Who Has The Heaviest ATP Forehand? (2024 Season Analytics Deep-Dive) | Monday Match Analysis

[@ranrabi9381]

What a phenomenal geek out! One of my favorite MMA episodes ever

[@joannemoore3976]

Really enjoyed this nerd-out, thanks guys

[@tobiasgoldman]

Tom Corrie is BY FAR the most interesting guest you have on your shows Gill. Everything he says is quality and backed up by in depth knowledge and more importantly, data. No empty commentary here.

[@gilafunk]

Wow this was fascinating. First experience hearing how detailed and insightful these kind of analytics are. Amazing technology.

[@al1976-v7m]

GMP with 9.50 serve quality is completely in a league of his own...

[@Soffi_Sof]

The part about Zverevs forehand is so interesting and so well explained! Many people tend to overlook how good his forehand can be, because as you said, it is not the flashy or cracking stroke, but he can certainly blast winners and love his forehand down the line.

[@suit_darkness]

Just gonna echo most of the comments here that this is one of your best episodes and Tom just gotta be one of your best guests. Pls invite him back more often.

[@tnuyx9405]

Probs my fav MMA episode ever up there with the slam final analyses

[@soulm8here108]

Dimitrov: 4th in FH category, 6th BH category(the only 1HBH in top 10). Deserves much more praises from all the tennis creators on KZbin.

[@SJ-di5zu]

Always love the videos about tennis insights. It’s fascinating to see the metrics they use. I was a little surprised at seeing Zverev kinda low in backhand RPM+MPH. Sinner/Alcaraz were well above him while Zverev was around Fritz/Djokovic. I always thought of Zverev as the type to hit a hard rally ball off the BH, and figured that of the top 10 he is probably the most likely to attack with the BH on a +1 off the serve, whereas Sinner/Alcaraz/Djokovic/Fritz all have reliably damaging forehands to go off of.

[@ptiwari2392]

Yesssssss fuck yes i love these supe4 in depth analytical videos with this dude!!!

[@mattbrashfanatic6162]

Casper not being in the thumbnail is crazyyyy haha i love his forehand

[@rajeshsmusical]

Rudd is a joke

[@slimsleeper2150]

@@rajeshsmusical agree, 3 times grand slam finalist and 2 times atp finals finalist is a joke

[@rajeshsmusical]

@@slimsleeper2150 you can like him. i feel his game is boring and in the year he rose to top 3 was a fluke because no other player played well. that is fact. u can take it or leave it

[@warrenmiller2044]

@@rajeshsmusical top 2 and alcaraz novak and rafa all were strong that year

[@juedionne925]

​@@rajeshsmusical you have the right to didn't like his playstyle or watching him... but calling him "a joke" or "just lucky" for his results is really odd ! That guy is so much underappreciated !

[@AGAU1022]

Grigor's topspin backhand gets an advantage in the stats because he only hits it when he's in a great position to hit it. He doesn't really use it on the stretch because he just uses his slice most of the time.

[@MasseyVF]

Love this stuff & Tom Corrie - can't get enough. It would be great if you could put the nerdy videos together on your account page including when you have included tennis insight in event previews 🙏✨️

[@aviberezovskiy7633]

Great show!

[@nilsandersson6208]

Aloha spreading the love of tennis! This is great yes! 💛

[@malekat8539]

One of my favorite types of MMA! Love these more nerdy MMAs

[@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten]

I really want to know where Fonseca lands on the weight of shot chart on backhands and forehands.

[@JA-dh7gk]

This video is amazing. So fascinating to listen to!!

[@andrewash9318]

What about average shot height over the net?

[@ippolit4262]

I'll take a ton of stock from this video absolutely great insightful content but one thing for sure i wont take away is Casper ruud having a top 10 backhand its understandable why it could be but i also think it demonstrates the fine margin of error of the technology at the same time i mean hurkacz (tommy paul, de minaur also by a lot) has a better backhand than ruud i dont think either player would deny it. The best tennis content out here though, thanks Gil!

[@juedionne925]

Sorry, but I don't think technology made I mistake for Ruud's backhand🤣! You are just another one enguled in the past... maybe it was the weakness of Ruud, but since 2022 he improve it a lot (no choice everyone was targetting that side).... his backhand is a serious shot... BUT not an offensive shot so it's vulnerable, and he did lack of confidence about it ! But it didn't take away the quality of the shot. This year is a proof, he was really using it and it was really efficient, on clay it was more than solid ! So imagine if he find a way to make the backhand more deep in the court on hardcourt and find confidence in the shots... 😳. Watching him play at the United Cup last week, and he start the year strong ! He did beat Hurcacz in straight sets, firing forehand AND backhand all match long !

[@ippolit4262]

@juedionne925 hurkacz has regressed since last year with injuries and you're delusional if you think Ruud has a better backhand than either De Minaur or Tommy Paul. He'd even admit that

[@juedionne925]

@@ippolit4262 Casper always self-deprecating himself... so of course he will say that... and he has not really confidence in this shot, even if it's a good shot. So it has certainly an impact when you doubt about the shot ! The backhand has definitely improved a lot this year (there is even an article on the ATP website about Casper's backhand down the line improvement) !

[@stevesato5556]

Although it would obviously be affected by surface prevalence, how about time bounce to contact? (who takes it early)

[@lsb9073]

I'd love you to do this for the 3 periods of the Big3. Early, Mid-career, Late. Maybe for an end-of-year for the other channel 3?

[@EvelynTucci-h9x]

F**k yeah tennis nerd-out session. Would absolutely not mind a conversation like this becoming a more common thing, like after every Slam (schedules allowing of course).

[@BHdowntheline]

These stats can't be the reference cuz they're constantly changing once in a while based on players work on the court. For example Rublev's forehand is much better than this to be under Musseti. It's just about his season with many ups and downs this year.

[@lucaswu1522]

Tom Corrie lowkey looks like Rafa

[@choide19]

damn, never woulda thought that but he kinda does

[@km10is]

From the thumbnail I thought it was Raff, but then I was like, why isn't that a part of the title?

[@MB-zh3jk]

Hes not that bald

[@tennis-fan]

Haha...yeah

[@carniedph]

This data is sweeeeeet.

[@3LAMESTUDIO]

Sinner!

[@km10is]

Right! Which is why he has all of 1 title on clay!

[@Floodland-bn3ol]

So Musetti has one of best forehands in the world in isolation? Sweet.

[@GiacomoArturi]

So weird

[@k.alvarado6237]

Con-Ton Halys (Kwin-Ten)

[@GillGross]

@@k.alvarado6237 no it’s not Kwin-ten…. That’s how I was saying it at first and the French people made fun of me 😂

[@imkursed7393]

Isn’t it Ruud? Doesn’t he have the highest forehand RPMs on tour in the 2020s

[@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten]

He did at some point but he could have been overtaken and weight of shot is not just about spin, but spin AND speed.

[@juedionne925]

It was until 2023... when Fils came on Tour (In 2022 Casper end the year with the best forehand with 8.5 for shot quality). But Casper's forehand is more deadly because it's more reliable and less errors with it. Fils problem is that it's fast... but really often off the court !

[@ProbablyLying]

I'm saying it everywhere. Fils will be top 10 in 2025 and will win a Masters 1000

[@ZlatniPlast]

Woooooah. Slow down buddy. He might enter top10 but Masters? Nope

[@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten]

​@@ZlatniPlast Popyrin won a masters tournament this year, so with an easier draw it's possible.

[@alburaq3290]

​@@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten Anything is possible by that logic. Nobody could've predicted Popyrin winning a Masters in 2024. Things like this can happen but rarely. I don't think Fils can win a Masters yet.

[@ZlatniPlast]

@@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten Fils is still a kid. Popyrin is experienced player in his prime plus biggest obstacles didn't play. Chances of Fils winning a masters in 2025 are like 2%

[@SJ-di5zu]

@@ZlatniPlastI feel like so many of y’all don’t realize the guy is already #20. Taking that leap really wouldn’t be that big a shock. And yes, he excelled indoors, but he also won a title on clay at Hamburg showing that his form translates across surfaces. Honestly, not sure why he isn’t getting more hype. Huge hitter, great athlete, and already top 20 at age 20.

[@Floodland-bn3ol]

This confirms that people that believe the one hander is inferior are sheep. It's not the stroke but rather it's the coaches that cannot teach it, the players that caonnot utilize it and the tennis parents who have first level thinking.

[@GiacomoArturi]

It is inferior, return is the reason

[@JayneBangert]

Carlos beat Sinner in 2024 all matches - he was also out of action first quarter - Sinner on the other hand was ill but later it came out he was done for d*ping not once but twice. Only one champ on my mind - how can Sinner be ATP fav winner - says a lot about tennis and the fans

[@Bigbanggbig]

Delusional hater

[@jvo3777]

Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." -John 14:6

[@rajeshsmusical]

You can’t put Novak in the same league as sinner zvrev etc in return. He is 3 levels above them

[@ZlatniPlast]

Djokovic supporter, but you are delusional now. Sinner bullies people on their serve games...

[@rajeshsmusical]

@ ha ha joke