Who's Lila? - Horror Game Where You Use Your Face To Talk smile plz [ 1 ]

[@ManlyBadassHero]

Welcome to the Who's Commenting? Club, how Who's Commenting? are ya? *Part 2 of the series is here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5mZqaidnM1sr6M

[@ritzandii1846]

Im commenting 🦤

[@PamelasEngel]

Commenting are I

[@Player-ll7qm]

Im commenting bro

[@Voidalot]

*I'm commenting Manly Kun.*

[@deft9nes]

i am very Who's Commenting today, hbu?

[@flamingo2202]

Holy cow that movement on the face is unnerving. Interesting way to go about this kind of game though. Gives you the sense of the person in the game truly is just a puppet

[@Honey_Daddy]

It's a gold mine found in the heart of the uncanny valley.

[@alphagiga4878]

It reminds me of gmod

[@mitsubachihachi9643]

"Gives you the sense of the person in the game truly is just a puppet* Wow, that's a pretty good way of putting it! I never thought of it that way until now but it explains why the player character's expressions move into tbe uncanny valley :0

[@TheAtroxious]

I think it's funny.

[@reibutbored9688]

The animation for the frame moving is so linear, I love it since it’s so unnerving like you said

[@vaylonkenadell]

"No way this guy's guilty. Look how weird he is." I hope no one is considering hiring Manly to represent them in court.

[@safetyscissors9281]

Lol

[@h3art.sh4ped_box]

Manly ain't Better Call Saul, he's Maybe Dial Paul

[@StillaMarls]

@@h3art.sh4ped_boxLMAO

[@adrianomaly1760]

Seems fine to me

[@DegenerateSlime]

​@@h3art.sh4ped_boxMore like belongs in the trash

[@dragonix8527]

Manly: *goes out of his way to repeatedly smile at every inappropriate time, antagonizing Mike until he attacks him* Manly: I think I goofed...

[@potatoenjoyer5255]

It was so hilarious 🤣

[@xenic5227]

idk if its me but i lowkey don't like it ... i wish he took the game more seriously

[@MsBlondasian]

@@xenic5227 No I felt the same way

[@blatantslander]

@@xenic5227 its pretty interesting thats what the real Will (if he was a psychopath) would do...

[@nove5422]

@@xenic5227 i guess the emotions system was a little unintuitive for him. well, as long as he ends up showing all the possibilities, this is the best playthrough we've got so far.

[@Kingsly9802]

This game feels like it should be something you find in a DS games bargain bin and play through in one sitting, only for the cartridge to disappear the next day.

[@eschcal9839]

And when you enter the store to find the bin you fall into it, and you end up in a psychaitrists office where you talk to a cop about Supreme Reality over a deck of Tarot about Will the Steam Engine and Mama in the Boilers Again.

[@TheChauntoSound]

Yknow thus game would be fitting for a ds game lol

[@MemeHero]

Loved those Pokémon creepypastas.

[@Alisibeth_Talia212]

Gooood dude, you unlocked a childhood memory.

[@tomas_iss7469]

Ok but like imagine a DS port (unofficial of course) of the game, it seems made for that. the game always uses dual screen and the face moving seems made for a ds, of course the only change needed would be making moving around the map need buttons instead of point and click

[@lordarthur2165]

I know this is a horror game, but the faces are always so goofy, I am dying of laughter. I love this

[@spagetticat3468]

Lmao I feel like I have the sense of humor of a baby (just make a silly face at them and they start laughing) so I was a bit embarrassed, glad I'm not the only one 🤣

[@lordarthur2165]

@@spagetticat3468 bro, I was laughing so hard that I was out of breath, so you aren't the only one kgjgjgyj

[@dakotathacker3821]

@@lordarthur2165 yeah for sure, im watching thru now for tge first time and while im enjoying the game, im also geekin out

[@lordarthur2165]

@@dakotathacker3821 The game is really interesting, finding the faces funny is just a bonus jhjgj

[@spagetticat3468]

@@lordarthur2165 lmaooo ITS NOT EVEN A FUNNY GAME it feels so inappropriate but that makes it even funnier

[@vmcintosh1061]

Some fun facts: if you’re read your rights you are 100% under arrest, and if you’re asked if you want a beverage, snack, cigarette, etc. its so that the police can collect a DNA sample to keep on file or compare with evidence! Interesting implementation into this game, very detailed!

[@lucyarisato6850]

I…oh my god. I’d literally never even considered that until you said it, but that’s brilliant. Jesus.

[@kritsadventures]

They don't need to trick you to take your DNA and prints. It's either legal or not.

[@janKanon]

wow

[@DeathnoteBB]

Makes me worried for that diet coke guy. And for me if I ever get arrested

[@SariEverna]

I think the beverage offer is usually used to ingratiate themselves to the suspect. They certainly do use it for DNA on occasion, but they'll use it where that's not in play, too, to help build rapport. But if you're read your rights, it's 100% lawyer time.

[@valmyesquiwis1245]

Manly using the obvious wrong expresions was frustrating and entertaining at the same time.

[@KN-hg2nv]

he speed ran getting murdered path like a champ

[@andrewonesti3706]

I cant take it, it feels like hes not even trying to play. I mean, I know he'll go for multiple endings but its still hard to sit through

[@valmyesquiwis1245]

@@andrewonesti3706 heh, that's manly for you. he always tries to go for the worst or easiest endings first, but he also does It just because is fun for him

[@booperdooper9762]

Ageeed

[@booperdooper9762]

Agreed

[@carlybuck7998]

That kill scene...I've genuinely never felt so uncomfy and creeped out by a game as much as that. What an amazingly done game. The graphics are old school but in a way that really makes the game a lot creepier.

[@Ava-kb5sd]

I had to look away

[@avacadotoast5571]

Timestamp?

[@gort.4667]

Timestamp?

[@naitor2594]

@@avacadotoast5571 46:09

[@avacadotoast5571]

@@naitor2594 Thanks

[@mylittlebouquet3994]

I like how this game starts and the way everyone around the main character reacts to him, it kind of feels like he’s the bad guy, despite being the protagonist. Which is quite charming in a way and interesting.

[@BooksandBuns]

A villainous protagonist. It's really not that far fetched, protagonist just means the main character, it doesn't assign any sort of morality to said character

[@FeenieVonKarma]

i like that it's mainly the other characters' responses that clue you in, rather than the MC having ridiculous internal villain monologues. Obviously as time goes on and he accidentally smiles at the thought of murder, we get the idea, but the weird ambivalence near the beginning is great!

[@testerwulf3357]

@@BooksandBuns Exactly, people often associate protagonist's as good and antagonists as evils..this isn't always how it is and it's nice to see once in a while a protagonist that's not good.

[@tsukighost7227]

@@iesika7387 Yes same, remind me this scene in the Kdrama "Flower of evil" where the main lead trains himself to do facial expressions in front of a mirror so this is why I also thought about psychopathy first. SPOILER -(Yes I know in Flower of evil the ML was misdiagnosed)

[@rei5904]

for me, he reminds me of myself and my experience with autism! i havent finished the video so i hope im not wrong xD

[@theboxoftea9112]

"I'll use this expression to throw them off." Manly would be convicted of felonies he didn't even commit with this play.

[@supleted]

Now that the pandemic has completely erased any shred of social cue I have, I can honestly say that 2-bit Jerma here make better faces than I do.

[@Yam-jt3vw]

"2 bit jerma" I mean I guess

[@baronreeves9232]

Imo, the MC looks more like Dennis Reynolds.

[@frey2260]

god same, my facial expressions have become more uncontrolled since we started wearing masks

[@clutterbot7279]

I can’t unsee jerma now oh my god

[@FeenieVonKarma]

2 bit jerma omfg but you aren't wrong tho lol

[@martinrowley6901]

Being on the spectrum myself, the part about "practicing" facial expressions in the mirror to fit in with society hits close to home... I've had to do this myself, as nonverbal communication, for the most part, doesn't come naturally to me like it does to most people. I'm definitely going to have to check this game out

[@loxem2668]

Yeah, that part in the mirror matches my own experience as well. I got officially diagnosed pretty late, and figuring out more about autism has helped recontexualize a lot of my current and childhood experiences, practicing facial expressions being one of them.

[@giantsalamander]

same here. the inability to control my tone and facial expressions or not knowing what face i'm making without practicing is something i struggle with a lot.

[@antropofilia1318]

Same!

[@AnaOhKay]

that was my first thought too lmao, like "wait is this autism simulator" or something

[@insertfunnyname9763]

It took me an embarrassingly long time to realize that I could not smile on command (like I was trying to whenever someone told me to smile for photos- then I go to the mirror to see what it looks like and damn am I bad at smiling 😭😭😭)

[@garageheathen8568]

Heyy, the dev's here again. Just watched it all start to finish - I'm so glad you enjoyed it! Tbh, the comparison to Lynch is one of the highest compliments for me haha - there's so much that his works influenced here! Looking forward to the rest of the series, I'm really interested in your opinion on other endings :) P.S. the entrance to school might have something of interest...

[@cleopatraonlyfans]

I’m so stoked to see this game. I can’t play it myself due to laptop issues but this game introduced me to the concept of tulpas and that idea alone invokes in me such a personal and unique type of fear. This game pushes so many buttons for me in an incredibly appealing way. It gets my mind racing not only about the plot, but about tulpas, the discussion around them, and the source of my own visceral reaction to this game and this concept. As an autistic person I am typically troubled by tropes of sociopathy being evidenced by a lack of facial expression. But this game is just too beautiful to look at, the obscured details of the art style can be so menacing yet so nostalgically comforting. Will’s calculating apathy makes the moments of calm seem so mundane that I almost forget about the horrific implications of the story I’ve just seen. the game is so truly compelling I just don’t have it in me to get caught up on my initial perception of an often ableist story trope. especially when it provides for what seems to me, to be a such revolutionary gameplay choice in controlling the PC’s facial expression. I really could go on for a while listing the things I love about this game. I haven’t felt this much aching suspense for a video game in a very, very long time. You’ve shown here a masterful command of narrative tone and I really do commend you for your work. Fantastic stuff

[@AliC202]

Hello dev, slight spoilers but wondering is there a concrete interpretation? Cause I have me theories but some conclusive “theres no real answer” will stop me from going insane

[@wl4316]

Just finished watching it. Great experience, will (no pun intended) buy it when i get the chance.

[@PamelasEngel]

Amazing :) I caught that while playing :) Loving the details! Great game!!!! I feel like I’m a bumbling detective on a creepy wild goose chase.

[@Tohru_Adacher]

bro i love this game its so cool I was waiting for it to come out THANK YOU💪💪

[@meatharbor]

1:24 - DEGRENCE 4:04 - HUMBER 2:02 - NAGE 8:12 - DORCELESSNESS 45:35 - ANDRIC 1:08:20 - VARINATION 45:34 - PONNISH 49:38 - TRANTIVENESS 13:01 - TELUGE 17:33 - LORIC

[@macandbees2434]

Will definitely takes his Thalasin every morning.

[@Droffatsstafford]

Did you seriously come up with names for all those expressions?

[@ayshaafzal1640]

@@Droffatsstafford No it's a reference to an analogue horror styled video that's been circulating around the internet called The Blue Channel - Thalasin. It's about a commercial advertising medication for regulating emotions

[@PeeperSnail]

@@ayshaafzal1640 Not quite regulating emotions. Thalasin supposedly allows you to unlock new ones, but judging from the body horror that ensues, your body wasn’t built for that sort of thing.

[@gabrieleverson3485]

I love you

[@jacobesnard]

Manly: I don’t know how to do a scared face. Us: Damn right.

[@dakotathacker3821]

lol nice

[@billj.3561]

He is the manly baddass hero after all

[@sgwaris8853]

And his Jojo refrence is dope his stand is overpowered and beyond😅

[@sgwaris8853]

Lila is a super ghost which can do anything😮

[@deviousdingbat1513]

Spoilers for video: Detective Yu is definitely a stand-in for the player, (you). You first "met" Lila on the menus, you're driven by the desire to learn more about her and understand "Who's Lila". We also learn events and things happening in the order Yu does. Also that first ending, I can't believe Manly didn't pick up on, "Dr Hades" but did on the river styx?

[@eschcal9839]

I've seen a ton of River Styx references in games and movies ,and books. The only Dr. Hades I can think of off the top is from Super Robot Wars. By the way, this is a very clever and deep game, refreshing even. But its based on a very specific set of beliefs that others like me in the Western World wouldn't really catch on to. Millenia old beliefs about God, Truth, Reality, Meaning. Its very old philosophy, and like all philosophy it comes down to interpretation. Lila is an actual thing, part of the eternal cycle where The Divine/God becomes The World, and the World returns to the Divine, and where Karma fuels The Lila, the Divine Play. You'll recall the bit about how Lila's father was "here" before ALL "reels". Because Lila is the creation of The Divine, and The World exists as The Divine sacrifices itself and then feeds. We're all shards of The Divine, but our own image of our "self" varies, the worth we put on who we are as individuals. Google "Lila". "Brahmin". ITs all pretty deep and not exactly set in stone.

[@miwestraveler3986]

@@eschcal9839 I know a Dr Hell from Super Robot Wars, but no Dr Hades.

[@PolyesterKyle]

lol, i started laughing when detective yu was talking about having to understand every little thing and feeling disappointed by misdirection because that's exactly how i feel when i play these games, that's when the irony of his character's name hit me, he's you!

[@TomEllisLovesU]

Omg I remember when Manly played the Demo to this game, I couldn't wait for it to come out! I was counting the days til February

[@auggiemain]

Ohhh that was only the demo??? I was so confused thinking this was a reupload or smthin lol

[@_-_-Sipita-_-_]

Yea, I saw that on my recommended, but I didn't watch it so I could watch a full version

[@TomEllisLovesU]

@@auggiemain yeah it was!

[@TomEllisLovesU]

@@_-_-Sipita-_-_ smart man right here, but I was too curious, it looked too good lol

[@umbrellaghost5927]

Yo same this is gonna be so cool

[@nuadha5868]

I love how the entire game, Will is just giving us this blank, lifeless stare while, occasionally making the goofiest faces possible.

[@mightypurplelicious3209]

Slight spoilers: I really wish they didnt add the “Without noticing, your face in stretching into a stupid grin” It was much more terrifying to see Will suddenly smiling without player input at Tanya’s disappearance and trying to stop will smiling, but now it kinda just., feels bland being warned about it beforehand.

[@ManlyBadassHero]

They did those since the beginning of the game is a tutorial now and a lot of folks complained they didn't understand the facial system on the feedback from what I saw.

[@Alexden96Channel]

Agreed. It was a lot more unexpected, and there was a sense of panic to stop the face from smiling

[@DH-gq7bm]

I thought it slowly curled upwards while you were talking in the demo as well?

[@ManlyBadassHero]

They're referring to the additional dialogue that warns you you're about to do so.

[@garageheathen8568]

As Manly said - I had to decide between the stronger impact of this scene for some players, while leaving others behind, or make it much less sudden, but make the mechanic clear for everybody. Chose the player's comfort at the end, which imo made the scene slightly less cool)

[@nyankers]

"Don't worry, it's fine, I'm not here to murder you this time, I think." Manly lied as naturally as he breathed.

[@Bluesit32]

You missed it, Manly! Outside the school. There's a trashcan. Have a look. I think it's for you. Edit: He looked. It was just like his soul.

[@cyrilalain8032]

I hope he can find this when he tries to get all the endings.

[@dakotathacker3821]

lolol no way??

[@Bluesit32]

@@dakotathacker3821 I can't think of any other reason it would be in an empty garbage can and called "Manful".

[@PamelasEngel]

My cheeks hurt from smiling when I saw that while playing :)

[@dondon8025]

liking so it gets pushed to the top!!

[@Pichu1232]

Game: "WHERE IS MY GIRLFRIEND?!" Manly: "idk :)"

[@tapirsareunder-appreciated2272]

As someone who's had to study facial expressions to help with descriptive writing, I keep getting so frustrated when a face *almost* right and then he moves something the opposite way it should naturally go. XD There will be tiny differences based on secondary emotions, but it's really amazing to see how hard we have to think about the individual pieces of expression. It all comes so naturally to us, to have to remember whether or not the nostrils flare when scared, or whether the upper teeth or lower teeth get exposed in disgust... it's interesting and shows just how hard it must be for someone who has to think through each expression!

[@annaelisavettavonnedozza9607]

I love Manly but it annoyed the Hell outta me. Like ffs Manly don’t make those damn eyebrows go DOWN grrrrrr 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@damien678]

as a visual artist, I cannot tell you how frustrating him not touching the eyebrows as much was!! like pls they're so important to expressions!!!

[@coldyams5874]

Yes the eyebrows make so many of the expressions and he wasnt touching them 😭 he probably got it down in the other episodes

[@spaghetto9836]

It's the opposite for me. I mean, I can make expressions naturally, but I relate to Will in the fact that I _can't fake_ an emotion when I need to. Like laughing along with someone so they don't feel awkward for not being funny, or pretending to have fun with a kid so they won't feel bad, & especially smiling in photos. I can't smile at will for the life of me, unlike other teens who take lovely selfies by just whipping out a Colgate smile... My face is always deadpan. "Huh? Yeah I'm having fun." "Wow." "Hahaha." Like that. But bc I like to people-watch (and also bc I draw sometimes), I learned what each muscle does for each emotion, along with how your tone should go. Which lead me to realise a true smile comes from the eyes. You basically squint the lower eyelids only, and even a tiny tug at each corner of the mouth will seem genuine. I can't always control 'em though, but I'm getting better at it. Seriously, Manly must be more anti-social than me if he can't know basic emotions: *Joy-* As said, lower eyelids pulled up, lip corners pointing upwards or showing upper teeth, may or may not raise eyebrows evenly. *Anger-* Wide eyes, pouted lips or showing bottom teeth with clenched jaw, brows pointing inwards. *Fear-* Wide eyes, mouth agape or with opened jaw, sad brows. *Surprise-* Similar to Fear, but with eyebrows pulled upwards. *Disgust-* Clenched jaw showing bottom teeth, evenly raised or sad brows, eye width depends on how disgusted you are. Tbh I wanna buy this game just to see the emotions I could create. There's so many: the "silently judging you" face, the "WTF", the "shut up shut UP", the speechless happy "rebooting" face, the "You joked about something I'm insecure about that was kinda funny, but also pls stop" glare... They're all universal somehow. I love that.

[@bonecag3]

@@damien678 SAME when he kept trying to do the sad face but didn’t move the eyebrows I got frustrated lol. Literally eyebrows do so much for the face and expressions

[@timelywastaken3556]

The pole at 32:11 sometimes plays morse code Edit: it translates to "Lila is the mystery of not knowing who Lila is"

[@ryanleatigaga7596]

Manly's theory about how one of the endings has you rowing down the river Styx also carries some weight because one of the doctors that said you were very lucky for having survived the fall was called doctor Hades.

[@BooksandBuns]

I noticed that too

[@eidolon562]

Maybe it’s Lila who makes Will’s face suddenly change into different expressions. William himself says that he can’t make his own expressions without thinking about it in the beginning of the game. So the sudden expression changes don’t make sense if you leave out the fact that Lila takes control over him intermittently throughout the game. Perhaps fighting against the sudden expression is an example of William fighting against Lila. Just some thoughts

[@gustavoaraujopenha8463]

Probably the reverse though. William clearly is gone of his own body, the one in control is Lila, this even is confirmed by Detective Yu calling the protag Lila and the protag refering William as an different person than herself.

[@roblue5470]

This man has such great control over his facial expressions to create such horrifying normal facial expressions

[@sgwaris8853]

Lila and Tanya could be sisters twin but got separated at birth now it make sence here😮(just a theory😅)

[@lovelain3012]

“such a bad girl” “that’s a- that’s a weird dialogue” LMAOOO

[@sapphirek5244]

I’m getting so stressed watching Manly make these strange faces lmao

[@baronreeves9232]

Same

[@bullseye28]

🥴

[@skeNGk]

I couldn't be stressed, I was too busy laughing hysterically

[@YexprilesteR]

​@@skeNGkSkonked smiled

[@jionel_gaming]

@@skeNGk Same

[@Danzignan]

1:19:12 Lila getting angry at Yu telling her she envies humans. Lila literally at the beginning of the game (0:40) "I envy other people. They make faces naturally"

[@cleopatraonlyfans]

Honestly I took a little look at tulpamancy after checking out this game and it seems like r/tulpas is just tulpas spending pretty much all their time insisting theyre just as real as actual humans and not saying much else so this tracks 😬

[@eschcal9839]

@@cleopatraonlyfans Totally inaccurate - Lila spends its time convincing us we're just as unreal as it is. Tooootally different bro.

[@mementosamael]

That one NPC dialogue was really on the nose about the themes of this game lol. The plot feels like "what if the Koomer tulpa possession blog went even more horribly wrong and "Oguigi" started murdering people?" Honestly I love it.

[@DarkRelm22]

What’s the Koomer tulpa possession blog?

[@greenhellrecords979]

@@DarkRelm22 and for that matter, "Oguigi?"

[@polarsky.polarbear]

mario.exe???

[@mementosamael]

@@DarkRelm22 it was an old tumblr blog some person made to record their experiences with making a my little pony themed 'tulpa' (aka an imaginary friend). Oguigi is what they named their tulpa. An archive of most of the blog is floating around on the internet if people still wanna read it for whatever reason.

[@franzdotcom]

One of my favorite horror games. The whole vibe is just so eerie and captivating. I love the soundtrack/background music and how the facial system isn’t just a useless gimmick, but actually affects the outcomes based off what you do and the order you do it. One of the only games I bought and keep playing through for each secret, this game has really stuck with me and I think about it a lot.

[@felixmalcherek2919]

"Are you on good terms with your mom?" "She passed away sir. .... so, yes, our relationship *HAS* improved" "What?" "What." XD

[@taylorwright7428]

I love how Manly makes almost all his first chances as antagonistic as possible.

[@MrRaui]

2:06 If someone made a face like that at me, I'd definitely be scared off.

[@amandapanda5087]

Same

[@thatyoinkysploinky7229]

This has gone from a cool gimmick with interesting visuals to one of the most interesting games of recent time. I can't wait to see where this goes.

[@lindyxyo4254]

Holy shit. This went from somewhat Lynchian in the demo to a straight up homage in the full version. Literally hiding in the closet while commenting on the blue velvet poster on the wall, lmao. I love it, honestly. I've been looking forward to the full release so this is pretty hype.

[@eschcal9839]

I feel lucky to have experienced this with everyone here. The world must have so many other unique experiences like the one here, that we'll never even know exist. A little plus to getting old I suppose.

[@lindyxyo4254]

@@beyoudee687 No.

[@OdinJrthesecond]

For the most part, I feel like Manly forgot about the surprise and afraid emotions (although he was admittedly smiling a lot for the joke)

[@testerwulf3357]

I think he kinda forgot how to make them so he defaulted to smiling and sadness.

[@ddenisehhoy8369]

Can't ignore the eyebrows my guy! Powerful tools of expression

[@renee6422]

i think there's something to be said about how facial expressions can evoke such strong, visceral bodily reactions from others. it's such an innately human trait, and its utilized perfectly in this game, whether Will's reactions are affecting his environment or the players themselves. the mechanism really strikes at my core and disturbs me on such a primal level... which imo exceeds all expectations for the horror genre.

[@NaturalFlirtGamer]

_Jeez that smile tho_ It's the face moving too much. Funny how we mostly see subtle movements, the only time we exaggerate is with extraordinary emotions irl. I'm looking forward to seeing this whole game & what I'm sure is a pretty twisted story. And you're the best at getting endings! Addition: I'm laughing not at the game itself - the game is very psychologically cool looking at what is the self & how do we know. It's the commentary from MBH - like talking with the police and using that _smile._ "This'll throw 'em off, they'll never see this coming". A little troll humor suits this game perfectly.

[@FeenieVonKarma]

it's almost literally a troll face when he does a big smile with that face 😂 I guess this is another way of the uncanny valley manifesting itself!

[@kombuchas4684]

how have i been seeing you since i first watched manly YEARS ago

[@NaturalFlirtGamer]

@@kombuchas4684 That means we are both long-time viewers and have good taste in KZbin channels! :)

[@plutototoh]

I think about this game pretty routinely. This is a series I come back to re-watch regularly at this point. I can't explain why but I love it so much. The way you play it coupled with what this game does and how it does it just really sticks with me. Love this.

[@cyrose6324]

I love that half pf the game is like "Hey Lila babe please chill for a hot second"

[@yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh]

lila: apartment complex? i find it quite simple, actually

[@koiifsh]

if who's lila had a bigger fandom i know this image would be out there somewhere

[@DivineSpiritual1989]

Here we go 😁 Also, I love how when Will was falling from a building, he doesn't react 🤣 now I am just picturing him falling to his death while he looks bored. "Oh no. I'm going to die. Meh."

[@MistressoftheIceMoon]

This is so, SO well written. I would absolutely kill to see a full TV series about this

[@lavender-cat]

I second this!!

[@FreshCarrotsFinally]

I think the interrogation contains actual police tactics and stuff, I recognise some patterns between recorded police interrogations I've seen and and how the police officers acted.

[@clutterbot7279]

Yeah, it’s very well written! I’ve been binge-watching a lot of Sneegsnag’s crime time videos and the interrogations are just like this.

[@eschcal9839]

Its like a game where everyone both playing and depicted within are all detectives, and you aren't even sure who has all the answers the entire time.

[@thenextgeneration9030]

lol armchair detective over here

[@eschcal9839]

@@thenextgeneration9030 They call me Detective "Lazyboy" Malone. Some here at the precinct wear expensive suits. Me? Nothing but the most comfortable recliners will do.

[@eggmansexwife]

same! I recognize it’s very similar to actual crime interrogations that I’ve seen :)

[@filletofishes]

I hate how he keeps throwing, basically it's just "Hey, your best friend fucking died" * The most disturbing and vile grin you've ever seen, reminiscent of the Grinch* Omg that's so sad

[@felixmalcherek2919]

Ok, that second assbeating you got by Mike was on Martha. Will calmed the situation down, more or less, Mike wouldn't have gotten physical. But then Martha commented "He's just trying to provoke you", which is a line no stereotypical jock can hear without getting violent :P

[@swepli]

2 years into the future and I still agree with this lol

[@stv10101]

Ok but Manly’s can be a great voice actor, he’ll carry any show he gets in with his empty voice, just like his soul.

[@nanamama152]

Going off all the Dharmic references, I'd say the name "Lila" is a reference, too: "Within non-dualism, lila is a way of describing all reality, including the cosmos, as the outcome of creative play by the divine absolute (Brahman). In the dualistic schools of Vaishnavism, lila refers to the activities of God and his devotee, as well as the macrocosmic actions of the manifest universe"

[@eschcal9839]

To be specific, Lila is the Divine Play. The Play is fueled by Karma, aka human actions and decision. The Divine sacrificed itself to make The World. And The World returns to the Divine, and the many manifestations of The Divine and Lila are pretty much impossible for us to discern. That is why so much focuses on who and what we all are, what is and isn't real, ect. In the end, you become a willing part of Lila with your sense of "self" and knowledge of Lila intact. Or, you get completely gobbled up by The Divine, just to re-entered The World in one of many near endless forms The Divine ends up taking. EDIT: For instance, a steam engine or boiler monster! lol

[@trueshadowlover63]

this game is amazing and as someone that reads tarot, the cards are definitely an accurate representation to the endings 😭 like wow they really did their big one with this!!!

[@hayleye6262]

This game is exceptional thus far; truly multi-faceted in its presentation, gameplay, and narrative. If I were to venture a premature assessment of the title and its concomitant query, I would say that the question of “who’s Lila” is more metaphysical than literal, which delves into the subject of personal identity and the malleability of self. Thematically, the inability to perceive oneself fully and the transience or adaptability of the ego is represented through Will, a man whose conscious personality changes depending on the situation and who he interacts with. To Will, his tulpa, or independent, sentient identity, is just as conscious and real as Will himself, since the “self” is merely a construct that exists within the mind, incapable of perceiving itself objectively. His tulpa is Lila, who apparently has a predilection for murder, and whose ego is just as capricious, as Lila, too, emotionally manipulates those around them by altering their personality and reactions in accordance with societal norms and expectations. I believe through the course of this game and its endings, we should come to some sort of better understanding as to the distinctive memories and deeper, subconscious personality traits which define Will and Lila. I loved the incorporation of the user interface within the game itself, allowing Yu to essentially represent “You” the player, aware of the branching timelines, and desiring to understand every facet of this narrative and, through this uncovering, also find out more about Will/Lila. It’s an exceptionally creative and unique manner of discussing the endings and meditating on their contribution to the overarching query of what happened to Tanya and who, really, is Lila. I really can’t wait to see the rest of this game and discuss it with everyone! It’s an incredibly fecund story for interpretation, speculation, and even philosophizing, so I truly feel it was made for people like me haha

[@BringBackCyParkVendingMachines]

Verbose comments indeed.

[@andresgonzalez5676]

Nicely written, in my case I am fascinated by how the people around the protagonist don't seem to recognize clear signs of mental illness coming from the protag They speak to him as if he was a normal person and get angry, confused or frustrated at the protag when his mental illness does not allow him to react in a normal way, they even lash out at him sometimes Something that is a real issue for many actual mental illness patients, the lack of education among many people causes them a lot of problems in life, and it is a major cause of why many actual murderers are mentally ill patients Many times no one ever tries to educate them on their own conditions, or the people around them, leaving them to fend for their own, lost and confused in their own minds never knowing why

[@nanamama152]

If we keep going off Buddhist or Hindu analogies, if Lila is anything, it's probably Mara or one of his daughters, representing unsatiable, destructive desire (Lila does say s/he is hungry and wants to feed) that takes over a person until they're not themselves anymore. Will's name is definitely symbolic, though, considering all this talk about destruction of self. Self. The I. Ego. Will. Geddit?

[@PedroFerreira-iq5jq]

Dang, I just commented the same thing and I scrolled down and saw this comment lmao, but you explained it so well!!!

[@sibyl4398]

iamverysmart

[@arazelrosewater7922]

I love the presentation, the story, the mystery, the crossing timelines, the mechanics, everything about this is so good

[@sheepy1215]

Manly making the "wrong" facial expressions gives me so much anxiety (i say wrong in quotations because there is no right or wrong way to play the game but i wouldn't personally play it this way)

[@polinameshcheryakova]

I love how much work was put in it and how polished it eventually became. It seemed really hard to get the right expression then, now it's not a big deal.

[@shannyfow]

I was confused on why this kept getting recommended to me since I had already watched him play the demo, assuming that this was the same video, so excited the full version is here! One of the most creative horror game ideas ive seen

[@prototype1795]

Will Clarke’s face and behavior kinds reminds me of Will Bettelheim from You. Both seem normal and charming at first, but gradually reveal themselves to be psychopathic murderers as the story progresses. Their faces are also eerily similar.

[@jinthexp]

that was the first thing i thought of when wathing manlys demo

[@prototype1795]

@@jinthexp Also, they both adopted someone else’s name and identity

[@brgan557]

Joe goldbegr!!!!!

[@ayransever47]

I think that us, the players, are portrayed by Detective Yu (or perhaps even "You"), who wants to understand every ending and the story behind the character, meanwhile Lila just tells us that none of the endings are the "true" ending, and she (or he) asks us if it even matters in the first place. So yea, this is pretty obvious but I just wanted to point it out. I think the instance with Yu *may or may not be* a place where you can learn more about Lila and the endings, to satisfy your curiosity.

[@blooberiiist]

Ure using commas thats dope. I love u so much/ Please help me/ Have a good day))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

[@FranTusajigwe]

@@blooberiiist wut

[@bluedragonfly8139]

47:10 The protag's face perfectly mirrored my expression after watching that sequence.

[@ChestersonJack]

I’m still a bit confused on what exactly happened there.

[@blueyandicy]

​@@ChestersonJackshe got bitch slapped while running for the door, then choked out.

[@cbb1998]

I've been waiting for this! The original demo was so weird it's lived in my mind rent free.

[@monke9084]

I like Yu's part in this, and I also like that, at the end of the day, we're not the true ones puppeteering him, it's Lila, a Tulpa. *of the woman he truely loved*

[@Kerry_Saunders]

Such a cool idea! Controlling the character's facial expressions as the character tries to express their true emotions. This was implemented so well. Seeing Manly struggle to conceal the true facial expression shows this delightfully Using a map directions app as the map overview UI is clever! The unnerving dialog the MC lets out sometimes is so cake. The effect of always having the MC face onscreen while killing is ridiculously distressing. It reminded me of a horror movie I once heard about, where the entire film was a splitscreen which one side was the killer's POV. Detective Yu portion is just great. So intriguing! I think remember the dev mentioning neural network when commenting about this game. Although it is something I know little about, I wonder if there interesting pathways beyond the base facial expressions and the routes represented in the tarot tree.

[@Swordsoulreaver]

Wasn't that a game? The one where it was a split screen with one side being the killers POV? I could be wrong, maybe there was a movie and a game that used the same thing but idk.

[@ranimeRAT]

@@Swordsoulreaver I think Gab Smoulders plays it. Siren?

[@Swordsoulreaver]

@@ranimeRAT Yeah, that looks like the game I was talking about. I remember there being side-by-side screens at some point, one with your POV and the other with the monsters POV, but the last time I watched anything about this game was like a decade ago so I'm probably just misremembering.

[@themasterprocrastinator4933]

What movie? I think I want to check it out sometime

[@ranimeRAT]

@@Swordsoulreaver You can see through your enemies eyes and then switch back to your POV

[@JoaoPedro-iw3qd]

Whoa the game is finally out! The demo of this one was super interesting, i hope the full game keeps up the eerie tone.

[@allurandy]

here for a rewatch after experiencing Flaw Peacock's amazing analysis

[@bungerfan5]

I remember the demo!!! It looked like a really good concept, so I can’t wait to see how this goes!!

[@bonesawbrother930]

Idk if anyone’s said this yet, but as an autistic person, I’m glad the game now tells you what expression you’re showing. This game would’ve been very difficult for me otherwise, since many expressions depicting “negative” (sad, scared, surprised) emotions are quite similar irl (at least the way I do them)

[@babeyling8999]

Same here!! My face is usually very neutral or sometimes "angry" to other people so i would genuinely be confused in this game when making expressions.

[@otomeleifu]

YES! I was waiting for this game to come out. I watched the demo and I was so invested. Thanks for playing.

[@ultimatesillymeowpurr]

this is so well done omg that murder scene was so shocking, just amazing

[@maledictionwolf]

You know, I really enjoy Manly's voice acting. That voice he does for creepy characters is amazing.

[@skeNGk]

I like how he randomly gives some characters Transatlantic accents 😂

[@caiofonseca1025]

I am a 30 year old man and this was the first time in almost 20 years years that I had to EXIT the game for being terrified like a child. The way this game plays with our psyche is borderline sadistic. Probably one of the best horror games out there. Brilliant.

[@cyanbug3021]

Imagine you’re watching a JCS criminal psychology video and the person being interrogated just contorts their face violently

[@subval]

I watched the demo of this and I’m so excited to see this!

[@yunaaa504]

22:59 William got that "no bitches?" face and I love it

[@lalantes619]

"That's an actual thing btw you can look those names up" Me: Alright, let's see what that is Me, after reading: Holy shit

[@BooksandBuns]

Care to share what you found?

[@pelliorosh]

It's a story about someone's really bad experience with Tulpas that can be found on Reddit.

[@tanujak98]

What are Tulpas even? I read it but I don’t really get it

[@pelliorosh]

@@tanujak98 it's also difficult for me to understand, but it's something at the intersection of mysticism and spirituality...its like using your willpower and focus to create something, I guess like an imaginary friend that you invest in over time and it becomes as real as you and I. I don't believe it personally that's why it's difficult for me to grasp the concept.

[@shorter2243]

@@pelliorosh You got it pretty close! Tulpa is just another person you share your brain with, that you also made yourself. They can control the body (only if you let them), or you can also hallucinate (?) them, just like in the game Will did when talking to Lila in in the fool ending. They can be pretty nice company, if you know what you are doing, but I also know a lot of stories, when it went really wrong, so you need to be EXTREMELY careful.

[@Temporalitea]

So incredibly excited to see this released in full!! I was immediately enthralled by the demo alone, it's just such a unique concept. The blend of photorealism and the horrifying way the expressions are manipulated is so unsettling but really fascinating- I feel like this would've fit right in on a touchscreen console like the Nintendo DS. I can't wait to see how deep it goes!

[@mayuzanevideos]

Still remains one of the most disturbing games I've ever seen, and I mean that in the best possible way

[@RockstarRacc00n]

Holy shit, they actually went into the perceiver question of existence... that's some high-level philosophical shit that hardly ever comes up in Horror, even though it belongs in there, and they did a GREAT job of it!

[@SweetRian]

Finally the full game! The concept is so interesting and refreshing, it really makes for a good game.

[@lesliewoof]

Gosh this might just be one of my most favourite games ever and Manly's voice acting is just the best! So calming.

[@VVen0m]

I find it so funny how Manly is unable to make the correct face from time to time

[@DarkDragon1889]

It helps that the face mechanics are both really good and *really* janky at times. Him getting his ass beat by Mike that second time was bc the game misread his frown as a smile.

[@ЮлианМацкевич]

One of the best horror premises I've ever seen and a rock-solid social damage control mechanic, the only complaint is the "casual" Eastern philosophy lecture was a bit heavy-handed even by Lynchean standards. Be confident in the audience's ability to figure stuff out on their own, especially with highly specific stuff like tulpas being mentioned

[@Urza26]

These are some great expressions to use on Tinder. @2:05 Everyone would swipe right on that.

[@pawprint1]

Dear god.........It's so beautiful

[@amandapanda5087]

You're not wrong

[@blacklight683]

It's weird that even the smallest rowng facial expression can be really disturbing and triggers a flight or fight reaction

[@Chisamayas]

Oh my gosh, I’ve been waiting for this one!! The demo was already so good. I just know this will be amazing

[@MorsonTohvelit69]

This is such a weird but interesting game, not my type of game to play but something I really enjoyed watching! Never seen much games like this, and while the facial expressions are a bit unnerving, they also most of the time made me laugh so hard. But listening to you read it all while watching this interesting gameplay, made me feel so relaxed!

[@saleman89]

"Sorry officer, I can't deny it" I died

[@bitzthe8bit668]

Love how Manly almost exclusively used smile and disgusted

[@ice759]

I feel like detective Yu is kind of stand-in for what player perceive and what is expected of us to think, based on the Justice card exchange Yeah, and the Judgement card does really imply that Yu got the power to look at all the endings, and the comment about willing to see everything really hits close to home

[@AJ-vr9hf]

The best feeling is when you see Manly play the demo for a game and then the game actually releases (same thing happened with Inscryption).

[@PamelasEngel]

Played for a few hours. There’s a lot of lore and secrets. I’m excited to see what more I can find and I can’t wait to see your completed experience :) Sometimes it gets a little repetitive when you have to play the same scenarios to get different outcomes but the faster dialogue is helpful. I think I need to make more of my own customs saves maybe? I’m still figuring it out. As always thanks for sharing!!!

[@samsam082]

can you tell me who lila is

[@cursedfetus8129]

i love that each ending is represented by a tarot card because the meanings of each card could be applicable. super clever!

[@dikamenrider6030]

intresting gameplay, i like when the face muscle move without player controlling it, could have been better if there is not a warning ...it would add so much creepines

[@MrVampirePirate]

Yeah the demo didn't have a warning (to my knowledge at least), I remember audibly getting creeped out about it

[@ayumuchorizo4486]

I think the devs adjusted it because a lot of players didn't fully understand the expression system.

[@L16htW4rr10r]

Manly explained above that many were confused by it.

[@smtandearthboundsuck8400]

It literally only happens once and people act like it ruins the game.

[@MrVampirePirate]

@@smtandearthboundsuck8400 I think it's neat

[@BunnaySango]

"Its difficult for me to express emotions. I envy other people they make faces naturally" Feeling very attacked on the outset 🤣

[@ACoffeeBubble]

finally the game is out! super excited to watch you play it :)

[@garfieldsbongwater3735]

the fact they used the tarot cards for the endings was just simply perfect

[@sundalosketch4769]

Just gonna say right now i've been really looking forwards to this game since i've seen you play the demo. It's crazy how rare of a concept this is with games and i can't wait to see where this'll go! (at least the "simulate an emotion" through molding the face, not messing with one's face in general).

[@7PMNewz]

When Lila goes into her speech about self and perception, my first thought was “Man, it feels like she’s ignoring the fact that our personalities and memories effect our perception?” Then I realized that might sort of be the point. It really does feel Lynch-like, with horror being a set dressing for deeper philosophical discussions. Edit: 0/10 though, not enough Eraserhead baby?? :(

[@BoredGhostInk]

Yo I loved Eraserhead!! There’s also “Silencio” from Mullohand Drive living in my head

[@garageheathen8568]

OMG TYSM for playing!! Just woke up and saw this, can't wait to get back from uni to watch it...