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[@OperationStephen]

My response to Jay Smith's message in the comment section: @pfanderfilms - Dear Jay Smith - Good to hear from you. However not so good to hear this from you. Please make it simple - are you asking me to have unity with Ecumenism, Roman Catholicism, and Eastern Orthodoxy? If that's what you are saying, I'd just have one more person's awareness of history and doctrine that I would have to deal with. Thank you for being Bob's agent and communicating his personal preferences to me - however, I must insist I work for my precious Lord and Saviour, King Jesus, and my ministry targets are determined by the Lord Jesus and His Word and are not subject to negotiation based on personal preferences of yourself or Bob (and not even mine, to a degree). Bob or anyone else is free to do what he wishes / they wish. My mandate is to face and expose problematic ideas (Atheism/Agnosticism, Islam, Roman Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Rabbinic Judaism, Hinduism etc) as I deem appropriate for my Lord's glory - so please ask him not to whine about it when that happens. He/you can't have the cake and eat it too. Please do not misrepresent me - it has never been my intention to have unity with Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy in all my time at Speakers' Corner. So I am really unsure of what you are on about when you talk about your 25 years - perhaps you just mean that YOU intended to be united with doctrines of demons - that's your prerogative - I have no further comments on that. As for me I neither have had nor wish to have any unity with corrupt institutions and doctrines that are against my precious Lord and Saviour who purchased me with His precious blood and who desperately seeks to save millions of perishing followers of Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy. If poor Bob can't face challenges when he markets Ecumenism, Roman Catholicism, and Eastern Orthodoxy please ask him to stay at home. I trust this gives enough clarity. I respect you but I exhort you to get the Word of God centre in your life - a certain verse that goes like "what does it profit a man that he gains the whole world but loses his soul" comes to my mind. God's direction to you. In my precious Lord JESUS' service, Arul

[@mattpistachio5497]

Arul…you still don’t get it.!! Nobody is interfering with what you believe in. But the way you going about it….it’s childish. Bob is not forcing you to believe in what he believes in. AND THIS IS WHAT Jay Smith is trying to tell you. This anti-Catholicism of yours might destroy your ministry. Please watch it.!!

[@sleepwalker7755]

@@mattpistachio5497you haven’t watched the video all the way through have you Matt? Clearly, Arul is proving with scripture that Jay and Bob are not preaching the one Gospel … the one true Gospel. Please don’t be partisan. If Arul is ‘sectarian’ following the narrow path… then, Jay and Bob are following the wide path! We all know where the ‘many’ who follow the wide path are going, don’t we?

[@JasonLovesJesus]

@@mattpistachio5497 Would you say the same to Paul when he challenged Peter? Galatians 2:11-13 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed. For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision. And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.

[@youdonthavetoactreligioust3836]

@@mattpistachio5497 yeah, I am quite shocked why he has chosen to attack fellow brethren ..rather than focus on the Gospel! If he doesn't stop this vendetta I am out from there. I am here for preaching of the Gospel and for the extension of Lord's kingdom and Stay away from foolish and stupid arguments ..

[@mattpistachio5497]

@@JasonLovesJesus …you’re way off topic. Read your Bible properly and not with blinkers on. Did Paul and the Apostles act the way these childish characters are doing.!!? Hear we see Arul acting sanctimoniously and so on…and everyone else is regarded as not knowing scripture as he understands it or is a good enough Christian for that matter.

[@user-ki3ln9lo3d]

Arul , dont be enemies to each other.

[@truthdefenders-]

The Bible teaches clearly that Christians should separate from heretics and unruly folks.

[@dayamra9747]

I'm sure neither has any enmity towards the other. I would like to see them both set aside their differences and talk. This will be useful even for non believers when they meet or hear from Christians from different sects. It will help them understand that there are different perspectives and what the reasons are for those differences.

[@kM-ij2ly]

Bob preaches a satanic idea every church preaches the same gospel which is false

[@miasma5733]

Bob is making it easy. You should be enemies of heretics, for example Islam is a heresy of Christianity.

[@drea7295]

​@@dayamra9747Bob is ecumenical but doesn't accept the more protestant denominations .he believes in praying to the saints doesn't believe in believers baptism, believes in evolution, the big bang , doesn't believe in eternal destruction.belives there could be life on other planets ,believes in dinosaurs. Believes suicide is the blasphemy against the holy spirit.

[@pfanderfilms]

Arul, I love you brother, but this is wrong and spiteful. Please stop this attack against Bob. He's not asking you to worship with him, or even believe in everything he believes in. He is simply asking Christians like you and himself to stand together against Islam and Atheists. He purposely does not debate you on issues relating to Christianity, in order to keep unity between us. We all have issues between us which can easily separate us, but they are not to be brought out at Speaker's Corner. So, can you stop this division, and start bringing the unity which we had for 25 years when I was working there at Speaker's Corner? God bless you, nonetheless, Jay Smith

[@johnkttraining]

well said

[@pipbaxter5286]

AMEN Jay... perfect.❤

[@youdonthavetoactreligioust3836]

Absolutely Jay. Arul and few other Christians have lost it totally and I am shocked. They need to keep their feet on the ground not get emotional as Arul and few others I have seen.

[@youdonthavetoactreligioust3836]

Arul may also be trying get some attention ....

[@Jesusislord107]

But do you weep for the RC and others who are perishing Jay Smith?:the gospel is a primary issue..

[@Thewatchman303]

Thank you so much for calling out Bob’s horrendous celebration of people who murder in the name of Jesus.

[@raphaelfeneje486]

To everyone here taking sides even without watching the video should be embarrassed. I love Bob and I have been listening to him, however truth must be spoken. Ask Bob if Roman Catholics considers him a Christian and inside the Church. He wouldn't answer. If Roman Catholics despise and call Christians outside the Ark, who then is the sectarian?? That we are Christians doesn't mean we can't question doctrines.

[@jessegonzalez7873]

Totally agree. Bob is spreading false catholic idolatry traditions he has to retract from that falsehood to be called himself a Biblical Christian

[@dayamra9747]

Good point.

[@kM-ij2ly]

RCC is sectarian and Bob is sectarian himself

[@raphaelfeneje486]

@@kM-ij2ly Of course he is. I don't know if he knows that.

[@MollyPitcher1778]

I have been a supporter of Bob and usually watch his videos when they pop up in my feed. That said, I have heard him say things that I disagreed with. It would be nice if we all could have a united front when confronting Islam because we know how they will turn it against us to refute all our claims. After all, they think that Mohammad is mentioned in the Song of Solomon. Can't get much more desperate and foolish than that. And it completely ruins a beautiful message of Love. (by design, I have no doubt) What I'm getting to is that teaching church eisegesis doctrines are not appropriate to a severely lost and confused crowd found in Speaker's Corner. The heart of the matter is Jesus, what He did for us and the consequence of what He did that the Islamists SORELY need. That can come later as anyone searching for details of Truth can find in being biblical teachers -- many online.

[@ProfYaffle]

Matthew 7:15-20. ...you will know them by their fruits... In Bob and Arul I see love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Galatians 5:22-26 let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other

[@unicorngav4768]

That's the Holy Spirit talking through you...✝️

[@Gospelized]

Tell that to your enemies when they are breaking the cross over your head

[@love101a3]

There is no middle ground in truth

[@Infjvis]

Arul, you may have some valid points, but you don’t have to attack in the way that you are.

[@kobadaa.952]

better then what the other fella did. this isn’t even an attack.

[@allah-is-a-slavemaster]

@@kobadaa.952 Bob is running from him, hows he able to talk to him? A heretic is heretic. Bob needs to stop preaching and be educated on Jesus, hes leading people astray.

[@odongoelias7367]

Hello Arul, you guys need to come together, not beat each other down. The headline in your video is very condescending, I don't want to unsubscribe, but the attacks on Bob are too much. You guys just have a debate. A respectful one. Air your points out. But not this.

[@OperationStephen]

Hello @odongoelias - Please trust me - my message (as you would hear in the video to come in a few mins) would be the same whether there are 1 million subscribers or 10 subscribers - my first commitment is to the Lord Jesus Christ who loves us all so dearly which leads me to speak the truth in love and this is what I have attempted in this video. My intent is not to beat anyone down as much as attempting to speak clearly on the evil of ecumenism which is rearing its ugly head globally now. Please watch the video and get in touch if you need further clarifications. Brother Greg and team do a livestream on Mondays 8 PM, London time - that is another avenue to get any clarification you need if you are able to join his team live. Looking forward to hearing more from you one way or another.

[@odongoelias7367]

@@OperationStephen Thank you. I will be sure to watch it. I've watched you for the longest time. You have taught a lot about Christianity, through your debates with Mohammed Hijab, Siraj (the guy who never seems to stop interrupting), Uthman (foot note liar) and so many others. I just don't Christians at the park fighting each other, the muslims are already taking over, you guys are front line of Christianity, not only in England, but the world. Thank you

[@youdonthavetoactreligioust3836]

totally agree this was not necessary at all. Arul is getting very emotional. Bob is our brother and he may have his own ideas but doing a stream and sensationalizing is a bit childish.

[@youdonthavetoactreligioust3836]

@@OperationStephen 9 But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless.

[@mattpistachio5497]

@@OperationStephen …you guys are doing a disservice to Christianity as a whole. There is no depth in your discourses…except to label those who have different interpretations from yours as belonging to a “devilish group”. Are you sure about that.!!? It’s too shallow and childish and shortsighted. It’s disappointing. Good to criticise and question and discuss, but not in the self-righteous manner in which you operate. Do you really think and believe that you’re the first ones in the past 2000 years to have found the only true interpretations and meaning of scriptures.!!?? No wonder there are over 40,000 denominations to date and still rising. Remember.!!.. old institutions like the Catholic and Orthodox churches have faced and survived all this before, and stood the passage of time and condemnations that came along the way. Good luck with your new found sect. All l can say is “avoid belittling others in the process, as you delve in the wonderful mysteries of God’s plans”.

[@tonbears]

One of the greatest blessings about our identity in Christ is the grace we’re given in order to grow into the spiritual maturity that truly reflects our new identity (Philippians 1:6). Our lives in light of our identity in Christ are filled with a heavenly Father, a large, loving family, and the understanding that we are citizens of another kingdom and not of this earth.

[@toshikosugi]

I always dreamed of seeing Bob and Arul to come together, but never did I think it would happen like this.

[@samyako9701]

Bob is the only real cristian in England 🇬🇧

[@guruji.2022]

Even Christian Prince said Bob is a heretic, I was shocked but it has been said.

[@whispersuki2241]

why is bob a heretic??

[@song4night]

christian prince himself is not solid on theology. he's fine with catholic, orthodox,etc. Doesn't rightly divide the Word like Arul does.

[@libbaT]

@@song4night I think CP tends to lump all of 'Christendom' together more than Arul would. However, I do think that CP has highlighted that he recognises that there are 'cults' within Christendom that deviate greatly from the 'simple gospel', such as JW's and maybe elements of Adventism. I'm happy to be corrected.

[@serenakaur1131]

​@@libbaTyou are right...i love CP and his ministry but i don't agree with his position on RC,EO etc...its the only thing i strongly disagree with...he probably holds this belief because the Middle East mostly practices Eastern Orthodoxy and he grew up in this envitonment....But to be fair to him,he has said many many times not to follow man and traditions but to just strictly follow CHRIST....shalom

[@libbaT]

@@serenakaur1131 Yes, I concur. Also, with what CP does he has to be careful how he represents ‘Christendom’ as whole as we know our Muslim ‘friends’ will jump at any semblance of division and the whole conversation gets sidetracked away from Islam! It’s the delicate balance between conducting your outreach without compromising the truth, I guess? Shalom.

[@sidcordle6605]

I know "Bob" well. I first met him at his home in 2005 when he told me that he used to be a Christian but was no longer because he was disillusioned with the church. Initially he intended to be a Christian missionary but felt why should he if most people in the church don't care and are half hearted about their faith. His background is not a Christian one but studying different religions at University he came to the conclusion that Islam is clearly a false religion while Christianity is the truth. His knowledge of the Islamic religion is very extensive. He turned round and rediscovered his faith as I prayed for him and with him. However there was one problem. He didn't respect me and attacked me inside the CPA mostly because he consistently felt the crusades were a good thing and there is nothing wrong with Christians using violence. (I was forced to confront him and he left the CPA). This is clearly contrary to Jesus teaching. Then he converted to Catholicism. I told him once you depart from Jesus teaching and accept things that are contrary to what he taught then you lose all spiritual authority. Arul I support you totally. God bless you my brother. But please pray for "Bob". He is very capable and knowledgeable and needs a new encounter with the living Jesus. He doesn't need "education" he needs to arrive at the place of "my sheep hear my voice and I know them and they follow me." BTW I have also talked to Jay about "Bob" because Jay is totally non violent and doesn't support "Bob's" position on this at all but I think Jay respects "Bob's" very extensive knowledge of Islam and "Bob's" position on Islam is spot on.

[@kM-ij2ly]

Amen Sid

[@DW-zm2lk]

you are referring to Jay ..have you read Jay's comment on this stream : Arul, I love you brother, but this is wrong and spiteful. Please stop this attack against Bob. yourself (SID), Arul and some guys seems to have a some kind of jealousy have some issues with Bob... that's what I feel.

[@kM-ij2ly]

Do you not understand Bob promotes false gospel churches do you believe in works for salvation? The Roman Catholic Church and EO church does!

[@chancevonfreund9145]

I agree Sid. Arul and the Christians need to stick together at least in public. The Quran talks about Allah making the Christians turn on each other and that just makes the Muslims more aggressive.The more power they get the worse they will get. Arul,Bob and Chris are my favorites on speakers corner I hope they can stick together. Cheers🍻

[@kM-ij2ly]

@@chancevonfreund9145 When cannot stick together with Christians like Bob who promote false gospels. We can pray for them and if they respond to the Holy Spirit they will change their ways and believe and promote the true gospel

[@InJesusName442]

Lucifer is laughing at us christians now. Keep it up!

[@Christdiedforoursins1Corinthia]

Thanks for this much needed video many on the internet cannot know Bob personally so its a bit difficult to understand exactly what he believes he is a bit secretive on some of his belifs and then slowly introduces false teaching.the problem with videos is the can be edited or you can miss videos where he is teaching heresy.and get side tracked into a debate not taking note if he is preaching truth or error . One problem Ive seen with Bob is he seems to understand the faith ( Christianity) like its a subject in school and so incorporates all forms of "Christianity" even unbibical ones into his belief system,ultimately we need to be in agreement with all scripture .Bob cant choose which denomination or church he blongs to he doesn't have any convictions about things like praying to Mary , even though Jesus himself or the disciples / apostles never taughts such things .in this way he denies what is in scripture , he also doesn't believe in hell as Jesus taught it .he agrees with a few creedal statements that are scriptural but denies the other scriptures that are contrary to what he teaches .he picks and chooses what he wants to believe in he also mimicks or uses the words ideas and speeces of other belivers or "christians"be they living or dead be they true or false in his writing or talks. One video the beginning speech is taken from a Mar Mari sermon word for word .he uses the word christian very broadly it seems at this time for a political agenda .

[@johnkttraining]

Oh my goooooodness,instead of dealing with real issues and targeting non believers, this is the nonsense we are focusing on? Lock in on you and your mission Arul.

[@polarfamily6222]

He is doing just what the Bible has written for these types of situations.

[@dayamra9747]

Targeting non believers? Non believers are not targets. The Body of Christ needs to be led by sound doctrine. These conversations are as necessary as, if not more than the ones with non believers.

[@order-sol0414]

We are called to speak against false teachers not join in agreement with them. Bob is a heretic and NOT a Christian.

[@Catmonks7]

A Catholic would define a Christian as anyone who professes faith in Christ and who has been validly baptized (water baptism). (1) Catholics are Christians; (2) the Catholic Church is the Church Jesus started and which he said would never pass away (Mt 16:18); (3) when Scripture speaks of Christians it speaks of every church member as a Christian, no matter what his “walk with God” may be like; and (4) Christians throughout history have always recognized baptism as the method by which one becomes a Christian. It was not until after the Protestant Reformation was underway that people denied this.

[@thytruth813]

Fantastic work. Bob is brilliant in apologetics and polemics but is heretical on so many different issues. Because of his ability combined with popularity people ignore his heresies or simply aren’t aware of the depth of the heresies. So excellent work, it needs highlighting and exposing. Praise God.

[@markembe9996]

With regards to speakers corner the christians really need to come together. Fighting amongst yourselves will hurt the message of our lord & saviour. I pray for you all to come together. 🙏

[@maikilreategui1271]

I pray you wil talk this out with eachother like gentlement and get along. It is really important for all us Christian to unite now, inspite of differences. I like to believe that you two will overcome these obstacle.

[@kM-ij2ly]

If the differences are the gospel ie salvation then they cannot work together logically as well as biblically

[@whathappening5323]

This is what we are up against, making excuses for this is what you are good at. The followers of Wickliffe, then called Lollards, became extremely numerous, and the clergy were so vexed to see them increase whatever power or influence they might have to molest them in an underhand manner, that they had no authority by law to put them to death. However, the clergy embraced the favourable opportunity and prevailed upon the king to suffer a bill to be brought into parliament, by which all Lollards who remained obstinate, should be delivered over to the secular power, and burnt as heretics. This act was the first in Britain for the burning of people for their religious sentiments; it passed in the year 1401, and was soon after put into execution. You can read the parliamentary document on Google De Heretico Comburendo The first person who suffered in consequence of this cruel act was William Santree, or Sawtree, a priest, who was burnt to death in Smithfield. Soon after this, lord Cobham, in consequence of his attachment to the doctrines of Wickliffe, was accused of heresy, and being condemned to be hanged and burnt, was accordingly executed in Loncoln's-Inn Fields, A. D. 1419. The next man who suffered under this bloody statute was Thomas Bradley, a tailor, and a layman; and a letter having been tendered him, which he refused, he was declared an obstinate heretic, and tied to the stake in Smithfield; where he was burnt alive, rejoicing in the Lord his God. The next person we read of who was tried upon this abominable statute was William Thorpe, a man of some knowledge, who adhered to all the doctrines taught by Wickliffe. He was brought many times before archbishop Arundel, and at last committed a close prisoner, where he died, but in what manner cannot now be ascertained. About this time 36 persons, denominated Lollards, suffered death in St. Giles', for no other reason than professing their attachment to the doctrines of Wickliffe. They were hung on gibbets, and fagots were placed under them, as soon as they were suspended, the fire was set to them, so that they were burnt while hanging. Only one of their names has been transmitted to us, which is that of Sir Roger Archer[188] whom they distinguished from the rest by stripping him stark naked and executing him in that indecent manner. Much about the same time one Richard Turning was burnt alive in Smithfield, and suffered with all that constancy, fortitude, and resignation, which have so much distinguished the primitive Christians. In 1428, Abraham, a monk of Colchester, Milburn White, a priest and John Wade, a priest, were all three apprehended on a charge of heresy. Let me know if you want more information.

[@user-fq6hv9xz5j]

Bob does not want to divide chistendom . He aint gonna fall for the serpents old tricks. He has wisdom.

[@leon5731]

Hi Stephan. Just wanna say lets not divide on our differences but unite on our similarities in Christ. Lets us all firstly love each other and follow Jesus teachings and He will guide us draw us closer to Him in the name of Jesus!

[@polarfamily6222]

That's not what God wrote in the Bible that we should do as Christians in these situations...

[@dougbendo8817]

Dude you sound like a Muslim? I here this foolishness on another channel as well: @GodLogicApologetics 11:42" Why would I trying to debunk what disagreements we have instead of joining with them in giving the gospel to non believers?" Proverbs 14:12 There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way to death. Right here is the problem Trinitarian's have and it the same reason they talk a big game but runs in the end. Below I am going to show you just how big these differences can be! Trinitarian: “You think there’s 2 different trinity’s” No, I THINK there is NO Trinity. You follow fools who preach an Old testament trinity. 1) The Most High 2) Angel of the Lord/ nature Angel (can not do soul atonement) 3) Holy Spirit You also follow fools who preach a New Testament Trinity 1) The Most High 2) Jesus Christ/ nature man (can do soul atonement) 3) Holy Spirit So what is being missed here? 1) Old testament trinity + New Testament Trinity = 2 Trinities 2) can not do soul atonement vs can do soul atonement = 2 different trinities 3) Angel of the Lord/ nature Angel vs Jesus Christ/ nature man = 2 different trinities The key take away in your foolish thinking is Old testament trinity could not provide the perfect blood sacrifice for man to be redeemed in the eyes of the Father. The Angel of the Lord was the intermediate only having the nature of an Angel but NOT the nature of a man who has a soul ( the breath of Life) that tied man to flesh. Without the soul The Angel of the Lord could not be offered as a blood sacrifice. This is why animals had to be the stand in before the coming of Christ. With the New Testament Trinity the Angel of the Lord is “Replaced” by Christ Jesus who is the “word made flesh”. Jesus having the nature of a man meant that the blood requirement for the perfect soul atonement is now made in the eyes of the Father based on Christ death and resurrection. Yup that looks like 2 trinities you be followin! Trinitarian: you think Matthew 23: 9 says not to call anyone father or teacher all the while admitting Paul calls himself teacher in the Bible… Matthew 23 9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. So what don’t you understand about what Christ Commanded? Keywords: “call no man your father upon the earth” So why is that? Keywords: “for one is your Father, which is in heaven” So why do you have a problem about what Christ is commanding you? It’s because you're not saved in spirit. You hold on to your church fathers because you are of the flesh and your fathers are of the flesh. If you were adopted by MY Father in spirit then you would gladly accept Chirst Jesus commandment and proclaim The Most High as your Father but the Holy Spirit (a gift from the father) doesn’t testify with your spirit because your father is the devil. Romans 8 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. --- 14 For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God. 15 The Spirit you received does not make you slaves, so that you live in fear again; rather, the Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship. And by him we cry, “Abba, Father.” 16 The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. 17 Now if we are children, then we are heirs-heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory. As for Paul I did not say he was a teacher. The Holy Spirit appointed him “Teacher” by teaching through him. How could Paul be a teacher when he was blind to these things and it was the Living Word of the Most High source and the works. Paul was just a body the Holy Spirit decided to use. So yes you can be appointed teacher and not be a “teacher”. Trinitarian: “You believe in multiple gods”. I believe in ONE Most High. You believe in God (The Most High) essence divided into 3 persons! That means you believe in 3 God. You also claim God has more than 1 nature… “Christ’s nature is fully God and fully man”! 1) How many souls does Christ have because you claim he has more then one nature? 2) How many spirits does Christ have because you claim he has more then one nature? 3) How do the souls and spirits overlap because you claim Christ has more than one nature? You also claim Christ was the Angel of the Lord… “Christ’s nature is fully God and fully Angel”! 1) How many souls does Christ have because you claim he has more then one nature as an Angel? 2) How many spirits does Christ have because you claim he has more then one nature as an Angel? 3) How do the souls and spirits overlap because you claim Christ has more than one nature an Angel?

[@OperationStephen]

Hello @leon5731 - Thank you for your message. Our first commitment must be to our precious Lord Jesus Christ. There is only one unity I long to have and that is in obedience to His Word as how the Apostles handed down to us. I trust you would appreciate what I am saying.

[@mattpistachio5497]

@@OperationStephen …right now you’re obeying your own voice. Please check yourself. You’re a splendid guy with a lot potential, but something is AMISS and it’s difficult to somewhat put a finger on it. Will pray for you and likewise pray for us too. I know you have an issue with RC…however l beg you to wait for God’s grace and mercy for everything to be revealed unto you.

[@RedWh1teWizard]

Bob is a true legend who knows what he is talking about !!

[@QC....24]

Jesus is my hero, I'd prefer to listen to His Word, thanks 😊

[@kM-ij2ly]

Yes he preaches a false gospel as he promotes false gospel churches

[@QC....24]

@name-vx1od May the Lord Jesus love you and Bless you on your journey 🙏

[@jessegonzalez7873]

Legend or not he is a mere human and he is pressing false catholic idolatry traditions

[@QC....24]

@@jessegonzalez7873 May the Holy Spirit give you discernment in truth, the Lord protect you and your family, I will continue to seek and find Him and His Word, and accept correction, Hope you do too, in the Magnificent Powerful Name of Yeshua, Amen 🙏

[@MastakongoPrez]

Unfortunately, Bob has the habit of giving people names (unitarian, sectarian, etc.) and shouting (not always) during the conversation with the Christian brother as if the entire park were to hear. He should do it when he's debating the Muslims. Jesus didn't enter the world to unite the Christians; ecumenism isn't biblical. How could you unite Christians if you shame Christians publicly? I also heard him say that he believes the Genesis (creation) story isn't literal. As his views are inclined towards ecumenism and Catholicism, I think he should speak for himself, not on behalf of Christians. The Holy Bible is strong enough to instruct believers. Let the Bible speak for God. The Bible doesn't say Genesis isn't literal. Why shouldn't it be factual, and how was the material world brought into existence? If the creation of Adam isn't literal, how was he created?

[@serenakaur1131]

Agreed 100%...Bob's understanding of Genesis is really disturbing....the entire redemptive act of JESUS dying on the Cross rests on the fundamental original sin of Adam and Eve.....a perfect sacrifice was needed to redeem man from the fallen corrupted nature that we inherited thru Adam's sin...you don't have to be rocket scientist to understand this so why can't bob...???

[@MastakongoPrez]

Exactly. It's a complete book that answers all questions from the past, present, and future. For instance, Genesis 3:15 talks about Jesus. To complete the story, we can go to Revelation 12:9 and Luke 10:19. It’s a bit long, but I have to share it. « The great dragon was hurled down-that *_ancient serpent_* called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels were with him. » Revelation 12:9. « Behold, I give unto you power *_to tread on serpents and scorpions,_* and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. » Luc 10:19. He was bruised, beaten, and pierced. He died as the result of the venom of the serpent, who planned his death. And he rose again on the third day with the saints (1 Peter 4:6; Matthew 27:51-53) to inaugurate paradise (Hebrews 10:20-22; Luke 23:43). Did Rasulullah Muhammad crush the head of Shaitan? No! « So the Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this, (...) I will put *_enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; He will crush your head and you will strike his heel._* ” » Genesis 3 :15. *_The seed of the woman is Jesus Christ the Messiah_* Jesus isn’t the seed of a Man. WHICH MAN??? Mary cannot give a child to anyone; only God Can. Jesus is not the son of Maryam, He's the son of God. He doesn't have the DNA of Maryam. *_He entered a body with the Spirit of God; He’s God. GOD IS A SPIRIT,_* Genesis 1 :1-2. He’s the Word of God John 1 :1 (Kalimat Al-Lahu. Surah 4 :171). Jesus never sinned, and he never repented. Adam sinned. Even Muhammad and Solomon sinned; that’s why they died and they’re in hell, 1 King 11:1-10. >>>The Prophet, Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam (May Al_Lah pray on him, and give him peace today, after 1400 years) said, *_ALL of the CHILDREN OF ADAM ARE SINNERS, and the best sinners are those who repent_*

[@MollyPitcher1778]

Thank you. I always enjoy how you handle your hecklers and stand firm in your teaching at Speaker's Corner. This is a great message for all of us (read 'me'). lol God bless you!

[@Angus1966]

you and bob need to talk , you are both good men

[@deanobonitop1610]

ARUL my brother i have nothing but love for you and what you stand for BUT dont go about Brother bob like this man ! The two of use togther will be unstoppable! ☦️✝️

[@lkae4]

When I first started listening to Bob a few years ago, I had a hunch he didn't believe in salvation by grace through faith. All kinds of horrible things can come of that.

[@mudaaa1015]

I am a Protestant but now I actually get what it means. Salvation by faith alone is lazy faith What Our Bible and early church fathers meant was faith without work is like branches of vine which bear no fruit. Faith and works cannot be separated. If you have faith you will work and transform yourself. But if you work alone you won't get salvation same as FAITH ALONE won't get you no where. Didnt Jesus said you didn't feed me when I came you didn't cloth me when I needed? If you say faith alone why are you not working the teachings? Sola fide is easy faith True Faith lies in understanding the Love of Christ and loving others by doing work. True faith bears fruit.

[@lkae4]

@@mudaaa1015 Have you done enough work yet or no?

[@lkae4]

@@mudaaa1015 Isn't it arrogant and low IQ to assume you've done enough? I think it is. It's like declaring that you smell good. Don't you think?

[@lkae4]

@@mudaaa1015 If you think you've done enough, that's just evidence of lack of humility. That's just evidence you need to do much more work on your arrogance. No?

[@lkae4]

@@mudaaa1015 Have you done enough work to be a nice person? A good person? Please ask your pastor and elders for an honest answer.

[@fakenewsjohn1441]

Oh bless you Arul

[@ProfYaffle]

We don't support Bob blindly, Arul. You are making a huge assumption. I support Bob after orayer and consideration. I don't agree with everything he says but hey! Who agrees with everything anyone says? And which of us doesn't get stuff wrong?

[@kM-ij2ly]

Er many do support him blind this is a fact Ecumenical Christianity cannot work when denominations have different ways of getting to heaven

[@kM-ij2ly]

Many here support Bob blindly look at the comments

[@order-sol0414]

@@kM-ij2ly Yup they do. Its absolutely baffling to me how human beings can be so easily deceived by charismatic preachers. The Bible warns us about such persons who speak eloquently with vain philosophies of men.

[@kM-ij2ly]

How can you support Bob after prayer? He promotes church which preach different ways of salvation Roman Catholicism teaches faith and works saved same with Eastern Orthodox but their works are different Bible Christianity true Christianity teaches faith alone saves How can they both be correct?

[@ProfYaffle]

@kM-ij2ly you misrepresent Bob. Shame on you. Bob preaches salvation by grace. Have you actually listened to him? On his most recent QnA even.

[@zacuhuthingo4268]

Bod is the soldier of Jesus Christ, Jesus is with him. May holy spirit be with Bod always amen.

[@Kepha3]

You're the best guy in Speaker's Corner, Arul, but your understanding of Christianity is nothing but a 16th Century innovation.

[@anthonykenaley]

Bless you brother you are a light in darkness..

[@CliffyPillay]

Bless you Araul ❤❤❤❤

[@jeremypitiroi]

Bless you brother Arul 🙏🔥

[@allah-is-a-slavemaster]

Bob made mistake not engaging Arul in dialog, because its through dialog that understanding comes.

[@mattpistachio5497]

It’s because of childish wisdom exhibited by Arul and his colleagues, in particular Bloodfire and Amy with their unchristian uncouth attitude towards Bob, which would put off anyone engaging with them. Bob was/is 100% correct to avoid them. And all this in the presence of muslims. This is not the way to challenge your Christian brother …the Bible states that you should call your brother aside and talk about your differences. Bloodfire and Amy are worse than the muslims and they seem so proud about it. How stupid can one be.!! Something is terribly AMISS in their portrayal of Christianity….they should stick to islamic arguments instead. It suits them.

[@isaiahmcintosh3355]

Well done Arul🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@costa328]

What makes you a Christian is one who is born again by the Spirit. If there's no true repentance, then one should examine themselves, which Bob never mentioned.

[@ProfYaffle]

1 Corinthians 10:12 Therefore let anyone who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall

[@kM-ij2ly]

I have listened and I do not agree with the lordship salvation gospel message preached from 49 minutes onwards but Arul is right about Bob

[@tekglance8895]

Arul please try to meet bob and talk him Among Christians conflict is not good

[@truthdefenders-]

Who said Bob was a Christian?

[@mattpistachio5497]

I suspect Arul and his gang want to destroy Bob’s excellent work. Why.!!? …because their approach is off putting, despite Arul’s claim that he has asked him for a chat. Bob has noticed this and the exposure is now evidential.

[@claud115]

​@@truthdefenders-Wdym? Is Bob not a Christian? It's ridiculous that you deny him as a Christian. We may have different theology but we are one in Our Lord Jesus Christ

[@claud115]

​@@truthdefenders-I'm not a fan of Bob nevertheless I've learned a lot from him but it doesn't mean that I agree in all he says.

[@kM-ij2ly]

Bob refuses to meet

[@Isaiah122]

@Arul Velusamy, I applaud your Christian love for the truth and your courage to take a public stance against Catholicism's powerful institutions, primarily based upon the deception of false unity. Sadly, this position of false unity has become so accepted by many well-meaning Christians, especially within the so-called leadership of both Reformed and Evangelical Christianity. First, I believe what Jesus says, as recorded in the Bible. But I don't accept the Catholic erroneous interpretation that Peter was elevated to supremacy or was the first bishop of Rome. Nor is the Roman Catholic Church the equivalent of the Church of Jesus Christ, as recorded in scripture and testified to by history. It is crucial to reiterate that the Bible is the only detailed record of God, Jesus, the apostles, and the prophets. All other historical sources are mostly commentaries about scripture, not inspired or equivalent to the Bible. This reassurance about the authenticity and reliability of the Bible is a fundamental aspect to remember when evaluating Rome's claims of supreme authority. It provides a solid foundation for understanding the true teachings of Christianity and the differences between Catholicism and Protestantism. Catholicism claims to be the one true Church, and they originate from Jesus Christ and the apostles, with Peter being the first Bishop of Rome (Pope). However, it's important to note that Christianity stems from Jesus Christ and the apostles, not Catholicism. This distinction is crucial to understand, as it sheds light on the disingenuous nature of the Catholic claim, which can be seen as supercilious, self-glorifying, and self-serving. There is no evidence that Peter was ever the bishop of Rome, nor was he elevated to supremacy over the other apostles. The Scriptures suggest the opposite is true. Also, we see no apostolic secession alluded to by Jesus and the apostles, certainly not as taught in Romanism. Compared to the teachings of Jesus and the apostles, Catholicism teaches a different authority, a different gospel, and a different plan of salvation, which indicates it's not Christian but pseudo-Christian. This distinction between Catholicism and true Christianity is a key aspect to consider when exploring religious theology. Catholicism stopped being Christian when they added works to merit salvation. The Apostle Paul is very clear on this fact. As Catholicism became more dominant in the sixth and seventh centuries, it slowly centralized more power in Rome (Before the Great Schism of 1054 AD). Rome increasingly dominated other Churches and peoples, using state powers to enforce allegiance to the Pope and the Church in Rome. True Christianity, or Protestantism, as it is commonly referred to now, has always existed and suffered persecution from various groups, mainly under the increasing power of Rome. Still, their light continued to spread the truth of Jesus Christ in small pockets of Christians worldwide. In 1517, the Reformation opened the door to freedom for many Catholics, who [re-discovered] the truth of Christianity, which was hidden from them through the oppressive power of Rome and secular authorities acting in submission to Rome's authority. Catholicism's masquerade of Christianity, which is, in fact, pseudo-Christian, continues to this very day, with many confusing Catholicism with Christianity. It's sadly the greatest deception ever foisted upon the world. Stay strong in the Good News. We believe, without compromise, that the exclusivity of salvation is found not in manmade religious institutions of power and man but by God's grace alone, through faith alone, and in Jesus Christ alone. Blessings †

[@the_end_times]

Brother Arul there is a way to deal with things. Don't loose your testimony in front of the heathens. The devil is waiting for every opportunity to destroy us. So we should give ourselves to prayer, fasting and doing the will of God. Please walk away from trouble makers.

[@bennyjoseph4935]

What are the points on which you differ with Bob?

[@translinearlight6132]

Bob believes in Mary, saints and other catholic nonsense.

[@nadeem8989]

We need to see new video with Bob small balls Vs the great Arul 😊

[@costa328]

I learned many things from Jay in how to dismantle Islam ,I can't for the life of me how he can not see the lies and unbiblical teaching of the Orthodox Catholic institutions

[@eliasfarias2911]

Arul what is going on my brother? Seems to me from hearing you you criticism towards bob, as base less. Please present the true gospel let’s hear it from you !!

[@sleepwalker7755]

Why not actually watch this video all the way through?

[@pipbaxter5286]

Dear oh dear! Arul! Bob is the most influentual Christian speaker at SC. He is expert in debating, speeches and Q&A...not only in Christianity but in dealing with muslims. He makes points very clear, speaks well and keeps on point. He has perfected his way and it works. He has a world-wide following (if you ask Soco and Rev 22 for viewing totals..I think you'll find people gravitate to those where he's active more so than others). If there were only strong speakers from all Christian denominations at SC, you would hear a lot of antagonism between them on their differing interpretations of certain biblical texts. NOW..I believe that the Word came to earth, took on human form, preached for a few years and intentionaly died to take on our sins and rose again. I do not believe in Adam and Eve (it's nonsence) but a very good story for the ancients to explain the beginning of the world. Science has long proved the earth is billions of years old..any one who believes Adam and Eve is 2 sandwiches short of a picnic. BUT, I am very much a Christian based on my beliefs of Jesus' life. Arul..let petty interpretational differences lie. DON'T bring them to the Corner. Keep those for your study group. Bob is right ..keep sectarianism away from SC. The evil at SC is Islam not a fellow Christian, focus on that PLEEEZ.

[@twenty9tv385]

Do not put man on a Pedestal.. even Bob should be challenged and idolatry must be addressed or we could all suffer the same fate with Jesus saying depart from me I never knew you... becos while you prophesying in His name you praying to Mary, a statue even though the Word says there's one mediator, Jesus Christ

[@serenakaur1131]

Your biblical theology is seriously skewed...read the Bible again and ask the Holy Spirit for guidance,understanding and wisdom....Shalom

[@twenty9tv385]

@@serenakaur1131 does the Bible say there's more than one mediator? If so, please show verse

[@moses5161]

(1) Man of God - Who Is Bob The Builder? - Speakers Corner Hyde Park London 13-8-2023. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pX-2c4hvbMqim6c

[@moses5161]

(2) Man of God - Who Is Bob The Builder? - Speakers Corner Hyde Park London 13-8-2023. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHqWg6hmmc2ie7s

[@HebrewsvJohnv]

Amen

[@HoneyfromtheRock]

I am of the order of Royal Priesthood. Now, who has the audacity to say otherwise?

[@love101a3]

Sometimes, when people don’t listen, you have no other options because there is council in the Bible for these mothers so Isaiah 58:1 Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.

[@Angus1966]

It began in Europe when the Romans annihilated the Druids

[@truthdefenders-]

I have a suspicion that those criticizing Arul are only upset because they are tolerant of the pagan Roman Catholic cult and or the pagan Eastern Orthodox cult. Prove me wrong and be specific about what issues you have with what he has stated?

[@sleepwalker7755]

Herein lies truth.

[@dayamra9747]

Agreed. But it would have been good if Arul had put aside his anger and hadn't said that Bob has cowardice, ignorance, all of this was insulting and reduced the message Arul was trying to convey.

[@truthdefenders-]

@@dayamra9747 Only if you don't think the truth and facts should be stated. You can't sugar coat things, if he acted cowardly and demonstrated ignorance why is it wrong to say it?

[@dayamra9747]

@truthdefenders I don't think stating facts respectfully requires insults. Both men are capable of having an honest, open, and healthy discussion in a Godly manner. I don't consider that sugarcoating and I don't see how Arul's use of insults is necessary to his message which is thought provoking and grounded in scripture without them.

[@mattpistachio5497]

…you’re the pagan.!! Your own statements prove that you belong to a demonic cult and have a demonic mindset. From the very beginning of Christianity various sects/ cults have tried to destroy Catholicism…they have failed. This is not new at all….Catholicism will prevail whilst different confused denominations will come and disappear just like that. Read Church Fathers and educate yourself. You have a lot to learn. May Jesus touch you most profoundly.

[@LookOutForNumberOne]

If the genesis account is literal? Then, where do you get the FIRST 3 DAYS using the 24hr Earth cycle without the Sun?

[@OperationStephen]

@LookOutForNumberOne - A better question would be - if Genesis is literal how did something come forth just because God commanded it to come forth. I simply can't believe this is one of your best questions.

[@libbaT]

Do we not realise that the wheat and the chaff grow together? Eventually, the chaff has to be burned off. (Matt.3:12). Do we not remember that we warned about deviations from the 'simple gospel'? 3 I am afraid, however, that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may be led astray from your simple and pure devotion to Christ. 4 For if someone comes and proclaims a Jesus other than the One we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit than the One you received, or a different gospel than the one you accepted, you put up with it way too easily. 2. Cor. 11 Brother Arul is simply highlighting these things here. Not sure why people get so shocked when brothers WITHIN Christendom have doctrinal differences. It is the way of things and has been happening since the early church. We are to 'correct' each other in love, is the key.

[@OperationStephen]

@libbaT - I almost agree with you 100%. There is only one little part where I differ and that is in saying Roman Catholicism etc have established themselves over a long period of time that they should be legitimately considered as stand alone religion outside of Biblical Christianity - so I don't consider it to be legitimate Christianity which needs correction - but rather as illegitimate religion that needs to be dismantled. A temporary incorrect doctrine needs to be corrected 'in house' - but an extended incorrect doctrine needs to be treated as a different religion and engaged. Do you see what I am saying? But that you very much for making this point!

[@libbaT]

@OperationStephen I totally concur with that and maybe I should have made that clearer in my statement

[@truthdefenders-]

One point of advice, this entire vid could have been done in half the time. A good speaker should learn to be quick to the point for our time is precious. Keeping us here for an hour when it could have all been said in 20 minutes is not being responsible. 😉

[@zonwabelebangani6975]

My sentiments!

[@ProfYaffle]

Titus3:9-10 But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless. Warn a divisive person once, and then warn them a second time. After that, have nothing to do with them.

[@ProfYaffle]

See! We can quote Scripture too. Very sad about this whole thing

[@christdiedforoursins1467]

Im not sure if it's a foolish controversy,it's obviously not if these two men can not sort this out it says alot.Sadly this gentleman has valid points.Were not to agree with everyone we are to be in line with scripture , study to show yourself approved.If someone is not matching up to the scriptures teaching and teaching error the church needs to be the first to judge them. I'm trying to hear both sides but if one doesn't come to the party this gentleman will be heard ,Bob can make a defense.

[@mattpistachio5497]

I am afraid these guys attacking Bob ….have acquired the spirit of muslims. The open divisiveness they espouse is disturbing and is playing into the hands of muslims at speaker’s corner.

[@jesusforever4729]

Arul has made several attempts to get Bob to the table to discuss these matters. If Bob has been refusing to discuss these issues with fellow Christians, it's just his pride and arrogance.

[@mattpistachio5497]

@@jesusforever4729 ….am with you, but if you have listened to brother Arul in this podcast and if you had watched Johnno with his despicable behaviour a week ago, of how and what they say and act towards Bob …it’s loaded with some kind of entrenched personal vendetta. It’s puzzling and deeply disturbing…therefore l wouldn’t engage with them if l were Bob, until they demonstrate Christian solidarity of a kind that is not confrontational. Of course Bob has his flaws like anyone else, but he is a genuine Christian soldier.

[@jesusforever4729]

@@mattpistachio5497 The Bible and the early Church Fathers has been consistently clear; that you give answers when questions. The disciples were constantly answering questions from heretics, from opposition, from critics, from rebels and from officials who were after them. How difficult is it for Bob to sit down and have a one on one? There is a beautiful video featuring Alex O'Connor, a devout atheist, and Ben Shapiro a devout Jew, on @PremierRadio . When an atheist and a devout Jew can sit down and have a delightful conversation, why can't Bob have a sit down with Arul? Is it asking for too much? Or is pride and arrogance, enhancing the ego of Bob? Disputes between Christians are common; remedies are uncommon, and while often It's an easy fix, but ego and personal pride, arrogance play a big role in preventing Christians from sitting down and discussing differences. 👍♥️✝️🙏

[@mattpistachio5497]

@@jesusforever4729 …do you really think Bob doesn’t want to hear their story.!!? Then you’re not an observant someone. Time and place is very preciously important, when dealing with supposed members of Christian community, particularly if you are surrounded by opposing muslim vultures. Bob already knows the characters involved and has been patient enough to the point whereby they have now shown what type of supposed Christians they are. God has graciously bestowed wisdom unto Bob.

[@jesusforever4729]

@@mattpistachio5497 Yes. I know for a fact that Bob avoids discussion of his views of Christianity. Bob has an entire week to discuss these issues, but chooses not to. All it takes is a private zoom call or face time and this is a done deal. Why would Bob shun discussion, when pressed by other Christians? Like I said, take it offline, off the park, into the week. Ignoring and refusing to engage your critics is not helping Bob. 👍♥️✝️🙏

[@jamesowen1213]

Arul may Jesus give you ability to see your self as others might see you. Seek the imperfections in your self and support the lions not those who will try and destroy everything you believe in. Who knows what message the saviour has given Bob. You certainly don't have the wisdom to project Bob's Misson

[@mattpistachio5497]

Wise words James. Hope they read what you have written .

[@JimboJames-wu2df]

You know where Bob can be located, why don't you go and have a word with him one to one. Yes Bob is 100% correct ,you should not use your energy to attack other christians and where you don't agree it should be corrected in love. Bob never attacked you, a troll was following him and all he did is move from one place to the other just to demonstrate what was happening to him. You should have protected him from the troll. You seem to have bitterness towards Bob pls stop it and concentrate on educating your self on Christian knowledge. You seem to have taken a wrong direction on this

[@cressidadsouza2623]

Comment after Watching the entire video. Ur piece of advice can wait. Surely Arul has thought this through so hear him out completely. I'm sure you've heard Arul mention that his several attempts to confront Bob in- person have failed.

[@JimboJames-wu2df]

​@@cressidadsouza2623 Yes his opening line is attack on Bob and other Christians. He is pushing a certain sect. Bob has not attached him in person, he is only pointing out those who are out to course a division for their selfishness gain

[@discipleaj]

At least the comments aren't censored here unlike on SOCO. Bob had been addressed in private, multiple times. He and JC refuse to talk about this, but they're quite happy to throw others under the bus when it suits them. Therefore, this needs addressing. 'Bobism' is turning into a cult and if he will not heed the advice and warnings of true Christians, then this is the result. Stop and think about this for a minute. Bob is a sectarian by his own logic. Furthermore, he claims not to be RC. But JC is a RC and follows him around. The RC state plainly that there is no salvation outside of the RC system..which makes it sectarian by default. So why is JC, following around a man who claims not to be RC and by his own logic, is actually in professed opposition to the RC system... Someone is telling lies. People just need to take a step back and look at the wider picture and people are being swayed by philosophical speeches instead of the preaching of the Gospel. The whole set up stinks down at the clown show that is Speakers Corner.

[@unicorngav4768]

A lot of you, including Bob react to statements and attacks based solely on emotions. Why have you all abandoned the spirit of discernment. What is the Holy Spirit saying to you ???

[@raphaelfeneje486]

@JimboJames-wu2df Selfish gain?? You all Christians are emotional. Very terrible sets of Christians

[@sysnet1973]

I agree disccussing the disagreement with Bob in this plaform. Bob is ecumenical and Arul is a sectarian. History shows a never ending disagreement between Romans Caholic, Orthodox and Protestant. As a Roman Catholic, my opinion Bob is doing BIG TIME in the speaker corner for Christinianity. 🙏

[@alandure]

Arul, my brother, I cherish you in the love of Christ. No one embodies perfection. Are we flawless in our beliefs? Only God embodies perfection. In this light, each of us could be considered heretical in one aspect or another due to minor discrepancies. Let’s seek divine guidance. I recognize your disappointment that Bob is reluctant for a personal discussion. I urge you to mend your relationship with your brother in Christ.

[@ordinarylife2343]

Sectarianism and Denomination has nothing to do with Jesus. JESU said follow me and take up your cross.

[@thelimatheou]

Your hatred betrays you

[@jessegonzalez7873]

Good job Arul, we need more people like you exposing the false teachings of anyone no matter whom they are or how famous had they become. Bible is the supreme authority in terms of Christian doctrine not human traditions and false doctrine that don’t stand the Scripture light

[@mattpistachio5497]

What are those false teachings.!!?? And who compiled the supreme Bible for you.!!? Do you really know what you are saying.!!? You acting like muslims who hypocritically condemn the Bible and yet depend on it as the supreme source of validating their cult leader’s existence. What is actually your Christian doctrinal explanation and source.!!? Food for thought for you to ponder on..”did Christianity just appear from nowhere and if so , how .!?…and also did Christ just appear from nowhere and how.!!?…finally did God and Jesus not use and follow existing traditions of the time in order to fulfill their purpose, and if so what processes did THEY use and follow.!!? Please don’t forget their DIVINITY as you ponder upon this.

[@dollahmusa6705]

A Christian has sincerely repented of his sins and is striving, with the help of God’s Holy Spirit, to live by his Savior’s teachings. He is seeking to do God’s will in every aspect of his life as it is revealed in the Bible. And he is becoming a recipient of the happiness and blessings that come from being obedient to God!

[@adrianionescu7500]

In fact, Apostole Peter took the soard and cut the roman's ear... But what Jesus said? Put it back... Not throu it away! In my opinion this mean that you can use it when it will be proper... (maybe defending yourself and your family)...

[@sigmanocopyrightmusic8737]

No total misrepresentation of the verse. There is a brother called Thomas albin Holmes who exposes these false interpretations of scripture

[@adrianionescu7500]

John 18:11 says "So Jesus said to Peter, “Put your sword into the sheath. Shall I not drink the cup which My Father has given Me?”

[@MIKEDIAMONDZ]

Bob never gave me this feeling ...

[@Tubavision05]

We are all practising followers of christ.

[@dmelloa1]

Arul with all due respect to you, please don't divide the Christian community over trivial matters. There may be differences but unite in Christ. Jesus is heart broken to see his followers divided and that is what satan wants. Don't let the muslims take advantage of this, which I am sure they will. You and Johnno are causing more damage than good. May God Bless you.

[@sleepwalker7755]

So Bob is not dividing by calling Christians ‘sectarian’. Has the Roman Catholic Institution anathematised many Christians? Did they kill Christians for translating the Bible? Did they burn Bibles? What about the inquisition?

[@mexeditz1032]

Bob worships idols and runs away when confronted about that topic. He’s scared to debate because he knows he’ll lose because no one in the Bible ever idol worshipped. God actually condemns it because he is a jealous God.

[@vancestalworth5652]

Tell me one idol Bob worships!

[@polarfamily6222]

1 Timothy 5:19-20 These verses (among others) show that false teachers need to be called out and rebuked if they don't repent. I also pray that Atul and Bob resolve things well but if they can't then that which is wrong needs to be addressed. God gave us this responsibility.

[@mattpistachio5497]

So who do you think is wrong here.!!?

[@polarfamily6222]

​​@@mattpistachio5497can't you tell by my comment?

[@Jesusislord107]

The delusion of Bob who thinks people post videos to address his heresies in order to grow their channels 😅 seriously why not address the issues at hand instead? People's eternal destinities are at stake here but you dont believe in hell bob isnt it?

[@mattpistachio5497]

The word “delusion” could actually be thrown back at you too. Let’s hear your heresies also, about eternal destinies.!!?

[@name-vx1od]

​@@mattpistachio5497r u atheist?

[@mattpistachio5497]

@@name-vx1od …good question 🤓😁. I don’t know what l am.!! But what l know for certain …is that I LOVE JESUS and HE LOVES ME TOO. Am sure you get my drift.!! God bless.

[@kM-ij2ly]

Bob preaches a false gospel and encourages false gospels

[@mattpistachio5497]

@@kM-ij2ly …NO he doesn’t. It’s your ignorance that is false. Ask Jesus to help you understand and comprehend the deeper meanings of the Bible and of God. Don’t remain ignorant.

[@skarmat]

On the night he was betrayed our Lord and God Jesus gave thanks and gave the bread and wine to his Apostles and said it clearly that it is his flesh and blood and to do it in remembrance of him. In remembrance of our Lord we do it in every worship as a Church. This was followed from the first century onward. It is mentioned in Didache and also in the writings of Ignatius of Antioch and other early church fathers. The only time Jesus' disciples left him was when he proclaimed that his flesh was indeed true food and his blood was indeed true drink (John 6:35-62) because they could not accept that teaching. “And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, ‘This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me.’ In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, ‘This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you’” (Luke 22:1920). 51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world.” 52 The Jews quarreled among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us [his] flesh to eat?” 53 Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. 55 For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him. John 6: 51-56. 26 While they were eating, Jesus took bread, said the blessing, broke it, and giving it to his disciples said, “Take and eat; this is my body.” 27 Then he took a cup, gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you, 28 for this is my blood of the covenant, which will be shed on behalf of many for the forgiveness of sins. Matthew 26: 26-28 22 While they were eating, he took bread, said the blessing, broke it, and gave it to them, and said, “Take it; this is my body.” 23 Then he took a cup, gave thanks, and gave it to them, and they all drank from it. 24 He said to them, “This is my blood of the covenant, which will be shed for many. Mark 14:22-24 42 They were continually devoting themselves to the apostles’ teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. Acts 2:42 16 Is not the cup of blessing which we bless a sharing in the blood of Christ? Is not the bread which we break a sharing in the body of Christ? Since there is one bread, we who are many are one body; for we all partake of the one bread. 1 Corinthians 10:16-17 21 You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons. 22 Or do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? We are not stronger than He, are we? 1 Corinthians 10:21-22 26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the death of the Lord until he comes. 1 Corinthians 11:26. 27 Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty concerning the body and blood of the Lord. Let a person examine himself, then, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment on himself. That is why many of you are weak and ill, and some have died. 1 Corinthians 11:27-30 “Now concerning the Eucharist, give thanks this way. First, concerning the cup: We thank thee, our Father, for the holy vine of David Thy servant, which You madest known to us through Jesus Thy Servant; to Thee be the glory for ever.. And concerning the broken bread: We thank Thee, our Father, for the life and knowledge which You madest known to us through Jesus Thy Servant; to Thee be the glory for ever. Even as this broken bread was scattered over the hills, and was gathered together and became one, so let Thy Church be gathered together from the ends of the earth into Thy kingdom; for Thine is the glory and the power through Jesus Christ for ever. But let no one eat or drink of your Eucharist, unless they have been baptized into the name of the Lord; for concerning this also the Lord has said, ‘Give not that which is holy to the dogs,'” (Didache Chapter 9). “On the Lord’s own day gather together and break bread and give thanks, having first confessed your sins so that your sacrifice may be pure. But let no one who has a quarrel with a companion join you until they have been reconciled, so that your sacrifice may not be defiled. For this is the sacrifice concerning which the Lord said, ‘In every place and time offer me a pure sacrifice, for I am a great king, says the Lord, and my name is marvelous among the nations,’” (Didache, Chapter 14). “I have no taste for corruptible food nor for the pleasures of this life. I desire the bread of God, which is the flesh of Jesus Christ, who was of the seed of David; and for drink I desire his blood, which is love incorruptible” (Ignatius of Antioch, Letter to the Romans 7:3 [A.D. 110]). Not as common bread nor common drink do we receive these; but as we have been taught, the food which has been made into the Eucharist by the Eucharistic prayer set down by Him, and by the change of which our blood and flesh is nourished, is both the Flesh and Blood of that incarnated Jesus." St. Justin Martyr, "First Apology," c. 150 A.D. “I have no taste for corruptible food nor for the pleasures of this life. I desire the bread of God, which is the flesh of Jesus Christ, who was of the seed of David; and for drink I desire his blood, which is love incorruptible” (Letter to the Romans 7:3 [A.D. 110]). “Take note of those who hold heterodox opinions on the grace of Jesus Christ which has come to us, and see how contrary their opinions are to the mind of God. . . . They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, flesh which suffered for our sins and which that Father, in his goodness, raised up again. They who deny the gift of God are perishing in their disputes” (Letter to the Smyrnaeans 6:2-7:1 [A.D. 110]).

[@Thewatchman303]

It’s wonderful to hear you say YeHoVaH is the only true God.

[@dundadunda552]

Arul...this is not the way to do it!!. Dont turn this into a show. Have a one on one chat. This is not right.

[@antonypereira3853]

What are you saying holly catholic church?

[@fromjulian]

The word 'catholic' means 'universal'. We are being lazy by using it as a short-form of Roman Catholic. 'holy catholic church', in the 'Apostles Creed' that Arul was quoting, does not equal the Roman Catholic institution, but all those who are truly Christ's people.

[@sleepwalker7755]

Galatians 1:6-10 (NKJV) Only One Gospel 6 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, 7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. 10 For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ.

[@AM-mw2wu]

If Bob is reading the comments section and you Arul, can the both of you get together over a coffee somewhere private. And talk things through. Maybe invite your friends from Speakers Corner to join you and have a private discussion together. We're all brothers and sisters in Christ and of course we'll disagree like families do. But the rest of us who are your family, would like you guys to have a discussion in private over a coffee or beer, whatever works for you. And talk things through. Do this for us as your extended family. It's not nice to see brothers unhappy with each other. So for us, please get together and have a private discussion over a beer or coffee. United we stand, divided we fall.

[@mattpistachio5497]

From what l have observed…Bob should not meet them now. Their approach is arrogantly portrayed and therefore would be counterproductive in promoting unity of intended understanding. They need to humble themselves for it to happen. I see cockiness which should not exist in a Christian setting.

[@elizabethannsaigal3311]

This is uncalled for Arul - whatever you are accusing Bob of, is exactly what you are portraying here….Bob always says that there may be differences in opinions within our Christian denominations but, they are still the Body of Christ and he considers them so….I feel making videos against each other on KZbin/Public forum is absolutely disgusting and a new low, especially when both of you preach at Speaker’s Corner. Popes/Crusaders defended The Faith in history and that’s what Bob refers to, neither does he ask anyone to pray to Mary, Mother of Christ. So that is very untrue. Everything that Bob has preached thus far, on the Principles on Christianity is not erroneous in any way. I agree Bob should not have gone over to you calling you a sectarian when Johnno was verbally attacking/disrupting his conversation he was having at the time, with Amy screeching in the background, thereafter, all three of them moving from one group to another in the Park…Bob trying his best to avoid confrontation not because he was scared, but, because it was an issue on Christian behaviour in question ??….J & A’s behaviour was obnoxious & disgraced ALL Christians, to say the least. Challenging Bob in that low life manner was a sad day for Christianity at Speaker’s Corner and this spiteful nonsensical video you have made to get back at him, is a step too far…. Just stop - before you lose all credibility. You are a great speaker/apologist….Bob definitely needs to apologise to you for his uncalled for remarks and the rude interruption….continue to focus on Christ as the centre of your preaching for HE is the reason and Lord. Please rethink your actions. ✝️🙏🏻

[@christdiedforoursins1467]

Lets pray for Bob 🙏I do believe he is a Christian but is obviously from the Anglican church snd is growing in understanding,maybe not ready to be a teacher.

[@amissionforaj]

​@OperationStephen Amen brother Arul. The Apostles would not have stood for the majority of what happens at places at SC, let alone say that the RC system and its kin, are legitimately within the body of Christ. Whilst I do not doubt that there will be many in these systems that genuinely love our Lord Jesus, the fact of the matter is that we can have no partnership with the unfruitful works of darkness and that we should expose them, in order that those with eyes to see and ears to hear, know the truth and the truth shall set them free for the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ, *and none other.* I refuse to bow to 'traditions' that are outside of the inspired scriptures. The New & Everlasting Covenant is explained to us perfectly in God's inspired word. Any deviation from this must be scrutinised heavily, using the scriptures to filter out the sludge of man's sin and the advances of satan. The Lord Jesus did not compromise, He said to follow *Him.* The Apostles did not compromise on this approach after having recieved the Holy Spirit and so neither should we compromise. The Lord Jesus was absolute - He says that you are either with Him or against Him. And people need to have this right in their minds and not worry about the opinions of the crowd who have had the wool pulled over thsir eyes, via vain philosophies instead of having their eyes opened and minds renewed by the light of the Gospel, which is _the_ principle thing. Grace and peace from our Lord Jesus Christ be with you and your family my brother. Amen. ✝️🙏🏻

[@jankobenson4109]

Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend. Proverbs 27:17. THE GOOD LORD has HIS own ways of getting all that HE loves ready for CHRIST'S soon return. JESUS is coming a lot sooner than we all think. GOD Bless you all.

[@TonyGovindsamy]

Thanks Arul 🫡 Let him know because, Open rebuie will help his soul.

[@MrKent1018]

This is all Good and Well Arul. But You have Failed dismally to address the issue that Our Lord Jesus Christ, in Mark 9:38 - 41 and Luke 9:49 - 50 deals with. Giving No evidence that the one casting out demons in Jesus Christ's Name was there for all of His sermons, teachings, neither having any knowledge or reading of the apostle's letters you brought up. Neither was Jesus interested in whether he was jew or gentile. He did not worry about his person beliefs or background. But in his positive faith in the Messiah being Jesus Christ himself. You have Addressed Bob's points but have not addressed the above scripture that uses in his talk. What are you hiding??

[@OperationStephen]

@MrKent1018 - I suppose you heard that I had mentioned this is my first video of a few-part response? Perhaps you are trying to hide something?

[@MrKent1018]

Well, which video are you talking about?? Cause in this current video and the clips you put of Bob in this video I am commenting on... You have quoted many scriptures and put them on screen but not addressed the scriptures Bob has used in his defence and the scriptures I used in my comment. Please direct me to which video you are referring to. I have Nothing to hide.

[@urbandsouza7279]

OK arul ,is Mary sinner or not. Is Mary mother of jesus or mother of god ?

[@discipleaj]

Yes, Mary sinned. What evidence do you have from the Bible that she hadn't? She had other children also, so her perpetual virginity is another thing espoused by Roman Catholics that is wrong.

[@kM-ij2ly]

Mary is a sinner Only Jesus Christ wasn’t a sinner

[@jessegonzalez7873]

Only Jesús is sinless and he is the only way to the Father and saves us. Jesus is the only mediator he is the only ona that deserves all glory all of our praise and devotion nobody else is worthy

[@urbandsouza7279]

@jessegonzalez7873 then how you explain original sin

[@bennyjoseph4935]

I dont disappoint Arul. You can be very effective before non - christians.. So go on Arul. While you have an arrogant & rigid god Bob profess a generous & kind God. Debate between different sects of christians is a waste of time. It's not done through debate but with virtues...!Bob has done wisely by avoiding showdown with you.. So I have more praise for Bob than you. The one point I would make is by attending holy mass everyday you can have grace of God that saves you from the worldly dangers...

[@urbandsouza7279]

Everybody say he is in bible.bible belivers have more than 40 thousand groups within ,why ? Any answers?

[@lucydean-bb4xs]

You are nothing to him,,, he's so real

[@thomasphilipose2068]

Arul don’t be fighting each others now please defend common enemy Islam

[@merajsamarasinghe985]

Arul you have to keep aside your EGO and try to understand what BOB is saying......

[@thealbertvoices]

I lost respect for Arul

[@ayeeye5567]

When bob speaks about defining yourself based on what you are against, i'm pretty sure he is speaking on the differing opinions and understandings of scripture which in his view are not necessarily salvation issue.

[@kM-ij2ly]

Bob promotes churches which have different ways of salvation which is why ecumenical ideas fail

[@ayeeye5567]

@@kM-ij2ly i don't believe he does, i would like to see an example.

[@kM-ij2ly]

@@ayeeye5567 He promotes the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches. Both of which believe in faith and works for salvation ie to get to heaven the gospel. The Biblical churches which Bob claims he also represents believe in faith only for salvation. They cannot all be right and this is the very basics of Christianity what Christ did on the cross. This is why ecumenical ideas are not only unbiblical but illogical as well and Bob fails on both

[@ayeeye5567]

@@kM-ij2ly the Catholic and orthodox Church doesn’t teach that we earn our own salvation, faith alone, and without works will not bring salvation. Because scripture says to “work out your salvation with fear and trembling” and “faith without works is dead” and also “a man is justified by works and not by faith alone” I don't really see this as a salvation issue.

[@kM-ij2ly]

Yes they do look at their doctrines

[@anthonykenaley]

Study to be approved to god and not be shamed and rightly divide the word of god

[@costa328]

The book of Jude should be clear enough to warn that people from the beginning were spreading a false gospel.

[@patrickganess8557]

Mr arul just let u know Hatun and Bob was at speakers long time before you others exposing Islamic false teaching .Yoy got a problem with Bob my advice to you is to go Bob and reason together and sort the problem. Don't bring reproach to the WORD OF GOD by fussing with each other in public.

[@mattpistachio5497]

Brother Arul…are you jealous and envious of Bob’s success at Speaker’s corner.!!?? Don’t you realise that you are carrying the devil’s poisoned chalice and destroying all the hard work Christians have done in that place.

[@jesusforever4729]

Are you being serious? Arul is a hugely successful individual and not dependent on KZbin videos or handouts. Arul has made several attempts to get Bob to the table to discuss these matters. If Bob has been refusing to discuss these issues with fellow Christians, it's just his pride and arrogance on Bob's part. 👍♥️✝️🙏

[@mattpistachio5497]

@@jesusforever4729 …yes l know his status, but l have come to realise that he has some rather skewed understanding of scriptures by grandiosely imposing proclamations of them as if others are not able to or have not been able to comprehend or have not gone through similar processes of thought and perception. We all contend with these issues, but we should not try to destroy our partners in the Christian community, especially now that we have islam to contend with.

[@dayamra9747]

@jesusforever4729 What is with this hero worship of Bob? I don't understand it at all. Is it because he takes this conservative/Republican political stance?

[@jesusforever4729]

@@dayamra9747 Christians just feel bad that Christians disagree with one another. It's part of being a human being. And everyone has favourites, and Bob has his loyal fan base. 👍♥️✝️🙏

[@dayamra9747]

@jesusforever4729 I can understand that and appreciate your kind response. God bless.

[@drea7295]

Bob is ecumenical.he accepts all the heresies of all different scets and cults except the true faith.