Who is She? Doctor Who S1 EP7 The Legend of Ruby Sunday Reaction!!!

Who is she? just one of the questions we've been asking will finally be told the answers to in this first of the two-part season finale of Doctor Who, The Legend of Ruby Sunday!!!

[@serina3872]

The tardis has been making this sound since the beginning of the 2nd 60th special

[@sketch_0193]

It has indeed. What I'm wondering is how. That Tardis is the original. The 15th Doctor's Tardis is an exact copy he made with the Hammer. So is it effecting both? or just the newer one? If not both then why did the original one make the sound before the copy-Tardis. Is the presence surrounding one also surrounding the other? My head lol

[@TheFallofTheEleventh]

⁠@@sketch_0193RTD confirmed that Ncuti’s Tardis is the original and David’s is the copy. Thats how it’s still affecting it

[@sketch_0193]

@@TheFallofTheEleventh When/where did Russell say that? 😮

[@TheFallofTheEleventh]

@@sketch_0193 when the Giggle was released Davies said: "I think, if I’m any judge of fandom, people will worry that that is a new TARDIS and not the old TARDIS, Ncuti’s TARDIS, and I’m here to say, in a story to come there is proof that it’s still the old TARDIS." If you Google it you can find the quote in an article on Radio Times

[@productjoe4069]

@@sketch_0193in a tweet or interview IIRC. He said that something that happened this season would confirm that 15’s TARDIS is the original. I’m guessing this is probably what he meant by that.

[@csk7769]

I was genuinely shocked people were THAT unwilling to believe Susan Triad. Yeah, it was a lot, it's definitely not unreasonable to doubt it, but it wasn't just the name, and even after this episode we still haven't confirmed or deconfirmed anything about what her deal really is. And there is absolutely no way with where we're at now that Susan Foreman is a complete red herring. We even had Mrs Flood reference Doc's explanation of regeneration in practically the next scene, and Kate's chrysalis theory was also clearly invoking the idea of a Chameleon Arch, which could still be the case. One way or the other, we don't know yet! and that's got my interest. Will it end up being something for next season, instead of next episode? perhaps, but no chance it means nothing at all

[@dylankearney4000]

Suhtehk is a classic villain, however they are likely also the Beast, Satan etc, from the Tennant 2 parter. Also what a fucking episode and reveal, chills

[@TheTideKing004]

I doubt sutekh the beast. The beast told us that "the deciples of the light rose up against me and chained me in the pit for all eternity" and went on to say it was "before time". The 4th doctor defeated sutekh himself and cast him I to the far future, if they were the same being the beast wouldn't have said what he did nor would he have implied that it happened before time and would have simply said it was the doctor. All the signs point to sutekh and the beast being completely different beings.

[@dylankearney4000]

@@TheTideKing004 except for the the fact they have the same actor and the same style of chanting. And both said they were once called Set. Perhaps this God can divide themselves or time travel is involved. The timeline has changed many times since the Impossible planet.

[@dylankearney4000]

@@TheTideKing004 they may not be the same thing, but its clearly intended for you to come to that conclusion iith what we have been given

[@TheTideKing004]

​@dylankearney4000 the beast is something from before N-space was created while sutekh is an osiran from the planet osiris. They are not the same unfortunately. The beast is the original idea of the devil while sutekh is the head of the pantheon of discord. It would be cool if they where the same but everything we know suggests otherwise.

[@crowcoregames1785]

@@TheTideKing004 or maybe the alien who was taking sutekhs name was just its puppet, and its real form is the jackle we see, the beast is just a difrent part of the being it lost

[@user-yt2vl1kb4g]

People keep saying how has she (Ruby) travelled with the doctor and not know about regeneration, forgetting nine didn't tell Rose until he was about to regenerate

[@vagonkhan7278]

PLEASE, watch the classic Doctor Who episode The Pyramids of Mars. It will explain Sutekh.

[@paulshorney3465]

I was thinking it might be him. I also think mrs flood is either the Rani or the meddling monk (both renegade time lords!) just a theory! Also the old girl in the bed at ruby's hone isnt who she seems either! 🤔🤔

[@dylankearney4000]

Doctor who actually doesn't have the rights for the Rani to appear on screen sadly. The way rights used to work is each individual part of a production had the rights for their contribution. This is why the Terry Nation estate owns the Daleks for example. Sadly, they cannot use the Rani.

[@TheCagedCorvid]

I'm almost sure Mrs Flood is a timelord of some sort. When the doctor talks about regeneration, he says they can use it to hide away, and she also says she's hiding herself away... it's a small thing, but it jumped out to me... mix that with the other stuff we know about her and it tracks... I might be wrong but I'm hopeful.

[@tdm281995]

The old girl in the bed? Do you mean Rubys Nan cherry? What makes you think she isn’t who she says she is?

[@TheCagedCorvid]

@@tdm281995 I'd actually love to see Cherry perpetrate some kind of badassery, I don't think she's some kind of entity or anything like that, but even if she knocks out Mrs Flood with a tea tray and comes out with something witty I'll be so happy lmao 🤣

[@ChrissyJack]

@@dylankearney4000 Fox owned the rights to Rani and who now owns Fox? Disney so I believe they can now use her.

[@SKIP-yj3xp]

Since the Doctor's history is apparently changed (now he says he's never had children, when in the past he's said he had been a father before). Apparently the Five Doctors never happened, since Susan was in that episode and he just said he hasn't seen her. How do we know the 13th Doctor isn't Ruby's mother?

[@ThomasPeters2002]

He didn’t say he never had children, as in The Devil’s Chord he said “I did have, I will have (children) and in Boom he talked about being a dad, so in this episode he’s specifically talking about Susan’s mother or father, he hasn’t had that child yet.

[@stephaniepage4334]

My theory for future tv series what if ruby might be mother of Susan?also could rose be mother of ruby?

[@ZDProds-c8p]

So, where's 14 then? Yeah, he's 'retired' and whatever else and knows 15 is out there, but you're telling me he just willingly sits by when this massive threat is on Earth? Especially with it being TARDIS centric. come on. No way he just leaves 15 to sort everything himself

[@xedalpha1]

Probably not on the planet at the time. Has his own TARDIS. Plus getting Tate and Tennant back again again would be very difficult

[@RonanCormack]

​@@xedalpha1yeah thats true but lets be honest they'll be back at one point. 100%

[@joshuajoshua2732]

I hope not.

[@TheCagedCorvid]

I think they might be back at least for cameos in future, but I think now is too soon... I'm going to headcanon that they're elsewhere or elsewhen, hopefully relaxing lol Also, Donna does have a habit of missing things like this 😂

[@SKIP-yj3xp]

How does Rose know the 15th Doctor? If she had met him, Ruby would have been there and found out about the 14th Doctor and regeneration.

[@user-gj9uq3kb7y]

the Doctor met ruby in the church on Ruby road

[@user-gj9uq3kb7y]

Rose knows both Doctor's did you forget the 60th specials

[@SKIP-yj3xp]

@@user-gj9uq3kb7y Rose was never in a scene with the 15th Doctor.

[@user-gj9uq3kb7y]

@@SKIP-yj3xp Rose noble was but it was of screen

[@SKIP-yj3xp]

@@user-gj9uq3kb7y Rose Noble wasn't in "The Giggle" until the final scene. The whole story took place in UNIT HQ, and the 15th Doctor took off in the TARDIS from UNIT, so there was no opportunity for him to meet Rose Noble.