Now this is an eye opener. After watching a ton of burgeon videos by other people, I was under the impression that Thoma is the only viable burgeon driver for a team with just dendro, pyro and hydro. Good to know that Klee and Yanfei also work perfectly.
@bobbywibowo Жыл бұрын
honestly, it has a lot to do with baizhu being a true off-field dendro healer (+ shield for anti-interrupts) as already brought up in his previous nilou video, the previous alternative, who was yaoyao, had plenty of limitations that would seriously limit other non-thoma burgeon teams (i.e. limited range of heals from E, and/or needs to be on-field for a bit if Q), which were non-issues with thoma due to his pyro being able to be triggered off-field by teammates + shield
@zixuanyu868 Жыл бұрын
Actually I love the Yanfei variation (I use kazuha CC because the bloom self damage is not much) for lower world levels, and even clears the spiral abyss with that.
@itsame7491 Жыл бұрын
Kazuha
@dakotadawes2893 Жыл бұрын
It’s uh only with pyro being dps she is good… Nahida is the better driver. That’s why thoma is the only one works since it’s off field pyro application.
@LiliaRosalesx Жыл бұрын
Impressed with Thoma
@rakharizqullaha.f.271310 ай бұрын
As a Diluc burgeon enjoyer, I just gonna put my two cents here. For Diluc Burgeon, you actually don't need to use his burst, it just slows him down. His E alone is more than enough to explode those seeds quickly.
@zixuanyu868 Жыл бұрын
I think the Yanfei and Klee can be faster if you use their elemental skill and charged attacks too, especially Yanfei.
@luciiinek_9545 Жыл бұрын
no bcs it'd be too much pyro and the enemy would start burning therefore you wouldn't have dendro to create cores, that's why thoma's slow pyro application is good in a burgeon team
@zixuanyu868 Жыл бұрын
@@luciiinek_9545 Ah, yea...
@gteixeira2007 Жыл бұрын
Yanfei damage here is low because her kit is focused on CA. Also xq hydro is not applied by CA. This is the reason why my burgeon yanfei does not work using wanderer set and enemies are always burning : ( Need to change artifacts and gameplay.
@zixuanyu868 Жыл бұрын
@@gteixeira2007 Oh, I mean, I am actually low level veteran and playing a hybrid kit😅
@ShuchengCao Жыл бұрын
Maybe but most likely not. The more CA used, the less xingqiu burst ticks, the more vape damage but also the higher chance of triggering burning resulting loss of burgeons. So yeah, since they are built for full EM burgeon, the CA and burst will very likely just slow them down.
@fluffydragonite Жыл бұрын
i really like that klee comp! klee is def far off from the meta and most modern team archetypes now so using her in burgeon sounds interesting especially with her consistent pyro application, ty for showing this
@GenshinDPSCalc Жыл бұрын
It's amazing to see how hoyo can buff a version 1.0 character without even modifying a single bit of that character.. I expect more in the future for other characters as well.
@kudaice Жыл бұрын
@@GenshinDPSCalc Can u try Klee/Kokomi/XQ c6/Nahida? klee should be able to maybe get more seeds while also being able to vaporize for em/dmg/crit build being interesting.
@icekiller1594 Жыл бұрын
Klee mono pyro works great to this day, I use it to clear abyss all the time
@mralumina3566 Жыл бұрын
Even in speedrun it's only a few sec behind the no 1 team I don't know what are you talking about 😂 In casual play it's really easy since the ER requiement is really low and mono pyro characters is just very strong individually.
@kanashiiinu9124 Жыл бұрын
Thoma has the luxury to be used off field while triggering burgeon. So you're better off using hydro/dendro unit as onfield driver (like Ayato, Haitham, Nahida), instead of forcing him to do PHYSICAL attacks while on full EM build which is not optimal.
@Cozzee_G Жыл бұрын
The advantage with Yanfei is you can trigger burgeon at longer ranges. But sometimes you will need to use her skills and CA since her normal attacks don’t always hit the cores. Yanfei feels smoother to play with on 1v1 scenarios while Klee feels better in AOE combat. Both of them however can do well in either scenarios. Don’t worry about burning. XQ/Yelan’s can outrun their projectiles.
@gteixeira2007 Жыл бұрын
If you use the normal rotation for Yanfei the enemy s aura only get Pyro after some seconds. On the other side the na does not hit all the cores and also her ability is not focused on na. The solution is to spare less CA. The best scenario should be a fixed Dehya with a smaller icd on E , em scaling so you can use Candace infusion and be on field as main dps.
@Raikos100 Жыл бұрын
That is only true for regular dps. Burgeon needs more work since the auras needs to be in sync. Dendro has to be the stronger application and keep being refreshed, Hydro needs to be the second strongest so you make a lot of cores, pyro needs aoe to be effective but also needs to be weak applicatior to avoid taking place in the reaction. So the most optimal is 2 Dendro, 1 hydro 1 pyro. Where the hydro has to be off field strong application and pyro can't CA or burst for consistency. Also being at long range is a bit weird since you want everyone close together for the aoe, but I guess Yanfei works at range if you fighting single target or don't have Baizhu.
@santos9532 Жыл бұрын
I hate Yanfei, but I need to build her now
@decasuffrage9021 Жыл бұрын
just a heads up to everyone, em thoma can work if you have fav users on the team. for example, if you took xq and gave him a normal build of er/hydro/crit rate with fav, and then had either nahida or baizhu with fav (or even baizhu on prototype amber) then it should be fine. works fine for me at least.
@suryabhat2507 Жыл бұрын
Prototype Amber doesn't regenerate energy for the whole team! It's only for the character that has it equipped.
@AryaPDipa Жыл бұрын
And it works best with Thoma coz he doesn't need to be driver. Just keep switching to fave users whenever the weapon cool down is over and your energy issue will be resolved.
@decasuffrage9021 Жыл бұрын
@@suryabhat2507 thanks! it's been a while since i've used it so i'd forgotten
@rendition55 Жыл бұрын
It looks like currently, the top 5 Burgeon drivers, from best to worst, are Klee, Thoma, Yanfei, Bennett, and Hu Tao. Thanks! This helps. Burgeon teams aren't quite meta yet because their reactions are Bloom, Burgeon, Vape (Reverse Vape), and Burning which don't quite coincide with any specific DPS character's innate skill set... yet. But Knowing that some characters got buffed by Baizhu and Nahida is definitely informative.
@remonstar5888 Жыл бұрын
A few thing to note: 1. His Xq is C6, which gives 1 extra hydro app every 3 NA. While losing 1 hydro app is not detrimental for most burgeon carry. Characters who has broken ICD (e.g. Xiangling) might not get their Dendro cores due to his swords having hard time extinguishing burning aura. 2. There's an archetype where Xinyan burgeon is actually viable called Mona Dance Team. This team abuse Mona's ability to apply hydro and dodging at the same time (dash spam). Tho this team's rotation is very hard to execute without Xinyan's C2 or Sacrificial greatsword at high refonement. Cmiiw
@mandolen3317 Жыл бұрын
Sounds terrible
@remonstar5888 Жыл бұрын
@@mandolen3317 TERRIBLE indeed, but the creativity is what caught me off guard
@mandolen3317 Жыл бұрын
@@remonstar5888 same, but still a terrible team. Id rather use Dehya in that comp lol
@subtle-light Жыл бұрын
The tests are as is. But what one must realize is that when you use thoma, dehya, xinyan, xiangling and other off-fielders, one would be using main-dps nahida which would make more blooms with xingqiu. And still, the test is as is since it considers main dps pyro. :)
@kudaice Жыл бұрын
More blooms doesnt mean more dmg, as you will depend on how often off fielders can trigger blooms and most of the time they are wasted .
@tsuki1606 Жыл бұрын
There's also a problem with burgeon, it has a cap It doesn't matter if the character triggered burgeon with 5 dendro cores at the same time, it'll count as 2
@ginger2114 Жыл бұрын
Just use R5 Kittain for both Energy and EM on Thoma and XL
@marc6186 Жыл бұрын
also, kinda worth noting that catalyst/polearm users have more damage since they can equip weapons with higher EM at 265 (nahida signature) or 221 (sacfrags, dragon's bane) compared to sword, claymore or bow which is usally capped at 165 for usual EM weapons (187 for bloodtained greatsword, 198 for freedom sworn). also, sword users can have more EM from the passive of key of khaj nisut if fully stacked more than any other weapon even if you don't build that much hp
@user-sq7ry5vx7t Жыл бұрын
I think you have to adapt the builds a little bit more, since Thoma can use the Inazuma lance and switch Nahida to fav code to have a better uptime in his burst. Yanfei can also detonate seeds in AoE using charge attacks, for example.
@GenshinDPSCalc Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your input!!
@Raikos100 Жыл бұрын
Klee suddenly becoming meta before her skin drops out is a heavens gift.
@longlostamia Жыл бұрын
Must protecc
@shubhamrohilla06 Жыл бұрын
Klee meta?? Oh come one don't dream this
@NFYT Жыл бұрын
@@shubhamrohilla06 wha- klee is good? She feels horrible to play, but other than that her teams are actually damn competent, there hasn't been a single abyss i couldn't beat with monopyro, and at least my monopyro performs similar than international with just a couple seconds of difference, not to mention klee is a good burgeon driver since she doesn't need energy, more than that she's a battery she can actually give energy to the team with her 2 skills and then her CA that replenish 2 energy to all party members, she's a damn decent unit, is just that, there are better options for certain teams (not even THAT better, but easier to play that's true) and the fact that she's an old and clunky unit, no one wants to play the older units everyone want to try the new units and new teams. she performs: better than diluc and any other pyro dps that isn't xiangling or hu tao (just on single target though), she performs better than eula, performs better than itto if no c6 gorou which nowadays is normal since gorou only appears on itto banners, performs quite better than xiao if no c6 faruzan which again is very common, and the list goes on, klee monopyro is a very solid team, performing like 60k per CA that does aoe, has no energy issues, jumpy dumpty does more total dmg than the CA, and kazuha makes those bombs explode, so yeah i would say klee's actually quite meta, the fact that ppl don't play her doesn't mean she performs bad, but mihoyo totally did her dirty with her gameplay though, u have to jump, animation cancel, stun lock the enemies, large etc
@plantmomindistress3420 Жыл бұрын
@@NFYT and her burst does 45- 60k each as well. Klee is horribly overlooked.
@johneisleytiu5110 Жыл бұрын
I use Thoma with onfield Nahida and Baizhu (R5 Codex). So I guess it helps a lot with his ER ❤
@bilaal167 Жыл бұрын
I just looking for if you have any video about thoma burgeon last night, then I see this at the next morning. thank you!
@GenshinDPSCalc Жыл бұрын
Thank you too for watching! I made this video because a lot of comments from my previous video asked if Yanfei and Diluc can be good as alternatives to Klee.. so I made this 😁
@rrxphvel871 Жыл бұрын
niceee new vid❤
@assassindesire4785 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I've been playing Klee burgeon since 3.0 but didn't see her draw as much attention as she should 👍 Honestly your testing looks a little bit flawed (or that's what it looks like on this video), because both rotations and enemies positions change a bit for each run, so the timings of each character may be somewhat better if the conditions were always the exact same (yeah, this is kind off impossible to do in real gameplay). Having said that, i agree with your results and, while every character can almost do the same damage overal (adjusting the whole team for energy needs), Klee is in my "most objective opinion" the best character for burgeon right now. Not only she is easy to use (thanks to her AoE), has no energy needs nor needs rotation timings, and can do a charged attack if some blooms are far away, but also her "Sparkling Burst" passive can grant a lot of energy to the whole team. In my usual rotations i get about 10~12 energy from it, doing 1 charged every 2 normals, so she is great for a team with Baizhu and Xinqiu. And yep, she needs some crit rate for this to work, but mine goes with just a crit circlet and some nice substats and works just fine, so it shouldn't be so hard to do. Also some vapes every now and then won't lower your dps. Alright, i'm writing a lot already, take care and keep it up ✌
@GenshinDPSCalc Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the detailed information! Hybrid build with great crit / EM substats is another way to build a burgeon DPS with Nahida Baizhu combo, but it takes so much time farming for them..
@neilpatpat Жыл бұрын
For Dehya, one of the problems on putting her in Burgeon team is that her skill's Pyro application is different based on the enemies' height.. For mobs, it is fine but for even a ruin guard, most of the time it won't trigger the blooms on the ground.. Even on mobs, another problem was the 2.5 second proc of Pyro in her skill.. Even Thoma was better than her.. >.
@GenshinDPSCalc Жыл бұрын
Ah thank you for the information! so like Albedo and Raiden, it also suffers from shielded enemies I suppose?
@neilpatpat Жыл бұрын
@@GenshinDPSCalc yes it doesn't proc while the enemies are shielded.. the only alternative is to cast the skill near the bloom and once you've created more bloom seeds you need to recast it.. then if you have energy let her burst trigger bloom seeds one time and then swap/jump.. Guess her unintentional swap/jump in her burst has some utility after all 😂
@Axterix13 Жыл бұрын
One thing to keep in mind with her burst: The less you click the left mouse button, the fewer attacks she makes. Normally, that's a "Why would you want to do that?" thing, but for a burgeon team, it can let you stay in her burst, but reduce the amount of pyro application. Of course, she still won't work with Xingqiu or Yelan during said burst.
@satou5388 Жыл бұрын
my personal favorite would be thoma since he can be used off-field with ayato forming the team that i like to call "tomato team (thomato team)"
@arvidanseven862 Жыл бұрын
Burgeon team would be the best option to deal with Inquisitor once he's put on Spiral Abyss.
@enne1539 Жыл бұрын
How does it feel to be absolutely right? I tried yanfei burgeon team for the first time and finished abyss for the first time ever lol
@RyanPassek7 сағат бұрын
There is a middle ground for thoma, being that he uses a kitain cross spear to provide both em and energy, as well as fishing for er substats on the EM peices, and making sure to have baizhu on prototype amber and xq on fav. With that, you dont sacrifice much em (can easily sit around 800+) but you also get good energy sustainability.
@mangkedelupe3125 Жыл бұрын
Thanks again for this man! :)
@GenshinDPSCalc Жыл бұрын
No problem! Thank you for watching!!
@I.M.T.S Жыл бұрын
I have been using burgeon Klee for a while. The earliest record I have was of last November on floor 12, I nine stared. I used Zhongli, Klee, XQ, Nahida. I use Crimson witch 4p with EM, EM, EM. I thought 40% burning and burgeon damage bonus of CW would be better than gilded due diminishing return of having excess EM. Now that I got Baizhu and an extra thousand dreams, I tried Nahida, Klee, XQ, Baizhu on second part of floor 12. This comp took twice as long than my Nilou comp. I guess I should after all use Gilded on Klee. Edit: So I just tested both set on 12.1.1; with C2 Nahida highest burgeon damage I saw with Gilded was 48046 and with CW 47914. Gilded took 1:11min and CW 1:20min to clear. in both case Nahida had 942EM; KIee had 1111 base EM with Gilded and 982 with CW. But at the peak of rotation Gilded had 633.4% burgeon damage due to EM and CW had 623%. So I thought 40% from 4p CW would be added to 623% plus there is pyro damage from 2p. I guess $hit ton of EM from Gilded still edges out🤔.
@GenshinDPSCalc Жыл бұрын
I have calculated in my Baizhu video that even with 1000 EM, Gilded dreams set still gives more burgeon or hyperbloom damage than Crimson or Thundering Fury, but not by much, only around 40k vs 42k. However, farming for gilded dreams domain won't hurt, because you can also get better deepwood for Nahida or maybe other character. In my case, I had to equip deepwood on my Xingqiu in a team without Nahida..
@I.M.T.S Жыл бұрын
@GenshinDPSCalc True Gilded domain is more resin efficient. But in my case, it was the opposite. I had farmed Crimson domain for Diluc, Klee and HuTao, so I already had all the EM pieces I needed. But it's nice that Klee works well with burgeon. Back then, I had to learn machine-gun and I believe it was called Kite mechanics to use Klee adequately. I still use N3C with walk cancel.
@hedgehugs Жыл бұрын
always love a rare klee w
@raizerzzz4104 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, now i will try to get klee for new experience in 3.8 island
@finchk.6402 Жыл бұрын
top video again! thx for the analyses! =)
@GenshinDPSCalc Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@katsu_cj Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this bro! ❤😮
@GenshinDPSCalc Жыл бұрын
Thank you too for watching!
@Makkushimu Жыл бұрын
XL should probably have AOE hydro application in the test because her pyro application is so strong (in fact it's the strongest out of all pyros) that she overtakes the bloom application and instead applies burning. She isn't the best choice for Burgeon anyway. As for the others you didn't include (no mention of Amber, can't blame you though lol), Xinyan might want Zhongli instead, but I'm not a hundred percent sure how shield stacking functions, and if the order in which you do the shields determines which one takes the damage. Yoimiya wouldn't work, I'll hand it to you. Dehya can have burgeon teams without XQ, just plop an off-field AOE hydro application talent and it'll give you some seeds to burgeon. Granted she won't be too good, but it would have been interesting to see. This wasn't really an exhaustive test, but it had some useful results nonetheless. Thanks.
@GenshinDPSCalc Жыл бұрын
Multiple shields do not stack unfortunately, so if you have 2 shields, the attack will damage both shields simultaneously, so it would still break Xinyan's shield.. I hate this mechanic since they revealed it in a developer notes way back then.. this also makes crystallize shields pretty much useless, because they don't stack on top of our other shield...
@Makkushimu Жыл бұрын
@@GenshinDPSCalc So that's what it means when they said it doesn't stack 😭 That's really unfortunate. Thank you for clearing it up.
@Mollusk_Magus10 ай бұрын
I’m hoping to pull for nahida soon since I’ve heard she’ll be getting a rerun. Would this team work with Furina in place of Xingqiu?
@enne1539 Жыл бұрын
I used a bit of a weird yanfei burgeon for this abyss, tried a yanfei-xq-nahida-diona. Most probably not the optimal choice but diona froze the hydro enemies and did not let me die, the others obliterated the enemies. Im not a meta player, didnt expect 36* in abyss and im used to yanfei main dps so i used also CA and her burst - it worked just fine for me! For low-budget F2P players i really recommend it! I didnt even have the optimal built on everyone since yanfei was on WT and widsith
@leovu8500 Жыл бұрын
this is called an oven team by tcs
@enne1539 Жыл бұрын
@@leovu8500 oh really? Thanks for the name!! Kinda wanna check it out bc if I can improve the builds I really think it can help me in abyss ahaha maybe I'll finally get some stars on floor 12!!
@amaranthianonakukoroni5228 Жыл бұрын
Ahh a burgeon team vid, and baby klee leading the win 🥰🙏 Makasi banyak, memang butuh sangat video soal burgeon.
@biostem Жыл бұрын
So epic. Always awesome to see Klee get some love. Think this can function at all without Baizhu? Can you slot another hydro healer there, like Kokomi or Barbara, even if it's a DPS drop?
@dchilo Жыл бұрын
You can but there will be fewer dendro cores since Nahida will be the only dendro applier. Yaoyao is the one you should put instead of Baizhu.
@miavelvet Жыл бұрын
@@dchilo what about kuki?
@ichigo4chan Жыл бұрын
@@miavelvetKuki will trigger hyperbloom and steal too many cores, you also run the risk of her triggering other elemental reactions, ruining the bloom.
@duncan_of_hallback857 Жыл бұрын
You could also do Kazuha by swirling off of Bennet's burst
@vassago7231 Жыл бұрын
Finally some influencer finally gave recognition Klee deserves, Klee is the Burgeon Archon.
@oussamacharafi9689 Жыл бұрын
Yeah😂😂😂😂 finally someone
@yosoyiskah Жыл бұрын
Im in love with your content, thank u so much
@GenshinDPSCalc Жыл бұрын
Thank you too for watching my videos!
@absolkatti7837 Жыл бұрын
Dehya should have been the burgeon character 😢
@GenshinDPSCalc Жыл бұрын
Yeah I still remember everyone was hyping for the new burgeon character (Dehya), but sadly it didn't happen. Not sure when we'll get the new EM based pyro DPS that's intended for burgeon... Rumour says about Klee's new outfit, so I think they wanted to rerun Klee first then the new burgeon character a few patches later.. just a wild guess here 😁
@Ayumu31 Жыл бұрын
the fact that hu tao was doing burgeon was surprising
@mizihensem23879 ай бұрын
This is how U show comparison...nice bro
@niniana Жыл бұрын
I use Thoma full EM with R5 Kitain and I solved my energy problems :D
@viggy1637 Жыл бұрын
I think the only hope for Yoimiya burgeon is to use her burst in the rotation. I've seen some videos showcasing this, and they seem to have done at least decently (though still naturally single target oriented, due to the way her burst mark functions). It helps that the burst is tied to off-field/party member damage, encouraging units like Fischl, Nahida, Xingqiu and others while also giving them an ATK buff from Yoi's A4 in return.
@karinaml. Жыл бұрын
What great about yanfei is that she have shield at c4 . So you can run double hydro with nahida instead of shielder
@Kaozelle Жыл бұрын
finally a second person that proved my point. I was so far long saying klee is the strongest burgeon char and ppl were thashtalking.
@erwidobi7812 Жыл бұрын
This is interesting, and fun, and I'm glad it's been done On a lighter note, I can't help but be reminded of that scene in The Office, where Kevin tries to save a few seconds by simplifying his sentences. But, he then spends all that time explaining himself
@cottonpop8834 Жыл бұрын
Awesome team ideas! But I have a question: why gilded instead of flower of paradise for the pyro character? Is in this case gilded better? Or is it personal preference?
@karlomiguelgutlay Жыл бұрын
yeah, UP this, mine is nahida gets the deepwood, baizhu gilded, and klee use flower of Paradise.
@ajengwijayanti78713 ай бұрын
After neuvillete released, using dehya with neuvillete as burgeon team work very well I think..
@bulankatorse Жыл бұрын
Amazing vid! One stop shop! :)
@neovpx9864 Жыл бұрын
i would prefer testing 12-2-1 and 12-2-2 to se the energy economy and full rotation.
@lafeechloe6998 Жыл бұрын
You should use Childe as the one field character. He is the only hydro able to prevent burning in multitarget scenario and this change everything. This is by far the best burgeon team i tested. The combo for multitarget is just spam NA and for single target this is N1C (necessary for preventing burning because riptide is slower to proc in single target) This is also very easy to use if your Thomas is c4 and he uses r5 Kitain crosspear. You can basically use a 980EM build with 135 ER and its gonna run smooth like butter.
@mandolen3317 Жыл бұрын
It's much better to use him in Hyperbloom tho
@lafeechloe6998 Жыл бұрын
@@mandolen3317 really not. Childe is amazing in burgeon cause you have to prevent burning to allow burgeon to shine and he is the only one good at applying aoe hydro faster than every 1s fir both vaping the burning away and creating seeds. In Hyperbloom Childe does not have anything special and worse since he disrupt sometimes the dendro aura by eating it too fast. Baizhu or Nahida are far more effective
@mandolen3317 Жыл бұрын
@@lafeechloe6998 i mean, sure it works. But Hyperbloom is just better. i don't have time to go into more detail, but Hyperbloom does more dmg at the end of the day. My uid: 707200972, im a veteran player
@usmanya5110 Жыл бұрын
is there a fav user or a battery on your team cause i run Nahida on fav and bennett on sapwood along with both Childe and Thoma. i actually want a 2nd dendro unit to help with more fav mechanics and dendro res.
@usmanya5110 Жыл бұрын
@@mandolen3317nah i agree. i used to run childe hyperfridge but it just doesn't feel as good when running him in burgeon. Childe without vaporize feels meh to me. I'd rather run another hydro unit like Ayato, Xingqiu, Yelan, Kokomi etc on hyperbloom
@ancalyme Жыл бұрын
Thoma with C4, Kitain and someone else on the team holding Fav (like Xingqiu) pretty much erases his energy issues.
@GenshinDPSCalc Жыл бұрын
Yes! but unfortunately Kitain is a 4 star limited weapon banner that can only be gotten through its own banner, so you need to pull in a weapon banner to even get a chance 😥 Sadly I never pulled for weapon banner anymore (got bad experiences with the Amos Bow banner) so I will never have a Kitain in my account...
@ancalyme Жыл бұрын
@@GenshinDPSCalc Kitain is the craftable Inazuma polearm 😅 though I agree billets are hard to get Mine has an R5 tho
@GenshinDPSCalc Жыл бұрын
Oh wait I mixed up Kitain with the Xiphos! haha apologies!
@nicholasapicella5764 Жыл бұрын
What I mainly learned is that you can run burgeon with anyone so play with whoever you like. (But cmon we all know who we’re playing)
@ShoppingBored Жыл бұрын
Diluc is always the gentleman who lets the ladies finish first.
@stefanandreasson6408 Жыл бұрын
Hmm I wonder if a hybrid klee would outperform the full em klee. For example Klee, Yelan, Xinqui + dendro and run klee with Em sand, pyro goblet and crit circlet. Would that team outperform the full em burgeon klee?
@ruy71643 ай бұрын
You missed Sautee teams with Kazuha. Use Bennett, Xinqiu, Nahida and Kazuha, Kazuha swirling pyro will trigger them and give him ownership of the seeds.
@StarShade0 Жыл бұрын
Surprising to see Xiangling NOT crush these sort of times for once. I wonder if you build her the same way you would for National/International she’d do better. The DPS loss of Pyronado is staggering.
@naotonhan5253 Жыл бұрын
This is to be expected. Xiangling is not the best for burgeon teams because of her no-ICD in pyronado. In normal national teams, that no-ICD is welcomed to vape every hit, but in burgeon team, that's too much pyro application for bloom to happen
@ellosteve Жыл бұрын
thank you so much
@GenshinDPSCalc Жыл бұрын
Thank you too for watching!
@EmperorHagane9 ай бұрын
I think that Dehya on field with a C6 Candence would work pretty well
@niccko Жыл бұрын
Please, do more videos like this 👍
@GenshinDPSCalc Жыл бұрын
I will, thank you for your recommendation!
@tomekpiatek88 Жыл бұрын
I guess after 2 years of sitting on lvl 50, it's Klee building time.
@GenshinDPSCalc Жыл бұрын
Yeah, and you don't need to up her talents at all for burgeon team like this (to save resin). But if you have spare materials, you can go for 6,6,6 to get that extra liitle damage.
@wahabozomaki6312 Жыл бұрын
Thoma with inazuma em polarm 😁
@GenshinDPSCalc Жыл бұрын
Yes the Kitain cross spear!
@N1xko Жыл бұрын
have c0 rhoma with r1 inazuma spear full em and i have burst every rotation
@GenshinDPSCalc Жыл бұрын
Is it the Kitain cross spear?
@N1xko Жыл бұрын
@@GenshinDPSCalc yea that one keep forgetting the name i plan to refine it but no billets right now
@reomiomio Жыл бұрын
how much er from substats? having teammates w fav can also help
@sendyfernando6492 Жыл бұрын
@@reomiomio 170 for me with 4 set flower of paradise
@N1xko Жыл бұрын
@@reomiomio 140 from sub stats xingqiu & yao yao on fav
@AloyImpact Жыл бұрын
There are alternatives for Dehya in the form of Nilou, Kokomi, Mona. She does burgeon just fine.
@MakinItRain24-7 Жыл бұрын
Would using Charged attacks improve the time, especially for Yanfei? I imagine you intentionally didn't use them, but they are a big part of Yanfei's kit
@GenshinDPSCalc Жыл бұрын
It's because every time you use charge attack, it slightly delays the Xingqiu's hydro application, so you'll end up getting less dendro cores.
@MakinItRain24-7 Жыл бұрын
@@GenshinDPSCalc ohhhhhh I see thanks ❤️❤️❤️
@lafeechloe6998 Жыл бұрын
@@MakinItRain24-7 charged atk is less good because burgeonning effectiveness is better the less pyro is applyed. Thats why Thimas and klee are the fastest. Klee NA are slow and Thomas application speed is once every 3s
@300pingguy Жыл бұрын
Wtf? I just thinking about this 1 second ago and then youtube recommends this video
@abnerdanuarta9809 Жыл бұрын
subscribe then lol
@itsmegrimm Жыл бұрын
For Burgeon Kazuha,Klee,Yanfei, Thoma
@Fyodor1412 Жыл бұрын
Hyperbloom/Quicbloom vs Burgeon vs Superbloom. I'm Curious with how the clear time leaderboard would be
@Thorny_Recipient Жыл бұрын
Of course now we're all wondering... 😅 how do the the electro characters compare? Also is Nahida or Beidou a better driver with Raiden Shogun?
@NFYT Жыл бұрын
damn, time to use my triple crowned klee on this team, i dont have baizhu though i'll just use a healer like bennett
@chokeolatte Жыл бұрын
Is Magic Guide okay for Yanfei Burgeon? I have no Sac. Frags. and might not even get it anytime soon since I don't wish much.
@GenshinDPSCalc Жыл бұрын
Perfectly fine, no significant difference actually with that much EM already from the artifact set. It's just that Sac fragments sometimes reset her elemental skill once in a while.
@MinhTran-fm8wn Жыл бұрын
Everyone forget about dehya
@r.d.6290 Жыл бұрын
Are those builds doable without Baizhu? Could replace with YaoYao healing or Zhongli shielding?
@GenshinDPSCalc Жыл бұрын
Yes you can do with full HP build Zhongli without much damage loss! But as long as you're not fighting the doggos with corrosion mechanic! For Yaoyao, it's hard because her healing is not enough and you have to stay near the rabbit to get the healing..
@GenshinDPSCalc Жыл бұрын
Sorry I just tested against single target boss with Zhongli it turns out it doesn't have enough dendro application without Baizhu, so it's not really good :/ For multiple enemies though it seems fine with Zhongli.
@jongale9174 Жыл бұрын
can i ask your diluc, what was his build? full em or the normal atk, pyro and crit rate/dmg?
@jo-gk2ye Жыл бұрын
FINALLY KLEE!!!
@kawaiimika7974 Жыл бұрын
10:19 ...What? NO! THOMA IS CLEARLY BETTER THAN HER! LITTERALY ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GET SOME ER SUBSTATS AND REFINE YOUR KITAIN CROSS
@usmanya51107 ай бұрын
not to mention you can use someone else on field and put a better driver.
@AloyImpact Жыл бұрын
Me who uses Kaveh Thoma Xingqiu Baizhu
@nekozilla08989 ай бұрын
hi, a lot of time since this video jaja well i don have baizhu what other dendro character can be replaced?
@fernandoc.43489 ай бұрын
Yao Yao, pick her at lintern event
@satriahadjobaru2718 Жыл бұрын
I wish i have xingqiu and nahida, I only got kirara and collei 😢 and it hard to play with barbara
@glassy_rose Жыл бұрын
Does yanfei really work as well as described? I have her semi built and people say she applies too much pyro and that it would only be burning
@markvalor Жыл бұрын
What is the clear time if you played Hu Tao with n1c/n2c instead of just spamming NA?
@GenshinDPSCalc Жыл бұрын
It's about the same or slightly slower, but with added difficulty.. without proper crit and pyro build, the vape CA from Hu Tao is meaningless in full EM build. So it might work better if you use hybrid build instead (EM Pyro Crit).
@markvalor Жыл бұрын
@@GenshinDPSCalc I see! I was thinking that since Hu Tao is built with a decent amount of EM anyway, it would do well as both DPS and burgeon trigger.
@Queen_Introvert Жыл бұрын
I’m wondering if traveller is good for a counterpart to nahida and baizu with a Bennett and diluc at once
@billiamdankspeare9296 Жыл бұрын
trick question: the best burgeon unit is actually kazuha
@I.M.T.S Жыл бұрын
True, I guess if you really want you can add some water in air-fryer; Kazuha, XQ, Nahida, Bennett comp. But no one like their fries soggy (circle-impact).
@GenshinDPSCalc Жыл бұрын
You're right about the circle impact there.. I believe hoyo is phasing out old circle impact characters with the addition of new aggresive monsters and new convenient characters like Baizhu.
@mayraalejandragonzalezeraz5886 Жыл бұрын
You should make the super hyper bloom team too please.
@baconbankai Жыл бұрын
Beating a boss in 24 seconds is slow? So hard to grasp this game as a new player was going to maybe try and make a team xaingling, kazha, bennet and collei as the last slot I guess wanted to try and pull for kazuha and build around him with the characters I'll have and guess with that comp I could do burgeon reactions or maybe people have better suggestions on who to pair him with for the free characters I got bennet as my free 4 star
@Alice_Selene7 ай бұрын
Does anyone know why my Thoma only deals 4k damage to the burgeon with 950 EM?
@TheCekobiАй бұрын
yanfei/klee, xinqiu/yelan, nahida, emilie, can work?
@oussamacharafi9689 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful idea from you . Btw name of of the song😅
@Julia_Chan Жыл бұрын
What are the best options to replace baizhu with?
@naqibfarhan43567 ай бұрын
Yaoyao
@storagecrafter57016 ай бұрын
dehya can work as burgeon driver bang jago, pake ele skill bukan ele burst, tp emng durasinya sbntr cuma 12 detik, c2nya baru deh nambah durasi jd 18 dtk total
@pixelfrog3d548 Жыл бұрын
Why would you on-field Thoma, thats just leaving out one of his biggest upsides, that you can on-field a driver like Nahida
@usmanya5110 Жыл бұрын
or for a more preferable route a hydro onfielder. in most cases i feel like the hydro should be the most dominant aura here especially with Vape and Bloom.
@xiii8972 Жыл бұрын
wait, is gilded better than crimson witch for burgeon?
@coffeecat_ Жыл бұрын
Can I use Yelan instead of Xingquiu in the Klee team?
@kaushalabhyankar661310 ай бұрын
He didn't used hu tao's burst for a reason 😂
@ShirakoriMio Жыл бұрын
Imagine not charge attacking with hu tao
@ronnieketchum12417 ай бұрын
The true way klee was supposed to be played. BOOM BOOM
@roty3129 Жыл бұрын
what if I don't have baizhu? any suggestion?
@whyismynametaken123 Жыл бұрын
Hrm is it time dust off Tankfei to introduce her to Sumeru / Dendro??? I mean I have her at level 80/80 and her talents are halfway up already.. I think I'll do it!!!
@GenshinDPSCalc Жыл бұрын
You should do it, and you don't really need to up her talents at all. Her personal pyro damage doesn't matter, only her burgeon reaction do. Burgeon damage is only affected by character level, so you should level 90 her. For comparison, a level 80 character deals 31k burgeon damage and level 90 character deals 42k burgeon damage with the same EM...
@Patatano Жыл бұрын
please tell me why klee don't use her Q or E
@GenshinDPSCalc Жыл бұрын
Using Q will delay Xingqiu's burst attack by 2 seconds due to the animation, and that will stop the production of dendro cores, thus less burgeon damage. E also caused slight delay but in cases where there are dendro cores a bit too far, you can use it to trigger those cores! So you can use E occasionaly, but you don't need Q. Although in other comment, someone noted that using her Q can give you energy particles to the team as well..
@nguoisaohoa6410 Жыл бұрын
@@GenshinDPSCalc i will beat u up bro Jk
@jo-gk2ye Жыл бұрын
any klee teamcomp? i dont have baizhu, how abt yao yao? since the burgeon can kill klee easily
@glimmermoth9307 Жыл бұрын
That works, or use zhongli. Less cores but still works. There is also always good old triple pyro for klee aswell
@GenshinDPSCalc Жыл бұрын
You can make it work with Yaoyao, but it's too dangerous, Baizhu is pretty much needed in this kind of team comp...
@jo-gk2ye Жыл бұрын
@@GenshinDPSCalc 😢😢😢
@mjewan9920 Жыл бұрын
Try burgeon Em Em Em benett c6 r5 xiphos moonlight for the meme