Who's The BETTER Family Man: Doflamingo or Whitebeard? | ONE PIECE DEBATE

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5 ай бұрын

During Episode 83 of our podcast, That One Piece Talk. We received a call from a fan regarding who we believed was the better "Family Man," Doflamingo or Whitebeard. Each side was discussed and the debate was thought-provoking. Who did you choose and who do you agree with?
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@JRY17
@JRY17 5 ай бұрын
I love Doffy as a character and a villain and I will fight his case in many scenarios. But Doffy is never letting one of his family stab him and do nothing back to him.
@p_rnhub
@p_rnhub 5 ай бұрын
Exactly. But Whitebeard would see a family member kill another family and then try to kill him and still not do anything.
@deshardmyles86
@deshardmyles86 5 ай бұрын
Literally
@randomaccount6215
@randomaccount6215 5 ай бұрын
@@p_rnhubI mean bro had a bad feeling and I meannn he wasn’t wrong with that feeling😂 🍩
@sportmemer3178
@sportmemer3178 2 ай бұрын
What about what baby was doing?
@evoldarrellfelton1983
@evoldarrellfelton1983 5 ай бұрын
Corizon was a better family man to Law than Doffy was to his crew.
@Local_Dilf_In_Your_House
@Local_Dilf_In_Your_House 5 ай бұрын
Probably because of sen Goku
@p_rnhub
@p_rnhub 5 ай бұрын
You lying straight to gods face
@DrArthurCGarp
@DrArthurCGarp Ай бұрын
Corazon was gonna send Doffy’s whole crew to impel down. As far as I’m concerned Doffy did what he had to do, as for Law can anyone say that Doflamingo wouldn’t have gotten him healed? He’s hyper fixated on his inner circle of people AND offered Law a seat at the table after he killed Vergo
@sbarnes458
@sbarnes458 5 ай бұрын
Doffy “Loved too hard” was crazy😂 😂😂😂😂😂
@kakarotkills7
@kakarotkills7 5 ай бұрын
EVEN THE DOFFY FAN LAUGHED😂😂😂😂😂
@JLKaizen
@JLKaizen 5 ай бұрын
Squard stabbed white beard and he hugged him in response
@Nobodyespeacialjustaburner
@Nobodyespeacialjustaburner 5 ай бұрын
That a bad dad
@latinoce
@latinoce 5 ай бұрын
@@Nobodyespeacialjustaburnergood dad actually. he knew he was being manipulated and responded accordingly
@umbralowl
@umbralowl 5 ай бұрын
@@Nobodyespeacialjustaburner Did you see what happened? Squard started crying and apologized and made up up for what he did. Whitebeard perfectly read that Squard was manipulated and didn't need to be smacked, he just needed to know that he loved him too
@DbpLukcy
@DbpLukcy 5 ай бұрын
Doffy would've held him there an decapped homie
@kvng-__ghost3122
@kvng-__ghost3122 5 ай бұрын
@@DbpLukcyon gang just for being weak and tricked
@JustButton
@JustButton 5 ай бұрын
Thinking that Donquixote Doflamingo as portrayed in One Piece is in any way capable of loving another human being is insane.
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr 4 ай бұрын
It's obviously clear that the only true successor for Whitebeard and Roger is Luffy because no pirate from the warlords to the worst generation of pirates have displayed the traits Roger and Whitebeard has besides Luffy himself.
@emmanuelmondesir8677
@emmanuelmondesir8677 3 ай бұрын
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr Katakuri
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr 3 ай бұрын
Katakuri was defeated by the Tank Pirates, Black Beard Pirates, and the Germa Kingdom@@emmanuelmondesir8677.
@Kiing_jer
@Kiing_jer 5 ай бұрын
I said "huh?" out loud when I read that title lol
@xteddxick1
@xteddxick1 5 ай бұрын
ONG, because why is this even a argument
@kakarotkills7
@kakarotkills7 5 ай бұрын
Literally 😂
@JWilsonCollege
@JWilsonCollege 5 ай бұрын
Mine was a quiet "what?" followed by a much louder "HOW!?!?" 😂
@JonathanGulyn
@JonathanGulyn 5 ай бұрын
saying doflamigo is equal or greater than Newgate is blasphemous
@kakarotkills7
@kakarotkills7 5 ай бұрын
Seriously
@johannesschult4170
@johannesschult4170 5 ай бұрын
Larry also thinks that boa Hancock is plain stronger than old ray and blackbeard
@shwix6534
@shwix6534 4 ай бұрын
​That is not even a hot take, that s straight trash, i don t think it s real, she got beat by bb on panel so it doesn't make sense @johannesschult4170
@andrewwavington9025
@andrewwavington9025 5 ай бұрын
Blaming WB for Ace’s death is ridiculous WB told him not to follow BB & he didn’t listen WB helped save him and told him to flee but he went back and got himself killed.
@p_rnhub
@p_rnhub 5 ай бұрын
Yonko can't control 1 member of his crew/family that's crazy
@Hunter_Brandon
@Hunter_Brandon 5 ай бұрын
@@p_rnhubThis you Larry?
@kingmanga8575
@kingmanga8575 5 ай бұрын
@@p_rnhubis this a genuine an argument???? Did u expect WB to beat Ace unconscious every time he tries to leave or sumn? Lmaoooo
@danieloyeleye3257
@danieloyeleye3257 5 ай бұрын
Doflamingo had assets he cared about a lot and called them family but Whitebeard actually had a family that were willing to risk their lives for him and their brothers. I can understand the argument for Doflamingo but a man who never puts his family over his ambition can never be a better family man than Whitebeard.
@kingmanga8575
@kingmanga8575 5 ай бұрын
Assets is the best way to describe doflamingos “family”. They’re people who worship him and he uses them to get his way. He doesn’t love them he loves what they provide for him.
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr 4 ай бұрын
If it were the Strawhat Pirates Crewmates or Whitebeard's Crewmates in the exploding building on Punk Hazard they wouldn't have let them die like Doflamingo did, so yes it's obviously clearly stated out already in the context of the story already that the Strawhat Pirates and Whitebeard Pirates have a better family dynamic than Doflamingo and his crew@@kingmanga8575.
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr 3 ай бұрын
Your comment is the most truthful viewpoint of Doffy's ideology@@kingmanga8575.
@abdu7095
@abdu7095 Ай бұрын
Doffy's pirate crew also willing to bet their life on Doffy, wtf u smoking weed?
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr Ай бұрын
@@abdu7095 , Doffy allowed Vergo and Monet to die whereas Whitebeard, Roger, and Luffy would declare war on the world to save their fallen comrades, so I wouldn't really consider Doffy a true family man.
@dtayowns31
@dtayowns31 5 ай бұрын
Larry is wrong on this one Whitebeard definitely and ACTUALLY loved his family. Meanwhile Doflamingo loved a few but wouldn't go to the lengths whitebeard would and it wasn't unconditional
@johncrowley3322
@johncrowley3322 5 ай бұрын
Love is Loyalty and sacrifice. Duffy will not make sacrifices for his family
@abdu7095
@abdu7095 Ай бұрын
He love his family crew, he just hate traitor, thats it..
@DivineZenkai
@DivineZenkai 5 ай бұрын
Yea its not really a contest. Even as a kid, whitebeard always put whoever he considered his family above him. Whereas doffy killed his dad(who loved him btw) just to please some scumbag who was kissing up to him. I feel like doffy is definitely nuanced in the aspect of what it means to be a family man but you gotta realize the only people that doffy considered family are those who are yes men and kiss ups whereas whitebeard had a true family(minus BB)
@tamarcthomas4412
@tamarcthomas4412 5 ай бұрын
Doffy killed rosiante for betraying him and wanted Bellamy dead for being a disappointment. Whitebeard hugged the man that quite literally stabbed him in the heart and forgave him. No contest.
@Randanimation
@Randanimation 4 ай бұрын
Thank you guys I am finally getting to the stage where I can watch your videos spoiler free this is really fun and great to listen to
@Sireen-ity
@Sireen-ity 3 ай бұрын
Seb getting trolled for 30 minutes is the funniest
@JohtoBurglar
@JohtoBurglar 3 ай бұрын
is that what this is i was debating whether to watch this
@dphantom1314
@dphantom1314 5 ай бұрын
This is proof that while Larry can often be right. He's often just as wild as Seb when Seb's trolling. How you go from saying a reasonable argument that has the caller on your side. To then being so out of pocket that even the caller was questioning your sanity. The caller had to take a minute to remember which side of the argument he was even on before continuing the conversation after what Larry said.
@Eden0211
@Eden0211 5 ай бұрын
Yea, sometimes Larry takes things too far but I think it adds to the show dynamics.
@mk-oc7mt
@mk-oc7mt 5 ай бұрын
Dofi skipping along to Punk Hazard is a participation trophy, not best family man award
@houseofmatrix6174
@houseofmatrix6174 5 ай бұрын
He did come to save his crew
@kinGsaL1515
@kinGsaL1515 5 ай бұрын
Doflamingo's love was conditional, as seen with Corazon and his own father. Whitebeard's love was unconditional, as seen with Squard. How is this even a topic?
@jugo2fly
@jugo2fly 5 ай бұрын
Whitebeard fell off when he didn't go to save Oden his BROTHER in arms. He allowed Kaido to merk his broski and he didn't say or do nothing then he allowed Blackbeard to leave with no repercussions and only attempted to save Ace because he wanted him to be Pirate King
@Eden0211
@Eden0211 5 ай бұрын
He didn't know about Oden's death until later on.
@hoopsdebriefed8180
@hoopsdebriefed8180 5 ай бұрын
Nah doffy can’t see whitebeard.
@deshardmyles86
@deshardmyles86 5 ай бұрын
Lol this why i like larry , always playing devil's advocate. Im the same 😂 getting into arguments just for the fun of it
@heartofdawnlight
@heartofdawnlight 5 ай бұрын
with what was insinuated between doflomingo & viola... yeah no he could never be considered even remotely IMO... like its an obvious no contest. the reason white beard didnt chase after BB, & told his family not to is because he knew BB was to be feared. he knew it would end badly... thats also protecting his familly. he just didnt scortch earth like John wick when thatch was killed
@kakarotkills7
@kakarotkills7 5 ай бұрын
viola is a victim😭😭
@Demonboy007
@Demonboy007 5 ай бұрын
Imagine capping so hard, the dude who started the conversation had to pump the brakes. Someone put Larry in a zoo, he wildin' too much. And to defend Whitebeard when it comes to Blackbeard - this was a dude who had been with the Whitebeard pirates for two decades, and denied the commander position because "he didn't have that kind of ambition." Nah, that man kinda sus.
@10jose12liz
@10jose12liz 5 ай бұрын
The punk hazard breaks apart when u understand that he didn’t go to check on his loss he sent a CLONE to make sure he was still safe incase something (kuzan) happens
@romedebaine
@romedebaine 5 ай бұрын
I somehow agree with every point made. I'll add that doflomingo thought love was complete resignation. He received love in absolutes, and he gave it back by maintaining his "perfect" persona. It's ok to him if his family sacrifice themselves on his behalf because that's the best way for them to show him love. It was ok for him to sacrifice them and move on because it maintains his persona. He remains untouched and won't have to bend his knee. That's how he was taught to return the love. That's the version of love that didn't result in his family being back up on that tree. Both Doflamingo and Whitebeards versions of love got their families asses handed to them
@mikemula4025
@mikemula4025 5 ай бұрын
Love these debates what live was this
@88lalex78
@88lalex78 5 ай бұрын
Larry taps way too hard into that light skin energy! 😂😂
@pattiimeltzz
@pattiimeltzz 5 ай бұрын
Larry holding back the troll, cooking up thoughts in his head 😂
@cdabot
@cdabot 16 күн бұрын
Didn’t bro go to punk hazard to pick up spin dude baby 5 and ceaser not to check on monet and vergo💀💀
@leonkastilyo7463
@leonkastilyo7463 5 ай бұрын
“Never lay hand on wb’s crew, he will hunt you to the end of the world”, oden dies => wb “kaido is built different”, thatch dies => wb” bb is built different”
@Demonboy007
@Demonboy007 5 ай бұрын
Sad thing is, he wasn't wrong. One used to be his old crewmate, the other was a dude who had been with him for decades. They were actually built different.
@Eden0211
@Eden0211 5 ай бұрын
He didn't know about Oden's death until it was too late. Whitebeard still a better family man than Doffy.
@leonkastilyo7463
@leonkastilyo7463 5 ай бұрын
@@Eden0211 so it's ok for him to know that his family is killed as long as it was too late? Also what about thatch, is it too late also? At least the wb remnants still tried to fight bb when "it was too late" Doffy murked someone just because he disrespected pika's laugh, he also went alone to punk hazard and still tried to kill smoker even when an admiral was behind him. I also disagree on their argument about vergo and monet's sacrifice, because since they are willing to sacrife themselves for doffy means their familial love is strong and that means doffy was able to made them feel these familial love. And doffy is not a father figure, and some of them are also older, it's a very different kind of respect compared to wb
@draickx
@draickx 2 ай бұрын
Lol this time Larry was tripping xD
@heartofdawnlight
@heartofdawnlight 5 ай бұрын
Doflomingo's trauma as a child didnt make him love more. it literally impeded his ability to love... guy has ptsd from when he was a kid but that doesnt change the fact that if he sees a family member make a mistake theres 0 chance for reconciliation or forgiveness. death is the only response... he rules his family, he doesnt lead them. hel he rules them out of fear
@p_rnhub
@p_rnhub 5 ай бұрын
Being vulnerable in a world of pirates and marines gets you killed
@Eden0211
@Eden0211 5 ай бұрын
​@@p_rnhubThat is not the debate.
@heartofdawnlight
@heartofdawnlight 5 ай бұрын
@@p_rnhub Yeah okay? his repulsion to vulnerability still made him not only a worse family man, but a worse person in general.... Like the main arguement used against WB in this debate is that he let Blackbeard go after killing thatch... He did that for the safety of his family. BB was to be feared with his new DF, God knows what WB knows about him.... Like he supossedly gave shanks his scar right? hes not weak & he just got one of the scariest DFs in the verse... If WB KNEW what the yami yami was capable of then yeah he 100% made the right call to not have the family chase after him.
@teoguajardo4103
@teoguajardo4103 4 ай бұрын
The fact with Thatch is he had already died. Ace was still alive. WB didn't want to rush in and risk losing more sons, until Ace was sentenced to death, then it was time to do everything in his power to save him. If nobody offered to go with, WB would have gone alone.
@mikemula4025
@mikemula4025 5 ай бұрын
What live was this
@maddenboss6564
@maddenboss6564 5 ай бұрын
Larry was cooking the whole vid
@ishmaelphillips5219
@ishmaelphillips5219 5 ай бұрын
I agree with seb on this one
@Quavon9786
@Quavon9786 5 ай бұрын
25:59 Oden, Ace, Izo, Dogstorm and catviper are beating Doffy and his Crew
@Eden0211
@Eden0211 5 ай бұрын
Unless you are using novel Ace, he is not beating Doflamingo. Izo? Come on bro. Dogstorm and Catviper would def need sulong form to do so, but I can see that. Oden yea, he'd beat them.
@Gwoog55
@Gwoog55 5 ай бұрын
@@Eden0211 novel ace is canon tho…
@OntopPerron
@OntopPerron 5 ай бұрын
would be dope if you guys invite Romans d sensei on here
@kadeembest164
@kadeembest164 5 ай бұрын
Saying doffy didn't do anything is crazy. Now he didn't do anything to these people on that island but he was still old enough to have slaves. He was upset with his father that they gave up their slaves and servants and now had to live among these lesser humans.
@DDFF-qn8ic
@DDFF-qn8ic 5 ай бұрын
Dad Doffy: 1 Carry your weight in the family 2 you financially benefit in the Family business 3 Punishment is conducted even it's your a blood relative Dad WhiteBeard: 1 You can do whatever you want even becoming a traitor 2 no killing and stealing in the family (it happen) 3 when it's happen he didn't punish the member and let he's son fight each other to the death
@jaidenhernandez2373
@jaidenhernandez2373 5 ай бұрын
They forgetting that the only reason whitebeard didn’t go for Blackbeard or didn’t allow his family to go after Blackbeard is because of blackbeards devil fruit. He tried to hold Ace back because he knew Blackbeard would’ve beat him. Whitebeard had or must’ve done research on the Blackbeards fruit so he knew what it was capable of. Whitebeard definitely wanted his revenge on Blackbeard but he knew the risks were too high.🤷🏻‍♂️
@WavaFlav
@WavaFlav 4 ай бұрын
A thing they aren’t bringing up is Doffys family came to him and put it in his head his status with the family.
@cozbyv3
@cozbyv3 5 ай бұрын
Bro WB called MOST(good) pirates his children
@1lilillusion
@1lilillusion 5 ай бұрын
Ace seen this in marineford and he was shocked that Laffy made it 1st not white beard and ETC
@RobertsonIsland
@RobertsonIsland Ай бұрын
They are both family men, true. However the difference is that the Whitebeard pirates were a real family, and the Donquixote family was a mafia family. Whitebeard protects his children and forgives them for anything except killing another member of the family. He even forgave a personal betrayal from Squard. Doffy will protect you and care for you only so long as you follow his orders and stay loyal as a dog
@PraiseCheeses32
@PraiseCheeses32 4 ай бұрын
One more thing in favor of Doflamingo. Dofi puts himself first because it's what's best for his family. If he dies the rest of the family suffers. Whitebeard rolling up to save Ace put his entire family at stake for his favorite son.
@kakarotkills7
@kakarotkills7 5 ай бұрын
Larry just likes to argue with seb💀💀
@jacobmcdade33
@jacobmcdade33 5 ай бұрын
So my question is which is the weakest DF to you and how would you make it OP (Over Powered) being better than every other in terms of skill, and useful in a fight
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr 4 ай бұрын
If I were a mass murder that's destroyed more planets than Frieza than I'd use the Magnet Magnet Devil Fruit to kill people like Kizaru otherwise I'd fight all of my battles in armored Barrier Barrier abilities.
@jacobmcdade33
@jacobmcdade33 4 ай бұрын
Fair enough
@sheltonphillips3052
@sheltonphillips3052 4 ай бұрын
The way I see it is Whitebeard has unconditional love towards his family and Doffy has conditional love for his family
@meekdolla4883
@meekdolla4883 5 ай бұрын
19:43 bro don’t believe what he saying he’s playing devil advocate I get it now
@riggos_rangers446
@riggos_rangers446 5 ай бұрын
This isn’t even a debate, WB all the way. Doffy has a case for best villain in OP, but family man, HELL NO!
@figuures6098
@figuures6098 5 ай бұрын
Squard literally stabbed whitebeard and whitebeard hugged him in response Corazon metaphorically stabbed doflamingo by betraying him, and he killed him in response
@darin7108
@darin7108 5 ай бұрын
“No the opposite of love is not in deference “ Well shiii little boi, we all learned wrong. Whats 2+2?? I used to think it was 4 but you seem to know everything, confidently.
@lifeflows8594
@lifeflows8594 4 ай бұрын
If dofy got stabbed in the back by his family like whitebeard did he wouldn't be chill.
@kerrychristensen7204
@kerrychristensen7204 4 ай бұрын
F Whitebeard. He led an entire army of his 'children' into Marineford to save just one of his 'sons' and/or to die a manly death. How many of them died or were maimed/traumatized from that? How many of the people on Fishman Island and in the New World that counted on the Whiteboard Pirates protection were killed/maimed/traumatized/ENSLAVED because of that? The story and fans treat him as a hero, so I judge him more harshly than the villain.
@meekdolla4883
@meekdolla4883 5 ай бұрын
You can’t love somebody so hard you will kill them 19:27
@theyeastwiththeleast4718
@theyeastwiththeleast4718 4 ай бұрын
Do flamingo never cared about any of his crew mates. If you pay attention you can tell that he is manipulating all of them and playing off they’re vulnerabilities so that they think he really cares about them
@bow_ttg2049
@bow_ttg2049 5 ай бұрын
I feel like yall hit all the important points: 1. Whitebeard takes this cause he genuinely loved them as kids. Doffy’s family was more mafioso. I love you you’re family but if you mess up and liability, you’re expendable. Not only cause of business but he’s not as strong as WB 2. WB loved and risked it all for his kids and his strength and infamy insulated them. But the lack of accountability failed them 3. WB literally told Ace to forget about revenge for thatch cause he had a bad feeling leading to Ace and his crew dying I feel like y’all gave too much credit to WB just based off his strength and renown. Had Doffy been on the same level of strength and renown he would have been just as reckless and willing to risk everything like WB
@tehillahville
@tehillahville 5 ай бұрын
it is weird how he didnt do anything about Thatch
@NahshonMark
@NahshonMark 5 ай бұрын
Luffy couldn't beat everybody but he is still willing to die for his friends Dolfy doesn't even compare
@cohenfox2106
@cohenfox2106 5 ай бұрын
Bruh, Doffy been evil😂. This child been torturing slaves and was mad that they could get more slaves
@kadeembest164
@kadeembest164 5 ай бұрын
Thatch died at the hands of another son. It's not that easy to go kill your son. The marines though are already their enemy. Can't let them kill his son publicly at that.
@NahshonMark
@NahshonMark 5 ай бұрын
Whitebeard was way more compitent and loved more the dolfy Its not even close. Thatch was the beginning of the end for white beard. A younger whitebeard would of handled all that sooner. Black beard took advantage of the fact that whitebeard could not move the way he did in his prime.
@GuinoTheProphet
@GuinoTheProphet 4 ай бұрын
The better argument for a family man is Whitebeard and Luffy or Shanks and GoatBeard
@jordanwalker6819
@jordanwalker6819 4 ай бұрын
Whitebeard still saw blackbeard as a son for the longest that's why he didn't just go kill him
@kakarotkills7
@kakarotkills7 5 ай бұрын
CORAZON>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
@coronbrown9238
@coronbrown9238 5 ай бұрын
Fantastic debate. I agree it’s Whitebeard. You can make a solid argument with Doffy.
@Timetiger
@Timetiger 5 ай бұрын
If Dofi had WB's strength would he have done what WB did? If no then I think WB is the better family man. Also flip that. If WB has Dofi's level of strength would he have still gone to Marineford?
@Mr.Silence.
@Mr.Silence. 5 ай бұрын
Seb is correct here
@nika-theliberationwarrior
@nika-theliberationwarrior 5 ай бұрын
Doflamingo killed his own father, Withebeard lost them to the country’s pirate / marine / Celistrial Dragon attacks. Don’t even compare Dofy with Withebeard.
@TOL42
@TOL42 5 ай бұрын
whitebeard loved ace even when he tried to kill him over and over again, doffy wouldn't have that type of love
@abhishekabhoykumar2062
@abhishekabhoykumar2062 5 ай бұрын
Only reason doffy went to punk hazard is cause he is the only one fast enough in his 'family' . His family is more of a mafia as compared to a family.
@yuan713
@yuan713 5 ай бұрын
The opposite of love is fear. If you think about Im sure I don't gotta type it
@Eden0211
@Eden0211 5 ай бұрын
It is not.
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr 4 ай бұрын
Luffy and Zoro have no fear at all, and they have more unconditional love than Doffy does, so saying the opposite of love is lust or apathy is completely wrong@@Eden0211.
@kvng-__ghost3122
@kvng-__ghost3122 5 ай бұрын
Whitebeard never stood on tht business ace got kidnapped spent late oden died he never spent Shid he never spent of teach for killing his son or capturing ace
@minch_me
@minch_me 5 ай бұрын
If Weevil is his son, whitebeard is not so great at family...
@user-ml7vg8nt7l
@user-ml7vg8nt7l 5 ай бұрын
Whitebeard can be criticized as a family man that was soft to a fault. But it can be questioned if doffy was ever soft and caring with his family at all. He might have just thought of ''family'' as a romanticized concept in his head rather than actually caring about any of those people. Since he's so willing to kill them whenever they don't serve his goals. It's cynical but still valid. Whereas when Whitebeard got betrayed way more directly with a sword in his chest. Which might have very well killed him in the condition he was in. He didn't disown his son or abandon him but still loved him. While alot of doffy's closest family hated him and tried to betray him. Whitebeard's entire fleet alot of them probably not having that close of a relationship with him cried at his death. Because of how good of a bond they had
@velenciaga
@velenciaga 5 ай бұрын
Doffy went to Punk Hazard after Monet and Vergo. Whitebeard ain’t slide for Oden AT ALL
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr 4 ай бұрын
Doffy went to save people that either joined the Strawhat Pirate Grandfleet, or people that are in Impel Down with him, but he didn't send the real Doffy to save Monet and Vergo like Luffy and Whitebeard would've done, so yes the true family men in One Piece are Luffy and Whitebeard.
@lmac40762
@lmac40762 5 ай бұрын
I do think Doflamingo cares about his family more then he gets credit for but saying hes anywhere near whitebeard is crazy. Donflamingo has favored possessions; whitebeard has sons he loves. Whitebeard was being cautious with blackbeard because it was Teech and he's built different. This is a dude acknowledged by Shanks, Whitebeard knew he was dangerous.
@emmanuelmondesir8677
@emmanuelmondesir8677 3 ай бұрын
Larry Bayless
@CrimsonKel
@CrimsonKel 5 ай бұрын
My late dad 🗿🗿
@Raiga345
@Raiga345 5 ай бұрын
Why didnt whitebeard just go after Teach with the whole crew?
@thefrenchmilf
@thefrenchmilf 4 ай бұрын
No, it's their individual character Switch the roles and DG's and life style, Whiteboard would be the same person
@xdrago5602
@xdrago5602 5 ай бұрын
Whoever says doflamingo just got manipulated into believing it just like doglamingos "family". Doflamingos entire character is about manipulation, not family, and every single person in his family is manipulated in some way or another. MelonTeee's character breakdown on Doflamingo explains this much better than i can. Doflamingos a fake family man eho doesnt have a shred if love for his family and is the absolute worst family man in the series, worst than Yassop the deadbeat.
@ttech8054
@ttech8054 5 ай бұрын
Well black beard is also his son. Its hard for parents to walk away from they kids when u think of white beard even if he’s not exactly his family😂
@meekdolla4883
@meekdolla4883 5 ай бұрын
17:16 End of the discussion thanks to Sabastian
@meekdolla4883
@meekdolla4883 5 ай бұрын
22:10 yes he got twisted love yes he loves his family but you can’t put him next to WHITEBEARD
@rodneyashley8375
@rodneyashley8375 5 ай бұрын
Larry had hood arguments
@Iwasnevergivenaname493
@Iwasnevergivenaname493 5 ай бұрын
I almost always agree with Larry’s points but god damn his last point was some hot garbage
@TOL42
@TOL42 5 ай бұрын
wasn't it strongly suggested that doffy graped viola?!
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr 4 ай бұрын
Doffy did in fact rape Viloa as mentioned in the SBS segments of the manga, and the only reason that scene was cut out of the anime/manga because that'd make One Piece a Seinen series, but yes Doffy feels lust more than he feels love like Luffy and Whitebeard does.
@skeezsama3771
@skeezsama3771 5 ай бұрын
There’s no way Larry believes this
@BigpopsMcGee
@BigpopsMcGee 5 ай бұрын
I disagree. I think when you joined doflamingo’s family/crew, you had to except his belief that his family’s goal and destiny came first and your life second. He also knew that if someone failed kaido wouldn’t take “oh, part of my crew failed’ escaped and survived”. This would bring trouble to the rest of the family. Failure wasn’t not an option once they put in with kaido.
@gbemigaakiniola8744
@gbemigaakiniola8744 5 ай бұрын
Doflamingo told one of his crew to die for him 😂😂😂😂😂
@wilt2303
@wilt2303 5 ай бұрын
Playing devil's advocate concerning morals of fucked up characters like Doffy isn't something I would ever be willing to do lol
@aabidfarooq1423
@aabidfarooq1423 5 ай бұрын
Just a thought though…. But take a second… what’s is the chance that zunesha actually is joyboy’s ship…. We all saw that giant straw hat which belongs to joyboy of course… which makes the joyboy to be from giant tribe of Elbaf ((( maybe that’s what roger told shank about which made him smile to go to elbaf and wait there… otherwise why would shanks protect elbaf and more importantly giants can protect themselves why do they need protection from shanks unless shanks told them something only giants knew about which made them trust shanks…. Which may be the same thing roger specifically told him))) … Now if joyboy was a giant from elbaf and he had other giants on his crew… he will be needed a larger vesel/ship to move around which actually is zunesha…. . . 2 feb 2024... 12.45 am india
@glennbaniaga7251
@glennbaniaga7251 5 ай бұрын
Doflamingo killled hIs father and brother(HIS FELLOW BLOOD). A real family man WILL NEVER KILLHIS OWN FAMILY. Whitebeard's crew is not related to him by blood but Whitebeard tread them as his own family. He called Oden his brother. When Oden wants to journey with Roger Whitebeard allowed him. When Ace was about to be executed he went to Marine fold to save him. When Squadro stabbed him he just hugged him. He allowed Ace, son of Roger(His Rival) to be part of his family. When he was about to fight Blackbeard he told his family not to join him because he wants them to live on. .So the answer is so obvious that the better family man is Whitebeard. THE QUESTION IS SO STUPID. THE BETTER QUESTION TO ASK IS WHO IS BETTER FAMILYMAN KATAKURI OR WHITEBEARD?
@andrewbutjerevic7688
@andrewbutjerevic7688 5 ай бұрын
A family man loves beyond themselves Doffy absolutely does not love past himself , if it’s between himself and anyone he’s picking himself He’d throw every member of his family into hell if it meant him getting away In contrast whitebeard would throw everything he has including his life for 1 member of his family and to top it off he dosnt force anyone to do the same but he wants them all to be willing to die for their own family member No chance doffy is a family man and chance is he comparable to whitebeard
@meekdolla4883
@meekdolla4883 5 ай бұрын
25:57 hell no WB pirates would win
@Kindservant
@Kindservant 5 ай бұрын
Doffy shot his brother dead, don’t tell me that’s love please
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr 4 ай бұрын
I agree with comments like yours whenever it comes to addressing Doffy as a character than comments like Larry's.
@Rossy890
@Rossy890 5 ай бұрын
Larry really said psycho kid doflamingo saw love and said it’s wrong🤣🤣🤣 wth. Na he loved being a celestial dragon and the status. He hated his father for taking them from they not for them getting beat fjr being celestial dragons. If you give him enough credit to say he seen love and blah blah blah you also have to say he seen the wrong in being a celestial dragon and knew east his father did was right. No matter what came with it. Not bend at the knee🤦🏾‍♂️🤣😂 Edit: I’m convinced Larry be trolling now he know what say get the chat rowled and seb🤣🤣
@kakarotkills7
@kakarotkills7 5 ай бұрын
THIS IS A NO BRAINER💀💀💀WB EASILY .. THAT WAS TRULY HIS ENTIRE LIFES GOAL💀DOFFY KILLED HIS OWN BLOOOOD FAMILY💀💀💀
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