Who's the Most "Black?" Strangers Take DNA Tests

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00:41 Discussion
02:53 Strangers Rank Themselves
09:30 DNA Test Results
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[@gyosob7265]

Jonathan nodding in satisfaction was so funny LMAOOO

[@telayajackson2.023]

There are spammers copying and pasting your comments on here.

[@thebarbie222]

He was like “ I told you so “ 😭😭

[@paulwaltersheherfeministvl521]

I like people with long brain. I have long amount of disl*kes btw. Why? Maybe people with short brain disl*ke because jealous of my long amount of subscr*bers. Please have long brain, dear gyo

[@tibodeclercq2131]

I am satisfied they use DNA. Nowadays with this self-identification and more than 2 genders stuff science gets ignored.

[@ReesieB22]

Yeah fr I loved Jonathan. I'm surprised he didn't say anything tho

[@aiman7637]

Idk about yall but this was the most chaotic and fun episode that jubilee has ever done the saltiness between Jonathan and joselyn was sooo funny

[@WoahhTeamJacob]

Yes i was grinning the entire time. This episode was full of life babbyyyy

[@piaschmidt7357]

it was fun but deffo made me question a lot of things. It seems americans view race more based on experience and "culture" rather than what race they actually are (genotype + phenotype). lol i dunno i think this is why there are a lot of "transracials" in the black community. I mean my mum is mixed and my dad is white, i have met many people like me who would STILL identify as black or biracial because their mixed parent identified as such. Its very confusing

[@hanahahmad]

Ikrr

[@re_i_gn]

They'd be great friends if they spent more time together lol

[@2apur]

so funny = so annoying, apparently.

[@theindecisivecrest]

The beef between Joselyn and Jonathan was immaculate😂

[@TheRealNY.]

Fr

[@yesyesyes666]

i was the 1k like

[@SundayBlues555]

Can't believe Josselyn is dating Blue Face Ex girlfriend/baby mom, Jaidyn Alexis.

[@Jamestele1]

Josselyn is obviously a very insecure person, who can not handle facts

[@LindaAnderson2931]

@@SundayBlues555 Joselyn dating Blue face ex? Is this true?

[@JazzyB9481]

The way Joselyn successfully gasliy her way to the number 2 spot....I wish I had her confidence 😂😂😂😂

[@GGG11578]

Sad…

[@cinnamonstar808]

casting of BLACK PANTHER went down like this!

[@JonathanHilierChannel]

delusion=/=confidence and neither does gaslighting...

[@SundayBlues555]

Josselyn had a channel is dating Blue Face Ex girlfriend/baby mom, Jaidyn Alexis.

[@lovelypoets4003]

Don't. Trust me people don't like it. I guarantee ppl stay away from her. She toxic

[@djgulston]

Johnathon was so happy! 😂 He was just itching to prove Josselyn wrong.

[@nasirfadhiyare5060]

😂

[@daith_izumi]

She was trying so hard to prove him wrong too. They’re dynamic is funny

[@nycsweetnessniijiamarukhan7918]

Me and him are around the same percentage, I'm about 1% higher though

[@annerussell-bruno9783]

Everyone knew she should have been in the 3rd or 4th position

[@ailynnmckae1130]

Joselyn was arrogant in a funny way she didn’t over do it and you can tell she was making herself laugh too 😂 I love people who don’t take everything too serious

[@kr5754]

nah it was annoying she was trying to over do it but didnt wanna seem too pushy but still tried too much

[@bun-e9361]

She’s hella smooth 🙈

[@psychobillynumbnuts1]

Hella ignorant

[@smitty7326]

the little interviews in between scenes is what made it funny to me. Just that little insight that she sees it kinda like a game.

[@user-he2ou2ex2f]

I thought she was taking herself too serious

[@ledimusiq]

Johnathan's face when they called out Josseleyn's results will never not be the best thing about this episode

[@igobevaka7471]

Serena claimed her spot said Eritrea and no one tried to touch her.😂

[@likedmyowncomment3547]

The way they let Josselyn be above Johnathon knowing damn well that's a lie. But also all of Ciara's blackness went straight to her heart because she speaking like a black queen. 👸🏾👑

[@justingreenidge9684]

U mean black king 😂

[@ticiat5832]

@@justingreenidge9684 excuse you?

[@surrealmadrid7971]

@@justingreenidge9684 what?

[@5kitz]

@@ticiat5832 bih built like a power 5 runnin back

[@manictothecore]

@@5kitz huh?

[@2536l1]

I would like to see a middle ground on people who identify as black americans vs african americans. I think some people use these terms very specifically and I wonder what their reasons are for this

[@kadelu1137]

Interesting idea!

[@kbelmar]

Yes pls

[@treeve13]

YES

[@sneakerhead6625]

i feel like it should be migrant black americans and black americans so we can hear from carribeans and and africans and other diaspora members instead of just africans

[@Frankie1441FAO]

YES YES YESSSS I HAVE BEEN SAYING THRIS OMGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE OMGEEEEEE

[@Armyblink4life554]

Joselyn and Jonathan were hilarious their attitudes were very straightforward and high strong but in an appropriate way that comes off light hearted and funny

[@girlofanimation]

I love how competitive Josselyn and Jonathan were. Great dynamic.

[@blade1723]

Y’all should do a video where people rank each other based on attractiveness with a mask vs without. Would be a great idea

[@addbackwards]

That would be HILRIOUSSSS

[@amuchen9609]

@@addbackwards 😭😂

[@Ale-2002]

Yesss

[@candice283]

Yesss please let that would be so cool

[@Sorriyabanadouri]

YESSSSS

[@isaiah1931]

I was confused on how they were ranking themselves because some mentioned cultural aspects but others brought up their family lineage but the scale was a DNA test. I think Josselyn had the family lineage but felt more “culturally” black than Jonathan based on mainstream media factors which was why she wanted to be ranked above him. Since they were going off of DNA though as the bottom line they should’ve put Jonathan above her no doubt.

[@soyouthinkyoucan...9361]

Overalll.. that made it funnier cuz they was all confused too. Jubilee could’ve been more specific but it’s not being had them to figure out it out themselves

[@danielalbo3781]

Typical jubilee

[@littlemscutiez]

exactlyyy

[@daquoncooper9259]

she didnt base it of media factors she straight said because of his eye color. biologically less melanin equal brighter eye colors so it was a valid reason

[@daquoncooper9259]

@@snailsrslow625 when did she add excessive info about herself or johnathan? she literally said his eye color what you said is not related to what i said or what the original statement said. im aware that she gaslit them, she said it herself obviously i wouldnt deny something she herself said.

[@kedronmarsh1773]

Being of Louisiana Creole descent and darker this just makes me laugh. Skin color doesn’t always determine European descent. I’m dark and I am about 53% European descent. Lol culturally I’m black and so are my experiences

[@francishall9410]

"Black" is not a culture, language, or anything else. It's just a color.

[@breenicole4205]

Did you take a DNA test for that percent? Look at your pfp I would have never guessed that tbh.

[@kaylao.3326]

@@francishall9410you sound ridiculous

[@breenicole4205]

@@kaylao.3326 it’s actually very true.

[@breenicole4205]

@@katiedidd7825 I realize that after me and all my friends took DNA test. The one with the darkest skin and kinkiest hair was like 20% less African than the one with the lightest skin and loser curls. You never know what you will get with the test but it’s very insightful.

[@jadesmith7983]

Skin tone imo plays the biggest role in who seems "blacker" than others. The darker you are the more you are assumed to be of majority African ancestry. I actually thought Jocelyn should have been in the middle because of her skin tone.

[@only_fair23]

Yeah, and it's ultimately your skin tone that a stranger sees, and determines how to treat you. Nobodies carrying around their genetic data with them

[@justcallmebrian793]

Obviously it is not the case! Lol

[@justcallmebrian793]

Obviously it is not the case! Lol

[@justcallmebrian793]

Obviously it is not the case! Lol

[@Chloeeezyyy]

If you’re informed about genetics, then yes it would.

[@GigiMurakami]

Straight off the cuff, this needed more darker-skinned Black people.

[@uw0k]

exactly

[@asdfghjkl3003]

ikr. Jubilee sometimes includes mixed people in videos about black people. Like ciarra is 20% black, she should be on a video about biracials. I also wish there was more darksinned people considering they are more common than lightskined people. And this is coming from someone who is lightskined.

[@cindyleep5431]

yeah and just all black ppl in general. I guess california has a lot of biracials but they could've done better.

[@starobviously4956]

the girl with straight hair should’ve been replaced by a darkskin black person.

[@ifyouwantoreplyjustclickth5063]

@Ghostface_CODM no they arent black and. Ive seen indian and mexican and filipino people who look blacker than them.

[@michaellakosia6876]

This was interesting. Josslyns confidence and gaslighting to convince others in the group of her blackness was funny. It was interesting to finally see her results. I think she was very surprised by it. More of this bc our personal experiences, knowledge of the world and race truly affects our perception of others. Love these videos!

[@simpleplanfan011]

Someone copied your comment word for word. Yikes.

[@gabby-ln7uc]

damn someone copied ur comment

[@DD-rh2sz]

I personally found it more weird than funny. Like why is everyone so obsesses with being white or black. Aren't we passed that way of thinking? Be happy with whatever you are. If I found out I was 90% black tomorrow it wouldn't change who I am or how I treat people. I feel like Josselyn would have a mental breakdown if she found out she was mostly white.

[@vakiatue]

Being black has nothing to do with genetics. Many people can have black genes and appear other race on the outside. Being black is a experience, a connection with your ancestors and heritage that you don't need to explain. It's tiring how people try to put everybody into blackness just because their father is black or because the one drop rule. It may makes sense in USA or South Africa, because of their stories with segregation and apartheid, but for the rest of the world, you have to look black in order to be one. Your own kind has to recognize you as their own.

[@DD-rh2sz]

@nnnatalie I guess she didn't see her skin color? She was at best in the middle for dark skin. I said it was weird that she was going to the extent of gaslighting people to stay in the "more black" section and she was trying to convince people. She couldn't accept being told they didn't think she was that black. And like I said, if i was perceived more black or more white I wouldn't take it personal. Both sides have beauty in them

[@ladylynniece6134]

Jubilee and friends, I appreciate you guys for taking the time to make a video like this! It created the space to actually talk about "Blackness" in a tangible way. That being said, I wished the participants would've delved deeper into the topic and not have kept it so surface level. There are so many factors that make a person black and not all of it is dependent on genetics and how melanated you are. While that is a major factor it is not the only significant one. I think delving into where and how one feels the most comfortable (environment wise) and who they resonate with the most when it comes to present day as well as historically are indicative. The number one person, Serena, brought up the fact that both her parents being from "Eritrea" was significant enough to keep her at number one. My counterpoint and what I wished one of the other participants had brought up, is that we (African Americans) do not have that luxury. Due to the slave trade (that lasted for hundreds of years) a lot of black people were dispelled from cultures and communities and interspersed among people that didn't want us and forcibly tried to erase us. Even if we took a DNA test or tried to follow a family tree as far back as it would go, we will never be able to know for sure where we came from and what tribe was (or is) linked to us. So while her point is significant it should not have been the deciding factor because the playing field for that is not level and just because we don't know where we came from specifically, it doesn't make us any less black. Another aspect that was touched on but not thoroughly discussed is skin tone. What a lot of people don't know or seem to want to believe is that black people are capable of having children that look like just about every race (skin tone, hair texture, eye color, body type, etc.) without directly breeding with said look-a-like race. In fact, historically, that was the case before interbreeding became normalized (and in some cases fetishized) to have children that were physical outliers and did not look both parents or other immediate members of the family. It should also be noted that we seem to be the only race capable of that phenomenon. I don't know if it's because we are capable of holding so much history within our DNA that certain traits and characteristics are able to jump, skip and span generations for a specific reason or if it's just happenstance but there are definitely multiple occasions where this anomaly has taken place. No other race (that I'm aware of) has this particular capability. So for that reason I would not have automatically assumed that they were the least "black" because of their skin tone. Overall, while it was a great discussion and a nice video I do believe that the mark was missed and would love a part two where individuals are open to this kind of dialogue and expound on why we think and act the way we do because even that would expand on the subject.

[@melitajay]

Blackness is just genetic, actually.

[@shimmer4771]

We can produce any race because we're the original people. ❤ 😊

[@olugboyeopeyemi2428]

This is false asf Asians are another race that I've seen produce people that have any characteristics INCLUDING 4C HAIR.

[@troyposey356]

I was smiling the entire time. I thoroughly enjoyed.

[@Ookashay]

This was like the easiest ranking episode ever like you can literally tell just by looking at them and knowing a few basic questions about their heritage 😂

[@elcastrogarcia]

Correct

[@shaaylaaaa]

It would have been interesting to do in blindfolded like they did for the weight one.

[@BenHerbivore]

Exactly. Even white people can see it.

[@dantan1249]

Depending on what company they used the Eritrean girl may have came up as less black in previous years.

[@dominiquehudson8077]

@@dantan1249 the only way that would happen is if you use one of the smaller companies.

[@mauve9266]

Everyone’s reactions When he revealed he had 2 whole Caucasian great grandparents 😭

[@matthewbartke4424]

I find it interesting that he tried to hide that even though he knows what they were supposed to be doing.

[@electric336]

Yeah, I was so surprised too.

[@matthewbartke4424]

@nnnatalie He's probably ashamed.

[@88alexis]

I was shocked again at 67% results 🤯 he really like 2/3 black

[@electric336]

@@matthewbartke4424 I don't think so. The whole point of the game is to go off of perception and then reveal what's the reality at the end. People do this in the other episodes as well. In the weight episode for example, towards the end, one of the ladies asks if she can talk about the program she's doing, and then she reveals the stomach reduction surgery she's planning to have, which gives everyone a better idea of where she should be in line. So Jubilee probably tells them not to be too specific at the start. If the guy said he had two white great grandparents from the beginning, it would ruin the point of the game.

[@pearlbrusuelas7584]

This is so interesting because its posing the question of how can Blackness be defined, is it cultural or really just down to your Dna or a mix of both?

[@januarywaterchild7521]

This was very interesting. I recently did a DNA test and my results are 97.00% African. I was surprised because all I knew of family was that both sides came to the North from Georgia.

[@UsulPrincess]

Wow. 97% I'm impressed. It's hard finding a US black American over 90% (I'm 84%)

[@januarywaterchild7521]

@@UsulPrincess Hi. I was very surprised. I had always believed became of our history that I would have a higher percentage of European DNA. Even my mom was surprised.

[@MrSuperAntz]

Are you geechi there almost full Africans who been here since slavery

[@januarywaterchild7521]

@@MrSuperAntz Hello. I don’t know. What know is that my father and his siblings was born in Georgia and my mother’s family came from Georgia. They never spoke about knowing another language or history.

[@anacarl5035]

that’s a blessing fr

[@LesleyDeLaUz]

It’s insane how close they got to DNA ranking when the majority of their questions were cultural. I was honestly mindblown

[@tu3665]

not really i think they were basing it off facial features

[@awesome1ru]

It's weird

[@jomangeee9180]

I did not know you could be 99.8% anything

[@JadaKingdom971]

@@jomangeee9180 in Africa I'll put my hand to burn that the vast majority of the population is 99% black simply because there has not been that much mix other places around the world except maybe certain very specific Asian countries its a bit different

[@jomangeee9180]

@@JadaKingdom971 I am African too, and there has been a lot of mixing with colonial occupations over the past century. Not to mention mixing through trade especially costal Eastern Africa. Also don't forget the great civilizations of Western Africa that ruled all the way to Spain in the middle ages. These DNA classifications must have a political backdrop.

[@docta_myna8011]

One thing that always confused me is this: the criteria that black people use to determine how “black” *ANOTHER* black person is, will often consist of the same exact black stereotypes that we would normally call a non-black person racist for assuming about us. Idk if I worded that properly but it’s somewhere in my head😅

[@rawrbabez3]

like what?

[@aliyahsakeena]

yes thank you , i was thinking the same exact thing

[@mkrising8816]

I get what you're saying, as in some of us internalize the same stereotypes that we should know full well don't define us

[@moona5060]

yeah basically other people can’t stereotype us but we can stereotype ourselves, it’s weird

[@artsyarmy6794]

you worded it perfectly

[@tianag8513]

I really liked this episode. I wish I couldve been there honestly. I feel like as a person who is half black and half hispanic that I haven't ever been in an environment where I could talk to people who truly undersrand my experience as far as being mixed is. Like sure, I'm black, but Im also hispanic. It seems like depending on what environment I'm in, one half of my identity is being overlooked. Being from a small town that is mostly white, I don't typically use AAVE either. When they talk about code switching??? Soooo relatable. I'd love to have a conversation like this.

[@swatkins67]

This was one of the best dna test videos 👏🏾👏🏾

[@angelmushahf]

I know I keep posting a lot but I just love this episode because it addresses colorism. Please do this again with Native American, Hispanics/Latinos and Asian ppl!!

[@elcastrogarcia]

And how would you determine "Who's the most Hispanic/Latino??"

[@angelmushahf]

@@elcastrogarcia lol that’s what would make it interesting. I guess if they were all Mexican they could compare Spanish and Aztec percentages. If anything, it’d be interesting if they included Hispanics/Latinos in the “who’s the most White” episode. I’d like to see what they come up with

[@lynetteminute]

The latino one may not work since it’s a cultural identity. How can that be determined by a dna test when latinos have various ancestries?

[@anitnelav1533]

@@elcastrogarcia quien se ve más indígena, no es muy difícil, pero debería ser en español / lenguas indígenas, y se complicaría mucho. Lo "latinoamericano", según concepción social ya es Centroamérica y América del sur. Son muchos idiomas, muchas culturas. Sería muy difícil ya que son bastante diferentes a como se lleva la gente negra. Mi tatara aburla era, ya no una aborigen en su plena cultura, pero si descendiente de estos y hablante de su idioma, el güaraní. Ella crió a mi papá que es mestizo entre negro e indígena. Pero por parte materna está mi abuela; ella era blanca, pero su mamá (mi bisabuela) era una mujer de pueblos nativos paraguayos, con una cultura muy pegada. Bueno, es definitiva casi imposible hacer un quien es más *nativo americano*, pero la mayoría de los latinoamericanos podemos decir con certeza que tenemos esa sangre indígena, y claramente por nuestros rasgos y color se ve de igual manera . Es muy complicado. Donde vivo incluso actualmente se mezcla el güaraní con el español, aunque esa es cosa más de gente no blanca. Vivo en Argentina, un país "blanco", pero en una provincia triple frontera, hay más diversidad que en otros lugares. Aunque ni tanta, sigue siendo un país ya mayoritariamente blanco.

[@tamere520]

idk how they would do Asian as a whole tbh, there's just way too many different ethnic backgrounds. Separately would be better eg East Asian, West Asian, Central Asian etc

[@adorablegodzilla5628]

Several of these people wouldn't be considered "black" if they went to South Africa or the UK. It'd be interesting to do a show on blackness with an international group.

[@zeldawolff358]

The first three people would definitely be considered coloured, especially the woman with the white shirt. And even the woman with the dreadlocks might be considered coloured

[@saedm2359]

I heard that mixed race people are considered coloured in SA

[@Ok-oo2kh]

Indeed, they dont look black

[@zeldawolff358]

@@saedm2359 They are yeah. The coloured race/ethnic category is generally a mix of people who are mixed race, of Khoisan descent, or some other POC immigrants

[@GoldenBoyDims]

Yeah the mixed ones would be colored the Eritrean is East African so they’d just look at her like a foreigner or someone who is colored since she could pass for it the guys would be considered black

[@rbereee]

these people can be 80 percent european and 20 percent african and will still claim theyre black

[@fadeitluie9356]

20% is actually alot 😂😂😂 only goes up to 100%

[@ahkenaten522]

What are they?💀

[@AlbertoMg-vh9wc]

​@@ahkenaten522 mixed

[@ahkenaten522]

@@AlbertoMg-vh9wc with what?

[@AnimalAlmighty]

true. 😂😂 if you arent atleast 50% then you aint black.

[@wariocheats9701]

This was dope. They ALL seem so dope. Loved how they got along

[@faifantc6308]

20% and she’s Black? The 1 drop rule is alive and well. 😂

[@gasp1gasp1]

Her mother must be dark skin mixed

[@pricklypear6384]

20% is alot more than 1% I wouldn’t claim black if I was only 20% . I would like to see her full DNA results.

[@jzhvaeduh]

she's not black lmao. if youre 80% something else how tf are u black?

[@piaschmidt7357]

Im 25 % and I dont identify as black. lol that would make me transracial.

[@chroma._.5986]

@@jzhvaeduh yeah thats what the comment was saying

[@jaelynduncan7157]

He didn’t even say anything. The nod was the I told y’all so 😂😂😂. Also, I would be interested to know what test they took! I’ve thought about getting my DNA tested because my family has no idea how black we are. My mom is white, and my dad is black, but his great great grandmother may have been half-white based on pictures we’ve seen and family stories. Great episodes idea by jubilee. I like how they didn’t use insensitive or incorrect ways of picking who was the most black. I can’t tell you how many white people have claimed to be blacker than me based on how I talk and interact with people.

[@321tianna]

23andme is probably the most popular DNA test!

[@Kitty4u]

If you personaly take the test there is no way of knowing the results of other family members because you dont inherent 100% of both parents dna. If your dad was biracial and your mom was white you could be anywhere between 50% and 100% white.

[@jaelynduncan7157]

@@Kitty4u that’s the interesting part I should be 50% 50% based on the fact my dad is black but his great grandmother had green eyes, wavy hair, and very fair skin. The results would be interesting nonetheless.

[@hc7092]

White people think they’re soooo funny when they say “I’m more black than you” because they speak slang 😭 shut the f up. Your dna is 101% white

[@johnm.castillo3163]

I definitely recommend doing it, if not for ancestry than for seeing health and medical information i.e. if you are a carrier for a certain congenital disease that you could pass for offspring, and it would be cool to see where you come from too

[@LeslieFlemons]

I loved this episode as a proud black woman! And Josselyn was hilarious! Seriously love her! And the plastic bag thing was so relatable it was frightening!

[@Benhann.T]

Really loved this type of video, you can do with European, Asian, Mexican etc

[@vicepresidentmikepence889]

You couldn't do it with Mexican. Mexican isn't a race

[@Benhann.T]

@@vicepresidentmikepence889 yeah ur ryt, just was giving examples

[@angelmushahf]

I love Jonathon, I love everything he said in this discussion! I love his reaction to the results!

[@Ceerads]

Johnathon

[@eightrm]

it’s the way everyone knew josselyn was after johnathon and they still let her rock LMAO likeee we could tell

[@jackgardner2514]

I love the acknowledgement of the realities of code switching

[@lamj5171]

I had Josselyn and Wayne switched around but otherwise, I got it. Very interesting clip. It is hard to guess DNA based on phenotype. Skin tone, hair texture, eye color can give clues but they are not absolutes. I know persons who are very light with 88%African and a person with a darker tone than anyone on this video at 62% African (my cousin). It is very cool to see that we come in an array of colors. Jonathan was classy and very comfortable in his skin.

[@piaschmidt7357]

I think when discussing great grandparents being black they should really discuss the difference between those who identified as such and those who actually were. A lot of great grandparents were biracials (products of two mixed people getting together or straight up one black and one white parent getting together) but they identified as black.

[@MsDudette21]

People need to stop going off what they 'identify' and go off on facts. Culture has nothing to do with jow objectively black someone is. just ridiculous

[@kilimanjaro5537]

This!! I also think this isn’t something that should be kept from you if your grandparents were biracial but identified as black.

[@YoureRightIThink]

@@MsDudette21 and by how you look, basing on racial genetic heritage is kinda supremacist for me

[@channy6995]

Race is a social construct tho. Back in the days, those mixed ppl would be treated like they're black

[@Dollyspeaks211]

And when those same mixed people found themselves in white communities they would say they were Native American.

[@saadamahmoud8108]

I knew immediately that Serena was Eritrean or Ethiopian because I'm Somali and we kinda look alike. When you're black, people want you to be black black, like, have all the features and because I have lighter skin etc, I didn't really fit in with the very few black kids in my high school because they didn't consider me black which made me unsure about being black because what is "being black" in the first place? Some people think I'm black, others think I'm mixed, what I'm sure of, is that I'm 100% African and 100% Somali.

[@angelmushahf]

I think it’s because most Black/African ppl are dark skinned and light skin tends to be an indicator of mixed heritage. You might not be mixed but I’ve heard that ppl in Ethiopia and other parts of East Africa tend to have some Arab ancestry. I know that dark skinned ppl can be mixed too but I think generally darker skinned Africans are less mixed

[@cosydream9750]

Which is quite ironic because it's scientific that somalis possess their own ancient ethnic-gene (custhic) which has been around for more than thousands of years, since we originated from southern Ethiopia around 1000 b.c. the people who call us "mixed" have often more admixture in themselves lol.

[@cosydream9750]

@@angelmushahf those who have Arab admixture are the amhara's of Ethiopia, Ethiopia has a lot of tribes the oldest being the afar and ormos who just like somalis have custhic origins. Somalis tend to be dark skinned with sharp facial features and tall body proportions (similar to the afar tribe of Ethiopia) nothing like the arabs, while amhara's are short and mostly light skin with middle Eastern features. Unlike others East African tribes document A LOT of their heritage and history, if we did had Arab admixture we would be looking more like sudanese people or other north Africans.

[@flod104]

@@cosydream9750 more admixture no, recent admixture yes. The connection the horn of africa and north east africa has to the middle east is ANCIENT! There was no "africa" as we know today. In ancient times to horn africa middle eastern NEIGHBOURS were more their people than say west africans or south african tribes and it makes sense. Point is that Horn africans for the most part are a distinct group of people because of their ANCIENT connection and mix with middle eastern groups. Also i dont think you would have been considered "mixed" in ancient times because they would have had a different idea on "race" and who is or isnt the same race as them. People only consider you mixed today because we view and define race much much differently today.

[@pietrycranberry6621]

I felt she looked East African but I wasn't sure until she confirmed it.

[@drummerlovesbookworm9738]

This is super interesting on many levels, but the most interesting….being an ESL instructor, is that using proper grammar and pronunciation for English affects people’s perception of themselves and others. Second language learners work so hard to learn English in my classes and desire to speak textbook English.

[@celaya-s4e151]

I would LOVE to see a "how African are you" version of this! Like Africa the continent. I feel like a lot of ppl forget that we come in a lot of different shapes and colors! For example, North Africans keep getting called white by black ppl, and white ppl keep thinking Africa ONLY consists of black ppl. A DNA video with this would be so fun to see

[@lawtraf8008]

But most people in North Africa aren't actually North Africans. North African indigenous are a minority in North Africa today. Most North Africans have more Middle Eastern DNA than North African DNA which is not the case for the rest of the continent.

[@Noname-cu4dx]

Yeah if u look white we’re obviously going to say white, Wht do want us to call them plus majority in some of those countries descend from the Middle East so we’re not really wrong. Tht doesn’t take away the fact they’re African even thought some of them hate being called tht but tht doesn’t change the fact they’re genetically from the Middle East(white)

[@Noname-cu4dx]

@@soft-spun huh wht? East Africans are not less of Africans, the first human is said to be from east Africa so the nonsense East Africans are less African is an insult to our history. And also to the people who say East Africans specifically horn of Africans have white features, stop saying tht, they have our feature not the other way around.

[@celaya-s4e151]

@@Noname-cu4dx White = Caucasian. Not everything is about skincolour. Hair texture, nose shape, eyes etc all play a huge role in your race. Most asians are way more pale than North Africans, but you would still consider them POC? So why would y'all call us white? I'm still darker than every white person in my country. I have NOT gone through racism all my life just to be called "white" lol. I wish.

[@celaya-s4e151]

@@lawtraf8008 I totally get that! But even the middle east is a part of both Africa and Asia (it's spread, as u probably know). So we would still be POC, and not caucasian.

[@rosieusa]

I’m a lighter skinned black person with 3 black grandparents and 1 not black… and The whole time I was judging Wayne’s blackness off his skin tone, and thinking he was the most or second most black percentage wise, and he ended up being the exact same percentage as me 😂 67%

[@MariE-bz2eq]

I had him 4th and Joselyn 5th

[@jenniferyoung2215]

I laughed because I’m 29% black (biracial mom with a biracial grandma and one black grandfather) and Ciara is less black than I am but I look way whiter 🤣

[@vinemp]

(So, did you LEARN yo lesson? Having so learned to KNOW better, have you been DOING better?)

[@cinnamonstar808]

HONESTLY THERE IS NO BLACK DNA. many people in central America, Nepal, Australia and Europe are BLACK. =============> THEY USE "EUROPEAN DNA" TO determined whiteness. but whiteess is Central Asia. Swarty Europeans are the native. BLACK EUROPEANS CAME ON THE MAYFLOWER. this is why scientist keep saying the comerical DNA is just entertainment it not facts. >>>> testing the land were people are now, is NOT VALID >>> ------------ you cant test native gene, you cant even test who is native Tazmanian in Australia because the core sample is gone if humans had no legs and stay put: testing DNA by landmass will be valid.

[@lemnioaz3854]

On my father side i have a black grandpa and a biracial grandma and on my mother side i have a black grandma and a biracial grandpa. So is my percentage technically 67% as well?

[@peachylemon5613]

The entire cast was easygoing and I love their interactions. Josselyn was on a level of her own, she is a natural entertainer and a lot of fun to watch. 😂🤩

[@joydanleigh7711]

This was goofy loved it❤❤❤.

[@sadisticwinter8354]

This is the most "we support the One-Drop rule video" on the internet. Would y'all include half-Black people in a "Who's the most white" video?🤔🤔🤔

[@msdd7610]

they probably would

[@ac12304]

My thoughts exactly. The world needs to let go of the moronic one drop rule.

[@DD-rh2sz]

and would they all be like "no I am more white" like Josselyn was in this video trying to convince everyone she was black lol

[@angelmushahf]

They should!

[@lex5377]

It’s a who’s the most black video and why can’t they include biracial people? Isn’t the whole point to get a spectrum of people?

[@Jennifer-uh8th]

As a black african, watching this was truly weird and confusing...

[@filmi6873]

Can I ask why

[@timmyturner8724]

As a Caribbean as well

[@pietrycranberry6621]

@@timmyturner8724 Afro Caribbeans have the same history as U.S Blacks, you part of the race like the African brotha but not directly part of the U.S Black history.

[@mimiad397]

@@pietrycranberry6621 but not every Caribbean island identifies their people the same as Americans. In a lot of islands black and mixed people have their own separate identifies

[@pietrycranberry6621]

@@mimiad397 I wasn't referring to the mixed people but the African population.

[@aliasouttheway9578]

I love this honesty best episode

[@sexntuna]

Would love to see one more of these.

[@angelmushahf]

I was skeptical of the tall lighter skin guy. I have a feeling that his parents are biracial and just call themselves Black. I would consider him to be mixed, I mean 56%? He’s basically half Black.

[@deleteduser4238]

Totally get where you're coming from. I'm just thinking about it this way---with more than half of his DNA being Black, it's already the majority than whatever else he's mixed with.

[@sonrisaverdean757]

I’m 55% African but I look fully Black. Are you trying to say I’m biracial? Biracial means you have two parents of different races. He’s mixed not biracial cuz both of his parents are mixed Black people. There are many Black people who are mixed bc of slavery and colonialism.

[@sonrisaverdean757]

Btw both of my parents are Black/CapeVerdean/African who happen to be mixed bc of our history of slavery but are still both brown skinned but I’m 1% less African than him.

[@karmicobsession1636]

@@sonrisaverdean757 aren’t biracial and mixed two words that mean the same thing?

[@angelmushahf]

@@sonrisaverdean757 biracials can be darker skinned. I think ppl downplay their mixed heritage a lot. Or they completely ignore it. You probably have a lot of biracial/mixed heritage other than slavery.

[@khaleemaalkainaat8178]

All the ladies are so pretty!! Funny characters this episode. Josselyn was cracking me up the whole time 😂

[@MiracleGirl57]

Jonathan has a beautiful smile 😄

[@kiadavis6107]

if the Eritrean girl, Serena, wasn't part of the mix, I know for a fact Josselyn would've put herself in the number one spot lol. Although she was kind of looking at DNA and ancestry, she mostly just felt like the most culturally Black person there and gave herself credit based on that. Like, Johnathan was clearly more Black than her the whole time, and it felt like him being more meek and not using slang and stuff made her doubt him. On the other hand, Wayne straight up having white great grandparents and being more brown than Joselyn just goes to show you can't think skin tone is always the answer. Lastly, I get why they focused on lighter-skinned and multi/bi-racial Black people, but I wanted to see where DNA could be misleading for more dark skinned Black people too.

[@korkor40]

It would be fun to see this discussion for ‘who is the most white?’😅

[@olaoluwaakomolede2421]

The attempt to remain politically correct would make everyone quiet lol, kinda hate that about the world

[@A2Lettuce]

gotta have ppl crying in the comments before even watching the vid

[@korkor40]

@@A2Lettuce Who’s crying?👀

[@A2Lettuce]

@@korkor40 ‘who is the most white?’ if this video was posted

[@Mimi-jl5ci]

Lemme just head to the front of the line 🚶‍♀️

[@mcmaschio]

Crazy ideas and the production quality is amazingly inspiring for us creators … Thanks Jubilee 💯🔥

[@SK-gj3wb]

do you guys do stuff in europe? it would be interesting to take this wholesome concept across the pond.

[@grem56]

loool

[@AwesomeHila]

This was so interesting and enjoyable to watch !

[@angelmushahf]

Honestly, I think mixed people should have their own category. Doesn’t mean they can’t embrace their Black side, but I think they should be recognized as mixed on the census bureau and applications, stuff like that

[@AfamOrji]

In South Africa, they actually identify as a different racial group. They're called 'Colored'.

[@karmicobsession1636]

most african americans are mixed. no matter how much they try to deny it

[@angelmushahf]

@@AfamOrji yes I’ve heard of that. In Korea…either Korea or Japan they are called hafu. I think the U.S should do the same

[@karmicobsession1636]

@@angelmushahf it wouldn’t work the same cause most african americans arent entirely black. creating some arbitrary cut off wouldn’t work

[@angelmushahf]

@@karmicobsession1636 African Americans know that they have mixed ancestry because of slavery, but that’s different than two interracial consenting adults having a biracial child. Those 2 girls weren’t even half Black, but somehow White ppl won’t accept them as White. I think it would absolutely work if ppl used common sense and decided to be honest about their lineage

[@ilyforevr8602]

This whole group was so funny and cute please I love their reasoning and Jonathan and joselyn’s little arguments made it even better 😂

[@fuzelihlengcobo625]

One of the most interesting things I have found about being from a black family is how children both from the same mom and dad can fully look related whilst being alll different shades of brown lol.. Case in point... My own family / siblings

[@LoveLorena]

Brown sugar in spaghetti sounds like a great idea actually! It reminds me of Elf the Christmas movie when he puts maple syrup in the spaghetti.

[@lailayas]

I liked that they had an East African in here, most people deny our blackness because we have different features

[@spamemail5856]

fr and she ended up being almost full african

[@bahahabahaha4146]

yesss! im fully eritrean and ngl the comments got to me and this gave me the confirmation i needed,, especialy bc i dont see much eritrean rep

[@Amilli777]

@@soft-spun they are not mixed with nothing, if a somali or ethiopian sees this comment he/she will be upsettttt

[@rafaelmenna8384]

Blackness? People hate blackness here. As a matter of fact it’s an insult to call someone black and you know it. Don’t just don’t.

[@rawdogger805]

@@soft-spun Which ethnic group was having those genes? and how large was the study. You are spewing out information without understanding it. They are over a hundred different tribes in ethiopia and somalia alone. If you look into somali dna. There is more west african bantu dna than arab. With the majority being semitic somali. The same goes for most tribes in ethiopia. White people just dont understand the diversity in africa, and when they study them, just like with the iq tests. They come to wrong conclusions. Africa is the most diverse continent in the world genetically. And most tribes have been isolated from each other.

[@Alex-hj1vk]

Bro said you're black as long as you identify as black and you have plights. What is this video?😂😂

[@sadisticwinter8354]

fr😭

[@likedmyowncomment3547]

That was the white great grandparents speaking for him

[@ziennanoordpool6639]

FRRR

[@DefineMorena]

🤣🤣🤣

[@chroma._.5986]

@@likedmyowncomment3547 LMAO 💀

[@darwn977]

East Africa represent!

[@stephanieg700]

I never thought about "code-switching" in terms of culture. It's honestly eye opening!

[@tattoodrdoke]

I remember having a friend telling me was more black than me. I am darker skinners than her, she goes out to all black parties, is like a stereotypical dance hall queen. She called me on my blackness and said she was more west Indian than me.I asked her about Jamaican culture national dish, influential Jamaican and Western inventors pioneers the type of things about Jamaican your only gonns learn in school in Jamaica or have to go out and research. She couldn't answer I told her she was a meme and keep it moving. The minute someone goes out of their way to say they are blacker than you they have shown how insecure they are. Remember a white person who is born in a black neighbourhood or a black dominated country is still white. Their culture might say different.

[@lleeexx]

I am pretty disturbed by the ethnocentric views of the american black community. i get that it's culture, but they are borderline segregating themselves socially from other people. imagine if this video was about people of mostly european descent being as proud about it, imagine the fallback. i think there's a long way to actual equality in america, in all directions.

[@cozypm]

@@lleeexx well cause America has a long history of treating black Americans different. Other countries just shut it down or denies it. Its different in America. You said it seems like they are segregating themselves when segregation was a thing for more than 400 years

[@vincevvn]

I’m half white and Asian but most of my family is black. I grew up exclusively around black people

[@godofthisshit]

@うwう Speaking to lex is a waste of time. It write on a subject as if you're so sure, yet know jack, is just a person wasting people time.

[@earth2maleah704]

why does not being able to answer those questions equivalent to how west indian you are

[@inanotherlife9199]

josselyn was fighting for her life to stay in the top 2😭😭 I really enjoyed this episode i was smiling from ear to ear the whole time

[@muwawujonah6670]

WOOOOOW THIS WAS FUN TO WATCH, FELT LIKE A MOVIE...😂

[@iancaldeian]

Josselyn and Wayne were the two biggest surprises. I thought that Josselyn would have been less black but Wayne more. Josselyn's tom-boy confidence was refreshing. Whereas Bryanna's impression of herself was the most inaccurate, Wayne's complexion threw me for a loop.

[@splinteredkids]

Cool I loved this! Would love to see more content involving DNA tests. Super interesting

[@wellfuckit9936]

Same

[@cheesyfeetgeoguessr4651]

yes same!

[@molinli2148]

The difference between race as a social construct and genetic heritage and culture rlly confuses ppl sometimes 💀

[@mrinsanity6063]

Like honestly I would of just put people darker than me ahead or ask about backgrounds of whether your parents were mixed cause my grandfather from my mother's side was biracial so I know I wouldn't put myself ahead

[@arankin2914]

Anytime someone says social construct, i laugh.

[@whoreofdragonstone1031]

muh social construct

[@aperson3317]

My eyes immediately bugged out when she said "I don't use AAVE. not that that what's makes a Black person. You can be well spoken"

[@jordancelestine86]

Y’all need to do this again! R

[@user-hf1qz6ux1o]

as a black african woman this entire concept is so bizarre to me... what does being "black" even truly mean? black isn't a "race", and neither is white. they're social constructs. the concept of "race" in itself is so fuzzy and has more to do with social hierarchy than actual science or genetics. there are so many genetic and cultural differences that would separate people who are african, caribbean, black british, african american etc... yet if you put all these different kinds of people in one room they'll all be labeled as just "black" because of their skin tone, even though they are not the same. and one thing that annoys is me is that many times, "cultural" aspects that are supposed to define blackness are so american. i'm african, i'm "black", but i don't speak AAVE (because i'm not american! most of my relatives don't even speak english), i'm not into hip hop, and i haven't been through the experiences that most african americans or other "black" american people have lived through. i just don't understand what this is meant to prove...

[@buttons256]

Not to mention they’re basing this on who has the most African DNA, even tho not all of africa is black 😭

[@innitbruv-lascocomics9910]

THIS!!

[@TiredAmerican247]

It’s like saying an Irishman is the same and an Englishman because of their skin. When in fact they despise each other.

[@dahlylamma17]

It’s literally a social experiment….the channel is full of them. They are meant to be bizarre and push the boundaries. Blackness shouldn’t be measurable but in this society, it does. They’re just exploring that concept. I think that’s really it.

[@buttons256]

@@TiredAmerican247 no we don’t? 😂 I’ve lived in the UK my entire life and I’ve never met an English person who dislikes Irish people or vice versa 😭

[@jayawood1490]

jocelyn was so set on being second but she was third 😂

[@MsDudette21]

thats what happens when u think race a is personality trait

[@BenHerbivore]

@@MsDudette21 - Yepp. What a sad person. Truly.

[@davido9031]

I knew she wasn’t 2 🤣

[@Nooticus]

They got unbelievably close, thats pretty impressive!

[@benjaminbawa5273]

Awn, I hope she delivers safely when due.

[@dennyduane]

This is an American POV.

[@pavneet2214]

Yeah, I think this is ranking on being African American not black. Black culture imo doesn't exist because that culture is vastly different in each culture you look: Kenyan black culture will not be the same as British black culture. This was clearly an African American ranking, referencing AAVE and proposed African American cuisine. But, the "real answers" they gave afterwards doesn't make sense with the rest of the video: they should have used the same criteria for their own answers and the real answers whether that's DNA or culture. I also wonder if they were to do a European American version if they'd count someone with 20% white DNA and 80% other as white, like they did here with black DNA.

[@kennedy3682]

thank you for letting us know, sherlock..

[@MsDudette21]

the discussion between them was. the actual results arent cuz it's just based on objectivity.

[@devmmm8617]

@@pavneet2214 well black culture does exist as it’s the catch all phrase for black people in America. What you describe as “Kenyan black culture” I think most people (or maybe just Black Americans) would just call Kenyan culture. Black is more so a catch all because of the traceability of our heritages being erased. You could say it’s the same as African American culture but we don’t really call it that colloquially.

[@chollyestes]

Omg this is an AMERICAN channel! So obviously these experiments will cater towards African-Americans. If this was a South African or Nigerian channel, we would expect it to only cater to those ethnicities and no one would question it. But, since it’s centered around Americans, it’s such a problem and getting unnecessary hate. Smh. The makeup of the African-American DNA is very different from other black ethnicities/nationalities due to slavery. And most of us (unfairly and to no fault of our own) have no idea where we originate from. So, let them have fun. Stop it!

[@essbee1641]

If they’re using a blood quantum (DNA test) to determine blackness, doesn’t having biracial people in the mix defeat the purpose since you already know off the bat they won’t have as high amounts? 🤔

[@WolfHaley666]

it does but that's what happens when america still follows outdated racist rules aka the "one drop rule"

[@leonildojunior8965]

how to say you didn't had a bio class whithout actually saying it

[@jama3997]

Let me put this in a more understandable way. These people all identify as black or of black descent. The producers don’t already know their genetic makeup, so they give them a test so they can have a genetic reveal and show it to them to reveal info about their perceived ideals of what blackness is. The genetic results are a surprise to EVERYONE, including the producers. It doesn’t make sense to already weed out the least black ones bc one, it’s a scale of least to most, and two, because doing so would go against the point of the experiment.

[@angelmushahf]

I want an episode of middle ground, Black vs Mixed. And I want the following prompts: I consider myself to be Black Colorism has affected me I don’t fit in with Black ppl I think mixed ppl have privilege Mixed ppl and Blk ppl are not the same I think you should also do fair skin vs Dark skin

[@hayjessay]

This would be interesting. Another prompt: I feel excluded by the black community

[@alyssiamelange]

"Mixed ppl and Blk ppl are not the same ", except for the young lady ranked first, everyone else is mixed. Also, all Africans are not the same, you can have mixed African ancestry.

[@angelmushahf]

@@alyssiamelange no, half of them are Black. The last 3 are mixed

[@ahkenaten522]

@@angelmushahf💀3rd dude had two black parents and dude in the middle had white grandparents You're only saying he's mixed cause he's lightskin

[@angelmushahf]

@@ahkenaten522 no he’s mixed because he is mixed. There are light skinned Black ppl. He is not a light skinned black person. He looks like an ordinary mixed person

[@jimjimcherie]

The brown sugar in spaghetti I'm probs sure she meant in the sauce? That's a cooking thing, you put brown sugar in, what in my country call Tuco, which is like a ragout, a Bolognese or Neapolitan ragout (tomato sauce and ground meat with other stuff added to it).

[@mindofzena8447]

This is probably my favorite Jubilee video..they had me rollin!!

[@gboyflip]

These episodes are very intriguing also informative, a lot can be taken from the way they formed their decision making as we all tend to apply on on criteria to define what Black or Blackness is. Would love to see more of this.

[@journiewilliams8681]

it is never okay to treat someone different based on their skin color❤️‍🔥

[@mida7777]

This was fun to watch ❤️

[@bklynkat23]

So happy y'all didn't leave us hanging with the top 2!! I think Josselyn and Jonathan were focused more on coming across as being black according to stereotype and forgot that the ranking was based on DNA

[@angelacooper8973]

Josselyn was 75% black. And Johnathan was 89%.

[@For6bey]

Juiblee next video: "Who is the most racist? | Strangers rank themselves"

[@polaroidandroidjeff6383]

The liberals would be falling over themselves to be No 1

[@illuminati3561]

Guy in video "I'm a proud member of the Klan" what about you guys?

[@nightmarestar9192]

That would be epic 😂

[@compashinpei]

Then they should reverse the result though, because in California, the ones who claim are the least “racist” happen to be the most prejudiced people. 🥺🥵

[@durjam3734]

"then we will do a dna test and compare the results" 💀💀💀💀

[@groundedbutterfly8737]

That was fun to watch

[@Eclecticlly]

the brown sugar in spaghetti is a thing and it is FIRE. my mom does it and its the best spaghetti I have had in my life.

[@compashinpei]

Proud Black-Mexican-Japanese here!!! Just because you are racially not full black, it doesn’t mean you are less black!! 🙌🙌🙌

[@karankapoor2701]

Who tf ever cares that much about your racial makeup , Americans need to stop this obsession with race

[@jato2942]

Isn’t that exactly what it means?

[@mojjim2177]

@@jato2942 yes lol

[@RamboReviver]

It literally does.

[@A.R.DaVision]

Im be really with you. Idk your lineage but you have more asian/latin features so your not black. Being black is based on appearance and facial features.

[@Ahmed-pf3lg]

Sorry.. but Ciara is not “black”. She does not look black at all, and is only 20% black… lol

[@3m287]

It's because the racist one drop rule from Jim Crow times is still prevalent in American society, they believe if a person has only 1 drop of non white ancestry, they are non white

[@Ahmed-pf3lg]

@@3m287 yes she is non-white.. she is also non-black. LOL. It’s very obvious.

[@Ahmed-pf3lg]

@Mariah Fox I’d say at least 50% and looks “black-passing”… A lot of 50% black folks also dont look African enough in my opinion..

[@federalfreemoneylackofrese9937]

@@Ahmed-pf3lg No, it's 80% and that's barely. Between 50-75%, you are closer to biracial than black, so not black

[@Ahmed-pf3lg]

@@federalfreemoneylackofrese9937 Yeah i think i agree with ur comment

[@staroromia2597]

I love this video. This was hilarious lmaoooo Shout out to the Eritrean Queen! I'm also East African and people always claim we aren't full Black even though we are Indigineous to the continent!

[@clye7788]

THEYRE ALL SO ATTRACTIVE GOSH

[@emanuelebergamaschi9424]

This feels like an episode of Odd one out 😂 It’s like they’re trying to find out who is not black 😂

[@justahungryperson]

damn jubilee you've outdone yourself. istg these videos just keep getting better. also josselyn is my spirit animal.

[@yaadanii.y.a.]

Ooouuuu I shoulda been here for this episode 😭

[@nicholarichards4803]

I loved this episode

[@courtr1588]

1:49 AAVE has no impact on one's ability to be well spoken. It's simply a dialect. Most people who speak AAVE also speak Standard American English. 3:20 That's the issue with the one drop rule.

[@DD-rh2sz]

I agree it doesn't determine how well they can speak, but they have to understand in a professional setting you can't say "wussup bruh how you doing G" and expect to be taken seriously. I think we need to stop telling black people "you speak white" when they speak proper. Speaking properly can be for everyone

[@lex5377]

In regards to the one drop rule, genetics is not as cut and dry as people make it out to be. His parents could be genetically 80 percent African and appear phenotypically full black, but he simply inherited that 20 percent from each of his parents. So if both his parents appear full black then how could he be expected to know genetically he is biracial without taking a dna test? So that’s why I think identity should just come down to ethnicity. Ethnically, he’s black/African American since that’s the culture he grew up in and that’s what his parents clearly identify as.

[@courtr1588]

@@DD-rh2sz The only reason some dialects are taken more seriously than others is because of racism. I support using a standardized dialect in formal situations, but I do not agree that a standard dialect has qualities that are inherently better. You've used the phrasing "speak proper" which is funny because in Standard American English someone would be flamed for using that adjective instead of the adverb counterpart. What you wrote communicates your idea perfectly though, and someone would be a fool to take you less seriously because of that though. Anyway, statistically 80% of Black Americans who speak AAVE also speak Standard American English dialect so this is a nonissue for most of us.

[@courtr1588]

@@lex5377 Most Black Americans (ethnicity) can trace their lineage beyond their biological parents, and most people have a general understanding of what the enslaved Africans that were brought over here looked like, so it should not surprise a person with a certain phenotype that they are more likely to come from a more mixed lineage. That's not even taking into account that most Black Americans are mixed themselves due to consequences from slavery. Most are about a fifth to a quarter mixed with "*White." As far as the rest of your comment, it's hard to say identity should just come down to ethnicity when certain ethnic groups are tied to certain phenotypes. That can be a part of cultures as well. I think as long as colorism still exists worldwide, unfortunately people will be so focused on skin color etc.

[@lamarcantos3465]

@@courtr1588 I agree with everything you said. And I'm tired of people calling mainstream American English proper. No dialect is proper nor improper. Like you said it all stems from racism.