Who is Metatron: SMT Lore

[@matthewpopow6647]

I love how sometimes biblical arguments can sound like nerds fighting about star wars. "NO, THATS NON CANNON!"

[@Tony4You]

LOL yeah whether it's media or religion, no one can agree on anything

[@kittykattzee]

You mean Star Wars arguments sounds like biblical nerds fighting over scriptures. These people have been arguing over what’s canon when the Roman Empire was still a thing lol.

[@ohamatchhams]

It's because the term Canon was originally coined by Nicene Christian councils to determine Mainstream Christianity of Catholicism or Orthodox denominations (Not just of Nicaea but it's the famous one for determining Arianism status) for acknowledgement to Western European public, including uniformity of their beliefs while also acknowledged by Roman Empire

[@nestar2009]

@@ohamatchhams you're right first time I heard the word Canon was in catholic church

[@goroakechi6126]

The only difference is that Star Wars fans don’t kill off people who don’t believe in their version of canon. Friendly reminder that Pope Innocent III killed off an entire group of Gnostic (Christian) faith-

[@anlize3422]

One could argue that Metraton and Sandalphon "metalic" looks might indicate they are "artificial" angels because of their human origin. Other than that, I can't see much reason to differentiate those two from the others so much.

[@Tony4You]

Ah that is a great theory! I can completely see that being the inspiration for them

[@sketch-eee4165]

It could also be a theme around how the angel's are so obedient to the God in smt that they are basically just automatons.

[@ecgameplayer]

Dude, that is deep...

[@souit957]

@@Tony4You I dont think its so complex. Metatron sounds like a robots name

[@aleaiactaest6503]

Or because the -tron suffix would be perfect for a robotic angel

[@thedanielstraight]

I've been fascinated by Metatron ever since I saw him in SMT3. My neighbor is a theology professor, so I went over and borrowed every book she has on Enoch and Metatron. I recommend anyone interested should play El Shaddai: Ascension of the Metatron on PS3/360. The game is great and has spectacular art direction. Thank you for making a video on Metatron, Tony!

[@Tony4You]

Wow that's great I got people to dive more into research! I hope my vid is theology professor approved lol

[@JoeyLamontagne]

Funny you mentioned El Shaddai, as that’s actually a boss in SMT 2

[@thedanielstraight]

@@JoeyLamontagne I had no idea, I just had to look them/it up. It's a cool design, I think. I'm pure neutral with chaotic tendencies/leanings, so it looks like he's my boss, haha.

[@elfiebranford9330]

Considering the actual relationship between Metatron and Sandalphon, I'm almost surprised we haven't had more MegaTen games or even just moments featuring the two together in some capacity--be it as allies or rivals. Plus, both of them share a metallic look, but have contrasting colours; Metatron is Silver, while Sandalphon is Gold. Maybe I'm just being a bit too hopeful, but I really, really, REALLY hope we can see more of these two together in the future.

[@Tony4You]

That would be awesome yeah. Something capitalizing on their similar origin and authority in heaven would be very interesting

[@cubically9366]

Know 2 years later but, SMT Vengeance seems to have fusion attacks, That means there is a chance, Sandalphon and Metatron are going to have one together.

[@gottesurteil3201]

​@@cubically9366they do!

[@cheesepuffsthings]

Metatron is one of my absolute favorite demons, but for personal reasons rather than just design or lore. You see, I played SMT Imagine back when it was managed under Aeria Games before its switch to Atlus' short-lived online games branch. I befriended this one dude who was clearly a very devout Christian. He put up with my own issues and idiosyncrasies I had at the time, so I easily switched to Law from the initial Chaos run I was doing (which I was admittedly only doing to get Surt over Raphael) to play alongside him. Aeria tended to run promotional giveaways where if you spent X-amount of money you could get awards. One of them was a giveaway of high-level demons such as Astaroth, Metatron, and the four Riders. He apparently earned this one but already had Metatron from the in-game method (which was hard as all get-out) so he managed to somehow convince management to give me his. Even starting out with only its base skills, that Metatron was like a nuclear warhead to a mid-level player like me. Good times. Apologies for rambling about things ultimately unrelated to the video. You've done great job and I learned quite a bit about one of my favorite Heralds.

[@clownworld3382]

Cool story dude. How is your Christian friend doing ?

[@cpl.targrein1793]

Hah, that's great. Are you still in touch?

[@cheesepuffsthings]

@@cpl.targrein1793 Unfortunately not. Lost track when the game switched servers to Atlus and that wiped all contact data from the game.

[@cpl.targrein1793]

@@cheesepuffsthings that sucks. Hope he is doing OK.

[@cheesepuffsthings]

@@cpl.targrein1793 I do too. He probably just decided to quit after the server switch. The game itself didn't last too much longer either. It apparently continued for some time in JP, but the English servers were dropped by Atlus like a hot potato.

[@HidinginPublic]

I said it before a month or 2 ago but seriously love your deep dives into this stuff. Researching demon/persona backgrounds- adds a lot of implications to the characters and stories they appear in/with. Glad you're more than 1k now and probably going to reach 10k not far from now. You deserve it. One of the best and only great SMT tubers imo (alongside 3 or 4 others)

[@Tony4You]

Thanks, it means a ton. Happy I could share my passion with so many people in a way that enhances their appreciation for media as well as history. I remember you got into SMT and I'm glad you enjoy the content. Never expected the vids to go anywhere, but I'm so happy people are using these as an avenue for learning. Hope you like the upcoming videos too as more in this style are to come!

[@whoeveryousay8501]

We all know you mean that boi nyarly

[@GundiMike]

Everybody knows Metatron is the leader of the decepticons.

[@ltb1345]

"OPTIMUS!"

[@rishinsenguptagoddestroyer5024]

and Satan is the leader of the Autobots

[@patrinizer346]

Sandalphon: "Make new friends, but keep the old. One is Silver... Metatron: ...And one is Gold."

[@farawaytales4396]

That line was pure GOLD(pun intended!)

[@jj_grabes]

Metatron and Sandalphon have always been the beings that fascinated me the most. I know so little about these angels, yet Metatron especially is one of the most prominent beings in SMT (or even Persona for that matter). Has Sandalphon had anywhere near this level of exposure? I would assume no based off my own exposure to the games.

[@Tony4You]

Originally in the script I didn't talk about Sandalphon because there was so little talk about him, but decided to add what I could after the first revision. He isn't shown very often at all and has equally less information on him aside from some old Kabbalistic texts briefly talking about him. You could learn as much as you could from my video, but there's always more out there! I hope you liked the video

[@PaintedHoundie]

there's honestly not a lot of info about sandalphon, besides it having the same origin as enoch (righteous man taken to heaven and turned into angel). most info about sandalphon isnt from scripture, but abrahamic cultures and books outside scripture, like a lot of angels not mentioned in bibles.

[@JahleelSingh]

Another reason he is designed this that is probably because of his name sounding pretty robotic and might allude to Megatron.

[@Tony4You]

LOL yeah I wanted to mention that, but thought it didn't fit. Everyone I talked with thought the same thing

[@PaintedHoundie]

i dont think its really inspired by megatron. atlus goes for a pretty literaly interpretation of the living machine concept that angels are described as in abrahamic religions. metatron and sandalphon also have similar designs, and it might be a reference to enoch (metatron) and elijah (sandalphon) being one of the only humans that were sent to heaven and made angels instead of experiencing death, so that can be seen as artificially created.

[@JahleelSingh]

@@PaintedHoundie yeah you might be right but it is still fun to think about.

[@popstarchamp]

Angels converge Form the Metatron Megazord!!! 🎼Go Go Herald Rangers🎼

[@TheSwordsman100]

I'm of two minds on Metatron, on one hand I love his design, using him and his lore, where he is one the few angels to directly serve the Great Will instead of just his avatar YHVH. On the other hand though he does feel IMO like a spotlight stealing character that detracts from Michael and SMT tends to put a little too much emphasis on non canonical lore over canonical ones to the determinant of the story and alignment balance. (though to be fair this complaint is mostly directed towards YHVH who gets twisted more often into a Demiurge role than the actual Demiurge demon)

[@SoFarSoGoodSoWhat14]

Damn you guys have done your research, i'm just like wow cool design

[@krimsonkatt]

Definitely agree. Too many SMT games are way to focused towards Chaos because they almost entirely paint God as some sort of Demiurge figure who wants to erase free will and make humanity slaves instead of a benevolent if lawful being that just wants to create a perfect, if stagnant world without evil or sin. Maruki from P5R was a far better repersentation of YHVH's goals and personality than SMT YHVH. I would have completely agreed with Maruki and have willingly sided with him if not for one simple fact. Unlike a perfect divine being like biblicly accurate YHVH Maruki is a flawed human who could easily be corrupted over time and with ultimate power and no one to stop him he could easily turn everyone's life into a living hell. That's when you know you've written a great antagonist. Also it makes no sense without context why YHVH can be killed in both SMT2 and SMT4A, though it makes more sense if you know the secret SMT lore that all gods, monsters, and demons in SMT, including YWVH, were all created by humanity's subconscious desires and are all mortal, making personas and demons one and the same. There is only one true deity in SMT and that's The Great Will, who is neutral for the most part and gave humanity the gift to create their own gods shaped by their beliefs. So technically your fictional waifu could be real in the Amala Multiverse if you and many others believe in her hard enough. Imagine how powerful a demon like Megumin or Zero 2 would be lol. Pyra in SMT6 when? The Persona series takes place in the same multiverse as mainline SMT in a timeline where YWVH's control over the universe was shattered and all demons were sealed away deep within humanity's subconscious, likely due to time travel. I can't wait to see that plotline played out, and who knows, it might just be in a route of SMT5. IDK haven't played it and haven't been spoiled on it yet.

[@dharamsoni8526]

Wait so is YHVH an avatar of great will/axiom or is just a God who became the "creator" of each universe by basically dethroning other gods?

[@carlostejeda4341]

@@dharamsoni8526 the second option, he fought a war over all gods in all worlds and took the title of main god "creator" for itself in almost all of them, sealing the power of all demons and exiling them to the expanse, but you know that this is just a temporary solution because they will find a way to come back and try to regain or obtain godhood.

[@carlostejeda4341]

@@dharamsoni8526 in fact, the axiom doesn't like absolute things, the great will always tries to put the worlds in a constant state of change an evolution and avoid stagnation at all costs.

[@Illstatefishing]

All right time for the heavy hitters!! Can’t wait to see other legends of the series!!

[@Tony4You]

Oh yeah I wanna do all the fan favorite demons eventually. Got a lot to choose from so we'll see who's next

[@BainesMkII]

SMT revealing that its humanoid Metatron is mass-produced could itself be an acknowledgement of the official description of Metatron. Rather than having 72 wings and hundreds of eyes and mouths in a single body, SMT Metatron can meet or exceed those values through having more bodies.

[@rock117rx2]

Ya know... It would actually be pretty awesome to have a much more eldritch robot Metatron that its able to use his humanoid bodies in a manner similar to the G-Bits from Gundam X.

[@heinokunzelmann8967]

I think the main reason why Metatron is almost always portrayed as a robot may be very simple: His name sounds like a typical robot's name due to the -tron suffix.

[@Tony4You]

Simplest explanation is probably the right one. Makes sense to me

[@heinokunzelmann8967]

@@Tony4You that being said though, the theme of angels being robotic tools of god is something they definitely picked up on. SMT IV and IV:A have some ouvert references to that. Though I'd still say that's more of an happy accident they noticed after making Metatron

[@neoonewingedren1836]

@@heinokunzelmann8967 indeed

[@CNNBlackmailSupport]

I think you nailed it. Jumbotron, Technotron, Megatron, Metatron.

[@Mr0901]

I mean... In zone of the enders they named a mineral Metatron :v

[@MinniMaster]

It's been explored by other people, but I'd like to see a video on Lucifer. Huge influence throughout the entire series and I always love learning more about the character. Either way, keep up the great work!

[@Tony4You]

It's definitely something I plan on making a video on eventually. It has been talked about before, but I think I can put my own spin on it. Thanks for enjoying the videos!

[@Lelouchxzero1]

Perhaps the significant differences of Lucifer and Satan in SMT 2 and them being the same in SMT 4

[@ronnocneerb9014]

My favorite demon in the franchise. I adore his design and always try and use him whenever I can. Really glad I got to learn more about his lore, great video!

[@Tony4You]

Thanks a lot! I was really excited to talk about him and am really happy people enjoyed it

[@IGN_OFFClAL]

You have no Idea how happy I am you started this up again. I really love these videos and always learn a lot. I hope these continue

[@Tony4You]

That means a lot, thanks! I'll be making more in this style for sure

[@MagNetherton]

I am so happy I found this channel, I absolutely adore the mythological aspects of SMT and have always wanted to learn more, it's so nice having a channel doing thorough yet digestible vids on it!

[@Tony4You]

Thanks a lot! I'm really happy people are as interested in this stuff as I am

[@FieryCoolDrink]

Would love to see a "superboss" Metatron in SMT someday with a design closer to his lore (still love his current look though!), reminds me of the arch's designs from SMT IV.

[@Tony4You]

That would be so amazing. Metatron was always a fan favorite so seeing a bit more of his "true" form would be really interesting

[@mediocreglow8091]

smt 3 got pretty close, really enjoyed tbe metatron fight there

[@Auriferose323]

Maybe under all of that metallic exterior is Metatron's "true form"

[@Penbin123]

Wasn't Metatron the final boss on DeSu Overclocked Chaos route?

[@sleepingparappa]

This would actually explain why angels aren't so fond of humans in smt.

[@UltimaPhoenix-dx3kt]

Imagine being a seraph, the highest, strongest type of angel. Then one day, your boss picks a random human from Earth, turns him into the strongest angel ever, and makes *him* your manager. The fact that humans have the potential to become greater than them is bound to make a few angels upset. "Dang humans stealing our heavenly jobs!"

[@ltb1345]

@@UltimaPhoenix-dx3kt No wonder Mastema had no love for humans, and wanted to gain more power for himself, in SJ.

[@christopherbravo1813]

@@UltimaPhoenix-dx3kt it is possible that most, if not all, of the angels that chafe at humans being given special importance are those amongst the ranks of the Fallen.

[@ProjectTony]

Angels are just straight up dicks in smt. They're assholes, but they mean well. Bunch of well meaning assholes.

[@familyfraser7905]

I always thought he was portrayed as robotic because of his name having the popular prefix and suffix for robot names.

[@DarkAdonisVyers]

All upper angels are robotic, while all lower angels are bondage slaves to symbolize servitude or subservience to Yahweh.

[@ThatBoyAqua]

While it is a shame that so many other SMT creators are starting to make the same kinds of videos as you (even going as far as to rip the thumbnail style), fortunately nobody can concisely deliver such engaging and informative lore videos like you can. Keep your head up, king 👑

[@Tony4You]

Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery brother. I'm the only Tony4You, thanks for watching

[@MrDrCthulhu]

Really cool stuff! I remember first learning about him and the Book of Enoch through the El-Shaddai game another person mentioned. It's always interesting to think about people many, many years ago getting into arguments (and probably even fist-fights) over whether a work could be considered true enough to be canon. Maybe a video on Demiurge sometime? Unless I missed him in another video of yours. Learning about him and Gnosticism and everything was quite a trip!

[@Tony4You]

LOL yeah since the dawn of time people were arguing what was canon is texts. Demiurge could be really interesting too. I'll add him to the list

[@statesminds]

Can’t get enough SMT content. Keep em coming Tony. We appreciate it. 🖤

[@stevecosmolove1045]

ty man playing SMT rn and needed my lore fix...your vids are getting better and better 👌🏼👌🏼

[@Tony4You]

Hey thanks a lot! Happy my videos are helping people enjoy the series more

[@Buggingabout]

I always thought metatron being a robot was symbolic of him always following yhvhs orders with no question or hesitation

[@Mega1UpMan]

Man this series is gold fam, can’t wait to see even more big legends

[@lucienpage2066]

I've been waiting for this!

[@Tony4You]

The long awaited SMT Lore of one of my favorite demons! It's finally out

[@darienb1127]

Ever since I first saw Metatron's name, my first thought was "Why does an angel's name sound so much like a Transformer?"

[@inanimatesum4945]

I love that you can find scraps of inspiration in just these angel and demon designs but then their dialogue and personalities show how well researched the designers are. Then we get incredible people like you who can do an in-depth look at the lore and help fans get an interest into the same lore that gets the designers excited to create such characters.

[@Tony4You]

Thanks, that means a lot. I'm so happy I can give people a deeper appreciation for the media I love. There's always more than meets the eye, and people really do love to learn about this kind of stuff

[@snailthelostcow63]

Nocturne is always my favorite for Metatron's appearance. I always loved his design ever since my first "SMT" game which is Persona 4 but wow, Nocturne did an amazing job showing how much of a big deal he is without even knowing his lore origin. His presence is really menacing especially when he shot that Fire of Sinai with his menacing laugh.

[@Tony4You]

Hail the Metatron, he who is one with God. Do it or he'll blast you with so much almighty damage you'll wish you did. Nocturne portrayed him so well

[@BigMoney398]

Persona isnt SMT

[@enkidu52]

SMTV and this channel’s coverage of angels has resparked my interest in theology and mythology, just learned more about Seraphim from book of Isaiah, great coverage of these topics

[@Tony4You]

Thanks a lot! I'm glad I can share my passion with so many people and even convince some to share it will me lol.

[@Dookie5495]

The only reason I know of Metatron before I got into SMT was because of the Kevin Smith movie "Dogma" where Alan Rickman plays Metatron. His first scene announces him as The Voice of God and he kept joking how nobody knows about him even though he is the highest order of Angels.

[@wsndnnxn7386]

Dropping that algorithm booster. Love your dives into the SMT universe.

[@Tony4You]

Thanks for the help bro

[@wsndnnxn7386]

@@Tony4You Of course! Gonna be spamming the videos I've watched with a similar comment right now!

[@FlibTheBard]

Most almighty moves suck when the player uses them so it feels good if you get metatron and start blasting fools.

[@Tony4You]

Fan favorite for a reason lol. I'm so glad SMT makes him OP

[@LumyTheQueen]

In SMT, I always thought Metatron, being the closest to God, was portrayed as robot to represent the complete suppression of free will of those who server God. Incidenlty, I also like the design change of the angels in SMTV, as their metallic heads is a nice callback to Metatron and the complete devotion that God demands from those who follow the Law alignment.

[@Tony4You]

I can see that in the context of SMT. It's definitely a sentiment those who aren't LAW enjoyers feel lol. Never thought the new design of "angel" was a call back to Metatron and the like either, but I can see the connection

[@LumyTheQueen]

@@Tony4You Haha, sorry is my Chaos alignment showing too much? Either way, I've always loved Metatron's design as well as his story dialogues within each game. He's always a character that has interesting plot-related things to say.

[@jesusjar11]

These videos really makes me interested on theology! I simply forgot that I the video was about SMT

[@Tony4You]

LOL yeah sometimes I feel like I get to into the theology aspect. Hope people still enjoy the in depth explanations though

[@goris0821]

Another banger from tony

[@brickwall7960]

another banger keep it up king

[@cyborg98]

I'm so fucking happy I found this channel.

[@Tony4You]

I'm happy you found it too lol

[@RavenNewblood84]

Great video keep it up mate

[@Tony4You]

Thanks man. These videos are fun to make

[@unluckyyyy_6352]

Sick vid as always

[@Tony4You]

Thanks king

[@usagifang]

Maybe the multiple Metatrons is their way of showing the 72 eyes and mouths.

[@0shawhat]

Would love it if you went into details with the Goetia demons! There's so many of them

[@Tony4You]

They're on the list for sure! I have covered a few in the demons of Bel video, but there are so many more I plan to cover

[@dudeshamus1451]

Grats on 10K bruh. May the algo continue blessing T4Y

[@Tony4You]

Appreciate it king, still can't believe it

[@dumbledoresnape656]

I always look forward to new uploads

[@Tony4You]

Shouts out to the day one viewers

[@igodreamer7096]

This was a cool video, Tony. The only Metatron I know are from Silent Hill (PSX/PS2) and the rare ore from Zone of the Enders series (PS2/GBA). =)

[@sosu6227]

In Hermetic Kaballah Metatron and Sandalphon are assigned to the "World of Briah/Creation" as the Archangels of Kether/Crown and Malkuth/Kingdom respectively. In normal people speech they are assigned to the process of creation from beginning to end.

[@Tony4You]

Oh wow very interesting. Kabbalah is always great to research, but a bit hard to wrap your head around

[@rock117rx2]

I was hoping you would at least mention Metatron's Devil Children design, which while I find it a bit odd. And its not one of my favorite Devil Children design. I still wanted to hear your opinion about it. I personally love all of his different E-Mail messages in Devil Survivor 1's various endings.

[@Tony4You]

Oh sorry, I usually don't talk about devil children or demi kids designs, but I should probably start at least mentioning them. For Metatron's DC design I think it's relatively interesting, more in line with a samurai almost kabuki look with angelic wings. It's pretty on brand for Devil Children, but it's interesting he has a sword despite him being a scribe. In some artistic depictions he is a warrior so I like it for the game.

[@rock117rx2]

@@Tony4You You actually managed to give more of a proper analysis of Metatron's Devil Children design than I ever could! And I am supposed to be the guy who is into Devil Children!

[@eazybuxafew]

Metatron the GOAT!! Definitely right saying it’s a fan favorite!

[@pedro2629]

I should also mention that in devil survivor overclocked he and Naoya have an argument if you fight him with Naoya, Naoya, being Cain calls him Enoch The conversation is just interesting as well as Metatron's role in Naoya's eighth day

[@Tony4You]

Oh yeah I was researching that after the video dropped and it is very interesting. Good to have it confirmed in the game that this is his story

[@cpl.targrein1793]

Man I love your channel. You make interesting videos and have soothing voice. Keep it up :)

[@Tony4You]

Thanks a lot! Happy people share my passions for this type of research

[@desklamp1945]

When that new Tony4You vid drops!

[@Jack-lo5me]

God, that design is SO fucking good…

[@dudeshamus1451]

Who is Tony4You: Algorithm Lore (bless)

[@tahaelhour690]

i think I can give ap retty solid theory as to why Metatron is robotic. Angel or not "Metatron" sounds like the name of a robot, that's it. i'm not kidding. when I was playing P5, my first intro into SMT, and got akechi's ultimate persona and read "metatron" I immediatly thought that "oh, a robot".

[@jakubkasprzak5439]

Great video as always man, wondering if you'll ever do a video about the lesser known angels in SMT like Mastema or Lailah

[@Tony4You]

Yes I absolutely plan to talk about those characters. I have a huge list of video ideas that gets longer after every upload lol

[@alexanderwalker8826]

its like a compony where god is the founder and owner and enoch/metatron is like the ceo or head management

[@alexanderwalker8826]

i bet metatron was running heaven while the lord took a buisness trip to earth as christ

[@Tony4You]

That's a surprisingly good way of putting it lol

[@anneflankermedia4262]

I love your videos!

[@covids12345]

man i love these videos!

[@Tony4You]

Me too man

[@covids12345]

@@Tony4You 😐

[@qios6438]

Tbh he looks like he could be a stand in jojo

[@Foraskennull]

Metatron, my first smt game just rolled up and fire of Sinai'd me to death. Love this guy. Only reason for law to exist is to get this guy. Also if you're taking suggestions on who's next? I suggest the green Dong

[@Tony4You]

I remember my first time getting fire of Sinaid, good times. Yeah I am taking requests into account so I'll add Mara to the list

[@Foraskennull]

@@Tony4You that you took any time to look at let alone comment on that is cool, loving the content man

[@christopherbravo1813]

interestingly enough, Metatron's boss dialogue in Devil Survivor suggests that Messiah Abel would have eventually ascended beyond even his level of power and authority. perhaps Abel might even end up replacing him as God's chief messenger to the human world or even rising to command every angel in every world. I'd love to see how the people arguing that Overlord Abel is his strongest incarnation would react to *that.*

[@jackour8167]

Overlord Abel is stronger than even Yhvh tho. Naoya stated that Abel was doing pretty good against Yhvh and if he keeps up he will win. Even Yhvh acknowledged his power. Overlord Abel beat metatron anyway

[@christopherbravo1813]

@@jackour8167 except we don't know that for certain. besides, seeing as how God defeated Bel before, and the new overlord has only recently been formed, I doubt it has any real chance of defeating God unless God lets him win. however, by serving God, Abel would eventually grow to become far stronger than his overlord counterpart could ever begin to imagine.

[@jackour8167]

@@christopherbravo1813 Yes we do actually. Abel is far stronger than his original Bel counter part so apparently he would put much more of a fight. And yes he definitely won, there is no reason to suggest otherwise

[@christopherbravo1813]

@@jackour8167 there is no way of knowing how strong either version of Abel became, but it's reasonable to assume that neither one is on God's level.

[@jackour8167]

@@christopherbravo1813 nah overlord surely got the job done. There is no reason to suggest otherwise

[@thereallycao9775]

My favorite thing about the canonicity of Christian texts is “Nah that sounds like too much magical stuff” or “Yep that’s just the right amount of magical stuff”

[@WhisperingPersona]

I don’t know why but SMT’s Metatron scares the jebus out of me. He is so terrifying! smt v capsizes on this.

[@Tony4You]

Yeah I really like his depiction in Nocturne being a large imposing mass of metal. This series is awesome

[@neoonewingedren1836]

Smt V Metatron was kinda underwhelming No change of music or dramatic appearance like Nocturne, he just descends with no music and "proof that you're worthy!"

[@berserkronald7008]

Metatron is so awesome, one of my favorite demons in SMT

[@flyingstonemon3564]

One of my favorite design choices honestly! Which says a lot since I used to mostly favor more abstract or overly complex designs for angels, but here the classic build really felt complemented by the metalic aspects, as if he was an armor of his own wearing a nation's flag banner as his only garnements!

[@Neucher]

Metatron is a mood

[@deciduous_reaper]

Lol love your Mothman Pfp

[@Neucher]

@@deciduous_reaper mothman is precious 🪳

[@Tony4You]

May you be blessed by the light

[@nicodemusedwards6931]

In terms of design, Metatron is actually my favorite demon.

[@jay7568]

When I first saw Metaton I called him Megatron

[@GioRockaway]

This video is incredible, maybe you should cover some demons too

[@Tony4You]

Thanks a lot! I plan to cover more demons in the future for sure, but I am in the Christmas spirit now lol

[@GioRockaway]

@@Tony4You That's good to hear(read)! Have a merry Christmas friend!

[@Comrade_Hee-Ho]

Metatron is definitely an interesting demon, almost all of the stuff here was unknown for me so it's really cool that I could learn something from it 😅 Nice video as usual Tony, one day I'll be able to support you in Patreon 😔

[@ltb1345]

So you could say Enoch was an early Law rep.

[@Tony4You]

IRL Law rep, one day I'll get there

[@gl2524]

Hey, Tony! Just subscribed to you after watching some of your videos, which I found fascinating, especially this one since he's come to be one of my favorites. Anyway, I've got something to ask you, if you can see this. In Arioch's SMTV entry, it says that he was the guardian angel of Enoch before he became a fallen angel. It made me think that this was a missed opportunity for some New Game+ content. Like, maybe if you had Metatron in your party when you confronted Arioch in NG+, there would be a conversation between them/alternate scene or something, especially if you were going the Law or Chaos route. Idk, I just imagined that they would discuss something about how as one fell from grace, the other one (a former human) ascended. Idk if I'm just asking for too much from the writers. What do you think?

[@Tony4You]

Hey thanks for your kind words! I agree that the demon interactions of other SMT games are some of the most interesting little things in the series, but there are some huge missed opportunities. Metatron specifically has some great interactions with other demons in the Raidou games, but for main line demons usually keep to themselves. A little goes a long way for worldbuilding lol

[@gl2524]

@@Tony4You Oh really? Who does he interact with in the Raidou games? (Actually, doesn't he only show up in the second Raidou game? Iirc, he didn't appear in the first one.) Edit: The other reason why I brought up the idea of Metatron and Arioch conversing with each other besides acknowledging their pasts is that I also imagined one or both of them lampshading how long it took for them to be in the same mainline game after several years, similar to Chimera and Hydra's conversation.

[@gl2524]

@@Tony4You Sorry if I'm bothering you or anything, but some ideas have been swirling in my head lately. (Perhaps enough to make me write a fanfic about it one day.) - New Game + conversation if you have Metatron in your party by the time you get to the Demon King's Castle - "Baseline" conversation: basically acknowledging how one became a fallen angel and the other went from human to one of God's highest angels. - Arioch holding resentment and maybe jealousy that the man that he once was a guardian angel of became an angel himself, while Metatron expresses disappointment or even animosity at how his former guardian angel decided to side with Lucifer. - If you're really creative, have some new scenes play out: - Law: Metatron says he supports the Nahobino's actions of upholding God's order. He then one-shots Arioch, making the Castle trip end on a somewhat anticlimactic note. - Chaos: Metatron resents the Nahobino for agreeing with Arioch. For an extra cruel suggestion, Metatron leaves your party out of disgust for siding with a demon like Arioch, barring you from fusing him during your Chaos playthrough. After he leaves, Arioch joins your party. - Neutral: This one I'm not as sure about, though maybe both of them acknowledge where they are in their current demon life even if they can't change the other's ways. You are granted the choice to spare Arioch, kill him, or allow him to join your party (although Metatron won't exactly like it).

[@SepticArtOfficialVids]

Well I got two angels to thank. Both badass in my eyes.

[@sonofthefakegod]

Man when I hear metraton all I can think of is the Italian KZbinr who has a channel about armor and ancient war stuff

[@forgiveness999]

great vid (as always) tony. Just curious what is the background music for the intro segment? I'm pretty sure it's from eternal punishment? But i'm not sure

[@Tony4You]

Thanks a lot! The intro song is BAOFU from Persona 2 Eternal Punishment

[@alsaiduq4363]

His Devil survivor apparence was sick. My favorite.

[@RedHairedZander]

I love the idea that god was like "I like your style little man, You're now my favorite human and angel. :)"

[@Tony4You]

You're my favorite deputy :) Come on into heaven

[@neoonewingedren1836]

"you're a cool one! I will make you my homie!"

[@ogredanhibiki]

I would be interested in a video about the Trumpeter, if possible.

[@Tony4You]

Hey that's not a bad idea, maybe all of the revelations fiends! Thanks for the suggestion

[@J.Applejuice]

TONY FOR US

[@Tony4You]

Truly Tony 4 us all!

[@MrBroken030]

1:22 "in times where god was busy..." How can you be busy if you are omnipotent and omnipresent?

[@umcaraaleatorioeggs3339]

For some reason, I always thought Metatron had 6 fingers

[@susanoo8468]

I always save these videos for before bed

[@bryceevangelista721]

Tony trying his hardest not to say that Metatron only looks like a robot because Kaneko found “-tron” in his name XDDD

[@Tony4You]

LOL that would be too easy, but a lot of people had the same idea

[@EisenSMT]

3:23 So the book of Enoch is a self insert fanfic. Nice

[@perpetuallyconfused09]

This was very interesting

[@Tony4You]

Hey thanks! Glad you liked it

[@carlosmeza4524]

I want to know more about the Hindu mitology. Shiva, Vishnu, Brahma and their wifes. The 7 Devas of the chakra and their job in there. Nice video BTW Metatron was, for me, the most important angel of all. And deep inside me told me he is the strongest, most powerful and on top of them. And he is a HUGE inspiration of a Story I am working about. And has a really close relative with my main character as well. Sincerely, one of the best angels I had ever read.

[@Tony4You]

I'll look into it! I've mainly been focusing on Abrahamic religions early as that is what I am most familiar with, but plan to branch out sometime soon

[@justaguy2182]

Metatron had been interesting to me when I really got into the series. I’ve always thought he was original to SMT at first.

[@Tony4You]

Yeah he was requested a lot and everyone I talked to didn't really seem to know anything about him. Happy I could make a video like this, perfect for the channel

[@stephenbewley220]

Dube please make video so all demons! this is awesome!

[@kessenkimball8441]

"Non canonical to mainstream Christianity" we talking out here like the book of Enoch was a dragonball spinoff game

[@Tony4You]

LOL yeah The book of Enoch was a funny thing to research, prefacing everything as non canon in certain denominations.

[@GenkiGirl12]

I will always asocciate Metatron with Alan Rickman drinking tequila and spitting it out

[@Tony4You]

Dogma may or may not have been a main reason I love this character LOL

[@ArmageddonAngel]

The Metatron also used to disguise themselves as Alan Rickman from time to time.

[@franksturino9129]

Of all these years as a Christian I've never heard of these angels. Keep up the videos!

[@ActionGamerAaron]

2:40 "So who can say of it's validity for certain." I can tell you as much that they made up all this shit.

[@drackestalentorgen166]

My favourite design in the series, my second favourite Demon after Loki

[@seasidegon]

I'm more cultured now as a SMT player and as a human being, thanks

[@Tony4You]

Happy to help my fellow SMT enjoyer. Pretty soon we'll all be ascended

[@denkerbosu3551]

Also, the design could be due to how mechanical his name sounds. I keep hearing how it sounds like a Transformer name.

[@tallflipkick]

Just finished fighting him in DeSu. This came out just in time lol

[@Tony4You]

No such thing as coincidence lol

[@jackour8167]

Interestingly enough, metatron is actually Yhvh's strongest avatar, aspect and angel. With the exception of smt 4 apocalypse Satan alone