Who Invented Bubble Tea?

[@mynameisandong]

I heard you guys loud and clear 😅 Thanks for your feedback. I also have mixed opinions on AI generated images. But I did not expect you to dislike them this much. My goal for them was to help me fill the gaps where the right footage isn't or cannot be available. Will definitely reconsider using them in the future!

[@GTRichardson7]

Thanks for the quick response to this! I love your stuff so this message is very happily received. Keep up the excellent content!

[@chiichan3774]

Don't listen to the haters. AI generated images are fine and in fact, if it makes video production easier, then use it.

[@pawelkicman]

Thanks for taking the feedback and listening to people who want to support you.

[@melbapeach162]

'Reconsider' using them doesn't sound like "I will not be using them again"

[@zentiago_]

It's a pity! 😢 I really appreciate the fact that you used such an amazing tool as AI is. Also because there is a meticulous work behind to achieve that the image is faithful to what one wants to show. It's your decision to reconsider using it in the future, but you have to know that some of us have really appreciated the use of this great resource! ❤🤖

[@RF1702]

I really enjoyed this. However not sure how I feel about the AI images with their weird hands.

[@dolookecki3084]

I was about to comment that. Seeing AI images in these videos is a downgrade. Content creators at this point should be conscious of how predatory AI generators are for other artists that had their photos sucked to the model. And it cheapens the video, it looks fake in a video about history. I would have preferred fewer but well placed stock photos or him just talking.

[@JustSpectre]

Well for content creators it's a choice. Either stock images that are good quality, but paid or AI images that might not be that great, but they are for free and you have much more freedom on what you want to show

[@shankyoncloud7420]

What do you mean weird hands? Is it not normal to have 5 fingers and a thumb or fingers positioning like claws?

[@yoonsikp]

Yeah, I really dislike the AI generated images. They almost ruin the video.

[@ItsMikeLearns]

no they don't... its free to use and you don't have to pay for stock pictures@@yoonsikp

[@puddingpanda3473]

This was a super entertaining and educational video as always, but I found the use of ai-generated images to be kind of off-putting.

[@teemuprkl]

I’ve enjoyed your content for many years so I feel I need to chip in. Nothing wrong with experimenting but like others have already mentioned: the use of AI generated images felt off. I found myself more focused on trying to identify the generated images from the real historical photographs than following the actual history lesson - which I assume was not the intention of the video. It seems historical facts and fake images don’t mix well as there is such a huge contradiction between them. AI generated content _might_ have its place in some illustration cases[1] but even then I’d prefer that it was explicitly indicated somehow (”this teapot does not exist and never has - not even in an artist’s mind”). I think there was also a bit of a pacing issue in some parts of the video; perhaps having access to ”infinite” images drives over-use of them? I.e. instead of showing that one nice and rare real photograph you managed to find to support your narrative, you use the top-3 of the coolest generated images in the same timeslot - which in turn results a more fast-paced video when it really doesn’t need to be. This is of course heavily personal prefence, the TikTok generation might prefer top-5 images instead of just top-3. [1] Here I’m intentionally skipping the debate about ethicality, ownership of AI model training data, should you commission an artist instead etc. as they are such broad topics that they don’t sit well in a scope of a single KZbin feedback comment.

[@kchampz1093]

please no AI images

[@chondro2390]

this video was really informative and interesting as always, but as a historian i really gotta come down on the side against AI art. AI tech does not have any sort of ability to detect truthfulness in its statements or depictions (and in fact struggles a lot with this) i cant help but be afraid that since the AI is basing its images on consensus and not on actual peer reviewed and truthful info, it will just perpetuate misinformation and stereotypes. So great work as always,but if not using AI means fewer images, I would rather that than misinformation. I hope you understand and im a big fan of all your work Edit: Grammer and weird syntax

[@MidoriMushrooms]

I'm glad someone said this.

[@PiTdeLyX]

Man, i knew something was wrong with some of these pictures, they have this painted, AI-like look to it. I would have had no problem imagining these pictures instead of having a "made up" photo in there.

[@NobleCelery]

Great content, not a fan of the AI art though, it was obvious enough that it threw me off, and I would have much preferred to see real art and photos

[@JRCSalter]

Not that obvious. I didn't know about it until I read the comments.

[@vash47]

@@JRCSalter as a rule of thumb, if looks unusually crisp/high quality with few imperfections it's likely AI generated. also AI tends to mess up hands

[@herzogsbuick]

i'm assuming most of those images were generated by AI, because they're quite unsettling

[@penguiin12]

theyre so bad and immersion breaking when stock photos are affordable

[@GTRichardson7]

yeah its quite disappointing to see Andong and his team use AI...

[@herzogsbuick]

@@GTRichardson7 I didn't say I was disappointed, I view AI as a tool. I just don't think the tool was used correctly here. Givin' me the heebeejeebees

[@Xayr]

@@GTRichardson7how is it disappointing to work smarter LOL

[@UndeadVideoProd]

@@GTRichardson7 I’m actually proud of it. He could’ve used royalty free stock photos that no one gets paid for. He’s using it in a way that makes sense Supplementary It’s not like he’s selling a product with it on it

[@jlin7724]

I love how 90+% of the comments are AI related😂 People often overlooked that the bubble tea culture isn’t just tapioca. There’s also passion QQ, lemon jade, oolong honey milk tea, etc. My fave is taro milk tea.

[@SuperCrabbycrab]

Cuz AI suck. it's profiting off datasets, that's taken that data illegally.

[@kingcletus1310]

Oolong honey milk tea sounds really good.

[@zaper2904]

​@@SuperCrabbycrabWon't somebody think of the multi billion dollar stock photo companies 🥺

[@Gormilein]

@@zaper2904 it's those companies trying to make a buck off AI - it's the actual photographers and artists that get shafted in the process because some corporation trains their algorithm on their work illegally.

[@zaper2904]

@@Gormilein the images he uses quite literally are just stock photos that are hoarded by massive companies.

[@penguiin12]

andong, love boba tea, love your vids but the AI "art" is kinda awful and cheapens the video in my opinion

[@GTRichardson7]

Hey Andong, using AI generated images in a video designed to be a History lesson feels quite bad... it not only undercuts the feeling of "truth-fullness" that you actually want to instill in such a video, but it also feels like the erasure of actual events and peoples for the sake of making a speedy video... I thought the video essay was fascinating and well written (the reason i come to watch your stuff!) but i must say that I for one will be unsubscribing if AI continues to be used...

[@tarwin]

Yeah what the hell? I kept thinking something was wrong. Please DO NOT do this. Please. Use real images or nothing 😢

[@FancyBurrito47]

Agreed

[@kayaguvendi]

Cringe

[@OlNoName720]

You cannot mix the AI photos with real photos in your video. Even if the AI is just for the stock images because you're using real photos and footage along side it what happens is we are led to believe the AI photos are also real. It's such an odd choice when there is plenty of stock footage of what you're looking for and even comes across as lazy. Please do better.

[@disconnected7737]

Good information, but the AI art should be substituted for real pictures and paintings

[@pupc0ded]

i love your videos- but the AI generated images in an education video feels very, very wrong. feels like a quick way of creating content besides finding historical photographs that would otherwise fill the role. this is without mentioning the fact that almost every generation was offputting.

[@normloman]

Nice video, but the ai generated inages are creepy

[@JustJimWillDo]

Fascinating story. I'll back the other fans about the AI generated images with their dodgy looking hands, but big props for, right at the start, saying "…the island nation of Taiwan." That might end up causing you more problems than another six-fingered man caused Inigo Montoya!

[@faithkerns1626]

Not even Taiwan claims that Taiwan is a country smh.

[@halldorberg]

you tend to be hesitant to voice your opinion on such matter if it might mean an immediate attack.@@faithkerns1626

[@critterjon4061]

@@faithkerns1626it absolutely does claim it is a country

[@derFischy]

I know it seems like an easy solution to fill space, but please, don't use midjourney or other image creation AIs to create stills. It betrays historical accuracy, for one, and it's pretty awkward at fine detail like hands and how people hold objects. But mainly, it uses the work of thousands of artists without their permission to create images, sometimes with visibly similar results to the source data. If need be, there are a lot of artists who'd be willing to draw the scenes you need for not very much money, and you'd be helping support a community that's frequently thrown under the bus. Something that's clearly an illustration to get the point across would also be a lot less misleading.

[@Not_Qwake]

I do hate AI images and agree it's better to pay an artist for it, but I can't buy into the permission thing. Art is free to use, drawing inspiration from others has always been essential to creating new art

[@derFischy]

@@Not_Qwake This is true when it's another human creating the art, but artificially generated art doesn't have the same intent or ability to synthesize as a human brain. At best, its output can be considered a very advanced form of collage, which again, doesn't have a conscious brain behind the wheel making decisions. Whether or not we can consider that art still is a question with no answer, but I think it's pretty clearly an unethical way to create it, especially when there are lots of artists who, if asked, would be more than happy to help contribute to data sets for this sort of use.

[@wylanvallotton4462]

"you, person who does not have much budget at all, pay a lot to someone else who is likely to use just as much computer generated work to do the same thing for an image you will show for a couple seconds. How dare you, a small creator, value your own work and time over another small creator who you don't know!!! "

[@derFischy]

@@wylanvallotton4462 he has over half a million subs dude, he's gotta be making enough from ad revenue alone to pay at least a couple internet artists for some $15 sketches in a single video

[@Not_Qwake]

@@derFischy How do you discern decision making in humans from a coded and trained AI? I fail to see the relevance of intent/ability to synthesize when humans also do all of these things to some extent, and AIs usually get human input too. I'm not trying to be combative btw, genuinely curious.

[@mitchelldexter7713]

This video is a 9/10! The minis one is for the AI images - it was distracting and unsettling. Otherwise a dope video and food story!

[@ZagnutBar]

Nation! Country! Thanks for acknowledging us this way, Andong :)

[@ivy4360]

Taiwan is not a country whether you like it or not

[@guss77]

I missed Andong's food history rabbit holes...

[@HamsterSoup]

Personally against AI generated "art", although i'm sure it has it's place and is not going away. I have to seriously question the use of it in historical story telling. It was jarring and off putting in an otherwise fantastic video.

[@SuperCrabbycrab]

It's also incredibly biased. If you type something like "successful person" it's a Caucasian male, if you search "thug" it's a black person, if you search "nurse" it's a woman, etc. It's biased and inaccurate, and I agree- setting it in a historical setting is pretty bad.

[@scarletspidernz]

Great video but as others have said mixing AI images/Video with Historical ones is not great, if you have to do it, i would suggest having a label in the corner of the image/video stating "AI Generated" so at least the audience knows clearly whats fake and whats actual photos/video.

[@fantasybone]

I felt weird about the images, too. With other media it's clear what has been fabricated to "fill the gaps" as you say. And I would have thought I might like that, too. However it took me a moment to realise it's even AI generated. When you don't expect it and assume you're looking at regular stock photos of real people or even actual historical images you kind of feel mislead when you suddenly realise, why you have this kind of creeping feeling. I think it would need a disclaimer ehether it historical or not. I also wondered whether there might be biases of how the people look. And the lawsuit images look kind of cartoony. I think as an experiment it's interesting but I would also prefer real images

[@PockASqueeno]

Boba didn’t have a “birth” per se. It had an *evolution.*

[@nyatto]

Thanks for the history lesson Andong! I love me some classic bubble tea (with 30% sugar 😅). Something I noticed while travelling through Europe is how a lot of bubble tea shops have replaced traditional tapioca pearls with bursty syrups bubbles. I feel it's a clear downgrade and those boba shops all left me pretty disappointed. I'm curious what made this (d?)evolution take place.

[@ThePichu172]

Interesting video but please reconsider using AI images in the future

[@woolfel]

I love boba tea. On a hot Taiwan day, boba hits the spot. Historically, Taiwan has been the place where people would escape after they lost a war.

[@JaelA]

Thank you for an another great culinary history lecture.I don't like bubble tea, but the history of that drink was very interesting🧋

[@sirisongbird]

Right? I haven't tried it but it seems kind of "yucky"

[@rhicrtr]

Great food history video as usual. The AI images were really distracting and awkward though. Also important to remember they pull from real images people created, so the ethics are not great

[@bronxelf]

Oh I've missed these historical deep dives. Awesome.

[@KarimElHayawan]

Really disappointed with the AI "art" use Andong. Way to insult your fellow creators and audience man. Edit: Appreciate the response Andong.

[@andywira]

I always love your historical deep dive videos, but as others have said, the AI generated art in a history oriented video is not a good decision. I hope Andong and your team reconsider this in future videos, looking forward to more videos.

[@PotatoForABrain]

Just a side note on the name of "Boba", I've actually not heard anyone in Taiwan actually calling it 波霸 (boba), instead I hear more of 珍珠 (pronounced as "zhen zhu", if directly translated to English as pearl). It is speculated that it was originally called 珍珠 but a bubble tea shop in Tainan (south of Taiwan) used the term 波霸, which could also be translated as a girl with big breasts, as the name for their drink as their tapioca balls are extra big. BUT I've only read online forums or websites and not actual historical sources for this, so YYML.

[@kcx_crypto]

boba (波霸) as well as 珍珠 (zhen zhu) are both used in taiwan.

[@perongeIuk]

Please don't use Ai images, I expected better from you Andong

[@nenben8759]

🤣 but y

[@klimtkahlo]

How can one tell which are AI images?

[@Potatoes9000]

kinda bummed by all the ai art

[@kraweel]

oh my god i hate these AI images so friggin much. Besides the fact that the video didnt need THAT many quick cut pictures anyways ... you barely had time to look at them

[@camillosteuss]

Still better Boba Fett material than Disney gave us...

[@abrarsetiawan5587]

AI "art" is is deep down there in the uncanny valley so watching those AI generated images sends my caveman brain to flight or fight mode

[@feedbackzaloop]

So what it necessary now is to create true German potato-bubble coffee

[@Brok3nC4rrot]

sooo....Kartoffelknödel im Kaffee?

[@user-mn4yb8ve7h]

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[@sirisongbird]

Yuck?

[@rebel.taylord]

Yesss it's back! I missed you covering food history! I've been drinking bubble tea for 23 years but never know it's history so thank you for this video, this was informative and interesting! For anyone who hasn't tried condensed milk + evaporated milk in coffee, tea, milo or hot chocolate, give it a shot, I promise you're missing out lol

[@mylesjude233]

Awesome History Food Video mate. Didn't know that Bubble Tea had such a rich history 😊 🎉

Dosha fanboy here. But when I first had cheese tea in HK years ago, that's just 🎉

[@StrawberryGirl3333]

I just wanna go on a trip to Berlin to have Dosha again 😭

[@Dzerom-on2zh]

I agree with the other commenters. Plase lay off the AI images.

[@ChRiSs27CrOsS]

Endlich wieder ein food history Video

[@travissharpe8238]

I'm surprised this video has such a low viewership count. This is a well made, interesting and informative video.

[@ReNeyer]

I'd rather have a "talking head video" than the AI-frenzy slideshow I just witnessed.

[@imrvn]

Came down here to see whether anyone else noticed the AI images or if I should be the one to point that out. Oh boy... 🤣🤣

[@joyfulstar]

I'm a chinese hokkien Singaporean and I love tea, and bubble tea. This is an incredibly well researched video. Also, we pronounce sago as "say-go" :) Love your content as always, andong!

[@user-fj9hf4bu9f]

I think the Eskimos invented Bubble Tea

[@lindenis9119]

Taiwan is an island, not an island nation

[@dejectedfrogcat2840]

As your social credit accountant, I must warn you that your social credit account is dangerously close of bankruptcy.

[@milkywayay]

Honestly, as a former creator, finding images and material for niche topics such as boba tea is hard. I support your efforts to make your content more lively and picturesque. Ai is a great tool for this. You’ll find your middle ground with it where you’ll be able to incorporate it accordingly. Good job.

[@heroino89]

Amazing video!!! I don't mind the AI images at all, I have just been yearning for another "Let me explain".

[@JustSpectre]

Content like this is the reason I love your channel. Great story and narration and lots of amazing information

[@Sturmpfad]

This! That's why I stick to your channel and why I made an abo.. because of the real cool history vids! :D

[@gizanked]

For some reason around me everyone says they have boba/bubble tea. But they actually have "bursting bubble tea" which is more of a juice filled ball that pops and isn't chewy. And the milk tea is usually some fruit flavored tea. So frustrating that I bought my own tapioca flour and big straws to make some of own.

[@lonergothonline]

loved the video, sidenote: if it makes the video more efficient to produce I'm all for A.I generated imagery, like others' said you need a quick disclaimer saying something like "This image is used for illustrative purposes only and is not a factual image".

[@oncedidactic]

Thank you for the comprehensive history!

[@laserwolf65]

I'm glad so many people like the stuff. I'm happy it brings you joy. Me, though? The texture skeeves me out.

[@ragnarok953]

the ai use here seems unprofesionally because it is used as historically accurate images.

[@Elchansan]

Like the attempt at a new style, but it's jarring/distracting when every few seconds another image pops up that makes me instinctively think "Something isn't right here."

[@michelhv]

You missed the role of Assam in the development of tea culture in the British empire.

[@mylesjude233]

Mind giving me a short synopsis 🙏

[@michelhv]

@@mylesjude233 The British used to buy so much tea from China that their coffers were getting depleted of money since China didn't buy much from Britain in exchange (this trade imbalance also led to the Opium Wars, but we're getting sidetracked). So they were looking for a way to keep the money flowing to their advantage. When they found an indigenous variety of tea growing in Assam in early 19thC (which belonged to their Empire), they opened plantations. This was a rustic, tough brew, but it had quality issues, so they ended up smuggling tea plants and seeds from China into India, which eventually led to the creation of Darjeeling, and the refinement of Assam varieties. Ceylon used to be a coffee production site, but by the 1860s, plantations were ravaged by disease, and then the British converted these coffee plantations to tea, since they had built the expertise and the varietal stock from their tea plantations in India. Hence, Assam gave rise to the strong, tannic varieties that are the basis of milk teas enjoyed in Britain, India, Sri Lanka, Hong Kong, and now everywhere.🍵🫖🧋

[@mylesjude233]

@michelhv Thanks for the history summarization, it was real informative 👍

[@AHG1347]

Watching this video with my Soundcore wireless ear buds and drinking milk tea 😂...

[@mendicus3601]

I will be honest, andong i really don't find any problem putting ai generated images, and they weren't intrusive.

[@Hydrantchan]

You really felt the need to AI generate dozens of photos of boba and edit it in next to real images? Homie, there are plenty of real stock images of boba. The AI just looks real uncanny and feels weird next to archival images. Real disappointed.

[@sirisongbird]

I'm not sure if I'm ready to try this lol I've been on the fence since it came out!

[@TheKeranor]

these kinds of videos are why I subscribed :) thank you for the content!

[@zujostix]

well i'm lost in the first 20 seconds. never heard of bubble tea. but then again i'm probably living under a rock. anyway you have my curiosity

[@sebastianmoreno2162]

Always love these history videos!! I can't wait for the next one!!!

[@oscarli3232]

Indeed that British brought the milk tea to Hongkong and later on affected the bubble Tea. But, for sure they are not the first one add milk into the tea. Please also check Suutei tsai also know as mongolian salty tea or butter tea which come from Tibet.

[@fabiancbarrio]

What a journey. Thank you Andong!

[@johnboy20xx]

AI art/photos are not the way to go, man. I love your videos, but these photos really break the immersion of an informative video that is supposedly historical and make it seem less reliable.

[@dolookecki3084]

Yeah, I dislike them, but reading the comments, it's true that using them in an historical video reeks of deep fake, it cheapens it in various fronts.

[@EM-yp1cf]

The AI images you used are extremely obvious, they're too good for that time! I like your content, I went down the spaetzle rabbit hole and love asian cuisine - that's how the almighty algorythm served me your content.

[@ElenaTaneva]

Andong is like a walking encyclopedia..

[@SeraphimKnight]

Gotta love how anker rebranded as soundcore so that the bad PR from their terrible actions euphy wouldn't touch their audio product line.

[@StrawberryGirl3333]

Wait what did they do? Couldn’t find anything on Google

[@SeraphimKnight]

@@StrawberryGirl3333 basically their euphy line of home security that was touted as "offline" and "wouldn't ever put your images on the web"... didn't do that. Plus it was super easy to hack into from outside the network. They denied the whole affair and tried to push it under the rug as a misunderstanding.

[@StrawberryGirl3333]

@@SeraphimKnightooh that's bad, now I understand ypur comment

[@cloverhighfive]

Intro: The invention of Bubble tea was inevitable. me: pff lol clickbait end of video, me: OMG IT WAS INEVITABLE

[@anahidkassabian4471]

Also, neither link to the soundcore products works from the UK. ☹️

[@jakimartin]

The ai images didn't brother me, I'm gonna watch this again to see what everyone is talking about

[@nicoskefalas]

Aww man I was going to make a video about this.. Anw I am sure that it wouldn’t compete to your level of production!😂

[@petkogeorgiev2103]

I actually didn't have any issues with the images in the video. I personally feel like this is one of the best applications on this tech and it doesn't even look bad. I didn't notice the images being creepy or something, though I didn't stare at them. I suppose I'm in the minority here. Props for listening to the community though.

[@ReviveHF]

Bubble Tea is pretty much like the Singaporean/Malaysian version of Ice Cendol, it's a combination of different ideas and different cultures from South Asia, Western Europe, South East Asia and the Far East due to trade and diplomacy throughout history : 1. China had been cultivating and brewing tea leaves since 3000 years ago, tea played an important role in China's hegemony 2. Cassavas were brought over to Asia from the Americas from the 1500s 3. China exported tea to the West since 1500s, China monopolized the tea exportation until the British smuggled out tea cultivation techniques from China in the 1850s 4. The British introduced the milk tea beverages to SEA and Hong Kong, in Malaysia there's a variant called Teh Tarik 5. The Chinese immigrants on the Formosa Island combine the Tapiocas and milk tea combo to create bubble tea around in the 1980s. 6. The "Boba" word might have came from Hong Kong Also, shaved Ice and Ice Cream had been manufactured and consumef by the Chinese people since around 3000 years ago.

[@nicholasblay8343]

lose the AI pictures, they are jarring and also a form of misinformation, some border on offensive.

[@zell189]

I don't know why everyone is talking about the morality behind AI art when the video is about Boba Tea Nice video as always Andong

[@crajabli]

Nice video but id appreciate it if you didn't use ai images :(

[@lewismaddock1654]

Sagu (tapioca pearls) is very common in Brazilian deserts, where Tapioca actually originates from. It was probably taken around by the Portuguese, you may have read this. We have a fantastic Sagu wine desert!

[@erdnusslocke6059]

Your channel is a true treasure on a platform full of mindless content. Thank you for being awesome!

[@ellaalexeisdaughter2636]

BRO NOT THE NEUROARTS

[@MilanRoska]

I am wondering where the introduction of cheap plastic straws comes into the picture in this evolution. I would guess that was another gigantic boost for the drink. Drinking bubble tea without a straw is not even close satisfaction wise. I guess a spoon could help, but still the fun comes with a straw.

[@amansaxena5898]

Ok so, I wasn't at all bothered by those generated image. I was just immersed in this fun story. People in the comments are really overblowing the issue

[@Medbread]

0:28 goodbye Andong's social credit LOL As a Taiwanese person I'm really happy you made this video

[@Knko]

Woahhh I bought a new pair of the Anker by Soundcore P3 life a few days ago and i can say They are 🔥

[@laurak7247]

I feel like I'm the only one in the room who didn't notice/mind the AI images until looking into the comment.

[@diecastmodelhub]

had my first boba at a food truck a few weeks ago and man oh man was I hooked!

[@__utama6351]

Cendol originates from ancient Javanese already existing from ancient scripture of the dessert thus making it Indonesian in origin

[@JanusXX]

The tapioca balls come from Brazil. We call it sagu and it is a really really old process. We make desserts with it.

[@abehme]

Hey cool, do you also know how they got to asia? Did brazil have some trading routes to china? Or was it maybe more of that thing where different cultures all have similar basic products (like how almost ervery culture has some kind of flat bread and dumpling)?

[@JanusXX]

@@abehme the root vegetable and the knowledge on how to process it went by boat.

[@iworms]

I didn't even notice some images were AI generated until reading the comments. To me they're no different from cheap, meaningless stock images. So I don't mind them.

[@alpha512]

Great video but I do hope more proper images than AI generate, or even less AI images, the AI images kinda ruin the video flow, I enjoy it but just use proper images found on google

[@cmbaz1140]

Never had boba... Never will... 😂😂😂

[@InTeCredo]

Admittedly, I have never tried the bubble tea despite the runaway popularity of them...

[@VEC7ORlt]

Oh, now I'll at least know what that is.