thing the nucks wont have to worry about for a long time is goaltending
@michaelvaldez5095
@michaelvaldez5095 13 күн бұрын
Stars in 6 Tanev will shut McDavid down like McKinnon & Eichel also Dallas has more depth
@Hello-sw3en
@Hello-sw3en 13 күн бұрын
LA def > Dallas def
@Kells-Cardinal
@Kells-Cardinal 13 күн бұрын
Hahahaha ... Nobody is more hungry and Connor and Leon . Good luck
@redrider440ex
@redrider440ex 13 күн бұрын
Tanev didn't shut Edm superstars down when he was in Calgary in the playoffs a couple of years ago and he won't be able to do it this year.
@zubiecup
@zubiecup 13 күн бұрын
​@@Hello-sw3enum...what? Do you mean depth? If so, that's simply not true. Dallas has zero weaknesses right now. That's the first time I've said that about them since 2000.
@user-bi6yf4hv9g
@user-bi6yf4hv9g 13 күн бұрын
Three 6 ' - 6" Dmen couldnt stop McDavid...even when he was sick half the series.
@cocojo3987
@cocojo3987 12 күн бұрын
Will see who has the better power play and penalty kill.
@ev4231
@ev4231 12 күн бұрын
We need Kane to be a X factor this series
@WoundedWarrior77
@WoundedWarrior77 12 күн бұрын
Right on right on
@DUDE72341
@DUDE72341 13 күн бұрын
Comparisons don't mean anything, look at Canucks vs Edmonton..Dallas does have serious depth only time will tell.
@drjx6487
@drjx6487 13 күн бұрын
Oilers was 0-4 vs Canucks in regular season, but beat them in playoffs. Oilers also never lost to Stars in the previous playoff meetings. Who wins WCF? Absolutely Oilers. Who wins Stanley Cup this year? Oilers!
@zestplays
@zestplays 13 күн бұрын
😂
@rt-rd5of
@rt-rd5of 13 күн бұрын
No Demko, No Boeser
@albertnordine6546
@albertnordine6546 12 күн бұрын
@@rt-rd5of Demko couldn't have played any better than Silvos. That rookie kept them in every game so don't moan about it.
@zestplays
@zestplays 12 күн бұрын
@@albertnordine6546 I do believe a healthy Demko has another gear then Silovs although Silovs wasn’t the reason they lost they just played like shit
@dnice4145
@dnice4145 12 күн бұрын
The stars would always beat the oilers in the 90s except one time, what are you talking about? Lol. Anyways that time has long gone.
@kaithemessiah2811
@kaithemessiah2811 11 күн бұрын
I can already tell all the Networks will be on Edmonton's side.
@HamptonHelly
@HamptonHelly 13 күн бұрын
I’m so proud of Edmonton
@DGENR8.
@DGENR8. 12 күн бұрын
I don't understand this "I'm proud of Edmonton" talk. They made it to the WCF. That's like me being proud of Dallas last season, why would I be? They lost. Why are people proud of a team that hasn't even made it to the SCF, yet alone won it?
@datsunlambchops4624
@datsunlambchops4624 12 күн бұрын
​@WhiteOutside I don't understand how someone can be so whiney. The dude is proud of a team that made it to the wcf. A team that had a rough start, struggled with goaltending etc. You just sound like a bi$h, with a little tiny voice in space. Suck it.
@gorgeousgeorge5173
@gorgeousgeorge5173 12 күн бұрын
Minnesota North Stars have such depth! Cool, but 29 and 97 have more points combined that Minnesota's top 2 lines. Depth is good, star power is better. Even Bouchard has as many points as Minnesota's top line. The only way Stars win is if Skins falls apart.
@74701bassman
@74701bassman 12 күн бұрын
Those guys have those points because the oilers came through the cellar of the western conference. The stars played last year's cup champion and the champion of two years ago. If Edmonton had played Vegas and the Avalanche, no way they have that many points. I get it that it's going to be a tough fought series, but to dismiss the stars in that manner is foolish.
@gorgeousgeorge5173
@gorgeousgeorge5173 12 күн бұрын
@@74701bassman I'm referring to the current playoffs, not the season.
@Joe_Ma99
@Joe_Ma99 13 күн бұрын
Clearly the Stars have the edge…be for real.
@jonbenjisnomore7935
@jonbenjisnomore7935 12 күн бұрын
Stars have the edge because of Depth & goaltending. I'm a Oilers fan.
@fastfootedone
@fastfootedone 12 күн бұрын
Dallas is going to dominate this series. Game 1 might be iffy, as the Stars might be a bit cold, but once they get going, the Oilers won't be able to contain their top 3 lines.
@xravaiii
@xravaiii 2 күн бұрын
this isn't aging well
@entertain402
@entertain402 12 күн бұрын
edmonton is a team with a lot of players from Ontario, the hockey capital of the world; ususally those teams do well in playoffs...their only disappointment is not being a Toronto Maple Leaf...
@pth6060
@pth6060 12 күн бұрын
Toronto is a looser city . They loose in hockey They voted for Trudeau They love communism They love lgbtq They love the WEF
@nightwing5405
@nightwing5405 12 күн бұрын
Dallas in 5 mark my words
@alelectric2767
@alelectric2767 12 күн бұрын
Stars in 6 if that. Oil have zero goaltending.
@willle464
@willle464 5 сағат бұрын
You got 6 right, just the wrong team. Next time bud!
@user-we2yt5on9b
@user-we2yt5on9b 12 күн бұрын
Who has the edge ? A bit of a dumb question. Dallas fans pick Dallas. Edmonton fans pick Edmonton. Hockey fans recognize two really good teams and will predict the team that wins 4 games has the edge. No upsets in this year’s playoffs. A few teams had little chance and disappeared in the first round. Since then some good teams have been eliminated. Three more good teams will be eliminated. The overall winners in all this are the fans of the game.
@rollingwins
@rollingwins 12 күн бұрын
Oilers in 6
@Slipings
@Slipings 13 күн бұрын
Oilers in 6 LETS GO OIL
@shakrmakr
@shakrmakr 13 күн бұрын
Not a chance. Getting swept or losing in 5
@Slipings
@Slipings 12 күн бұрын
@@shakrmakr lol thats what canuck fans said
@Slipings
@Slipings 9 күн бұрын
@@shakrmakr so how'd game one go? lol
@dangraesser5341
@dangraesser5341 13 күн бұрын
Why is it that in the world today people have to question the decisions that people make and pass judgments on them. Why not just accept that the decisions were made with thought and integrity and accept the outcome win or lose
@mattboyko09
@mattboyko09 12 күн бұрын
The Oilers have God on their side how about that😂 we’re going to that cup one way or another😎
@virnan
@virnan 12 күн бұрын
Finally Knaublauch heard me through the t.v. screen when yelling for a timeout. The damn dude should have known to do this in game 1. It took Nurse to do his job for him. Don't inflate Knobluach's role too much. He inherited a beast.
@teddymills1
@teddymills1 12 күн бұрын
Do not see Oilers getting past Stars.
@LucaVespa99
@LucaVespa99 12 күн бұрын
Dallas is a 20 to 1 favourite against the Oilers
@BrianStorin
@BrianStorin 13 күн бұрын
Stars have more depth scoring better goaltending and a great coach! They will crush Oilers in 5.
@red3here
@red3here 13 күн бұрын
100%.
@Slipings
@Slipings 13 күн бұрын
They wont tho lol Dallas will have a very hard time dealing with just 2 of the Oilers line. All 4 of them are very capable like their 3 defensive pairings. the only thing stars have better is goaltending it'll be a very even and fair series
@shakrmakr
@shakrmakr 13 күн бұрын
@@SlipingsOilers have shit depth, suck 5 on 5 and have shitty goaltending.
@robert-lx5ry
@robert-lx5ry 13 күн бұрын
@@Slipingsask the avs oilers don’t have 4 solid lines like Dallas
@randoir1863
@randoir1863 13 күн бұрын
Craig knows ! Brilliant hockey mind !
@johnnybaxter1953
@johnnybaxter1953 12 күн бұрын
In hindsight, the Canucks should have waited until after the playoffs to give Pettersson his contract..
@TH-tl6sy
@TH-tl6sy 12 күн бұрын
Oiler fan but gotta give the edge to Dallas. As much as I would love to see the oil win the cup again I honestly believe the final will be Dallas Rangers with Rangers coming out as champs
@VangeliRock
@VangeliRock 12 күн бұрын
As a Canadian and a Toronto boy, it would be real nice to see Edmonton in Stanley Cup finals. Really hope this happens.
@red3here
@red3here 12 күн бұрын
Why lol?
@dereks1848
@dereks1848 13 күн бұрын
Dallas has way more depth than Edmonton. EDM will probably tank in the WCF yet again & the East will take home the cup this year imo.
@red3here
@red3here 13 күн бұрын
Facts.
@Slipings
@Slipings 13 күн бұрын
They really dont tho. EDM also have 3 of the top scorers in the playoffs so far with another 2 (Nuge & Hyman being top 11.) Stars have 1 player in the top 11. We have about the same amount of depth as dallas does i think it'll be a very tough and even series and may the best team move forward.
@missstar219
@missstar219 13 күн бұрын
@@Slipingsdallas has been able to shutdown mackinnon and eichel you really have one line
@therealjezzyc6209
@therealjezzyc6209 13 күн бұрын
​@@missstar219 McDavid and Draisaitl don't even play on the same line though
@user-bi6yf4hv9g
@user-bi6yf4hv9g 13 күн бұрын
Not to forget the best PP n best PK in the playoffs, and 2 wizards....has to count for something..
@MarkSmith-ho5yc
@MarkSmith-ho5yc 13 күн бұрын
I doubt that Edmontons powerplay will be effective against Dallas.Dallas has 8 20 goal scorers and thats not including Logan Stankovan.Heiskanan and Tanev will give Mcdavid and Draisaitl a hard time as well.Dallas in 6.
@shakrmakr
@shakrmakr 13 күн бұрын
Amen. Oilers aren’t a good 5 on 5 team and they are finally playing an elite goalie. They are going to get destroyed.
@albertnordine6546
@albertnordine6546 12 күн бұрын
@@shakrmakr And Silvos wasn't "elite".
@Swgh325
@Swgh325 12 күн бұрын
@@albertnordine6546 we haven’t seen Silovs enough. For all we know the entire canucks goaltending can be horrible but their defense is just that good
@hockeyguy533
@hockeyguy533 13 күн бұрын
I think this is a better match up for McDavid then facing Miller or Lindholm who are 2 great two way centers that been on McDavid all series. If so i think Edmonton has the advantage, Oilers in 5🫡
@shakrmakr
@shakrmakr 13 күн бұрын
Oilers are going to lose in 5 or getting swept. The Oilers barely got by an overrated team with a third string goalie in net. Oilers always get destroyed when they finally play a good team in the playoffs
@hockeyguy533
@hockeyguy533 12 күн бұрын
Your delusional if you think oilers are getting swept, they been arguably the best team in the regular season since coaching change and its carrying on into the playoffs. If this team can play the way they played all playoffs they can beat any team imo. Either way gonna be good to watch
@PBgamer169
@PBgamer169 12 күн бұрын
Pettersson will figure it out next season
@dunkydog1676
@dunkydog1676 12 күн бұрын
Need to put sam gagner in
@archangel0071
@archangel0071 12 күн бұрын
as long as Oilers don't choke, they have a chance.
@JesMcdld-nb6pg
@JesMcdld-nb6pg 12 күн бұрын
Like all playoffs it's anybody's win I think oilers are a more experienced team then Dallas the person that said it best was LA kings captain when they lost series Edmonton has changed from the team I was use to playing to a smarter experienced team that he has saw and this is Daugh the captain who has played oil every playoffs series last 4 years
@bangyahead1
@bangyahead1 10 күн бұрын
McDavid and Draistl have to face a Stars team that happens to be very adept at, and takes great pride in, shutting down McDavid and Draistl. They reckon, and Rightly so, that if you can take those two out of the game, the Oilers arent much two worry about. Dallas can roll four lines, without double-shifting its top players. The Oilers have to double shift McDavid and Draistl and that is eventually going to take its toll. If McDavid is going to serial high stick people, let everybody else do it too. He gets away with way too much BS.
@oilerssixpack2629
@oilerssixpack2629 13 күн бұрын
Greg it doesn’t matter who you like it’s Oilers all the was
@cmpalmer
@cmpalmer 12 күн бұрын
"who has the edge in the western final between Edmonton and Dallas?" Talks about the Canucks for 6 of 8mins.
@74701bassman
@74701bassman 12 күн бұрын
I get it that the Oilers have scored a bunch of goals, and Dallas has not scored that many. I get it that the Oilers have players that are very high in the playoff goals count and Dallas does not. But what I have not seen in all these comments is this. Edmonton came through the cellar of the west. Can any of the teams in the Oilers bracket even remotely hold a candle to Vegas, and Colorado, the previous two cup winners. I think not. I am not saying that this is going to be a cake walk for Dallas, after all, it is the playoffs. The high-flying scoring of the oilers is at an end. People for generations have said in all professional sports that "Defense wins Championships." Dallas has that. If the oiler fans think for a moment that Edmonton would have fared better going through the gauntlet against Vegas and Colorado, they would be sadly mistaken. The difference will be that Dallas has 4 lines that can score and defend, Edmonton does not. I am not going to be so misguided to think the Stars will sweep the Oilers, but I do believe they will win the series.
@hughjass1044
@hughjass1044 12 күн бұрын
Dallas in 5.
@josemoreno9937
@josemoreno9937 12 күн бұрын
Dallas is a great team, but in playoffs not always the best team wins 😎
@brianw3749
@brianw3749 12 күн бұрын
Stars have the edge. The canucks were hard on the oilers last series and so they are more worn out and lack the days of rest that the stars got. Stars win in 6.
@KL-bb6gb
@KL-bb6gb 12 күн бұрын
Imagine those Oilers will shock the world and beat those Stars this year : )
@67Star65
@67Star65 13 күн бұрын
... Oilers are the underdogs of the final 4.
@DUDE72341
@DUDE72341 13 күн бұрын
nope florida is, check out analytics on money puck!
@joshtracy4441
@joshtracy4441 12 күн бұрын
@@DUDE72341I can pull up multiple books right now. Florida is top, then Dallas, followed by Edmonton THEN rangers.
@BenjaminDaCunha-ys8ty
@BenjaminDaCunha-ys8ty 12 күн бұрын
Dallas has a deeper team and obvious better goaltender. But as far as regular season goes, both teams are nearly identical in Regulation Wins, Goals For and Goals against. And this playoffs Edmonton has the top 4 point producers out of all teams, Dallas doesn’t have any in the top 10. Oilers are #1 in power play and penalty kill and Dallas are 11th in penalty kill. I don’t know how this will turn out but I don’t think it’s gonna be a blow out either way.
@DGENR8.
@DGENR8. 12 күн бұрын
Dallas in 4. Vegas and Colorado are far better competition. Dallas has a better goalie and this series between Dallas and Edmonton will prove why goalies are the most important players on the team, not McJesus
@DGENR8.
@DGENR8. 12 күн бұрын
Stars in 4
@erickearns9812
@erickearns9812 12 күн бұрын
Shut down one major Edmonton line and this is Dallas in 6
@PhilipWilcoxNewfie
@PhilipWilcoxNewfie 12 күн бұрын
Oilers fan here one word…. GOALTENDING I’m not hopeful.
@KyleFunk21
@KyleFunk21 13 күн бұрын
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