Who is the Man with the Egg in Deltarune

[@HalfBreadChaos]

FAQ! Mainly to address mistakes! Q: Wait at 8:12... I thought entering that room resets the flag? A: Aw crap your right! That's my bad! When you try to go to the Sound-Test-Room, or any of the rooms with Gaster Followers, the game rolls a dice to see if you actually go there/get the event, and if you don't, it deletes the FUN value, so you have to turn off the game, change it back, and reboot before you can try again. The footage here is a tad deceitful then, since it implies you can just keep walking in and out of the room over and over rapidly like that, which is not correct at all! I may need to make a video explain why this happened but uh, basically I was editing very late at night, and messed up. Sorry about that! Q: Wow there's a lot of audio/visual bugs here, what happened? A: Mainly a combination of me adding/removing/tweaking a bunch of audio last minute to adjust for info gained during the sweepstakes, and me... trying new editing techniques to try to keep shotcut from wrecking the graphical quality of the sprites. The algorithm does not favor the slow and careful editor, so uhhhh sorry about all the bugginess. Q: Isn't this why you hired another editor? A: Yep! Hilariously the buggiest parts of the video here are the parts she DIDN'T work on! Oops! This was good practice though, I think I'll start spreading out the work a little more to fix this. It's important to remember, when it comes to video editing, and running a channel, I am building this plane as I fly it, so uhhh thank you all for being patient with the crazy turbulent flight this has been. Q: Aren't "EGG" and the "HEH" in "Nyeheheh!" also ties between The Egg, The Knight, and Papyrus? Oh yeah! I completely forgot about that. In Wingdings: E is a finger pointing Left (←) G is a finger pointing up (↑) and H is a finger pointing down (↓) A Knight in chess can only move in an L shape, so EGG ←↑↑ is a viable move! This may connect the Egg to the Knight, or it may be a weird coincidence, hard to say! HEH isn't.. really how I would envision an L ↓←↓ but... technically that puts you in the same place as ↓↓←, which is also a viable move for a Knight to make in chess, so maybe...? I'd be surprised if Toby thought of that though. Q: Isn't the song that place in The Man's room a cover from Yume Nikki? A: Yep! I wasn't sure if I wanted to get into that though, since 1. Megalovania is also a referential song used for before Undertale, and B it opens up discussion about Seccom Masada-sensei, which.. I am not at all qualified or prepared to unpack. Q: Wait, Catpetterz is real??? A: Not exactly, but I'd argue Petz5 is very very similar to what Toby describes. I'd offer you a link to check it out but I'm not even sure the game is legally purchasable anymore. Q: You mentioned links in the description but I can't access them! D: A: Aw crap did youtube do a thing? Here'll put em here so you can still reach em. The voice of Susie was Cycoriot from Hell in a Handbasket, find them on Twitch here: www.twitch.tv/hellhandbasket The voice of Ralsei was Hollarity Find her on Twitch here: www.twitch.tv/hollarity Twitter here: twitter.com/HollarityArt On her Linktree here: linktr.ee/hollarity on her website here: hollarity.com/ The voice of Spamton was Everude! Find his channel here: kzbin.info/door/cdQ9Cn1k_z6ePz_XxgsDPg You can also find him on Walteryosmite's channel here: www.twitch.tv/walteryosmite/ For the Deltarune plays specifically you can find... Part 1 here: www.twitch.tv/videos/1538697011 Part 2 here: www.twitch.tv/videos/1538697073 Part 3 here: www.twitch.tv/videos/1538697145 Here's a clip in case those break clips.twitch.tv/BovineMagnificentChoughNinjaGrumpy-2LY_gqSn-uRRq71C Chao footage (or, the parts that weren't laggy garbage) were provided by Gibby! Find them on Discord here: TheGibbous (HASHTAG) 6840 (Didn't work? Join discord.gg/Y3vQtU5a5H) Tumblr: inportant-spam-rsvp.tumblr.com/ Twitch: www.twitch.tv/The_Gibbous Kofi: ko-fi.com/thegibbous272 KZbin: kzbin.info/door/7D3i_Bo7cnZRq_-1iS8tFQ The outro music was provided by Salticibread! Find her channel here: kzbin.info Wanna check out that Missingno video I keep trying to plug, but can't find it? Don't panic dawg it's right here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpaZcpiVZ8yegsU This video got remixed so many times oh god, it would probably be delayed for another week if not for our newest editor Molly m, check out her stuff here: kzbin.infovideos

[@charlieburnham39]

I noticed no audio or visual bugs! Although I didn't pause to read all the addendums and footnotes this time, so I may have missed something. A+ editing though, always very impressive for a channel of your size!

[@UnfunnyGuest]

Hey quick question Is it also possible that the man behind the tree is redacted?

[@Seagullcupcake]

Hi! Just a question. Is there a way to support you without direct donations? Not in a very stable place to be giving away money, but if there is something else, please tell me!

[@Lover_of_ebrietas]

Oooh boy text to speech truly a mark of quality

[@EditUnivers75]

I think at 1:31 the egg second egg was already in asgore's fridge, and kris accidentally mixed the two up and picked up an insignificant egg, leaving it in asgore's fridge to come up in a later chapter?

[@tobysvideos1227]

My theory is that it’s an Easter egg, and the reason it duplicates in the fridge is because by putting it in the fridge you have found another Easter egg

[@jacquespaught]

Easter is only one letter away from Gaster........

[@shatterednova_]

@@jacquespaught this is the same argument that caused "Sans is Ness"

[@jacquespaught]

@@shatterednova_ If you actually watched that video then you already lost.

[@mildlyinvested2992]

@@shatterednova_ to be fair, with the right font if you flip the a in sans 180 degrees it looks like an e, and vice versa.

[@Pipis19971]

YOU JUST MADE ME [see past the dark] RIGHT NOW! please give us more [online schooling] of your knowledge.

[@Noka050]

The fact that egg in wingdings is left up up, which is the movement of a knight is really interesting to me

[@pileorocks]

MMM. MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.

[@pileorocks]

THAT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE??????????????

[@mulberrytea549]

... wait. I'd need to check Hometown's map again but I think that's near exactly the movement of the dark worlds between 1 and 3? Because like... school > (go left) > library > (go up) > (go up) > Toriel's House

[@solairedude7119]

Or up up left, or up up right. Knights can move in more ways than just left up up

[@123phi123]

In chapter 1, you place the egg in the back of Asgore's home/flower shop, the only place you see him in chapter 1. In chapter 2, you place it in the back of the grocery store. If you place it there you're probably going to trigger the Eggs-Husband scene, the only time Asgore appears in chapter 2. Coincidence? Only time will tell.

[@samu99tv24]

10:40 When I remembered that Papyrus had an egg in his date encounter I literally screamed "EGG" out loud

[@PhantomGato-v-]

E g g

[@brinleyhamer729]

BAD Egg

[@KNightshade6]

12:35 I always thought the red tree outside of toriels house was supposed to mirror the recipes in asgores trash, they are trying to do what the other is good at, gardening and cooking, but just cant.

[@user-dq5fd4ht6z]

This is the first time I have seen a take like this and HOLY HECK this makes so much sense Congratulations, you're most likely unironically the first one that connected these things

[@corndogbark5915]

That old tree seems a little extra sad to me now

[@TheGreatSayaMan0212]

:( that’s so sad Nice headcanon, can I have it?

[@KNightshade6]

​@@TheGreatSayaMan0212 Of course!

[@TheGreatSayaMan0212]

@@KNightshade6 thx

[@jirtini]

The quiche also has references to responsibility in it, despite the fact that it’s just a little joke that Toby put in. The echo flower beside it says something along the lines of, “I just wasn’t ready for the responsibility.”

[@superawesomegoku6512]

Yeah... kinda dark if you think about it

[@patheticbread6861]

…..ok……..or the quiche means nothing and it’s just a joke?

[@HalfBreadChaos]

@@patheticbread6861 Toby had a weird experience irl in which he found a quiche under a park bench. Examining the code reveals that he planned to have a silly little side-quest for the quiche, but said quest was ultimately abandoned, a fitting end given the nature of the quiche itself.

[@patheticbread6861]

@@HalfBreadChaos I am aware this that but it is ultimately a joke

[@jirtini]

I know it’s a joke, I even said that in the comment, lol. I just wanted to point out that despite that, it still has a weird connection to responsibility.

[@moss_floss]

20:08 really reminded me of Ralsei. During the queen fight he says: “Queen, Think of the Lightners! Aren’t we supposed to make them happy?” And in chapter one, he says: “Our purpose - Darkners’ purpose - is to assist them. It’s the only way we can feel truly fulfilled.” This, plus some dialogue I came across from chapter one, if you save right before meeting with Ralsei at the castle, and walk down to talk to Susie, she says: “Maybe this place is an abandoned theme park?” “Wait, where are the rides, then…?” “Maybe they abandoned it ‘cause there weren’t any.” One last thing that I noticed from Ralsei’s Wiki. Now, I know it also mentions that his title changes throughout the game, but this bit about the acid love boat really caught my eye: “Ralsei's title changes depending on the pose Kris does for the camera” which, coupled with him previously talking about how “I don’t even know what being ‘Ralsei-like” is” makes me think that he is almost forcing himself to mirror our interests for the sake of our happiness, which might eventually lead us to “Leave Home Due to Happiness” . Kinda makes me think he’s the green crayon? He literally has no other purpose than to create what makes us happy, and if he does that too much he might just whittle himself down to just the paper wrapper, his clothes, which could explain why he disappears during battle but the “clothes” remain.

[@ninjabros6282]

Hmm Papyrus made the Dark World at school so that Kris wouldn't feel lonely without his Brother around to keep him happy Susie was a by product of that happiness factor

[@_mattyou_8733]

Omfg that crayon comparison makes so much sense Ralsei also takes off his hat after ch1, which could mean that he has whittled himself a bit in ch1 already This would also make sense to how did he appear in ch2, he was in kris's pocket

[@trouslinabone]

@@ninjabros6282 I think Papyrus made the dark fountain for himself, but Kris finding it was just unexpected.

[@moss_floss]

@@_mattyou_8733 imo I think Ralsei (if he really is the green crayon) was probably already in the storage closet before Kris and Susie got there, he was being used with all of those old papers we saw in the storage closet from chapter 1. Now this still doesn’t explain how he was still able to meet with us in chapter 2, i think if he was able to hop in our pocket we would’ve seen him in our inventory beforehand.

[@whomstthehecc3028]

@@moss_floss Just had a thought due to your comment. What if any item doesn't produce a unique darkner? For example, any green crayon could make ralsei, but, due to some dark world fuckery it could be that ralsei shares consciousness with other green crayons in other dark worlds? Something to think about is that, there are many darkners that, at least, appear to be VERY similar. For example, there are many of those chess enemies on the board, which symbolise the pawns, who are identical to each other. And, there are 8 pawns of each color in a chess set. So, since the pawns would all transform into the same kind of darkner, who'se to say something similar couldn't happen to other kinds of darkners?

[@chips6042]

Papyrus in Undertale canon is hinted at being VERY powerful. He is the only battle where his sprite doesn’t move AT ALL, even talks without moving his mouth (just like his brother Sans, which means he might move his mouth while talking just to not be uncanny). But in his date scene, he moves his mouth, his hands, his body, because he isn’t tense or holding back anymore. Other people who barely move while fighting you are Toriel and Asgore, who are concentrated on not killing you, and when they DO kill you, there is a split second regret sprite. Also Napstablook is another still battle, because they don’t want to be fighting at all. In contrast, the characters who REALLY want to kill you, like Sans, Mettaton, Undyne the Undying, Mad Dummy, etc, move around, they bounce, they dance, never still, trying their hardest. Papyrus being so chillingly still means he is using his whole might to hold back. Even then, he is able to summon different types of bone attacks and a gigantic bone with no problem! And when Flowey comes in at the end of a True Pacifist route, he uses four vines to hold down Papyrus, and only two for everyone else, why? Why if he didn’t know of some potential we don’t know about. We know Flowey liked to reset just to play around, he must have seen what Papyrus was capable of when he let himself get slightly lose. Undyne also mentions that Papyrus is strong, but he’s a softy. The only reason Papyrus doesn’t annihilate us, is because he’s too damn nice and really believes in everyone.

[@TheDeadOfNight37]

@@DogDogGodFog he hired a team of mercenaries lmao

[@DogDogGodFog]

@@TheDeadOfNight37 He was putting on a show for Alphys.

[@sylvie_loves_frogs4951]

this also makes sense because flowey essentially knows papyrus better than anybody. him. sans, and undyne are pretty much the only ones who know how strong he is, so he would know to restrain him better. if we assume that papyrus is just as good with magic as sans, he might also be stronger than him because he's not held back by having only 1hp, like sans does. instead, what cripples him is his inherent kindness

[@robertwagstaff1126]

@@DogDogGodFog And then he decided to kill you for real and use your soul to escape the Underground.

[@DogDogGodFog]

@@robertwagstaff1126 No?? Lmao. Mettaton never escapes the Underground.

[@TheCosmicCloud]

Somehow papyrus being the knight seems like it would be a more satisfying reveal than most other characters

[@bombintheseeinq]

it's just that papyrus is a knight is a *really* popular theory, to the point i wouldn't be surprised.

[@D_YellowMadness]

He did always wanna be a knight, although Berdly does too.

[@petruciosxd1374]

IT WAS ME, RABBIT KID FROM SNOWED INN AND RANDOM APARTMENT BUILDING

[@whereismycup]

@@petruciosxd1374 bro facts

[@FlareBlitzBanana]

I’ve also been going mad with a “papyrus is the Knight” theory too, but for an entirely different reason. The main argument against Papyrus being the knight was that he had no idea how or reason to open dark fountains. However, thanks to the Spamton Sweepstakes, we now know that it is possible for darkners to communicate with lightners before their fountains are open. I don’t think people realize just how massive this, as it massively expands the possibilities for who could be involved with the dark worlds. Papyrus, being the naive adventure seeker he is, would be very likely to obey mysterious messages telling him to stab at the ground. He already did something like this in Undertale when he obeyed Flowey’s request to bring everyone together. If someone like Gaster asked Papyrus to be the knight, I think he’d do it. One question is what the goals of the knight and Gaster are. If they’re allied like I’m assuming, then of course that goal would be the same. My thinking is that since Gaster likely knows he’s in a simulation/game and is spreading that knowledge, he’s trying to find a way to escape that simulation. In a way, Gaster wants to become a “real boy” like the Pinocchio-inspired Spamton. This question of what the goal is also ties back to Papyrus being the knight, as he, Jevil, Spamton and even Ralsei (if you wanna go there) all have something in common: they’re all optimists. Jevil is insistent that he is the truly free one. Spamton is no longer an optimist, but he was before meeting Gaster according to one of the Addisons. If you want to say Ralsei’s 4th wall breaks are a tie to Gaster, he too has an overall optimistic attitude even when getting Susie to listen seems like a pointless endeavor. And then there’s Papyrus, who’s so optimistic it hurts. Essentially, I think Gaster is choosing to tell optimists the truth about their world. He wants people who will be willing to fight for a solution and won’t be crushed under the devastating reality that their choices don’t matter. Jevil and Spamton suffered psychological damage after learning the truth. Ralsei either chose not to work with Gaster or he’s hiding his involvement with him very well. But Papyrus seems like the kind of person who wouldn’t let this kind of revelation keep him down. If anything, he may not even understand just how big this is. Still, if Papyrus believes that opening fountains will make people happier, he’ll do it. He is very determined and doesn’t let negativity get in his way. As a bonus, Papyrus fits the physical description of the knight being a large person with long arms. The computer lab is in a public library, so he could get in there with no one batting an eye. The school is a bit more difficult, but if he went in while class was in session he very easily could’ve made the fountain without being spotted. There’s some finer details to this, but I think I’ll stop there since my phone is about to die. Thanks for making these videos, I love Deltarune speculation!

[@HollyfromtheHollow]

...Y'know, I just realized something interesting. In Undertale, Papyrus is the only known character to personally know Flowey, who uses Papyrus to his advantage, manipulating him whenever he can. Deltarune has been making parallels to Undertale, both in characters and thematic elements. What if Papyrus is being manipulated once more...?

[@FlareBlitzBanana]

@@HollyfromtheHollow That’s my thinking too. It wouldn’t be the first time we see a character make a similar mistake in both games, since the Dreemurs are still divorced for what can be assumed to be something Asgore did. Character flaws are present as well like Alphys’ anxiety, Undyne’s brashness, etc.

[@HollyfromtheHollow]

...I also just remembered, @@FlareBlitzBanana, that Papyrus' main goal in Undertale is to become a member of the Royal Guard. All known members of the Royal Guard, besides the Dog couple, are either seen wearing big suits of armor or using knives and swords. Doggo dual wields knives, Undyne spends most of Waterfall chasing you in an intimidating suit of armor, Greater Dog is always seen with theirs, and Lesser Dog, RG01 and RG02 have both armor and giant swords. Now, in Deltarune, we have a roaring _Knight_ who goes around creating Dark Fountains with a _Blade._ The description matches perfectly. And, what's more, if you're one of those folks who wants to tie together Queen mentioning the _Hand_ of the Knight, then Papyrus lines up as well. He has the perfect amount of digits for a human hand, and if the holographic projection Queen shows doesn't line up, then it could easily be explained by him wearing gloves, _just like in Undertale._ I have my suspect, at the very least.

[@flagonking1337]

My theory has remained the same for a while regarding the Knight and Dess...Paps is the Knight, and he's opening fountains for her. If messages can go from the DW to the LW, then it would make sense that Dess would try to get out from the bunker DW I suspect she's trapped in. Getting Papyrus to find another way to get past a locked door...by opening more fountains.

[@HollyfromtheHollow]

...Huh. That would work excellently, @@flagonking1337. It lines up with his kind nature, but also his naive and mistaken tendencies. Believing by opening Fountains, he would either find an entrance to where Dess is, or find some way to rescue her... ...Without knowing or realizing the consequences of creating them.

[@butterspike680]

I think what's most intriguing about the egg is the fact that it doesn't change wether you are in the Light World or Dark World. All the items in the Dark World are just representations of their Light World counterparts, but the Egg remains the same, meaning it comes from somewhere else.

[@petruciosxd1374]

The man also just casually shows up in the Light World and then immediately disappears. Things in the Light World seem relatively normal, Undertale's magic doesn't even seem present, and then there's just... that? No Dark World shenanigans to explain this one away. And indeed, how come in an eggless playthrough we only notice the peculiar presence of a single egg the second time we inspect the fridge, when the first instance specifies the pickle jar is the only thing inside? It showing up on the first line read if we throw away the egg is even more sus. Kinda sounds like the lines about the man not needing to be there or allegedly never being there at all, sounding very sudden and even retroactive. Feels like someone forgot to update the game to add an easter egg in Asgore's fridge so they just stealthily did it after you reminded them by inspecting it. You know, normal things.

[@corndogbark5915]

I’m so glad I’m not the only one who thought of this! In my eyes, it’s just the last nail in the coffin of evidence towards the egg’s importance. Especially considering how drastically even Lightners themselves look in each world - for the egg not to change at ALL, there must be something very interesting behind it

[@herosshade2247]

Adding to this: There are sort of "universal constants" in each game, for example Toriel wanting to be a teacher and is a teacher in Deltarune. Papyrus wanted to be a Royal Guard in Undertale, and probably is a knight in DR as it's the closest thing. Also note that Undyne doesn't have an eyepatch in DR, Papyrus could totally have taken Undyne's role in this game, the threatening opposing force that turns out to be likeable and friendly. Also remember Flowey manipulated Papyrus in UT, it's likely that some unseen force told Papyrus that he would make lots of friends and be super popular if he became the Roaring Knight and opened up the Dark Fountains (recall that the reason he wanted to be a Royal Guard was for popularity and to make friends). Sans in UT wants you to spend time with Papyrus because he's worried about Flowey messing with him, and in DR Ch1 he pretty much right away asks you to hang out with his brother but turns it down at the last second because "he's busy". Seems awfully suspicious to just be a throwaway gag to throw salt on the wound for fans.

[@user-lh7mt7zo7l]

Speaking of universal constants I believe the "your choices don't matter" may be sort of like that one moment in Steins gate [Spoilers] They reach a point where Matsuri's watch always breaks and then **somehow** she dies. No matter what he does the outcome seems to be predetermined. Likewise maybe "your choices don't matter" is moreso a reference to how the game has universal constants and you only impact **how** you get to those points rather than having any control of those points themselves. That being said maybe Deltarune is going to emphasise the importance of the journey and how you get to a certain point and how it's not always about the ending.

[@Shrooblord]

​@@user-lh7mt7zo7lConnecting Steins;Gate to DELTARUNE/UNDERTALE even if only to illustrate a point....... THAT'S A WONDERFUL IDEA!! P.S. Mayuri! Tuturuuu~

[@spy_lass]

Gaster's hands aren't actually hands, he's just holding eggs

[@helo6824]

Those holes in his hands do indeed look like they are fit for eggs

[@cureabees9440]

w.d pipis gaster

[@jaredcondit9888]

Just like a woman

[@spedur3361]

@@helo6824 the dark spots aren't holes, they're his actual hands they're like suction cups

[@networkofneurons]

holding with what ❔❓🤨🤨

[@DGisheretoplah]

"Oh, what are you watching?" "A theory about how eggs can change the very fabric of existence."

[@OverStrive2008]

😮

[@liamthorsteinson850]

Something I feel might be important to point out in lancer's egg line at 6:25, is that the word egg is capitalized, implying that the "one Egg" he is talking about has some greater significance.

[@petruciosxd1374]

I recall some words are capitalized a tad randomly in Undertale and Deltarune but it does seem that way.

[@Rakned]

The talk of the Papyrus Knight theory reminded me of something, beyond his favorite food having eggs in it. During the ending sequence of a true pacifist playthrough, the same upbeat music plays throughout the entire sequence, with one exception - Papyrus' bedroom. It's a very odd choice, and one that's only become more foreboding over time.

[@Shrooblord]

Uhhh, what? That's freaking awesome.

[@Phhase]

Eggs are convoluted in Deltarune. Also, absolutely spot-on Spamton voice you found there. I love Jerma's impression but this is more like how I always imagined him.

[@jamlizard3800]

Jerma’s impression is indeed fantastic

[@leedlelel2373]

The best spamton voice is toby fox's

[@minuspi8372]

I'm sure a lot of people say this, but the way you adapted the Undertale and Deltarune art style to KZbin is sooooo good! All of the art and animations are perfect in their authenticity!

[@Pipis19971]

My personal head cannon is that the man is silently giving you the human soul to help you defeat something, possibly the angel, and it is disguised as a egg so no one finds out. There are 7 chapters on the list, so seven souls including the player. Also it's weird that egg in Lancers dialogue is capitlised.

[@maple...]

that implies all those children died in deltarune too, as well as chara. and that asgore killed them?? well maybe not, since he has those flowers. but maybe he planted a new flower every time he killed a child................ Well. that's just not true. but like how did those humans die then

[@Pipis19971]

@@maple... good point

[@floppaaaa3533]

as far as i know, each chapter is a day, and there are seven because that´s how many days left are before asriel goes back home, idk why asriel coming back from college may be important to the story, but that´s just my opinion

[@t.k.5088]

"Or, Hell, why not Spamton, he produces eggs more quickly than a queen bee." Bread... Bread, please... Sweet summer child. Don't give _that_ part of the fandom more fuel...

[@whereismycup]

its far too late now

[@ZaxorVonSkyler]

16:05 The only reason the Sans is from Deltarune theory doesn't make sense is because Grillby's name looks like it was sanded off and Sans was added afterwards. I have a theory that they are from Toby's 3rd game NudeAlert or NotRelated!

[@_pixelatedsilver2a412]

I love that there seems to actually be deltarune mods for Petz based on this vid. It's nice to see the modding scene in that game still alive after all these years

[@chippotato5647]

It's possible that Papyrus, without his battle body, might not stand out all that much, which is why the man behind the tree could be referred to as just "a man".

[@maxtube1952]

I think Papy just straight-up pulled a "BUT IT WAS I, DIO!" on us. If not, I will be sorely disappointed that the Man is either no-one important or just a strange twist when it could be *the twist of the century.*

[@TheGreatSayaMan0212]

WAS THAT A JOJO REFERENCE!?

[@0nullnil]

I LOVE the idea of Papyrus hiding behind a tree and giving eggs to Kris. It makes me laugh a bit, thinking about a nine-foot-tall skeleton just kneeling down and just offering it to you.

[@drewmigita3437]

Just one thing: man.ogg could actually have a version of Gaster's theme in its first three notes, albeit with the notes switched around and transposed. It has the same distances between notes. Gaster's theme's melody has 4 notes with this relationship: base note (A), half-step up (Bb), then a perfect 5th up (F), then a perfect 5th down (Bb). If we consider the Bb to be the Tonic (the main note of the scale), then we have the notes Ti, Do, and Sol from the scale, causing the melody to be Ti-Do-Sol-Do The first three notes of man.ogg have a similar relationship: Base note (E), Half Step down (Eb), then minor 6th up (B). If we consider E to be the Tonic, then we have the same 3 notes: Ti, Do and Sol, with the melody Do-Ti-Sol. Granted, E is not the tonic, but its interesting the notes are sort of similar.

[@doom64hunter]

That, and the fact that both tracks consists of two identical segments, the second being pitch shifted exactly 2 semitones down. I think it's pretty clear there is a connection. mus_st_him.ogg always sounded like a broken record with an audible cutoff, like it's actually just a loop of a segment, and not the full song.

[@jayrry]

dont you mean man.egg :)

[@allygator7]

I like the idea of papyrus being the knight because I like the idea of the knight being nice and not realizing what he's doing is wrong.

[@johnnyAFIRE]

I have nothing else to say besides: ANOTHER BANGER DROPPED!! Well done! I also wanna say that I love the text-to-speech! Very charming touch to your videos imo

[@trianglburger19]

what if the egg hatches and papyrus pops out?

[@CaptainObliviousV]

You can also lose the egg in the convenience store by activating the Toriel cutscene before putting the egg in the basket. It just acts like you already did it when you check the basket, and I hadn’t interacted with anything else before the cutscene. This happened to me on the Switch version (pre-patch), don’t know how much that matters, just thought I’d mention it.

[@residentmars]

it's very possible thats just a coding error, as it's very easy to make a small mistake as that

[@CaptainObliviousV]

@@residentmars I don’t doubt it, just thought I’d mention it

[@EpicGamer-fl7fn]

I actually am a big fan of the Chrono Trigger theory that could possibly even explain it and it could give us a good hint as to what is the current "state" of Gaster, and what's the deal with the egg. spoilers for that game below. Gaster himself resembles a lot the three great gurus from the Kingdom of Zeal. Gaspar, Melchior and Balthasar. they all were brilliant scientists and they were greatly renowed for their wisdom. The Gurus created a device known as "Mammon Machine" that would harness an insane ammonut of energy from Lavos, a giant and powerful turtle monster that crashed into earth eons ago and slowly kills the planet. However this plan fails, the machine wakes Lavos up which causes it to wreck chaos and the machine itself started opening gates and tears in reality across time. The three gurus fell into these tears and were transported into different times. Essentially you could say they did infact fell into their own creation. Now while Melchior and Balthasar were transported into actual time periods from the game, Gaspar actually got teleported into "End of time" . which is literally what the name suggests. Where time and space as we know it doesn't exist. There's especially a lot of similarities here between Gaster and Gaspar, like both of them seemingly being in very similar "states". But let's focus on the main topic of this discussion : the egg. You see halfway through the game, Chrono, the main character actually dies from Lavos, after traveling back to the Kingodm of Zeal times and witnessing the Mammon Machine failing, Lavos wrecking chaos and opening tears in reality, Chrono tries to stop it but gets literally destroyed. Thats when you can go to Gaspar and he will give you...a time egg. this time egg alongside a Chrono clone can be taken to the Death Summit in the far future. The place at the top where you place the egg is ODDLY SIMILAR to the hidden egg rooms. After this is done the time egg hatches, time stops and you replace the real Chrono at the moment of his death with a doll and Chrono is saved. So what the hell does this all mean? Well i don't think it's obviously gonna be directly 1:1 and Kris will die at some point and get swapped with the vessel we created using the eggs we got, however it's a good lead considering that Deltarune is definetly inspired just as much by Chrono Trigger as by Earthbound. The egg itself in CT represents the idea of possibility. On top of the fact that it has also unusual space-time properties, like it stops time when it hatches and to hatch it we have to treat it like an egg. Kind of what happens in Deltarune too considering that despite its weird unegglike properties Kris can "treat it like an egg" by putting it into the fridge or into the egg basket. As if it was just another usual egg. What i think it could be is that it could be the way to somehow introduce the Vessel character into the game. How though i have no clue.

[@DogDogGodFog]

Oh my god! Why has no one come up with this before?

[@gregorydery]

Was doing something then stopped to watch this video

[@verity_amo]

Felt that

[@Buglin_Burger7878]

Looking back at the "Egg Glitch" you brought up on my second watch... what if it is an intended glitch? Toby didn't want plush dolls made of Lightners, there is an line between fiction and non-fiction intended in game. The eggs are "glitches" brought into the real world. Deltarune is clearly dealing with fiction versus reality. Toby also made it clear that people shouldn't have exposed a certain secret hidden in the files in Undertale or he wouldn't hide secrets anymore. It was updated to just chaotic laughing. So if you need a few Eggs to make things work out perhaps he did move the "Egg Character" to almost the front of the game. An aspect of fiction that messes with reality is Glitches. While Kris, Noelle, and Susie are all versions of themselves... a glitch remains the same both in and out of a game. The egg will always be an egg. It will always behave oddly and inconsistent in reality and in fiction. Look at MissingNo. Our stories of it are just as chaotic as itself. A skeleton, an L, or other shapes. Mandatory Gaster moment. So Gaster's "death" isn't a death. It is a Glitch. That is why the game crashes or resets. Have you ever seen a Sprite glitch out after doing something it should not? It looks like it was torn into pieces and scattered around. The more extreme the more things get pieces of it. This doubles back onto Toby not "hiding" secrets. They are in plain sight and become increasingly obvious. (The tree on the wall hinting at the room.) Undertale was a game because Toriel got a plush and Frisk and others I believe got figurines, Gaster touched something and glitched out of existence. That is even why the game crashes, reality itself glitches. It also means the stating sequence of Deltarune takes place in the Dark World somewhere. Or not, but I noticed this so I thought I'd share my crazy observations.

[@brawlmaster0190]

You don't actually lose the Egg in Chapter 2. It moves by itself in the basket. If you check it,it will still say:"there are more eggs here than usual"

[@victorvirgili4447]

It left you from excessive happiness.

[@conflictt3224]

The fact that Spamton hacked/glitched the Cat game Noelle was playing might be why he is Cat Type in Deltarune.

[@weedcat1683]

I love how the amount of eggs he was surrounded slowly increased every time he showed his supposed office.

[@D_YellowMadness]

The suspicious thing about the removed tree is that if you wanted a rudinn to pop out from behind a tree, you'd seemingly just script it to do so & if it didn't work, you'd probably just fix it pretty easily or make the tree turn into a .png explosion after the rudinn leaves it. I don't think you'd just delete the tree. This seems intentional.

[@petruciosxd1374]

Especially so because dialogue like that continuing a previous conversation is typically locked behind actually experiencing said conversation, and that goes for normal in-game dialogue actually present in the finished version, so how weird is it for that interaction to be the _only_ available dialogue when reaching the exchange it's referencing is completely impossible.

[@firestorm3k882]

I'm now shaken by the fact that Papyrus is riding a cungadero at the end of pacifist

[@Cyber_Cat]

The mystery man's fun value is 66, and there are 12 eggs in a carton with 6 in each row, 2 6's of eggs... 66! COINCIDENCE, probably. 🥚

[@graphwarsinc.2201]

Oh my... In the Pacifist Credits Scene there is literally a chicken flying above Papyrus. At 14:05 you can see.

[@LukeSky]

That’s the bird that Carries you across the disproportionally small gap

[@graphwarsinc.2201]

@@LukeSky birds lay eggs still.

[@Messier__]

@@graphwarsinc.2201 not across disproportionally small gaps they don't

[@graphwarsinc.2201]

@@Messier__ birds still lay eggs. im not saying that this particular bird did, but still.

[@EarthboundBenjy]

Is it possible Toby remembered writing the chapter 1 jerky scene but didn't remember that it went unused when writing the callback to it? This inconsistency is going to bug me now...

[@aidanlitts386]

Okay, I know someone else had probably already said this, but here goes. I've been playing Earthbound on my Switch, and I got to Burglin Park in Twoson. There is a small market there with various vendors. One of them sells eggs, and if you refuse to buy one, he says "You won't get through your teen years without at least one egg." Lancer's dialogue about the egg is a reference to Earthbound, the game that inspired it all. I just thought it was cool. Can't wait to see your next video this Saturday/Sunday!

[@creditsunknown7974]

1:46 Are sure it isn't that just, Asgore has arleady one egg in his fridge?

[@lasagna3289]

That "vermillion herring" joke got me good.

[@grayanddevpdx]

Papyrus is the man behind the tree. Spamton is one of Papyrus’s accounts after being hijacked. Papyrus hid the Joker card when he was young because it was going to be thrown away due to it not being in any game the other students liked.

[@buttercookiesfourtwenty]

whoa whoa, wait. so a lot of people are confused about the room in queens mansion with all the lights symbolizing someone. If papyrus room has a lot of flame themes things in it, then why couldn't the flame shaped light symbolise papryus?

[@ScrungleSketches]

There was a theory I saw that the red-orange boot shaped light was papyrus. Specifically papyrus’s boots.

[@xX_r_Xx]

so I was watching Chuggaaconroy's let's play of Paper Mario and there's an egg in a bush at the base of Mt. Rugged and its description "An Egg of unknown origin. Restores 5 HP." reminds me of deltarune. Though what makes the paper mario Egg different is that it can be obtained limitlessly by exiting & re-entering the room. It also has a known purpose with the game's cooking NPC. A direct contrast to Deltarune's eggs. Who have no clear purpose and can only be obtained once per chapter. Something else that's interesting is that Paper Mario has chapters.

[@DogDogGodFog]

Lancer's quote sounds like it's genuinely hinting at the egg being necessary towards a good ending

[@KyrieFortune]

Reminds me of one of the "Conspiracy Theory Iceberg" by Wendigoon, specifically the "Quantum Time Travel" theory in which scientists have allegedly demonstrated time travel... with an egg.

[@STPplayer64]

R.I.P HalfBreadChaos Drowned in eggs

[@mrtopper930]

I think gaster gives you the egg, for a future side-quest where a scientist wants to break the world record of biggest scrambled egg tower.

[@CrownedDoomer]

I think it might be everyman.

[@TheRealSuperKirby]

I want the egg to hatch one chapter and then you just have a tiny everyman following you for the rest of the game, it serves no purpose in game, but has huge lore implications.

[@arg1]

my theory is that toby is screwing with us, knowing we'll fall into the habit hole of the egg, and all these glitches are intentional and not errors.

[@Seagullcupcake]

As a wise hat kid once said: Egg

[@TheLoaf1743]

Tbh Gaster/Mystery Man’s head looks like a cracked egg. Egg shaped, white, cracks all over! You could say… he was *shattered* , or even *scrambled* across time and space!

[@TheLoaf1743]

And yeah, you have one of Noelle’s blog posts from Spamton’s Sweepstakes. She describes a glitched circle. Doesnlt hatch, and it ends up duplicating itself *just like the egg you put in Asgore’s fridge.* Only problem with it is that it’s a blue circle, which would mean it’s closer to a pipis than an egg. We also have the other blog post where she talks about a strange door in another game she plays, which is likely a reference to the gray door in Waterfall.

[@Tree6363]

I found your channel a few months ago, gotta say I really dig your video style. Not sure exactly what it is, but its presented in a very consumable matter, and you always seem to give new insight onto an alreadu popular theory, or give new angles. Such as the japanese (i think its japanese, i forgor) symbols and the formal shit and all that. Really interesting stuff. I think the papyrus behimd the red tree is very weird. I think it may be deliberate, and it seems like a toby troll thing. This egg guy being hyped up to be a super mysterious character and in the end it just turns out papyrus loves giving eggs or something lol. Anyway, keep it up chief.👍

[@kittenthesmol7373]

Papyrus being the Knight is such a Toby thing to do, just like the thing with the counterfeit dance animation in chapter 2

[@hollingharris659]

2:13 the phrase "What Egg?" when u drop it could def be a callback to what pumpkin

[@Arkivalry]

10:35 YESS! MY PAPYRUS-THEORY FREINDS AND ME HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS SINCE LIKE FOREVER! I'm so glad to see someone point this out, its really nice since my theories are very jumbled and....not popular. OH MY GOSHH!! As I continue watching this theory, I'm so happy that its pointing out things that my friends and me have noticed over the years AND MORE!! AGH! this makes me so happy! and I finally get to see this theory into a grade-A video such as this. Especially when there is so much quality theories!

[@Cool-Vest]

I had a theory that having all of the eggs and shadow crystals would unlock a secret 4th ending; one I couldn't predict anything about. Notice how you have to put these eggs on VERY specific locations? Maybe they'll hatch into something that can defeat the Titans. Or maybe they'll evenly corrupt all parts of the world, and it will end up being like the Omega Flowery fight but against Papyrus.

[@Cool-Vest]

@Nobody I kind of hypothesized that the neutral ending would have the roaring happen, but you seal the fountains, which reminds time to the first day except there's no dark worlds. The Weird ending will have the most powerful lighteners absolutely obliterate the roaring titans, saving the town. True Pacifist will maybe have all of the darkners sacrifice themselves to turn the Titans to stone. Then they all turn back or something.

[@alienenthusiast]

Awww, the jerky=candy conversation is cute, I hope they can add it back into chapter 1 (at least so it gives context to the chapter 2 dialogue).

[@CyanicCore]

It seems like someone beat me to this, but EGG in Wingdings is ☜︎☝︎☝︎, a Knight movement in chess. However, this may explain something else, too. I'll need to introduce another theory, though: It's likely there are multiple Knights. This would explain why so many details are suspicious, and allows all of our evidence to make sense, especially since it's implied multiple characters have opened a fountain by this point. In fact, it's probable that Knight comes from/actually means Night. After all, what they do is open Dark Fountains, the Roaring is a worldwide Darkness, and dreams most commonly occur in the Night. Regardless, assuming that there are indeed multiple Knights, we may know why the Egg multiplies even in the Light World (though this/the pipis stuff could be separate, a lot happened recently). Giving the Egg to Kris is one movement, but Kris placing it in Asgore's Fridge is a separate completed movement. Heck, considering how well so many other game details tie, perhaps ALL of the multiplications represent an individual's choice or something like that. Who knows? P.S. I've been holding onto most of that since October 2021, so much of what we've learned recently wasn't really incorporated. I didn't feel the chance to post it somewhere before, so I'd appreciate thoughts on it.

[@D_YellowMadness]

If there are multiple knights & each "man" (except Gaster) is a knight, I wonder if that means Everyman is what happens when all the knights get combined into an amalgamate or maybe when they all put their souls/determination/essence/whatever into a shared body & use it to travel between worlds without turning to stone. I'm actually not even sure if Everyman is an amalgamate in the first place, considering he doesn't really look like one & just kinda shows up in characters' attacks & in some graffiti.

[@CyanicCore]

@@D_YellowMadness I'm starting to think Everyman exists just to scare us. Toby didn't even give us a name in canon! On the other hand, Everyman being a vessel of some sort IS pretty intriguing. Or perhaps the antagonist(s)/Knight(s) will toss him out as a miniboss in a late chapter?

[@A_very_good_cheese]

The biggest plotwist in this video was the fact that spaghetti isnt papyrus favorite's dish

[@kill_psyfurr]

my theory is that he will add more and more proof for each character being the knight and it will never be confirmed

[@sandwich2473]

That was certainly a lot of interesting information :o Much to think about 👀

[@Barakon]

Papyrus & Gaster are both the knight because the knight is Gaster possessing Papyrus, that’s why the man doesn’t have Gatser’s theme but something from Yume Nikki, DREAM DIARY, & that’s why they’re associated with Papyrus. Their semi corporeal powers combined lead to some glitching in the fabric of their universe’s space time, hence the Easter egg properties, heck, perhaps gifting Easter eggs specifically is Papy’s shtick in this game & he’s the one to gift Temmy her black & white hard boiled egg? Maybe it works a bit more like fusion hence the knight having their own identity but maybe the knight & the man are just cover up names…idk… Also how would the parental symbolism of the eggs effect the Spamton Simps out there?

[@alkishalkias3139]

Papyrus wants to become a member of the royal guard, a KNIGHT...

[@100thfail]

The voices for the characters feel quite fitting and well done

[@The_Humbugg]

Probably too simple, but at 12:41, with the tree having matured (or died), it might symbolize the egg cracking, ie the children leaving toriels home. Since we're handed an untracked egg early on, perhaps it'll eventually start showing signs of maturity to signify the growth of Kris?

[@maple...]

somehow i've never considered the possibility of one of the eggs hatching

[@patgru2587]

The man behind the tree is Gaster and he gives you egg with Papyrus inside and that's why he's not in deltarune :troll

[@0202Artemis]

love watching your videos and your editing, just have one comment - when you highlight ingame lines of text in yellow or red, it may be confusing because some people may think they are actually highlighted in the game (i was confused like that several times, including while watching this video). maybe choosing another colour might help with avoiding that kind of a confusion? thank uuu

[@Cbrnnnn]

I feel like 7:40 is more of a play on ‘a man of the people’ and ‘people person’ than assuming that spamton’s a family man. I mean it still can relate to responsibility, as it implies spamton has a level of authority and a duty to his pipis, but it’s certainly different.

[@nermomi]

We truly live in an egg

[@synthwaverider]

In regards to Sans there's two odd details that I think people should be more aware of - He never mentions his "Little brother"'s name. - He just moved into town and "I already befriended your mom last night" Now we've got to remember that Sans and Papyrus are not from Undertale's underground either, they just showed up one day. Thus there is no Deltarune equivalent to them. The Sans from Deltarune IS somehow the Sans from Undertale, he just recently showed up just like in Undertale. I believe he showed up at the same time the Player takes control over Kris. When we take over Kris they're sleeping, Sans showed up in town that very night. Kris doesn't have any friends or hobbies when the game takes place; Going to bed every day as soon as possible waiting for Asriel to come back from college is very in-character. This doesn't really relate to the eggs just something that people got to remember when including Sans and a potential Papyrus in any theory. It's possible that Papyrus is not even on Deltarune; Sans is the only one tied to Gaster and with Gaster's influence in this game I can see why Sans would be here, as a sort of agent. We know in the Introduction Chara is the one that discards our Vessel and that's likely something Gaster had not intended to happen; Gaster getting Sans to be around as a way to stop things from getting out of hands if Chara gets involved again seems to check out.

[@cursed-cat9126]

Asgore after finding multiple eggs in his fridge and he can no longer get rid of it:

[@guillermorolandoferradaven9]

Hi. I don't know if you or anyone else has ever came up with this, but I think it could be Everyman. Like you said in the video, the Mystery Man Behind the Tree is never refered as "him", but always like "man". Wich other mysterious character has "man" in his name? That's right, Everyman! Everyman is white and plain like a chicken egg. He has a bird like head and has always been related to birds, being related to the bird amalgamete and to the ducks in Jevil's atacks. So I think hd could be the Man Behind the Tree. On another note, this video made me think that the Man Behind the Tree might be a distinct separate character, appart from Gaster and the Knight.

[@zacbob07]

When he said "I've been writing this script since D E C E M B E R" i realized deltarune has completely rotted my brain, i can't even look at Hollidays anymore!

[@brawlfan]

fun fact about Generation 2's glitch Pokémon: they can be used to let gen 2 mons into the Time Capsule, a thing used to trade between the Generation 2 and Generation 1 games, provided the glitch Pokémon is in a higher slot of your party than the mon you want to bring. This won't allow for sneaking in illegal moves though. And also if you don't move anything you want to trade above the glitch Pokémon, it becomes the same thing as the glitch Pokémon or something like that. I'm not entirely sure how it works, or if you need a specific glitch Pokémon (all gen 2 glitch Pokémon have the same name btw) but one thing I do know is that all except Celebi have a corresponding glitch Pokémon they'll become in generation 1, provided you remember to move them above the glitch Pokémon after entering the Time Capsule.

[@flagonking1337]

Well, all I took out of this is that the snowglobe is probably is a Gaster thing. Can't speak his name? Black and White skeleton? Makes sense to me! As for Paps being the knight...I feel like he has to have a good reason for that stuff if he is, egg or no egg.

[@teldd1194]

If Papyrus IS the knight, which, while unlikely, is a very real and interesting possibility, then I'd imagine his reason is probably similar to Berdly's and Noelle's at the end of Chapter 2, before they are interrupted by Ralsei - wanting to create a better world, and creating Dark Worlds to achieve the, without knowing of the consequences. The thing that bugs me the most about this theory is how The Knight, so far, seems to be an antagonist, while Papyrus is a good guy, but it light jury be that Papyrus started with good intentions, and got sidetracked along the way, or that he is unable to listen to Reason because of something or another. Still, the theory is interesting. Sorry for kind of hijacking your comment, I was answering your question about potential motives for Papyrus' Dark World Making Spree, but got sidetracked :p

[@DogDogGodFog]

Jack Skellington is Gaster.

[@autumngalix4616]

Because Gaster is an egg. We litteraly see a piece of him in the cat monster's hand. He is round.... like an egg. There is little evidence of the dude behind the grey door being Gaster. It's that simple.

[@asteroid889]

“Deltarune is a world where the personalities of characters are the same, but their circumstances are different.” So it’s Inverted Fate.

[@coolgames6452]

Maybe Asgore had 1 egg in his fridge and you only think to acklowledge it when you've had the sus egg.

[@MaladaptiveDaydreamerr]

Flowey also mentions that Papyrus’ favorite food is literally dinosaur egg oatmeal.

[@georgehanselman1365]

Just got into this channel and this is my first vid I’ve caught somewhat recent to release and I can’t wait you make great content and great luck to your channels future

[@vesselling]

*Truly the genius of all time.* I had no idea you could enter the dark world by sleeping! The thousands of meticulously planned details are a joy to be seen and analyzed by other people.

[@noizepusher7594]

The voice acting for the characters was really good! I unironically really love your spamton voice.

[@iTzNikkitty]

One very big point for the eggs being related to Gaster somehow is that the room with the tree has the exact same dimensions as the one where you find mystery man.

[@Skewber-]

I think spamton is a hive mind, because in the Spamton Sweepstakes videos theres like 5 different spamtons with different middle names. And another reason is cuz the pipis releases little spamtons :)

[@chromemaskqurae1222]

'What if Gaster and this egg is connected?... Gaster is both sad and happy. A egg is important and unimportant... Gaster is trying to tell the player something but what is it? ' - Chrome

[@PepeChadIsDaGoat]

what if by going to sleep, Kris goes himself without you to school?

[@Sandwhichioussandwhich512]

Amogus

[@_bob7427]

When Sans says the hang-out had to be canceled, when you ask how long, he says: “maybe a day… maybe another 2 years.” And, it has been just about two years since then, perhaps we can see Sans’ brother in *Chapter 3?*

[@pehetutzmemecatboi6731]

Actually noticed that little reference to the original channel name you had. Didn't expect. Very cool.

[@dcornect53]

"You know how Azgore is..." Falling apart without his wife? Poor guy.

[@salmuttotabreabittlecochicarac]

in chapter 1, you helped resolve susie's bullying and lack of social skills. in chapter 2, you helped resolve noelle's shyness and helped resolve birdly's huge ego.

[@CalvinNoire]

In chapter 3, you helped resolve Toriels overprotective ness and emotional disconnect with Kris? Possibly?

[@Greatwolfpearl123]

I think it’s very interesting that so many clues point to Papyrus to being the Knight. If so, it makes me so sad to think that our quirky but compassionate skeleton has become something we’d be less than proud of. I am so excited to figures out what is happening in this crazy lore filled world. Loved the video, HalfBreadChaos! Keep it up, this is probably the best Deltarune theory channel, and all of the other videos about other things are great too!

[@NoSankyuu]

I recieved 4 ads on this video, two at the beginning and two at the end. Also great editing and observations as always

[@coboldoconlaspada9139]

Absolutely amazing how each video gets better and better, go at it!!

[@applesugarlol]

1. I love how you (or whoever does it I'm not sure) can give the Text to Speech so much personality, it's amazing 2. With every theory, somehow my mind keeps getting blown up like the Annoying Dog in a toy car. Honestly the amount of digging you do every time is, once again, amazing to me. Great work!

[@D_YellowMadness]

After seeing Spamton's post about "egg" being a sensitive word to pipis & him being allowed to say it because he's their friend (or something like that), the line "What are my eggs gonna do?" doesn't read the same in my mind anymore.