5:40 seeing 3 valkyries on the field looks so cool
@darkomiku8902 Жыл бұрын
True! Cool shot
@shiirouNA Жыл бұрын
definitely one of the tougher bosses cuz of the black hp gimmick, makes the team rotation messy so you have to adapt to it
@Alsongww Жыл бұрын
God damn bar keeps making me have to switch to my nearly SS kira
@eiarsan Жыл бұрын
The black hp bar is by far the stupidest gimmick in honkai.
@YamisRandom Жыл бұрын
IM SAYIN
@uwu-chan Жыл бұрын
I hate how I’m forced to use Kira, her SP regen sucks, she’s boring and her attacks are slow. I don’t get how people can play her.
@tsuki1606 Жыл бұрын
@@uwu-chan SS should fix her sp, but...yeah, SS Kira lol Mine is still S2 and I can't rank her up until next week
@arekusu2799 Жыл бұрын
@@uwu-chan her SP regeneration is locked behind S rank and SS rank
@kuuhaku9318 Жыл бұрын
@@uwu-chan believe it or not, with ss kira, i started having way too fast sp regeneration issues where her ultimate started reading too fast it stopped me from using normal qte, so i had to to change my rotationing a bit
@Hiken_Bakuzan Жыл бұрын
Guess we all have diff opinions here For me, the worst boss to date (been playing for like, dunno, 1400 days), is SSS Pishacha, no other boss has made me hate it so much, these black bar bitches are tame in comparison (for me, and that includes the SSS MA version) Pishacha is not even a Susannah boss, its a fucking Griseo boss, and it also deals SO much dmg in such a short ammount of time, that you can't even stand still for 2 secs to deal dmg without it taking half your health
@nicholas6171 Жыл бұрын
As a 1900 days player, the worst boss for me is the 5 shielded padrino. They're fockin hard to kill But totally agree with piss-chacha, especially since i got 0/4 susannah, haha. That shiet needs a full gear griseo and susannah for good score. What a rip off
@tsuki1606 Жыл бұрын
SSS Pistachio vs my 0/4 Sus with no Senti
@nicholas6171 Жыл бұрын
@@tsuki1606 F 😭😭
@evolu104 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for pointing this out. I am 100 percent with you on this. I don't remember much of the fight with the black bar twins other than bringing Kira out to take care of it. I didn't know who you were talking about until I searched the image of Piss-cha-cha and it was instant PTSD. You hit everything that I felt.
@bluechicken8626 Жыл бұрын
The thing with Honkai is that when I build a decent team to counter a specific meta the game just introduced a new mechanic. Damn I can't keep up with the pacing. Like yeah sure I can clear it but damn the black HP gimmick is so frustrating
@andiwijaya5492 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. now for me, does'nt matter about score if i clear and reached all rewards
@KINGhotaru11 Жыл бұрын
😆 that's gacha for ya
@akilun Жыл бұрын
I felt physical pain seeing sushang with hua weapon instead of hers lmao
@ronniemartinez8034 Жыл бұрын
I felt even worse seeing Kira with Eden's weapon... 😩
@Thinhago Жыл бұрын
I feel that pain everyday since i have her 3/4 lol
@tricksterpuzzlehead Жыл бұрын
@@ThinhagoME TOO!!! I pulled in her banner to get just her weapon and i actually get all stigmas but no weapon😢
@mikaelle4200 Жыл бұрын
@@ronniemartinez8034it actually works pretty fine
@ideenlos1058 Жыл бұрын
@@ronniemartinez8034it’s less of a score decrease considering this boss doesn’t NEED freeze
@Kazuki126 Жыл бұрын
Yessss been waiting for this video thanks you this will help me a lot 🤩🤩
@watercat9475 Жыл бұрын
it’s nice to see Starchasm getting a “good” score, hopefully i can get her one day so i have all seele battlesuits
@tsuki1606 Жыл бұрын
Man, another boss added to the "hated bosses list" 💀 If they want to keep this black hp, I hope they add more characters to counter that disgusting mechanic Question: who's better? Sushang 1/4 (weapon) or SS HB 3/4 (only missing T Turg)?
@su.7f Жыл бұрын
sushang no doubt
@sleepyracoon9861 Жыл бұрын
Sushang have better buffs from her kit
@andrewarthur4059 Жыл бұрын
no fr, aponia boss and this boss is literally the worst
@suzuku2798 Жыл бұрын
Based on my own experience running 1/4 sushang vs 4/4 SS HB, it depends on the rank of your sushang. If she's at least SS, then sushang will 100% be better, but before SS you'll probably have to do a bit of testing. Yes sushang's kit has stronger buffs, but HB has a faster rotation, which can lead to faster clears if your sushang doesn't have ranks/gear.
@rajamrifqi5764 Жыл бұрын
the SS requirement to use kira is so stupid, like other than spenders most people are still stuck with either s1 or s2 kira this week
@saimyintmyat9373 Жыл бұрын
Every SP units are like that tbh.
@nicholas6171 Жыл бұрын
I mean, spender is what the compay looking for. What's the value of having f2p players?? I'm f2p too btw, with 0/4 sushang and kira.
@saimyintmyat9373 Жыл бұрын
@@nicholas6171 for Ice supports I'm only doesn't have Kira full sets. Maxed gears Sushang during her debut.
@nicholas6171 Жыл бұрын
@@saimyintmyat9373 i see, glad to know.
@jaeheonchung8329 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Marisa, trying to grind hard to stay in Red Lotus for 2nd Artbook...
@GuyWithAnAmazingHat Жыл бұрын
Honkai mechanics have become exponentially bad this year, if a mechanic requires a literal wall of text on screen during the fight, it's a bad mechanic straight up. Not just this black hp bar, I was completely taken aback and paused my game during SSS Aponia's wall of text, and then there's also Sussanah's bleed boss. Whoever is designing these bosses need to stop.
@nicholas6171 Жыл бұрын
Looking from a business perspective, i think they should continue instead since while it seems that most complain about it, it'll gives a clearer and easier advantage for cash players. Thus looking at the advantage they'll get, it gives more incentive for them to pull (as it allows them to win with smaller investments than on common valkyrie such as HoH or eden) As for me, i really hate this boss, but at least I'm on nirvana right now and i rarely intend to stay there as my f2p ass rarely can get 4/4 full team, lel. Still a shietty development for f2p tho.
@jgierer12 Жыл бұрын
@@nicholas6171 From a business perspective they should look at the success of their newer games where f2p can realistically clear 100% of the content. They've proven that powercreep/p2w isn't necessarily required for people to keep pulling.
@GuyWithAnAmazingHat Жыл бұрын
@@jgierer12 Yea powercreep is no longer the meta, they've already proved it themselves with Genshin, whatever they're doing now with Honkai mechanics just isn't the way
@nicholas6171 Жыл бұрын
@@jgierer12 you mean the newer game which doesn't lean towards competitive play like honkai, which also got different target of consumers, which also got different scale of number of players? Well sure, why not use the same formula right? Lel
@mleong75 Жыл бұрын
@@jgierer12Gets boring real fast tho. Since you need the game to remain extremely f2p friendly, it means the difficulty has to be extremely easy. Which it is in GI and gets boring. Not to mention stalling mechanics on most of the bosses that just waste your time and make the fights annoying in a bad way.
@lastday7648 Жыл бұрын
Got 400+ with an awful Kira than watched your vid switch back to pardo got 660. Such a lifesaver.
@barkatpharmaceuticals6080 Жыл бұрын
Moriso a real chad for still featuring AKA. Rita my beloved 🖤
@cabeglasgow Жыл бұрын
The amount of grinding and forcing my way through without kira and using HoR was painful
@saimyintmyat9373 Жыл бұрын
Actually you can use Mobius too since her dmgs are direct dmgs.
@bokuwal0licon232 Жыл бұрын
never in my life i hate a boss this fast. who ever made this deserve to be send to hell
@saimyintmyat9373 Жыл бұрын
This ain't nothing compare to what Kallen Triple S rank will look like.
@weirdfish09 Жыл бұрын
This boss is rank 1, then abyss and MA Aponia second
@eatyacereal Жыл бұрын
@@weirdfish09 you got my vote
@asytarnaoto264 Жыл бұрын
the black hp bar literally is confusing, but for crystal, we hv to endure it
@nicholas6171 Жыл бұрын
People be saying this is the most hated boss while every version we got such boss in this last 2 years. Paralyze sushang, frozen hephaetus, img otto, and the latest bleed creeper. Lel Totally trash development
@tsuki1606 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget Tankponia 💀
@nicholas6171 Жыл бұрын
@@tsuki1606 oh shiet, i forgot that shiet hahaha.
@miao_.3932 Жыл бұрын
also Kosma 💀💀
@eff-fume Жыл бұрын
As someone who flip Flops between Red lotus and agony 3 as a mostly f2p and sometimes low spender I thought getting kira to S and her weapon was enough. But no it had to be ss bcs currently her ca doesnt even remove the bar entirely and the sp Regen is absolute dogshit for my entire Team now. Hoyo turned one of my favorite teams (ice with hohe) into one of my worst performing ones in one patch bcs they decided pardo needs a replacement (and I rly liked her playstyle more also). My hohe is also only 3/4 and S0 and she suddenly feels so weak nowadays... Im saving for horb full gear so I cant be arsed to spend my crystals on a gimmick char like kira just so I stay in redlotus consistently.
@minhpham159 Жыл бұрын
May i ask, how could your Ego get around 120sp with first rotation? Mine only get about 98 when i first switch to her after Kira ulti and charged attack
@MarisaHonkai Жыл бұрын
S rank kira? Her ult only gives team sp starting at ss rank
@raymondjohnbuayan3090 Жыл бұрын
I actually enjoyed fighting this boss. It has a weird rotation because of how Kira stays on field longer before going back on standby after her QTE. She can apply her buffs/debuffs before your active character use their ult/finisher and still be able to switch to Kira afterwards.
@y.se-won6711 Жыл бұрын
Where is Marisa getting the HoH sp From, mine is fucking empty all the time
@MarisaHonkai Жыл бұрын
Need ss rank kira xd Her ult only gives sp at ss rank
@clear9721 Жыл бұрын
Me before I found this video: 465 max Me after: 755 max
@kageemo Жыл бұрын
How do i get rid of the black bar i am confuse
@anton68518 Жыл бұрын
2:38 HoH with Pardo 8055 :D
@rook7968 Жыл бұрын
I have 12/12 HoHe, JK and SSt + 3* Elysia ELF but I can't insta ult on HoHe what am I doing wrong? After QTE I have to CA x2 + skill x1 before I can ult
@ap0llogetic427 Жыл бұрын
Me and my 0/4 A rank shigure Kira trying and failing to remove the black hp bar last week 💀💀
@justincase4859 Жыл бұрын
7:38 why people empty hor charges? is it for sushang qte?
@MarisaHonkai Жыл бұрын
Each shot triggers willow sp regen. So faster sp for ult
@justincase4859 Жыл бұрын
@@MarisaHonkai oh i didn't know that thx i think i need to read more
@ablanomor3050 Жыл бұрын
do u guys think it is worth getting the s valks from the battle pass and their weapons or are they outdated af
@andiwijaya5492 Жыл бұрын
Technically, every valk or gears appear in bp is outdated, but it is not like they can't clear or score against bosses/players
@tsuki1606 Жыл бұрын
Rn there's HoF, she's still really strong even after HoFi's release
@ZenFadexd Жыл бұрын
I'm kinda curious why HoTr middle on Silverwing rather than Signature
@fairsky9687 Жыл бұрын
bigger damage
@david_ace Жыл бұрын
hi, i have a question . i have eden pri and i want to know on kira : Jst T/M and Newt B or Turg T/B and mei M
@MarisaHonkai Жыл бұрын
Turg better
@david_ace Жыл бұрын
@@MarisaHonkai ok thanks you, i hve one last question :on sushang jst T/B + her B piece or turg T/B mei M
@MarisaHonkai Жыл бұрын
Oh both kira and sushang are ungeared. Then jst on kira, turg on sushang.
@david_ace Жыл бұрын
oh ok thanks i dont even got kira's weapon..i pulled and got another sushang gauntlet
@pedroadrianodeandrad Жыл бұрын
Hoyo needs to stop this. Every patch a different mechanic so they can "PROMOTE" the new valk. Its getting out of hand.
@jdrm3710 Жыл бұрын
For any pro players out there, even Morisa himself, for the f2p build, is Bastet TM + Newton B is best? Or can go full Bastet? I just don't know if the off-field freeze caused by Shigure Kira trigger's the Bastet's effect or not... Or does Turg TB work + something M work too?
@tsuki1606 Жыл бұрын
TM Bastet + B Newton should be fine TB Turg + Mei Beach Party works too
@jdrm3710 Жыл бұрын
@@tsuki1606 Thanks. Any opinions on full Bastet? I don't have weapon too btw... Completely no dedicated gear for her. 😭
@tsuki1606 Жыл бұрын
@@jdrm3710 Bastet full set should work too As for the weapon, you can use EoP pri, Tranquil Rhapsody, DoI or DoG if you have them PS: the other 2 builds that I said before could be better than full Bastet
@jdrm3710 Жыл бұрын
@@tsuki1606 I see, thanks. This advice helps a lot. Sad I need to skip her gears since I need HoTr to go home for trio and everything else.
@tsuki1606 Жыл бұрын
@@jdrm3710 just a recommendation, try pulling for her weapon It'll save you a lot of time, specially in teams that are not trio
@Kokomiii Жыл бұрын
this is pain to do in nirvana I've given up
@JunGaming_n_Music Жыл бұрын
Oh This is how to kill this boss:") I was using all attack lol
@hero43221 Жыл бұрын
for some reason, when i try to get rid for the black hp uhh the dmg seems not getting in to the main HP why is that? and i ended up with 200
@MarisaHonkai Жыл бұрын
Not enough damage? A rank kira? Is this the second black hp? If it still doesnt work, can just evade the third attack.
@hero43221 Жыл бұрын
@@MarisaHonkai let me retry again probably because if the kira A rank. because well, HOH with full bronya's G4 stigmata, sushang theresa T, sushang MB, kira (well trouble child) with forgor T, cecilia M, and Trug B. thankyou for the suggestion
@MarisaHonkai Жыл бұрын
@@hero43221oh a rank kira. Ye you wont have enough dmg. And I heard s rank also not enough dmg
@SUPAREALcutechickdGaming Жыл бұрын
I think I'm remembering this wrong, but is Mobius capable of HP loss damage, too? Or was that scrapped or doesn't work here?
@myiyi Жыл бұрын
yeah i think but you would waste a rotation since its only from her ultimate enhanced attack seq i think???
@kozezh Жыл бұрын
well, boss from the video will appear only with frost weather in abyss, so Mobius still will be worse than any of that teams
@vzx Жыл бұрын
>SS Rank Kira mHY: C'mon... just some pulls in event supply can resolve your SP problem...
@andiwijaya5492 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, for extra 20 crytal ( nirvana ) or 80 crystal ( Lotus ). definitely worth it lol
@jackyvalencia77 Жыл бұрын
This new gimmick will not stop me from saving my crystals. Sorry but Kira is not a favorite of mine. I’ll just buy her frags but that’s it
@geebeepman Жыл бұрын
me with my 0/4 kira: 🗿
@Big.Burger Жыл бұрын
And here i thought that img seed is stupid and then, jinx it man, here your big black bar Now we get complete set of ball and c*ck of annoyance
@reversal3628 Жыл бұрын
Can't even defeat these sh*ts in red lotus even having Kira.😂. I'd rather fight bloody jelly than this
@radityaprihandoko6523 Жыл бұрын
What make that black HP bar decreased??? Freeze? Ic damage?
@jasonkennedy5816 Жыл бұрын
Hp Loss, like kira charge attack XD
@jasonwang6188 Жыл бұрын
If sugary is not ss rank can’t one shot the black hp bar 😢
@Alsongww Жыл бұрын
Gonna rerun this shit until i get a scire over 700 with my s2 kira (signature weapon and Turg TB mei M)
@otakugh3344 Жыл бұрын
Noice
@Zombina638 Жыл бұрын
Can’t even do this as a f2p, esp how greed6 they r with crystals.
@BocchiTheBox Жыл бұрын
So who even are the characters that can do "HP Loss" or whatever that Black HP bar thing requires. Cause as far as I'm aware "HP Loss" literally just means damage I guess Hoyo has another definition.
@midianjoyaryantawira5480 Жыл бұрын
pishacha is so much worse than those black hp bosses oh my God 😭 (i only build elemental team)
@gameplaystorage3881 Жыл бұрын
Im Still using pardo
@Admiralaidz Жыл бұрын
Yeah im not replacing pardo for a single gimmick boss. I'll live with placing low for a week. Sorry kira but you're not getting any of my gems.
@dariosaviors Жыл бұрын
RL, 440 after a couple of tries, retained at 4TH place and called it a day. I hope I don't see that thing again too soon. That mechanic is just an idiotic selling instrument. I mean. Most of new mechanics are, it’s just they’re not as moronic as this black bar.
@syauqiamran2205 Жыл бұрын
Me with 300 score 🤡🤡🤡🤡
@icycreeperd8375 Жыл бұрын
This is actually one of the easier boss even if you have S rank 0/4 Kira (unless in Nirvana). Don’t know why everyone is so mad when other bosses are so much more annoying.
@Bstrdmn Жыл бұрын
Because they have to change their rotation to account for a new mechanic, honkai players just like to complain
@ZxBITtv Жыл бұрын
i just give up
@michaelpingol539 Жыл бұрын
Skipping the boss due to this hp mechanic.
@Fishman465 Жыл бұрын
Annoying mechanic in high end arena/abyss? must be tuesday
@عليالتجاني-ل6و Жыл бұрын
Who ever made invemt this mechanic he genuinely wanted us to enjoy the game. Still very horrible addition.
@andiwijaya5492 Жыл бұрын
You meant " hate the game" right, this is straight up horrible
@7WhiteSword Жыл бұрын
why do people still play this game anymore? it feels more and more like a scam… boss thick shield mechanic forced to use HoR with the world, boss bleed mechanic forced to use susannah, now this BS Black HP where you’re forced to use Kira… basically your valk that you’ve worked hard to build will get outdated in only 1-2 patch
@P4fuu Жыл бұрын
Most hated boss hoyo ever made (at least for me) ... black bar hp bar mechanic is the dumbest thing i ever see...
@adyscarlet2863 Жыл бұрын
It was so annoying
@dhruv3793 Жыл бұрын
omg first
@MarisaHonkai Жыл бұрын
Smh
@bbbbbbbbbbbrbbrb Жыл бұрын
this game has become truly too expensive to keep up with. fully gear a bitch out and she becomes mediocre in 9 months because of some ridiculous mechanic