Who Makes the Better GMT Watch? - Longines Zulu Time & Tudor Black Bay Pro Comparison

[@perpetuality]

As some commentators have pointed out- the Longines Zulu Time does indeed have an adjustable GMT hand. Which makes it a true travellers GMT- a detail that was missed in the video. Thank you all.

[@facelessbot963]

An adjustable GMT hand makes it an office GMT

[@KC-bv9kf]

@@facelessbot963 I cannot take any watch reviewer seriously when they can’t differentiate a true/traveler gmt vs an office/caller gmt.

[@christianbautista321]

Also the spirit zulu time does reference from an archived historic model for pilots in 1929. Do your damn research!

[@Imadolphin983]

Longines “Zulu Time” wrist watch with secondary time zone 1925. Longines pocket watch dual time zones 1908 with patents made 1911

[@AndyAdventuring]

@@facelessbot963 You are correct an adjustable GMT hand would make it an office GMT. I'm not sure why @perpetuality made this mistake. The Zulu Time does not have an isolated GMT hand. The hour hand is isolated. The Zulu Time is a traveler GMT.

[@Slanovich]

The Longines has no history?? Longines came out with dual time zone watches years before anybody else including Rolex. Sure it's not a 1:1 reissue of a historical model, but Longines definitely has history.

[@p.a.4928]

I agree ! It can be useful "to read the horological history" before starting this comparative video... 😉

[@vunguyenchannel]

He talked about this specific Zulu GMT watch not Longines

[@Cybex.]

Yesss👍🏼

[@i_read_bad_reviews]

He spent all time editing the over used coffee shop vibe, there was no time for learning.

[@seanhickling7340]

Dude, 95% of watch brands have more history than Rolex! Wilsdorf and Davis was founded in London in 1905 then changed the name to Rolex in 1908.

[@rhoever]

Great review although I don’t think you clearly showed that the Longines is also a traveller GMT. I think you should have showed that the hour hand on it is also set independently. Both great watches, my choice is the Zulu Time.

[@LectioDivina33]

Agree 👍

[@chriskvikstad4980]

I completely agree. He skipped right over that very important detail and only highlighted the rotating bezel. A few commenters in the discussion section here don't know this and have wrongfully criticized the watch, not knowing that it's actually a true traveler GMT movement, just like the Tudor. They discuss it in detail on their Zulu Time website. It's a nice review, otherwise. 👍

[@4watchingvids]

I just saw the zulu for the first time in person and it's awesome. Definitely made my mind up and I'll be picking it up

[@perpetuality]

Thanks for bringing this up Rick. A detail I missed in production but had thought I covered it in my head. The Longines does indeed have an adjustable GMT hand that is indicative of a travellers GMT. It functions very much the same to the Tudor albeit with a rotatable bezel for tracking an additional time zone

[@davidhabjanic3032]

Butt the Longines has not a jumping date like the tudor when its switch the date right?

[@bryansimmons4020]

Longines completely killed it with the Zulu Time. Love the ceramic bezel vs steel bezel lib with blue sunburst dial vs flat black on Tudor. 3 color options for Longines and 1 for Tudor. Love how the leather bands are micro adjustable, who has that at this piece point?!? Nobody but Longines. It’s twice the total watch for the money.

[@Disco170]

Two stunning watches, but I find the Longines amazingly beautiful. It shows great quality and original design. Considering the materials used and the comparable movements, the price difference seems to be in favor of the Longines.

[@perpetuality]

Couldn’t agree more with you Arthur. Thank you very much for watching and commenting

[@squinkygordon1322]

I like the Longines better too! For me personally, I think having three snowflake hands on the Tudor is just too much... I think it could be a nicer design if they had just made the second hand tip round like the indices. Or, they could've borrowed the orange pointer GMT hand from the Rolex Explorer 2 and left the other two snowflake hands as they are, but that would've opened a can of worms with a comparison to the Rolex... but it still would've looked better (imho). The Tudor is still a beautiful watch and I really like the toolish look of it, but for some reason the three snowflake hands makes it too busy for my eyes. I think the Longines is gorgeous and a refreshingly new take on a GMT watch. But on the other hand, if resale value is a concern, I'm sure the Tudor would win all day long.

[@david12990]

I really struggled on which one to purchase. Both watches are really good, but went with the BB Pro in the end. The AD had it in the configuration (band) I wanted. So far the thickness nor weight have been an issue on my 7.5 in wrist.

[@mariog7213]

@@david12990 you can’t go wrong with either. It’s a great watch. If the longines had a similar clasp than the Tudor it would be an easier choice for me. I’ve tried on the Zulu time but haven’t been able to try on the pro so I’m still undecided.

[@RabidMortal1]

Tudor has better bracelet, clasp, AND a true GMT movement (can't believe this video doesn't make a bigger point of this fact regarding the movement--this is a HUGE difference here!) Both are great for sure, but the added refinements of the Tudor are very real.

[@SeanAlexanderJournalist]

I do think there is a $1,200 difference in quality.... but it is the Longines Zulu that should be $1,200 MORE expensive than the Black Bay. What a phenomenal watch from a way-under-appreciated manufacture.

[@bikeman123]

Usually my grail watch changes every few weeks but the Zulu time has been my grail for over 12 months now. The new 39mm is pretty perfect.

[@robinmarples5198]

What Longines gives us with the spirit range (spirit 40, spirit titanium, spirit 37, zullu) is more than impressive.

[@perpetuality]

The spirit chronograph is also a very nice watch- the new pioneer edition too

[@timemeasured9137]

Despite the overwhelming popularity of the BBPro, the Zulu looks better and more versatile and lastly better value for $.

[@pokpongl]

Not sure if many agree that it looks better. The design and layout does make it looks cheaper.

[@xfortysd40]

Have to disagree, the bb pro imo blows away the Zulu, not even close in looks

[@pokpongl]

@@xfortysd40 right, as a copy of Rolex

[@xfortysd40]

@Pokpong Lawansiri to a point sure, so what, what's Tudor anyway? Second, what's your point, eod, the bb pro looks hella better then the Longines.

[@pokpongl]

@@xfortysd40 No taste imo. Just save up and get a Rolex. And most don't agree that it looks better.

[@dannyg6592]

Excellent review. If Longines had a 39mm Zulu Time with a shorter lug to lug in its catalog, I'd buy it.

[@irishwatchenthusiast6647]

Rumours are that Longines will be releasing a smaller version of the ZT in the not too distant future.

[@alexeng4680]

@@irishwatchenthusiast6647 i pray for it to be true!

[@acethis]

I just wish Zulu has a female end links. It would have made it more wearable.

[@seayak]

they have now release 39 mm versions in the same colour variations as the 42 mm.

[@paullinge4154]

I tried both, my wrist is just over 7inc and the 39mm wore to small. Looked smaller than my Tudor bb 36

[@pieters3624]

The zulu looks way better if you ask me. Apparently this Tudor model is popular but to me it looks cheap and i don't like the metallic bezel

[@V8Hungry]

I tried a BB58 recently and it felt cheap to me, I’m probably spoilt with my Seamaster and obviously a big price difference but I was disappointed with the Tudor

[@zioromesp4991]

Simple, if you want the real GMT in the history of watchmaking, take Longines Zulu Time. Everything else is boring.

[@SP-nx8qx]

That dial on the Longines looks extremely 3D to me, I think it's because their movement is very flat and that allows them a lot of room to apply those raised numerals and logos/stars. It's beautiful, it catches the light from all sorts of directions, I saw it in person recently and I must admit it's hard to get it out of my mind.

[@XHobbiesPrime]

The Zulu time is simply a nicer looking watch in my eyes. I really hate Tudor hands, and even discounting the hands I just think the Zulu simply looks better and is more versatile.

[@JuanSegarra-td6yr]

I picked up the Pro. I got it unworn on Belez for 3500 in 2023. It’s come down in 2024. It’s a beautiful watch I’ll changed the strap with a RUBBERB. It’s lighter with the strap.

[@mvhdsk1122]

2:20 no history for the Zulu Time? It hurts to see such flawed research in an otherwise good video. As watchilove put it: "Its origins and its name come from the first Longines dual-time zone wristwatch manufactured in 1925, which featured the Zulu flag on its dial." Yes, the looks are reworked, but theres your history - easily almost a 100 yrs for this one, and it also easily predates the Tudor or it's Rolex reference. Also, sorry, but what is going on here that you mention the "travellers GMT" functionality for the Tudor but you don't say that Longines does exactly the same? As if Longines was a caller GMT - but both are "true" GMTs.

[@SniperMan5858]

I just can't get over the UGLY hands on the Tudor watches. I can't look past it no matter how good the quality is. It's like the hour and second hands have pimples on them. They ruin the whole watch for me.

[@WilliamBoyd-q5b]

This guy doesnt know the GMT hand on the Longines is adjustable, and doesnt even know the history of Longines but yet hes making a comparison video? Yikes .. hooe no one takes this guy seriously

[@josetula7716]

Well based just on looks Longines = pure class Tudor = rugged tool watch

[@perpetuality]

Thats a great way to put it. They represent those values well

[@agill2103]

The longines is an original the tudor is just a rolex copy.

[@pogamassing9586]

Fortunately I am in a market where I was able to try on both a BB GMT and the Zulu Time (not the BB Pro, so not a perfect comparison). I had expected to get the Tudor, but the side slabs didn't sit well on my wrist. I ended up leaving with the the Longines. I'd take either in a heartbeat though.

[@mkyhou1160]

Those side slabs are a big flaw the Tudor, I sold my BB GMT as they bugged me over time. Loving my new Zulu time.

[@OnetoWatch]

That is a great comparison review of both watches David! Also the quality of the videography is of professional standard!! 👏 Both excellent watches and I think you really couldn’t go wrong with either ⌚️👌👌 And tbh it’s tough choosing - in fact you couldn’t blame anyone having both in their collection! For me I think I’d choose the Longines as it is original, is a little bit bigger for my 7.25” wrist, and being a fair bit cheaper definitely gives some funds towards your next watch - perhaps a mighty Grand Seiko!! 👌🙌

[@perpetuality]

Dean I appreciate your candid comment as always- you are right you can’t go wrong with either. The Longines and perhaps a manual wind Grand Seiko (think predecessor to the SBGW231) would make a killer collection I think

[@FriendlyPalestinian]

You can get the 39mm one now!!

[@Kalmar917]

Both great but I would go with Tudor. For me it looks better and is wear it and forget about it. It will last longer and take more of a beating while still looking good as it ages and comes to life with every Nick and cranny.

[@perpetuality]

Good point a well worn Tudor always looks cool

[@seanhickling7340]

Longines 100%

[@r.sakarollsafe1285]

2:15 Zulu time does not have history? bruhhhhh... do you even know why the name "Zulu" is even there? hahahaha

[@AverageBros]

I'll keep my GS SBGM245 over these two, but excellent comparo!

[@perpetuality]

That’s a great watch you have! Wouldn’t fault you for that call Thanks for watching 😃

[@XHobbiesPrime]

That Longines is stunning. The Tudor....has snowflake hands. So back to the Longines. They seem to be making some really nice watches.

[@kosmonument2682]

Ignorance runs amok in this silly video. Longines is one of the originals.

[@chickenporkadob0]

Longines looks better and classier but a little too big for me. Tudor is all rounder. i pick longines.

[@saneepeopleonly]

The price difference is obvious in that the Longines looks $1200 more than the Tudor. The finish of the Tudor hands have a lot of imperfection but is invisible to Tudor die hards. Tudor pedigree relies too much on Rolex so I’ve yet to see a review where Rolex is not invoked. Objectively, Longines is the better watch; but due to social contagion, I have a couple of Tudors 😃. Definitely add a couple of Longines to my collection.

[@perpetuality]

Well said. There is a spot in every collection for both a Tudor and a Longines I think! Thank you for watching and commenting

[@antonhallergren588]

Yeah Longines makes better watches just in general than modern Tudors. Maybe not the hydrconquest or the conquest but there literally 1/3rd of the price of most Tudors and a Tudor isn't twice the watch a Hydrconquest is. Tudor makes great watches but omega makes better watches for not that much more and Longines makes watches equal or higher in quality for less. Although I have to say that the Tudor BB ceramic and the pelly are fantastic and BB chrono and heritage Chrono. Tudor needs to drop a Tudor submariner and a mini sub with basic sw200 or 2824s for 2000 dollars imo.

[@jonathanscott5252]

Love both of these watches. The BB Pro may find its way into my collection at some point but it really is just an homage to my favorite piece - my 16550 Rolex Explorer II (Alpine/Cream dial). I have a black dial Submariner 168000 and never felt the pull to add a black dial Ex II to the box… though for less than half the price, I could add the Tudor. I already have my eye on the Pepsi BB GMT. What a stunning bezel. Now… the Longines. What a home run. Best new piece for 2022 imho. Saw the giant electronic ads in the Oculus in NYC on my way from the Davidoff lounge to the 1 train and fell in love at first sight. Walked right into the Longines shop and got one of the first green bezel/leather strap “livery” that had hit the store. Could not be happier with that watch. I know $3K is a bunch of money but, in the watch world, that piece is an absolute bargain. The finish on that watch has vaulted Longines into the arena with the biggest names. Next to everything else in my case, that is the one people ask about the most. Well done and huge props to Matthias Breschan, Giuseppe Miccio, and the rest of the artisans at Longines.

[@davidb9531]

Amazing video as always, the Pro is a v weird piece for me, I dogged it as lazy and generic till I saw it in the metal, the finishing on the bezel and the lume plots are incredible and I love it to bits, so much so I’ve shifted out most of my other gada watches

[@perpetuality]

I am glad you found it to be an objectively excellent piece for you in every measure! It’s all about judging the watch for what it is first hand I think that is so valuable. Enjoy it in good health David!

[@TruckeeDoggo]

Wish Longines would lose those distracting "stars" on the dial. Reminds me of an Amazon review, with the Longines Zulu arrogantly giving itself five stars.

[@ilmostro16]

Beautiful video! Besides the clasp, the Longines looks more expensive and prettier. I also wish it was a 40mm. By the way, in saying “Longines”, the S is silent. So it’s just “lawn-geen”.

[@perpetuality]

Thank you! Learning every day 😃

[@justinlowe337]

The longines is so beautiful. I would own this over the Tudor anyday of the week personally.

[@danwolfe7665]

The Tudor looks boring in comparison.

[@paulbrooke3838]

The Longines has significantly more history than the Tudor in the gmt/Zulu question. Longines were the 1st watchmaker to produce a dual timezone in 1908 for the Ottoman empire in a pocket watch, and in a wristwatch format in the 1920's withe the zulu time wrist watch before rolex was a thing.

[@gullie9004]

Those 2 watches together looks really good. It’s like taking a picture of a submariner and a speedmaster. They just fit well in 1 picture.

[@mkyhou1160]

I just got the Zulu in blue - love it. If your wrist is 7 or up it’s a great fit, slim for a GMT and very comfortable weight. It’s my one and done now. This Tudor has a cool dial but too chunky for its size. I used to own the BB GMT, the Zulu is a better watch.

[@emmanueltsI5]

Both are good and they do functionthe same. But Tudor is Tudor at the end.

[@perpetuality]

No doubt that Tudor has its brand power and behind a powerful sibling to its advantage. Thanks for watching!

[@randomnameindeed]

Tudor is an overrated in-house homage brand. Longines is a much more original brand.

[@malikknows3510]

If the Longines was smaller, I'd have preferred it. Instead, I bought a Black Bay Pro. Thanks for the video!

[@boyblue998]

I agree, but Longines will probably bring out smaller versions just as they did with the Spirit. Patience can be a virtue!

[@ams914]

At first glance the longines looks higher quality. That's my reaction after two seconds.

[@ltrev1979]

i really want the green and gilt longines. ive never wanted a longines before. i love my bb58, but the lro doesnt do it for me

[@NoblesTx]

If you asked a non watch person I’d bet they would think the Tudor looked like a 500$ watch and the longines like a 5k$ watch. But really, the longines is so much nicer looking. Just a beauty.

[@halfsourlizard9319]

But ... why would you ask a non-watch person? They think we're weirdo boomers for wearing a watch, full stop ...

[@Jayteeef]

Thanks for the review! I was all in on the Pro, but the Longines is a very attractive watch. I'm attracted to vintage-style watches and the Longines exudes that esthetic to me. Plus it's accessible...

[@perpetuality]

It’s accessible and can be had at a discount too, which is just the right thing to ask for in a watch that looks great 👍

[@Twin_solo_az]

I picked up the Zulu Time today, that same green bezel model. It is beautiful. A note on size commentary in KZbin watch videos… I have 7.5 inch wrists so 42mm and 50mm lug to lug is perfect fit for me. Not too big at all. Even though they are similar in thickness, the Zulu distributed it in a way that it’s less blocky and seems thinner. But some people might like a blocky look.

[@FurkanCemTurfanda]

Longines made the first dual-time watch, AND the first GMT movement watch. The "Zulu Time" was the first gmt ever, and that's why they named this release "Zulu Time."

[@jadoyon]

Longines now has a 39MM version of it. It clearly is a better watch, especially for the money.

[@robinmarples5198]

For the price. The grand seiko quartz gmt 's

[@EDHBlvd]

BB Pro all day. That said, the Zulu Time is amazing and will hopefully bring more people to the brand. Also, you can buy the Zulu time, whereas the BB Pro you get to wait on a list, possibly never getting a call.

[@pokpongl]

I don't think that is the case. BB Pro is available at all the ADs in Europe. On the other hand, the anthracite dial of Zulu Time requires waiting list in some countries.

[@HaiNguyen-mj5pd]

Excellent comparison and recommendations. I like how legible the Zuzutime is but I love the simplicity of the BBP!

[@ollik8192]

I feel that the Longines is better. I have the blue one and it's awesome. That said, I've only tried the Tudor on.

[@nicklegg61]

Longines blows tudor out the water,but tudor very good.

[@halfsourlizard9319]

I own an Explorer II and a Pepsi GMT II ... What the Ex2 offers that the GMT2 does not is inconspicuousness. People -- including those whom you might not want to -- notice a red/blue-bezel watch on a steel bracelet ... nobody notices the Ex2, which is a benefit in certain contexts. (Generally, though, better to simply not-go places where you can't comfortably/safely wear whatever watch you want.)

[@zelaznamalpa]

Longines have 39mm version. You don't know that?! If you want to compare do with the 39mm version Longines. 🤦🤦🤦🤦

[@geraldserafin2080]

And the ending for a Tudor would and will always be - if you want a Rolex and cant afford it.... go for its look alike, the Tudor. 8n my opinion, Tudor is far from Longines in terms of value, detail and finishing.

[@MauLao]

Great video -- but if you're going to run a channel on watches, you better learn how to pronounce Longines properly (hint: the "s" is silent).

[@Mario-ho5ro]

Longines!!

[@poumpea9371]

Just pick up longines Zulu and love it with no taxes from upper Canada mall

[@halfsourlizard9319]

T-fit is incredible ... can't wait until those patents expire and I can have it on everything.

[@bullwingsc6216]

Love the looks of the Black Bay Pro but hate that 15mm thickness. If that thickness came down to 13.5mm, I would buy it in a heartbeat. Come on Tudor, why so thick?

[@TidesPOV]

Will you be doing a review of the new Longines Zulu Time 39?

[@17-WinterSoldier]

This Longines Spirit Zulu GMT is the most beautiful GMT of all.

[@gars1074]

Great video, thanks for sharing. Can you suggest a good Longines retailer in the GTA ?? ( or Canadian on line seller for this ).Thanks

[@algorithm007ify]

The Black version of the Longines Zulu is the best, with that blue GMT hand pop.

[@LectioDivina33]

Great Video, I bought my Longines Spirit Zulu Time GMT Blue on black on Dec 16 2022 and it is amazing in all aspects. Mine is perfect for my wrist and I actually can't fault it. It looks so elegant & classy and the box is absolutely amazing!!!

[@jeffbrogan6147]

Longines created a GMT watch in the 1920’s…30 years before Rolex!

[@denbou00]

The longines is way more beautiful

[@cheesychester9647]

This is a helpful video. Longines just released a 39mm Zulu Time!

[@waynecastleman1363]

Check out the Jack Mason a true GMT. I love my Zulu Time on leather.

[@davids.2317]

Thanks for the comparison, it's the longines for me..

[@perpetuality]

No denying that it’s a good looking watch thanks for watching!

[@marlonr391]

The best detailed review I have seen, that I can remember anyway. Excellent work, the longines is very Desirable watch but that pro just edges it for me. But then there's the price

[@richrumble]

I need another watch like a hole in the head, but that Longines sure is nice. . .

[@jimlittle5769]

I may have missed it, but one should mention is the on the fly adjustment system when you get the leather strap.

[@naveennegi1885]

Tudor needs to learn to make watches 15 mm thick movement for GMT . 😂

[@syairazihaziq9642]

Now we have a 39mm Zulu Time, perfect watch with a perfect price tag

[@lx95020]

Tudor is a Rolex homage watch company...

[@SkylineBilip]

Unfortunantely I couldn't wear the longines..

[@cheungtingfung5407]

Longines Zulu Time looks better

[@perpetuality]

What really does it for you in terms of the Longines? And thanks for watching!

[@cheungtingfung5407]

The original design is winner absolutely.

[@bobpaulson9r72fk24]

Only seen the intro and already know I’ll love this video!

[@perpetuality]

Hahah evidently the intro is where I have the most fun in making these videos! Thanks so much my friend

[@slayergut]

Pretty sure Longines has a much stronger history and heritage than Tudor

[@gwapogreg5837]

The Black bay pro is an unbalanced brick on your wrist

[@Starstreak170]

Please pronounce Longines correctly. The S is silent.

[@halfsourlizard9319]

Just be glad that it's not a *real* riveted bracelet ... Vintage Rolex / Tudor have their charms ... but the modern watches -- esp the bracelets -- are a bazillion times better than their older counterparts'.

[@halfsourlizard9319]

'Better' in objective terms ... but not necessarily in gestalt ... I own / wear both ... and they scratch very diff itches, so to say.

[@bigbrotherwatchesdannyboy306]

Datewheel issues 😕

[@larrycannon166]

The Tudor is so much cleaner.

[@drewsleyy3836]

Once Longines puts this watch out in 40mm, it’s game over. Hopefully they make some other small tweaks too - would love to see more colors, the light blue hand on the blue sunburst model, a fully lumed bezel, etc. 🤞🏻

[@itsgarrick4910]

Your wish came true

[@drewsleyy3836]

@@itsgarrick4910 woohoo!!! Now we just need more colors!! awesome

[@paulbrooke3838]

Now available in 39mm

[@starlet88sg]

too much reflection on the watches in your video

[@fabiomonticelli3987]

ZULUTIME SO HOT

[@aspenhardware852]

The Zulu is a much better looking watch

[@jimlittle5769]

The Longines all the way.

[@Dark_Asteroid]

Damn, that Longines is beautiful

[@konww002]

Intro music is tip top. What’s the title?

[@vintageswiss9096]

That’s a vote for the Longines from me.

[@perpetuality]

That’s a well placed vote 👍

[@Andre-yu3qs]

Which of the two is more accurate?

[@decluesviews2740]

Even for the same money, I prefer the Longines Zulu time. Granted, I don’t like the Tudor GMT Pro’s look: I prefer the other Black Bay GMT, with the colored bezel. That would be a tougher decision.

[@rickjason215]

Let’s assume the watches are equal, is the Longines warranty still 2 years? I know the Tudor is 5 years. That is a huge difference.

[@perpetuality]

Longines warranty is now 5 years. “Longines extends the warranty to five years on all models using the antimagnetic silicon balance-spring”

[@algorithm007ify]

5 years...Also, lower beat rate = longer service intervals, generally speaking.

[@robertovidal5469]

Longines warranty is 5 years too… but if you buy the Longines in “Watches of Switzerland” they give 3 more years! that’s happened with me when I see 2 warranty cards, I called and they told me that…

[@adik8131]

The Tudor is incredibly ugly

[@nikkolomakaveli8295]

I really like the snowflake hands on the Tudor something about them always stand out to me in a charming way and has much better lume. The Zulu dial is exquisite, the 5 star dial and the rotating bezel make all the difference to me as both watches are true GMT and chronometers. All in all I would side with Longines.

[@halfsourlizard9319]

You *like* the 5-star thing!? It's the only thing that pushes the Zulu 39 out of 'impulse buy NOW' territory for me ...

[@maejorgiessinger]

My experience with NKUWAN was fantastic. The watch arrived quickly and was exactly as described.