Who is the worst of Fallout's Evil Karma NPCs?

[@ian7064]

If the karma system existed in FO4, I think the only very evil character would be that a-hole gunner in greentech genetics with the missle launcher

[@chriskuzianik9507]

And maybe Dr. Ayo. But def the a-hole with the launcher. He's just there to ruin an otherwise flawless and easy run

[@ian7064]

@@chriskuzianik9507 the craziest part is we all know he's there, we've played through it many times. Yet he still gets us. It's like he's an unavoidable force of nature

[@chriskuzianik9507]

@@ian7064 my best and fav way to beat him is with a stealth melee build and use a stealth boy, your weapon of preference and, most importantly, the blitz perk. You can practically teleport to and gut him in VATS because blitz is such a ridiculously OP perk.

[@slickrhoads3523]

Him or that bastard with the fat man at libertalia. I get jumpscared when I get blown up every time.

[@ian7064]

@@slickrhoads3523 At least with that raider, you can swim underwater and have more room to move around. With the missle launcher gunner, you're only option is to walk down the narrow hallway

[@dreadedworld8864]

I think the reason Jamie's Karma is set to Very Evil is so when you free him from his mental imprisonment you get Karma

[@adamusprime403]

You see my theory was that Bethesda was saying Jaime's soul was corrupted by Ug-Qualtoth, that whatever was good or innocent about him was taken away through his prolonged exposure to the obelisk

[@rautamiekka]

My thoughts exactly, besides what RadKing said.

[@KyzenEX]

Jaime*, it's a Spanish name

[@adamusprime403]

@@KyzenEX aw man I was originally gonna spell it that way, and than I gaslit myself into believing I was wrong.

[@KyzenEX]

@@adamusprime403 honestly can't blame you, I had to double-check due to how the narrator was pronouncing it too lmao

[@blackmesacake5361]

I always forget about Cook-Cook because by the time I've ever met him in any playthrough, he was very easy to put down. Then, you hear what he did again, and it's obvious why he's the worst.

[@vulpesinculta3238]

I think Motor-Runner and Driver Nephi, as well as Saint James, are every bit as bad considering Dermot's ledger. "TO NEPHI: Teen girl - 400 caps Teen boy - 150 caps Child girl (7?) - 50 caps More like it. Learned from past and got rid of mom and dad along the way. Tried to get more for the young one I said hey give her time to sprout. But Nephi wouldn't have it. Kept SJ off the girls so long as he got his damn teddy. Hes a sick one but I guess the work calls for it."

[@creed8712]

@@vulpesinculta3238I’m not totally surprised there’s not more of that in Fallout but I’m a little surprised there’s not a little more of it

[@jayl5032]

Violette, Nephi, and Cook-Cook all have cut dialogue. I really miss being able to chat them up, before gunning them down. Like the other guy said, it's just so easy to put them down, that you forget about them.

[@littleregg3164]

i would argue tenpenny is more evil

[@Prince_Luci]

@@littleregg3164 an apathetic rich guy Vs a guy who r*pes and cooks people. No. You are incorrect.

[@emerald6489]

The fact in cut content Driver Nephi tells you to stay away from Cook-Cook says something.

[@maestrofeli4259]

driver nephi's bored delivery kills me everytime, specially after seeing cook cook's energy and the dog lady's craziness

[@justaguyonyoutube4592]

@@maestrofeli4259 Probably due to not being surprised, and after what he’s seen, done and experienced, I’m not surprised. The guy’s a cold blooded psychopath.

[@deeznutz3712]

Ngl, cook cook is the weakest of em all, but has the sickest gear of em all

[@JohnJohn-r4l]

I mean, cook cook crosses the line in my opinion. Cannibal? No problem, I am too. But rape? Brother, get me my super sledge, I must cleanse and purge.

[@naiveveg8447]

​@maestrofeli4259 gotta stay calm when playing golf. Even if the ball is innocent peoples skulls.

[@FuteFranta]

Just weird Clanden wasn't given such karma, his snuff tapes are on par with Cook-Cook.

[@vontosmagicmurderbag2611]

Hmm I wonder what this says about the dev who set Clanden's karma and what they think about prostitutes.

[@GorFrag]

New Vega's karma system is all messed up. rushed project.

[@jeremyh6686]

To elaborate on another reply the karma system is vestigial at best in fallout new vegas there's multiple examples of this where karma levels don't make sense I believe triangle city has a video on it if your interested

[@ExpandDong420]

​@GorFrag Karma was a dumb system so it should have been cut to begin with

[@nighteye4042]

@@ExpandDong420 I've got to disagree with this, karma was a good system

[@HnJn-sr3ct]

If evil is defined by the Karma system of the older series, I love the fact nuking ncr and ceaser both is considered ''neutral'' by the game 😂

[@jackrinaldi5579]

Ncr and legion are evil mr house is righteous

[@realn1ggamotion]

caesar*

[@Twiggy10]

Well to some, it can be seen as a right and just action, someone who is in favor of an independent new Vegas, or someone in favor of house’s new Vegas may see it a way to help move forward, past the need for a leader that controls all, while one that believes in either the legion or the NCR can see it as incredibly harmful and a huge tragic lost of life, so it really depends on how the person feels about either faction, which is why they probably didn’t want to assign a karma value to it.

[@BadVoodo0]

It depend on the reasoning really. It both are a means to an end then yes it can be seen as a neutral action, also you're attacking war targets and not "civilians" depending.

[@maestrofeli4259]

lonesome road is dumb

[@reddeaddude2187]

Real number 1: The NPC that corrupted my 50+ hour save of New Vegas

[@Rad_King]

😂

[@armanada7600]

can we get "who is the biggest weirdo in fallout" which will be more subjective rather than objective

[@BobTheMartin]

At number one The player

[@CloudBlitzer]

Number one is Sierra Petrovita hands down

[@Umbra_Ursus]

So that'd be Nate (I mean, come on, the man can go *hard* into his cosplay), that motorcycle sound guy the raiders talk about, that raider wanting the naughty nightwear, that guy that wanted to tame mirelurks, or that moonshine woman in Point Lookout.

[@sludgedweller]

my vote would have to go to the guy in the mt charleston cave audio log. iykyk

[@richardarriaga6271]

​@@CloudBlitzer She's just an attractive functional addict with a Nuka Fandom. Balancing Radaway with Nuka Cola Quantum. Not that weird even if she talks to a frozen head at NukaWorld. Remember, the Fallout has a talking tree.

[@spookydonutghosthouse]

I always assumed that Jaime having very evil karma is in the same way the feral ghouls having evil karma so when you kill them you gain karma like it's a mercy killing and you're putting both the feral ghouls and Jaime out of their misery

[@Pixel22-fs3tt]

If the Enclave had let wastelanders join them, then I believe that Mr. Burke would indeed join them

[@lemonsarelemonade4439]

Idk, i think the enclave could see mr burke as a false diplomat. And take him aboard

[@RUSTYCHEVYTRUCK]

And apparently everyone on Reddit

[@BLK_MN]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Mr. Burke is an ex-enclave member. Makes sense with all we know about him. He’s much cleaner and organized than other people in the wasteland, prefers to keep a low profile, and kills indiscriminately if the opportunity presents, all while staying out of harms way himself. That’s a lot of skills and capabilities for a random wastelander. He probably ditched the Enclave when he realized he could not rise through the ranks fast enough, got sick of grunt work, or figured he could live a cushier care-free life manipulating people outside the Enclave. Even more ominous, perhaps he was exiled from the Enclave for being too extreme. It could be as simple as his tolerance for ghouls, which the Enclave has a zero-tolerance policy towards, or Mr. Burke truly is psychotic, and not even the Enclave wants him.

[@maskedman2210]

If we are gonna go enclave, I feel like Frank Horrigan should get at least a mention

[@Pixel22-fs3tt]

@maskedman2210 But Frank Horrigan is Enclave, and we know that

[@SeuSav]

Is strange when people like Caesar,Lanius,Salt-in-the-wound,St James,Clanden and other named enemies doesn't get very evil karma but a random ass fiend does

[@Littlejohnnymarston1]

Josh sawyer admits new Vegas karma system is weird

[@centercannothold]

What if the evil karma is just a state of mind ?

[@SeuSav]

@@centercannothold Then we have to create a new Tier for Caesar until he gets cured

[@Blueninja825]

Same with Roy Phillips, Stanislaus Braun and Father Elijah, I would say they also should have been given Very Evil karma.

[@toe_sucker_4165]

There actually has been an explanation for Caesar's neutral Karma: "Neutral" meaning "Alien". The Legion's system of morality is so different from ours that he can't realistically be judged as good or evil.

[@almostpalindrome2957]

if i remember correctly, the reason Ahzrukhal ordered for Greta and not Carol to be killed was so that he can then sell his chems to Carol. In his terminal you can read his description of Carol as being depressed after Gob’s departure and Greta was the reason preventing Ahzrukhal from approaching Carol.

[@madd.villain]

Crazy I didn't realize Philippe was that bad, in my game, my speech was so high I got him to ramble about his parental issues and then proceeded to walk away saying he doesn't want to cook anymore. lol

[@PalisadePeryton]

You just therapied a man into giving you his job

[@MardrukZeiss]

Vulpes: Lawful Evil Mr. Burke: Neutral Evil Cook-Cook: Chaotic Evil

[@ThatGuySizzleMac]

I'd say Mr. Burke is Chaotic Evil also since even though he makes it seem like the reason he wants Megaton destroyed is just for business, but when you do blow up Megaton he gets extremely excited (almost to a fetishistic extent) when you do it. Also, Tenpenny told him to at least let the people leave before he did it to which Burke just decides not to cause screw them. Tenpenny would be Neutral Evil since he just made an offhand comment, and did say "tell the people they should leave...but they ain't coming here unless they have the caps," but all in all still could really care less about the people there. Burke just wants to watch Megaton burn people and all.

[@benboy9554]

I would say Burke is chaotic evil and ahzrukhal is neutral evil.

[@MardrukZeiss]

@ThatGuySizzleMac Good point but I would still deem Burke being Neutral Evil as a Evil that uses law and society for is own evil means. Unlike Cook-Cook he understands the value of law and its subversion fornhis own means, who are pure evil.

[@snokey1153]

LAWFUL?

[@allhandsondik7803]

I'd say Tenpenny is way more Lawful than Vulpes, if only cause he's apathetic. Vulpes tortured and destroyed Nipton, irradiated a whole town just to kill the soldiers there (through radiation poisoning, a famously painful way to go), and has undoubtedly done just as, if not worse shit, with a huge smile on his face and probably a brick in his pants.

[@meinebosma]

It is not that the Lone Wanderer has plot armor, but it is that the player charcter is the avatar of a different higher power. Glory to Atom.

[@willkp50]

@sneedfeedandseed2410sneed?

[@StationaryGamingReal]

200th like

[@shaurmiath6719]

My Evil Karma character: You killed Eulogy Jones because he's an evil monster. I killed him because I wanted his clothes. We are not the same.

[@theratking013]

My guess is that Jamie got corrupted by the Evil coming from the Obelisk and the great Old One of the Fallout universe, so his evil Karma could be explained that way or all of the evil Deeds he did in the Name of his evil God before the Player finds him.

[@richardarriaga6271]

Yeah, he probably kills wastelanders who get too close to the obelisk

[@duderitoz6953]

He chose to keep a corrupted & evil book, thats an evil choice. He then fell into the grips of the evil diety within. He is definitely evil

[@ICCUWANSIUT]

​@@duderitoz6953did he though? I was under the assumption that he took it because it was his father's and got corrupted

[@timothyharris1125]

@@duderitoz6953 They didn't even know what the book was capable of, no less what the book was about.

[@BadVoodo0]

Saint James and Dermot deserve to be on the list, just below Cook Cook. These 2 always disturbed me more then Cook-Cook because while Cook-Cook is a monster he also makes NO effort to hide it. Dermot and Saint James were sociopaths that went under the radar and lived in Westside carefree just blending into society while everyone around them was oblivious to the horror they've done. They also preyed on families, children who were refugees and knowingly gave children to people that will inflict hell onto them. Dermot was the business man that just wanted caps and used the sadistic Saint James as a tool to help him kidnap refugees for the fiends, the guy was also very robotic about it. On the opposite end Saint James seemed like an unhinged weirdo lacky dult that's being held on a leash by Dermot, he also has molested underage girls just before giving them to Cook Cook and even kept one of their teddy bears so he can relive the moment. Imagine being a lost refugee in the mojave wasteland and being sold / given to a bunch of unhinged drug addicts, and imagine that your entire family met this fate all in front of each other. Maybe not the most evil technically on the list, but something about Dermot's ledger and reading him improving his slaver craft, and recording the horror the slaves went through and how Saint James says "You got his book? Dermot, this bitch got your book! She got your book!" makes me more uncomfortable / creeped out then anyone else in fallout.

[@duderitoz6953]

I made sure to feed him some 00 buck at the first opportunity

[@mcbdllc2848]

Yeah those guys cook cook violet and mortimer always get their face blown off

[@historicflame972]

Dermot at least shows some degree of standards, James is just crazy

[@timothyharris1125]

St. James might be worse than Cook-Cook cause he's a speculated sick Pedo, The game doesn't even punish you for offing them either.

[@theextracrispycolonel9502]

The wild thing is, Cook-cook probably doesn't even know he's literally the most evil person in the wasteland

[@moondrip2163]

He just has fun with what he does best, no need to flaunt it over.

[@mossysalad3772]

“Fell in with Raiders unknowingly.” Haven’t we all been there?

[@hyvedubz]

I’m actually surprised Dr. Braun isn’t here at all? Bro literally trapped 10 people and tortured and killed them over and over and over again for who knows how long.

[@rickardrakkoon2500]

Preston has to be the absolute most undercover evil NPC. He represents never ending entropy and hopelessness. No matter what you do, ever...... He will haunt you with one more settlement needing help...

[@TKsMantis]

Another great video, my dude!

[@Rad_King]

Woah, cool to see you here. Thanks, I appreciate it!

[@jetfoxproductions]

you gave me a new perspective on Tenpenny, i really thought he order the destruction of megaton, because i never got that dialog in all my playthroughs.

[@CunnyMuncher]

I dunno, it also kinda sucks that he was naïve and didn't listen to his HoS. The Tenpenny Tower questline was a direct reference to the dangers of incompatable immigration and its destruction of its host, since if you force the immigration of ghouls, all the humans die.

[@ashleygarratt4961]

I feel sorry for Clover in fallout 3 so mentally broken by Eulogy that evil is all she will know says a lot more than words ever could about him.

[@Umbra_Ursus]

I'd feel worse for her if the woman understood how her gear works: Charon has a sniper shotgun and treats it like one, Clover has a glorified melee weapon she's convinced is a sniper rifle. The only companion to get reloaded more than her is Butch.

[@AlqhemyA]

@@Umbra_Ursusif you give Butch a sniper and some 308 rounds, hes literally a headshot aimbot most of the time. hes cracked bro

[@bigg.3466]

The Karma associated with a quest I didn't understand was the Tenpenny Tower quest with the ghouls. I specifically went out of my way to find a peaceful solution so that ghouls and humans could live in peace...only to find two weeks later in game. That the ghouls murdered all the humans for no reason and were quite happy about it. I proceeded to kill all the ghouls who supported murdering the peaceful humans that were there...and I lost karma for some reason.

[@june9914]

Fallout 3’s karma’s a swing and a miss sometimes lol. Afaik the default state of named npcs have their karma set as Good, either as an oversight, or so the contract killer perk isn’t limited two killing regulators and slaver hunters

[@angeloluna529]

The karma system in the fallout games are shit, they don't make any sense. It's a good thing karma doesn't make any impact in new vegas since they knew it was such a poorly implemented system.

[@theoutlander1411]

I think Roy Phillips should have been flagged for evil. It becomes clear after interacting with him that his sense of hatred and entitlement isn't born of someone responding to unjust discrimination. He does offer one of the best quest rewards in the game though

[@OhNoTheFace]

It's dumb. It's the one quest you are better off just not doing

[@TalosBjorn]

That quest was Todd Howard's way of sharing his views on mass immigration without coming right out and saying what they were

[@barbaricboi8905]

I feel like being a bored old man imo is even MORE evil. He doesn’t have a purpose to kill yet he just fires down on anything that moves from down there? There’s almost no way to convince him to do otherwise BECAUSE there’s 0 purpose for it. He just wants to do it. Idk, I feel like that makes him a lot worse than ya might think.

[@PunkRaider]

Feels like Cutter and Pronto don't have the option to escape considering they wouldn't likely survive alone out in the Capital Wasteland. Especially with the deathclaws nearby. Also them turning hostile doesn't make sense it was probably an overlooked aspect. Leaving Paradise Falls empty felt like it was supposed to be resettled but again this was a first attempt at making their own Fallout game by Bethesda

[@istrumguitars]

I didn’t realize off hand how many of the evil karma characters in Fallout 3 are motivated solely by caps.

[@Innetna]

4th time "watching" this video. I put this or some other videos made by you on and fall asleep instantly. You have a very soothing voice.

[@youtubeaddict487]

lol yes

[@polarmizz]

Azrukhal wanted Greta dead because she is Carol’s partner, and Carol had been depressed due to their adoptive son, Gob, leaving Underworld. He wanted Greta dead to make Carol more miserable and depressed to encourage Carol to use his alcohol and chems to make money off her suffering. Just making his evil even more depraved. He mentions this in his terminal behind the counter.

[@nitobeato4056]

It’s so funny how Burke just gives up on killing so many people just cause a random woman flirted with him, I know he gets no play

[@xSmuggen]

14) Typical Book of Vile Darkness Owner 13) Hypocrite "Oath" Taker 12) Too Dark for Their Own Lore 11) Like Terrible Father, Like Terrible Son 10) Make the Wasteland Great Again Ringleader 9) The Grotesque Gourmand 8) Unfortunately Spared from the Big Iron 7) The Giant Tool Wielding a Giant Tool 6) Madman Manager with a Taste for Man 5) Bartender as Ugly on the Inside as he is on the Outside 4) The Perverse Pernicious Pimp 3) Jack of All Tortures (A Real Sick Puppy) 2) The Wolf of Mean Street 1) Stay Away From Hard Drugs, Kids.

[@FlymanMS]

Just imagine Burke played by Di Caprio

[@timothyharris1125]

Dishonorable mention: Saint James of westside, Dude is a Human Trafficker and a Child Molester

[@richardarriaga6271]

6) Madman Manager who Serves Man

[@bendavis3778]

Great video as always Radking. Glory to Atom Maybe sometime in the future you could do a video on some of the most evil people in Fallout, judging by their actions, background, and motivation, rather than just karma

[@TheWhiskySix]

Half sure cook-cook would still be pretty damn high up there ngl

[@TheMrsmartass13]

I think for Cutter, the reason she wouldn't wanna leave could be, she understands the relationship she has with the slavers of Paradise Falls, and knew if she went out and was caught by other slavers, they wouldn't treat her as "nice" and probably killer her before she could showcase her medical skills.

[@LongLiveLiberty]

I off’d cook-cook with ease the first time, but then reloaded to try to spare him to no effect so I was forced to wipe him out, to later realize what he did to others was so dark/evil, which then eased my concerns on off’ing him. Later, after a big-game-reset, cook-cook on hard-mode became an actual problem to deal with.

[@Cosmic-Sorceress-17]

It felt so good dusting every Slaver in Paradise Falls: every Slaver disintegrated is a blight on the wasteland purified. I also make it a personal goal to prevent Vulpes from leaving Nipton with his face unmelted: sometimes I'm just not strong enough to handle it, but it's never for a lack of effort. I almost forgot about Cook-Cook... And honestly, that's for the better. Someone who truly deserves to be dusted and forgotten.

[@scpinformationandinvolveme6079]

You would make a great regulator or minuteman

[@tylerlackey1175]

Unbelievably cringe. Dude probably thought he looked like Ryan gosling while writing this 😂

[@scpinformationandinvolveme6079]

@@tylerlackey1175 Hey man, who wouldn't feel like wasteland John Wick after killing all the slavers in the game, especially when you literally are wasteland John Wick, you are the protagonist, fate of the story revolves around your actions and from the npcs you are some kind of war God. I'd like to see Legate Lanuis or Cornel Royez clear out Quarry Junction. Fallout is all about starting at the bottom and becoming a living legend. In fallout 2 you do start quite literally in a dying village, let the man have his catharsis, video games are above all else supposed to be fun... Supposed to be... fuck you Bethesda... greedy bastard...

[@DirtyDev]

18+ Reddit karma

[@DirtyDev]

@@tylerlackey1175lol exactly

[@st.anselmsfire3547]

I love how the programmers for Fallout New Vegas just *knew* that you'd kill Vulpes Inculta on your second playthrough and accounted for it. It's amazing how the game twists itself to seamlessly handle that.

[@MediumRareOpinions]

They had an eye for detail, it always amused me that if you irradiate Cottenwood Cove, the raft will be crewed by a Legionary with a Radiation suit on.

[@highlordlaughterofcanada8685]

Who said anything about killing him on the second playthrough? I killed him on the first one

[@xqzqcv7950]

Never killed him, never saw a reason to. His request seems reasonable enough, and as a courier spreading news is nothing out of the ordinary

[@richardarriaga6271]

​@@xqzqcv7950Sometimes you gotta return to sender

[@firstnamelastname7244]

The only reason I didn't kill him is because he and the other leigonares are super tough to face at such a low level

[@Westsideaviation23]

"Sharp knife. Sharp knife to send him to deep temple. Flay and say my words. Abdul comes again, on the feast of the weaker. Feast for the Deep Temple. Born again, here. Alhazred G'yeth G'yeth."

[@Westsideaviation23]

Best quote

[@twofacedmgrim]

Loved recruiting Charon from Azihdal, especially once you tell Charon that Azihdal is no longer his boss

[@KalousTheGuy]

*see radking ignore a Chinese assault rifle* "Hey! Pick that up. There's a guy in Paradise Falls that needs those rifle parts"

[@grapesoftime]

Like the comments said, there are a lot that should be on the list HOWEVER... one npc I dare say is ideologically even more evil than Mr. Burke and honestly was a little shocked to find him not on the list even by the game's karma system.. Where is mister Daniel Littlehorn? Now, to our knowledge, his actions might not be as bad as Vulpes or Eulogy or Burke.. But he is definitively THE agent of evil. I wouldn't be surprised if Littlehorn was meant as a reference to the devil, his weird organization, obscure goals, and seemingly only caring about keeping the wasteland down by offering a bounty on any and every do-gooder

[@atwspoon]

Excellent channel, just found you! Watched a chunk of your content the past few days. I really appreciate your thoughtful take on things. It means a lot to consume your content. I played new Vegas before I had kids. I love my kids, but I recognize my time playing games is now a previous time part of my life. Now I have no time to actually play. Listening to your content during breaks at work helps me experience Fallout 4/76 and remember 3/New Vegas. Thank you!

[@lolz_fivz]

Thats wholesome, i wish the best for you and your kids

[@lolz_fivz]

Thats wholesome ,i wish the best for you

[@GnosticAtheist]

I did play one psychopath run where I killed everything that could be killed. Except Cook-cook. Killed all his friends, but I did spare his cow. So in that world the only thing left is a man and his bovine.

[@moondrip2163]

They'll procreate to rebuild the world with cow men. How? Cook-Cook will just keep trying until it somehow works.

[@deadnead1034]

I always adored the mystery of Charon on a character he's just the middle person in others is conflicts

[@jaredrobinson7071]

Loved this video RADKING. Love your intro as well.

[@violentmankey4910]

Another quality upload to make my job fly by

[@thebigdork8030]

Man Jamie just casually walking up to some capital wasteland raiders and just asking to join is wild. Do they take a day off putting heads on spikes to recruit?

[@thebigdork8030]

Now how did Cutter save up money as a slave, she basically paid the slavers in their own money.

[@aidenluckey9957]

never forget guys, oliver and sasuke from naruto are voiced by the same guy

[@riden1234567]

fun fact, I never knew vulpes inculta was a high ranking member of the Legion until much much later. I always just killed him and his entourage right away because I hate the Legon that much. Even that guy who gives you the mark of Caesar isn't safe from my hatred of the leagon

[@MockOverdrive]

Cook-cook ain't got shyt on the Toaster from Old World Blues... 🔥 👿 🔥

[@highlordlaughterofcanada8685]

My money is on Cook-Cook

[@JudgeHolden2003]

Mine is on Dr. Braun from Tranquility Lane (Fallout 3).

[@mitchm4992]

I think you got the ranking right, given this list of people, but it's absolutely wild that the game doesn't have Caesar ranked Very Evil.

[@Big_Bubba_Gaming]

@Neisse tbf you do gain good karma when you kill certain legion members

[@semi-useful5178]

Caesar is ontologically correct.

[@Big_Bubba_Gaming]

@@semi-useful5178 in what sense?

[@semi-useful5178]

@@Big_Bubba_Gaming Because he acknowledges the truth of human nature unlike those fools that naively cling to the the ideas of the so-called "Enlightenment" which anyone with any degree of historical literacy will realize was simply a naked powergrab by the moneyed mercantile classes of Europe, who sought to destroy the Noble Warrior Class that rules over the sons of Aryas naturally in order to set the ground for the mass enslavement of man, utilizing the farce of "democracy" to gaslight and rob the Common Man of his rights and wealth.

[@el_baz00ka10]

@Neissebut karma has an Overall morality system. So in this context, he should be evil or very evil

[@kaerstyx]

Charon instantly killing Ahzrukhal is hilarious tbh

[@tommytwotacos8106]

Jamie's karma being very evil might not be a function of who he was or what he did, but in fact it might be a consequence of where he is. You see, there are many different types of karma, including group karma, family karma, and area karma. A person conducts the energy of their surroundings and, as such, they slowly attune to its native frequency or a harmonic thereof. The place in which you are born hold particular influence in this fashion, and this is believed to be a function of the completely untuned and unblemished state in which we are born. Beyond that, our karmic energy most resembles the places we spent the most time. Each place causes us to retune slightly to it's own current, unless we're cut off entirely from conducting energy (what's known as having clogged chakras). Anyways, this is how karma was explained to me once long ago, make of it what you will.

[@jamariiion]

While i understand what you mean i think its more so because of the spirit that possesses jamie instead of anything else

[@saintdane9684]

I think Jotun hated the Slavers, but he had no where else to go, but stayed with his Dad because he cared for him, I’m thinking he hates the Slavers, because like it said, he attacks the slavers when his dad dies, not focusing on the Lone Wanderer, the killer of his dad

[@Porrast]

Hi. Maybe someone else already mentioned it, but the first case of Jamie is most likely reference to H.P.Lovercraft's "The Dunwich Horror" with elements from other stories (mysterious book, compulsion to do something, corrupting obelisk). Also, people, or rather victims, in his stories are often not evil and without any malicious intent. But I suppose you will accumulate very bad karma if you grant access to horrors beyond imagination or understanding... even if all you do is read a wrong book :-D.

[@mr.cauliflower3536]

My money is on the "give the player good karma for ending his suffering" mechanics explanation.

[@HenTieGuy.]

My theory is that Jaime has very evil karma for a gameplay reason instead of a story reason, so that you get good karma for mercy-killing him

[@Ratface0007]

There’s not a single npc in this series that makes me mad like Vulpes Inculta. Burning towns, forcing people to watch as others die, engaging in war crimes and subterfuge, and worst of all, hiding behind the excuse of working under Caesar towards a “civilized” Mojave. A coward and a monster in every sense of the word.

[@joewills7582]

Great video, amazing you can think of such unique videos for fallout even today

[@jacobc8019]

Vulpes’ first line will alwyas haunt me 😮

[@maxo.9928]

Thanks to Gun Runners Arsenal, Vulpes never leaves Nipton, if you catch my drift.

[@Mrmasterranter]

I dont get why Roy Phillips from Fallout 3 isnt very evil karma

[@Blueninja825]

Same, he is a xenophobic bloodthirsty lunatic who just wants to kill humans for no understandable reason. He even wants to blow up Megaton too. He even threatens to kill the Lone Wanderer just for suggesting a peaceful option.

[@dannyhernandez265]

@@Blueninja825 Roy is unhinged. He is one of the most evil people. After I saw what he did on my first play through helping him, I took Gustavo’s offer and took him and his crew out on my second play through

[@timothyharris1125]

That was a Bethesda Lore mistake and in fact he is evil but they accidentally Marked him as Good Karma.

[@redvariable4941]

Y'know with the amount of times I've played through new vegas you'd think I would have noticed the wild wasteland CSI reference induring the white glove questline. Almost 14 years old and I'm still learning new things about it

[@Autumn_Actually]

This is a great bounty list. Always have to take out those in the Mojave when I start a Vegas run.

[@Notenum_]

This video was amazing, please do more like this.

[@rayanderson5797]

I always thought Karma was a weird thing for the Fallout series. Post-apocalypse settings are often pretty grey, with even good people having to make questionable decisions. Seems like the wrong setting for a concrete moral code like that. It'd be more at home in your Elder Scrolls games.

[@FlymanMS]

Mechanically it’s pretty weird too, you can get super bad karma for stealing all that’s not bolted down but then turn it into Jesus level good by killing a dozen random fiends

[@CloudBlitzer]

​@@FlymanMSprobably why they scrapped the mechanic in Fallout 4. I wish they would have revamped it instead of just doing away with it

[@richardarriaga6271]

I mean killing all mutants with modified FEV is pretty evil, in fact killing everyone. So there are genuinely atrocious things in the wasteland.

[@Bread_n_Roses]

@@CloudBlitzer The system deserved to be cut, since it never should have been in the games to begin with. It's not the developer's place to put a label on what's good or evil in a series that is rooted in moral ambiguity. It doesn't fit the Fallout series at all.

[@havok2579]

It allows for exactly that. Your balancing of moral and immoral acts sets your wasteland morality. I wouldn’t change it

[@StridersBored]

33:08 this is hilarious to me. On my first playthrough of Fo3 I was first introduced to the IP of Fallout. I vividly remember the misery caused by that little turd and I was left with broken armor, weapons, and was drinking from any working faucet for health. The playthrough was extremely fun but I was stunted for the early game from the sheer loss I experienced from the fire ants. Needless to say I went out of my way to enslave him, took a picture of the dialogue screen, and my only regret is I didn’t find this out authentically

[@themaddoctor1741]

I’d love an inverse of this where u do the best people in Fallout

[@hadleyeby6065]

Keep up the good work and I love your videos it makes me happy

[@NCR_trooper-69]

im fucking tired of patrolling the Mojave just give us FNV2 already

[@Groovewonder2]

42:00 so you're saying Tenpenny is the paypig of Burke

[@__TK___]

My current courier came back from the grave, killing both NCR and Legion only to gain their trust back after meeting Benny in the tops and thinking I will help them at Hoover Dam only to get nuked by my courier after the end of lonesome road

[@kotzpenner]

Based

[@OhNoTheFace]

Vulpes is always amusing to me because the game gets real angry if you kill him before he does his tough guy speech. With possible guys attacking you almost immediately around the corner

[@gioflores7989]

Praise to ⚛️.

[@boobookachoo]

Glory to ⚛️

[@jacobgarnett1297]

Honor to ⚛️

[@Notenum_]

Praise to ⚛️

[@viper_1889]

Glory to ⚛️

[@MediumRareOpinions]

He is coming with the clouds!

[@bigshaq6634]

Karma is a weird element to have in a post apocalyptic world LMFAO

[@chriskuzianik9507]

Surprised Colonel Autumn wasn't on the list, to be honest. Or Father Elijah, for that matter.

[@Blueninja825]

Agree with Elijah, disagree with Autumn. He isn't that villainous compared to others within the Enclave. Also this list only includes characters with very evil karma.

[@MangoMonster34]

I loved this video! Even while I’m playing I like to hear stuff like this!

[@seanromine3932]

Are we sure Tenpenny was after the power suit? I always assumed that he or Burke had hired the mercenaries to perhaps get the detonator and additional parts to set off the nuke in Megaton, given she sheer amount of the nukes found at the base.

[@IndustrialFan666]

My favorite Fallout KZbinr talking about my favorite quest in Fallout 3 I appreciate that so much, the Dunwich stuff and Point Lookout are so cool

[@jiszle697]

What armor is that you have on your character at 00:29 ?

[@liamwelsh4665]

I believe it’s something from the children of atom. Maybe…

[@JorgePerez-xm2bf]

Great vid, u should do a list of people with very good karma cause we need positive vibes in the wasteland

[@FgyjtIngenieroEuropeo]

Honestly i am glad you did not included the AntAgonizer. Tanya does not deserve to be associated with these degenerates.

[@CloudBlitzer]

I really wish they brought them back in the Mechanist DLC in Fallout 4

[@pyroAdapt]

I remember being like 13 and playing this for rhe first time and when i stumbled across paradise falls i felt legitimately aick to my stomach. Seeing a child with a bomb collar on and knowing there were actual slaves was something i wasn't expecting even in a world as screwed up as fallout. I went back to my megaton house where i kept my massive arsenal of guns and ammo and launched a full on assault on the place and nobody got out alive except the slaves.

[@Wavy_Gravy]

Amazing video. Tbh, though, Bethesda makes glitches, not features. I fully believe you've put magnitudes more effort in this lore than they did, lol. Love em, keep em coming.

[@DuneRunnerEnterprises]

Well,that slavers den had apparently more lore,that i knew. Good job!!

[@Balevolt]

Swanick always catched a 20 guage to the back of the head in my New Vegas playthroughs. It doesn't matter what alignment I am I have to snuff out his excitement.

[@TexanHuman]

Ngl, I 100% thought Stanislous Braun was going to be on this list somewhere for torturing people for 200 years straight. I guess he just wasn’t evil enough for Bethesda lol.

[@thesolidgoldpenny302]

I hate cook cook, all my homies hate cook cook

[@fleacythesheepgirl]

I know Fallout 3 wasn’t written with New Vegas in mind but it would fit so well Charon was ex Legion. They love their contracts and I could definitely see them selling off a good soldier once they became ghouls. Charon’s extreme obedience like how Legion trains its soldiers. Think about what Ahzrukhal says “Charon grew up a very interesting group of individuals. They… well I guess you could say they brainwashed him”. Also if you call Charon a slave he gets angry and says “No he is not. Ma’am/Sir you insult me. I do not believe in slavery. It is an abomination.” sure Ahzrukhal could just be lying but if he actually does hate slavers I could see feeling that Charon earned his chains.

[@jayl5032]

The Karma system; with all its flaws and inconsistencies, is still a favourite mechanic in the games. I really wish they brought it back for 4. Hopefully it will make a comeback for 5.(or any future installment for that matter.)

[@angeloluna529]

At the current state of starfield, I hope to God they don't use the karma system in 5.

[@mr.cauliflower3536]

I think a better solution would be a general reputation system, in addition to local reputations. You will be considered evil if you're a known slaver, but if you're a covert contract killer, your reputation will not worsen, since you did not get found out.

[@tommcdaniel9554]

At the rate they're going, Bethesda will eliminate all player choicee from Fallout 5.

[@jimmyfrench4722]

I’m sure Corporal Betsy appreciates the promotion you gave her.

[@Vandelberger]

Jotun and Ymir are interesting names for a slaver…. Ymir is the father of all Giants, who are most of the time chaotic beings. Jotun is Norse for Giant.

[@TeRenner123]

Where os Odin when you need him

[@Vandelberger]

@@TeRenner123 Probably killing Ymir, lol.

[@CloudBlitzer]

I imagine those two would seem like giants to the slaves.

[@desertdude540]

It's obviously the traders at the 188 Stop 'n' Slop because they never have anything good for sale.

[@emobirb2302]

i love Vulpes

[@Definitely_Dave]

17:54 did anyone else need to do a mental double-take when he silently repeated “ultra-luxe”? That caught me so off-guard 😂

[@themadman5615]

I feel it's fairly obvious why Cutter has evil karma... It's because she's a Cap-italist. I'll see myself out.

[@phineasbogg1318]

Nice video! Will you do a “Most Neutral NPCs” video next 😅

[@ashleyneku5432]

Yeah, I don't know. Cook-Cook's stories are more vicious in a half-hearted attempt to make him so deliciously evil everyone wants to put him down because they couldn't make the Fiends a more attractive faction to work alongside, join or factor in when deciding how to end the game. For my money, Eulogy is just a tad worse. Cook-Cook burns a child, sure, but Eulogy regularly sticks bombs on them and buys them and sell them to people who can do just as bad. He also psychologically breaks two women into a form a servitude that sees them both willing to die for him. His desire to form a literal breeding stock of slaves is awful in so many ways. Eulogy has layers upon layers of cold evil he hides behind a civilized businessman persona. Cook-Cook's just a Raider with a fancy flamethrower.

[@meltydude3340]

I'm with you! I thought fo3 had some really messed up characters by a long shot. Rather easily discovered too. And easily joinable (burke right out the gate of f03, Jericko being a literal ex raider right out the gate as your first possible companion, Slavers joinable faction..)

[@mcbdllc2848]

Nah they are both equally evil one is just reserved the other not so much Sociopath Psychopath respectively

[@sirlight-ljij]

KZbin autocaption is adamant that Alastair lives in a 10 Penny tower