After the release of For All The Dogs and the discussion on the album as a whole, there has been a rising debate about Drake's music and its level of maturation. Socials linktr.ee/iuse...
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@rakeemkoroma239810 ай бұрын
all I can say is more and more I get why Drake and Kanye are compared against each other despite being different artists, cause both can be the biggest rappers in the world while still making music for a younger audience despite aging. Cause when you realise Kanye is 20 years into his career and teenagers are so into him, you realise the advantage an artist has when they stay tapped into the younger culture
@rakeemkoroma239810 ай бұрын
especially it’s very uncommon for a kanye type of artist to exist, cause he’s a rapper from 20 years ago still outselling majority of rappers. You can’t name another rapper in his position that is as relevant today
@xcx357210 ай бұрын
@@rakeemkoroma2398Michael Jackson was also one who seems very ageless his music was for the tourh
@rakeemkoroma239810 ай бұрын
@@xcx3572 same vibe frrr, and both artists always show their admiration for MJ too which is great to see, cause he exemplified childlike wonder the most
@Ranibella10 ай бұрын
I also feel he has an engaging personality and drama that follows him.. like them or not, both have a narrative away from music people are drawn to.
@Ranibella10 ай бұрын
I saw Drake in Toronto for both shows and felt I was an old ass with all youth surrounding me, knew lyrics for every. Single. Song. Both Kanye and Drake have similar storylines to their music, album to album.. but I’m still into them.
@lisag.405410 ай бұрын
I’m in my 30’s and I like the fact that he makes music for a younger crowd. It helps me feel like I’m keeping up 😂.
@David.Isaac.14710 ай бұрын
There's nothing wrong with making music for the younger crowd... The problem is that Drake isn't holding himself to any standard, he's just dropping project after project and most of the songs on them are mediocre at best
@jhixofficial763410 ай бұрын
He's the mcdonalds of rap. You know what to expect it's consistent but not in a good way you'll just listen to it to have background noise
@joaquinlewis355810 ай бұрын
This!!!
@devonharvey84148 ай бұрын
@@jhixofficial7634still pulling big numbers
@yuppppooooiiiuyyy10 ай бұрын
This is probably my favorite hip hop related KZbin channel rn. Keep it up man.
@iusedtobepay10 ай бұрын
Appreciate that
@rakeemkoroma239810 ай бұрын
drake is the type of artist our kids will look at in 20 years and wish they lived in the same time as him. the same way a song from the 90s like candy can still be played today is what will happen to Drake, feel good songs always age well, due to nostalgia, hence why we love the 90s a decade we deem as a great time to live in, but people during that decade probably didn’t think too much about a lot of artists or also thought music was falling off, whether it be white people being foreign to rap or old heads thinking rock was falling off, history will repeat
@JamesSmith-ov5um10 ай бұрын
I only think half of Drakes music will age well
@banshotenin117810 ай бұрын
💯
@rosuzzieagnes12410 ай бұрын
I think this whole drake thing is defo exaggerated because its drake... dude has been winning so long niggas cant handle it any more. Jay z made 4:44 when he was 47 let that sink in...He has time to evolve the dude is a 36 year old bachelor. He gets unfairly criticised in my opinion if he aint soft, he is guy, sassy, weak, emotional, pop star, cant rap, actor, fake thug lol. Lets enjoy him because there will not be another drake.
@rakeemkoroma239810 ай бұрын
facts, when Jay Z was drakes age he dropped Kingdom Come, an album that also wasn’t appreciated at its time of release
@Kidz2410 ай бұрын
I think younger crowd confuses hating with critique. For someone like myself who grew up and fell inlove with his music and identified heavily with the subject matters he talked about as I was a teen/early 20s in the beginning of his career he meant a lot to me. I was a superfan. But seeing where he is now and what he focused his music on and what we thought he would evolve to its a complete mind fuck to see a guy as introspective, self aware, and honest as Drake turn into a guy obsessed about how rich he is and how he's sleeping with a whole bunch of women at age 37, how tough he is, and also he can reach the level of self awareness and emotion that he had before is just very disappointing. Compared to other rappers i listened to who focused on mindless bullshit I thought he would age with us gracefully whilst not completely compromising what made him, him and just build his own musical world like what a Taylor Swift and The Weeknd were able to do over time. Like we understand money and fame changes you. But I and many others didn't think Drake trying to remain relevant and hip to the youth would overhaul his personality and music to fit in with a demographic 15-20 years younger than him. The music that he puts out now does not fit much of how we live as adults and that's okay. But us older fans are starting to realize that we might have to let him go musically because he doesnt represent us anymore. It's painful but that's where most of the shit is coming from.
@curtiszyr10 ай бұрын
lol get your own life buddy, your expectations for someone else is your own mistake you disappointed yourself lol . This generation is a generation of people who watch other people react to music before forming an opinion lol your opinion/critique aren’t genuinely valid it’s heavily influenced by music critics and reviewers. Your comment is just a regurgitation of popular opinion circulating in media. Musical world like taylor swift and weekend ? Lol it’s delusional to think drake hasn’t done that. Let him go ? 😂You want “mature” music lol go listen to black thought , jay electronica , nas etc
@Randomjackass13510 ай бұрын
Why can’t gen Z think? Y’all are always using like one of three words: hate, mid, facts, whatever. Dude millions of people have hated Drake SINCE he came out. You think him pretending to be a million different people is new? Dude has been a poser for 15 years and plenty of hip hop fans may have come to tolerate his presence, it doesn’t make them fans.
@blissfulinsomniac571110 ай бұрын
A 36 year old depressed bachelor who made a name for himself jacking other artists' styles, beats, and even whole rap verses. Why listen to Drake when you can listen to creative, original artists? Some people dislike him for a valid reason: he's a fraud.
@thedon051610 ай бұрын
Drake can do what he pleases but he should remember, his real fan base is between men & women from ages like 25 and up. Drake core fanbase is getting older and I think a lot of fans aren't messing with the new generation of rappers. Keeping up with the times makes sense from a business point of view but with that comes sacrifice and one of those sacrifices is quality
@dengmandang10 ай бұрын
The problem is also that Drake really hasn’t matured in 14years compared to someone like J.Cole who we can clearly and easily measure his maturity over the years.
@devonharvey84148 ай бұрын
That’s what the video is about, there is no problem, his strategy is working and keeping him very much relevant
@dengmandang8 ай бұрын
@@devonharvey8414 I just thought after 14years Drake was gonna turned into a Mogul. Similar to Jay Z or something. Marry someone that wasn’t a porn star. Having multiple artist on OVO consistently dropping platinum albums so he didn’t have to.
@devonharvey84148 ай бұрын
@@dengmandang yea that would be a good idea, but he wants number for himself
@RumbScroll1018 ай бұрын
@@dengmandanghe didnt marry anyone. And he still wants to make music so who cares.
@jscooby_81010 ай бұрын
we need that FATD review
@Randomjackass13510 ай бұрын
What makes me sad is that kids this young will never know what it’s like for artists to put passion into their music. Talking about numbers and art like they’re the same thing is legit depressing. Imagine how much you would love your favorite artist if they actually put effort in, if they actually cared about you, if they actually talked about the things that mattered to you. That’s what we had before the industry ate our culture and regurgitated this.
@IntelligentInsights87610 ай бұрын
Didn't know it was this deep
@SuperDuperVision10 ай бұрын
You’re one of my favorite newer content creators now. Got a supporter in me.
@iusedtobepay10 ай бұрын
Thank you bro🙏
@bigwormwilks230910 ай бұрын
It’s probably already in the works but you should do a vid on the drake vs mj thing and whether streaming matches up with physicals from back then
@iusedtobepay10 ай бұрын
That might make a fire video
@ldnvibereacts10 ай бұрын
Great conversation topic and thumbnail 🤝
@iusedtobepay10 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙌
@tenseipr20310 ай бұрын
I would def love to see your review on FATD, I personally liked it. Im 19 so i am young and i thought it was really cool to see drake on a rage beat with yachty
@TommyVXOLucia10 ай бұрын
*If you been listening to Drake since 2009, your in your LATE 20s or early 30s* ain't no way his day 1 fans are in their 20s still...if you are, your definitely in your late late 20s
@iusedtobepay10 ай бұрын
Aye I’ve been listening to drake since I was like 7 😭that’s why I said bare minimum you’re like 21
@fooni740010 ай бұрын
Im 24, been listening to drake since 08. Went back and listened to comeback season (released in 07) maybe a couple yrs ago. Lots of drake fans still young
@mompvti240810 ай бұрын
I'm 25, and I've been bumping bro's music since i was 11
@Solobreed9110 ай бұрын
Rap is not a young man’s sport , rap itself is young , in the next 50 yrs we’ll have people rapping at 65 i swear .
@iannamboga799510 ай бұрын
Very well balanced take thank you fan from uganda 🇺🇬
@slakoff00710 ай бұрын
Joe and friends aren’t the one buying out mans tickets. Tell saw what went down in nyc when Kai told his fans to pull up that same thing applies to if Kai supports drake all his fans gonna follow. Idk if anyone saw it but even lil Wayne said all the ogs don’t want to get with what the youth are into and that they should be.
@joeyjackson90310 ай бұрын
Hey pay, I got a show here in Phoenix october 29th at the monarch theatre 4-10 it’s going to be lit as hell you gotta come thru
@aghostnamedjimmy10 ай бұрын
I’m in my 30s, I’m a fan of several new artists and their sound, especially if it feels organic and authentic. But something doesn’t feel organic about Drake trying a “young” sound just for the sake of remaining relevant… especially knowing where he came from musically.
@TheInsaneBEAST110 ай бұрын
I think sonically Drake lost inspiration and puts out because he can. Not because of a particular reason. I also believe he feels a way that with all the social capital he's built, he doesn't have a partner that reflects that. Jay Z has Beyonce, ASAP has Rihanna, even Kanye had Kim Kardashian. There is no reason he'll make music that reflect his legacy when his end goal didn't go as planned. The rollout of Pusha T's song and outing him as a father squashed that moment for him. J Cole got to reveal he was married in his music and even had us fooled on his kids gender. Drake can make a comeback with Joe Buddens audience but time is ticking and they'll desert him if he gives them nothing.
@christinathein9512 ай бұрын
You made a few, very good, not often discussed points. Drake sonically lost inspiration and puts out music because he can, with he can being more like he knows he can continue to make huge profits by churning out soulless, uninspired music that simply follows his formulated, “established”, and still very popular sonic style… The legacy comment, I am here after the beef and I am blown away by the insight and that this aspect was completely overlooked by every single person I saw discuss/break down the beef. You are sooooo right here, his legacy, isn’t/wasn’t when you wrote this, isn’t in the place it should be considering his time in the game, his age, the immense popularity of his songs, he should have by now earned a more highly regarded position/legacy within hip hop but has severely fell short for numerous reasons. On a side note to the legacy thing pertaining to having an enstablished partner. Drake talking about how he had a chain made out of the 24 engagement rings he had purchased, presumably for 24 different women, clearly indicates Drake struggles with interpersonal skills and relationships in general which has definitely been a hinder his “legacy”
@drugstocope10 ай бұрын
Please rate the album like you did Utopia!
@ogfire610 ай бұрын
He can make music to whoever he wants. Anyone can make music to whoever or whatever they want.
@Ace_4k10 ай бұрын
He should make balanced projects that have something to offer the widest audience of listeners.
@mompvti240810 ай бұрын
He's doing that already, and his music caters to almost everyone which is one of the main reasons for the divide between his fans; young and older
@bigchune630610 ай бұрын
he was an actor first idk why yall surprised
@rosuzzieagnes12410 ай бұрын
Was pac not an actor also
@kiko621710 ай бұрын
My “issue” with Drake is the fact that he could easily and I mean EASILY could pull it off. Like this is the same man that dropped “If you’re reading this” and “Dark Lane Demo Tapes” and called them mixtapes. Dropped “More Life” and called it a playlist and everyone went along with it. Drake could drop a 10-12 track, 30-45 min bar fest of an album, call it a “mixtape” and an “ appetizer” for the next album. Wait 8 months a drop a “typical Drake album” and BOOM he gets his pop rap bag and shuts up the old heads.
@briabridges889510 ай бұрын
We want the review!!! Pls!
@drugstocope10 ай бұрын
Yessssssssssssssss!
@jcabre283410 ай бұрын
We want that FATD review
@triplezeroxz587510 ай бұрын
I'm just gonna answer the thumbnail He literally has the ability to make music for everybody. And has been doing it for years. But lately, it feels like he is only making music for women and children. And his music hasn't matured with him. The irony is those 2 aren't mutually exclusive. He can make music that's more authentic to him, put effort into his rhymes/rapping, and still appeal to women/ a younger audience. Look at J. Cole.
@Thomzz9510 ай бұрын
I’ve been listening to drake since I was in high school I’m 29 now. When drake was getting popular around 2010-2011 he was the hottest new rapper out and was for the young crowd back then. Personally I wish he would make more serious music for us day 1 fans and not selling out for the young crowd of today. Everybody wants the old drake back when he actually cared about spitting real bars.
@televszn10 ай бұрын
you know October is all about HIM
@Parkour_dog10 ай бұрын
If your sole focus is market dominance, you’re not making art, you’re making a product. Drake flexed his numbers on joe budden because that’s all he has and he got so offended because he knows his music is soulless and has no identity.
@benoplasm10 ай бұрын
He shud make songs for people who throw bras and panties on stage
@iusedtobepay10 ай бұрын
😭😭
@televszn10 ай бұрын
GOD curates the culture, not the youth, not the streets
@kuhyugaa10 ай бұрын
Our humanity is young
@frankalmanzar349210 ай бұрын
Older people buy music though.
@0A1ywusjsjs0a110 ай бұрын
No they don't
@frankalmanzar349210 ай бұрын
@@0A1ywusjsjs0a1 Yeah older people pay for music streaming services. I can’t really see teenagers paying for music.
@0A1ywusjsjs0a110 ай бұрын
@@frankalmanzar3492 I feel like old ppl don't listen to music all that much. Not like teenagers and ppl in their 20s.
@veliciarogers734710 ай бұрын
I’m older like 50’s and I definitely love Drake
@MozzieMutant10 ай бұрын
Young people stream all day but don’t go to shows. Look at people like lil baby cancelling shows
@taebranch330610 ай бұрын
Song by song review sir
@TrvisXXIII10 ай бұрын
I never thought that this topic would cover so much ground. I honestly thought it would’ve just stayed in the Joe budden universe amongst his listeners, but literally everyone is talking about this
@Dipset41510 ай бұрын
Drake should keep doing what he’s been doing 🤷🏿♂️some rap some pop some shower singing some dance music. That’s what made him who he is💪🏿
@AllBetzOff10 ай бұрын
For himself. That’s what music should be about. Especially when you are almost a decade away from half of your life
@JamesSmith-ov5um10 ай бұрын
Great video, but the end is where I disagree. Cole and Kendrick’s music have been mature for almost a decade now and still puts up numbers. I think Drake will be an artist that had the accolades but now substance. I can’t I’m good faith put him with the Michael’s, Kanye’s, Stevie’s and Bob Marleys
@bwill126810 ай бұрын
I’m 21 and I agree Drake just not hitting like his old music. I want to see growth, and I feel like his last couple albums been trash. I don’t wanna hear him talk about dating 25 yr olds and getting burnt
@XxOrangesoda2610xX10 ай бұрын
Getting bored of hearing drake cry about girls half his age over the same generic beats for the last 4 albums. I’m 24 and I feel too old for this bullshit uninspired borderline creepy ass music and I love Drake’s older music
@arseeoliveira693410 ай бұрын
I'm 24 too, and I couldn't agree more😂😂😂Like, I gave up on him after CLB cuz it was clear that would stick to that formula
@Evergladez10 ай бұрын
Egh no rapper comes close to drake as far as sells remember 9 months in before hip hop got a number 1 this year so he could mature his music and still hold the number 1 spot. The issue is he isn’t mature irl very telling that every girl he dated moved on from him and has a family now.
@Iraqi-Canadian8 ай бұрын
As a 17 year old, all these gimmicks that Drake's doing rn in his career makes me cringe. Like having sexy red on the album, always talking about BBLs, and getting his nails painted. It feels disingenuous and immature. This is coming from a self proclaimed Drake fan.
@7ntlston10 ай бұрын
Himself
@Blacklightning20110 ай бұрын
W video 🔥
@DaBlappz10 ай бұрын
DRAKE SHOULD MAKE MUSIC FOR DRAKE!!
@arseeoliveira693410 ай бұрын
I'd be here for it. Rap and singing about stuff from his heart and mind
@Elemphantom10 ай бұрын
Drake doesn't need to do this thats the problem.
@mpendulombhele503610 ай бұрын
DRAKE get soooooo much hate & love St the same time😢
@chromecartel10 ай бұрын
Bobbi is a industry plant
@basedcommentor10 ай бұрын
Nobody. He should retire.
@Zenshirokojima10 ай бұрын
Drake makes music for dorks.
@IntelligentInsights87610 ай бұрын
Okay 🤷
@uunnoov10 ай бұрын
His music seems disingenuous
@Noahwillwalk10 ай бұрын
Drake should make music for public libraries and just be quiet in my opinion. It's an opinion I like, too.
@vseverybodyk321010 ай бұрын
i dont see why it matters to people so much lol let drake be drake