WHO MAKES THE BADDEST LS TRUCK CAM? TRUCK NORRIS vs, CHOPACABRA vs TORKINATOR vs LIL CHOP HOT ROD?

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Richard Holdener

Richard Holdener

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@frtaylor9
@frtaylor9 Жыл бұрын
Rich is putting in the work for us so we don’t have to. We owe this man 2 subs. Thanks Richard!
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that
@joseiracheta3817
@joseiracheta3817 Жыл бұрын
We owe him subscriptions and sub sandwichs 🥪
@100pyatt
@100pyatt Жыл бұрын
🏆💯🏆
@AndrewJohnson-nj5fj
@AndrewJohnson-nj5fj Жыл бұрын
Yo i live in ky too, plan on building my 4.8l yukon 2wd this year
@SelfPreservation7
@SelfPreservation7 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@MagicPants1013
@MagicPants1013 Жыл бұрын
Love seeing TSP cams finally here.
@WhalerGA
@WhalerGA Жыл бұрын
Impressive that a junkyard 5.3L can make nearly 450hp and well over 400lb-ft with just a good cam.
@nickmeilahn155
@nickmeilahn155 Жыл бұрын
Richard holdner thank you for all of the golden knowledge you provide. You sir are a motor legend.
@WelshKennelzCombine_DMV
@WelshKennelzCombine_DMV Жыл бұрын
Yup 💯💯💯💯
@mariotillery8459
@mariotillery8459 Жыл бұрын
It's great to see the Lil Loper in this test. I have it to go in a LQ9 with similar suppting mods .
@bluecollarhotrods9781
@bluecollarhotrods9781 Жыл бұрын
Pretty much confirms what I felt it would make, and makes my combo make sense now. Time for me to change cam and cylinder heads.
@scottymoondogjakubin4766
@scottymoondogjakubin4766 Жыл бұрын
Gotta luv the guys that hate on LS engines because they are so simple - powerful - reliable - plentiful - and low cost ! Nuff said ! 😻
@sikryd
@sikryd 9 ай бұрын
low cost?
@antuanperez426
@antuanperez426 3 ай бұрын
@@sikryd$500 at any wrecking yard in the US. Thank the Lord
@camjohnson1641
@camjohnson1641 Жыл бұрын
I like the chopacabra for the idle but to know I’m not sacrificing power for something so vane makes me feel better😂
@loweredyote8416
@loweredyote8416 Жыл бұрын
Plus it made the power with a fraction of the oil pressure the norris had. Bet it’d gain a few ponies
@bluecollarhotrods9781
@bluecollarhotrods9781 Жыл бұрын
@@loweredyote8416 Can't wait for the retest.
@loweredyote8416
@loweredyote8416 Жыл бұрын
@@bluecollarhotrods9781 me neither. Have you redynod your truck yet eith new heads?
@bluecollarhotrods9781
@bluecollarhotrods9781 Жыл бұрын
@@loweredyote8416 I have not. The shop I used for dyno and tuning closed and the owner moved out of state. I need to get HP Tuners or something so I can lock the converter. And, I need to re baseline on another dyno so the numbers won't be skewed. All that had to happen before I swap on the clean 706 casting heads with a real valve job vs. the junkyard 862s with just a "razor blade rebuild." After that, it's party time - Advanced Induction 799s and a custom grind 224/232 cam. Going to try and break 400rwhp with unported heads and without a HUGE cam.
@loweredyote8416
@loweredyote8416 Жыл бұрын
@@bluecollarhotrods9781 I’m hoping to make similar power on my lq9 with ported/polished/milled 799s, chopacabra, longtubes, and 3200 stall single clutch billet converter. Eventually I’ll do a ls3 manifold or fast102.
@mrclean146
@mrclean146 Жыл бұрын
I just can't wait to get one of these motors in my garage before next winter. I will be studying Richard carefully. I need to be as confident. Thank goodness for you tube university.
@JKZ103
@JKZ103 Жыл бұрын
I like cam motions grinds... I run a titan 2 ls1 cam in my 5.3 and it has power everywhere and a monster up top. Mated with a 3200 stall in a 3500lb silverado it's a fun little street truck. The main thing I like about CM is that they don't slam the valves shut and not a lot of people run them.... everyone does a truck Norris or texas speed etc... never anything different. On the btr I have in my other truck valvetrain noise is a little louder but it runs great as well. Everyone has their preference, good thing there are a million choices.
@jameswhitesell3076
@jameswhitesell3076 Жыл бұрын
Ive got a cam motion cam in my 5.7 hemi. Seems to run alittle quiter than the comp cam i had before as well
@jmtmotorsports3173
@jmtmotorsports3173 Жыл бұрын
This is why I absolutely love Richard!! Best job on the planet 🙌🏼
@rodstrong01
@rodstrong01 Жыл бұрын
We need a coil pack comparison . truck vs car vs LS3 ,msd .....etc
@jeffg4008
@jeffg4008 Жыл бұрын
It'd be interesting to see the vacuum pulled down with each cam. I'd probably go with the Summit cam just based off of the specs. It looks like it would have the smoothest idle.
@michaelblacktree
@michaelblacktree Жыл бұрын
Good idea. Should be easy to log, as well.
@cedricwilson2055
@cedricwilson2055 Жыл бұрын
Who wants a smooth idle? Just stay stock.
@jeffg4008
@jeffg4008 Жыл бұрын
@@cedricwilson2055 Why trade away efficiency (more vacuum, smoother idle) if you don't get more power in return. Makes no sense to me. If you want a choppy cam, then choose a big cam. These are not big cams. You do you......
@utahcountypicazospage5412
@utahcountypicazospage5412 Жыл бұрын
If you want smoother idle and power Texas speed stage 2 212/218 but losses no torque down low but still has a lope
@jeffg4008
@jeffg4008 Жыл бұрын
@@utahcountypicazospage5412 maybe he should have tested that cam too🤷
@raygorski9121
@raygorski9121 Жыл бұрын
You should take a sound clip of each cam at idle since they all claim some sort of choppy idle.
@justinjackson5979
@justinjackson5979 Жыл бұрын
Why don’t you do a comparison to all the summit pro cams?
@biastv1234
@biastv1234 Жыл бұрын
Yep. High oil pressure is high drag .
@SnIt3yAsTr0
@SnIt3yAsTr0 20 күн бұрын
I have that same Cam Motion 216/224 in my 4.8… just ran across this video. I don’t see many running it, as all the hype is on Truck Norris/Chopacabra… (I installed cam motion before these came out)
@Akestler
@Akestler Жыл бұрын
As many cams as you install I would think you would use a split timing cover.
@MPKPerformance
@MPKPerformance Жыл бұрын
I have that summit torque cam in a flat top 6.0 with 243 heads and 1-7/8 headers in a crew cab 2500hd 4x4 and I really like it.
@robtdougherty
@robtdougherty Жыл бұрын
awesome, did you keep stock trans and converter? more power everywhere i assume?
@MPKPerformance
@MPKPerformance Жыл бұрын
@@robtdougherty Yes, it had a 4l80e in it with a stock converter.
@cityduke505
@cityduke505 Жыл бұрын
What dyno #"s did it make?
@MPKPerformance
@MPKPerformance Жыл бұрын
@@cityduke505 never put it on a dyno.
@LT3Fluffy
@LT3Fluffy Жыл бұрын
You can also spin the cam to push the lifters up and use 5/16 (NOT 1/4) wooden or aluminum dowels in the 2 holes that the cam retainer plate cover to keep the lifters from falling down into the pan.
@davelowets
@davelowets Жыл бұрын
I use 1/4" dowels, and no issues... I tried a 5/16 dowel before, and had trouble getting them in in some blocks... 🤷🏻
@tlclawncare7957
@tlclawncare7957 Жыл бұрын
So 11hp and 8 lb ft more than posted on the BTR site. I think it’s safe to say that’s the Fast intake over the TBSS. I like seeing that the manufacturer isn’t inflating numbers.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
DIFFERENT DYNOS-DIFFERENT MOTORS-CAN'T COMPARE
@tlclawncare7957
@tlclawncare7957 Жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 I was just making the point, that being that close and knowing the Fast makes more power shows that BTR isn’t inflating their numbers for increased sales
@turbo_sentra6467
@turbo_sentra6467 Жыл бұрын
Puting the finishing touches on the car and getting ready for some racing.
@Fahrenheit_Motorsports
@Fahrenheit_Motorsports Жыл бұрын
Can we all agree that this man should now slide into Betty White’s recently vacated spot as the nations most valued treasure and should be protected at all costs 😂
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
Betty White cannot be replaced-she was amazing
@garryharris2082
@garryharris2082 Жыл бұрын
Hey Richard love your videos, I install dozens of these truck cams a year, everybody wants these cams and I see similar results on the chassis dyno. What I hate about the truck norris or tsp cam is that they advertise "no stall required" but they end up with "no balls" till 25/2600. They are awsome with a 26-2800 stall. So 2 things I'd love to see, 1: a test advancing the cam 2 or 4 degrees 2: test with a set of "variable duration lifters". Howards cams advertises up to 10 degrees of duration lost below 3k rpm, more intake vacuum, more low speed torque. Could either of these bring out some bottom end? Just a video I'd love to see.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
these definitely require converters on a 4.8l, less so (but much better if used) on a 5.3l and not really on a 6.0l-the Rhodes lifters would be a good test
@utahcountypicazospage5412
@utahcountypicazospage5412 Жыл бұрын
Especially on a big camshaft if those lifters really increases vacuum.I like truck cams for cars with boost I used tsp stage 2 truck cam on 112 lsa my 99 z28 made 350hp 350tq NA and it is so smooth no one knows its cammed lol
@trailerparkcryptoking5213
@trailerparkcryptoking5213 Жыл бұрын
No stall required in 1962 Falcon based Ranchero that weighs 2900 lbs with driver.....and 4.11 gears....
@MD-lm7fj
@MD-lm7fj Жыл бұрын
Richard is there a way to get a good audio of the idle sounds when you redo the test? I know exhaust makes a big difference in overall sound but I'm wondering what the cams sound like at idle to make a comparison.
@davelowets
@davelowets Жыл бұрын
5:18 On the Gen 4 motors, you can stick a 1/4" diameter wooden dowel down the block, on both sides, in those holes under the cam plate once you've rotated the cam and pushed all the lifters up in the trays. The dowel will then be sitting under the lifters and will prevent them from falling into the oil pan if they work loose because of worn out trays. You may have to rotate the cam a touch to get the dowels all the way in. I.I.RC., a 16" long dowel will reach all the way back to the rear lifters, and you'll have enough room to get them in with the engine in the vehicle, with the rad out. I do this on every single one, just in case. Call me paranoid, but I like to ensure that I won't ever have to be pulling the oil pan for a cam change.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
we use 5/16
@TurbineResearch
@TurbineResearch Жыл бұрын
Texas speed cams can go bad if you open them and leave them out for months before installing. If you need to open them up make sure to refrigerate the cam after opening
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
I thought that only happened to converters
@msh6865
@msh6865 Жыл бұрын
Interesting how the nearly. 050 lift difference on the first two made little to no difference. Focus on the duration and split for your targeted rpm range?
@CrazedPerformanceRepair
@CrazedPerformanceRepair Жыл бұрын
I have the summit cam and it does ok. Should have gone a little bigger though since I did a 4in stroke. fairly smooth idle I suppose because of the extra stroke. I will say though considering the oil pressure vs test results, looks like the truck norris will ba a little better then the summit one by a few hp but not much. I don't see 20psi dropping more then 5-6 hp.
@travishall3446
@travishall3446 Жыл бұрын
cubic inches really suck up chop. a 585 elgin in a 4.8 is a total fender shaker. In a 6.2 it sounds like a mini van at idle. Bet the thing still runs good though. 6.0 bore or 5.3?
@CrazedPerformanceRepair
@CrazedPerformanceRepair Жыл бұрын
@@travishall3446 was 5.3 so now a 5.8
@horsefly1020
@horsefly1020 Жыл бұрын
That's a small cam. I just bought the stage 1 ghost cam and it's got a lot more duration but a wider lobe separation should be good with my 5.3 and turbo.
@CrazedPerformanceRepair
@CrazedPerformanceRepair Жыл бұрын
@@horsefly1020 yeah that will work fine with boost for a vehicle not towing anything. Mine was a n/a towing specific build. Makes 300lb ft of TQ at 2k RPM at the rear tire so it's perfect for what I needed. It doesn't pull past 5200 well though, needs more duration for that with the 4in stroke. I may just try some 799 ported heads and see if that works well to make it pull to 6k. Would be nice to have it pull longer with that turd 4l60e trans. Adding bigger cam may just wreck that trans lol
@horsefly1020
@horsefly1020 Жыл бұрын
@@CrazedPerformanceRepair get a turbo for towing if you want torque. Plenty of people tow with a turbo LS just need good intercooler.
@CarsAndSodaBars
@CarsAndSodaBars Жыл бұрын
I wasn't expecting the power and torque numbers to be so close. I'm guessing that they should still be pretty close even once the oil pressure is resolved
@davelowets
@davelowets Жыл бұрын
They won't change much at all with the oil pressure restored.
@mr.twhosasking5160
@mr.twhosasking5160 Жыл бұрын
I was hoping to hear which one sounded the best? I figured they would all be pretty equal in power.
@35RSkyline
@35RSkyline Жыл бұрын
What a great sound. Good ol LS rumble
@ZONES89RS
@ZONES89RS Жыл бұрын
Cammotion should send you a little chopper cam as well. Have one in my OBS with the 5.3. Made 318 rwhp on 87, random trash tune, clutch fan through a not happy 3 speed auto with a loose converter
@stevenbalusik5835
@stevenbalusik5835 Жыл бұрын
We did send him a Little Chopper cam, but it would have been unfair in this test because Little Chopper has more duration and is quite a bit more powerful than these.
@ZONES89RS
@ZONES89RS Жыл бұрын
@@stevenbalusik5835 I meant in general, for sure not this test for the reasons you stated. Good to know tho. I’m curious what he does with it.
@freyja4954
@freyja4954 Жыл бұрын
In the end out of all the cams run the cheapest or company you like best.
@houseofhoon
@houseofhoon Жыл бұрын
Test the BFD Chop Monster cam please 😁
@matmichalke5734
@matmichalke5734 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love all the comparo vids, I'd really like to see an ls with a carb type intake and a shootout with aces, jegs, fitech, holly and whatever other tbi you can get your hands on. There's some of us want the LS power but that carb like look in our classic cars
@cc23001
@cc23001 Жыл бұрын
He did that in the second half of the ls intake shootout. They all suck compared to even the factory efi intakes
@utahcountypicazospage5412
@utahcountypicazospage5412 Жыл бұрын
On the retest we need to see all 4 on the same chart lol please and can you find a cam checker to get exact specs lol rumors
@bluehills38
@bluehills38 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the intense info you put out for us motor heads it’s second to none ! I’m building a 5.3 for a 1989 Suburban 2500 TH400 . I live at 7500’ elevation , what would be my best choice for a cam that makes torque ? I’m wanting drivability, Holley terminator harness computer stock lower end LM3 . Thank You so much ❤
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
BTR Truck Norris
@necrofool
@necrofool Жыл бұрын
This is perfect timing. I was just looking into a cam for my turbo 5.3l I think I originally went too big with my 226/230 .600/.575 113+4 cam. Might step down to a stage 1 since it's my DD
@utahcountypicazospage5412
@utahcountypicazospage5412 Жыл бұрын
I really like the 212/218 550/550 112 from Texasspeed I made 571hp 519tq at 9 psi procharged with it in my ls1 it sounds stock and still gets 23mpg if I’m not on it
@necrofool
@necrofool Жыл бұрын
@@utahcountypicazospage5412 that's some pretty solid fuel milage. What torque converter? I was looking at the Tick Stage 2 for 4.8/5.3. it's 219/223 .617/.595 114+3. I've got cnc ported 862 heads and a Fast 92mm intake/tb. Circle D 2800-3000 stall
@6.0maro
@6.0maro Жыл бұрын
Hell yea iv bin waiting for this I got the chopacobra last year at ls fest for my truck and love it
@joecameron3406
@joecameron3406 Жыл бұрын
Kewl test I have that summit cam. In a lq4 in 94 s10 terminator x max running everything
@christiansotomayor1469
@christiansotomayor1469 Жыл бұрын
Would’ve really liked to see a GPI cam, such as their SS3
@cuzz63
@cuzz63 Жыл бұрын
Surprised how close the outputs of some of the cams when the specs were different. Very interesting to me.
@alaverga173
@alaverga173 Жыл бұрын
Got the btr stage 1 but was thinking about switching to truck Norris but might just get chopacabra instead because of the price
@nickg0411
@nickg0411 Жыл бұрын
time sert will fix those threads really nicely
@pmd7771969
@pmd7771969 Жыл бұрын
I think alot of people will go out and buy a big cam and be disappointed by not matching the combo. Rich needs to make that point. I mean a stock 1800 rpm stall converter with a cam made for a 3400 stall converter will suck. Bv
@blownaway4371
@blownaway4371 Жыл бұрын
Richard, When you're saying that the high oil pressure was pushing out the retainer plate, Could that let the lobes move fore/aft, damaging a lifter or wiping a lobe eventually? Also, what about tapping the oil holes in the block and running braided line in between? cutting the retainer 9-3 below those two holes I'm not sure how much room there would be between the cam gear and the braided line(?) Would 1/4"/AN-4 be enough?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
cam movement was not an issue-just a very small oil (pressure) leak out 1 side
@davelowets
@davelowets Жыл бұрын
Just run the plate....
@irismeza5688
@irismeza5688 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for your videos I’ma build me a 5.3 with some of the parts you recommended for the 500hp
@Thetonygantjos
@Thetonygantjos Жыл бұрын
Would like to see how the Scoggin Dicky Ls6 plus compare to these as well
@RyanlaBlue51
@RyanlaBlue51 Жыл бұрын
Perfect timing. Trying to choose between the btr and tsp. Now to the video. Lol
@JohnnyAnderson1
@JohnnyAnderson1 Жыл бұрын
Looks like there all gonna be about the same lol within a few numbers here or there
@interceptor0166
@interceptor0166 Жыл бұрын
I like them all. Thank you Richard.
@KM-os4be
@KM-os4be Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your work. I recently check a truck norris cam on a ls in the shop. I keep comming up with 109 LSA and not the 107.5 LSA on the cam card. For a truck cam I would like to see what a single pattern cam of around 219 @ .050 and .525 - .550 lift with a true 107 - 108 LSA would do on the LS truck engine. The single pattern cams and tight LSA always did well for me on short track racing years ago.
@bri-manhunter2654
@bri-manhunter2654 Жыл бұрын
You will lose power n/a power with the single pattern, test have already been done.
@trailerparkcryptoking5213
@trailerparkcryptoking5213 Жыл бұрын
Norris cam is 216/227 and 109 LSA
@Turbogto_guy
@Turbogto_guy Жыл бұрын
You almost always gain more power with more exhaust duration. Like having headers vs manifolds.
@utahcountypicazospage5412
@utahcountypicazospage5412 Жыл бұрын
This is not the first time I hear about truck Norris specs being wrong maybe Richard is the only one that got 108 lsa lol
@davelowets
@davelowets Жыл бұрын
Depends on the timing set used... I've seen many cheaper timing sets be off by .5 - 1 degree many times. I only buy name brand quality sets today.
@loweredyote8416
@loweredyote8416 Жыл бұрын
Comp cams just came out with a new line of truck cams too. Looking pretty aggressive for a supposed stock convertor friendly can
@billblount7854
@billblount7854 Жыл бұрын
Where did u find the new line of cams from them? Are you talking about the hv cams from them?
@loweredyote8416
@loweredyote8416 Жыл бұрын
@@billblount7854 yessir the hv. From what I can tell they came out a few months ago. Not seeing anything online for them besides the announcement video
@billblount7854
@billblount7854 Жыл бұрын
@loweredyote8416 Yeah I looked at those they do seem to have bigger lift/duration than all these. Also i noticed the same looking at the specs for the tick tow master stage 2 cam which I'm Interested in as well.
@MisterMayhem727
@MisterMayhem727 Ай бұрын
Someone from Milwaukee or DeWalt or another cordless power tool manufacturer hood this man up with some cordless ratchets, impacts and other goodies. Seriously. Look at how much screen time you could be getting here if you hooked him up.
@dylan2k561
@dylan2k561 21 күн бұрын
it may just be me, but when it comes to speed and just raw power i dont really care, i just like cams for the chop
@pmd7771969
@pmd7771969 11 ай бұрын
Just port over the cams from the xe sbc line and get a great custom cam assuming you can pick the correct one 4 your combo. Bloodviking
@TheInsaneShecklador
@TheInsaneShecklador Жыл бұрын
If anyone is wondering about the Truck Norris cam specs Delta Cam put it on their cam doctor and showed the result on their channel.
@EXTRA---LARGE---FARVA
@EXTRA---LARGE---FARVA Жыл бұрын
It seems around 108 LSA is the sweet spot for LS engines. It also seems lift doesn't matter too much for LS engines. At what power level and/ or displacement is valve lift more of a consideration?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
there is no single lsa that is best for all motors
@r3d1911
@r3d1911 Жыл бұрын
I don't think many realize just how much goes into making a can test video. Your amazing and thank you. Btw how would the ss2 can compare to these cams?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
PLEASE SEE THE SS2 VS TN VIDEO-IT'S UP
@RalphRomano2
@RalphRomano2 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Rich VERY VERY VERY good video.
@jamespobega8878
@jamespobega8878 Жыл бұрын
This is what I've been waiting for . Similar cams from different cam companies . Keep up the good work 👍
@DangerousDan666
@DangerousDan666 Жыл бұрын
I've put the Summit 8709R1 in my stroked LQ4. Can't say how it is yet, engine is not completed yet
@Jermo8115
@Jermo8115 Жыл бұрын
You did the Truck Norris vs the NSR cam on the 5.3 with no noticeable change. You also did the same grind with different LSA. I’d love to see an engine run with the same grind other than lift to see where the plateau is, if any.
@turbobros_online1561
@turbobros_online1561 Жыл бұрын
so that really depends on how your cylinder heads flow. If your cylinder head cannot take advantage of higher lift by allowing for greater CFM then additional lift would not net any gains at all. That is why when heads are done and flow tested they are flow tested at varying amounts of valve lift.
@outlawfords
@outlawfords Жыл бұрын
Have you done the madmax cam shaft from tsp? Been trying to see numbers on that cam
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
no sir
@kayceehoagland5426
@kayceehoagland5426 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the bottleneck has to be displacement with results so similar. None of the other components should be maxed out at this power level.
@cedricwilson2055
@cedricwilson2055 Жыл бұрын
Can’t be, Turbos and superchargers won’t make power
@kayceehoagland5426
@kayceehoagland5426 Жыл бұрын
@Cedric Wilson sure they will. 5.3 litres can never be more that 5.3 we just increase the efficiency of airflow into it and actually getting 5.3 litres of air movement would be 100% volumetric efficiency. All this is true at 14.7psi or 1 atmosphere. At 14.7 pounds boost you are now up to 2 atmospheres and forcing the engine to 200%VE. Consuming the air of a 10.6 liter. Doesn't matter the size or power level, adding boost will be a % increase over what it can make with only atmospheric pressure.
@markim5087
@markim5087 Жыл бұрын
Did it five times, know wonder the bolts were striped, lol.
@justinf9004
@justinf9004 Жыл бұрын
Still rocking the old 36 tooth Craftsman?!?
@flux_core_fx
@flux_core_fx Жыл бұрын
Hi Richard, I appreciate your videos! Just curious, have you ever had any issues with the stock harmonic balancer used in your videos? Thanks!
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
WE HAVE BROKEN STOCK TRUCK DAMPERS ON THE DYNO
@flux_core_fx
@flux_core_fx Жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 great to know, thank you!
@BrokeBoyzKustomz
@BrokeBoyzKustomz Жыл бұрын
RICHARD! Can you try the BTR NSR cams!!??!??
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
that vid is already up
@MagicPants1013
@MagicPants1013 Жыл бұрын
All of the new test used to be different colors, what happened to the software?
@stevenbalusik5835
@stevenbalusik5835 Жыл бұрын
Great work as always Richard!
@zacnorris6354
@zacnorris6354 Жыл бұрын
Looks like you used a car style intake vs a truck intake, wonder how that effects things as well
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
the two FAST intakes (LSXR and RT) make identical power curves
@zacnorris6354
@zacnorris6354 Жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 so basically just a tad better than a TBSS?
@MrBuddy7798
@MrBuddy7798 2 ай бұрын
do this with the 6.2
@timweb1510
@timweb1510 Жыл бұрын
Impressive work like usual
@senatormark
@senatormark Жыл бұрын
Can you chuck in the lunati 219/223 cam next time too?
@brandonbeasley412
@brandonbeasley412 Жыл бұрын
Just curious 🤔 when are you planning on doing another comparison between the Chopacabra and the TN cam? That's what im waiting on before I buy one for my O4' Yukon. Thanks man you're doing a kick-ass job. And I appreciate all you're hard work.
@davidgomez3737
@davidgomez3737 Жыл бұрын
Same
@utahcountypicazospage5412
@utahcountypicazospage5412 Жыл бұрын
Go Texas speed you won’t regret it with less oil pressure still did better lol
@colephillips881
@colephillips881 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a test on the BFD chop monster cam there’s nothing out there also do you think lower oil pressure hurt the power output?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
lower oil pressure likely helped the power output
@christophermix6845
@christophermix6845 Жыл бұрын
Still waiting for a Tick performance towMax cam test. Haha
@Jgrimeshotrod
@Jgrimeshotrod Жыл бұрын
I have the tow master in my 06 hd 2500 and it performs amazing and has a mean idle to it
@christophermix6845
@christophermix6845 Жыл бұрын
@@Jgrimeshotrod I know it's a good cam, just really curious how it competes against these cams. Either way if I ever cam my work truck I'll probably go with the towMax regardless.
@billblount7854
@billblount7854 Жыл бұрын
​@Jgrimeshotrod From what I've seen on here on KZbin I really like the lopeyness of the tow max. I prefer more of a lopey sound than chop.
@christophermix6845
@christophermix6845 Жыл бұрын
@@billblount7854 I like the sound of it more as well.
@james10739
@james10739 Жыл бұрын
Looked like you did a helicoil which works but if it's my stuff and I know about it I just tap it to a bigger size if I can get away with it like I had a striped out exhaust manifold bolt and did that taped it to something SAE so it's a different looking bolt not that hard to notice but u get there are some times when you would not want to do that
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
not much room for that on the top bolt-helicol is fine but I also got time serts just in case
@jbeasley2528
@jbeasley2528 Жыл бұрын
That helicoil repair is stronger than the bolt in this case. If your exhaust manifold is going into aluminum the helicoil repair would be stronger than the original aluminum bolt hole. Plus that way you keep the standard bolt sizes and not one odd bolt
@MrBlackbutang
@MrBlackbutang Жыл бұрын
They all have a special purpose!
@xjbeater8638
@xjbeater8638 Жыл бұрын
If your going for sound with mild lift imo iw the summit. Its so choppy and just sounds nasty. Ive heard in person the chopacabra amd the btr st3 truck cam.
@colinrosenthal4296
@colinrosenthal4296 Жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw the word chopachabra I know I had to watch.
@utahcountypicazospage5412
@utahcountypicazospage5412 Жыл бұрын
Why do cam checkers keep coming up with 216-227 109 on the truck Norris and this shows how good the chopacabra is with nothing to hide lol
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
1 guy has said that-it is not accurate
@timdontwannasay5889
@timdontwannasay5889 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Richard!
@gto.eduardo958
@gto.eduardo958 Жыл бұрын
getting ready to order a cam just not sure which one between chopacabra or truck norris, stock converter and a daily driver, looking for power all around. leaning towards the truck norris as of right now. also if i ever have to drop my transmission for any reason i will put in a better torque converter i mean you’re already there why not
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
there is no bad choice there
@NavyNate123
@NavyNate123 Жыл бұрын
Save yourself 70 bucks and grab the summit cam.
@stevenbalusik8997
@stevenbalusik8997 Жыл бұрын
@@NavyNate123 The only problem with the Summit cam is the really aggressive lobe (.600" lift). The .553" lift cams can use a $95 LS3 replacement springs whereas the Summit cam requires a more expensive valve springs. So, you end up spending the same amount of money in the end.
@stevenbalusik8997
@stevenbalusik8997 Жыл бұрын
Customer who have used the type of cams in this test typically don't like how they drive with a stock torque converter. I recommend a 2600-2800 stall with these cams.
@2bmoto555
@2bmoto555 Жыл бұрын
How about the melling mtc-7 and 8 cams? I know the 7 is on the mild side but haven’t seems much info on it.
@Brandon-oh9uy
@Brandon-oh9uy Жыл бұрын
why 80lb injectors ? whats it actually using at wot ? are 40lb not big enough for this setup ?? im going with chopacabra on an lm7 and id appreciate your input boss 💯
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
THE BIGGER INJECTORS HURT NOTHING, WE ALSO RUN BOOST ON THIS MOTOR
@ChurchAutoTest
@ChurchAutoTest Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing some testing of the TSP Honey Badger cam. Only reason I haven't cammed my CTSV LSA setup is because I really want something with near stock idle quality and without the low rpm losses of the LS9 cam. I've now tested 2 Honey Badger setups in recent weeks and with an idle speed of 750 rpm or so they sound almost stock. TSP claims about 50-60 hp on a bolt-ons LSA setup at 13 psi and similar gains on an NA setup too. Both the LSA setups I tested were pushing 750-800 whp on ported stock blowers on E85 which is pretty nice while retaining stock idle quality. If the cam gets the Holdener seal of approval in a head to head test I may just buy one.
@davidtaylor5082
@davidtaylor5082 Жыл бұрын
Hey Richard do you ever worry about the timing chain slack
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
every ls I have ever run has that
@RipPimpCScrewstonTX
@RipPimpCScrewstonTX Жыл бұрын
Any downside to daily driving a cammed out 6.2 truck?
@Statikdeleonnn
@Statikdeleonnn 7 күн бұрын
Is cam motion little chopper a better cam than tsp stage 4 high lift cam & tsp 228r and tsp 228/232 for a 4.8L ?
@thunderbolt2277
@thunderbolt2277 Жыл бұрын
wish this test was on the 6 liter. who agrees ?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
STARTS HIGHER AND ENDS HIGHER
@alanfrye2706
@alanfrye2706 Жыл бұрын
I hope you'll do this with a more commonly used truck manifold like a stock l59 or a tbss. For the lower torque production
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
results are the same-just starts and ends lower
@michaelmajor5467
@michaelmajor5467 7 ай бұрын
I've had 2 cams from cammotion fail. Lobes falling apart?
@jmtmotorsports3173
@jmtmotorsports3173 Жыл бұрын
I also wish you did this on a 6.0.. 😢
@stevenbalusik8997
@stevenbalusik8997 Жыл бұрын
We ran the Lil' Lope on a 6.0, here is a link showing the dyno results.
@SMOKEY-JAYS-DIESEL
@SMOKEY-JAYS-DIESEL Жыл бұрын
What Cam sounds the best with a single s475 turbo setup?
@petermuller161
@petermuller161 Жыл бұрын
Which camshaft has the best name??
@Justls1v8parts
@Justls1v8parts Жыл бұрын
Hi Richard im in the process of buying a set of dart pro 1 ls1 15 degree 225cc heads. Run with the truck norris camshaft, and the ls6 standard intake. Is this to much head vs the 241s My goal is tourqe with some added hp Thank-you Aaron.
@Justls1v8parts
@Justls1v8parts Жыл бұрын
Or the same result. Im still learning.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
they are not too big-should work well
@Justls1v8parts
@Justls1v8parts Жыл бұрын
Awesome Thank-you i watch alot of your videos and have to go hunting those 5.7 ls videos but in general they guide in the similar fashion. Would you recommend changing the exhaust standard manifolds to some headers just with whats on car now it sounds good and nice deep no crackling sound like the ls engine is common for.
@manitoublack
@manitoublack Жыл бұрын
The reality is that a grind to your specs cost no extra than a 'shelf' grind in most cases. So speak to your cam grinder of choice and get them to cut you the cam right for you.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
no need for any custom cam in this range
@racingjunk7024
@racingjunk7024 Жыл бұрын
Waste of money unless your going full out .
@ryanhuddleston5132
@ryanhuddleston5132 Жыл бұрын
What stall would be the recommended stall on a 5.3 chopacabra with long tubes/ dailey driver, maybe a even a torqestorm sc later
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
YOU CAN USE STOCK, BUT I WOULD GO MORE (2500 )
@ryanhuddleston5132
@ryanhuddleston5132 Жыл бұрын
That's perfect you are the God of the cams appreciate it so much man
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