WHO’S RATED TOO HIGH AND TOO LOW IN NHL22?

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On this BarDownloadable presented by 7-Eleven, we're talking NHL22 Ratings. Marissa, Corwin, Luca and Eric give their thoughts on the top 10 players at each position. Let us know who you think is rated too high or too low?
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@WahlstedToronto
@WahlstedToronto 2 жыл бұрын
Marissa thank you for showing us tendies some love, and you’re totally right of course ♥️
@MarissaRoberto
@MarissaRoberto 2 жыл бұрын
I gotchoo, always
@TheBdog
@TheBdog 2 жыл бұрын
Goalie is the best position no doubt
@AlexRasdfghjkl
@AlexRasdfghjkl 2 жыл бұрын
They're way too stingy with the ratings, even with the potentials. They should add more individual stats so they can make the best players in the NHL higher
@Ryan-jv8bw
@Ryan-jv8bw 2 жыл бұрын
They gotta take a note from 2k and add in badges
@AJSmith-jh2mi
@AJSmith-jh2mi 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ryan-jv8bw They kinda did with xfactor but its no where close
@Ryan-jv8bw
@Ryan-jv8bw 2 жыл бұрын
@@AJSmith-jh2mi for sure
@boomshocks
@boomshocks 2 жыл бұрын
The entire rankings get mangled because they don't want to move McDavid above 95. He should pretty obviously be put at around 97, it would give enough room for created player to surpass him (although that should be exceedingly rare). Or they should allow players who are far and above better than everybody else to have stats that surpass 99 (which would help create seperation). You could have McDavid with greater than 99 stats in Offensive Awareness, Speed, Acceleration, etc.. while keeping his other stats realistic.
@Mistahpope
@Mistahpope 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think McDavid is that good I think 94 or 95 is good
@milanek1527
@milanek1527 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mistahpope REALLY? HES THE BEST BY FAR HE HAD 1.8 POINTS A GAME LAST YEAR SND THIS YEAR HIS AVG LAST YEAR SHOULD HAVE BEEN 150 POINTS BUT BECAUSE OF CORONA HE PLAYED ONLY 56 GAMES NOW IN THIS SEASON WITH 5 GAMES PLAYED HE HAS 13 POINTS AND IF HE PLAYED LIKE THIS THE WHOLE SEASON HE WOULD HAVE 213 POINTS YEAH DEFINETLY NOT GOOD
@Mistahpope
@Mistahpope 2 жыл бұрын
@@milanek1527 well I just think there are better all round players in the league sure he's the best in terms of points but he's not great defensively or physically
@milanek1527
@milanek1527 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mistahpope he is good defensively not the best yes I agree iwth that but still they should allow more than 99 to 1 attribute atleast 125
@milanek1527
@milanek1527 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mistahpope you cant say you wouldnt want mcdavid on your team than anyone else by a big ton tho. Also They mainly are talking About the ovr as in franchise mode because mcdavid in franchise puts up 80 points max when in irl he puts up rn more than 120 which is a Very big difference
@ryantrylsson6462
@ryantrylsson6462 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing that sickens me about McDavid's 95 is that in 21 he was a 96 overall at the last update. You're telling me that his season he put up deserved a -1 rating?
@sierramccool6131
@sierramccool6131 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah totally, he’s truly only getting better irl
@lyleholtrop517
@lyleholtrop517 2 жыл бұрын
You got it wrong he was 95 last year to gpforthe last update
@xenonpoison7440
@xenonpoison7440 2 жыл бұрын
Hol up, John Gibson on any other team would absolutely drop top 5 save% every year
@tomashabs
@tomashabs 2 жыл бұрын
Buffalo or Detroit?
@matthewzarzour7273
@matthewzarzour7273 2 жыл бұрын
literally. feel bad for Gibson man. hopefully either he gets traded to a contender or the ducks get better
@squirrel_trucker
@squirrel_trucker 2 жыл бұрын
You have to remember that these ratings are based on everything combined and averaged. Everyone claiming McJesus should be a 99 overall, doesn’t understand that THAT would mean he’d have: Bergeron’s defensive game, Ovechkin’s shooting, Reaves’ physicality, Chris Tanev’s shot blocking, O’Reilly’s faceoffs, Keith Yandle’s durability, and Crosby’s backhand. McDavid is the best player. But he’s not the best at everything.
@Ryan-jv8bw
@Ryan-jv8bw 2 жыл бұрын
Hendrix Lapierre is a 62ovr but starting in the nhl on a playoff team, it’s nonsense
@zacharymanack7593
@zacharymanack7593 2 жыл бұрын
As of now a goal a game player too lol
@davebernard2951
@davebernard2951 2 жыл бұрын
Lapierre is elite potentiel not top 6 🤦‍♂️
@Ryan-jv8bw
@Ryan-jv8bw 2 жыл бұрын
@@davebernard2951 mcmichael too
@brendan9868
@brendan9868 2 жыл бұрын
They fucked a lot of caps prospects. Fehrevary is like Top 6 med despite being a 1st line defender rn, McMichael is like top 9 potential despite already being in the top 9 at like 19-20 on a pretty deep team and Lapierre is like top 6 med despite having clearly shown he’s the top prospect for them. I really just don’t understand how they can justify some of their potential ratings
@Ryan-jv8bw
@Ryan-jv8bw 2 жыл бұрын
@@brendan9868 Mcmichael is med top 6, but yeah I feel you bro
@StefanWB
@StefanWB 2 жыл бұрын
"The best player in every other sports game is a 99". Not true. Lionel Messi is the best player in FIFA 22, and he's only a 93. And I don't think either he or Cristiano Ronaldo has ever had a rating above 95.
@leo-vb5jq
@leo-vb5jq 2 жыл бұрын
That's because they would make team of the year cards and prime icons and it wouldn't make sense to have a rare card and a normal card the same rating. I don't actually play nhl tho so maybe im missing something.
@snowleopardseal
@snowleopardseal 2 жыл бұрын
And giannis curry LeBron and kd are 96 in 2k
@whitneysmiltank
@whitneysmiltank 2 жыл бұрын
Luca doesn't seem to understand how overalls work, imo. 99 would mean that the average of all of his stats would be 99, but that's almost impossible as McDavid probably has lower ratings for faceoff, physical, strength, fighting, shot power, etc... Also, it would mean there's no room for growth for him (especially for franchise mode). It would make a lot more sense to have 4th liners at around 50-60 overall to allow more room between each players. So instead of going up (where the margin is really thin with only 4 possible rating points possible), you go down for as much as you need it. Example: Average prospect 30 ovr, AHLer 40 ovr, 4th line 50-60 ovr, 3rd line 60-70 ovr, 2nd line 70-80 ovr, 1st line 80-90 ovr, elite 90-92 ov, franchise 93+ ovr.
@aidanlos
@aidanlos 2 жыл бұрын
i think juuse saros should be in the top 10 for goalies
@caoticx4930
@caoticx4930 2 жыл бұрын
was thinking the same thing.......tbh Lehner has no business being in the top 10 he was replaced last year as starter by Fleury. Saros, Binnington, Jack Campbell and even Bobrovsky should all be rated higher than him and when it comes to the defensive rankings those are atrocious.
@semi6125
@semi6125 2 жыл бұрын
If your putting saros in the top 10 then Igor shesterkin has to be there too
@caoticx4930
@caoticx4930 2 жыл бұрын
@@semi6125 not necessarily top 10 I was just going to show how absurd it is that people actually think Lehner is better...its clearly just bias because of his interaction with the media and he is not the only player EA did this for in NHL 22 there is clear bias that is total bullshit.
@buffaloben15golf88
@buffaloben15golf88 2 жыл бұрын
@@caoticx4930 Yeah and as a Sabres fan he SUCKED in Buffalo. Good riddance we have Anderson now. He’s not the best but he’s an elder statesman and Tokarski is a good young backup with some XP with a division rival team MTL.
@caoticx4930
@caoticx4930 2 жыл бұрын
@@buffaloben15golf88 yeah I am a Sens fan Anderson is a good goalie just lost some gas.........Lehner is overrated because of his interactions with the media he gets credit for some dumb reason..........all the goalies I mentioned before are better than him...his stats are padded because of the team he is on and he had 1 good year with a very good islanders team at the time.
@arrows4910
@arrows4910 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe that Auston Matthews is on the cover again
@Jake_borkowski
@Jake_borkowski 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I should have been pasta Mac or bread man
@zugbrugh6472
@zugbrugh6472 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jake_borkowski that rangers tease before the trailer came out got me so hyped, even as a pens fan panarin is my favorite player
@Brn934
@Brn934 2 жыл бұрын
Pasta and Mac will get a cover in the future but Panarin will not have one. Return in the 5 yrs and this comment will be true
@samuelmarchyyy63marchand75
@samuelmarchyyy63marchand75 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jake_borkowski honestly should’ve been Price (if he won the cup it probably would’ve been a lock
@moneydynamicmatanya9541
@moneydynamicmatanya9541 2 жыл бұрын
Yea what were they thinking?! It would've been nice to see a player from Vegas on the cover like Mark Stone for instance
@SuperAngryWalrus
@SuperAngryWalrus 2 жыл бұрын
McDavid should be higher than 95 overall
@DRANGOFEET
@DRANGOFEET 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I think a 97 overall, at least 96 overall
@briann23cgy81
@briann23cgy81 2 жыл бұрын
His defence would have to be higher which he’s awful at. 95 is fine
@-gumby-3381
@-gumby-3381 2 жыл бұрын
Lol if Price isn't a 90 because of the season then Matthew's isn't a 92 based on the playoffs 🙃
@bradybrabant476
@bradybrabant476 2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t know 5 points in 7 games isn’t good? Mcdavid only had 4 points so should he be lower? 🙃
@c0dysports
@c0dysports 2 жыл бұрын
@@bradybrabant476 McDavid was only in 4 playoff games, Matthews in 7. Huge difference
@GoFeverGo
@GoFeverGo 2 жыл бұрын
Corwins reaction to McDavid at 1 is HILARIOUS 😂😂😂😂
@nostrellor
@nostrellor 2 жыл бұрын
I wholeheartedly disagree with the discussion around 2:36. A player should be a 99 IF he is the best at EVERYTHING. 99 is a perfect player and no one is perfect there is a lot of stuff other centers do better than mcdavid hence he doesn't deserve a 99 rating there. In my eyes ratings should be even lower but more internally different.
@tyham12345
@tyham12345 2 жыл бұрын
To add to this. Let us say Mcdavid is 99 rated and then improves his. That would mean everyone elses rating would drop. That just would not make sense from practical point of view.
@Dane233
@Dane233 2 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who doesn't think Mcdaivd should be a 99, because he's not defensively the best or physical play
@freedy1696
@freedy1696 2 жыл бұрын
and despite that he is still the most dominant player in recent NHL history, thats why the 99 is justified
@arlofleenor1838
@arlofleenor1838 2 жыл бұрын
@@freedy1696 for him to be 99 he would need to have 99 fighting, body checking etc and thats just not realistic
@joshlovely4696
@joshlovely4696 2 жыл бұрын
@@arlofleenor1838 but it could be like Madden where you can have 110 speed and that compensates for the 89 fighting (just using examples) and that averages out to 99
@arlofleenor1838
@arlofleenor1838 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshlovely4696 i disagree. ratings are out of 99
@Dane233
@Dane233 2 жыл бұрын
@@freedy1696 he's the most offensively dominant, not defensively, while I do think Mcdaivd is the best and could go up to a 97 but he shouldn't be the perfect player, If they changed the rating system in the future he could definitely be a 99
@Cacuna
@Cacuna 2 жыл бұрын
Overral are base on offensive, defensive, physical and skating aspect of the game, Mcdavid cannot be higher overral if he doesnt deserve it, his physical and defensive game arent the best. The only way would be that they increased the influence of stats base on the type of players they are.
@Bleighckques
@Bleighckques 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Especially if you look at a pair of guys like Hedman and Makar. You could argue that Makar should be number one based on play or based on skill/talent, but if you include even just physical stats Makar is 5'11 190ish and Hedman is like 6'6 225. Unless you discount those stats completely, Hedman is always going to have that slight edge over smaller guys based on raw size alone. I think the only thing that really matters is looking at the underlying stats for every player and comparing them there. For example, McDavid should have one of the highest ratings in the game for speed, stickhandling, offensive awareness, etc. Matthews would be high in wrist shot power and accuracy, and puck protection. Someone like Slavin wouldn't have super high skill stats but would make up for it in defensive awareness and positioning. Those are the things they should be comparing, not just overall numbers.
@Cacuna
@Cacuna 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bleighckques I agree as well but size shouldn't affect stats, we just asume that bigger players are more physical but that is a mentality, if a small player is angry to throw hits even if they are not highlight real stuff, he should have a high physical stats.
@Catho90
@Catho90 2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos, TSN. But have you ever tried creating a player? The overall rating is based on a player's attributes. In order to give McDavid 99, they'd have to boost up his attributes just to get him there. Would a McDavid with 99 strength be realistic? No. Discuss individual attributes all you want, but this is quite silly to me. The overall rating gives a general idea about how good player is on their position on NHL 22, including strengths and weaknesses, it's not based on how good a player is in real life.
@milanek1527
@milanek1527 2 жыл бұрын
Then its bad they should allow mcdavid to be higher because this season hes averaging 213 points in 82 games They should allow skating And off awarness to be above 99 for players like mcdavid because his strength is so strong it should be above
@Hedgehotdog
@Hedgehotdog 2 жыл бұрын
Thats why the game needs to fix its rating system and make it so that certin attributes affect a position and player types overall more than others. For example if you are a playmaker having less strength shouldnt affect your overall as much as if you would have less passing. Another example would be offensive attributes if you are a defensive defenseman shouldnt bring your overall down heavily.
@pawnypawny4496
@pawnypawny4496 2 жыл бұрын
I dont agree with the argument that the best player should have 99 rating. I think the rating is perfect, because its an over all stats rating and mcdavid is not the best in for example checking or faceoffs.
@Jayzon666
@Jayzon666 2 жыл бұрын
Why not 100 though?
@milanek1527
@milanek1527 2 жыл бұрын
Then its bad they should allow mcdavid to be higher because this season hes averaging 213 points in 82 games They should allow skating And off awarness to be above 99 for players like mcdavid because his strength is so strong it should be above
@kassianisthegoat5101
@kassianisthegoat5101 2 жыл бұрын
fair enough but theres gotta be more than a 15 point difference between him and 4th line scratches
@jordawesome1716
@jordawesome1716 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you don’t mention how low McAvoy is….
@rynoxgd
@rynoxgd 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr he should be at least 89 or 90 ovr.
@jordawesome1716
@jordawesome1716 2 жыл бұрын
@@rynoxgd McAvoy should have been a Norris finalist. Probably didn’t deserve to win it but he was a top 3 D man easily last season. But hey Ea sports can’t get ratings right 🤷‍♂️Matthew’s should be a 93 or 94. McDavid should be higher for sure. 96+ easily.
@MegaMagnus007
@MegaMagnus007 2 жыл бұрын
Matthews 94 McDavid 95
@jordawesome1716
@jordawesome1716 2 жыл бұрын
@@MegaMagnus007 maybe after this season yes. I’d argue Matthew’s an mcdavid are on par with one another. So 94 each or 95 each
@MegaMagnus007
@MegaMagnus007 2 жыл бұрын
@JORD AWESOME yeah 👍
@TheZombiemofo
@TheZombiemofo 2 жыл бұрын
How is last season's Norris winner 8th on the list of top defencemen in the game?
@Jesusluvz
@Jesusluvz 2 жыл бұрын
Probably because the other seven aren’t only good at defence. 🤷🏿‍♂️
@TheGameTripleX
@TheGameTripleX 2 жыл бұрын
Jack Campbell if he continues the season he’s having now is going to have the highest boost rating this year, too much of the media craps on the guy because of his past with injuries and having not a big workload but he’s at the right age to mature as a goaltender
@MegaMagnus007
@MegaMagnus007 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah 👍
@captainsolo5514
@captainsolo5514 2 жыл бұрын
Corwin screaming at the beginning of the vid had me on the floor laughing 😂
@dakota8045
@dakota8045 2 жыл бұрын
shea theo at 86 is insulting
@jarljonah4577
@jarljonah4577 2 жыл бұрын
Coming from a wild fan yeah agreed
@logans5443
@logans5443 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it is. Him and Nurse should both be in that top ten.
@insertgenericusernamehere2402
@insertgenericusernamehere2402 2 жыл бұрын
They don't give 99 players out in fifa until they get special edition cards in fifa. For me how the hell backstrom isn't up there annoys the shit out of me.
@snicky3594
@snicky3594 2 жыл бұрын
Is nhl ultimate team they just straight up lower all the overalls to make the new cards better
@carterdickinson5804
@carterdickinson5804 2 жыл бұрын
I love Backstrom but how tf is that the name you came up with 😂😂
@jaredsteier1868
@jaredsteier1868 2 жыл бұрын
Who would he even be above?
@insertgenericusernamehere2402
@insertgenericusernamehere2402 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaredsteier1868 I'd put him at 10.but put stamkos where eichel is. If eichel actually played I'd not be complaining.
@insertgenericusernamehere2402
@insertgenericusernamehere2402 2 жыл бұрын
@@carterdickinson5804 the dude is a monster. And with how decimated the caps where last year in the games he played he made a huge difference (sure the post season wasn't great but he's made it there unlike other players on that list who didn't)
@Cacuna
@Cacuna 2 жыл бұрын
Does Chabot have Panarin in his line up?
@Enraged.
@Enraged. 2 жыл бұрын
With Price being my favourite goalie, he 100% deserves that spot. He had a phenomenal playoff performance but a poor regular season. Based off of playoff, 99. Based off of regular season, 85. 90 is a good middle ground.
@TheBdog
@TheBdog 2 жыл бұрын
There is no way Conner Hellebuyk is better than Carey Price. Price should be higher than 90 based off of what team he is on right now.
@sully_99
@sully_99 2 жыл бұрын
Kaprizov is overrated at this point. 9 million a year for a guy who scored less than a point per game and he isn't a 2 way player. He has the potential to be great but right now he's just not that caliber.
@lotion7452
@lotion7452 2 жыл бұрын
Saros should be a top 10 goalie low key, so underrated and stats back me up
@TheBdog
@TheBdog 2 жыл бұрын
Saros is probably better then Semyon Varlomov or Robin Lehner. Saros should be 87 or maybe 88 overall
@MrTheTank654
@MrTheTank654 2 жыл бұрын
honestly i want hellebyck to be 2nd best but last year and already start of this year he lets in the first goal on the first shot like every 3 games, its brutal to watch that happen, it happens way too often for him to be 2nd best
@ragejohnson1567
@ragejohnson1567 2 жыл бұрын
Gaudreau had 49pts in 56 games. How is that a brutal year😂
@chocolatemoose7761
@chocolatemoose7761 2 жыл бұрын
His standard is way higher than that.
@ragejohnson1567
@ragejohnson1567 2 жыл бұрын
@@chocolatemoose7761 he had 2 really good years in 18' and 19'. Other than that he has been a 70-80pt player for every single year of his career. And even if his standard is higher, 49pts in 56 is by no means brutal
@shadetends
@shadetends 2 жыл бұрын
The girl looks identical to the girl who was doing interviews at the Rocket League NA invitational event thing a few years ago
@MarissaRoberto
@MarissaRoberto 2 жыл бұрын
IT ME
@tiger5869
@tiger5869 2 жыл бұрын
As a goalie, if you aren't a goalie, you don't get to say a dang thing about our position compared to yours. That said, as a Wild fan, I know that a good defensive scheme can make a mediocre goalie look like a star, so I understand the sentiment.
@holofech9744
@holofech9744 2 жыл бұрын
There shouldn't be 99 overall players, give people some headroom for be a pro and custom characters to be (significantly) better if they want that
@aus8604
@aus8604 2 жыл бұрын
You only need ratings to average 80-90 to be rated 99 overall. There’s plenty of room to be the best player if you really find it fun to skate circles around the ai.
@markusmarosits7888
@markusmarosits7888 2 жыл бұрын
Demko's gotta be in the top 10 by the end of the year.
@TheBdog
@TheBdog 2 жыл бұрын
As of FEB 21 2022 Demko is definitely top 10 and he is definitely better than Varlomov
@justinkramer8665
@justinkramer8665 2 жыл бұрын
Point should be on the list and Jack should be lower than Barkov
@jacksondavila721
@jacksondavila721 Жыл бұрын
"What could he possibly do this year that makes him a 99" McDavid* "hold my beer"
@MikeVernonProd
@MikeVernonProd 2 жыл бұрын
As a goalie myself, here is how I would rank the top ten: 1. Andrei Vasilevskiy 2. Carey Price 3. Connor Hellebuyck 4. John Gibson 5. Semyon Varlamov 6. Marc-Andre Fleury 7. Darcy Kuemper 8. Robin Lehner 9. Jacob Markstrom 10. Juuse Saros
@honzakret7984
@honzakret7984 2 жыл бұрын
Just out of interest- do you not rate Tuuka Rask as a top 10 goalie?
@MikeVernonProd
@MikeVernonProd 2 жыл бұрын
@@honzakret7984 Not anymore. He might not even play again.
@honzakret7984
@honzakret7984 2 жыл бұрын
@@MikeVernonProd well if you don't have him on the list because he might retire, then ok. But if he doesn't, I would have him above a lot of these guys
@willg1618
@willg1618 2 жыл бұрын
Demko over Markstrom
@MikeVernonProd
@MikeVernonProd 2 жыл бұрын
@@willg1618 In the future, probably. But Demko still needs to prove he can carry a team into the playoffs. He hasn’t done that yet.
@FiRsTnAmElAsTnAmE-bc4mn
@FiRsTnAmElAsTnAmE-bc4mn 2 жыл бұрын
WHERE IS GIROUX bro the disrespect like is he not Elwood anymore??? And COOTZ BRO where he’s ovbviosuly better than kopitar bro how he not atleast a 90
@Tommyboy13100
@Tommyboy13100 2 жыл бұрын
Chabot's rating is justified. He is definitely a top 10 defensman. The minutes he plays and his solid defense keeps Ottawas d core together. Though I do agree that Makar and Fox were rated far to low.
@chiefbeanus3224
@chiefbeanus3224 2 жыл бұрын
You can’t group Gaudreau with any other flames player from last year. He played extremely good especially considering the team he was on. I love Tkachuk but it’s no question that Gaudreau is the best player on the flames
@masonmitchell2186
@masonmitchell2186 2 жыл бұрын
eric needs to tone down as a bruins fan gaudreau had 49 pts on CALGARY
@f-twelve7155
@f-twelve7155 2 жыл бұрын
I may be biased but the fact they’re saying Gibson has a pretty bad team in front and that’s a good reason to be "bad" stats wise but basically Price is still average even tho their team on paper is like 22nd in the league players wise and that for the past 4 years, Price is great but the team in front can barely score, since 2016 no one except Domi has pass 70 points and they still missed the playoffs by like a point, I’d say that’s why Price is still on top cause he’s great but he can’t get shutouts every game you know
@jackb7632
@jackb7632 2 жыл бұрын
Corwin Campbell played 7 games Price played how many in that playoff run?
@TheDenigreur
@TheDenigreur 2 жыл бұрын
I've been ranting about all that content for yeaaaars on overal in EA games. IT'S NOT A RANKING OF PLAYERS, IT'S A WEIGHED VALUE OF ALL OF THEIR ATTRIBUTES, SOME ATTRIBUTES WITH MORE WEIGHT ON THE OVERALL THAN OTHERS.
@Joe937
@Joe937 2 жыл бұрын
They better add marissa,Corwin,luca and Eric to nhl as playable characters
@logan4680
@logan4680 2 жыл бұрын
idk why yall think makar is getting the biggest rating boost by year end, lucic exists people
@fifteepahphahazz9377
@fifteepahphahazz9377 2 жыл бұрын
So does loui
@cbjgirl23
@cbjgirl23 2 жыл бұрын
i'm just thrilled that zach made the top 10 and seth didn't, that seth contact is already bad
@Ian_D_Kemp
@Ian_D_Kemp 2 жыл бұрын
My issue with the lists is how has a player like Nikolaj Ehlers been left off? Are you keeeding me?
@davidwilson7344
@davidwilson7344 2 жыл бұрын
In terms of Luca's argument about why ratings don't go past 95, my theory is they want to leave some leeway. For example, in franchise mode in NHL 21 I had McDavid grow to a 98. If he started at 98 or 99 then either he has no growth or he surpasses 100. Personally, I don't like the idea of someone surpassing 100 overall so I think the current system makes sense. What I think they should do is leave the ceiling the same at 95 but scale everyone down to make better use of the entire scale of 1-99. I'm not saying we need 1 overalls lmao. But make like NHL 21's 80 overall equal 22's 70 overall, for example. Doing so would basically accomplish exactly what Luca is saying but wouldn't yield 100+ overalls in franchise mode.
@Callzorify
@Callzorify 2 жыл бұрын
the lack of Shesterkin is disturbing
@samsteinman5187
@samsteinman5187 2 жыл бұрын
Backstrom should be in the top 10 centers no question.
@shaymerten173
@shaymerten173 2 жыл бұрын
How is Miro not too 10....
@Weewization
@Weewization 2 жыл бұрын
I'll be interested to see if the change of scenery gives Kuemper a boost
@rnovy0918
@rnovy0918 2 жыл бұрын
Ok. I’m a CBJ fan and we don’t even have Seth Jones anymore but he is better than Zach and Charlie (arguably) and should prob be like 7th. Also Adam Fox should be in front of a Chabot and maybe Hamilton. Possibly Makar too. It’s arguable but Fox is def better than Chabot.
@joshkass9710
@joshkass9710 2 жыл бұрын
Why is Panarin BEHIND Marchand?!
@williambennett5989
@williambennett5989 2 жыл бұрын
Because he is way worse im surprised he is even top 5
@JohnSmith-jb2jf
@JohnSmith-jb2jf 2 жыл бұрын
Marchand is a far better defender. It's not even close.
@williambennett5989
@williambennett5989 2 жыл бұрын
He is also better at offensive
@cheesepleese_
@cheesepleese_ 2 жыл бұрын
Mcdavid is a 95 so they can sell packs with the chance to get a 99 mcdavid in the future.
@aus8604
@aus8604 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh these aren’t Ultimate Team card ratings. They update these overalls free in every update up for the offline modes. You can also edit players/rosters yourself.
@Willitgo
@Willitgo 2 жыл бұрын
Not a Minnesota fan but I dissagree with Luca. I think Kaprizov on number 5 LW at 88 OVR is pretty accurate. He have been the best player in khl for a long time and is the Minnesota Wild by himself now.
@aamirlila2428
@aamirlila2428 2 жыл бұрын
I get the idea that players should be 99 overall. But how the ratings are built, this would mean that mcdavid should be rated at elite numbers on defense, body checking, stick checking, strength. I would assume that these numbers are rated low on mcdavid, which brings him down to a 95 overall
@MrCrockaG
@MrCrockaG 2 жыл бұрын
Must say I appreciate Corwin's Arsenal 4-2 Tottenham front page in the background.
@ColeMaccallum
@ColeMaccallum 2 жыл бұрын
Post season jack campell is easily top ten, Roman rossi is insane and deserves better. Cale makar should be better. Krill kaprizov deserves his rating.
@isaacfrohlich4575
@isaacfrohlich4575 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao I got the 7/11 ad with Jesse during this video
@Maddiebruinslover6373
@Maddiebruinslover6373 2 жыл бұрын
That defenseman list is just terrible man, I agree with most of the changes you guys said, but I also think Charlie McAvoy should get moved up, he single-handedly plays defense for the Boston Bruins.
@jotsky3668
@jotsky3668 2 жыл бұрын
They should make an overall for playoff play. like if you have them in playoffs for franchise mode, etc. like marner 90 regular and then 86 playoff…
@Nixonbutcher
@Nixonbutcher 2 жыл бұрын
Marner in playoff should be 81
@goaliepro6887
@goaliepro6887 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like McDavid should be 97 rated. We know they hate rating players 99 but I feel like McDavid should be set apart and 97 would be perfect because it would be the highest rating and it’s his jersey number
@tristanferris108
@tristanferris108 2 жыл бұрын
How is Aho not a top 10 center in the league
@redherring4119
@redherring4119 2 жыл бұрын
Mark Stone is easily better than both Marner and Rantanen.
@Brn934
@Brn934 2 жыл бұрын
I will not stand for this Tuukka slander from Marissa
@joshbribiesca2803
@joshbribiesca2803 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t agree that the players ratings should be higher - that’s too simple a solution. The problem is that the individual stats should matter more. The difference that 1 point in any attribute makes should be greater. That way 99 speed vs 96 speed actually feels different and mcdavid is much faster than everyone else. It doesn’t make sense for any player to be 99 ovr since no one truly has 99 in every attribute
@Dino-11
@Dino-11 2 жыл бұрын
I hate the 99 debate. There is no room for any improvement in McDavid's game? Hes the leagues best shooter, passer, handles, defense, skating, etc? He beats every single other center in every single category? setting the 99 bar as "best we have" means what, Mathews gets a 110 ratting on his wrist shot? and then whats a 99 mean if you have guys going over 100? A 99 overall should be unachievable and that lets you rank guys more accurately because McDavid is still the best but some other guys might have one thing they do slightly better.
@ARutherford0220
@ARutherford0220 2 жыл бұрын
What's up BarDown?
@co2angel899
@co2angel899 2 жыл бұрын
Scheifele got snubbed of top 10 but at minimum 90 rating
@ryanschlaud
@ryanschlaud 2 жыл бұрын
The best player in the world isn't perfect. McDavid isn't the best defensive player in the league so he can't be 99. He'd have to be the best on both sides
@Krokodilius
@Krokodilius 2 жыл бұрын
LOL MARK STONE!? guy is like an 84.
@Emil62003
@Emil62003 2 жыл бұрын
Tell me you don’t watch hockey without telling me you don’t watch hockey
@Krokodilius
@Krokodilius 2 жыл бұрын
i'm watching right now cosplayer, and every other fuckin night. kicked goals count now.
@Emil62003
@Emil62003 2 жыл бұрын
@@Krokodilius I’m sorry kid but if you think Mark Stone should be a 84ovr you’re on something😂
@Tylerboyd2001
@Tylerboyd2001 2 жыл бұрын
84?! He’s one of the best two way players playing right now. You know nothing
@pkfreeze175
@pkfreeze175 2 жыл бұрын
For center... I would bump Kopitar, Stamkos, and Eichel (due to injuries) out of the top 10 for Barzal, Point, and Couturier.
@roryvonmeyer2643
@roryvonmeyer2643 2 жыл бұрын
Holy fuck 30 seconds in Corwin has me wheezing here
@jaym8346
@jaym8346 2 жыл бұрын
Campbell needs more games but he is the #1 goalie in the nhl rn in 10 or more games played im pretty sure.
@AvsFaithful_3xSCC
@AvsFaithful_3xSCC 2 жыл бұрын
erick: Theres a Avs player for some reason Me: 4 of the list of haves players and the goalie has 2 former Avs players (Grubauer and Varlamov)
@mahockey3
@mahockey3 2 жыл бұрын
I don't see why they would make McDavid a 99 when he hasn't hit his ceiling yet.
@HouseOfHockey14
@HouseOfHockey14 2 жыл бұрын
Because he has hit his ceiling
@mahockey3
@mahockey3 2 жыл бұрын
@@HouseOfHockey14 lol
@bryantcox3125
@bryantcox3125 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a goalie! Vas easily number 1. Is Rask even a thing anymore?
@AntonioHernandez-tj6er
@AntonioHernandez-tj6er 2 жыл бұрын
*Prediction of how the Z and Corwin's chel 22 review is gonna go*... "It's really cool other than the fact that like if we're being honest, it's kinda garbage."
@TheBdog
@TheBdog 2 жыл бұрын
If anything Carey Price should be higher than 90. There is no way that Connor Hellebuyk is better than Price. And Vassy should be 91 or 90 based off of the team that he is on right now. Same with Carey Price he is on the HABS who have no defence right now
@unrelatedcoma
@unrelatedcoma Жыл бұрын
you guys are absurd. you want Kucherov to have 2 or 3 rating points higher than Ovi? Kucherov has scored 40 goals only twice in his career and has one Art Ross, one Lindsay, and one Hart. Ovi has one Art Ross to go with 3 Lindsays, 3 Harts, a Calder, 9 Rockets which Kucherov has zero and those 9 Rockets dont even line up with the 9 times hes scored 50 and again Kucherov has only hit 40 twice. Kucherov has one more cup but Ovi has a cup and a Conn Smythe. in what world do you rate Kucherov above Ovechkin?
@dechrigaming5936
@dechrigaming5936 2 жыл бұрын
It is ridiculous to say that McDavid should be 99ovr. He is not the best in every aspect of the game. And to say that every other sports game the best player is 99ovr is just plain wrong.
@jmicjr304
@jmicjr304 2 жыл бұрын
They don’t have a set bar they can’t go past in ratings it’s based on individual attributes that boost the overall (obviously right) do you want mcdavid to have byfuglien checking? Being the best doesn’t mean you’re the best at everything!!
@ryanc.510
@ryanc.510 2 жыл бұрын
I think that they did Jonathan Quick dirty by giving an 82 overall. He’s an 89 at least in my opinion
@peterbrenner8233
@peterbrenner8233 Жыл бұрын
That is so off, did you even see him play?
@vipersnipes101
@vipersnipes101 2 жыл бұрын
It’s obvious why they don’t put the players higher! EA loves money grabs and without that room between 95-99 you can’t make special HUT cards worth it.
@reese457
@reese457 2 жыл бұрын
Corwin Headman had an off year. Everyone else: he played injured all year
@georgestrubs7045
@georgestrubs7045 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao you are the same guys who were saying the nucks and Vegas were going to compete for top spots in the West ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ryanlichtenfel4817
@ryanlichtenfel4817 2 жыл бұрын
John Gibson is a top five goalie in the nhl no doubt.
@MetalOcelot90
@MetalOcelot90 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a bardown for people who aren't leafs fans?
@choms
@choms Жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does anyone else feel Marissa is saying “also” differently then how other people say it? It’s almost like how they shouted Jesse out for pronouncing Colorado the way he does.
@brettthegamer4984
@brettthegamer4984 2 жыл бұрын
I Think draisaitl is rated too high if Sidney Crosby is only 93 overall, and McDavid is 95 overall
@simonbernier9253
@simonbernier9253 2 жыл бұрын
Still joking about the Habs Leafs fan? The moment you and the Leafs management will understand that hockey is a team sport, maybe your team will start to win a playoffs round.
@buffaloben15golf88
@buffaloben15golf88 2 жыл бұрын
After the awesome Buffalo performance +8 differential 3-0 start. Thompson and Girgensons need to be at least 85+, Colin Miller is quite good as well 83+ at least for him. Tyler Myers should be top 10 defenders 88 Overall that guy is a legend and you know it Boston!
@mikeS-ow7lc
@mikeS-ow7lc 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know what oloffsons rating is
@buffaloben15golf88
@buffaloben15golf88 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikeS-ow7lc Naw man I haven’t cracked this game open yet.
@damoniqt
@damoniqt 2 жыл бұрын
Eric is putting on his best bobblehead impression
@mcpaasec420
@mcpaasec420 2 жыл бұрын
How is eichel better than barkov??😳
@aubreyn688
@aubreyn688 2 жыл бұрын
99 should be the best possible player realistically. like mcdavid should be like 99 if he was better on defense, penalty kill, and physical
@ripapa6355
@ripapa6355 2 жыл бұрын
That's a lot of talking over Marissa. You gotta tell them to shut up more often :)
@deejayreimer57
@deejayreimer57 2 жыл бұрын
Nfl has the 99 club... It's because there are several players at different positions which are just beasts... NHL has Mcdaddy and maybe McKinnon that are at that level. No defense, goalie or winger would be a 99 as well. So I think because there are so few that's why there isn't a 99 in chel.
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