Who Is The Best Leader In Fiction?🤔

[@Kaito57]

I mean... the fact that he's also a 28 feet tall robot with weapons adjusted to his size is also helping a lot lol

[@MrGr_io]

In that case Kratos solos

[@Daniel-si7zp]

@@MrGr_io??? Nobody is talking about fighting, bro

[@jeremyrdlamaxima7052]

@@Daniel-si7zpI mean that’s what the top comment seems to suggest so yeah in that case Katros is the better choice.

[@Daniel-si7zp]

@@jeremyrdlamaxima7052 Kratos was a very selfish and brutal person, he woupd sacrifice his people for Sparta, and then during Ragnarok, which he changed to be a better person (obviously) he still needed tons of outside help to defeat Odin and Thor, plus he was going to war with Odin with vengeance in his heart until he decided not to. Optimus in the other hand fought Megatron for millions of years, always putting the lives of his allies first, inspiring them to keep fighting for the life they deserve, one without war and death, but peace and hope. During the war he defeated many enemies even greater than people like Zeus and Odin such as Unicron, and his time on Earth only gave him more reason to fight for the planet, he had no reason to fight for Earth yet he did, is the very reason he was given The Matrix of Leadership by Primus himself, The Transformer Supreme God, the anti thesis to Unicron, of all beings that Primus could’ve given the Matrix, he gave it to Orion Pax. Even when he lost so much due to the war, he didn’t lose himself and only fought harder to maintain the dreams of his fallen comrades, of his brothers and sisters in arms, something Kratos wasn’t able to do, the guy literally knelt and begged to Ares to help him win the war, after many of the soldiers died, Optimus would never go that low

[@wyldcard17g]

People don't realize how broken Optimus is; He has led 1000 battle fronts simultaneously back in cybertron; No human or Ape can compete with him.

[@blackpurple9163]

Kratos is neither

[@mr.tomatohead3709]

​@@blackpurple9163kratos is a terrible leader, he barely managed to beat the Asgardians despite having way more advantages and being an ultimate god killer

[@zorro8027]

@@mr.tomatohead3709 I have to agree; Kratos was too busy fighting his past he wasn’t a good leader at all throughout the game. He pretty much solo’d it up until Ragnarok😂.

[@blackpurple9163]

@@mr.tomatohead3709 fair enough, I overlooked that this is about leadership and but kicking ass

[@WatcherCCG]

Optimus Prime: the nicest guy in any room, but also one of the deadliest.

[@Jaimefox238]

Exactly

[@DangerA2750B]

Fr 🔥

[@dametreuspppp8734]

Kratos all day

[@Jaimefox238]

@@dametreuspppp8734 you're dead before even starting... Kratos is a warrior... Not a leader...

[@dametreuspppp8734]

@Jaimefox238 yup ill be wayyyyyyy over here while he clear the field 😂😂😂

[@rprfl4mezyt964]

Optimus prime literally has leadership in his body

[@trehubb6144]

Bruh Erwin had folks willingly commit suicide for him😅. He good because it couldn't have been me to pull it off😂

[@insight1239]

Facts

[@Gojirawars03]

Caesar is seriously slept on. He’s not the strongest by any means, but there’s a reason his followers considered him a practically messianic figure.

[@somerandomguy29]

Fr bros literally ape moses

[@shyguy9833]

Optimus prime easily

[@davidvanaa1191]

Optimus and Aragorn litreally are the definition of Leadership

[@balocke2063]

I would feel useless in a war with Optimus or kratos. I mean they’re one man armies themselves tf am I gonna do?

[@LamelScott]

*SURVIVE* That's what the fuck you gon do! ... well you might die with pre 2018 kratos.

[@OPTIMUMELITE]

*Optimus Prime all day* man's speeches are TOP TIER!!!

[@Buckethead.325]

Optimus Prime is literally the Embodiment of All things Good

[@themerkstandard4831]

Erwin would make a losing battle feel like a win and a strategic battle feel like your enemies are roaches. Don’t underestimate the power of words. Ima follow Erwin. Optimus can be our artillery

[@Jaimefox238]

Naa man.... Uncertainty vs reality.... I'ma pick reality bra.. With Erwin, you don't know if you gonna die... Optimus... Bro even watches were he steps on the battlefield so to make sure he doesn't step on you... That's a lot coming from a giant ALIEN ROBOT.... The two things Humanity treds carefully with the most.... Let's not also forget Megatron was able to back stab him right when he was checking on Sam... I mean, come on man....

[@edenmatthews6183]

Erwin is literally based of Erwin Rommel from ww2 I am siding with him

[@doctorcorvus1319]

Leader who will make sure everyone comes our alive: OP and the Ape King. Leader who I know will survive and lead us through an Apocalypse while also getting his hands dirty: Rick Grimes

[@the_darkest_man_alive]

leader who will kill you and everyone but him: erwin smith😂

[@PharrellSalford]

Nobody's topping Robo jesus when it comes to leadership

[@damaruslove8688]

Aragon and captain America are the must

[@KhalidAssefa]

no your wrong its optimus pime

[@trillionaire8886]

@@KhalidAssefa no you’re wrong. Optimus is trash AI. Fck him.

[@levivahn469]

I'm not sure about Kratos as a leader, but if he can't handle the problem himself, there's nothing any of them can do to help me.

[@captain_sourav_10]

Captain America, Optimus Prime & Erwin Smith Probably my favourite leaders 🔥

[@BigNerd111]

Agreed. Awesome as Captain America is, if it's MCU Cap, good chance you're gonna get left behind for Bucky sad enough as it is.

[@TMerr79]

Steve didn't make that call Sam did cause they needed to stop Zemo from gaining control of the other Winter Soldiers

[@VictorNieves-o3o]

Cap never did anything like that.

[@Turtle-guy-t]

Octimusprime coudl literally give you a speech when your on your death bed and you woudl immediately get better

[@Soopology]

I’m sorry, I gotta move Steve Rogers into the Must Have category.

[@uvl.g5611]

It depends on what you want in you're leader, a moral inspiring leader who values his men's lives and won't stray from the path of the honorable moral campus, or a brilliant savage technician who will cunningly use anything and anyone to archive victory at all cost regardless of the lives he sacrifice or the deviances of the horror he inflicts.

[@tarokitano4021]

Whoever gives the best Speech before a battle of a lifetime

[@lonniecfireillbemayorsomeday]

Erwin he may not survive but he damn sure humanity will.

[@TheHirohikoAraki]

The real debate is Optimus Prime vs Adult Simon the Digger (Gurren Lagann) on their *motivational speeches* 🥶

[@MutakaOnline]

Fr😅

[@MrEffectfilms]

I'm split between Kratos, Aragorn, and Steve Rogers. They're all excellent team leaders as well as individual fighters in their own right and they know how to inspire others to follow them too. Aragorn led the battle at Gondor against Sauron himself, Kratos led the fight against Asgard during Ragnarok, and Steve led the charge against Thanos and his men in Endgame. Any one of them would be more than qualified for the position. But if I had to pick one I think I'd go with Kratos since he can probably fight an entire war by himself if he needs to.

[@jamalellahi500]

Cesar accomplished something incredibly rare in any fictional universe, taking his entire species and pathing the way for dominion over earth and victory over humanity.

[@jeremyrdlamaxima7052]

I mean it’s kinda easy when most of humanity is dead because of a virus.

[@DravenCollins-s4x]

OP was my pick too

[@Guerrilla_shinobi]

Agreed, Optimus prime and Caesar.

[@spencer4hire]

Jon Snow is criminally underrated

[@EphraimAyeni]

Nah I gotta go with Erwin bro literally told his men to go and die and they did it

[@NotToBeMessedWith]

Optimus Prime, Commander Erwin and Steve Rogers. Anyone of these is good enough to motivate the troops to fight to death.

[@that_1_guy975]

Nah, you ain’t tellin’ me that King Ellesar isn’t must-have.

[@BrunoRubangaKene]

Erwin all day.. we know we will die, but we will go into that fight feeling like immortals

[@MoDeLi370]

Rick has the perfect amount of perfect amount of fuck around and find out, opti mus edit at the end goes craaaaaazy but Rick is and will always be the OG GOAT

[@afro_souledits2382]

Optimus Prime and Erwin would make a army of peasants take over 6 countries

[@Pro-Diletante]

Erwin and Optimus.

[@Warfather17]

Optimus Prime hands down him why? BEACUASE HE’S OPTIMUS PRIME!

[@Niinjitu]

Its easy to be brave when you are 15ft tall robot with space weapons but when you are just a man(Aeragon), that can fight even when your back is against the wall, thats the guy I'd like to follow in battle

[@ootw2004]

1st place optimus prime 2nd Caesar 3rd strider

[@infernoblaze1359]

I agree with both Optimus and Caesar.

[@jonnystorm3127]

Its between Ragnar and Aragorn for me simply because their both natural leaders who didnt want to be leaders which made them the perfect leaders. Ill never forget Ragnars line" "Power is only there for those who are willing to lower themselves to pick it up. Aragorn was so down for his comrades, once crowned king he decreed no man would step foot in the Shire, including himself! He waited outside the Shire for Merry and Pip to come get him. Not only that, once they died Merry and Pip were buried beside Aragorn in the Royal tomb of Gondor. Either of these two Im riding for!

[@Achieme]

Optimus prime just needs to say a few words and and that'll get my black ass up to do whatever he ask, i will fight a loosing war in his name. Plus bro is millions of years old fight a million year war. He is also OP AF in multiple continuities

[@Rasyaramadilanpranata]

Doflamingo,he speech was true

[@dominicbroome9381]

Caesar for sure is who I will follow. “Apes together Strong”

[@jorgefelippebalcazar-l4q]

till all are one

[@prodigy9762]

You’re goated bro I’m about to binge all your videos

[@g1_prime956]

I found you yesterday and i love your content. Just wanted to say this

[@crushinu502]

Optimus gotta be the best leader cuz he slid on the humans when they killed Ratchet

[@Felz97]

Ragnar lothbrok bro can lead in so many ways im rolling with him

[@talkingben3332]

Captain America and Optimus Prime for going into war Optimus Prime and Caesar for a speech

[@thomastheyomas]

optimus prime could make me run into hell with a stick

[@lordcypher5889]

Personally, I'd choose to be led by Aragorn, son of Arathorn, King Elessar of Gondor and Arnor.

[@RomaroBrandon]

If you're going to pick Optimus Prime you're mostly likely fighting robotic cars and until robots actually take over the world, I'm picking MCU Captain America because he hasn't lost a battle except Infinity War and the aftermath was undone.

[@diegojose.4]

I mean Captain America didn't put Bucky above everyone's life, in Winter Soldier he defeated Bucky so millions of people won't die, and just when he completed his mission he tried to talk with him but it didn't went well, so he put Bucky's life above himself, not others. In Civil War he took his decision because of what he has gone thru and tried to explain to the rest of the team why the accords weren't the right path, but Tony's guilt and how he blamed the others of what he did, and when Bucky enter to the scene, he only wanted to prevent his death because he was framed, he wanted to do things without deaths involved, so he agreed that Bucky needed to be processed and evaluated psicologically, but everything went down when Wanda was involved being locked in the compound, also being called a weapon of mass destruction, then Bucky got controlled by Zemo and attacked Steve and Sam by surprise, so after Cap stopped the helicopter and it went down with him and the Winter Soldier he saved Bucky and waited till he woke up to interrogate him, and after Bucky told him about the other supersoldiers and how he got the serum by killing Howard Stark and his wife, he wanted to tell Tony, but Sam advertised him about the accords so he decided to reunite the team that will stop Zemo or in the worse case, stop the supersoldiers, but then Tony appeared and Steve tried to explain him Zemo's plan but he ignored him, so it started the fight between the teams, and only Steve and Bucky escaped to stop Zemo, and then Tony arrived as a friend and support in case of battle, but things went wrong as we know, Steve tried to stop Tony with words but he was blinded by rage so he needed to fight again preventing Bucky's death, and this because what he did was all Hydra's fault, they brainwashed and mindcontrolled him to follow orders, so blaming Bucky of what the Winter Soldier did is like blaming the gun and not the shooter. And yeah, Steve and Bucky fought Ironman and a lot of people say that it was unfair because Tony needed to get done his revenge and got jumped by those 2, but that isn't true, because Tony was blinded, and he didn't got jumped by because he was the one who started the fight, also Ironman's suit is very powerfull, dude is an all terrain arsenal, the fact that Steve and Bucky survived was impressive, but Steve never put Bucky's life above Tony, because he didn't kill Tony, he just wanted to stop him and the best way to do so was desactivating his armor.

[@mr.michaels116]

Opps'll-Miss-Prime Is THEE Only Answer!!!💯

[@primalxis1]

Make Steven hawking stand up💀

[@easymoneyrad]

That edit cold

[@JoeyTooSmooth]

Optimus, cap, and Rick was my top 3

[@jacobolivard5366]

😂 gotta give Optimus the lead and Kratos the sword ⚔️ But everybody know kratos wanna roll solo

[@reyblanco_]

Im gonna let you not picking Captain America pass cuause its thr MCU version...but Comic Cap absolutely eclipses everyone here EASILY as far as leadership goes

[@derekkingcade7948]

Optimus Prime by a mile

[@alvincarter7203]

Optimus prime

[@masonmcfadden4886]

Optimus prime Obviously

[@geicothirtynine]

... Optimus Prime is a giant* autonomous alien robot that can (literally) drive you to work, and is *innately* virtuous so I prefer my odds with him. Kratos is a demi god (who can slay the entire army by himself..) and in (real* *life* ) greek lore is the (literal) personification* of *strength* , but depending on which version of him we are referring to (young or old/ video game* or *greek mythology* ), would have **zero** issue sacrificing as many men as possible (if you get in his way..) to achieve his goal...

[@thezerowulf2046]

Erwin had me patriotic for a country that doesnt exist. Had people turning facist based on his memory.

[@TheBlackKakashi]

Optimus Rick Cap Ceasar The dude from LOTR Erwin Kratos Jon The guy from Vikings

[@EMANYUERUYOKOSOUCHIHA]

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[@StephenVerlí]

Since I’ve read the lord of the rings books and many, many books before that. I would say Aragorn is my favorite because he was the ONLY man in the entire middle earth to resist the one ring. And the only one who put him self on the line for hobbits and endangered people. Not to mention he was also the only man not to covet the throne. and he led a small army to fight the entirety of Mordor. And managed to buy enough time for the ring to be destroyed. He was willing to die in order for a hobbit to destroy the ring. But my second choice would probably be Caesar because he was the only ape to love both humans and apes equally and treat both with respect. He also led many successful missions with VERY inexperienced apes. And died for them. the last movie kinda ruined all of that but ok.

[@deathkage779]

Eventhough Rick Grimes is my GOAT Optimus Prime easily takes the role of best Leader.

[@philly48017]

Optimus prime hands down🤣🤣

[@witherverse1351]

Easily optimus prime Pretty much no one else on here comes close

[@Tiredsleepy-u3h]

Erwin would literally lead me to death if he had to 💀

[@LonelyRager]

That boy ragnar is a problem

[@xeox4280]

Kratos is the best one obviously. He would just do most of the work himself.

[@simpletora7313]

Kratos easily. He fights gods and has had more time alive to learn and grow. Plus he’s a god of war, I want that on my side in a war

[@ziich1]

If Irwin or Rick is your leader just know you are going to die

[@theinsurance2450]

That choice between you and Bucky is a very unfair one. That was very specific situation. Plus Cap didn't choice his team over Bucky. That war was over stopping very dangerous Super soldiers to be Unleash. As for battle between Tony and Bucky. It is ethically wrong to find someone guilty for something they couldn't control. So morality Cap was right to defend Bucky there. I mean Optimus Prime was mind control but he gets a pass.

[@IdentityX69420]

optimus and kratos would SOLO

[@AtomicOwl]

Optimus prime, aragorn, rick grimes and kratos

[@dxbledeuce3473]

Optimus no question Commander Erwin is my second pick, that speech gives me goosebumps every time🤷🏾‍♂️

[@easymoneyrad]

I was finna be surprised if he chose anybody but prime as for the comics, show and movies prime is the greatest leader in fiction

[@alanrichardson6561]

*If you don't know King Ragnar isn't a fictional character. So by you including him in this conversation IDK if that should be taken as a insult or compliment.*

[@LION-q7g1c]

Thank you and I still put him over these characters

[@daimonhellstorm1763]

TILL ALL ARE ONE ❤

[@Fkyopronowns]

Optimus always get his butt kicked. Aragorn. A humble, honorable, brave and a warrior. Aragorn is the man.

[@srym8400]

Optimus Prime ✊

[@Spideer-t9i]

Bro I picked captain America and op idk about ceaser

[@The_Trident_Master]

Aragorn. Just Aragorn

[@TheDeadman419]

Can’t disagree with your assessment of Cap more. If I want to WIN the fight I need him. He’s got a super soldier brain, and the serum canonically does help him think much faster than regular people. Aside from his experience fighting regular armies, robot armies, alien armies, and super alien armies, little would surprise him. He processed Groot and just said hi I’m Steve, then went back to fighting. He can adapt his strategies faster than a regular general. Only Optimus’ computer brain would outdo him. Give me Cap, your reasons are wack

[@willstoudemire-pulliam9084]

Naahh...gimme Cap. All day. He can do it. He said so himself.

[@malusasinae229]

Captain America, no contest🤷🏿‍♂️

[@masterk115]

There is one clear choice. Erwin he gave the best speech on this list and road head first to his death because it was necessary. He will always make the hard choice. We can’t say you gone die for him but not Optimus when Optimus lost his entire planet and was still losing when he came to earth.

[@harivenkatm-e1861]

I disagree For the most part it was the fault of the previous prime. Which varies according to the lore. By the time Optimus became the leader the war was over. It was a miracle or the leadership of optimus that the Autobots even survived. Plus the Decepticons had the numbers and were way more destructive, smarter and powerful than the Titans or even a Titan shifter. If it weren't for Optimus the Autobots would have been destroyed.

[@masterk115]

@@harivenkatm-e1861 don’t get me wrong I’m not saying Optimus is bad choice I’m saying just because your opponent is overwhelmingly stronger it’s not the leaders fault so you’d have to assume the threat level is the same whoever you are picking. If Optimus was in Erwin’s position he would have have told everyone to run and sacrificed himself to save everyone…. AOT is a far more realistic world where that “Hero” call gets you killed for nothing. Erwin will inspire you to March to your actual death.

[@harivenkatm-e1861]

@@masterk115 I mean, the same could be said for Prime, the one from the comic/lore accurate and G1 Optimus not the one from bayverse .He has the wisdom of the matrix, which grants the collective knowledge and experience of the past primes. So he basically has trillions of years of experience by default .Plus he has faced threats like Unicron an ancient elder god of evil and defeated him with barely any casualties due to his leadership. Erwin is a great leader, better than bayverse prime. But the canon/ G1 prime is technically a god.

[@masterk115]

@@harivenkatm-e1861 very fair I did base it on Bayprime so you definitely have a point there

[@harivenkatm-e1861]

@@masterk115 Bay prime was more of fighter than a leader. I could honestly see why people think he is a bad leader. Anyways have a good day.

[@withertempestprime8718]

Optimus prime all the way

[@playafordacheaters]

Everything that you thought had meaning: every hope, dream, or moment of happiness. None of it matters as you lie bleeding out on the battlefield. None of it changes what a speeding rock does to a body, we all die. But does that mean our lives are meaningless? Does that mean that there was no point in our being born? Would you say that of our slain comrades? What about their lives? Were they meaningless?... They were not! Their memory serves as an example to us all! The courageous fallen! The anguished fallen! Their lives have meaning because we the living refuse to forget them! And as we ride to certain death, we trust our successors to do the same for us! Because my soldiers do not buckle or yield when faced with the cruelty of this world! My soldiers push forward! My soldiers scream out! My soldiers RAAAAAGE!

[@Jaimefox238]

Sorry... I had to watch... Curiosity.😂😂😂 Ha... I knew it would be Prime.... He's mostly underrated when it comes to heroes but man... Don't ever mess with him...

[@hushsilence8932]

Aragorn all day 😂

[@ggguNeck]

In defense of Cap, he is a goated leader, The Avengers were just a$$holes 😂

[@SanjinoVinsmoke]

Aragorn ALWAYS!!!

[@edwardlewis4724]

I would follow post Valhalla Kratos for sure.

[@jeremyrdlamaxima7052]

Caesar is cool and all, but I would definitely not put him in Top 2 or 3. My picks would be Cap, Jon Snow or Optimus prime, shit even Erwin tbh. The amount of leadership you need to have to send people to their deaths and they know it is just above Caesar to me. Cap lead the whole avengers through multiple battles, specially in Infinity war and Endgame. And he was not even one of the strongest in the group. There’s literal gods on his team and he’s the leader. And Jon snow is just as compassionate as Optimus Prime and Caesar and he is willing to die for his people too.

[@LION-q7g1c]

Give me Ragnar Lothbrok