Catholic vs. Protestant: Praying to Mary | Guest: Trent Horn | Ep 997

[@sivad1025]

Allie, I'm grateful for you having these discussions. I was Anti-Catholic a year ago and thought you owned George Farmer. But that debate got me interested in researching Catholicism. Fast forward, and just 5 weeks ago I was confirmed Catholic at the Easter Vigil.

[@jsharp9735]

Why ? They proof text 16 18 to give themselves false authority and then invented leavened doctrines over time after Rome appropriated Christianity.

[@botanicamelancholia]

Glory to God! I am on a similar journey to the Church of our Eucharistic Lord

[@kevinezema6159]

Trent seems to be following Farmers playbook in this discussion. He's chosen to pose questions and not quote bible verses to convince anyone. In hope the the questions lead to curiosity and the holy spirit taking over in conversion.

[@jsharp9735]

@@botanicamelancholia RCC re-sacrifices Christ every mass and in the end Jesus is still not enough because of the invented safety net of purgatory. Jesus sacrifice on the cross wasn't enough for RCC. God said do not drink physical blood, but they believe in the doctrine of transubstantiation that when you consume the bread and wine it LITTEARLY transmutates into blood and flesh. Then they all pray to Mary when Jesus told us WHO to pray to and its not his mom. They glorify her beyond what the Bible says and make graven images of her and invented entire doctrines around her......don't get fooled by their one true church narrative and proof texting matthew 16 18 to give themselves false authority.

[@sivad1025]

@jsharp9735 You should read Ignatius, Justin Martyr and Iraneous. You'll find that the "invented doctrines" from when "Rome appropriated Christianity" are actually incredibly early and predate any consolidation of the scriptures. Ignatius, for example, literally says: *Especially [will I do this] if the Lord make known to me that ye come togetherman by man in common through grace, individually, in one faith, and in Jesus Christ, who was of the seed of David according to the flesh, being both the Son of man and the Son of God, so that ye obey the bishop and the presbytery with an undivided mind, breaking one and the same bread, which is the medicine of immortality, and the antidote to prevent us from dying, but [which causes] that we should live for ever in Jesus Christ.* Or *It is becoming, therefore, that ye also should be obedient to your bishop, and contradict him in nothing; for it is a fearful thing to contradict any such person. For no one does [by such conduct] deceive him that is visible, but does [in reality] seek to mock Him that is invisible, who, however, cannot be mocked by any one.* Seriously, Ignatius tells the Christians to be unified with and obedient to the Bishop over and over and over again. The authority of the episcopacy is indisputable in the early (and oppressed) church

[@jenamaza3834]

Born as a Muslim, found Christ. Became Protestant Christian, till I noticed various disagreements within the Protestant Church. I knew something was wrong. But I knew one thing, that Christ must have left us a true Church, because the Bible often warns against false teachings. I just knew deep down that God will not leave us like lost sheep. After 2.5 years, I am convinced that the Catholic Church is the Church that Jesus left us. Last December I joined the Catholic Church and will remain in it until my last breath. Thank you God for everything.

[@elle9082]

Glad to know you have found Home! Praise be to God!

[@jenamaza3834]

@@elle9082 ❤️

[@DavidCraig-hd1rj]

Thank you for sharing brother. I really appreciate your testimony. It encouraged my heart. Keep the faith, grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I know Mother Mary and the Saints are praying for your edification, sanctification, and future glorification! Rejoice in our earthly and heavenly community.

[@jenamaza3834]

@@DavidCraig-hd1rj thank you.. God bless you and your Family❤️✝️

[@Athmoneus]

Welcome to Christ's Church, brother! May Jesus and Mary accompany you in your journey always.

[@juneryanruedas3047]

I'm currently a Protestant in the Philippines, but when I started to watch Trent Horn's videos, that kinda flipped a switch inside me and unfolded a lot of Catholic truths that i was blinded all along as a Protestant. Kudos to trent! And Im planning to be baptized in the Catholic church next month. PRAY FOR ME!

[@AtonioDamuni]

I will remember you in my prayers..the door is wide open to welcome you home.❤

[@Ms.S777]

❤❤❤ praying for you.

[@janethrosales7075]

Welcome home ❤️👏🏻 and keep speaking the truth even though there’s people who don’t accept it

[@jaesall3519]

As long as you seriously follow Jesus, you're good.

[@hebamarierosadohernandez752]

OH MY GOOOSHHHH! CONGRATULATIONS! GOD BLESS YOU! WELCOME BACK TO CHRIS'S CHURCH!

[@cadenza5253]

Great conversation! I’m a Catholic convert from Mormonism. I still enjoy these conversations between historical Christians that I listened to nonstop during my conversion. My deep dive into historical Christianity led me to accept the Trinitarian God and reject the Mormon teaching that there was a Great Apostasy, necessitating a Restoration. But I saw that Protestants also teach there was a Great Apostasy, necessitating a Reformation. That’s why they think new, pure churches had to be started in the 16th Century. I concluded that Jesus really gave the Church teaching authority and meant it when he said it wouldn’t fail.

[@basedsigmalifter9482]

I am too! Praise be to God.

[@charlescsav]

I'm on a similar path to y'all. Have not been baptized yet but I seek to be one day. Been attending mass as a non-Catholic for a little over a year now

[@cadenza5253]

@ Took me 2 1/2 years. It’s an exhilarating and beautiful discovery, isn’t it?

[@JoexShiesty]

Welcome home!

[@seanpeltier2967]

THIS is how debates and/or conversations of differences between Protestants & Catholics SHOULD be. Considerate, listening to understand. Well done both of you!

[@josemariavelozdelossantos1095]

I agree. They understood each other no for the knowledge that they had rather comprehended without accepting their argument

[@micheleh5269]

I respect much of his arguments. But when it comes to praying to Mary, he then moves to arguments like "dont you think it's OK to do such and such?" And that argument can go on all day long. Using your Noggin Over Scripture is what progressives in the United Methodists do! They even would say " there's a Lot of verses in the Bible we don't follow!! So why do we have to follow about lgbt.."

[@eloisepitts3242]

Careful, "Warning, Will Robinson!" Jesus warned His disciples [and all who believe in Him] to beware of the leaven of the Pharisees in Matthew's, Mark's, and Luke's account of the gospels. The disciples confused it with bread/food/provision, but Jesus was teaching them about something much more. Leaven in scripture is representative of something else. Read and meditate on the scriptures that do not lie. Ask Holy Spirit to reveal truth to you, and believe He will. Shalom Shalom

[@andriyan6152]

Nooo. Ellie memotong omongan terus dan terlihat terbatah batah ngomongnya bales dialognya

[@KatieAnne100]

As a Protestant, I will say that Catholics like Trent have really given me a better understanding of the faith & a respect that I did not have before. I grew up going to catholic school & have many catholic family members. However, what ends up happening at family events are those surface level debates that go no where instead of learning to understand & digging into church history. Appreciate it!

[@lo5182]

Continue on your journey. Trent and Catholic Answers are a great resource if you really want to know about the Church that Christ established. I also recommend Jimmy Akin and Tim Staples. They both are great teachers and converts to the Catholic Church.

[@adrianobattaglia4060]

​@@lo5182How do you know? How did you come to that conclusion? Do you have evidence?

[@joeterp5615]

⁠@@adrianobattaglia4060 The way people come to believe that the Catholic Church is the church that Christ founded is the same way that people come to believe in Christianity generally - meaning through many different paths. Some study for years and are convinced, some pray for an answer, some are convinced by the witness of others living out their faith, some go and sit before the Eucharist and experience the presence of God. In the end, it’s all God’s grace leading people, then they take the leap of faith and say yes to God.

[@michelleg7]

@@joeterp5615 Because it is where Jesus said that he hand the Keys to the Kingdom of Heaven to Peter the Apostle who died in Rome, as well as Apostle Paul. Its Matthew 16: 17

[@Nolongeraslave]

Knowing Church history is good and commendable but you can learn that from Protestants as well. Have you tried Truth Units channel of Gavin Ortlund?

[@alissarehmert2502]

I went to a coffee shop yesterday and heard two men discussing this episode, so I had to come see! I am a new Catholic convert from Protestantism. I couldn't help but smile as I overheard them discussing this topic. They were impressed with Trent and had their perspective changed on Catholic teaching. Great job, Trent. You are a treasure to our community.

[@cindybeltran992]

Trent didn’t really say a good biblical reason why pray through Mary 🤷‍♀️📿 am not sure if all Catholics are not listening right 😂

[@alissarehmert2502]

​Yeah, I wish they had more time to go into the details of why Mary is venerated and why people ask her, and other saints, to pray for them. He did, however, go briefly into why it doesn't have to be in the Bible for it to be a licit practice. It does not contradict scripture and our view of Mary and her role comes from deductions from scripture. I would recommend reading Jesus and the Jewish Roots of Mary by Brant Pitre if you're interested in a super in depth study of why Catholics believe in asking Mary for prayers. Regardless of your view of Mary, it is an interesting book to show you the practice doesn't come out of thin air. I'd also recommend watching the videos on Trent's channel where he goes into it. 😊 ​@@cindybeltran992

[@alissarehmert2502]

@@cindybeltran992 Yes, I wish that they had time to go into the details more. There are many reasons why Catholics venerate Mary. While it is true there is not an explicit command in the Bible to ask Mary (or any Saint, for that matter) to pray for us, there are ways that Catholics deduce the special role of Mary from scripture. Just as Trent briefly pointed out in this video, we are also not explicitly told we ought to pray to the Holy Spirit, but many Protestants and Catholics do (and rightly so because of deduction). The Catholic view of Mary is rooted in Sacred Tradition, Jewish views on the Queen Mother, and interpretation of different passages of scripture (usually you'll hear Catholics discuss John 2:1-11, John 19:25-27, and Revelation 12). As I stated above, these scriptures don't explicitly tell us to pray to Mary, but Catholics use them to deduce certain things about Mary & the Saints. I would encourage you to read Jesus and the Jewish Roots of Mary by Brant Pitre if you're interested in how the Church has historically viewed Mary and why. If you don't want to do that, Trent's channel is always helpful as is Joe Heschmeyer's (Shameless Popery). It did not come out of nowhere! Everything Catholics believe about Mary reveals something about Jesus and His divine nature. We don't venerate Mary because she's a deity or has any power of her own, but because of what she tells us about Christ, His holiness, His Majesty, and His love! It might also be helpful to know that there have been Catholics who were even excommunicated for taking their veneration of Mary too far (see Collyridianism)...so there is definitely a line for us Catholics. Mary is an infinitesimal creature when compared to the one Holy and Sovereign God of the Universe!

[@madisonmiller1789]

​@@cindybeltran992 Catholics don't believe everything must be proved from the Bible.

[@mitchellosmer1293]

---Ecclesiastes 9:5-6 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, and they have no more reward, for the memory of them is forgotten. Their love and their hate and their envy have already perished, and forever they have no more share in all that is done under the sun. ---Psalm 6:5 For in death there is no remembrance of you; in Sheol who will give you praise? ---Ecclesiastes 12:7 And the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God who gave it. ---Psalm 146:4 When his breath departs, he returns to the earth; on that very day his plans perish. ---Ecclesiastes 9:6 Their love and their hate and their envy have already perished, and forever they have no more share in all that is done under the sun. ---Genesis 3:19 By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread, till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; for you are dust, and to dust you shall return.” ----James 2:26 For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also faith apart from works is dead. ---Job 14:10-12 But a man dies and is laid low; man breathes his last, and where is he? As waters fail from a lake and a river wastes away and dries up, so a man lies down and rises not again; till the heavens are no more he will not awake or be roused out of his sleep. --****John 3:13 No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man. ---Hebrews 9:27 And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment. (Judgement on Judgement day) ---Acts 7:60 And falling to his knees he cried out with a loud voice, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them.” And when he had said this, he fell asleep (died). ---Revelation 20:4 Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. -----Job 14:12 So a man lies down and rises not again; till the heavens are no more he will not awake or be roused out of his sleep. ----Revelation 20:15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

[@RajNandan-y7g]

I was so impressed with your calmness and standing firm in scripture in your debate. God bless you Allie.

[@DaniellaStMartin-ds3om]

I have been a Music Director in many different protestant churches: United Methodist, Universalist Unitarian, Presbyterian, Epicopal. At each church I met wonderful people who love Jesus and I would do my best to understand how each faith was unique so I could do my part contributing to worship through music. When I started singing at a Catholic Church as a Cantor, my heart transformed in the most amazing way, and I am convicted that the Catholic Church is the true church and the most full expression of faith for followers of Jesus Christ. I know Jesus more deeply through the Rosary, Mother Mary, The Saints, Angels, and the understanding of the Eucharist as Jesus's Body. I realized that protestant churches are missing these important aspects that draw us close to Jesus and therefore most of them embrace new age spirituality as they are still hungry for our Lord. Since joining the Catholic Church, I have come to understand the Eucharist as the most important part of our faith and have renounced all forms of new age spirituality.

[@JoAnnFuir]

People convert to Catholicism because it is true. Weak Catholics become Protestants and strong Protestants become Catholics. My husband's a former Episcopal Priest. He converted to Catholicism 12 years ago. 😊

[@Martadmb]

This is wonderfull

[@eric.loves.to.fish1]

@@mitchellosmer1293 Don't confuse the forbidding of the drinking of the blood of animals with the command by Jesus to drink the blood of the Lamb (His Blood). Two different kinds of blood, in case you haven't already realize it.

[@mitchellosmer1293]

@@eric.loves.to.fish1-____quote--- Don't confuse the forbidding of the drinking of the blood of animals with the command by Jesus to drink the blood of the Lamb (His Blood). Two different kinds of blood, in case you haven't already realize it. symbolic!!! ----Why were the Israelites not allowed to eat blood? Why is the eating of blood prohibited? We can find the answer here in Leviticus 17 and verse 11, and the Bible says: The life of every living thing is in the blood, and that is why the LORD has commanded that all blood be poured out on the altar to take away the people's sins. Blood, which is life, takes away sins. >>>Why does the Bible say not to take blood? The Bible indicates that blood is sacred because it represents life. The command not to eat blood can be found in both the Old and New Testaments (Gen 9:4; Lev 17:10-11,14; ,Deut 12:23 , and Acts 15:20) -----Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition 14 “For the life of every creature is the blood of it;[a] therefore I have said to the people of Israel, You shall not eat the blood of any creature (a human IS A CREATURE!), for the life of every creature is its blood; whoever eats it shall be cut off. and Acts 15:20). (Humans are by definition both people and creatures- people, as they exhibit both sapience and sentience, and creatures, being of the kingdom animalia.) ----Genesis 9:4 Genesis 9:4 Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition 4 OnlDeuteronomy 12:23 Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition 23 Only be sure that you do not eat the blood; for the blood is the life, and you shall not eat the life with the flesh.y you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood. >>>>Leviticus 17:10-11 Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition Eating Blood Prohibited 10 “If any man of the house of Israel or of the strangers that sojourn among them eats any blood, I will set my face against that person who eats blood, and will cut him off from among his people. 11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood; and I have given it for you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood that makes atonement, by reason of the life. Deuteronomy 12:23 Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition 23 Only be sure that you do not eat the blood; for the blood is the life, and you shall not eat the life with the flesh .>>>Acts 15:20 Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition 20 but should write to them to abstain from the pollutions of idols and from unchastity and from what is strangled and from blood. >>>

[@eric.loves.to.fish1]

@@mitchellosmer1293 You are mis-reading my comments. The blood of animals is NOT the same as the Saviour's blood. You think they are the same. Think again. Prayers for you.

[@Deanne0830]

Wow! Seeing the majority of these comments are coming from Catholics (converts, reverts, cradle) has filled me with such hope! Beautiful. Always praying for the reunification of ALL Christians. Trent Horn is a gift for sure.

[@StringofPearls55]

Amen!!

[@georgefuentes4112]

Amen! I was having the same experience. Whether these Protestants know it or not, they are creating a path to return home to Rome as the anti-Catholic rhetoric darkened is brought to light and shown to be true! Hallelujah!

[@AG-kr1my]

I was thinking the same thing ❤

[@brdz6629]

Blind leading the blind people really need to open their Bible 😂

[@Pablo19625]

Respectfully, there’s only one way to become a Christian. Roman Catholicism is not Christianity. It has a lot of similarities but it teaches another gospel. As a former Roman Catholic, I’ve been watching carefully for some time now the mass conversion to Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholicism happening. If Revelation 17 n 18 are what many believe it teaches, then everything happening with many converting to RC n EO is what we have been expecting to happen, but it’s not a good thing according to Rev 17 n 18.

[@ahtshampervez-counselingps9471]

A Catholic from Pakistan. Thank you for having Trent on. Please have scot Hann on.

[@MaaFreddy]

Being a Catholic in Pakistan is not easy. I send you a lot of warm greetings!

[@siennamargeaux8413]

I include our Christian Pakistan brothers and sisters in my daily Rosary. May God protect you from persecution in your country.

[@jbchoc]

Hang in there, brother, you people are the pinnacle of our Church. Thank you for holding on.

[@TheDnaveo]

Yes! I could not stop thinking of Scott Hahn the entire debate! I also said this on Candace Owen’s KZbin video of Allie’s debate with George Farmer. Scott Hahn can explain with the Bible and historical context the origin of our belief in the intercession of Mary and the rest of the saints and many other doctrines.

[@SuatuKetika-z5f]

Be strong friend, Lord is with you

[@Jai_lady]

Protestant here... thank you Allie good chat, you asked some questions that I have had for a while, I love your delivery. I will not be converting but I have more understanding thank you.

[@LilKarchie]

I am a former protestant pastor who is now converting to Catholicism. I reached a point in my studies where I could no longer deny that the Catholic Church is the church that Christ founded through Peter and has continued for 2000 years. The more church history you study, the more your eyes will be opened.

[@sivad1025]

God bless you in your confirmation! Reminds me of Scott Hahn's point that lack of obedience began to feel like disobedience as he learned more and incorporated the Catholic traditions into his church Which denomination were you?

[@jessicabarker6721]

Amen!! Happens over and over again! Seek and you shall find!

[@James3-8]

Isn't Jesus the Rock, and has always been the Rock?

[@sofiabravo1994]

@@James3-8yes He is Jesus is the Rock, the Foundation of our faith He’s the High Priest the Head of the body not Peter.

[@FiatVoluntasTuaAmen]

@@James3-8 Yeh Jesus renamed Simon to be called Rock. So I guess what Jesus says goes, right?

[@motorTranz]

Then Mary said: “My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior!". Luke 1: 46-47

[@AA-gu4mw]

There is so much depth in those words!

[@themessenger2356]

What do these words mean?

[@HumanDignity10]

... "for he has regarded the low estate of his handmaiden. For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed; for he who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is his name." Luke 1:48-49.

[@adrianobattaglia4060]

She needed a Saviour like all humans do.

[@tomy8339]

​​@@adrianobattaglia4060How obvious is what you commented? It's as plain as the nose on your face. Yet Catholics that have a vested interest in their aberrant doctrine make up all kinds of convoluted meaning to that playing interpretation you just mentioned. And that plain, obvious interpretation is that Mary needed a saviour like anyone else.

[@Logan_Manhart]

I started seriously looking in to Catholicism a week ago. This weekend I prayed through the full rosary, took about an hour and a half as I’m still memorizing it. For the first time in my life I have felt a genuine burning for knowledge of the lord in the last few days. Looking forward to continuing this journey.

[@Reallycoolidea]

Amen!

[@CatholicHousewife2017]

Yay! Welcome to your journey! I remember the first time I ever prayed the Rosary when I was 20 yrs old - I recall apologizing to God at the beginning hoping I wasn't offending Him by asking His Mom for prayers and I recall that the meditation on the Mysteries of the Rosary took me to a whole other level of understanding of the reality of the events recorded in the Bible. It was amazing!

[@amoyjoyce1117]

Good! keep saying the rosary ! The rosary have no Salvation, it is religious spirits, when I experienced the holy spirit my eyes were open and I said, Lord all these years Mary! The rosary! why not you? Did I expect an answer? But I heard very clearly, he said , I see you practising patience and diligence, I burst out laughing , yes you are right lord! we are practicing patience , waiting patiently for answered that never came and diligently doing it over and over again. Memorising a rosary cannot get any one into heaven, it’s not to what you do it is what Jesus did on the cross, that is grace, Mary has no part in anyone’s Salvation, that is doctrine that comes from the teaching of the Catholic Church . I come from A catholic background, I still attend mass ,at the Catholic Church, but I attend especially to ask others , they like if I pray for them, I find them always receptive In receiving prayers . I would say, if you kneel down, close your eyes and pray with all heart your mind your soul and your strength believing you receive it , God will answer your prayers. He doesn’t answer prayers that is of repetition , if you want to know how to pray, read the palms, David poured out his heart to the God of Israel , how he felt and what was going on in his life. God already know all, but he wants us to come to him. I saw and I know the difference. I read the old Testament and I would spend hours in the morning talking to the Lord, what is the church teaching Lord ? what did the Catholic priest read to know you ? , I was angry! I knew about Jesus but I did not know him personally, I later realise he wants us to know him personally or I would end up in hell. He began to stir my heart and I did not know where I can go it worst yet who can I talk to , I did not know the Bible I did nkt know the Word of God , I thought maybe I should go to the Catholic Church and talk to some one , but I heard a very Stern voice , No Not There ! I thought? , so where then ? Foolishly I went all the way to the Vatican . Lots of people queueing … I realised no it’s not here. I stayed with a friend unknowingly she was Buddhist ! Goodness ! I returned to London not knowing where to go , later I realised we look for God In the garbage bins . Yoga, we join new age Buddhist. But none satisfy , only Jesus satisfy . Our longing. The Holy Spirit led me to Holy Trinity Brompton in London, and on Pentecost Sunday2002 he catapult into heat seeking missile. That is over 20 years ago and he has held my gaze ,I don’t concentrate on any thing for long, but with the Holy Spirit 24/7 he is my thought Word and deed , and I encourage others, so please read the Bible. The rosary would lead you to hell read the Bible! The rosary is NOT biblical and see for yourself. GOD would not accept anyone or share his glory with anyone, ir any idol , if you call Mary his mother, the relationship between Mary and Jesus changed , it was not about Mary but we can learn from Mary her obedience is beyond . . Why Did Jesus say in LUKE , 11:27-28 true blessedness 27 As he was speaking, a woman in the crowd called out, “God bless your mother-the womb from which you came, and the breasts that nursed you!” 28 Jesus replied, “But even more blessed are all who hear the word of God and put it into practice.” This is Salvation ! not the rosary. It is a religious spirit! when I was throwing my rosary away it tugged at my heartstring, I reached to pick it up and I heard leave it very stern ! Jesus said my sheep hear my voice and they listen . There is a battle for souls and Satan and his demons are going all out. The one true church are the believers in Christ, spiritual Israel , we are grafted in into the one Church. And it not religion but relationship. . The church is build by God’s own hand. When my faith is threaten , I know Jesus prays for me, just as he told Peter , Satan asked to sift you like sand but I have prayed for you. Can that which is small contain that which is Big ? God longs to give us his Holy Spirit to empower us, he knows without his Holy Spirit we are toast in Satan hands , he wants to be strong. Mary can’t give us the Holy Spirit , the Holy Spirit give us translation when we read the Bible then he gives us revelation then we got transformation. Into a new creation. In Christ call Born Again , he removes our sin as far as the east is from the west and remember them no more . This scripture cancels our purgatory , WARNING ! purgatory is adding to God’s Word that has serious consequences. The Catholic Church want to take away Eph , 2:8-9 for it by grace through faith we are saved, it is a gift from God , not works, ( indulgences ) not of our selves (we can’t earn salvation ) SO NO ONE CAN BOAST ! Written in stone ! 1tim 2:5 for there is only ONE GOD and ONE MEDIATOR between God and mankind the Man Christ Jesus , who gave himself as a ransom for all . And we don’t need a Pope , the priesthood was done away with when Jesus died on the cross , the Jewish priesthood came to an end AD70 when Jerusalem was destroyed . Jesus became our high priest . Hebrew 4:14:16 Jesus The Great High Priest! 14 Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has ascended into heaven,[a] Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess. 15 For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are-yet he did not sin. #16 Let us then approach God’s throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.# We don’t need to ask the dead to pray for the living , God gave us his Holy Spirit never to be alone. . All who are joining the Catholic Church are looking for religion , I did not have to leave the catholic church but I have freedom in Christ to go to any church and listen to the word of God , I hardly attend the Catholic Church , because I now know Jesus personally, I have a personal relationship with my Heavenly Father through the Holy Spirit in Jesus name. I know it’s the believers in Christ who are the church not religion. That is his Church he is building a people of power a people who are called by his name … Christian. Not all Christians are Christians . I’m speaking of spiritual Christians. God is Spirit and he is looking for people who will worship him in spirit and in truth. Not through religion ! One question if the Catholic Church is the true church why was people stragjez and killed for teaching the Bible to children . Today Catholics still don’t read and study God’s Word believe snd obey , they listen to doctrine believe and live but it . That has no salvation ….that is scary! Salvation is real experience . Hell is real there is no turning back your name is written in the book of life there is One heaven and it our father who art I heaven not hail Mary. Mary in the Bible is not the. One the catholic church teaches . Don’t take my word for it . Read the BIBLE FROM Genesis to revelation .its the Holy Spirit who will translation,if Gods Word then he give you revelation and you believe, he transforms you, into a new creation in Christ , called Born Again, now you know truth , and the truth sets you free , the Holy Spirit brings freedom and relationship with God in the name of Jesus , this make Christianity different from religion. Only Hod gives the jolt spirit no priest can declare you are born again without the evidence of the manifestation of the Holy Spirit . Whew!

[@amoyjoyce1117]

@@CatholicHousewife2017 you all Made the devil grin ! Sad you pray a rosary hie can you have a relationship with Jesus if you don’t know him personally ? Mary is not the way to the father .Only Jesus ! 1tim 2:5 There is only one God and one mediator between God and mankind the Christ Jesus who gave himself as a ransom for all.

[@CatholicHousewife2017]

@@amoyjoyce1117 the Rosary is a deep meditation of the 4 Gospels centered in the Life & Actions of Jesus Christ using words which come directly from the Gospel. No one can have a relationship with someone they don't know and it's impossible for someone praying the Rosary NOT to get to know Jesus on a much deeper level. Reading the Gospels is one thing - like jet skiing on the Ocean & Mediating on the Gospels using the Rosary is quit another - like scuba diving in the Ocean. If someone wants to truly KNOW Jesus, they ought to do both daily!!! I think Satan Loves it when he's succeeded in convincing people, like the way I was raised to believe, that the Rosary is evil. I double dog dare you to pray the Rosary for a week.

[@cate9396]

I am a new Catholic, having left the church 55 years ago when I was 18. What a relief to come home!

[@dearally4787]

I am Baptist and appreciate this conversation so much! I never want to frame other people’s beliefs in an unfair way. These conversations are very helpful in learning to talk to each other and ask good questions so we can understand one another’s beliefs.

[@DavidRodriguez-er4rq]

Yes, continue to learn. May St Polycarp and St. Ignatius help you gain a greater understanding of the fullness of the truth.

[@PatrickSteil]

Amen. Totally fine if someone wants to argue against Catholic teaching but most objectors to Catholicism are objecting to what their “tradition” has taught them about Catholicism rather than actual Catholic teaching.

[@aisthpaoitht]

Amen

[@Masterchip223001]

Please watch and follow videos of Keith Nester, Scoth Hahn and Stever Ray videos. They were catholic converts. They were protestant pastors, and born to protestant familiy respectively. Please also follow The Journey Home program where most of their guest were protestant pastors that convert to catholicism.

[@ezyultima2560]

​@PatrickSteil this right here!!

[@Pilgrimofhope7]

Catholic here, what a great conversation! Thank you for having Trent on and for entering into such respectful dialogue.

[@Ruth_1_16]

im sorry but he was not answering the Mary question.. Beating around the bush. I was hoping for an answer but not any catholic has a biblical answer.

[@Americanheld]

@@Ruth_1_16 Read the last verse of John. Everything is not in the Bible. That's why he left us the Church, founded by the apostles.

[@calebjushua9252]

​@@Americanheld 🧑‍⚖️ But all good works that make a person spiritually mature is in the Scriptures. Unfortunately, prayer to Mary and the use of rosary are not in the Scriptures.

[@DavidRodriguez-er4rq]

​@calebjushua9252 we are saved on grace 'alone' was made up by disobedient satanic conversationist Martin Luther. He hates St. James because of the works and trading of the church fathers.

[@StringofPearls55]

​@@Ruth_1_16 A great book is Jesus and the Jewish Roots of Mary by Brant Pitre. That'll answers many if not all your questions as to how Catholics view Mary. God bless.

[@bouseuxlatache4140]

this is the kind of conversations catholics and protestants need to have. full of charity and patience. All Glory to God!

[@togodbetheglory4942]

Please read you Bible don’t lose the way don’t be blinded. I believe sooner God will bring you out of this false church. Remember we don’t belong in a church we are putting our trust in God so please read the Bible for yourselves. God is the way the truth and the light. Please let the truth be revealed to you. If a church breaks even one of God rules or adds to the Bible it’s not God’s church remember what God said revelations “And I solemnly declare to everyone who hears the words of prophecy written in this book: If anyone adds anything to what is written here, God will add to that person the plagues described in this book.” Revelation 22:18 there are many things the Catholic Church assess to the Bible and also misinterprets the Bible and makes up its own things that were never Moncton to be followed in the Bible forgetting that the Bible is what we look at not the church. Here are a few things that the Catholic Church has changed 1. Praying to Saints and Mary • Catholic Practice: Catholics pray to saints and Mary, asking them to intercede with God on their behalf. Bible: in the Bible Christ is the only mediator between God and man (1 Timothy 2:5), praying to saints is never mentioned in the Bible that is idolatry 2. Veneration of Mary • Catholic Practice: holding Mary, the mother of Jesus, in very high regard, calling her the "Queen of Heaven" and emphasizing her perpetual virginity, immaculate conception, and assumption into heaven. In the Bible While Mary is honored in the Bible, critics claim that doctrines such as the Immaculate Conception (Mary being conceived without sin) and the Assumption (Mary being taken bodily into heaven) are not explicitly found in Scripture. It is blasphemous to say that Mary is the queen of heaven. On God rules the heaven so why would a someone created by God be on the same level as God. There is no place in the Bible no single place that says that Mary was taken to heaven and is queen of heaven this is a idolatry but not many people realize this.

[@kimberlychristianlcsw]

This was so good! Super proud of the bold and unwavering priority that Jesus is worthy of all praise, all our devotion, and all of our worship. Beautiful questions and respect, Allie Beth. You represented Christ fully and purely. 🙏🏻👏🏻

[@Nicole-uq2ul]

Yes, she is very confident, but couldn't quite answer the real questions when brought back to her. She tended to leave it as we have to agree to disagree. I'm thinking specifically about the authority structure of the church. She definitely loves the Lord. Looking forward to part 2.

[@MelissaGilmerSalamanca]

I’m a Catholic Convert from Church of Christ. I spent 29 years hating the Catholic Church, but people like Trent Horn really opened my eyes to the truth. I appreciate Allie’s willingness to have him on her show. These dialogues are important for the faith of all Christians.

[@AllforOne_OneforAll1689]

What truth convinced you?

[@markymark28]

You we’re already from the truth.

[@ashesandposies]

I never had a problem with catholic intill lately learning more about scripture. Praying to other saints is insanely idol worship, it’s like praying and worshiping Angels. Which all the angels reject immediately accept the fallen. The removal of one of the ten commandments and splitting another commandment in two just so the Catholic Church be justified to keep praying to saints and Mary. "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image"

[@Wolfie254]

So you left Christ to become a Catholic? What cause you to change?

[@Ruth_1_16]

im sorry but he was not answering the Mary question.. Beating around the bush. I was hoping for an answer but not any catholic has a biblical answer.

[@cyphonrider]

Two decades after leaving behind my Jehovah's Witness upbringing and becoming agnostic, I became a Catholic this Easter Vigil. Every day I'm filled with gratitude to God for discovering a spiritual home rooted in tradition, history, and deep theological teachings. As a newcomer to Catholicism, I've come to realize that some of these teachings can be misunderstood, and I appreciate forums like Allie's channel where Christians engage in respectful and thought-provoking debates. Trent's discussions have helped me grasp some of the finer points and nuances of my newfound faith. I like to say my RCIA class and fr. Mike Schmidt's Catechism in a year were instrumental in laying a solid foundation for my Catechization and I received much needed reinforcing of my understanding of Catholic doctrine through Trent's debates. I'm immensely grateful for the support and resources that have guided me on this journey. May God continue to bless us all as we deepen our understanding and commitment to our faith and understanding of each other.

[@observethecathedral6143]

I also was a JW about 20 years ago. I went through a militant atheist period immediately after. I'm now a Catholic as of Easter 5 years ago. I couldn't imagine being anything else. My home and my family rests with God's church.

[@Justamillenialworkinmomma]

Welcome!

[@cindybeltran992]

I thank God am a Protestant, he made no sense when it comes why they pray to Mary, when you can go directly to God: yes we ask a bother or sister to pray for us but we don’t think they are holy to even have statues of the people we asked them to pray for us or even repetitive rosary 📿 prayers. MAKES NO SENSE Also it is stated in the Bible not to communicate with the dead, of course we don’t talk to death relatives READ BELOW 1 Chronicles 10:13-14 ESV / 176 helpful votes So Saul died for his breach of faith. He broke faith with the Lord in that he did not keep the command of the Lord, and also consulted a medium, seeking guidance. He did not seek guidance from the Lord. Therefore the Lord put him to death and turned the kingdom over to David the son of Jesse. Ecclesiastes 9:5 ESV / 172 helpful votes For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, and they have no more reward, for the memory of them is forgotten.

[@fddooley1]

I am pleased you have the peace of Jesus after long searching

[@Anita..]

Lol idolatry

[@damegto]

So much respect for Allie for even having this debate/discussion

[@elizaladner1825]

I rarely watch non-Catholic videos. BUT WOW!!! 🤩 As a protestant having a discussion with a Catholic apologist, and asking the questions like a professional journalist- you’re responses were so respectful, polite, kind and were seeking the truth of what Catholics believe- I’m subscribing and won’t miss an episode!

[@nickynolfi833]

I'm catholic and i respect Allie for actually talking with an educated Catholic instead of just crushing a misrepresentation of Catholicism. Great talk between you guys

[@mitchellosmer1293]

---Ecclesiastes 9:5-6 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, and they have no more reward, for the memory of them is forgotten. Their love and their hate and their envy have already perished, and forever they have no more share in all that is done under the sun. ---Psalm 6:5 For in death there is no remembrance of you; in Sheol who will give you praise? ---Ecclesiastes 12:7 And the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God who gave it. ---Psalm 146:4 When his breath departs, he returns to the earth; on that very day his plans perish. ---Ecclesiastes 9:6 Their love and their hate and their envy have already perished, and forever they have no more share in all that is done under the sun. ---Genesis 3:19 By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread, till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; for you are dust, and to dust you shall return.” ----James 2:26 For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also faith apart from works is dead. ---Job 14:10-12 But a man dies and is laid low; man breathes his last, and where is he? As waters fail from a lake and a river wastes away and dries up, so a man lies down and rises not again; till the heavens are no more he will not awake or be roused out of his sleep. --****John 3:13 No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man. ---Hebrews 9:27 And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment. (Judgement on Judgement day) ---Acts 7:60 And falling to his knees he cried out with a loud voice, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them.” And when he had said this, he fell asleep (died). ---Revelation 20:4 Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. -----Job 14:12 So a man lies down and rises not again; till the heavens are no more he will not awake or be roused out of his sleep. ----Revelation 20:15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

[@mitchellosmer1293]

@@Ytvzoey WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD RESTED on the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD BLESSED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD SANCTIFIED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD NAMED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD DECLARED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK as HIS HOLY DAY to make that day special???

[@wilsontexas]

Catholics misrepresent their faith. It's clear that they treat Mary like a goddess but say that they dont.

[@AllforOne_OneforAll1689]

Actually I think most people accurately understand Roman Catholicism and reject for what it is... Heresy. Roman Catholicism has a false gospel.

[@nickynolfi833]

@@AllforOne_OneforAll1689 ok 🙄 what denomination are you? Catholics believe we are saved by a living relationship with Christ. Sounds real false....yeah ok

[@kelslo74]

I am impressed with these two, differences aside, very respectful - no interruptions, this is what a dialogue should be. Well done both of you 👏🏼

[@HalfInsaneJane]

Fresh Ex mormon here. Working on finding my place in Christianity thank you for this.

[@certainlyjoel]

God bless you

[@CottonWoodBlues]

Praying for you Jane. Shawn McCraney is a born again Mormon as he calls himself. Sandra Tanner and her husband were also big time Mormons. Also Lynn Wilder and her family. If you are indeed search..please look them up and listen to their stories. Thy were all Mormons..who now know the truth of the Bible.

[@AlanKurtz-I]

Great to see that you’re on the path of / to truth. Please read my reaction comment to this podcast.

[@johnbrowne2170]

You need to be born again. Stay away from the Roman Catholic Church. It is more of a cult than Mormonism.

[@triciamoon6312]

God bless you!

[@loufonz8679]

Allie was phenomenally resilient…. 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼! Bible knowledge is key!!

[@mzt7595]

Thank you Trent for getting me to feel so much more confident on my catholic faith. God our father is proud of your teachings

[@warrenbuyer]

Really? Even after he rejects scripture? Maybe you haven't read 1 Peter. Or 1 Timothy

[@clintonbobby8539]

​@@warrenbuyer reject the scripture how????

[@brendawanjiru2837]

Great conversation. I'm a Former prot going through the RCIA to be confirmed in August. Trent Horn, Scott Hann and Keith Nester resources have helped me alot on my journey.

[@pattysayssew3609]

Welcome home!

[@bluecomb5376]

Praise God!

[@AurelioCortez]

then you should certainly read "Evangelical Answers" by Eric Svendsen !!! it destroys Scott Hahn's arguments quite easily. educate yourself dude

[@vanessagarcia7515]

Welcome home!

[@grantv.broussard8595]

Keith Nester is awesome.

[@aguilacec]

Catholic here. Allie, I’ve been following you since I read your book “You are not enough and that’s ok.” I admire you having Trent and clarifying misconceptions about us. Thank you for being objective and a real seeker of truth.

[@christafarion9]

Come back home to Jesus.

[@glennrussell7765]

We’re miles apart on justification by faith alone in Christ alone through faith alone.

[@lo5182]

After hearing this debate, I thank God I'm Catholic. Long Live Christ the King!

[@adrianobattaglia4060]

Why? Are you better than other christians? Do you accept all religions, like the pope and the catholic church does? The eucomenical movement.

[@borneandayak6725]

Viva Cristo Rey 😊❤✝️

[@Nolongeraslave]

I think it is the talking point aimed to destract Protestants from their faith. It's almost always from comments from Catholics to boast about their Catholicism. This more like religious politics that has nothing to do with God.

[@John_Lete]

Ask Jesus to reveal His truth and He will and it will be shown that no man-made doctrine or religion is of God and surely God will also reveal that there is nothing to thank Him for in regard to being catholic. This is not a judgement for we all fall short of the glory of God, simply stating ask God to reveal Himself and He will reveal to the heart for the heart to know He is Jesus The Christ whom is The Saviour and all else of mankind is man-made and the culprit is the devil for he is the king of lies and the lies of the devil have infiltrated all religions to some extent. Call upon Jesus for His truth and His truth shall be given and being for His glory and His righteousness shall be set on all whom believe Him for His truth.

[@toejay]

​@@John_Lete I guess you have to keep asking then. God will lead you to the source of all grace: the sacraments. Protestants have two, but you need Christ's one true Church for the other five.

[@truthhurtsalways4u]

I was a homeless for several yrs.one day,I entered a Catholic Church.i prayed infront of statue of Mary ,crying and asking her intercession to help me find people ,who would lift me from life miseries.that prayer was granted by God,the next day.To make long story short,I now have a medical related degree and own several real estate properties. I always go back to that church to thank Jesus and His mother ,for blessings received!

[@y.f5965]

Glory to the almighty God.

[@9290SC]

Why pray in front of a statute made with human hands? God is calling you unto Himself. Mary does not hear your prayers. There's one mediator, Jesus Christ.

[@AllforOne_OneforAll1689]

But did you become spiritually rich by understanding the gospel of Jesus Christ?

[@mgm153]

@@9290SC You should consider praying to God about who and what He is.

[@Vickie167]

@@9290SC The statue is just a visual, it does nothing. Where in the bible say Mary (and the communion of saints) don't hear our prayers. We are all apart of the body of Christ while living on earth or in heaven.

[@littleway24601]

After a lifetime in the Protestant Church, my husband and I converted to Catholicism in 2017. Even though I studied Bible in college (graduated from Biola University), I still had so many questions and thought Protestantism had so many "plot holes". I suffered from so much anxiety and very much struggled with mortal sin. After converting to Catholicism, I finally feel like Christianity makes sense and I am healed of a lot of what plagued me. Ad majorem dei gloriam. Thank you Jesus.

[@mitchellosmer1293]

Christian--a FOLLOWERE of the TEACHINGS of Christ!!! Compare what the Catholics teach with what Christ taught. READ THE BIBLE!!!!

[@littleway24601]

@@mitchellosmer1293 yup, that’s what I did and found the truth in the Catholic Church

[@MrSan-ux8si]

That's why I would love to be catholic so that can do as I please and then confess and be forgiven and start over and over.

[@mitchellosmer1293]

@@littleway24601 Then answer these questions: WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD RESTED on the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD BLESSED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD SANCTIFIED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD NAMED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD DECLARED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK as HIS HOLY DAY to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD say Mary will go/or is in heaven? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD say a mere man is head of His church? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD says He changes to accomadate what man wants? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD say a Pope is head of His church? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD say Mary can hear our prayers? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD says Mary is an intercessor/medaitor? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD ssy mary can hear and reply to milions of prayers a day??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD say to use/pray to beads??? etc, etc. YOU ANSWER THE QUESTIONS!!!!

[@aconvert1694]

Welcome home!

[@JMBBrasil]

Allie is so smart and well spoken.

[@anopinion9830]

I was so anti Catholic, anti Catholic books, until one day, I decided to read Catholic books from Catholic sources and found out that Protestants do not understand actually what Catholics really believe, nor do they know the entire biblical bases for their beliefs, they’re missing books, and then I learned these two words ‘Latria’ and ‘Dulia’, I mean, really learned them, then searched for Catholic answers about their biblical bases for these words, I studied why the 10 commandments of the Catholic was different and who changed it, and then I started googling, who started the first Baptist church, who started the first non denominational, who started the first Protestant church, first Anglican, and learned about king Henry the 8th (killing multiple wives, jailing the head priest of England for life) and about Martin Luther 95 thesis, etc… There’s the Catholic explanation of scripture and of history, There’s the Protestant explanation of scripture and of history, There’s the secularist explanation of scripture(40k+ sects) and history… the one who gets the most hate by the entire world, the Catholics… I read about Masonic infiltration into all the world’s organizations, including the CC, and I read the CATECHISM, not to judge at this point, but to truly understand and a whole world opened up. I was so happy, as happy and joyful and filled with love as I did when I learned about JESUS and not just about an unknown, unnamed God I was talking to my entire life knowing one existed… I cried for accusing Catholics of idolatry, I cried so Many cast Mary aside, she prophesied she would be called blessed for all generations. I’m in catechism classes now. I will forever love Protestant enthusiasm and love for God, but now I’m learning the history of the martyrs, the continued unbroken line of Christian history, I’m learning what it meant to be Christian all these years.. who founded the Catholic Church? Not any man, but Jesus Christ. There will always be a battle between good and evil, and it takes place inside the church because the world is lost already. Please give it a chance, just study it, not from Protestant sources, from Catholic sources, understand it, completely, and then do your comparing, cannot understand catholicism by learning it second hand, that truth will always be hidden. Didn’t scripture say that the Saints would Rule with Christ? They’d judge the angels? Even the most outrageous things you’ve heard, let their official sources explain it. Learn about the Papal Bulls against joining freemasonry, the only religion that freemasonry wouldn’t allow join were Catholics forever until recently, if you don’t know about what they do at higher levels, behind closed doors, look up Albert Pike’s morals and dogma, and who they worship. Only the Catholic Church stood against it, and it against the Catholics. She is the mother church and I’m so blessed to be home. Please, Protestant, take the time to learn history, again, from another POV, read the church fathers’ writings.

[@rcwarrior868]

Amen, welcome home 🙏🏽

[@lucillebonds2196]

Sorry I was not finished with what I've written when I accidentally touch the send button. Now I can't find it. Sorry.

[@RobBaith]

Amen, love your comment!!

[@adaobichika8181]

Welcome Home

[@gliu0567]

So beautifully said!! Thank you!

[@GioLeoLopez]

As a former protestant Catholic convert, may God bless you, Allie, and thank you for having Trent on. Thank you for fighting for Christ and keeping dialogue open but pushing back where your conscience leads you in accordance with your understanding of Scripture. May we be united as One in Christ through the bond of the Holy Spirit

[@alexshatner3907]

If Christ Jesus and his apostles did indeed establish the Roman Catholic Church, then why is it that we look in vain, from Matthew through the Apocalypse or Revelation, for any mention whatsoever of the “Holy Father,” or a pope, a college of cardinals, archbishops, metropolitans, patriarchs, monsignors, right reverends, priests, abbots, monks and nuns? The Scriptural record does tell us of Christians being organized back there, but if the structure of the Catholic Church is in line with that of the early Christians, how is it that we find absolutely no mention of it, not even a hint regarding such an elaborate system? On the contrary, Jesus said: “Whoever wants to be first among you must be your slave”; and, “One is your teacher, whereas all you are brothers. Moreover, do not call anyone your father on earth, for One is your Father, the heavenly One.”-Matt. 20:27; 23:8, 9, NW. Further, if Christ established the Roman Catholic Church, why is it that we look in vain in the Holy Bible for such expressions most current among her, such as trinity, purgatory, mass, immortal soul, lent, novenas, indulgences, penances, holy water, veneration of Mary, the Immaculate Conception, the Assumption of Mary, etc.? On the other hand, we read much in the Bible regarding subjects seldom mentioned by the Catholic clergy, such as regards sin’s wages being death, the hope of a resurrection, a new heavens and a new earth, and, above all, the importance of Jehovah’s name.-See Romans 6:23; John 5:28, 29; Revelation 20:5, 6; 2 Peter 3:13; Psalm 83:18; John 17:4, 6; Acts 15:14. Christ did not mix in politics. He told Pilate that his kingdom was no part of the world or else his followers would have fought to prevent his being delivered up. And said the disciple James: “Adulteresses, do you not know that the friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever, therefore, wants to be a friend of the world is constituting himself an enemy of God.” But the Catholic Church has for fifteen hundred years mixed in politics; a classic example being the shrewd, cunning and crafty Cardinal Richelieu, his example being so notorious that Roman Catholic-minded Hollywood did not dare portray him as a cardinal for fear of the wrath of the Catholic Church. Could we imagine a Peter, a John, playing the role of a Cardinal Richelieu?-John 18:36; James 4:4, NW. Then again, ever since her inception at the time of Constantine, the Catholic Church has used force to spread her teachings. Especially notorious in this regard was Charlemagne, the first emperor to be crowned by the pope. Consider also the lives of millions lost in the futile crusades, the wanton massacring of entire cities by the crusaders, men, women and children, even as did Roman Catholic generals during the religious wars of Europe, and as was done in Paris on St. Bartholomew’s night, 1572. Consider also the diabolical tortures inflicted by the dreaded Inquisition, which are without parallel in human history. Catholic apologists, such as Gibbons in his Faith of Our Fathers, would excuse these acts by pointing to intolerance practiced by Protestant sects. But that does not prove that Christ established the Catholic Church, but merely that he also did not establish such Protestant sects! In February, 1954, the public press headlined, “Italian Police Chisel Name Off U.S.-Financed Church,” indicating that the Catholic Church still practices intolerance. Yes, for it was Roman Catholic police, in Roman Catholic Italy (more than 99 per cent Roman Catholic, according to the Catholic Almanac), who chiseled the name of a Protestant church off its walls at the orders of Roman Catholic officials, orders that were based on a concordat signed by the Vatican and Mussolini. Could we imagine Jesus or his apostles causing such a thing to be done? On the contrary, they showed that Christians used spiritual weapons, their sword is God’s Word, and that vengeance belongs to Jehovah and he would repay.-2 Cor. 10:4; Rom. 12:19.

[@Featherfinder]

@@alexshatner3907 Honestly, I used to be so disdainful about so many things in the Catholic Church but my own research led me to conclude that I was mistaken. I think it would probably help you (and save you time) if you were to get acquainted with some of the great Protestant scriptural scholars who set out to disprove Catholicism, only to discover that the Catholic Church has been teaching the truth for the last two millennia. Trent Horn is one of them, and then there are Scott Hahn, David Anders, Jimmy Akins, Marcus Grodi, and others. Cardinal Newman also converted from Anglicanism. He said, “To be deep in history is to cease to be Protestant.” I would also recommend a book by (non-Catholic) historian Rodney Stark titled Bearing False Witness: Debunking Centuries of Anti Catholic History. I thought it was utterly fascinating. At any rate, our Lord expressed that He wants His followers to be as one. It is so very important that we all try to understand each other and love one another and I’m grateful for discussions like this one. Thank you, and I pray that you and yours will be richly blessed.

[@Cathtradman]

Trent Horn had a big impact on why I converted to Catholicism 🏄🏻‍♀️🏄🏻‍♀️

[@GratiaPrima_]

Surfing the Tiber 😎 Welcome HOME!!

[@sammichaels3196]

​@@GratiaPrima_ Why do soooo many catholics say, "welcome home", as you have? Is the catholic church/religion a "home"?

[@oliver8160]

​​@@sammichaels3196 Because Protestantism broke away from the Catholic Church. Hence when a Protestant becomes Catholic, it is a return back to catholism. The prodigal son returning home.

[@Ana_Cecilia615]

​@sammichaels3196 Protestants were born out of Catholicism. So it is a big welcome home after you leave your parents. You can still be blessed and holy Christians even if you do not return to Catholic roots. I see Protestants as a different expression of the same faith in God to be honest.

[@HeyGloria]

same!

[@lisaloo715]

Ex-Catholic here. I was raised Catholic. We went to church every Sunday and I went to Catholic school for the first 5 years. As I started reading the Bible around age 21 I found many things that Bible was saying opposite to what I was taught in Catholicism. I love my Catholic friends and family, and I like Trent, but when I've watched his debates and videos it has only strengthened my faith in God's word over some Catholic teachings. Appreciate this respected interview.

[@valiantmint1060]

I strongly recommend you to study the catholic church especially the early days of the church and their writings and how it aligns with catholic teaching.

[@clarissathedyan]

Hello, I'm curious what you found in Catholic teachings that don't align with the Bible. I'm just starting to find out about Catholic teachings, I hope I can learn from your findings. Thankyou

[@mariaapplegate1870]

I am sorry your Catholic formation failed you. Please read the early fathers and look up Dr. Scott Hahn. I find it so difficult to believe you do not miss the Eucharist? .. the history, fullness and beauty of the Catholic faith. I pray you find your way back home🙏📿❤️.

[@FaithImani-xq9ek]

You should join the divine uk retreat online they are teaching what the Catholic Church teaches biblically

[@二コラス_カラス]

It seems like what you wanted to believe didn't line up with what the Bible tells you to believe. I'll pray for you to return to Christ.

[@livingstranger]

I’m a convert to Catholicism from Protestantism. The fullness, richness, and historical continuity of the Christian faith that Catholicism gives has me never returning to Protestantism.

[@mitchellosmer1293]

WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD RESTED on the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD BLESSED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD SANCTIFIED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD NAMED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD DECLARED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK as HIS HOLY DAY to make that day special???

[@jeromepopiel388]

Just wondering if, as a protestant, you were born again? As a Catholic I didn't know and wasn't taught that I could be saved (by being born from above). For Catholics it's all about receiving their sacraments. That's what they focus on rather than putting trust in Jesus.

[@CatholicNana]

@@jeromepopiel388Wrong. You misrepresent Catholic theology as most Protestants do. The Bible doesn’t tell us what being born again is, and Protestants disagree on that as they all hold up the Bible and say that is their authority!!!??? So the Holy Spirit is leading them to conflicting truths??? Watch this video as he goes through scripture to see what born again means. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKW7ZZh9qcuff80

[@micyjoejoe5820]

@@jeromepopiel388 Maybe you had bad catechesis, but Catholicism teaches that you are born again at your baptism. Receiving that sacrament is being born again. And we put our trust in Jesus and in His sacraments that He instituted to spiritually renew and enliven us.

[@dragonsandsuch]

@@mitchellosmer1293 Jesus rose on the FIRST DAY. His followers gathered on the FIRST DAY for the breaking of the Bread (reference to the Holy Eucharist).

[@kimberlybihl1606]

I’m a Protestant. I loved this great and friendly conversation. I learned some information and it answered some questions in a better articulated way than I could figure out on what and how to ask my Catholic friends. Way to go Allie! Love these topics! Keep them coming.

[@matthewodonnell6495]

I was raised protestant and was baptized presbyterian, went to a Baptist church when I was young, and then was at a non-denominational church for 17 years. I was never super anti Catholic since my dad grew up Catholic but the past five years, I grew more and more ant Catholic because of the reformed theology I listened too. My brother decided to convert last year, and we debated for about a year. After a year of debating and research I am now in OCIA on my way to become Catholic, Glory be to God, I'm so happy about it.

[@mitchellosmer1293]

FACTS: #1--Christ NEVER taught that Peter is a pope.-(where is the title Pope in the Bible?) #2--Christ NEVER taught that Mary will go to heaven. (Where does the bible say Mary will go/has gone to heaven?) #3--Christ NEVER taught that Mary is a mediator/intercessor. (Where does the bible say Mary is a mediator? #4--Christ NEVER taught that Mary never sinned. (Where in the bible does it state Mary never sinned?) #5--Christ NEVER taught that Mary remained virgin. (Where in the bible does it state Mary remained a virgin?) #6--Christ NEVER Taught that a mere man is head of His church. (Where is the Bible does it state a mere man is head of Christ's church?) #7--Christ NEVER taught about a church named Catholic. (Where in the Bible is a church named Catholic mentioned?) #8--Christ NEVER taught that we can pray to the dead.-(Where is the bible does it state we can pray to the dead?) #9--Christ NEVER taught that the dead can hear our prayers. (Where in the bible does it state the dead can hear our prayers #10--Christ NEVER taught that anyone can change the day of worship . (Where in the Bible does IT STATE GOD changed the day of worship to Sunday?) #11--Christ NEVER taught to confess to a "priest". (Where in the Bible does it state we are to confess our sins to a Priest?) #12--Christ NEVER Taught a priest can forgive your sins. (Where in the Bible does it state a priest can forgive our sins #13--Christ NEVER taught salvation is through a church..(Where is the bible does it state our salvation comes from a church #14--Christ NEVER taught to pray to, or with beads!!! (Where in the bile does it state we are to use/pray to beads?) #15--Christ NEVER started a church named Catholic!!! (Where in the Bible does it mention a church named Catholic?) #16--Christ never said to confess your sins to a priest John 14:6 New International Version - And yes, IT MUST be IN the Bible!! Jesus said: Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. ... No one comes to the Father except through me.." So, when a church teaches what contradicts what Jesus taught, which one is the truth??? If you say the church is right, that means Jesus is a liar!!! That erases ALL the 4 gospels!!! That leaves out ALL of Matt 16!! Along with that. you insist Jesus is God, then that implies God is liar. That erases ALL the Bible!! If you say Jesus is right, that means the church has lied!!! IT CAN NOT be both right!!! The bottom line is, the Messiah kept the Law perfectly, and we are to walk as he walked according to the Scriptures at 1 John 2:4-6. Those who do not follow Messiah’s footsteps are workers of lawlessness according to the Messiah himself. Kindly refute these FACTS with book, chapter and numbered verse FROM the Bible. Answer however many as you want!!! ONLY Book, chapter and number of the verse!!! No need to quote the verse or explain it!!!

[@matthewodonnell6495]

@@mitchellosmer1293 Those are great questions! Before I respond, you said it must be in the Bible. You believe in sola scriptura. That means you must prove from scripture that sola scriptura is true, but the Bible never actually teaches sola scriptura. It does however teach to; “So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the traditions that you were taught by us, either by our spoken word or by our letter.” ‭‭2 Thessalonians‬ ‭2‬:‭15‬. This says to stand firm to tradition whether it’s written or oral. ~#1 The idea that Peter is Pope is in Matthew 16:17-19. The specific word pope is never used, just like the word trinity is never used in scripture but we can get the idea in scripture. in Matthew 16 Peter is given the power to bind and loose, the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and his name is changed and he is made the rock. We also see Peter’s special role in (Acts 15:6-11), (John 21:17). Peter headed the meeting that elected Matthias to replace Judas in (Acts 1:13-26) Peter inflicted the first punishment in (Acts 5:1-11) and he excommunicated the first heritic in (Acts 8:18-23). The Pope is the head bishop of the church. ~#2 Would you assume Mary is saved? If Mary is saved then she is in heaven. Revelation 12:1-6 speaks of a woman who birthed the messiah. Most biblical scholars see this woman representing Mary, Israel, and the church. Since Mary is saved then we know God is the God of the living not the dead (Matthew 22:23) so she is alive, (Hebrews 11 and 12) show us that we are surrounded by the great cloud of witnesses in heaven. ~#3 (1 Timothy 2:5-6 says Jesus is our mediator in the fact that he gave Himself as a ransom for us. Only Jesus is our mediator in the sense that He paid our infinite debt. The role of Mary as “Mediatrix” recognizes God chose Mary to do a huge task. That is her role in the incarnation and redemption of humanity. Mary said yes to the angel Gabriel in (Luke 1:38). Mary consented to being the vessel that carried the infinite God and she raised him from infancy. (1 Timothy 2:1)urges that intercession be made for all people and (James 5:16) says the prayers of the righteous are powerful. If Mary is sinless and righteous in heaven with the other saints, and she is part of the one Body of Christ, then we see it biblically fitting that she can intercede for us and pray for us just like you could pray for me. ~#4 In Luke 1:29 the archangel Gabriel greets Mary by saying “Hail, full of grace.” In Greek this greeting is “Kaire, Kekaritomene”. Generally when someone greeted another with “Kaire” a name or title would be given afterwards. “Hail, King of the Jews” is an example of this in John 19:3. In Hebrew culture names and name changes tell us something permanent about the character of that person. Like “Abram” to “Abraham”(“father” to “father of the multitudes”) or “Saray” to “Sarah” (“my princess” to “princess”). When Gabriel says “Kekaritomene” as his “name” for Mary, this word literally means “she who has been graced” in a complete sense. This adjective “graced” is not just describing a past action, but rather this is used in the perfect tense which indicates that an action has been completed in the past, resulting in a present state of being. The average Christian is not completed in grace and in a permanent sense(Philippians 3:8-12) but according to the angel Mary is. We sin not because of grace but because of a lack of grace, or a lack of cooperation with grace in our lives. ~#5 We believe Mary remained virgin for a few reasons. The words used to describe Jesus brothers can also be used to describe cousins, kin, or relative and in fact, this same word for brother is used with Lot and Abram but they were not brothers. In (John 19:25) there is a “sister” of Mary who is also named Mary but it would be odd to have two literal sisters named Mary indicating it was rather Mary’s relative. (Matthew 27:56) indicates that Jesus brothers, James and Joseph were actually sons of a different Mary. Even Protestants like Martin Luther and John Calvin, and Wesley believed in Mary’s perpetual virginity from scripture. ~#6 Jesus is the head of the church. But in Matthew 16:17-19 he gives Peter the keys of heaven, power to bind a loose, and build his church in this rock(Peter). The pope is the visible representative(head), while Jesus is the invisible head who is authority over all. ~#7 The Bible never explicitly uses the word “Catholic” but the early church used the word Catholic all the time to describe Christs church. The word Catholic just means universal. St. Ignatius of Antioch is one of the earliest church Fathers who was martyred in the colosseum, and believed to be under the teaching of the apostle John. St Ignatius came from Antioch, the place where believers were first called Christian’s in (Acts 11:26). Writing in 110 A.D. St, Ignatius says, “Wherever the bishop appears, there let the people be; as wherever Jesus Christ is, is the Catholic Church.” The apostles creed which was written in the 2nd century, which most Protestants even recite says, “I believe in the Holy Spirit, The Holy CATHOLIC church”. So we know early Christian’s called the church Catholic. ~#8 You say “Christ never taught we can pray to the dead”. Well your right, and the saints in heaven are not dead. In (Matthew 22:32) Jesus says, ‘I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? He is not God of the dead, but of the living.” Also at the transfiguration Jesus spoke to Moses and Elijah. We believe they are part of the Body of Christ and we can ask them to pray for us, just like we ask brothers and sisters on Earth to pray for us. ~#9 Once again, the saints are not dead but alive in Heaven. In (Revelation 5:8) we see the 24 elders offering incense to God, and we are told this incense is the “prayers of the saints”. We do know the saints have awareness of what happens on Earth. Hebrews 12:1 describes the “since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses” after Hebrews 11 talk about the heroes of the Old Testament. In (Revelation 6:9-11) we see the martyrs in heaven asking God when He will avenge their blood on those living in Earth, so we know these saints are aware of Earth and asking God to do something to people on Earth. (Revelation 7:13) shows that one of the elders in heaven is aware of the tribulation on Earth. ~#10 We worship on Sunday because Jesus Christ our Lord rose from the dead on Sunday. (Colossians 2:16-17) says; Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in regard to food or drink or in respect to festival, or a new moon or a Sabbath day-things which are a mere shadow of what is to come, but the substance belongs to Christ. Jesus is the fulfillment of the Sabbath. ~#11 In (John 20:21-23) Jesus gave the apostles the authority to forgive sin. Jesus also said “Just as the Father sent me, even so I send you.” Jesus gives His authority to forgive sins to the apostles and sends them, just as the Father sent Him. You would have to prove from scripture that this authority to forgive sins ends with the apostles. The Bible does indicate that the apostles appointed new men, who laid hands on new men, and we believe this is apostolic succession. ~#12 Concerning priests forgiving sins Paragraph 1441 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church states: Only God forgives sins. Since he is the Son of God, Jesus says of himself, "The Son of man has authority on earth to forgive sins" and exercises this divine power: "Your sins are forgiven." Further, by virtue of his divine authority he gives this power to men to exercise in his name. We see this is (John 20:21-23). ~#13 The Catholic Church teaches that Christ can save anyone, even non Catholics. Protestants can be saved by having an imperfect union with the Church, through baptism, faith, and repentance. Christ has bound us to the sacraments for salvation under ordinary means but God is not bound by the sacraments. This means under ordinary means baptism saves( Mark 16:16),(John 3:5), (1 Peter 3:21),( Acts 2:38),(Matthew 28:29), and under ordinary means we must eat Christs body and blood(Eucharist) (John 6:54),( John 6:56). The church is where we can find the fullness of the Christian faith, and where we find Gods grace through the sacraments He established. In (Luke 10:16) after Jesus sends out the 72 He states, “The one who hears you hears me, and the one who rejects you rejects me, and the one who rejects me rejects him who sent me.” The church is Christs church, we should be part of the church He established. ~#14 Prayer beads are a practice that help us count our prayers and focus on our place in prayer so we don’t loose our place. ~#15 Christ started a church. (1 Timothy 3:15) describes the church as a pillar and foundation of truth. Jesus said the gates of hell would not prevail against His church( Matthew 16:18). (2 Thessalonians 2:15-17) tells us to hold firm to tradition whether by word of mouth or by letter. The church has teaching authority. The church has the authority to forgive sins(John 20:21-23). If you read the early church fathers they all sound very Catholic in their theology and practices. This would indicate that the Catholic Church is closet to the early church. All other churches throughout history split from the Catholic Church. ~#16 Jesus gave the apostles the authority to forgive sins in (John 20:23) and whenever the Bible says to “confess sins” this does not refute confession to a priest because those verses never specify that we should only confess to God in private prayer. We do see confessing sins to others in the Bible; - Christians confessing their beliefs to other people (Matthew 10:32), (Luke 12:8), (John 9:22), (Acts 24:14) (Romans 10:9-10) (1 Timothy 6:12) (Titus 1:16) (1 John 2:23 4:2, 4:15)

[@matthewodonnell6495]

@@mitchellosmer1293 Also I’m new to this so if you want more in depth answers I’d look up Catholics answers and type your questions. Finding answers from Catholics themselves is best, many Protestant sources misrepresent the Catholic Church. That’s my experience as an ex-Protestant now converting. God bless my friend.

[@mitchellosmer1293]

@@matthewodonnell6495 Wow!!! Such BS!!! Out of Context verses!!! Quote #1--So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the traditions that you were taught by us, either by our spoken word or by our letter.” ‭‭2 Thessalonians‬ ‭2‬:‭15‬. This says to stand firm to tradition whether it’s written or oral....unquote ONLY TWO OPTIONS!!! Word of mouth--SPOKEN!!! (Which had to have been written) By Letter--Written!! NO OTHER OPTIONS!!! >>>>You said, “Nowhere does it say scripture alone.” - Oh but it does… Isaiah 40:8 8 The grass withers and the flowers fade, but the word of our God stands forever.” Matthew 24:35 (Jesus states) 35 “Heaven and earth will disappear, but my words will never disappear.” Hebrews 6:18 18 “So God has given both his promise and his oath. These two things are unchangeable because it is impossible for God to lie. Therefore, we who have fled to him for refuge can have great confidence as we hold to the hope that lies before us.” People break their promises, their word, their oaths often. But the Lord never has and never will. His Word is priceless, profound and trustworthy. Everything else will fade and disappear… but His Word will last f-o-r-e-v-e-r. His Word is what sustains us (Jeremiah 15:16) >>>>Quote-----in Matthew 16 Peter is given the power to bind and loose, Catholic Encyclopedia: The Pope: "The expressions binding and loosing here employed are derived from the current terminology of the Rabbinic schools. A doctor who declared a thing to be prohibited by the law was said to bind, for thereby he imposed an obligation on the conscience. He who declared it to be lawful was said to loose." >>>quote---the keys of the kingdom of heaven, Jesus gave Peter “the keys of the kingdom of heaven,” not the keys to heaven.1 A key was a badge of authority ( Luke 11:52 ), and then as now was used to open doors. Peter used the keys Christ gave him to open the door to the Jews on the Day of Pentecost ( Acts 2 ), to the Samaritans after the preaching of Philip ( Acts 8:14-17 ), and to the Gentiles after the Lord had sent him a vision and an appeal from Cornelius ( Acts 10 ). >>>>#1 The idea that Peter is Pope is in Matthew 16:17-19. Jesus did not appoint Peter to the headship of the apostles and forbade any such notion (Matthew 20:20-28; Luke 22:24-26; Ephesians 1:22-23; Colossians 1:18; 1 Corinthians 3:11). The only Church Jesus has is the born again Church He died to save. God’s Word tells us that Christ is the only HEAD of His one body! This alone means that the pope of Rome is the head of a false church. God has One Church with One Head - Jesus Christ, the nail-scarred risen LORD and only Savior (Ephesians 1:22; 4:15; 5:23; Colossians 1:18; 2:10, 19). >>>quote----and he excommunicated the first heritic in (Acts 8:18-23)..unquote Acts 8:18-23 Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition 18 Now when Simon saw that the Spirit was given through the laying on of the apostles’ hands, he offered them money, 19 saying, “Give me also this power, that any one on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit.” 20 But Peter said to him, “Your silver perish with you, because you thought you could obtain the gift of God with money![a] 21 You have neither part nor lot in this matter, for your heart is not right before God. 22 Repent therefore of this wickedness of yours, and pray to the Lord that, if possible, the intent of your heart may be forgiven you. 23 For I see that you are in the gall of bitterness and in the bond of iniquity.” ------NOWHERE in thoses verses does Peter excommunicate the man!!! One can not be "excommunicated" if they ARE NOT a member!!! ---->>Quote----#2 Would you assume Mary is saved? If Mary is saved then she is in heaven....unquote Theh Jesus is a liar!!!!! John 3:13 "No one has gone up to heaven except the one who came down from heaven, the Son of Man who is in heaven. ----“Moreover, brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant about those who are sleeping in death, so that you may not sorrow as the rest do who have no hope. For if we have faith that Jesus died and rose again, so too God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep in death through Jesus. For this is what we tell you by Jehovah’s word, that we the living who survive to the presence of the Lord will in no way precede those who have fallen asleep in death; because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first. Afterward we the living who are surviving will, together with them, be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and thus we will always be with the Lord. So keep comforting one another with these words.” 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 ------“Look! I tell you a sacred secret: We will not all fall asleep in death, but we will all be changed, in a moment, in the blink of an eye, during the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised up incorruptible, and we will be changed.” 1 Corinthians 15:51, 52 -----“Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.” John 5:28, 29 KJV >>>>“Martha said to him: “I know he will rise in the resurrection on the last day.” John 11:24 and a LOT MORE!!! >>>Quote----- then we see it biblically fitting that she can intercede for us and pray for us just like you could pray for me....unquote Then again, 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; IS THAT A LIE TO????? Mary DID NOT shed blood for mankind!! Mary did NOT die for mankind!!! Mary IS DEAD and in the grave!!! --Ecclesiastes 9:5-6 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, and they have no more reward, for the memory of them is forgotten. Their love and their hate and their envy have already perished, and forever they have no more share in all that is done under the sun. ---Psalm 6:5 For in death there is no remembrance of you; in Sheol who will give you praise? ---Psalm 146:4 When his breath departs, he returns to the earth; on that very day his plans perish. ---- Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it. ---Ecclesiastes 9:6 Their love and their hate and their envy have already perished, and forever they have no more share in all that is done under the sun. ---Genesis 3:19 By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread, till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; for you are dust, and to dust you shall return.” ----James 2:26 For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also faith apart from works is dead. ---Job 14:10-12 But a man dies and is laid low; man breathes his last, and where is he? As waters fail from a lake and a river wastes away and dries up, so a man lies down and rises not again; till the heavens are no more he will not awake or be roused out of his sleep. --****John 3:13 No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man. ---Hebrews 9:27 And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment. (Judgement on Judgement day) ---Acts 7:60 And falling to his knees he cried out with a loud voice, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them.” And when he had said this, he fell asleep (died ---Revelation 20:4 Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. -----Job 14:12 So a man lies down and rises not again; till the heavens are no more he will not awake or be roused out of his sleep. According to Catholics, God and the Gospels are liars !!!! >>>Quote---#4 In Luke 1:29 the archangel Gabriel greets Mary by saying “Hail, full of grace". Yes--"Greeting Mary, one that is compassionate and thoughful." page 2 next >

[@mitchellosmer1293]

@@matthewodonnell6495 page 2 >>Quote---#5 We believe Mary remained virgin for a few reasons. etc.--unquote ------>>>>> 1 Corinthians 7:5 Do not deprive each other of sexual relations, unless you both agree to refrain from sexual intimacy for a limited time so you can give yourselves more completely to prayer. Afterward, you should come together again so that Satan won’t be able to tempt you because of your lack of self-control. ----And: Mitzvot law----#192 ALL Jewish wives MUST bear children for the husband. A law given to ALL (Israelites) Jews at Mt Sanai!!! Had she NOT had children for Joseph, IT WOULD have been a sin!!! Makes her a sinner!!!! For disobeying GOD!!!! What is the purpose of marriage? To precreate!!! United as one!! Can NOT be united as one without sex!!! Did Joseph and Mary sleep together? The following verse, though, makes it clear Joseph did not sleep with Mary until after the birth of Jesus. She remained a virgin, fulfilling the prophecy of Isaiah (Isaiah 7:14). After that time, Joseph and Mary would have other children together (Matthew 13:55-57; Mark 3:31-32). How many siblings did Jesus have? four brothers According to Mark 6:3 Jesus had four brothers (and two sisters): "Is he not the carpenter, the son of Mary, and the brother of James and Joses and Judas and Simon? >>>Quote---~#6 Jesus is the head of the church. But in Matthew 16:17-19 he gives Peter the keys of heaven, power to bind a loose, and build his church in this rock(Peter). The pope is the visible representative(head), while Jesus is the invisible head who is authority over all. ...unquote Who is head of the church ACCORDING to the Bible? Jesus Scripture says that God gave Jesus “as head over all things to the church, which is his body” (Ephesians 1:22-23). Jesus is head of the Church because of his primary role in our creation and our redemption. Jesus founded the Church. Who is the true head of the church according to the Bible? Christ Christ is Lord of all. He is the one true head of the church (Ephesians 1:22; 5:23; Colossians 1:18). He is also King of kings-sovereign over every earthly authority (1 Timothy 6:15; Revelation 17:14; 19:16). Who is the leader of the church in the Bible? Jesus, Head of the Church | Loyola Press Jesus Scripture says that God gave Jesus “as head over all things to the church, which is his body” (Ephesians 1:22-23). Jesus is head of the Church because of his primary role in our creation and our redemption. Jesus founded the Church. He brought forth the Church and gave it life through his death and resurrection. >>>Quote---#7 The Bible never explicitly uses the word “Catholic” but the early church used the word Catholic all the time to describe Christs church. The word Catholic just means universal. St. Ignatius of Antioch is one of the earliest church Fathers who was martyred in the colosseum, and believed to be under the teaching of the apostle John. --unquote You ARE right.. NO BIBLE, even Catholic bibles, use the word "Catholic"!!!! >>>Acts 9:31 Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition 31 So the church throughout all Judea and Galilee and Samar′ia had peace and was built up; and walking in the fear of the Lord and in the comfort of the Holy Spirit it was multiplied. --CATHOLIC NOT USED!!! >>>Acts 9:31 New Revised Standard Version, Anglicised Catholic Edition 31 Meanwhile the church throughout Judea, Galilee, and Samaria had peace and was built up. Living in the fear of the Lord and in the comfort of the Holy Spirit, it increased in numbers. ------CATHOLIC NOT USED!!! >>>Acts 9:31 New American Bible (Revised Edition) The Church at Peace. 31 [a]The church throughout all Judea, Galilee, and Samaria was at peace. It was being built up and walked in the fear of the Lord, and with the consolation of the holy Spirit it grew in numbers. ------CATHOLIC NOT USED!!! >>>>Acts 9:31 1599 Geneva Bible 31 [a]Then had the Churches rest through all Judea, and Galilee, and Samaria, and were [b]edified, and walked in the fear of the Lord, and were multiplied by the comfort of the holy Ghost. -----CATHOLIC NOT USED!!! >>>>Acts 9:31 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition 31 Now the church had peace throughout all Judea, and Galilee, and Samaria; and was edified, walking in the fear of the Lord, and was filled with the consolation of the Holy Ghost. ----CATHOLIC NOT USED!!! >>>>Acts 9:31 Amplified Bible 31 So the church throughout Judea and Galilee and Samaria enjoyed peace [without persecution], being built up [in wisdom, virtue, and faith]; and walking in the fear of the Lord and in the comfort and encouragement of the Holy Spirit, it continued to grow [in numbers]. ---CATHOLIC NOT USED!!! >AGAIN, NO CATHOLIC BIBLE EVER uses the name "Catholic" as "throughout all"!!! >>>FACT: READ those verses from each bible. What IS the subject?? PEACE!!!! In THREE areas of Judea!!! NO mention of Greece, Italy, Spain or any other country/nation/kingdom!!!! >>>>Quote----#8 You say “Christ never taught we can pray to the dead”. Well your right, and the saints in heaven are not dead. In (Matthew 22:32) Jesus says, ‘I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? He is not God of the dead, but of the living.” Also at the transfiguration Jesus spoke to Moses and Elijah. We believe they are part of the Body of Christ and we can ask them to pray for us, just like we ask brothers and sisters on Earth to pray for us....unquote AGAIN------ --Ecclesiastes 9:5-6 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, and they have no more reward, for the memory of them is forgotten. Their love and their hate and their envy have already perished, and forever they have no more share in all that is done under the sun. ---Psalm 6:5 For in death there is no remembrance of you; in Sheol who will give you praise? ---Psalm 146:4 When his breath departs, he returns to the earth; on that very day his plans perish. ---- Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it. ---Ecclesiastes 9:6 Their love and their hate and their envy have already perished, and forever they have no more share in all that is done under the sun. ---Genesis 3:19 By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread, till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; for you are dust, and to dust you shall return.” ----James 2:26 For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also faith apart from works is dead. ---Job 14:10-12 But a man dies and is laid low; man breathes his last, and where is he? As waters fail from a lake and a river wastes away and dries up, so a man lies down and rises not again; till the heavens are no more he will not awake or be roused out of his sleep. --****John 3:13 No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man. ---Hebrews 9:27 And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment. (Judgement on Judgement day) ---Acts 7:60 And falling to his knees he cried out with a loud voice, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them.” And when he had said this, he fell asleep (died ---Revelation 20:4 Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. -----Job 14:12 So a man lies down and rises not again; till the heavens are no more he will not awake or be roused out of his sleep. According to Catholics, God and the Gospels are liars !!!! >>Quote---Also at the transfiguration Jesus spoke to Moses and Elijah. ...unquote Yes--their spirits!!! - Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it. page 3 next

[@adrianasuyama]

One thing I haven’t heard in this talk, which is a main concern regarding praying or speaking to people who are deceased, is the command against necromancy, or consulting the dead. It seems to be too fine a line that often gets crossed, and many catholic people believe that our deceased loved ones guide us through life, and walk with us. And that is a very clear thing in scripture for what not to do

[@jerome2642]

You are right to define NECROMANCY as "consulting spirits of the dead". But that definition is incomplete. You must include "magic" in the definition, because every English dictionary defines necromancy as "a magical act" or "a form of black magic". And so NECROMANCY isn't simply the act of "communicating with people who have died". Rather, it is the act of using MAGICAL POWERS to CONSULT spirits of the dead. And the word "consult" means "seeking information or knowledge about something" A good example of Necromancy is described in 1 Samuel chapter 28. Here, King Saul asked a woman to use her MAGICAL powers to summon or call up the spirit of Samuel because he wanted to CONSULT Samuel i.e he was seeking knowledge or information about the future of his kingdom from Samuel. Saul wasn't just COMMUNICATING with Samuel; he was specifically CONSULTING Samuel (Not every COMMUNICATION is a CONSULTATION) Catholics do not practice Necromancy because (a) They do not utilize any form of magical powers to "summon" or "call up" Mary or any of the saints in heaven (b) They are not consulting Mary for any information about future events. They are simply asking her to pray to God on their behalf

[@destinyamaya3131]

I would love Allie to talk about communion, and the biblical defintion of worship. Christians have only started to beleive that communion is purely symbolic in the last 500 years. I think this is essential doctrine that needs to be spoken on.

[@mark-be9mq]

Luther & Calvin believed in the Presence of Christ in the Eucharist. I think the change in theology was later for many as sects broke from sects protestants.

[@kamarwashington]

@@mark-be9mqthey believed in real presence but not transubstantiation

[@vincentandrews301]

The 2nd century Christian Church father Tertullian wrote, "Having taken the bread and given it to His disciples, Jesus made it His own body, by saying, 'This is My body,' that is, the symbol of My body. There could not have been a symbol, however, unless there was first a true body. An empty thing or phantom is incapable of a symbol." (Against Marcion, 4.40) This is in the context of refuting the Docetic heresy of denying that Jesus had a physical body. But Tertullian clearly wrote that the bread is a symbol of His body. You may not agree, but this debunks the claim that the symbolic view of communion is some new Protestant idea

[@oliver8160]

​@@kamarwashington Transubstantiation is just the technical explanation of real presence. It does not take Jesus out of the Eucharist which protestants today have done.

[@destinyamaya3131]

Where in scripture does it say communion is purely symbolic?

[@melindatowle2440]

I’ve been a protestant since I was 23 years old when I first came to know Jesus and now I’m starting my inquiry in the fall towards the Catholic Church.

[@bluecomb5376]

Praise God! I'll be praying for you

[@thomasshepard9149]

Good for you come home!

[@7ruijorge]

dont be deceived.

[@mitchellosmer1293]

quote--- now I’m starting my inquiry in the fall towards the Catholic Church... unquote WHY???? I suggest you compare the teachings of catholics to Christian!!! WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD RESTED on the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD BLESSED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD SANCTIFIED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD NAMED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD DECLARED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK as HIS HOLY DAY to make that day special???

[@thomasshepard9149]

@@mitchellosmer1293 what in the Martin Luther is going on here. Which prot denom claims this man? Speak up

[@billmartin3561]

Catholic convert from Presbyterian here, this was a fantastic interview, very charitable on both sides. Would love to hear more from Trent on justification and clear up the huge misunderstanding of the role of works - as he said we cannot merit initial justification, but our works can increase our sanctification once when we are justified. Catholics need to understand what our church teaches on this as well…we cannot earn salvation. Looking forward to part two!!!

[@revelation12_1]

Increasing our sanctification has nothing to do with earning salvation. For instance, Protestants often quote Ephesians 2:8-9 to say works don’t matter: 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and this is not your own doing, it is the gift of God -- 9 not because of works, lest any man should boast. But then ignore the very next verse: _10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them._ Even Jesus says that not everyone who says Lord Lord will enter the kingdom but only the one who _does_ the will of the Father.

[@SavedbytheLordsgrace1]

The works are a *by-product* of saving faith, but no good work a human being could do could ever merit salvation. That’s why verse 10 isn’t quoted, because verses 8-9 emphasise that salvation is GOD’S work and Catholics so often misunderstand v. 10 to argue that works save us. All saving faith will *produce* good works (otherwise it’s antinomian rubbish and not real faith), but to argue that good works produce or contribute to a person’s righteousness in any way, as Catholicism and the rest of the world does, is heresy and not true. Righteousness comes only from trusting in Christ. And when a person trusts in Jesus and is born again, then they can walk in the good works that He prepared for them in advance. (V. 10). Which shows that sanctification is also Jesus’s work, as He’s the Founder and Perfecter of the faith of those who trust in Him (Hebrews 12:2)

[@David77757]

​@@SavedbytheLordsgrace1One thing is Salvation and another thing is the time and type of sentence in purgatory for purification.

[@annapetersen7718]

@@SavedbytheLordsgrace1 what are your thoughts on James 2:24? “You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.”

[@dansmith9724]

​@David77757 purgatory wasn't a thing until the catholic church introduced it in the 1200s ad. Like many Doctrines introduced several hundred years or more after Christ died. In this case more than a thousand years.

[@allenlopez9731]

Trent does a wonderful job in clarifying Catholic doctrine, esp on the BVM, the bugbear among Protestants. And he does it without the help of a laptop beside him to fact check. Sorry, Allie, this cradle (and faithful) Catholic’s faith has been strengthened even more by this debate. So, thank you.

[@AraceliSpeed]

So excited to see this!! I consider myself a Protestant but my husband was raised Catholic and I’m doing my best to educate myself on the Catholic faith. Love Trent’s content!

[@lo5182]

Continue on your journey. Catholic Answers is a great resource. Long Live Christ the King!

[@alejandrafernandez6763]

You should continue your faith, and get him to see your side.

[@AllforOne_OneforAll1689]

Ask your husband if he can justify papal infallibility, papal succession and purgatory via any clear and explicit evidence in any of the Apostles epistles. God bless

[@ivanN1001]

Interesting, I’m talking to someone who is Catholic but I’m a Protestants. How would you describe your relationship by being with someone who is Catholic. How do you spend your Sunday for example?

[@AraceliSpeed]

@@ivanN1001 We have been going to mass on Sundays which I have come to really appreciate. Before that we would go to a Baptist church. Then my husband asked that I really give Catholicism a fair chance and that’s when I started educating myself. Still have a long way to go in my research but I’ve learned a lot.

[@FreedomEagle1776]

I used to be an atheist, then moved to be a Protestant and finally came to become a Catholic. Reading and research brought me to the Catholic faith.

[@DavidJosephBoth]

That and a worldly love of big churches and needing a group and praise from men? Jesus told you to call no man upon this earth your father, for you have one father which is in heaven. THey call the pope Kodesh Abba hahhaha

[@haronsmith8974]

@@DavidJosephBothyou know Jesus spoke metaphorically right? Because Paul literally calls himself the spiritual father of the Corinthians

[@DavidJosephBoth]

@@haronsmith8974 there is nothing metaphoric about it. And you know that. Paul is not telling them metaphorically he begat them in the gospel. He did. He also said whether Paul or Appolos or Cephas etc... they are nothing, but Christ is everything. And he never told anyone to call him father. We have ONE father. Stop trying to overturn the words of Christ. If you don't believe him you should find another religions. Catholics shouldn't try to warp other peoples religion, they should have fully invented their own.

[@haronsmith8974]

@@DavidJosephBoth 1) Catholicism precedes every other Church. 2) The Church is the Body of Christ, each member is an individual Christ and part of him as well. The word Christian literally means little anointed one. 3) Yes Jesus was speaking metaphorically, he said call no man teacher, and I bet unless you’re a hypocrite that you call someone a teacher. I bet you’ve called your own father, father. 4) This would make Paul a false teacher when he refers himself as the spiritual father of the Corinthians. You have bad theology and you shouldn’t be on the internet throwing stone when you live in a glass house.

[@DavidJosephBoth]

@@haronsmith8974 1.) You had no Pope until 1050ad. You had no council of Nicea for centuries, you had no bible till trent which was many more centuries. 2.) The Church is the body of believer in Christ, while that's true you're not part of it. Christian doesn't mean "little anointed one" it means "followers of the anointed one! ;) it's a transliteration of the Hebrew "messianic". 3.) I call him dad. But it's hilarious how you Catholic heathens move heaven and earth to try and claim Jesus Christ's words are literal, or to be taken serious and you don't even blink. 4.) no it wouldn't make Paul a false teachers, he said "as a father i have begotten you in the gospel" which is the Gospel of Grace where you have "One Father" which is in heaven. Because you are supposed to be spiritually born according to PAUL. ;) You don't have to cry, you can still worship Mary and call the Pope your "Kodesh Abba" at least for a while. Until you die, then it's up out of the grave and you can give this nonsense argument to Christ himself, when he condemns the hundreds of millions of you doing so "when the son of man returns will he find faith on the earth?" - this wouldn't make sense if the catholic church of mary was actually believing the words of Jesus Christ... which they don't. 3.)

[@andrewscotteames4718]

Trent played a big role in converting me to Catholicism after being an evangelical Protestant for many years. I love the guy 😊

[@bradleykimmons]

Every Christian should be “evangelical”

[@supercoolandawesomefr]

@@bradleykimmons you know what they mean bro

[@bradleykimmons]

@@supercoolandawesomefr no, not really. I think there’s a serious issue within the Catholic Church reaching out to unbelievers. And it’s not helped by Catholics constantly positioning themselves as “not” evangelical.

[@melodybarbour3218]

The RCC doctrine changes the gospel and that means it is not a saving gospel, it is a works gospel. I get this information I am sharing from Mike Gendron and his Proclaiming the Gospel ministry. Mike is an ex-roman catholic, as am I. God opened my eyes to the false teaching of the RCC. There are many Scriptures in the Bible that state we are saved by God’s grace alone. Jesus is the ONLY way, not one of many multiple-choice ways that so many false religions teach. John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.” The numbers Mike put after what the RCC teaches is the paragraph number where it is found in the Catechism of the Catholic Church The Bible teaches: Titus 3:5 “He saved us, not because of any righteous deeds we had done, but because of His mercy” RCC doctrine teaches that “by His death and resurrection, Jesus Christ has ‘opened’ heaven to us” [1026]. Each person attains His own salvation by grace and good works [1477]. The Bible teaches: 1 Peter 1:18-19 knowing that you were not redeemed with perishable things like sliver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your forefathers, [19] but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ. These words apply to the Lord Jesus Christ alone, not to Mary but RCC doctrine teaches that Mary is the sinless co-redeemer, “Without a single sin to restrain her, she gave herself entirely to the person and work of her son; she did so in order to serve the mystery of redemption with Him…being obedient she became the cause of salvation for herself and for the whole human race” [494] The above doctrine of the RCC is blasphemy, it is the doctrine of demons. NOWHERE in Scripture does it say that any person except the Lord Jesus is sinless. Mary knew she was a sinner and in need of a Savior. Luke 1:46-47 And Mary said: “My soul exalts the Lord, [47] And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior! The Bible teaches: Hebrews 10:14 For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified and Hebrews 7:27-28 who does not need daily, like those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the sins of the people, because this He did once for all when He offered up Himself.” Jesus said when He was hanging on the cross: John 19:28-30 After this, Jesus, knowing that all things had already been accomplished, to fulfill the Scripture, said, “I am thirsty.” [29] A jar full of sour wine was standing there; so they put a sponge full of the sour wine upon a branch of hyssop and brought it up to His mouth. [30] Therefore when Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, “It is finished!” And He bowed His head and gave up His spirit. RCC doctrine denies it is finished. Which means they are calling Jesus a liar when He Himself said IT IS FINISHED! RCC doctrine states” The sacrifice of Christ and the sacrifice of the eucharist are one single sacrifice..the same Christ who offered Himself once in a bloody manner on the altar of the cross is contained and offered in a unbloody manner” [1397]. The sacrifice is “offered in reparation for the sins of the living and the dead” [1414]. The RCC is saying that Jesus is continually being sacrificed on the alter, that is why they have Him hanging on the cross. Jesus is not on the cross, He is seated at the right hand of the Father. RCC priests actually think they have the authority to call Almighty God from His throne in heaven to sacrifice Him on their ‘altar’ and they actually believe they are turning bread and wine into the actual body of Jesus Christ. And then the priest holds up this fake Jesus for the congregation to worship. BLASPHEMY! IDOLATRY! They are worshipping a false Jesus. Who would want mankind to worship a false Jesus and believe a false gospel? Satan of course. Jesus did not die for dead people. After we die our eternity is sealed forever. If Jesus is not your Lord and Savior, your eternity will be in hell. We have nothing whatsoever to offer to God. We come to Him with a broken spirit. Psalm 51:17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart, O God, You will not despise. We cannot do any works to earn our way to heaven. Jesus said, “Repent and believe the gospel.”

[@kafon6368]

@@bradleykimmons It is not easy being Catholic. There are many teachings we must adhere to, which is explained in the Catechism. For an evangelical, literally all you need is Jesus.

[@johnypify]

For Ms. Allie my prayers of an angel, Hail Mary full of Grace, the Lord is with You.

[@brittanygarcia4393]

Loyal Catholic listener here! Thank you for having Trent Horn on. He is great! What a lovely conversation to listen too. I could listen to respectful conversations like this all day!!!

[@luciasss457]

⁠@getrit3007Chicago priest needs to reread what Pope Francis said about this issue….

[@WC3isBetterThanReforged]

​@getrit3007 if the priest in Chicago is blessing same sex unions, then his bishop should discipline him. However, sola scriptura would not necessarily fix that. Methodists, Lutherans, congregationalists, non-denoms, episcopalians all cite sola scriptura and have varying interpretations. But that priest's bishop can look to definitive teaching and say that priest is wrong. While the dicastery for the doctrine of the faith did issue a document saying homosexuals may be blessed, it can not be such a way that endorses a relationship or endorses their sin. If the priest is doing otherwise he is wrong and going against church teaching.

[@WC3isBetterThanReforged]

@getrit3007 my point was that catholics not only have authoritative scripture but authoritative interpretation by which we can objectively say that priest is teaching error. As for all those denominations i listed, if you don't like the conservative interpretation in a methodist church, you can go down the street to the liberal or vice versa, but both are methodist. But since everything is personal interpretation, there is no heterodoxy or orthodoxy, just differing personal interpretations. And if you call a liberal version of your preferred denomination a heretic, well, that's just your personal interpretation.

[@WC3isBetterThanReforged]

@getrit3007 John 12:48, we actually agree on this point.

[@WC3isBetterThanReforged]

@getrit3007 too long to copy and paste by read persona humana (1964), para 8 in particular. www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19751229_persona-humana_en.html

[@thesagetraveler7649]

Not Catholic but I really like Trent. He just seems like a really nice guy and I appreciate his willingness to have these conversations.

[@revelation12_1]

Not Catholic yet. Jesus, the New Adam, Mary the New Eve. Jesus, from the manna fulfilled as the bread of life, the stone tablets fulfilled in the Word made flesh, the rod of Aaron fulfilled as the True High Priest. The manna, the tablets, the rod contained inside the Ark, fulfilled in Mary the Ark of the New Covenant who carried God in her womb.

[@100zazz]

He’s great, help me understand a lot and his videos always have a message of kindness and truth and he’s very well spoken with clarity

[@juliawalker1975]

Trent's motivation is to convert you. As well as all these fans who are convinced Rome is the only church. Protestant naively believe Rome believes Protestant faith is real, but Rome believes they are the Only true church (and spend a lot on these Catholic Answers campaigns). As do Eastern Orthodox. And oriental orthodox. Watch some Gavin Ortlund on Truth Unites.

[@KeanF84]

@@revelation12_1lol what? 😂

[@keithmanuel3315]

​@@revelation12_1Where does it say that Mary was a new Eve? This is the issue with Catholicism. A lot of ideas and beliefs are not based on biblical scriptures.

[@youaresomethingelsereally6260]

I'm grateful she was willing to have this debate with Trent so that we can see the truth of the Catholic church! Palestinian Catholic here.

[@miguelinteriano125]

Beautiful 🫶🫶🙏

[@leenieledejo6849]

🤦🏻‍♀️

[@susand3668]

Our prayers are with you!!

[@mitchellosmer1293]

WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD RESTED on the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD BLESSED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD SANCTIFIED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD NAMED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD DECLARED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK as HIS HOLY DAY to make that day special??? Book, chapter and verse!!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where in the bible is said Mary can hear our prayers? Book, chapter and verse Where in the bible is said Mary went to/will go to heaven? Book, chapter and verse Where in the bible is said Mary is a mediator/imtercessor? Book, chapter and verse Where in the bible is said Mary remained a virgin? Book, chapter and verse Where in the bible is said Mary was sinless? Book, chapter and verse Where in the bible is said Mary is to be worshiped.prayed to? Book, chapter and verse I KNOW absolutely NO Catholic will reply!!! If one does, every answer will be either out of context, or twisted scripture.

[@susand3668]

Dear@@mitchellosmer1293, yes, we have all read the Bible. God named the seventh day to be a day of rest. He told us in the 10 Commandments to keep holy the Sabbath Day, and we are told how to do this under the Law of Moses. But during the time of the Maccabees, the Greeks wiped out a village of observant Judeans on a Sabbath (1 Maccabees 2:25-38). So those who sat in the Seat of Moses, determined that Judeans could defend themselves if attacked on the Sabbath (1 Maccabees 2:39-41.) Jesus refers to this incident in Mark 3:4. Jesus came to fulfill the law. Not just in a ritualistic way, under the Mosaic Law, but also in the Maccabeen sense of saving Life. And not just on one day a week, but on every day. I am writing this response as a courtesy to you, to give you a fair chance at understanding how far your understanding of the Sabbath is from that which is taught in the Bible (since you do not have the the books of the Maccabees in your Bible, you would not know this history that everyone in Judea and Galilee knew at the time Jesus walked the earth.) But I doubt that I will reply to anything you may say to me, since you have already proclaimed that you intend to read what I say in a twisted manner.

[@Johuma27]

Grew up Catholic but have been attending a protestant church for the last 6 years. My family and I have been really loving it, but lately I have been feeling this pull towards my dear Catholic church. One of the first things that kinda nudged me was my desire for confession. I dont think people realize how powerful it is.

[@lindaakguest4ever50]

Come on home!

[@kimberlyi1756]

Come back home

[@happyappy19931]

Confessing to a priest instead of the Lord?

[@dudzgames548]

❤

[@joshuakoh7858]

We all sometimes experience Christ through others. That’s why we thank God when our friends do good things for us. The good fruits of confession should at least open us to the possibility that confession is good

[@victoriaeinbinder9487]

Thank you for this discussion! When I first became Catholic, I tried to be like Trent, but without the training or the gifts the Holy Spirit has gifted him. I just wanted every Christian to know the fulfillment of the Catholic faith. Thank you Lord for all Christians of good will, like Allie, and great apologists like Trent.

[@mitchellosmer1293]

FACTS: #1--Christ NEVER taught that Peter is a pope.-(where is the title Pope in the Bible?) #2--Christ NEVER taught that Mary will go to heaven. (Where does the bible say Mary will go/has gone to heaven?) #3--Christ NEVER taught that Mary is a mediator/intercessor. (Where does the bible say Mary is a mediator? #4--Christ NEVER taught that Mary never sinned. (Where in the bible does it state Mary never sinned?) #5--Christ NEVER taught that Mary remained virgin. (Where in the bible does it state Mary remained a virgin?) #6--Christ NEVER Taught that a mere man is head of His church. (Where is the Bible does it state a mere man is head of Christ's church?) #7--Christ NEVER taught about a church named Catholic. (Where in the Bible is a church named Catholic mentioned?) #8--Christ NEVER taught that we can pray to the dead.-(Where is the bible does it state we can pray to the dead?) #9--Christ NEVER taught that the dead can hear our prayers. (Where in the bible does it state the dead can hear our prayers #10--Christ NEVER taught that anyone can change the day of worship . (Where in the Bible does IT STATE GOD changed the day of worship to Sunday?) #11--Christ NEVER taught to confess to a "priest". (Where in the Bible does it state we are to confess our sins to a Priest?) #12--Christ NEVER Taught a priest can forgive your sins. (Where in the Bible does it state a priest can forgive our sins #13--Christ NEVER taught salvation is through a church..(Where is the bible does it state our salvation comes from a church #14--Christ NEVER taught to pray to, or with beads!!! (Where in the bile does it state we are to use/pray to beads?) #15--Christ NEVER started a church named Catholic!!! (Where in the Bible does it mention a church named Catholic?) By your refusal to refute my facts, implies they ARE ALL CORRECT!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RESEARCH: The writings of the NT were written, considered Scripture, and being circulated among the churches while the Authors were still alive and well -- see 2Peter 3:15-16, Colossians 4:16, 1Peter 1:1, John 20:30-31, Galatians 1:4, etc. -- these Authors were NOT part of the Roman Church.

[@ela1126]

Cradle Catholic to agnostic/deist then Jesus called me back to the church. I was led back. I just want to express gratitude for the present Catholic apologists as well as the Protestant content creators like Allie. I am continually learning more and more and my faith is getting stronger and stronger. Thank you.

[@togodbetheglory4942]

Please read you Bible don’t lose the way don’t be blinded. I believe sooner God will bring you out of this false church. Remember we don’t belong in a church we are putting our trust in God so please read the Bible for yourselves. God is the way the truth and the light. Please let the truth be revealed to you. If a church breaks even one of God rules or adds to the Bible it’s not God’s church remember what God said revelations “And I solemnly declare to everyone who hears the words of prophecy written in this book: If anyone adds anything to what is written here, God will add to that person the plagues described in this book.” Revelation 22:18 there are many things the Catholic Church assess to the Bible and also misinterprets the Bible and makes up its own things that were never Moncton to be followed in the Bible forgetting that the Bible is what we look at not the church. Here are a few things that the Catholic Church has changed 1. Praying to Saints and Mary • Catholic Practice: Catholics pray to saints and Mary, asking them to intercede with God on their behalf. Bible: in the Bible Christ is the only mediator between God and man (1 Timothy 2:5), praying to saints is never mentioned in the Bible that is idolatry 2. Veneration of Mary • Catholic Practice: holding Mary, the mother of Jesus, in very high regard, calling her the "Queen of Heaven" and emphasizing her perpetual virginity, immaculate conception, and assumption into heaven. In the Bible While Mary is honored in the Bible, critics claim that doctrines such as the Immaculate Conception (Mary being conceived without sin) and the Assumption (Mary being taken bodily into heaven) are not explicitly found in Scripture. It is blasphemous to say that Mary is the queen of heaven. On God rules the heaven so why would a someone created by God be on the same level as God. There is no place in the Bible no single place that says that Mary was taken to heaven and is queen of heaven this is a idolatry but not many people realize this.

[@kaykay1076]

Welcome back home!❤

[@ericah4232]

Proud Catholic mother here, thank you Allie for hosting Trent, please please do more of these, it even helps me learn more about my own faith. Thank you for a respectful and thoughtful conversation. God Bless you, Allie

[@alexshatner3907]

Is Mary the Mother of God? No, the Bible does not teach that Mary is the mother of God, nor does it suggest that Christians should either worship or venerate Mary. a Consider: • Mary never claimed that she was the mother of God. The Bible explains that she gave birth to “the Son of God,” not God himself.-Mark 1:1; Luke 1:32. • Jesus Christ never said that Mary was God’s mother or that she was worthy of special devotion. In fact, he corrected a woman who gave special attention to Mary’s happy role as his mother, saying: “No, rather, happy are those hearing the word of God and keeping it!”-Luke 11:27, 28. • The terms “Mother of God” and “Theotokos” (God-bearer) are not found in the Bible. • The expression “Queen of Heaven” in the Bible refers, not to Mary, but to a false goddess worshipped by apostate Israelites. (Jeremiah 44:15-19) The “Queen of Heaven” may have been Ishtar (Astarte), a Babylonian goddess. • Early Christians did not worship Mary, nor did they give her any special honor. One historian states that early Christians “would have rejected cults and probably feared that undue attention to Mary might evoke a suspicion of goddess worship.”-In Quest of the Jewish Mary. • The Bible says that God has always existed. (Psalm 90:1, 2; Isaiah 40:28) Since he had no beginning, he cannot have a mother. Furthermore, Mary could not have held God in her womb; the Bible makes clear that even the heavens cannot contain him.-1 Kings 8:27. Mary-Mother of Jesus not “Mother of God” Mary was Jewish by birth, and she was a direct descendant of King David. (Luke 3:23-31) She was highly favored by God for her faith and devotion. (Luke 1:28) God chose her to become the mother of Jesus. (Luke 1:31, 35) Along with her husband, Joseph, Mary had other children.-Mark 6:3. Although the Bible shows that Mary became a disciple of Jesus, not much additional information is given about her.-Acts 1:14. Why do some consider Mary the mother of God? The earliest evidence of devotion to Mary dates from the late fourth century C.E. At that time, the Catholic Church became the State religion of the Roman Empire. As a result, many who had a pagan background became nominal Christians. The church had also adopted the unscriptural teaching of the Trinity. The doctrine of the Trinity led many in the church to conclude that if Jesus were God, then Mary must be the mother of God. In 431 C.E., a church council in Ephesus officially proclaimed Mary the “Mother of God.” Mariolatry-the excessive veneration of Mary-flourished after this Council of Ephesus. And as those from a pagan background joined the church, images and icons of the Virgin Mary gradually took the place of their fertility goddesses, such as Artemis (Diana, to the Romans) and Isis. In 432 C.E., Pope Sixtus III ordered a church to be built in Rome in honor of the “Mother of God.” It was built near the site of an earlier temple erected in honor of Lucina, the Roman goddess of childbirth. One author described this church as “an enduring symbol of the assimilation of the Great Mother of the pagan cults to the cult of Mary after the Christianization of Rome.”-Mary-The Complete Resource.

[@SerenaJordan-s4w]

Your discussion of why we don't pray to Mary was phenomenal! Your defense of the faith was strong and inspiring! Well done!

[@TheMoreYouSew]

Also, have Scott Hahn on about Mary! He is a previously Reformed minister turned Catholic.

[@loveisaiah622]

My all time favourite. He makes scripture sing.

[@ashleyargall8791]

Yes, second this request!

[@joeterp5615]

Scott Hahn would be fabulous. But if he’s on it’s more to share the wondrous truths of the faith… and not really to debate.

[@galaxxy09]

I would highly recommend reading him book ‘Hail Holy Queen’. Goes into a lot of detail about where Mary fits in with Christianity.

[@johnchacko1425]

tim staples book behold your mother

[@MiddleDaughter]

I am a devout Catholic, however I come back to Allie’s page constantly. Despite doctrinal differences, I love her faith, her knowledge of scripture and her beautiful service to God through this ministry. God bless you and your family in your ministry.

[@MiddleDaughter]

@Whatintheworlt I don’t watch all of her videos, so I can’t make a determination to this cringe you speak of. However my original point stands. We have lots of doctrinal differences (including but not limited to the Catholic understanding of the same scriptures she has a different interpretation of) but she has much of her scripture memorized, she’s put herself out in the world to share her faith and Jesus. While she disagrees with Catholic theology she isn’t online spitting on people who identify as Catholics. If not for her forum we wouldn’t have had the opportunity to see this discussion for instance. I could not abide an existence without the Jesus in the Eucharist so this page will not change my firm faith, however I love seeing people speak publicly about Jesus and His unfathomable love and mercy. All that being said, I respect your right to your opinion. I may disagree with her interpretation of scripture, however Jesus is The Word and to quote scripture verbatim is to share Christ. I have trust in Gods power that He is capable of using all of us broken vessels to share His Mercy, and if someone is seeking God will their whole heart, we’ve been told that we WILL find Him. “My grace is sufficient for you, for My power is made perfect in weakness.” Anyway, I’ll stop, I don’t disagree that there is a possibility, and obviously it’s happened given all the churches with same sex couples who are married, or where trans people are pastors etc. I have not witnessed anything I would consider demonic when I’ve seen Allie’s videos. I am open to being wrong.

[@melodybarbour3218]

The RCC doctrine changes the gospel and that means it is not a saving gospel, it is a works gospel. I get this information I am sharing from Mike Gendron and his Proclaiming the Gospel ministry. Mike is an ex-roman catholic, as am I. God opened my eyes to the false teaching of the RCC. There are many Scriptures in the Bible that state we are saved by God’s grace alone. Jesus is the ONLY way, not one of many multiple-choice ways that so many false religions teach. John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.” The numbers Mike put after what the RCC teaches is the paragraph number where it is found in the Catechism of the Catholic Church The Bible teaches: Titus 3:5 “He saved us, not because of any righteous deeds we had done, but because of His mercy” RCC doctrine teaches that “by His death and resurrection, Jesus Christ has ‘opened’ heaven to us” [1026]. Each person attains His own salvation by grace and good works [1477]. The Bible teaches: 1 Peter 1:18-19 knowing that you were not redeemed with perishable things like sliver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your forefathers, [19] but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ. These words apply to the Lord Jesus Christ alone, not to Mary but RCC doctrine teaches that Mary is the sinless co-redeemer, “Without a single sin to restrain her, she gave herself entirely to the person and work of her son; she did so in order to serve the mystery of redemption with Him…being obedient she became the cause of salvation for herself and for the whole human race” [494] The above doctrine of the RCC is blasphemy, it is the doctrine of demons. NOWHERE in Scripture does it say that any person except the Lord Jesus is sinless. Mary knew she was a sinner and in need of a Savior. Luke 1:46-47 And Mary said: “My soul exalts the Lord, [47] And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior! The Bible teaches: Hebrews 10:14 For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified and Hebrews 7:27-28 who does not need daily, like those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the sins of the people, because this He did once for all when He offered up Himself.” Jesus said when He was hanging on the cross: John 19:28-30 After this, Jesus, knowing that all things had already been accomplished, to fulfill the Scripture, said, “I am thirsty.” [29] A jar full of sour wine was standing there; so they put a sponge full of the sour wine upon a branch of hyssop and brought it up to His mouth. [30] Therefore when Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, “It is finished!” And He bowed His head and gave up His spirit. RCC doctrine denies it is finished. Which means they are calling Jesus a liar when He Himself said IT IS FINISHED! RCC doctrine states” The sacrifice of Christ and the sacrifice of the eucharist are one single sacrifice..the same Christ who offered Himself once in a bloody manner on the altar of the cross is contained and offered in a unbloody manner” [1397]. The sacrifice is “offered in reparation for the sins of the living and the dead” [1414]. The RCC is saying that Jesus is continually being sacrificed on the alter, that is why they have Him hanging on the cross. Jesus is not on the cross, He is seated at the right hand of the Father. RCC priests actually think they have the authority to call Almighty God from His throne in heaven to sacrifice Him on their ‘altar’ and they actually believe they are turning bread and wine into the actual body of Jesus Christ. And then the priest holds up this fake Jesus for the congregation to worship. BLASPHEMY! IDOLATRY! They are worshipping a false Jesus. Who would want mankind to worship a false Jesus and believe a false gospel? Satan of course. Jesus did not die for dead people. After we die our eternity is sealed forever. If Jesus is not your Lord and Savior, your eternity will be in hell. We have nothing whatsoever to offer to God. We come to Him with a broken spirit. Psalm 51:17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart, O God, You will not despise. We cannot do any works to earn our way to heaven. Jesus said, “Repent and believe the gospel.”

[@MiddleDaughter]

@@melodybarbour3218 God bless you. You misquoted the actual catechism. Rather than quote someone who is misrepresenting it, you can just find the actual entries online if you don’t own a copy. I appreciate you are passionately against the church, but it is confusing since you said several things that the church doesn’t actually teach, endorse or believe. You seem to be against your misunderstandings of Catholicism rather than what it actually is. Regardless, I am glad you have a relationship with Christ and that you’ve found a means to passionately trust in His goodness and mercy. God bless you and your loved ones on your faith journey♥️

[@melodybarbour3218]

@@MiddleDaughter Please correct me where I misquoted it. The RC doctrine changes God's word. God is the highest authority. We don't believe man's doctrine over God's word.

[@gottalovechelly6879]

Thank you for this interview. I was raised Catholic but I needed to figure things out on my own because I wondered if our faith was really the truth. Fast forward 5 years later I ended up back to the Catholic Church. I decided to go through RCIA to better understand my own faith and I fully confirmed to the Catholic Church in 2022. I thank God every single day for allowing me to find and understand the full truth. I am now a devout Catholic to God be all the glory 🙏🏼 I pray for all my brothers and sisters who are in limbo, those who are curious and wondering, and those who doubt and are skeptical. May God lead your path and may you find the full truth. God bless you all.

[@billyg898]

Awesome news! May God bless you too! I was raised basically non-religious, then became an atheist just after high school, then anti-theist mid-way through university, then a skeptic near the end, then a theist by the time I left, then about 10 years after that (and a lot of asking questions and discerning), I was baptized and confirmed in to the Catholic Church in 2021.

[@chingo3387]

18 years of being a Catholic. Baptized, received most of the sacraments. Went to Catholic schools . We rarely opened a Bible. I had no idea of scripture. Was always going to confession for fear the Priest wouldn't absolve my sins. Knew I was going to hell for committing mortal sins.Not going to Mass every Sunday. BORN AGAIN through the love of our lord Jesus Christ.

[@mitchellosmer1293]

WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD RESTED on the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD BLESSED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD SANCTIFIED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD NAMED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD DECLARED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK as HIS HOLY DAY to make that day special??? Book, chapter and verse!!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where in the bible is said Mary can hear our prayers? Book, chapter and verse Where in the bible is said Mary went to/will go to heaven? Book, chapter and verse Where in the bible is said Mary is a mediator/imtercessor? Book, chapter and verse Where in the bible is said Mary remained a virgin? Book, chapter and verse Where in the bible is said Mary was sinless? Book, chapter and verse Where in the bible is said Mary is to be worshiped.prayed to? Book, chapter and verse I KNOW absolutely NO Catholic will reply!!! If one does, every answer will be either out of context, or twisted scripture.

[@billyg898]

@@mitchellosmer1293 You are asking for book, chapter and verse as if we accept sola scriptura. We don't. Tell me: Were in the bible is sola scriptura? Book, chapter and verse! It's not there, so why are you accepting it and expecting us to accept it? I'm fairly certain that no matter what I quote from scripture, you won't accept it anyway. I originally wrote a long comment providing some of this, but then decided that it wouldn't matter to you anyway.

[@mitchellosmer1293]

@@billyg898 quote--You are asking for book, chapter and verse as if we accept sola scriptura. We don't... unquote I know!! NO catholic ever read a bible!! Not matter anyways!! What catholicx carew what it says anyways???? ----quote---Tell me: Were in the bible is sola scriptura? Book, chapter and verse! It's not there, so why are you accepting it and expecting us to accept it?.. unquote That comment PROVES your ignorance of scripture!!!! The Commandments last forever The works of His hands are verity and justice; All His precepts are sure. They stand fast forever and ever, And are done in truth and uprightness. Psalm 111:7-8 NKJV >>>****Hebrews 4:12 Indeed, the word of God is living and effective, sharper than any two-edged sword, penetrating even between soul and spirit, joints and marrow, and able to discern reflections and thoughts of the heart), or seen implicitly through its lens. ----Catholics say:. Indeed, the word of the Pope (priests) is living and effective..... . *** Deuteronomy 17:14-20 states that we “shall not turn away from God’s Word, not to the right or the left”. -------According to Catholics. They turn to whatever direction they can to satisfy their itching ears. ***Psalm 1:2 and Joshua 1:7-8 says that “the righteous person dwells on the Word of the Lord day and night”. --- According to catholics. They DWELL on every word spoken by a mere man, the Pope (priests). ***Deuteronomy 8:3 states that “we do not live on bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God”. According to Catholics.“we do not live on bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of the Pope (priests)”. ***Proverbs 30:5-6 states: 5 Every word of God proves true; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him. 6 Do not add to his words, lest he rebuke you and you be found a liar. ----According to Catholics. 5 Every word of the Pope proves true; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him. 6 Do not add to his words, lest he rebuke you and you be found a heritic. -----I will ask you, which NO ONE has replied to: Who's other writings does GOD tell us to accept as the truth??? QUOTE FROM the BIBLE!!!!) Remember these words from Jesus: John 14:6 NIV - Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. Since HE IS THE TRUTH, then when a church preaches their version of the truth, who is the truth??? Jesus or the "Church"??? >>>>>>>> Sola Scriptura, or “God’s Word alone,” maintains that the Bible is the highest source of authority in a Christian’s life, the final court of appeal (though not the only authority: the Bible itself mentions governmental and other authorities). Sola fide, or “faith alone,” affirms that justification-being made right with God-comes only through faith in Jesus. Sola gratia, or “grace alone,” says sinners are saved as an unearned gift of God’s grace, “not as a result of works, so that no one may boast” (Eph 2:8-9). Sola Christo (“solus Christus”), or “Christ alone,” emphasizes the exclusivity of Jesus’ role in salvation: “No one comes to the Father except through me” (John 14:6). And soli Deo gloria, or “to the glory of God alone,” says that the purpose of creation, salvation, and everything-including our goal as Christians-is the glory of God, “that God may be all in all” (1 Cor 15:28). I can certainly understand why the roman Catholic does not agree with scripture . It would have to get rid of some , not all , some doctrines that are totally false. Let me add this; let's say a man presents to you an old parchment dated at 30AD. On that parchment states Mary IS NOT the mother of Jesus. Accept as true? Why or why not??? Same parchment states Jesus is NOT the Messiah. You accept as true???? Why or why not? Same parchmant says Jesus is NOT the son of God. You accept as truth??Why or why NOT??? My point' Just because it is written, DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE!! What wil you use to prove those statements are false?? The word of men??? Why not the WORD of God??? >>>>--quote--I'm fairly certain that no matter what I quote from scripture, you won't accept it anyway. I originally wrote a long comment providing some of this, but then decided that it wouldn't matter to you anyway... unquote Go ahead..I will likely rebutt everthing you say. Mostly will be worthless opinions with NO bible quotes. Come on--DO IT!!!! Book, chapter and VERSES!!!

[@user-Strong.Trinitarian]

I am proudly protestant 🥰but I love Catholics. I'm a reformed Anglican

[@tyler9281]

Catholic convert since this past Easter!!! God bless you all and thanks be to God!

[@peaceandlove544]

Bless you

[@Antonia_D]

Welcome home! I hope your journey is as joyful as mine in the Holy Catholic Church. God bless you & your loved ones, and everyone on this channel. May they all discover Catholic authority, history, the Church Fathers, and devotion to Jesus Our Lord and King, through His beloved, Blessed Mother Mary.

[@tomloewen3572]

Trent you did an outstanding job of listening. For over 60 years I believed what this lady says, however I slowly and simply had to progress to Catholicism. Funny thing, now that I am Catholic I love scripture so much more and now so many more of Christ’s parables make sense.

[@coolmaps9157]

❤❤🙏🙏✝✝

[@surfnkid8]

Praise be to God. Amen.

[@shannonvangerpen4129]

I’m a former Baptist and now a Catholic. I appreciate the respectful dialogue without the fighting and arguing.

[@Ruth_1_16]

im sorry but he was not answering the Mary question.. Beating around the bush. I was hoping for an answer but not any catholic has a biblical answer.

[@jennifertiemann6403]

@shannonvangerpen4129, what made you decide to switch from Baptist to Catholic?

[@richarddeerflame]

@@Ruth_1_16 What makes you not see Mary as being special. No other women on earth birthed in virginity nor birthed our own Saviour ... To be pure.... For God to enter as man... the vessel has to be pure its logical .... totaly logical. think about it.

[@TheMorning_Son]

It cause its all catholic/ orthodox/anti protestant propaganda online ​@Loved-ByGod

[@shannonvangerpen4129]

@@Ruth_1_16 scripture tells us to honor our father and mother and to also honor the things that God honors. So it follows that we should also honor (not worship) the mother of our Lord.

[@jenniferwhiten1884]

I’m a Protestant - but I want to hear more from him for some reason

[@the-lord-is-my-shepardd]

It’s the holy sprit❤

[@mariaapplegate1870]

That’s great. Also look up Dr. Scott Hahn. Many blessings🙏.

[@daniellep6705]

Another is Brant Pitre, but definitely look at Scott Hahn

[@drake8858]

It is difficult to find more interesting theology than the Catholic church. So much history and very deep theological ideas in the church. A church of explorers, scientists, artists, poets, and theological geniuses

[@whatthefitt]

Besides Scott Hahn, look up Steve Ray as well.

[@timboslice980]

I converted last year from methodism i studied calvinism for 10 years and ended up making me Catholic! My sins have all but vanished, amount of time in prayer has mulitplied, thirst for the word, etc! Thank you god for showing me the truth. All those years of protestant confusion are gone forever!

[@DavidJosephBoth]

You should try Christianity at some point. lol

[@timboslice980]

@DavidJosephBoth It's called catholicism, I know you probably never looked into it seriously. I was an anti catholic for a long time, the church I grew up in was traditional. These days the UMC is lost but in the 80s they actually cared about scripture. John Wesley created a method to reduce and eliminate sin from someone's life. It was known as the Wesley method. Methodist became a slur against his students that they proudly accepted. That's not to say I didn't study other branches of protestantism. I studied Calvin's doctrines for 10 years, read luther, Spurgeon, rc sproul, cs Lewis and listened to podcasts from Doug Wilson, James white, Michael brown, John MacArthur, Francis Chan, and about a dozen lesser known pastors like John Samson. All that study and perspective and I still found myself confused about some passages. The best pastors couldn't explain it.... for instance, I've never heard a logical reason why calvinists believe the Jewish had no choice in choosing christ. He literally weeps because they would not choose him. Eventually I figured nobody really has it figured out and we should all just do our best with interpretation. It's a crazy long story but I started investigating the catholic church to prove it wrong. Eventually I realized they were right and the true church. Honestly don't have a single Bible difficulty, all the doctrines are sound logic, all the traditions dig back into the first century. You should at least look into what we belive. The chances are 100% that you have a misunderstanding about the church. If you didn't, you'd be catholic too.

[@EliVanFleet]

@@timboslice980 My friend, there is nothing biblical about praying to Mary and other saints. Christians are called to pray to ONE God. We are not to call on the name of any other name other than Jesus. There is nothing biblical about going to a priest and confessing your sins and being "forgiven" and then giving penitence. There is one high priest, and that is Jesus, and He is the only one that can forgive sins. We have no need of an intercessor between the Father and us on earth any longer as we now have Jesus who goes directly to the Father. The amount of absolute idolatry worship in the catholic church is staggering. Have you ever seen the Vatican? Have you seen all the pagan imagery? Have you seen how the catholic church has taken pagan gods and littered the Vatican and their other "holy" churches with it's imagery? Have you seen the Pope's Audience hall that looks exactly like a snake and was built that way purposefully? I'm well aware the disagreements within the Christian church. Calvinism is certainly not something that I agree with at all. Salvation was paid in blood FOR ALL. It is us who chooses to believe or not. We accept, or reject Christ and his free gift. Calvinism is absolutely wrong in every way.

[@timboslice980]

@@EliVanFleet Check out the vatican snake hall debunked. People take pictures of it from a specific angle to make it look that way. Any other angle and the image disappears….. its a silly conspiracy theory. Also check revelation 5:8 When he had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell before the Lamb, each holding a harp and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. How do the angels and saints get the prayers to offer to god here? Do we pray prayers only to god, he then takes the prayers and gives them to the angels and saints to offer back up to god? How absurd!? Sometimes i think you guys don’t look up what Catholics believe before you criticize us. It’s obvious you have a prejudice against catholics. The thing is there are certain theological principles and full on passages in scripture that are NEVER the topic of sermons. I’ve never heard a pastor talk about Romans 2, they literally always start at 3 because no Protestants seem to realize theres a distinction between good works and works of the law. This causes a theological virus in your thinking that causes you to ignore so much scripture it’s alarming. You guys cant make sense of matthew 16, james 2, and revelation in its entirety. Vestments, incense, prayers to saints, the queen of heaven, not tolerating sinners in church, the Eucharist the whole book is so catholic that you guys just say “its a symbolic book” Why is it of Protestants dont get it, they just assume its symbolic? Where is that hermeneutical rule?

[@NX2-30]

@@EliVanFleet the Hail Mary prayer came from the Bible. “To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary. And the angel being come in, said unto her: Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women. Behold thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and shalt bring forth a son; and thou shalt call his name Jesus.” ‭‭St Luke‬ ‭1‬:‭27‬-‭28‬, ‭31‬ ‭DRC

[@auxiliarylens3876]

Thank you for the cordial conversation between you two. I was a Protestant for 18 years and then I converted to Catholicism two years ago once I learned the Bible had 73 books for over a millennium and a half before the 66 book bible was made only 500 years ago. Then I discovered the church fathers and learn that these men were taught by the apostles and when I read their stuff it was obvious these guys were Catholic in nature and after looking at the timeline of Church history and seeing that these church fathers with their Catholic sounding doctrines, carried and spread Christianity for over a millennium before the Reformation made me wonder, "maybe there's some truth to Catholicism because God seemed to be okay with them and they are basically the only Christian church around for all these centuries, so if God is okay with using them, maybe I should look more into it" and so I did and now i identify as Catholic and I see why Jesus established a leader of the church.

[@Ruth_1_16]

im sorry but he was not answering the Mary question.. Beating around the bush. I was hoping for an answer but not any catholic has a biblical answer.

[@auxiliarylens3876]

@@Ruth_1_16 He and many other have countless of debates and responses on videos regarding Mary. Praying to Mary is a layered theological doctrine because it talks about venerating Mary in a unique way because she's the mother of God, and because she's the queen so she does get a special grace for being the queen, another layer is the idea of prayer to Christians who are not alive on Earth, the next layer would be to explain what prayer actually is and isn't. There's a lot of barriers to explain before you can even get to why Catholics make a big deal about Mary. Feel free to check out other Catholic videos on KZbin that deal with that question specifically. He did answer it though. He said later on the conversation that the body of Christ is one shared with those on earth and with those in heaven so if we can communicate with those on earth we can also communicate with those in heaven because prayer just means asking. He was spending some time trying to understand the framework of our vocabulary because prayer means asking or intercession for Catholics. She thinks that dead Christians are dead and are not aware of anything in heaven (where is that in the Bible) but Catholics believe that Christians are alive with Jesus in heaven (to be away from this body is to be with the Lord) and are aware of what's going on (The angels rejoicing over someone repenting on earth is a sign of heaven being aware, we have a cloud of witnesses like in Hebrews mentions, He mentioned in the catacombs of the early church that they would ask Peter and Paul to pray for at that loved one even though Peter and Paul have been dead for a long time at that point). I encourage you to rewatch the video or look up other Catholic videos that deal specifically with that issue.

[@L07iz]

Moses went up to the mountain and it didn’t even go a week and they started to worship a cow. So the fact that the Apostles died and left disciples doesnt actually say much. Not to mention how John says he was banned from a church by a diciple. Furthermore Jesus Christ rebuked alot of chuches saying they had gone astray in Revelation. Besides how do we even know that the teachings left from the diciples of the apostles are even real? For scriptures we have many manuscripts but how reliable are these writings? On the other hand when (in the old testament) all got corrupted and no one worshipped God or remembered how to worship God, meaning there was no tradition, King Josiah read the scriptures and it was an authority for Israel and God accepted it their repentance. So.

[@MaxJones-dj5ub]

Amen!

[@MaxJones-dj5ub]

@@Ruth_1_16does the Bible say that you can’t talk to Mary? No, there you go, question answered.

[@annadaugherty9661]

So respectfully done! Loved this conversation and love Allie’s show! As a Catholic I was so so so so pumped to see Trent Horn on and thought he was great! Way to walk the talk Allie and reach across the aisle! We need to link arms in this culture today! Thank you!!!!

[@alamgodoy2813]

The Church is one, holy, catholic, and apostolic ✝ 💛🤍

[@tylerdean3489]

I'm a young Catholic that transferred to a Catholic University for my junior year of college and I love my Catholic faith. Viva Christo Rey!

[@VincentVu846]

Which one? THE Catholic University 😅

[@tylerdean3489]

@@VincentVu846 Haha no, Franciscan University of Steubenville. I'm a computer science major and they had a program.

[@VincentVu846]

@@tylerdean3489 Noice! Even better!

[@johnfontenot7518]

The Catholic Church uses pagan symbols. If you don’t believe me watch. ALL RELIGIONS COME FROM BABYLON. in the video you will see the actual pagan symbols the Catholic Church uses. I suggest you watch it and learn the truth and start believing the Bible.. why would anybody want to belong to Church or uses pagan symbols???

[@miguelinteriano125]

Viva cristo🫶🙏

[@Bornagaincatholic101]

I was also a staunch anti catholic, even though I was a “cradle catholic.” I was exposed to anti catholic rhetoric and claims my entire life via internet and evangelical Christians, to my own shame I parroted the lies and false claims for years but eventually I understood that claims need to supported with evidence, and on the pursuit for that evidence I came to the conclusion that the Catholic Church is the One true catholic and apostolic church. Glory to God im Home.

[@melodybarbour3218]

The RCC doctrine changes the gospel and that means it is not a saving gospel, it is a works gospel. I get this information I am sharing from Mike Gendron and his Proclaiming the Gospel ministry. Mike is an ex-roman catholic, as am I. God opened my eyes to the false teaching of the RCC. There are many Scriptures in the Bible that state we are saved by God’s grace alone. Jesus is the ONLY way, not one of many multiple-choice ways that so many false religions teach. John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.” The numbers Mike put after what the RCC teaches is the paragraph number where it is found in the Catechism of the Catholic Church The Bible teaches: Titus 3:5 “He saved us, not because of any righteous deeds we had done, but because of His mercy” RCC doctrine teaches that “by His death and resurrection, Jesus Christ has ‘opened’ heaven to us” [1026]. Each person attains His own salvation by grace and good works [1477]. The Bible teaches: 1 Peter 1:18-19 knowing that you were not redeemed with perishable things like sliver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your forefathers, [19] but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ. These words apply to the Lord Jesus Christ alone, not to Mary but RCC doctrine teaches that Mary is the sinless co-redeemer, “Without a single sin to restrain her, she gave herself entirely to the person and work of her son; she did so in order to serve the mystery of redemption with Him…being obedient she became the cause of salvation for herself and for the whole human race” [494] The above doctrine of the RCC is blasphemy, it is the doctrine of demons. NOWHERE in Scripture does it say that any person except the Lord Jesus is sinless. Mary knew she was a sinner and in need of a Savior. Luke 1:46-47 And Mary said: “My soul exalts the Lord, [47] And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior! The Bible teaches: Hebrews 10:14 For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified and Hebrews 7:27-28 who does not need daily, like those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the sins of the people, because this He did once for all when He offered up Himself.” Jesus said when He was hanging on the cross: John 19:28-30 After this, Jesus, knowing that all things had already been accomplished, to fulfill the Scripture, said, “I am thirsty.” [29] A jar full of sour wine was standing there; so they put a sponge full of the sour wine upon a branch of hyssop and brought it up to His mouth. [30] Therefore when Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, “It is finished!” And He bowed His head and gave up His spirit. RCC doctrine denies it is finished. Which means they are calling Jesus a liar when He Himself said IT IS FINISHED! RCC doctrine states” The sacrifice of Christ and the sacrifice of the eucharist are one single sacrifice..the same Christ who offered Himself once in a bloody manner on the altar of the cross is contained and offered in a unbloody manner” [1397]. The sacrifice is “offered in reparation for the sins of the living and the dead” [1414]. The RCC is saying that Jesus is continually being sacrificed on the alter, that is why they have Him hanging on the cross. Jesus is not on the cross, He is seated at the right hand of the Father. RCC priests actually think they have the authority to call Almighty God from His throne in heaven to sacrifice Him on their ‘altar’ and they actually believe they are turning bread and wine into the actual body of Jesus Christ. And then the priest holds up this fake Jesus for the congregation to worship. BLASPHEMY! IDOLATRY! They are worshipping a false Jesus. Who would want mankind to worship a false Jesus and believe a false gospel? Satan of course. Jesus did not die for dead people. After we die our eternity is sealed forever. If Jesus is not your Lord and Savior, your eternity will be in hell. We have nothing whatsoever to offer to God. We come to Him with a broken spirit. Psalm 51:17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart, O God, You will not despise. We cannot do any works to earn our way to heaven. Jesus said, “Repent and believe the gospel.”

[@Bornagaincatholic101]

@@melodybarbour3218 so much error it’s going to be hard to pull you out, one simply doesn’t have the time to correct your piles of errors in a comment section. I’ll pray for you.

[@melodybarbour3218]

@@Bornagaincatholic101 Please show me one thing I am in error on.

[@Bornagaincatholic101]

@@melodybarbour3218 The Catholic Church has never taught such a doctrine and, in fact, has constantly condemned the notion that men can earn or merit salvation. Catholic soteriology (salvation theology) is rooted in apostolic Tradition and Scripture and says that it is only by God’s grace-completely unmerited by works-that one is saved. The Church teaches that it’s God’s grace from beginning to end which justifies, sanctifies, and saves us. As Paul explains in Philippians 2:13, “God is the one, who, for his good purpose, works in you both to desire and to work.” Notice that Paul’s words presuppose that the faithful Christian is not just desiring to be righteous, but is actively working toward it. This is the second half of the justification equation, and Protestants either miss or ignore it.

[@melodybarbour3218]

@@Bornagaincatholic101 The RC church does teach such doctrine. I gave you God's word and RC doctrine. Why do RC go to mass? Why do RC baptize babies? Why do RC think there is a purgatory? Why do RC pray to Mary? Why is Jesus still on the cross when He said, "It is finished!"? Why do RC think that Mary remained a virgin? Why do RC believe that Mary was without sin? We are saved by God's grace through faith in Jesus. We repent of our sins and have faith in Jesus' finished work on the cross. We don't add anything to it. We repent like the tax collector when he said, "God have mercy on me, the sinner. We don't 'pray' like the Pharisee who boasts in what he has done. Matthew 7:21-23 "Not everyone who says to Me, "Lord, Lord," will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter [22] Many will say to Me on that day, "Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform may miracles?' [23] And then I will declare to them "I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTIVE LAWLESSNESS.' Notice how the people talking to Jesus are saying, "Look what we did, look what we did." They did not have faith in Jesus for their salvation, they were working their way to heaven. In addressing your last paragraph. We are made righteous by faith in Jesus Christ. God imputes Jesus' righteousness to born again believers. Without saving faith, we can do nothing. I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.

[@Catmonks7]

Trent Horn helped me come back to the Catholic Church 👍🙏🇻🇦✝️

[@calebprenger3928]

you went back to paganism

[@Catmonks7]

That’s a false accusation that has been debunked for years now. But I’m open to a open dialogue and discussion if you’d like I used to be anti-Catholic too.. Virgin, most powerful pray for us ✝️🙏🇻🇦

[@AllforOne_OneforAll1689]

What convinced you to return?

[@catholicguy1073]

@@calebprenger3928that’s an idiotic statement. The CC converted pagans by the millions and created Western Civilization in the Christian context. Protestants weren’t even around There is much all Christians owe to the CC. If the Church had fallen to the Muslims the faith would not be here. It was by Gods Grace that his Church survived.

[@GardenMinistry.]

For me it was Trent Horn, Scott Hahn, and Jimmy Akin! Love these Amazing Apologists, all converts to the faith from other denominations so their theology is very thorough, well rounded, and their evangelizing is very strong! They are great speakers and authors. I believe many of them cite The Early Church Fathers as a major reason they converted, as well as their complex questions only ever being answered through the traditions of the Catholic Church. For me it was also the Early Church Fathers, but also the deep reverence of Catholic Mass and The Real Presence in the Eucharist, which are not things you can find in other denominations.

[@revtevye]

Absolutely pleased with this sincere and open conversation. Americans often see Catholicism as an offshoot of Christianity... Strictly speaking, Protestantism is an offshoot of Catholicism. Allie Beth, I absolutely see you converting to Catholicism in the coming years via your sincere intellectual and theological curiosity.

[@Sunshinepants1977]

Why does or should Allie have to ‘convert’ to Catholicism when she is a passionate and true follower of Christ already? None of this makes sense to me. We, as Protestants, have the full Word of God to lead and guide us. We need nothing more…. It’s odd that Catholics come off as arrogant in saying we do. No offense, just talking…

[@TriciaPerry-mz7tc]

@@Sunshinepants1977they are the most arrogant and cannot see they are the biggest farce on the planet. Jesus specifically taught against them and it is a knock off form of Christ like a fake GUGGI BAG😂 THINKING they can hear from dead people.

[@jmj5388]

@@Sunshinepants1977 “To be deep in history is to cease to be Protestant."-John Henry Cardinal Newman. Her staunch Calvinist background notwithstanding, Allie’s journalistic curiosity and her willingness to engage in apologist debates/discussions will dispose her to come to the fullness of the Faith.

[@jmj5388]

@@Sunshinepants1977 It’s not that Allie Beth should “have” to convert, but that, at a certain point in her journey, she will find it necessary to convert. As she continues to debate Catholic apologists, as she takes a deep dive into the Early Church Fathers, and as she discovers the true Catholic meaning of Scripture (e.g., John 6) that she currently uses to attack the Catholic Faith, she will no longer be able to remain a Calvinist. As for all converts, it won’t be easy and it won’t always be pretty, but it is the pearl of great price that she will find she must have, at all cost. As long as Protestants remain outside of the only Church established by Christ, having abandoned Sacred Tradition, the Magisterium and most of the sacraments, and using an abbreviated and edited Bible, they do not have the fullness of the Faith. Catholics wish for our separated brethren to have all that we have; but we are each given our free will, and are called to respect those who belong to religious sects other than our own. 📿

[@Sunshinepants1977]

@@jmj5388 I respect your journey and consider Catholics to be my brothers and sisters in the Lord. And as I have deeply explored the Catholic religion recently, I have not felt God lead me in any way to become Catholic. But I will pray for you that you can weed out all the “extras” and strip down anything that may hinder or be a burden. Good day sir.

[@jorgetolentino463]

Allie was so nice and she conducted this conversation with Trent very well! Catholic here, but I believe we are united in Christ my Protestant brothers - much love to you all!

[@HannahFallton]

I have always been Protestant, but this conversation did help me understand more about Catholicism. Thank you for this conversation!

[@biblealone9201]

Why You Should Be Catholic 🤣🤣 kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqLJn2prrMyZj6M&feature=PlayList&p=9CABB60BD5DE8F8B&index=27

[@cevans6305]

Catholic convert here! Best decision that I have ever made. Looking forward to listening.

[@mitchellosmer1293]

WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD RESTED on the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD BLESSED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD SANCTIFIED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD NAMED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD DECLARED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK as HIS HOLY DAY to make that day special??? Book, chapter and verse!!!!

[@amark350]

@@mitchellosmer1293: based on my life experience, cult members typically dwell on unrelated points when posting comments - usually associated with a theme. With that said, judging from your obsession about a particular day of the week, my guess is you are from the cult known as “seventh day adventist”. I’m curious if my perception is correct?

[@mitchellosmer1293]

@@amark350 quote----With that said, judging from your obsession about a particular day of the week.... unquote The Disciples Kept the Sabbath 85 Times in the book of Acts alone!!! Jesus kept the Sabbath!!! So we can see that the disciples attended a Sabbath service 85 times in the book of Acts alone. Again, the seventh day is called “the Sabbath” in this passage. Apparently I am not the only one obsessied about a particular day of the week. ----By your comment--it is OBVIOUS you WILL NOT OBEY GOD!!! Nor Jesus!!! Do you murder to??? Steal?? Commit adultery? If not,why not???? IT IS ONE Package contract you ageed to when you decided to be a "Christian"!!!!!! If you refuse to keep the contract. you are NO different that the Isarelites at Mt Sanai, woshiping the calf!!! quote----With that said, judging from your obsession about a particular day of the week, my guess is you are from the cult known as “seventh day adventist”... unquote IT IS OBVIOUS you have NO IDEA of what a "cult" Is!!! Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more cult /kəlt/ noun #1----a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object. "the cult of St. Olaf" #2----a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister. "a network of Satan-worshiping cults" Similar: sect religious group denomination religious order church faith faith community belief persuasion affiliation movement group body faction clique #3---a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing. "a cult of personality surrounding the lead Looks to me, EVERY religion/idealogy IN THE WORLD fits at least one definition!!!! So, which ones fits the SDA???? SDA--#1------a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.-----Gof SDA #2------a relatively small group (20 million) of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister Who are you to judge me whether my religion is "strange or sinister"??? SDA #-----a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing. Misplaced towards God/Jesus???????

[@alliemille]

​@@amark350I don't know what that is... But this person seems to have not read the books of law.... Especially Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy... I believe the day of rest was originally on a Saturday but none the less it is stated right there that God assigned the people to have a Sabbath day. It's in the 10 commandments that we rest.

[@alliemille]

​@@mitchellosmer1293the 10 commandments...

[@--AC]

Oh Allie, this is the first of your discussion videos that I've watched & I'm so very grateful to hear that you'll continue dialogue with Trent Horn in the future 🙏

[@olivialouise3148]

Allie Beth, I love the gentleness of your persuasion. I found it very helpful and encouraging. Thank you.

[@josephchapman9575]

Praise God for Trent Horn. I was protestant a few years ago and then converted to the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. The only Church that Christ founded.

[@micasitagardens3639]

The Catholic Church has help me deepen my faith so so much. You should have Scott Hahn on your show! I’d love to see you guys talk.

[@melodybarbour3218]

The RCC doctrine changes the gospel and that means it is not a saving gospel, it is a works gospel. I get this information I am sharing from Mike Gendron and his Proclaiming the Gospel ministry. Mike is an ex-roman catholic, as am I. God opened my eyes to the false teaching of the RCC. There are many Scriptures in the Bible that state we are saved by God’s grace alone. Jesus is the ONLY way, not one of many multiple-choice ways that so many false religions teach. John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.” The numbers Mike put after what the RCC teaches is the paragraph number where it is found in the Catechism of the Catholic Church The Bible teaches: Titus 3:5 “He saved us, not because of any righteous deeds we had done, but because of His mercy” RCC doctrine teaches that “by His death and resurrection, Jesus Christ has ‘opened’ heaven to us” [1026]. Each person attains His own salvation by grace and good works [1477]. The Bible teaches: 1 Peter 1:18-19 knowing that you were not redeemed with perishable things like sliver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your forefathers, [19] but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ. These words apply to the Lord Jesus Christ alone, not to Mary but RCC doctrine teaches that Mary is the sinless co-redeemer, “Without a single sin to restrain her, she gave herself entirely to the person and work of her son; she did so in order to serve the mystery of redemption with Him…being obedient she became the cause of salvation for herself and for the whole human race” [494] The above doctrine of the RCC is blasphemy, it is the doctrine of demons. NOWHERE in Scripture does it say that any person except the Lord Jesus is sinless. Mary knew she was a sinner and in need of a Savior. Luke 1:46-47 And Mary said: “My soul exalts the Lord, [47] And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior! The Bible teaches: Hebrews 10:14 For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified and Hebrews 7:27-28 who does not need daily, like those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the sins of the people, because this He did once for all when He offered up Himself.” Jesus said when He was hanging on the cross: John 19:28-30 After this, Jesus, knowing that all things had already been accomplished, to fulfill the Scripture, said, “I am thirsty.” [29] A jar full of sour wine was standing there; so they put a sponge full of the sour wine upon a branch of hyssop and brought it up to His mouth. [30] Therefore when Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, “It is finished!” And He bowed His head and gave up His spirit. RCC doctrine denies it is finished. Which means they are calling Jesus a liar when He Himself said IT IS FINISHED! RCC doctrine states” The sacrifice of Christ and the sacrifice of the eucharist are one single sacrifice..the same Christ who offered Himself once in a bloody manner on the altar of the cross is contained and offered in a unbloody manner” [1397]. The sacrifice is “offered in reparation for the sins of the living and the dead” [1414]. The RCC is saying that Jesus is continually being sacrificed on the alter, that is why they have Him hanging on the cross. Jesus is not on the cross, He is seated at the right hand of the Father. RCC priests actually think they have the authority to call Almighty God from His throne in heaven to sacrifice Him on their ‘altar’ and they actually believe they are turning bread and wine into the actual body of Jesus Christ. And then the priest holds up this fake Jesus for the congregation to worship. BLASPHEMY! IDOLATRY! They are worshipping a false Jesus. Who would want mankind to worship a false Jesus and believe a false gospel? Satan of course. Jesus did not die for dead people. After we die our eternity is sealed forever. If Jesus is not your Lord and Savior, your eternity will be in hell. We have nothing whatsoever to offer to God. We come to Him with a broken spirit. Psalm 51:17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart, O God, You will not despise. We cannot do any works to earn our way to heaven. Jesus said, “Repent and believe the gospel.”

[@jtmartin1170]

@@melodybarbour3218So is it just the *Roman* Catholic Church you have a problem with, because there’s about 21 other Rites in the Catholic Church that don’t follow the Roman/Western tradition. Calling it the “RCC” just proves your ignorance on the subject.

[@melodybarbour3218]

@@jtmartin1170 Any doctrine that goes against God's word is a false doctrine and false religion. I specifically addressed Roman Catholicism because that is what this video is about and I used to be Roman Catholic and God, through His word and through a teacher, gifted by the Holy Spirit graciously taught me the truth. Only the gospel of Jesus Christ that God has said in His word can save us. False gospels cannot save. Jesus Christ was born of a virgin and lived a sinless life and gave Himself as a blood sacrifice for guilty sinners. He was crucified for our iniquities, He died in our place for the death we owed. The wages of sin is death. And He rose from the dead, granting us eternal life for all who believe. We cannot add anything else to the gospel. As soon as any religion says you have to do good works, you have to go to mass, you have to confess your sins to a priest, you have to appease God with your 'sacrifices,' that is adding to the gospel and Paul says in Galatians 1:8-9 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! [9] As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed! Paul repeated it twice so he wanted to make sure everyone understood the meaning.

[@TheRower94]

As a Catholic I felt more confident in my traditions. Thank you Trent.

[@Lrock79]

Well done. As a Protestant who discovered Trent Horn over 8 years ago, he changed my perspective on Catholicism, I have a greater respect for their teachings and their history, although I’m still a Sola Scriptura guy, and fall in line with someone like Gavin Ortlund, I absolutely respect, listen and learn a lot from Trent.

[@waseemhermiz7565]

You have your traditions and we have ours.

[@dman7668]

Likewise I'm a Catholic but enjoy Gavin Ortlund and his channel even if I disagree. He is kind and not rude or uncharitable to those he disagrees with.

[@cheryl0327]

Can I respectfully suggest Sola Scriptura is unbiblical? Paul says the Church is the pillar and foundation of truth (1 Tim 3:15) and to hold fast to written and oral traditions (2 Thess 2:15). Not having an infallible teaching on an errant Bible doesn't really make a lot of sense. Jesus founded His Church (Matt 16:18) and said the gates of hell would not prevail against it. This is where you find the truth. God bless.

[@Lrock79]

@@cheryl0327 Gavin Ortlund and Trent Horn had a very cordial and respectful debate/discussion on Sola Scriptura, I think Trent did a phenomenal job explaining his position on the three pillars of the Catholic Church, Scripture, Tradition and Magisterium, but I found Ortlund’s arguments more compelling. With that said it could be a matter of my presupposition towards Scripture, being raised Protestant. It’s a good discussion, you should look it up, it might not change your mind but at least it’ll give a good perspective on where Protestants are coming from. I think it’s important that both sides understand where we differ and why. I love my Catholic brothers and sisters, and I still have a lot to learn, that’s why Trent has been a blessing to me all these years.

[@michellebyrd4751]

Cradle Catholic here who left the faith for many years, became Protestant, and eventually was led back to the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church in 2020. My disgust and misunderstanding of Catholicism was largely fueled by influencers like Allie. My continual search for the objective truth and the grace of God to humble me allowed me to investigate both sides with genuine curiosity and an open mind. What I found is that if you go deep enough into history, you cannot continue being Protestant. Catholicism transformed my spiritual walk and relationship with Jesus in ways I cannot even begin to describe. If you know, you know. I pray for the deception to be lifted from all who are in opposition of Christ’s Church, and for their love of the Lord to override their misunderstanding.

[@kyloooooo]

Deep into history? Are you kidding me? The Catholic Church history is full of blood. Murdering Protestants for trying to print the Bible, killing those who preach against them ect. The Catholic Church did everything in their power (which was more than what kings had at times) to prevent the Bible from being accessible to all people. Only the smart higher knowledge church people should interpret scripture. Not those poor peasants who will just misunderstand it. Riiiiight.

[@peaceandlove544]

Bless you

[@ondria711]

Allie is our sister in Christ

[@liraco_mx]

Praying for her conversion as well and God bless you

[@kyloooooo]

@@liraco_mx she’s following Christ not the Catholic false church. No need to pray for her.

[@claudiataffe9763]

Trent has the funniest wife on the planet. She’s hilarious and adorable.

[@MichaelGlowacki]

She really is hilarious. She is the exception that proves the rule.

[@magnolia31611]

She’s so funny! I stumbled on a live that Trent and his wife did with Matt and Cameron Fradd and Trent’s wife had me rolling laughing the whole time😂

[@borneandayak6725]

And she is beautiful too

[@joeterp5615]

She seems so completely opposite to him! When I first saw a video of hers I was really surprised.

[@alexandraiacob8359]

Laura is that you?

[@paolabeatricelewis2689]

For anyone wondering what the rosary is… it is essentially a biblical walk through ❤ We start by reciting the Creed, which is what we believe as a whole, based on the teachings of Christ. I believe everything stated in the Creed can be referenced back to the Bible. ❤ Then we recite the Our Father, which was taught by Jesus Himself as the perfect prayer, and can be found verbatim in the Bible. ❤ Surprisingly enough, the first half of the Hail Mary is also found verbatim in the Bible, in Luke. When we say “Hail Mary full of grace, the Lord is with Thee” we are quoting the Archangel Gabriel’s greeting to the Virgin Mary at the Annunciation (which can be found in the gospel according to St. Luke). Then we say “Blessed are Thou amongst women and blessed is the Fruit of Thy womb, Jesus”, which is also a direct quote from the gospel according to St. Luke, and is St. Elizabeth’s greeting to Mary at the visitation. ❤ Then for the second half of the Hail Mary, we say, “Holy Mary (just as the Archangel Gabriel referenced Mary to be Holy), Mother of God (also just a biblical fact), pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.” So we are just stating Her title (which is biblically referenced) and asking no Her to pray for us, because She holds such an incredible title and is therefore so especially loved by God. ❤ Then we state the Glory Be, which can be referenced back to biblical teaching ❤ And then before each decade, we remember and meditate on a different part of Jesus’ life with very specific Bible references. ❤ So I hope you can look up “scriptural rosary” and really see the beauty of the rosary as a biblical walk through. ❤

[@shannonmaria22]

Becoming Catholic is the best decision I ever made. I have never found a Catholic teaching that didn’t make sense after researching it deeper. This is the True Church established by Jesus Christ. 🙏🏻❤️

[@jsheldon]

I am a Protestant convert to Catholicism. In 4 years since my confirmation, my prayer life has drastically changed and the rosary has completely transformed my life. I used to be confused about Mary too but God will show you this mystery if you ask, seek and knock. ❤

[@elizabethj6534]

Amazing!!! Welcome home ❤❤

[@donhue4546]

@@elizabethj6534 jesus was born from a miracle, although mary birthed him, hes not the mother of jesus john 3;16

[@GamingxKnight]

@@donhue4546 You just spoke heresy here by claiming that Jesus' natures are two separate parts. Mary is the mother of God because Jesus is fully God and fully human, not part God and part human. He cannot be one without the other, as in His divine nature cannot be separated from His human nature. Making claims that Mary is the mother of Jesus the human but not Jesus the Son of God is claiming that His natures are separate and leads into other heresies such as adoptionism, the heretical belief that Jesus was adopted as the Son of God at His Baptism rather than being God in human form from the moment of His 'conception'. Mary is the mother of God because Jesus is fully God and Mary gave birth to God's human life which cannot be separated from His divine nature. When we call Mary the 'Mother of God' we do not claim that she gave birth to the Trinitarian God, but that she gave birth to God who became flesh.

[@donhue4546]

@@GamingxKnight listen dhimmi jesus was a human, hes the son of man on earth, go read the bible, your as dhim as a muslima

[@donhue4546]

@@GamingxKnight show me the verse where jesus said mary was his mother???

[@ingrids3248]

Thank you for having Trent on the show. I pray at the end for UNITY of all Christians

[@AllforOne_OneforAll1689]

Unfortunately the RCC has a false gospel so there will never be unity as they are not christians.

[@avarmadillo]

Unity ONLY if it is Unity in the Truth. Any other unity is demonic.

[@DavidRodriguez-er4rq]

It can if all seek truth. Trent didn't bring up a lot of misunderstandings, truths, and scripture I think because he didn't want to argue. You can see it in his face he was trying to get to the roots of her conviction. But it was more than one. It would take a much longer conversation.

[@gracem6943]

God will answer that prayer 🙏🏻

[@AllforOne_OneforAll1689]

There can be no true unity with Catholics as they have a false gospel.

[@aeiouaeiou100]

49:27 Evangelical Protestantism is clearly just a precursor to secular materialism and she does not even realize

[@meredithbierbaum4801]

Trent Horn played a huge role in my conversion to Catholicism. Thank you for having him on. God bless you both.

[@alexandrasnellgrove9050]

Trent horns book had me turn from an anti-Catholic to a devout Catholic that loves the church

[@janineburton3977]

Which of his books? He has written several

[@Petunia_Kit]

As a protestant, and not anti-Catholic...I thoroughly appreciate how Catholics value Mary. She is valued as a godly example of a woman and a mother. That is a wonderful example of how we should value godly women and mothers in the church today. We all need more of that.

[@beckyyoung5565]

As a Protestant myself, I thoroughly appreciate how very reverent Catholics are and how they respect their church in traditions.

[@Misael-Hernandez]

Thank you! The harder part, or most important part for us is to do as she says, pray , and pray the rosary for the conversion of sinners every day!

[@zachary2890-l9k]

Pretty based of you

[@Turnip1919]

As a converted Catholic, one of the reasons I became Catholic was because they honored Mary like she was Jesus's mother. Even if she didn't answer prayers, she should be valued and respected so much.

[@rascal211]

@@Turnip1919 Satan and The Protestants dislike Mary.

[@marinamarciano8352]

As a converted from Catholic to Baptist 25 years ago, I would highly recommend to read "The Roman Catholic Controversy- Catholics and Protestants, Do the Differences Still Matter?" by James R. White.

[@brianh2477]

Raised Catholic and then left to become Presbyterian and then realized something was missing. I went back to the Catholic Church and fell in love with Jesus in the Eucharist. Nothing compares! Jesus words are true when He says, Unless you eat my flesh…you have no life in you! I invite everyone to come to Jesus and experience His healing Love and peace in the Eucharist!❤

[@amark350]

You have the advantage of seeing both sides of the fence clearly…. Glad you found your way back!

[@balafama2120]

Bread isn't changing to Jesus's flesh and wine isn't changing to blood. Science can show us today that this isn't true. Just eat communion bread attach some isotopes ,swallow it with an endoscope. When it gets to the stomach, after some hours bring it back up and check if it's flesh or a different person's blood.

[@mitchellosmer1293]

WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD RESTED on the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD BLESSED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD SANCTIFIED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD NAMED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK to make that day special??? WHERE in the Bible does it say GOD DECLARED the FIRST DAY of the WEEK as HIS HOLY DAY to make that day special??? Book, chapter and verse!!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where in the bible is said Mary can hear our prayers? Book, chapter and verse Where in the bible is said Mary went to/will go to heaven? Book, chapter and verse Where in the bible is said Mary is a mediator/imtercessor? Book, chapter and verse Where in the bible is said Mary remained a virgin? Book, chapter and verse Where in the bible is said Mary was sinless? Book, chapter and verse Where in the bible is said Mary is to be worshiped.prayed to? Book, chapter and verse I KNOW absolutely NO Catholic will reply!!! If one does, every answer will be either out of context, or twisted scripture.

[@brianh2477]

@@mitchellosmer1293 Where in the Bible does the Bible say that the Bible ALONE is your only Authority and everything has to be stated in the Bible in order to believe it? Tradition really opens up the door for why we pray to Mary. The disconnect between Protestants and Catholics is Sola Scriptura. If you can ONLY focus on the Bible as your only source for Christian teachings then your limiting your understanding of Christianity. Trent said: The Word of God is how we know that praying to Mary is beneficial. The Word of God is both Scripture and Oral Tradition which is BTW IN SCRIPTURE. Paul says that much Christian teaching is to be found in the tradition which is handed down by word of mouth (2 Tim. 2:2). He instructs us to “stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter” (2 Thess. 2:15). I always have to point out that there isn’t any scripture verses that says Bible ALONE is our only authority. Again, that’s the disconnect. If you can show me the verse then I’ll gladly start answering all your questions.

[@CamNewtonFan69]

“If one does it will either be out of context or twisted scripture”-You. This is not language of someone wanting to seek truth. You are asking these questions in the mindset of sola scriptura. First, you have to remove yourself out of this box to find the fullness of the faith. Be careful not to think in black and white (clearly In Bible/Not in Bible). The Bible was still being formulated throughout the first 300 years of the church, at the same time, the Church fathers and earliest Christians were establishing traditions and rituals. (Language Catholic Church uses): “Asking Mary for her intercession” was among these early traditions established as Trent said in the video. In the same way the Bible was put together so was the early Catholic Doctrine. Again, in the video, even though the lady put an ad right in between his best point, he says the earliest Christians were asking the apostles to pray for them and the earliest recorded prayer in history was asking the Theotokos “Mary” to pray for us. Many people hate what they think the Catholic Church is, but almost no one hates what’s the Catholic Church truly is.

[@ck337]

Trent Horn is a great apologist! Happy to be a Catholic! ❤

[@kenid4144]

Great until Islam steps into the room.

[@GRXMotorsPNW]

Too bad Horn like all other Roman Catholics worships Mary!

[@kenid4144]

@@GRXMotorsPNW The Roman Popery apologists twists words to claim they don't worship Mary, but when you ask lay, regular Catholics they will gladly say "Yes we worship and pray to Mary". The yeast of the apologists is sophistry, clever arguments and hypocrisy.

[@GRXMotorsPNW]

@@kenid4144 You're absolutely 💯% Correct.

[@mitchellosmer1293]

quote----Trent Horn is a great apologist! Happy to be a Catholic!.. unquote That is a worthless opinion!!!

[@eliezermontepeque8152]

Allie, you did an amazing job defending our faith and having an honest and graceful conversation with Trent. Trent also did very well in being kind and respectful

[@goofygrandlouis6296]

Which faith would that be ? Protestants don't even agree amongst themselves ! Just how many denominations are there, again, in the Protestant world ? 20 000 ?

[@anjpadilla003]

She put a b+ effort. She unfortunately was a little out of her depth w/Trent & unfortunately there wasn't enough time for him to unwind on Mariology. I think she should entertain having a guest like a Scott Hahn, a Tim Staples to dive into Mary because frankly, as Protestants, we really have Mary incorrect. Trent nailed it when he spoke of inscriptions and earliest findings describing the Theotokos & belief in her intercession.

[@goofygrandlouis6296]

@@anjpadilla003 Also let's talk about the practical effect on Protestant girls. A Catholic girl growing up has a perfect *role-model* of *traditional* feminity. So.. no blue hair, no tattooes, no man-bashing. I live in a culturally-Catholic country, so a true patriarchy by definition not like in the US, and I am always AMAZED at the level of disrespect towards men you guys have. Shows like the View would never air primetime elsewhere.

[@hebamarierosadohernandez752]

Prayers for you all, my brothers and sisters in Christ

[@Ziiphyr]

@@anjpadilla003She kinda emphasized the importance of the source of Theology however she didn’t give Trent to dive deeper. But I wouldn’t say she was disingenuous at all. This was still a respectful debate without slander and straw man and/or Ad Hominem.

[@TheRealKillzah]

Allie is fire🔥. She did an awesome job👍