Who Makes Mahindra Tractors?? 2023

Are all Mahindra tractors manufactured by Mahindra? Tractor Time with Tim reveals which tractors are made by Mahindra and which are made by TYM and Mitsubishi. National Farm Machinery Show 2023, #NFMS23
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[@hometowndiy9109]

I wish you guys could see the dealer side of Mahindra. They are an absolutely terrible company. At their heart they are a marketing company, not a tractor company. Their after sales support is largely non existent. The amount of parts I run across that they claim are no longer available or “not serviced separately” is mind blowing. We have a 1.5 old backhoe that became a paper weight a 5 months and there parts department said sorry no longer available, not our problem and washed their hands of the situation. Mahindra has some ownership of Mitsubishi and they have been telling us for years that all their small tractors will be Mitsubishi built. Their Indian built tractors are like old British cars, electrical nightmares… stay far away.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Who is ‘we’ and ‘us’? Please tell us who you work for, and therefore your bias. It will help us to provide context to your statements.

[@hometowndiy9109]

@@TractorTimewithTim I’m a parts manager for a multi line power equipment dealer. Our Major Ag lines includes Massey Ferguson, Mahindra, and Krone. Our major lawn and garden lines are Cub Cadet, Hustler, Stihl, Ariens and Boss plow with many smaller lines available to us. We’ve been a Mahindra dealer for less then 10 years but our Massey roots go back 50 plus years.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thanks much! That helps!

[@DLTJR1959]

@@hometowndiy9109 Local dealer here had Mahindra for 10 years or so as an add on to their New Holland line. I was friends with the service manager. Your assessment is correct. When the local Kubota shut down they took on Kubota. Within 3 years they dropped Mahindra. Same story, same song.

[@hometowndiy9109]

@@DLTJR1959 I’m going to jump for joy if and when we drop them but the problem is that while the Massy GC is a excellent sub compact, they don’t have a small frame compact line and their large frame compact can’t touch mahindras lift capacity. The whole reason we took on Mahindra was for the e max, max, and 1500/1600 series. Of course when your exploring the company they wine and dine you and they were desperate for market share in our area. By the time you realize how bad they are you have a couple hundred units out there and you can’t just drop them and you can’t stop selling new otherwise they’ll take the line, parts and all.

[@alex.w.kimani6921]

I am from Kenya and Mahindra is a simple bare bone but somehow they make the equipment in such a way that you can work long hours comfortably. I love their Small 1ton pickups. Beauty is not their strength but they make easy-to-fix machines that do not release plumes of smoke

[@fjb5263]

Is Barack’s family your neighbor?

[@alex.w.kimani6921]

@@fjb5263 Ha! Not even close, His Family is near a city 400Km away from where I live

[@fjb5263]

@@alex.w.kimani6921 nice. Are they as corrupt as he is?

[@alex.w.kimani6921]

@@fjb5263 His late father was an honest man. Barak never lived here. I just know he really loves war

[@fjb5263]

@@alex.w.kimani6921 war and money he is the puppet master behind joe

[@rockinbbar]

I've owned on of the Mahindra made tractors for about 3 years now... The 6075 Cab. It's been a solid tractor that has exceeded my expectations. I'm not a weekend warrior with a tractor, I use my tractors, and use them pretty hard, but take care of them. The 6075 is my favorite to operate, and I have over 1000 hours on it now. Parts availability has been good. No major issues. Love the no DPF or re-gen engine. I'd by another.

[@jeffmcdaniel5826]

I have a '23 6065 open station. Same tractor. After warranty it will be a 6075 with a touch of a button.

[@edmoody5822]

I am on my second Mahindra, and I loved both of them. Emax 22 HST for 5 years, only problem was a hydro leak which the dealer repaired asap. I wanted a little bigger tractor so I purchased a Max 26 last year, as it was a little larger and heavier. I can tell that the horsepower difference is substantial for little tractors. No problems after 1 year. As for my dealer, I have not spent one penny on maintenance on either tractor, and only one visit to the dealer for a repair. I really like the simplicity, I really don't need the bells and whistles, just the reliability. Oh by the way, I put Ken's bolt on hooks on both my tractors, and I love Tractor Time With Tim. Long time subscriber.

[@311hitwall]

Emax is not mahindra

[@Jo-tw8kr]

Love my 6075 and 2660hst. Both used hard for their purposes and have outdone their predecessors in green that were overpriced and spent just as much time in the shop as they did in the dirt.

[@zomday71]

The thing I love about your channel, is that you are always fair with everyone. Criticism is always thoughtful, and you always praise where it is deserved. Cheers, Tim!

[@pluckypurcell7186]

I have a 2011 4525 2wd without the loader and it's been a reliable workhorse. I just purchased a new 4550 4wd with the loader after looking at the Kubota L4701. Despite the negative comments from people that have never USED a Mahindra for real work you will notice that most Mahindra OWNERS that use their machines like them. Solid, reliable, heavy, and built like a tank.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

From these comments, I would not make the same generalizations you have made. What I see is: - owners who have had no serious issues are happy. - owners who HAVE had technical issues are 100% unhappy. You might think that is normal….but I disagree. With other brands, I see many owners saying “I had a serious issue with my tractor, but the dealer got the parts and had me back up and running quickly and smoothly”. THIS is the type of comment that means the most to me.

[@SLCOutdoors]

I have a 1526 and it is a Mitsu motor, I guess they built it, it works awesomely, no issues ever, and it out performs other tractors of similar size.

[@FlyingAceAV8B]

I own a 1635 shuttle shift and it is a very good tractor. I have done so much with it that I could not have done otherwise. Service at the local dealer is crap. I plan to keep this tractor for a long time to come. It's fantastic for my small property with a grapple and backhoe.

[@frankponte4031]

Great topic and detailed information as usual. Wasn't able to make the show this year but appreciate you bringing it to me with these NFMS segments.

[@firsttimefarmer]

Tim, It was great to meet you at the Farm Machinery Show. More great content. Thanks for all the follow up videos of the show.

[@dougcorrigan9200]

Your point about post sale support is accurate. I have a 2004 “Mahindra “ 3510. The tractor is actually a TYM with a Daedong engine and transmission. Daedong is parent company of Kioti. At 1800 hours the thermostat failed and the engine overheated and dropped an exhaust valve seat. I was able to cross over to Kioti engine parts to replace valves,one piston, water pump and thermostat at half the cost of what the Mahindra dealer wanted. Mahindra didn’t have any inventory and needed one month to get parts. Kioti dealer shipped same day. What a tangled web!

[@ShakeelAhmad-yp3vy]

🥵 India gane

[@kfelix2934]

yeap so true , a friend had one and they gave him like a 3+ month waiting for parts and that was with it expedited . Mahindra needs to up their game in post sales services. The best tractor that they had that was reliable and over 40hp was the Mahindra 575, you just can get one in the US and they never made it in 4x4 or with a turbo but that was a work horse and reliable

[@IHcubcadet]

Some great info there Tim. I was at my local dealership and pretty much came to the same conclusion looking at the labels of where they were made. Yeah I would totally not be comfortable buying something that was rebranded like that because of the future parts availability issues

[@tlookingfora5336]

I have a 2012 Mahindra 4035 HST 4wd. This tractor has performed every task and challenge offered. Normal maintenance only has been required. It was at the time a direct competition for the Kubota Grand L3940. Features like comfort ride seat, tilt steering, rear remotes, cruise, electronic actuated independent PTO (auto or manual), etc. Made by Mahindra, Mahindra engine, Assembled in TN. Better lift capacity on FEL and 3pt. I have a dealer nearby, and they have normal wear parts and fluids on hand and I can order anything else and have it in roughly a week (tree limb cracked open the blinker casing - operator error).

[@james_1.]

tata mahendra's are emotional love for indians , noo body never dissaps♡

[@pennylessplantation]

2019 4540 Indian made, no issues so far. Check bolts on occasion for tightness. Look at the history between Mahindra and International and it’s easy to see where the reliability in design and platform came from.

[@davelarman2151]

It depends the model size I believe. I bought a Mahindra because: 1) Had a close dealer. 2) Got a more bang for the BUCK!! (4 cylinder) 3) Avoided the need for regeneration. Have a 1640SS 4 cylinder with: Backhoe, box blade, pallet forks for $31K.

[@johndernberger1961]

Service and parts after the sale are / should be the primary consideration when making a purchase.

[@jimhancock5047]

Enjoyed the look behind the curtain! Sometimes parts can be a problem with the BIG players along with new pricing policy on old widgets.

[@ralphjelomono9068]

Thanks for sharing this info Tim. I have a 2007 Mahindra 6530 purchased new in 2009. It was aged inventory so got it for a very decent price. Some would even say cheap. It is a simple basic 2 wheel drive farm tractor with no loader and 8 speed standard transmission. Tough, rugged no frills. Been a great work horse. It serves a different purpose than my JD4066M which was purchased last year.

[@reeceedwards2509]

Don’t bring up the Belarus tractor

[@Pankaj-ki3zy]

​@@reeceedwards2509 My father Owned a Belarus tractor , pretty tough tractor.

[@joyceweaver6949]

I want to add that the main reason I like my Mitsubishi made Mahindra tractors (Max 26 xl, Mahindra 1626, Mahindra 1635 and Mahindra 1538) is that they are easy and comfortable to use and operate. In the winter they start as soon as I turn the key, so I don't have to worry about feeding round bales of hay to my large sheep flock or cleaning out the snow around buildings or driveway, etc. I have no mechanical issues and I have a very mechanical neighbor who changes the oils regularly for me. I had a Mitsubishi built small pickup for several years which got me interested in tne tractor line.

[@rancehess3458]

I also have the 1538 and so far it has been a good tractor.

[@timburton9514]

I love my 1626 shuttle. It does everything I need it to

[@MrPrash1234]

Mitsubishi Agriculture Is owned by Mahindra now. Mitsubishi and Mahindra are working to develop K2 series tractors which should start rolling out this year.

[@utubota5522]

For years I went to JD for parts for my Yanmar. Yanmar parts were harder to get, but since, in that period of time, JD rebranded the Yanmar tractor for its compact line, and JD did a much better job of parts supply.

[@darrylbuttar1039]

Great video and very well done! In the grand scheme of things this is no different than any other company/brand, they have utilized other companies to build tractors for them until they get to a size or demand where it justifies building their own. Deere has done this in the past and continues to do so in terms of not building all components themselves. Mahindra is in fact coming out with a new line of tractors in 2024 and they will be built by themselves!!! As a very large Mahindra dealer here we have absolutely no issue in getting parts any different than any other brand, from time to time there are delays and ultimately we go to bat for our customers in finding them somewhere if needed. Mahindra is a fantastic company to deal with!!!!!!!!!!!

[@scotthurst1776]

I have a Mahindra Max 28Xl that I got new in 2012 made by Mitsubishi. I have not had a single problem with it. I like the 1600 series currently being made by Mitsubishi.

[@rays2506]

I bought a new 2008 Mahindra 5525 with 6 ft FEL from Dave's Tractors in Red Bluff, CA. He's a super dealer. Great tractor. Great dealer.

[@Jagdtyger2A]

I truly liked the Mahendra 1948 Jeep clone. That was a real gem or at least it was until the company that purchased the Jeep company unilaterally ended the deal that gave Mahendra the right to make that model. Fortunately, the company simply changed the grill design and continues to make the Jeep clone

[@hasrataulakh]

they r even making a rubicon clone THAR here in INDIA, but apart from that the other cars are really great as well, they are built like a tank and have excellent interiors and features, they r leaving the koreans far behind .... even i recently upgraded from a Hyundai sedan to Mahindra XUV 700 , now hyundai feels like cardboard, i wish they start selling it outside

[@ChandranPrema123]

I mean Og Thar (Licensed Willys) was selling very low. But their jeep Facelift has sold around 150,000 Jeeps

[@dogpotter]

Thanks for sharing, I have an older Mahindra, mine is a compact model 3510 its built by TYM I purchased it used about a year or so ago and was well used but it does what I want it to do and that's not a lot. a little bush hogging, some box blading and loadering. very pleased with my little tractor. I was out at the dealer over the weekend and noticed the newer models are built by Mitsubishi, didn't realize some are still built by TYM. thanks

[@ripdinecola4755]

Any word on Mitsubishi selling their own tractor in the U.S.? I would love to see them back in the market, Mitsubishi makes awesome products!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I have not heard.

[@brandylan32]

That is bc Mitsubishi Ag is a Mahindra Company…

[@brucealvarez9263]

My Mahindra 1533 was made in Japan by Mitsubishi, no DPF, no regen. Loader and backhoe are USA made. I believe the 1538 I looked at the same time is TYM.

[@jimconnor8274]

Taylor rental here in Plattsburgh, n.y. has been trying to buy up most of area's compact tractor dealers to acquire more product lines. In doing so. Their product support has fallen backwards. Along with Mahindra warranty program leaving a lot be desired. People are fleeing to establisted dealers for their tractor support! Thanks again Tim for all Your insight.

[@ericlaker1983]

Tim what good info. Thank you. We purchased family owned Mahindra 2615, 2006 model yr I think. Mahindra has a really nice website to help with parts. I also found out was Mitsubishi tractor. . And cubcadet also had sold the same exact unit. We have our 1025r which I love dearly but the Mahindra is a nice to use but the deer is much more refined to use. Mahindra is a dozer heavy, and gear drive. Pretty solid unit really. There are places we're hydro trans works good but there are places gear drive is better. I found tiling the Mahindra works very nice over the hydro. Constant speed in sod ground. Thank you Mr for all the best content.

[@1guyin10]

From TYM you get "We are focusing less on rebranding". From what Mahindra said it's clear which contract is going away. My understanding from an insider is that the TYM built tractors are a large chunk of Mahindra's volume in North America, which is probably why they can afford to develop in-house replacements. That takes time though. Just building the tooling would take the better part of a year.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Astute observation. I’m gathering that it is well underway. …based on tone/body language.

[@ritterjon]

You and Ken sure have a great time when you get together. Thanks for the info. I enjoyed watching the Mahindra guys in the background worrying what you were up to. 😂 *Keep on tractoring!*

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I hoped you could see that. I’m telling you, this was NOT easy to record. They were incredibly unfriendly.

[@ritterjon]

@@TractorTimewithTim I could definitely see that in their body language. 😂 Doesn’t help their image when they shy away from the camera.

[@kdeckster]

@@ritterjon It was very awkward to say the least!

[@LedgemereHeritageFarm]

My 2538 had Twin Touch. It was the reason I bought it. I wish JD still made a solid no frills tractor that still had a cast iron rearend. The 4x1x JD were amazing

[@TractorTimewithTim]

These new machines are nice. Don’t get hung up over the cast aluminum. We just weight the tractor down in other ways.

[@LedgemereHeritageFarm]

@@TractorTimewithTim can that put a hoe on them? The JD dealer is a friend of mine and I bought a 5045D there. I also got a Mahindra 1635 & Max 26 from another dealer who is a friend of mine. I could spend a lot of time telling you the pros and cons of each

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yes, all deeres up to and including 5e can handle a frame mount backhoe. Do NOT use a 3 pt hitch backhoe.

[@LedgemereHeritageFarm]

@@TractorTimewithTim I’ve heard horror stories about 3-point backhoes breaking tractors literally in half, the top link breaking and the whole rig coming back up at the operator, never mind putting it on and off😳

[@DaileyWoodworks]

@@TractorTimewithTim I have the JD 4044r with the frame mounted 485a backhoe. It is the easiest implement to install/uninstall. It takes 5min both ways and is effortless....unlike my MC6 shredder which is a huge PITA

[@andrewgee241]

I love these tractor business stories. The globalization of tractor manufacturing is so interesting. But I would be highly suspicious of a Mahindra rep at a trade show saying they are going to start building all their own tractors. I've heard similar comments from Bobcat rep saying they will start building their compact tractor line in the USA. Currently they are built by Daedong the owner of Kioti brand.

[@hasrataulakh]

Mahindra is a superb company, and their Head Anand Mahindra is a great visionary too, i dont know much about Tractors in US, but i own Mahindra car here in India, and they are killing it in the cars segment, they have unleashed sort of a super mode in past 3-4 years

[@camshawn8883]

We have a 3616, Mitsubishi built about 7 yrs old. Only parts I have needed have been on the shelf at our dealer (consumables) or available in 2 to 3 days. I needed glow plugs last month, none available but our parts guy had a cross reference and some places to try. Call back if you can’t find any locally. I got the last 3 from Napa in the valley. Our dealer has been great. Had a couple of teething issues under warranty that were taken care of with no problems.

[@markmccoy1304]

Here’s my take. I was so close to buying a Mahindra 4540 the bare bones heavy solid Tractor but this is why I didn’t. In GA around the Atlanta area within 60 miles there were about 6 maybe more Mahindra Dealerships that told Mahindra to come get these Tractors off their lot. I was told Mahindra would not honor warranty work. Many Mahindra dealers were frustrated with Mahindra to the point they had enough of their bad business dealings. That was a big red flag to me. It was happening all over. However I always liked that old school gear Drive heavy Tractor. But afraid I would be stuck and frustrated after the sale. Not to mention resale value on these Tractors are horrible. Thanks for the video guys.

[@garymeyer3294]

That's exactly what happened with a dealer hear in southern Indiana. He said Mahindra wouldn't honor warranty. So, he told them to take a hike and is now selling another popular brand.

[@Slane583]

That rocker style peddle is the reason I avoided Kubota. Kubota's are great machines and are usually very reliable but they really love that archaic rocker peddle on their machines and it puts your foot in an awful position. The dual side x side peddles like John Deere, Kioti or my Massey Ferguson has puts your foot in a more natural position similar to driving your car or truck. As far as tractors go I think Massey Ferguson makes their own machines as far as the larger tractors go. Machines like my GC1723E look to be made by Iseki, at least that's what the info tag says on the inside of my ROPS bar.

[@IHcubcadet]

I agree about the rocker pedal. I way prefer the twin petals like on the John Deere over the rocker. It drives me crazy. It just seems so uncomfortable. I use my fathers b2920 and yea not a fan. Stepping on reverse is just awkward.

[@Slane583]

@@IHcubcadet Agreed. My father has a little Kubota BX he bought setup with a front mounted snow blower and a belly mower for summer use. Even he said he loves the tractor but he hates the rocker pedal.

[@rancehess3458]

Great video, very informative. I have a Mahindra compact 38hp that I bought new 3 years ago. The drivetrain and hydraulics are solid and I like that there is no DPF. The fit and finish is not executed well though. There is a standing joke about "Mahindra Pink" because the paint fades pretty quickly on the front loader frames. Mine is already turning pink and I faithfully keep it parked out of the weather in the center of a large carport. I have had small issues that could have been avoided with a little more attention during assembly. The hood didn't latch correctly, some bolts that hold the fender skirts on fell out (hard to put back), bad paint finish on the hood, defective air flow sensor, etc. Almost all of it was taken care of under warranty but it was the bother to take it back to get it fixed. One local dealer wanted me to pay the shop rate in case the warranty didn't cover the air flow sensor. I am not sure why a warranty would not cover a bad sensor when the tractor only had 15 hours on it, but they held their ground, so I found another dealer. I have to say though that I found Mahindra Corporation's customer service to be supportive and I ultimately had no issues with the warranty claims. I do have to wonder about quality control at the manufacturing level when the forementioned things I found with my tractor get shipped. We moved shortly after buying ours and the dealerships in the area we now live are few and far between. Mahindra actually listed a local Ag place on their website as being a dealer and when I called them, they said they weren't. They had been trying for some time to get Mahindra to take them off their website because they got calls for parts regularly. The place explained that they had talked to Mahindra in the past about selling their tractors, but they decided they would not do so. They surmised that Mahindra did it so they would get calls and believe there was a demand for them in the area but who knows? All in all, it's a great tractor for small land ownership but I don't see farmers using them much. The closest dealer in this area sells New Holland and Bad Boy. I have driven a New Holland, and in fact done maintenance on one. They are not very impressive. I think the Mahindra is better but that is my opinion. I have only put about 300 hours on mine, but so far so good. No wiring troubles yet, but some of the posts here are concern me.

[@tractortalkwithgary1271]

Thanks guys. Some really solid information here.

[@chrisgeer9221]

Mahindra owns a large percentage of Mistubishi Heavy industries. I don't see the 1600 series going anywhere and hopefully they expand it to replace the TYM build models. I've heard the emax line will be replaced with mitsubishi built models but not for sure on that. The max26 is also mitsubishi built. The frame tag says who makes them on everyone I've looked at. Bad thing for mahindra is some models give them a bad name and some are really good.

[@jordanmoore2427]

I have a 2020 6065 open station 4x4 with a loader and so far (knock on wood) this thing has been a tank. I absolutely am very pleased with my purchase. The only problems I've had is the ones that I have created!! I have busted a few hydraulic lines. And broke my loader joystick when I pushed through a pine thicket, Using it like a bull dozer lol. I highly recommend them.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Most of my breakages are my fault too.

[@blessed7fold]

The first comment says it all, "First of all, we got no one willing to talk to us on camera."

[@jerrywayneray]

I dont think they knew he has the Number one tractor channel on youtube in the USA !!!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Uh, yes. They knew us.

[@larrybritzman1772]

I will stay with John Deere. Parts support and local service at my dealership for years to come. Peace of mind has a lot of value!!

[@douglasjackson1998]

I LOVE my Yanmar John Deere.

[@hometowndiy9109]

Just hope United Ag don’t buy them. They are a cancer that’s going to be the slow death of deere. Our local dealers are loosing market share everyday. They’ve been the best free advertising we ever had.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Who do you work for? Who do you mean when you say ‘we’?

[@Ravi_choudhary462]

​@@hometowndiy9109 jealousy of Indian 😂 Keep going bro 🙏

[@musicgroopie1]

​@@hometowndiy9109that's exactly what's happened in North Texas. United Ag bought out the mom and pop jd dealers, there by, eliminating the competition and Wallah, overnight the prices doubled. I would love to buy a 4052 m but I'm not paying 45,000 dollars for it when I can buy a Branson 5520 r loaded with way more features for 32,000 dollars. After all, they don't paint them green for nothing.

[@donaldelder7565]

Tim, on the other side of the coin here.... my current tractor is a mahindra ... well it's a mitsubishi tractor with mahindra stickers. I knew this going in and a reason I purchased it. Mitsubishi has been making good equipment for a long time, but for most people a rebranded mitsubishi is the only way to purchase one new. I do agree that rebranding just to have a tractor for sale is often a bad thing. Some brands like bobcat ( john deere or whomever )use a base tractor that is rebranded and value added from the base... better loaders, backhoes, hydraulic layout, comfortable seating and other things that are above ( in some cases far above ) the quality you get from the standard brand in the original paint color. I know there is a full video on the "value added" within the rebranded machines.... maybe an idea for the future.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Deere is not a rebranded tractor. Used to be….but not anymore.

[@donaldelder7565]

Sorry, was just using Deere as an example.... use bad boy, mahindra or one of the others in that situation. No attack intended on the green guys.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

@@donaldelder7565 thanks. Anyway, my concern is the upcoming Mahindra/Mitsubishi divorce. Where will you get Mitsubishi parts then?

[@randyepps3900]

I actually have a Mahindra 5145 I can say it's a beast!

[@ctraltdel6510]

Have the same tractor, do you know how to reset the maintenance light?

[@John1911]

I am by no means an expert, since what I am talking about is our first tractor. But in regards to the DOC systems, we have a large 2021 Massey-Ferguson 4707 cabbed tractor. 11,000lbs. Officially it specs at 70hp on paper but the truth is it’s 75hp if you look at the RPM chart. It doesn’t use DPF or DEF fluid. Get’s by with this with a DOC system. You mentioned on camera that DOC systems run hotter all the time. Which might turn some people off. But I can say the MF 4707 is actually a cold-blooded machine. Takes it a while to “warm up” even after letting it idle for 15-20 minutes. We’ve run it very hard for many hours straight with a FEL Lane Shark and barely touches the ideal operating temp. My point is “running hot” might be something model specific. Or relative to how over-built a engine is.

[@roybaughman306]

Hello chrisie...Tim..and Ken..I have so many of kens fabulous parts on my 1025r I should change the name to Deere Hooks tractor...great video. ..

[@ES-zt8sj]

Great job! Very interesting. Looks like my kind of tractor!

[@mitch_smith]

As a mahindra owner, any tractor made by mitsubishi is solid. simple and easy. Can't speak to the tym models. Neighbor uses 4550's for haying, they are also very solid w/ amazing lifting capacities. Edited to fix typo

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Had any dealer or support issues?

[@paulrunge9173]

Why are you fishing for negative comments? , Deleting positive comments and links to facts about Mahindra owning large stake in companies like Mitsubishi Agriculture?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I have not deleted any comments. Nope. Not looking for negative comments. If you haven’t had any issues, that is great! Oh, and I had no idea about Mahindra owning a portion of Mitsubishi until this comments section. I wish the Mahindra reps at the show would have told me about that. It DOES make a difference. The reps seemed to indicate that Mahindra would be moving AWAY from Mitsubishi tractors. An investment in Mitsubishi says the opposite. I promise you that sorting though this stuff is NOT easy!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Did you see comments earlier that are gone now? If so, I’m wondering why they are gone!

[@mitch_smith]

@@TractorTimewithTim no Sir, I didn't see anything deleted. Dealer support has been great. It's the first modern tractor that i've bought, and the reason i bought it, was b/c i liked the dealer. I liked the guys in the shop, they were happy to answer my questions. My dealer is in one of the big mahindra facebook groups and is very active and helpful, even for folks that he didn't sell a tractor to. Everyone has parts shortages the past year or so, but maintenance and things, i've not had any issues. Only problem I had was w/ the parking break catch. The teeth on it just weren't quite finished enough to catch on the lever (mechanical lock).

[@anthonyg6924]

Good video, thank you. I hope there's a follow up with what changes have taken place and not just speculation of what might happen.?? Would be interesting and informative content seeing how it all shakes out.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Pretty hard to provide concrete info when the company reps will not speak on camera, and even off camera are clearly fearing for their jobs if they say anything.

[@anthonyg6924]

@@TractorTimewithTim yes sir. Agreed and understood👍🏻. Thanks again. Keep up the good work.

[@daddio7249]

About three years ago a Mahindra dealership opened 4 miles from me. Last year I decided to buy a compact tractor but by then that dealership closed. The TYM dealership was forty miles away. The John Deere and Kubota dealerships are 10 miles away. I had borrowed a Kubota from my neighbor to spread some shell rock on my driveway. I did not care for the HST treadle at all. I bought a JD 1023E. It does what I want but I do wish I had got the 1025R. I miss the suspension seat, the depth setting for the power lift, and the tilt steering wheel would have been nice.

[@averagejoe-kx4sb]

I enjoy that your discussing a hot topic and making the used car/tractor salespeople run and hide. That’s a telling story and always do your homework before you decide on a brand of tractor.

[@timkd5vmv583]

I had a Mahindra 2816 that was made by Mitsubishi. I got close to 10 years of good service out of it, then my dealer stopped selling or working on them. The closest dealer was 100 miles away and they were more interested in selling me a new tractor than they were in fixing mine. I ended up selling the Mahindra and getting a Kubota.

[@jkholley1118]

I bought the Mahindra made 4540. A very basic tractor but no issues in 8 years.

[@LARGEONE71]

I also have a 4540. It has around 1600 hrs. Super simple machine...like a 60s Ford simple :) I like having the heavier machine for all of the forestry work I do, lifting logs with the grapple could not be done with a JD of same HP. I think with the loader and rear ballast I might be 7.5K pounds. Beefy.

[@jkholley1118]

@@LARGEONE71 From what info I have found online ( and we all know if it's online it's true) that the 4540 is based on an 1970 international that Mahindra bought the rights to build. Like they did the original jeep that is now their Roxor. But regardless, it's one badass tractor for the money. It would be hard to go to anything smaller.

[@Not_So_Weird_in_Austin]

There is an arguement for less electronics in a tractor in a basic type of configuration....

[@BKD70]

Electronics on a tractor are a huge negative for me. But, like it or not, it is the way everything is headed... reliability be damned!

[@Not_So_Weird_in_Austin]

@@BKD70 Agreed I see postings about large tractor makers facing customer resistance around what traditionally was maintenance performed by the farm/ranch and is now shifted to an authorized dealer services agreement

[@jackylsmith8138]

TYM makes a bunch of tractors for Mahindra. They made the xx10 series. Then the 25xx series then 26xx series the 25xx and 26xx were TYM built with Mahindra engines. Not sure which new series TYM is making for them, but they probably make between 3-5 different tractors for them

[@steveliles5146]

For people who do not have the opportunity to attend you bring us there very much appreciated.

[@m9ovich785]

Check out Farmer Kleins Channel. he has a 3+ Hour 4K Video walking around the Place, No narration Cept at the beginning and End Just back ground & Music.

[@user-zm6dh8pm8g]

I have a 2016 1533...no problems...does a great job

[@that09_Vermonter]

hey, Tim I love your honesty when it comes to tractors and other farm items my grandfather has a small farm/homestead and his Mahindra 4110 is starting to show its age he was thinking about a new holland for when the Mahindra goes but I was wondering what you would recommend. We would be looking for something in the 40ish horsepower range. (Any feedback is helpful thank you)

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Not a fan of rebranded tractors. New Holland compact utility tractors are made by LS.

[@that09_Vermonter]

@@TractorTimewithTim we didn't know this thank you

[@Orefamilylawncare]

I remember waking up at 5am in the morning to watch (Ag Day) they always promoted Mahindra tractors. I miss Ag Day show

[@robertporteus7700]

I have a Montana tractor was made by LS and have no problems with parts, LS also makes New holland tractors. I've used this tractor for logging since 2008 and had no problems with it other than normal wear items and had no prblems with parts.

[@davidhupp3717]

I own a 1538 and I love it. 4 yrs and going strong

[@adammfharris]

Well Tim, I hate to say it, but I have to give a hard disagreement based on my experience. I have a 2016 Mahindra 1635 shuttle shift made in Tennessee, and it’s built well and everything had worked. The rear light lenses fell off… I swapped the bulbs and easily ordered them online. My seat tore, and I ordered a new one online easily. I yanked on the shifter hard and bent the pin lever, Mahindra got it to me quickly. When I wanted to make my bucket a quick-disconnect, went to the dealer, and all the parts were available and arrived at my door in a week. I just haven’t had any problems that haven’t been easy to address. For me it’s been easy. Mitsubishi engine, Eaton gearbox… I like it, and I have had good support experience with the exact model you guys were on. I just developed a flat, so I’m going to get on that now haha.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Glad to hear you’ve had good experience. Many others in the comments have not. Pretty sure 1600 series built in India by Mitsubishi. The only thing that has changed is that Mahindra now owns 51% of Mitsubishi Agricultural Machinery, so technically, it is now made by Mahindra! …but not in Tennessee! Maybe the tires are put on there. We just did a video on the new 1100 and 2100 series. Pretty excited to see that Mahindra is now making their own subcompact tractors (via Mitsubishi)

[@user-hm1nh6lz1n]

I don't care what anyone says. I've got a 1626 Mahendra I've had no problems and I've had it almost 3 years and I love it

[@timburton9514]

I love my 1626 as well. It’s handy, easy to operate. I’ve had zero issues

[@CARLOSCARLOS-vy9st]

Most the Marinda tractors sold in America are made by or many part come from TYM and Mitsubishi!

[@stevenklein1460]

I just took delivery of a TYM T494 Hydro, traded in my low hour Branson. Big concern is having a dealer that will be there long term and take care of issues. My perception is that TYM is on the grow. They have some features standard that others don't. They are not resting on reputation, they are earning it. Came 3rd function ready, does anybody else do that? And my dealer had the valve in stock! Unheard of these days.

[@1958johndeere620]

With all the DPF and Diesel issues I am very surprised the manufacturers are not re thinking gasoline engines. They worked for decades, and can be built as good as a diesel.

[@anymanusa]

Excellent topic

[@RandWFarmstead-TonyWalsh]

Great video, as I start looking at a sub-compact or small compact, I’m looking forward to watching your videos.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Welcome aboard!

[@croquest8749]

I own 2021 emax 22 tlb . Tractor is very solid . Tractor is tym backhoe made in usa . Along with parts from mahindra you can cross reference parts for them from many other brands sold.

[@MrRfries]

I Love my Mitsubishi built Mahindra. I've had it for about 7 years. I don't know about parts availability as nothing has broken yet. I wanted a large frame 25 HP tractor and in that segment the Deere & Kubota did not measure up. the 3025E especially. At that time the 3025E could not be fitted with a backhoe, had no mid PTO option, no split brake and way less lift capacity. The L2501 was much better, but being an economy model it still felt cheap next to the Mahindra. Less lift capacity, no reinforcement from the loader to the rear of the tractor, no floor mat and a few other things. My primary use is pallet forks and this tractor is maxed out every time I use it. If I had any less lift it wouldn't do the job for me. I tend to do lots of short runs starting it and using it for 10-30 minutes at a time. Often it barely warms up before I shut it down. I do no long hard work to allow a DPF to properly keep itself clean, so over 25 HP with a DPF was not an option for my use case. I'm sure on a farm brush hogging, tilling, etc. the DPF is fine, but short runs I think would be an expensive disaster.

[@7viewerlogic670]

Great info in the video and comment section.

[@doncc6080]

Tim a couple years ago I read that Mahindra sells more tractors then any company in the world.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

They continue to use that as a marketing slogan. You do of course realize that almost all of their tractors are sold in India….and they aren’t even branded as ‘Mahindra’…right?

[@coypatton3160]

I know some folks that bought Mahindra tractors. In part the selling factor was there claimed 7 year warranty. 2 individuals needed repairs and it was ruled by the Dealer/company that the machine was used commercially. It both cases their tractor was used only on their property and not in any money producing activities. They had some excess garden produce they had given away was the ruling item in simple terms. The dealership owner knew of this activity. Now granted this was several years ago, but from this I would not consider recommending nir buying this brand.

[@MacBailey]

I have a 2019 Mahindra 1635 and it looks basically identical to what you have there. I have overall been very happy and no major problems with about 140 hours. My local dealer has been handling Mahindra for over 20 years and I toured their service department as part of selecting them. I have done my own initial Oil and Hydraulic changes and the dealer had ready availability for these parts. In these mid size 25 to 40 horse motors they had two series as you said the 16xx and 26xx and they were very similar but made by two different subcontractors Mitsubishi and TYM respectively. The 1600 series had the single treadle pedal on the hydro drive and the 2600 had separate forward/reverse side by side pedals. The engine size actually determines who makes it, as I understand it. My 1635 35hp motor is made by Mahindra. A 1625 model which has basically the same frame and bucket has a Mitsubishi engine, so the larger engines they go to their own. I did look at RK and they seemed very nice, but I felt more comfortable with a long term dealer dedicated to tractors that I had locally.

[@matthutchinson3139]

I bought a 2016 Max 26 hydrostatic with backhoe, it has 600 hrs on it , it’s been builtproof, no issues

[@stylus2253]

Let's Go Branson! I have unanswered questions about whether there'll be any diesel fuel in our future and about whether foreign parts would be available in the event of a world war. Otherwise, I'm in the market for a new tractor (with a JD dealership closest to me).

[@richardjensen6753]

Good luck finding parts!

[@dw6627]

I have a 2810 Mahindra I purchased new in 2001. It is actually a TYM, even has the their name on the frame. Has been a great tractor.

[@AJmx2702001]

Mahindra has a very interesting history and it all came from an 1963 joint venture with International Harvester based off of the IH B275 i think and some of the USA variants like the IH 74 utility tractors which Mahindra uses that Basic Powertrain still from the 1970s. Mitsubushi was a partner with IH as well so thats how it all started .. I also think Finland based Sampo rosenlew has a connection with Mahindra too. Competition is great for consumers. I would look to kubota make another move soon with buying the North America Arm of Versatile since the Russian side is sourcing all new components from China

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Interesting comment on Versatile/Kubota. Thanks.

[@MitzvosGolem1]

We had that 275 clone was simple no issues

[@mikerequa820]

Well ya'll good video! I bought a 1526 in 2017 had 975 hrs traded it for 2020 Branson 2515 had to have a Mahindra again have a 1626 2021 it has 268 hrs I'd put it up against in tractor in it's class. I also had a agra cat which was Montana before the name change it was a beast but spindles wouldn't hold up to the weight it would lift. I really don't know in the future what will happen but I figure at 68 years old it'll more than likely out last me. Thanks for sharing be safe have fun

[@l-cranchjustthinking8302]

I have a Mahindra 6525 that bought in 2015. Very solid simple, basic, reliable tractor but every hydraulic and fuel fitting on the thing leak. That's my only gripe!! Haven't had to buy any replacement parts but basic maintenance parts are not hard to find.

[@christophersiano969]

Not even rebrand, parts can be difficult for main brands of low production. For example, my 1968 Ford 5000 is a gasoline powered beast. It's one of only a few models built with a 4 cylinder gas engine next to their diesel brothers. Most Fords of that era were 3 cylinder motors. Most of the 4 cylinder are diesel, and in fact, only a few years later, the gas version was dropped. Many parts for my tractor are easy to find and cheap because many parts are shared with other gas or diesel models. For example, the fuel lift pump is the same for the 3 and 4 cylinder. The exhaust manifold is the same for the gas and diesel 4 cylinder. The distributor for the 3 and 4 cylinder is identical in all parts except the lobe that operates the points and the distributor cap. (one version has 3 and the other has 4) A 3 cylinder distributor cap is $8 every day from a number of sources. The distributor cap for the 4 cylinder? I have 2 NOS on my shelf I paid $80 each for. If you can find them, you'll see prices over $100. Since the rotor is the same for both 3 and 4 cylinder, those are cheap. There simply isn't the demand for the 4 post cap. Thankfully, the part lasts for many years, but its just an example of how a more rare version can create difficulty in finding parts.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yes. Good point. I have tried to point this out. Sales volume of a particular model/configuration is the ultimate factor determining parts availability. The Ford 8N is probably the best example available. I suspect you could build an 8N by buying new parts alone. Would be fun to try!

[@vietnamvet5826]

I have the 1635 with 200+ trouble free hours except for some hydraulic issues on the loader. After 3 trips to dealer found a pinched O ring in loader valve. My understanding is the engine is a 3 cylinder Mahindra common rail diesel. But as you stated the tractor is built in Japan by Mitsubishi. I, also, have a 6075 for 5 years with the only failure the electronic dash the Mahindra replaced under warranty. It doesn't seem to have as much lugging power as what I am use to in the old Case 930 diesels. Dealer has told me several times to never idle engine very long and it's best to keep rpm at minimum of 1500rpm

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I have found my 75hp Deere to have "less lugging power" than what I am used to in an old Oliver 1600...and it is a gas engine. I dunno exactly how we could test that, but I think these small 3 cyl diesels may not have as much lugging power as some of those older 6 cyl machines.

[@pc5569]

I always figured that if a Mahindra looks like a 70's or 80's tractor it was made by them. If it looks modern then it was built by others for Mahindra.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I think that newer cab tractor breaks that mold…but other than that, your approach pretty much works.

[@andrewjohn9813]

A friend of mine just brought one I haven't seen it run yet but just looking at the overall machine 3pointhitch linkage and axle wise it seems very weakly built cab is very basic

[@Kcolby47]

Great information for folks considering the short and long term aspects of a tractor purchase. Blessings.

[@DavidJones-me7yr]

You should be able to look on the castings of the rear end , transmission and motor to see where it's built?

[@garycochran9688]

My TYM shares the same part numbers as Mahindra tractors and makes getting parts very easy.

[@cliffordtrosper6638]

I own a kioti and have no problems and have a bigger hydro pump than JD and others . . . .i had a bad problem when shopping at john deere from salesman. the price was sooo much better from others. . ..depends on what u research and want. THIS GUY IS A JOHN DEERE GUY!!

[@kdegraa]

In 2021 we tried to buy a Mahindra tractor. The dealer was very close to our farm, around a five minute drive away. However the deal fell through due to Covid restrictions. This tractor is made by Mitsubishi. This dealer now sells TYM tractors and no longer has Mahindra branding.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Any idea why they left Mahindra?

[@karaayers2867]

I have a mahindra 2816. It has 2200hrs. Been an excellent machine. I replaced the clutch drive disc and 1st pressure plate myself in 14 hours because the previous owner treated it like a bulldozer. It lives in the field all the time and rarely gets maintenance. I just crank it up and get to work

[@keithrogers5832]

Have you seen the Summit Tractor yet?? I'm looking but I'm also leaning towards a cab tractor

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I’m not a fan of rebranded tractors.

[@bigsway4414]

I like videos like this Tim

[@pyroman6000]

I had an LS dealer tell me "on the sly" that the compact/compact utility New Hollands were rebranded LS's- and that you could get parts for them at any good LS dealer. I always thought that blue color was familiar... Car companies were doing this for years- esp with the compacts. Why reinvent the wheel? Nowadays, of course, those Japanese manufacturers have their own dealers in the states. In the 80's, we owned a Plymouth that was made by Mitsubishi, and a Chevy that was essentially a Toyota Corolla. Both were great cars, and lasted for years. That Chevy was falling to pieces by the time I got rid of it- but it started first try every time, and ran like a champ. (damn road salt...) Personally, I think tractor companies are doing it for the same reason the car makers did: to capitalize on the ever growing market for small homeowner tractors. Many of the big names- like Mahindra , New Holland, and Deere are primarily Agricultural manufacturers. I'm sure they couldn't help but notice the BRISK business Kubota was doing... And with the death of most small and med family farms in the US, they needed to expand their product lines to serve the market where the money is now. If someone else is already making, for example, a rock solid series of smaller diesel engines- and has plenty of excess capacity- why not use it? I think you nailled it, Tim: It's when these tractors get "orphaned" that the issues can arise.

[@derekdreke4990]

Simplicity goes a long ways these days

[@ModernMountainLiving]

My 1980 Allis Chalmers 5020 was made in Japan during the Gray Market era. The same tractor has Massey and Simplicity Decals. They are near impossible to get parts for. Rebranded tractors like you are talking about will likely have the same outcome since there is ZERO support.

[@DavidJones-me7yr]

Are you sure that tractor is not a Fiat? I'm pretty sure that the 5040 is a Fiat. there are small low down tractors that people use in the Orchards here,, but spend most of their time is laid up waiting for parts!😮

[@BKD70]

I've got a 2007 Mahindra 3525, it's essentially the same exact tractor as the 2WD 4540 except it is Tier 2, and has a 35hp 3 cylinder engine. 1250 hours on it so far, and I've only had to replace a fuel line that rubbed against something and developed a leak, and the hazard flasher switch. Other than that, it's just been oil and filter changes. Rock solid, heavy, and strong! Overbuilt. The problem with Mahindra is I don't think corporate support for their dealers is very strong, at least that has been my experience in the past. And they are not selective enough on who they will take on as a dealer. My dealer used to be about 15 miles away from home, but they dropped Mahindra, and left me orphaned. Next closest dealer is over an hour drive away. Luckily, parts are not too hard to get online, but for me the days of needing a part and having it today and going again are over.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Dealer/Corporate relationship challenges seem to be a theme in this comments section.

[@aaronschinlaub9704]

I love your videos keep them up the three tractors I look at the most one is number one is John Deere with you're going to pay for it number two I would say is a Kubota the third one that I I have is a Massey Ferguson 1705 and then I think my next pick would be a Kioti but I don't know if I was getting a tractor I have looked at mahindra's they're build quality to me is really close to a Massey Ferguson