Who is Wapeach? A Complete History of a Gaming Mystery

[@NantenJex]

Because the original source for Wapeach has now gone offline, I thought I should share some of the now lost comments from that post here. The comments that I didn't find a place to include in the video: - "I was planning on moving the cone-shaped parts of the ears.🤔" - "If the symbol was a chain, it might not be too scary.🤔" - "It might be interesting if she were a descendant of a fallen royal family...🤔" - "If this hadn't been scrapped, she might have existed.🥲" [when discussing Wadaisy]

[@Sor3e]

Wow that’s cool also this was on my recommended great video!

[@HeartAino193]

Well, if Wapeach were to become real, I'd suggest that she would be like Ashley from the Warioware series personality wise where she would be a witch princess of a dark kingdom who would use an axe as her main weapon that would turn out to be her pet black cat and demon familiar with similar powers to that of Ashley's demon partner Red. Her kingdom would fall due to lack of faith and she would be a fallen angel doomed to rule said fallen kingdom.

[@Whimsykit]

"if this hadnt been scrapped, she might have existed" thats..... how scrapping works

[@DarkReaper12]

"cone-shaped arts of the ears"? She's got them little Gremlin ears too!?

[@markcrawford5810]

It's painful how you can pronounce Wario correctly, but not Mario.

[@ArendAlphaEagle]

Honestly, one could rework Wapeach to be a character that would boss people around, but no one would take seriously (which makes sense, since she's a child and probably not even a real figure of authority like _Princess_ Peach). Wapeach may think Wario and Waluigi are her goons, but Wario and Waluigi are more under the impression that they're supposed to babysit her.

[@Zetact_]

Ironically that still retains a Doronjo inspiration because the Yoru no Yatterman spinoff they focused on a new Doronbo Gang where Doronjo is a child and Boyacky and Tonzura act as like uncles to her.

[@jediapc226]

So basically someone along the lines of TronBon from mega man legends

[@Khanclansith]

The Little Sister tagging along and trying to boss her brothers around came up in a conversation with a budy looking at the art

[@theartdragon1270]

@@jediapc226same with princess devilotte from cyberbots full metal madness

[@mariotheundying]

@ajayr1383 I don't think Wapeach wants to be the wife of Bowser and mother of Bowser jr, which are Bowser's goals when kidnapping peach

[@ARDIZsq]

Man, I NEED Wapeach to be a real character now. I LOVE this design! She gives the impression of a bratty and violent child, contrasting with the refined and peaceful adult that is Peach.

[@Doracake]

What about other current characters like Hellen and Grape?

[@IAspie-o1g]

She now a mod for mario kart wii and you can get her over at gamebanana.

[@DidYouKnowGamin]

Great video -- love the thorough research! Regarding the possibility of a 'WaDaisy' character: In 64Dream's July 2000 issue, the Takahashi brothers explicitly mentioned giving both Wario *and* Waluigi girlfriends. We had the interview translated earlier this year for a DYKG video: S. Takahashi: We wanted Luigi to have a partner like Mario and Peach and when we asked Nintendo “who can we go with?” they said they had this girl called Daisy already. So we thought, if Mario has a girl to be paired with, it would be pretty sad for Luigi if he didn’t get a partner too (lol). H. Takahashi: From there we talked about giving Wario and Waluigi girlfriends too, but Miyamoto said that he “didn’t want to see Wario and Waluigi’s girlfriends.” (lol) S. Takahashi: You can more or less imagine what they’d be like (lol). Part of me wishes we had pairs so everyone could do couples doubles matches. H. Takahashi: You would have seen Wario’s girlfriend if only Miyamoto gave us the go ahead.

[@NantenJex]

Ah, that's basically a more detailed version of the Nintendo Power interview in August 2000 (maybe 64Dream is where Nintendo Power got its information from)? Although Aoki-san said that he hadn't heard of a Wadaisy ever being mentioned so maybe this was just an idea that the Takahashi brothers kept to themselves?

[@Sjono]

15:51 “It started after Waluigi was designed and accepted by Nintendo with relative ease.” It made it seem like designing new spinoff Mario characters was such a breeze

[@GameTornado01]

Literary genious

[@drbiohazmat]

I think Wapeach could have worked with inverse roles in a way. Wario and Waluigi are their own bosses, but she tags along. While the guys do their own thing, she playfully helps out, possibly often making it harder for them unintentionally

[@Doracake]

Then we need a new story about their relationship. Problem is, even at this point we don't have any official game that is about Wario and Waluigi. So that's kinda bothersome whether Wapeach can even get her own game if she is official.

[@ruikirisame1744]

she's the freeloader

[@aedaniammx7559]

I’ll be honest, I never really cared for the idea of a Wapeach, but I actually really like her style. I don’t know if she’d fit in thematically with the other Mario characters, but maybe seeing her in action would change my mind. I hope she was gonna be MEAN, real boastful with a fragile ego, something like that

[@jamiegioca9448]

I think she should be named "Weach" instead. It kinda sounds like "Witch", guess it would suit the character well

[@GoldenYoshi1]

That's actually brilliant ngl

[@littlebigb5370]

This may be my own interpretation of her character, but I think Ashley has become what she could have been. A young, adorable girl who is used to getting her way and is mostly harmless while so unless she becomes annoyed (or bored), in which case she unleashes terrifying punishment on anyone nearby. Her and Wario DEFINITELY are not love interests. In fact, they don't even interract with each other hardly, and at the most, he acts somewhere between a boss she doesn't respect and an unwilling pawn to her whim. Syrup is also a GREAT candidate to bring back as a "Waru-Peach" in an official manner since she seems like she's to Peach as Wario is to Mario.

[@INFERNO95]

I wonder why there no Wario characters in mario spinoff games?

[@DomLaBeau]

This is the hard-hitting Wapeach-related journalism I’ve come to expect from KZbin, god bless you sir.

[@michaelroque2662]

I really like the Wapeach design, if her design was tweaked a little I can easily see her as an evil Jester girl to counter Princess Peach. I imagine her personality as more mischievous and tricky, with a proclivity for cartoony violence, maybe a little similar to Justice League Action’s version of Harley Quinn. She’s still young and childish but has moments of unhinged menace. Her name shouldn’t be Wapeach though, give her some kind of clown like name, Pierrette or something. Her costume should be black to giver her an original color. Show that all three members of the Wa-gang will have original colors.

[@PrinceLandon]

I’m wondering if Grape from PP Showtime will have a true humanoid princess form. I’m hoping so, and that she becomes a regular playable spin-off character. Having an evil princess would be so cool, even if it’s not a WaPeach.

[@DarkReaper12]

The true WaPeach was the Captain Syrup we got along the way. Still, the idea of a bossy brat trying to run the show with Wario barely tolerating or listening to her feels oddly on brand. Like, she'd be clever enough to come up with schemes to gain gold and impress her would be subordinates, but Wario's the one actually calling the shots and leading the group. Leaving WaLuigi to desperately try to calm the kid down when Wario's callousness sets off a tantrum.

[@zenvariety9383]

I think most people would agree that Captain Syrup fits the role.

[@H4rdlex]

@@zenvariety9383 Well she is kind of similar to what an evil Peach would look like anyway, and she is an actual character from the Wario games who they have been sitting on for years so she is kind of related at least.

[@3DoublePoint]

Captain Syrup and Pauline look kinda the same, She looks like a counterpart to Pauline, like Wario to Mario.

[@INFERNO95]

Instead of people making videos about a peach clone that was canned they should be making videos why Wario characters have not appear in mario spinoff games.

[@amigomorton5193]

I personally would prefer for her to have a different name than Wapeach, or anything that doesn't need the "Wa". Maybe something in the direction of like, "Thorn"? "Mold"? "Grimace"? Just something that closely follows the naming scheme of the other princesses (assuming Wapeach is supposed to be a princess), but still tells us that she ain't leaving Santa's naughty list.

[@Big-Image]

How about Prune?

[@micahfurlow2624]

​@@Big-Imageprune is a pretty good one

[@yorihimewatatsuki7983]

If it helps, the name she was given in the concept art, ブリーチ, would be Preach...

[@DarkOverlord96]

Weach

[@Valcuda]

I think Clover would be a good name, since she's meant to be Warios girlfriend. It's not "in your face" garlic theming, since most people will think of the plant, rather than "Garlic Clove".

[@sharzinlalebazri5673]

There is an artist called Dr. Spade and his / her take on the character (renamed to Apricot) made me fall in love with taking a "sassy, short tempered pipsqueak" direction with the character.

[@NantenJex]

Yeah, I've seen that art piece, I really like it. Apricot as a name for Wapeach is really clever.

[@INFERNO95]

Problem is daisy know for being sassy and having a temper.

[@wariopide]

​@@INFERNO95Yeah, but due to her personality developed in the side games. Not into the mainline ones. So it wouldn't have been that much of a problem anyway.

[@isleling5191]

I waited years to see this design no joke i heard about wapeach getting scrapped back in the day and the design is better way better than i imagined

[@benmalsky9834]

I mean, just look at her! She’s adorable!

[@KagepazRequiem]

She's a gremlin 😅

[@benmalsky9834]

@@KagepazRequiem No she’s not.

[@BlazeElHeraldodelaTormenta]

​@@benmalsky9834she's a smol mean bean ^^

[@hicuptheandroid9766]

She's so adorable and yet deadly ugh now I have to wonder if she'll ever be in a game soon now that we know

[@INFERNO95]

Nope.

[@common_skeleton]

I’ve always wondered if we got Wapeach if it would have just been standard for human characters to have a “wa” variant. Imagine Wadaisy, Warosalina, Wapauline

[@ScoutTF2Gaming]

"Bye, I'm Wadaisy."

[@GaminGuy_]

imagine wawario

[@eforaffort]

What if Wayoshi existed

[@MetroGexual]

@@eforaffortthat’s just Boshi

[@StarMan881Gaming]

Would that mean Waboshi is a good guy?

[@Sombra_zx]

Wapeach could have a Partner being Boshi as a Equal and maybe Boshi Having a Cat Species that is like poochy but on a Cat that only wants Fish or cat toys, Wapeach being a friend of Bowser Jr from the School being the Scary little Cousin of Peach

[@TheCartoonGamer8000]

18:30 Interesting story about that - they're more based on the trope "Sanaku" (or "Three Evils"), which Time Bokan did lay the groundwork for, but TR's creator has said he used the TB trio as a jumping-off point to make TR easier to grasp, then they became their own thing soon after. But I don't anna take away from what was a great watch. You dissected the story in an easy to follow and entertaining manner in a way that no one else could be bothered to. Good stuff!

[@Rubberman202]

Well, it looks like Nintendo got to poor Fumihide Aoki, because he took down all the Wapeach stuff and made his Instagram account private. Thank goodness videos like this exist to preserve all this.

[@EdmacZ]

His Instagram got torpedoed entirely. It was a worthy sacrifice.

[@mariotheundying]

Nintendo: "hey wth bro"

[@Uesr2004D]

Wait..? Did nintendo actually delete his stuff?

[@EdmacZ]

@@Uesr2004D Yep.

[@sahaprocks7751]

@@EdmacZproof that it was Nintendo themselves?

[@Twillek1019_]

They could’ve added Boshi in Power Tennis and then Wapeach would have a partner.

[@m8.614]

That last part of the video... I think you have hit the nail head on, it's too late for a character like Wapeach to ever exist while keeping her ties with Wario because it just doesn't work, Wario is not that kind of character and he would never have that dynamic on a fundamental level.

[@904funny]

Remember that Linkle was a cut character from Hyrule Warriors who actually got into the next version of the game after a lot of fan demand…

[@Wingedlight-nn4hl]

I think if Peach ever got another game where she is the main protagonist again after Princess Peach Showtime then maybe WaPeach could be revisited and be either the main antagonist of that game or someone who tries to challenge Peach throughout the game since she is Peach’s self proclaimed rival and I think her personality would also be larger than life and over the top as well to contrast with Peach’s more quiet and reserved nature as well.

[@KLGB76]

We could still have a way to make the dynamic work in some capacity while keeping Wario's personality. What if Wapeach was introduced as Wario's daughter? A child that he cares so much for that he ends up obeying her every orders without question.

[@aband0nware]

this is genuinely the best suggestion ive seen so far and now im losing it at the idea of wario literally just stumbling across some lost child and deciding "you're my daughter now" without even considering to look for her parents

[@maverickdarkrath4780]

​​@@aband0nwarehonestly 100% a wario move an action that in any other context would sound noble...and wario screws it up by not even asking if shes actualy an ophen while shes to busy being spoiled to even bring it up...would be more funny if it never directly addressed but always made it a running gag that the two can never keep there story straight, waluigi just her cool uncle who in on it just because its fun

[@simnm8057]

I think wapeach should be an adult because i feel like we should have an adukt human character that is shorter than mario

[@geschnitztekiste4111]

@@simnm8057We have E Gadd…

[@simnm8057]

@@geschnitztekiste4111 okay itll be nice to have one that is a girl okay (I forgot that egadd is actually a human)

[@Waluigiisbest99]

does anyone else find it weird that this was revealed 19 years later out of the blue? prob nothing but what if this does actually lead to something in the future. Peach def should have an "evil" counterpart for the spin off titles.

[@ethanhinton4549]

Some theorize the villain of the upcoming Peach game is based heavily on this character concept.

[@lindenwong5393]

You mean Bowsette?

[@jaco8822]

​@@lindenwong5393a canon "evil" counterpart for the spinoff titles that won't have players playing with 1 hand.

[@zenvariety9383]

​@@jaco8822pretty sure Captain Syrup already fits that role being a female Pirate.

[@jaco8822]

@@zenvariety9383 fair, however i'm 95% sure she's mia along with everything else in wario land.

[@Mr._inconsistent]

I would love the idea that wario and waluigi were just babysitters for wapeach 15:09

[@raygagnon4809]

I have a feeling that she would had been adopted more by Wario and Waluigi, Wario only having her for her use in the future for gold but Waluigi actually do care about her and try to raise her to be whatever she wants, to be like them or whatever she wants, could be a cool character idea and I see that personally as what I see.

[@motxmod]

Oddly enough, the concept of a child-like Doronjo would later be used a decade later in Yatterman Night, the Time Bokan 40th anniversary series.

[@zenvariety9383]

Knowing Nintendo if they were to introduce a bad version of Peach they would just use Captain Syrup. Captain Syrup is a gorgeous female Pirate who uses her beauty and charm to ruthlessly steal treasure while commanding henchmen. Not only that, but she uses her wit when her flattery doesn't work.

[@geschnitztekiste4111]

This! I was happy when they introduced Pauline back into the main series back in Odyssey, I wish they brought back Syrup too! Maybe sometime soon…

[@3DoublePoint]

She actually looks like Pauline but that could work

[@Limit02]

What this video has made me realize is how formative Mario Tennis 64 was in defining the Mario spin-off cast, since the need for doubles partners seems to be a big part of why Daisy, Birdo, and Waluigi are cast mainstays now

[@masteroflight7296]

Just based off of the design, she looks like a kid. I can picture her as being a bratty and snooty princess who believes she’s better than everyone else and constantly flaunts her royalty to get what she wants.

[@trashmouse94]

I had an idea that instead of following the typical convention of having wah in front of the name, Peach's counterpart could have the p reversed into a b, making her princess beach or bichi-hime to Japan's pichi-hime. She could contrast peach's kind, passive, and loving nature with violence, aggression, and spiteful hate, always acting like she has sand in her boots. I also just think it would be fun if this beach got past the nintendo censors.

[@conradojavier7547]

Now we need a Wowser who's a Nice King, & Wowser Jr. As a Friendly Woopa Prince.

[@kennydarmawan13]

Fun fact: The idea of WaPeach being the Doronjo type with that design would actually be canon in Yatterman Night. Go look it up. And heh... the concept predicted Yatterman's sequel series there.

[@StoryTeller796]

I wouldn't mind if Wapeach was basically turned into a character that is apparently less evil than Wario, Waluigi, and Bowser on her surface. From the perspective of everyone, including the audience, she just gets through life by trying to emulate Peach's niceness. She even takes losses she percieves to be fair with dignity and grace, which really weirds out her partners Wario and Waluigi. However, after a certain bad day, she immediately flips and acts like a spoiled brat that nobody takes seriously at first before proving to everyone how much she's really been holding back. She's not a Peach copycat no matter what her act could've told you beforehand, she's her own character with a horrible mean and petty streak and a workaholic attitude that she constantly prides a perfect society and a perfect sense of self-presentation, which she throws temper tantrums if no one else follows along with her idealism. She takes Peach's innocence, and gives it a dark "Either you are with me or you are against me, and trust me. *You don't want to be against me"* And redesign her to be a bit more tired and having to force herself to look more physically like Peach and Daisy. Maybe even just give her a black and white design that contrasts Wario's and Waluigi's Purple and Yellow focused design is.

[@Doracake]

That sounds kinda like Ashley?

[@StoryTeller796]

@Doracake Darn it, that's how Ashley is like? Actually, if Nintendo was to create Wapeach the way I described her, how much would she narratively in terms of her role as a character overlap with Ashley? If she's basically a clone of Ashley, then I'll scrap this idea entirely, if she can have some unique moments of pushing Peach's character in some places, then I wouldn't mind having her around, if she's actually a genuinely different character that can stand on her own two feet, then I want her to do so.

[@Doracake]

@@StoryTeller796 Problem is we don't know what happend in NIntendo's inner decisions. They definitely had tons of scrapped ideas and WaPeach is just one of them. Nintendo likely don't want fans to talk about their abandoned plans because that would bother their future projects. There is also chance some of the old designs have transformed into something else. Maybe WaPeach was a prototype for other later characters like Shadow Queen or Princess Shokora. But we won't know as long as Nintendo don't tell us. Anyway WaPeach is leaked, and Nintendo must abandon her now.. If she wants to revive, she has to change her design and backstory entirely.

[@Masterge77]

Technically, I'd make the argument that Peach already has a "bad" counterpart in the form of Bowser, though most wouldn't make that argument because they see him as just that, as Bowser. Admittedly, if Wapeach is the "bad" Peach, what would a "good" Bowser look like? Now that's a question I don't think anyone has thought of before...

[@montyturner6511]

It honestly sucks that Wapeach didn't come true.😔

[@RHM087]

With the bang swept across the eye, I do have to wonder if Wapich's design inspired Rosalina...

[@INFERNO95]

Nope. Cameltoe make mario tennis games not mainline games.

[@Alfenium]

​@@INFERNO95LOL!

[@azurewarrior2000]

There also another detail about her from Aoki himself, he also thought about her being a descendent of a fallen royal lineage.

[@hardcorehunter7162]

Doronjo has a half dozen forms but the cat mask from is her most iconic one. The 2nd most iconic is the one that wapeach is inspired by, it's about a 1 for 1. As well they had a series come out where Doronjo has a descendant named leopard, that is pretty much wapeach but with a cat mask. I do like the idea of wapeach finishing the bad guy trio, as many anime were inspired by time boken. However I fully agree with Miyamoto that she needs to have a unique enough look to her. Like Jessie James and Meowth copy the same formula, but they look unique enough that you wouldn't draw the comparison till you see how they act in the show.

[@thebratwurst]

I could totally see Wapeach getting along with Wigglers

[@edgardeitz5746]

Mario - Wario Luigi - Waluigi Peach - Wapeach or Shroob Princess (M&L rpg series) or amnesic biker Peach (Valiant comic book series) Toad - Nemetoad (look up a series of short films called "Toad's Rage" or "Toad's Fury") Yoshi - Boshi (SMRPG) Birdo - Birdo (left is Yoshi's girlfriend; right is her evil, transvestite brother) Nabbit - Croco (SMRPG) or Popple (Superstar Saga) ...

[@annonymousannonymous9586]

If Nintendo wanted to have bad versions of Princesses Peach & Daisy, they could make characters & name them Mistress Leech & Mistress Hazy, they wouldn't be royalty, but they wouldn't be children either, but they would be opposite to Peach & Daisy.

[@Tako258]

Wapeach is so cute it's a shame they never added them

[@Silly_Sulky_Seli]

I think it'd be cool if there was a Wadaisy as a sister to Wapeach and they could be two bratty kids or something (so they can be eachother's tennis partners) or just thinking about how Wario wouldn't just be her goon, maybe he and Waluigi just become their caretakes of these two and try and teach them to be bad

[@INFERNO95]

No.

[@montanajackson3713]

I think it’d be cool to have wapeach reworked as a boss or ally in a future wario land game.

[@StarryDom]

I'm glad i found this video, cuz the question of where Wapeach came from was driving me insane after i suddenly started seeing art of her in many places

[@H4rdlex]

Funnily enough, a couple of years ago the time bokan series introduced a child version of Doronjo in Yatterman Night with a similar concept, just a funny coincidence now seeing the final design and how that would have gone full circle if that had ever happened That said I did expected a Doronjo look alike seeing all the comparisons the Waru bros had to her lackeys.

[@cubxelgame]

I love so much the design of the character ! she look so much like she was going to be Wario's annoying niece that alway get angry if you give her what her want

[@Machinemayhenem]

Who is WaPeach? I'll tell you this its definitely NOT Daisy, never has never was never been & never will be thank goodness.

[@M567dk]

Great accurate in this information. Still, between this and Bowsette something tells me that the higher ups at Nintendo needs to reconsider how fans enjoy these characters that they deny. Sometimes it would be nice to see the Big Nintendo acknowledge the fans and their enthusiasm for these fan Characters beyond their own ip.

[@INFERNO95]

Bowsette is a stupid meme that was never real. What wrong whit you?

[@wariopide]

​@@INFERNO95A stupid meme, which at the time made a lot of share and hype, even taking out the whole stupid things and NSFW. It was all around this princess bowser, a female villain. Sure, all thanks to a power up, but still, a villainous princess.

[@axelsonicsson7160]

I used to call Waluigi Ruigi when I was younger and now I still sometimes call him that

[@EnigmaticMrL]

As interesting of a topic Wapeach is, I think it's for the best that it never came to be. Waluigi has, for all practical intents and purposes, been relegated to just the spin-offs with no unique role. Just filler, yet another playable character in multiplayer-themed spin-offs. While he works well as a joke character IMO, another character resigned to only spin-offs might have been too much.

[@quangamershyguyyz7166]

Daisy, Birdo, and formerly Toadette who are all resigned to only spin-offs…There’s no good outcome that comes from Wapeach never being made

[@kirahhdrop]

3:41 RIP 😔. This is actually such a good concept.

[@paintedpig3021]

As a Time Bokan fan Wapeach's design reminds me more of Marjo from the original time bokan series, funny enough another series in the Time Bokan franchise called Yattodetaman has a villain who's a bratty child prince and in Yatterman Nights the main character is Doronjo's descendant who's a little girl.

[@jourdonpatron212]

Wadaisy did exist before Mario Tennis was even developed. She was in that Mario manga that Nintendo published.

[@ExtremeWreck]

Wapeach looks like a character from an obscure PS1 platforming game that was developed in Klundert, North Brabant & was only released in the Netherlands in 2001 before some company like XS Games or Mud Duck Productions released it in the US for $10.

[@moxaIien]

I imagine it cos work out if the dynamic would be changed. Like her being like team rockets meowth and tagging along as the a litte smarter of the three characters still being mean but not the boss. That could then be put inro the manga and other newer games like a new mario sports game and a new mario party with her aswell. I honestly hope (even if its impossible) That thos design would get used because just by all of this shes my favourite mario character already! (Couldn't she get also paired with rosalina? as a friend type of dynamic to make it interesting that one of the "bad team" characters would have a good friend?)

[@Fightarcade]

First Omelette, now WaPeach?! Things are just getting interesting!

[@EWOODJ]

Isn't Omelette a fan character?

[@barttheraven]

That design looks like the robot girl with the pony tail from Mighty No 9.

[@Yoshizuyuner]

She looks more like peach in a cat suit

[@3DoublePoint]

She kinda Looks like "Star vs. the Forces of Evil" from Disney

[@SonicTheCutehog]

It makes sense that they scrapped Wapeach for Waluigi. Since Luigi is Mario's partner, it would be more logical to make Wario's partner a Wario version of Luigi.

[@paulgilbert5278]

This was Power Tennis not Tennis 64. Waluigi was already established.

[@wariopide]

They scrapped her for Daisy. It's even worse.

[@maxtubb]

I remember playing Tatsunoko vs. Capcom on my Wii around mid 2010s and seeing Doronjo's henchmen for the first time and thinking to myself "her henchmen look oddly similar to Wario and Waluigi" and years I found that Wario and Waluigi designs were actually inspired by Doronjo's henchmen.

[@victoriagrayson5082]

*Who Is Wa-Peach? A Complete History of a Gaming Mystery

[@HaxHaunter]

"she would look too much like Doronjo!" How's that s bad thing? We got characters based on other classic ones in the past and people liked them. If everyone had the same mindset as Miyamoto, Johnny Cage and Fei Long would not exist at all. Besides, Wapeach could be like a cute ojou-sama type of character that tries to be mean and bossy but ends up being cute and people like Wario and Waluigi would not take her seriously.

[@Uesr2004D]

Wario and waluigi are bowser allies, right? In spin-off games we saw them teamed up with Bowser. Would it makes sense that wario and waluigi join the bower army besides of joining with Wapeach?

[@INFERNO95]

​@@Uesr2004DThey not allies nor even like each other.

[@INFERNO95]

There this thing called lawsuit. Time broken is very big in Japan and been around longer the mario. Nintendo also got shew by Universal for donkey Kong having the same last name as king kong. It clear you don't understand how the world of business works.

[@edgardeitz5746]

Now compare Doronjo and her henchmen to the *Pokemon* anime's Team Rocket (Jesse AND James); include the talking Meowth as well, as this is pretty much "Sailor Moon and Tuxedo Mask turned into Doronjo and her one henchmen", making the other hench the same as the talking cat. As for the partner problem, the solution is found in a short film series made like a low budget DBZ clone; Toad and his evil counterpart (the Nemetoad) are drawn like sayians. Look up "Toad's Fury" or "Toad's Rage" to see _most_ of it, as a few chapters seem to be lost... :(

[@JezElectro13]

Someone, please make a fan project where Wapeach is a character.

[@JasLamArr91]

She doesn't look that bad, but honestly, she doesn't need to exist cause Wario and Waluigi are enough

[@geschnitztekiste4111]

Waluigi doesn‘t either tbh, Wario is a loner and would never share anything, so him having a partner in crime doesn’t even make sense

[@3DoublePoint]

But will it make sense that wario and waluigi teamed up with Bowser? Besides "Wapeach"

[@NotAGoodUsername360]

Hilda is one of my favorite Nintendo villains, I hate how we don't get evil princesses or even evil queens in the girlboss era. Wapeach looks like such an adorable brat. I would love a Mario game with her as the villain bullying Bowser and threatening to annex the Mushroom Kingdom so there's a logical reason for Peach and Daisy to be playable protagonists.

[@INFERNO95]

Why would bowser let anyone bully him when he a big bully himself? Why would anyone want iconic mario characters getting bully by spinoff filler characters? Do anyone play mario games outside of spinoff games?

[@toast_busters]

I find it interesting that their bad variant of a Mario Princess is basically the bratty bossy little girl archetype. I think it's actually a really clever way to go, because it's still an appealing character and still fits within the Mario universe. It also works in a sense similar to how Wario does: Princess Peach is much more mature, calm, composed, and proper; this character is also a princess, but immature, presumably loud, snotty, and selfish. I think if they went the route of making a character that was more disgusting, brutish, or even sexy, it would feel very out of place compared to they rest of the Mario cast. It is a giant shame though that she won't probably be canon bc Nintendo has a habit of burying ideas they don't like and hiding things they want to revisit until they think we are ready for them. But I think the concept is sound and considering we live in a timeline where we still don't have Captain Syrup or any of the Ware characters in a spin-off game... This is probably the closest we ever got and ever will get to some sort of "bad princess" in the mainstay cast. 😕

[@Doracake]

Yeah, I feel like if NIntendo don't want WaPeach, they should make use of other existed characters better. We've not seen Syrup for quite a long time.

[@NitwitsWorld]

We doing great soon Miyamoto will notice the fan mail in Nintendo HQ about WaPeach 😅

[@alejandrogonzalez4242]

I have known about Wapeach for a while, as Waluigi was created to give Wario a partner for Mario Tennis 64 and the creation of him would lead to the idea of creating other foil characters. I never knew though that there was an attempt for a Wapeach, though. And given how her concept model is rather high-quality, it does look like she was not made for Mario Tennis 64 (if she was for 64, then it would be less poly). Also, the charatcer design of Waluigi being based on an anime was very left-field, and how Wapeach extended on those references.

[@jaimedelena5575]

I thought Waluigi design was inspired by Dick Dastardly from Hanna-Barbera classic cartoons! They both resemble each other for being a bad version of a villain, but I learned that Wapeach was inspired by Doronjo, a Japanese classic cartoon!

[@ericriley1985]

It's quite possible that Dick Dasterdly is an INDIRECT inspiration to Waluigi: namely, Dastardly was a DIRECT inspiration to the Doronbo gang (Wacky Races was very popular in Japan). And since Waluigi was inspired by the Doronbo gang, Dastardly is an indirect influence.

[@jaimedelena5575]

Also the character Goob from the Disney movie “Meet the Robinsons” also resembles Waluigi in a sort of way becoming an evil looking villain!

[@ztsquid3000]

Honestly, in my opinion, they should have her as the main villain for a Mario game. That would be a good change of scenery, right? Or, even better, maybe a Princess Peach game, I'm just saying. 🤷‍♂️

[@Doracake]

But you know Grape is the villain, so that opinion would be applied to Grape instead?

[@ztsquid3000]

@@Doracake fair point

[@benmalsky9834]

You know what Wapeach’s personality description reminds me of? Nimona.

[@anonymous-rq2lh]

i like to headcanon that in a universe where she was canon, her name would’ve been princess plum (bc y’know. it’s a purple stone fruit that’s smaller than a peach)

[@hippyhopohskippydop5792]

5:03 maybe the parallels between Wario and Waluigi versus Mario and Luigi are still in play with Wapeach it’s just the opposite might be gone in a different direction maybe at the time, peach was considered, polite, very mature. Perm and proper So assuming based off of that exemption her opposite would be rude, childish, and unproper I kinda like it she gives off little sister vibes in a annoying way

[@Uesr2004D]

Her Character design looks awesome ❤😊

[@samusismyhero]

I feel the closest thing to wapeach nowadays is Ashley from Warioware. Not an exact match, but shares a few similarities.

[@il-dottore]

There’s also Captain Syrup from the Warioland series

[@INFERNO95]

Ashley is better and should be in spinoff games.

[@daehan8227]

Come to think of it. Maybe she would appear if we can finally get a Wario & Waluigi rpg series or a single spin rpg

[@linkspokemon4114]

We do have evil version of peach... It's Pink Gold Peach ;)

[@klowell19]

well Nintendo had a second idea for Luigi's SM64 model which was suppose to be a second player character for a canceled sequel called "Super Mario 64 2" for the Nintendo 64 Disc Drive like others games example being "Banjo threeie" but due to the disc drive's failure they canceled the sequel

[@garygiles3464]

Wapeach looks quite similar to Rosalina design. But i wonder why they never considered to use Maple Syrup and Pauline as additional human characters. But i can see Wario Waluigi and Maple Syrup being a trio

[@lisbonmapping8425]

Damn, you've got your finger on the pulse with this one.

[@arutezza]

Tbh i expected her to just be what bowsette ended up being so i guess its nice to see another sorta fan character

[@brutusmagnuson315]

I was thinking Wapeach could be green and themed around lizards and dragons with a bossy personality and Wadaisy could be purple/blue and themed around spiders and insects with a cocky and mean personality. Make one tall and lanky and the other chonky and short. Bonus points if the chonky and short one is hot-headed. Make both fight with the “Wa” brothers like angry old married couples. Pair the chonky strong one with Waluigi and occasionally use him as a weapon.

[@springtrapstarwar5557]

i really loved wapeach design.

[@scottlemay3386]

I think Nintendo screwed up. They should have added her in. A lot of Mario characters seem to be based on other characters... and wapeach could have tried to join their gang and always fails.

[@INFERNO95]

Lawsuits are a thing in Japan.

[@Doracake]

I think Mona and Ashley are very original? Or you mean you don't like the current characters?

[@wariopide]

PLUS, They gave a chance to daisy. DAISY. The one who was Peach 2 in the mainline games where she appeared, and that got a schizophrenic characterization...

[@Vaporwarecompiler]

Shigeru Miyamoto Has arguably made his fair share of Regrettable bad decisions throughout his his career, But the biggest one I would say is denying the world This MAGNIFICENT character: Wapeach.

[@INFERNO95]

Grow up.

[@wariopide]

Not only, I would add: -Approving Daisy -Waluigi -Abandon the Wario Land games Just that for now.

[@LandonEmma]

It's not "Waru" it's "Warui"

[@VestedUTuber]

Nintendo: "We don't want to see wapeach, she wouldn't be cute, she'd either be gross or a ripoff of a known character" Camelot: "Ok" Character designer from Camelot, decades later: _Posts concept art for wapeach, who turns out to be really cute and NOT a ripoff of a known character_ Nintendo: "...we may have made a mistake here..." Yes, I know it's most likely that Wapeach came significantly later. I know I'm probably speculating here but I feel like this version of Wapeach wouldn't actually be that different from what Camelot originally had in mind - I talked more about that in my other post but to summarized: the wa-characters are visual exaggerations of the their heroic counterparts, Peach is supposed to be cute and dainty, therefore the exaggeration of her would literally be a somewhat chibified version of her, like what we see in the "unofficial but made by an official source" concept art.

[@xXSKY64Xx]

Considering the look of the model, you can tell it was made for the GameCube and not the N64.

[@LandonEmma]

Bro called "Shokora" "Shokoro"

[@kiwikarp9509]

Tbh, I really like the idea of Wapeach and her design, but I'd want her to be completely separate from Peach. It would be fun to have a character that looks innocent but has the tendency to get angry or even violent.

[@zvgamingandstuff7633]

So Blanc from Hyperdimension Neptunia?

[@kiwikarp9509]

@@zvgamingandstuff7633 No idea, I don't play creepy fanservice games.

[@zvgamingandstuff7633]

@@kiwikarp9509 well, now that seems harsh.

[@RedwindAndBeyond]

@@kiwikarp9509oddly specific.

[@MeesterTweester]

I like the design :)

[@beterbomen]

That explained a lot. Thanks!

[@thelasttoknow]

With a few tweaks we could probably see her. Just make her from another planet or galaxy like other villains or Rosalina. Plus I love the early 2000s vibe cartoony sweet, edgy and dangerous. She would work great in the rpgs as well.

[@mogusisfunny]

I think it would be cool if she was a villain for a Wario game. Maybe she would steal his treasure trove, or something.

[@WakoDoodle]

If they added wapeach.l, along with waluigi and wario, they would resemble the "Doronbo gang" from "time bokkan : Yattaman" which inspired team rockets jesdie, james and meowth. Tell me if this is familiar, a loud and bossy girl lead a tall lanky guy with a moustache that invents thing and a short muscular slob, to create cheap buisness ideas to scam people out of their money to help fund their robots to take down the heroes and beat them to the latest prize. Not exactly the same, but it's proof that if wapeach was added they would work perfectly as a trio. Even just for party games.