Nobody was left behind. What are you talking about. Everyone that wanted to get out and needed to get out left.
@RoachShow3 жыл бұрын
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@vinnycriss89073 жыл бұрын
So your position is we never should have gone in? No response? I don’t completely follow this video. To use your words “for the younger viewers that don’t remember 9/11” know this: the attacks on our interest ended with 9/11, but they had been building and escalating for a decade prior. World Trade Center 1993. US Embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998, USS Cole in 2000. Hundreds killed because they were Americans. No other reason. Since we went into Afghanistan? Crickets. Not saying attempts were not made, but we had intelligence in the region that enabled us to prevent them from happening. You don’t think we would have experienced more domestic attacks if we didn’t establish a base in the region? I know this. 20 years. No domestic terrorist attacks. I know this too: There’s a generation of kids in Afghanistan that never knew Sharyia law. (Read up on that kids if you get a second.) while we were there, Women went to school. Women could work. Women didn’t have to cover their faces. That’s about to change. You can argue about whether or not we should have ever gone in (I have made my case above) but the fact is we DID go in, and the good ole USA just screwed the people that were risking their lives to help us. You get bits and pieces of it already if you watch non partisan news like CNN or Fox, but I despair for those people. It’s only going to get worse. We have large military presences in Germany since 1945, Japan since 1945, South Korea since 1951. There’s a reason for that. A good one. I don’t hear anyone clamoring to pull our troops off the 38th parallel. Why is that? The answer in Afghanistan was to never exit. Leave a presence there. You don’t spend countless treasure and precious lives to achieve a goal and then throw it away to check a box on your political to do list. I blame Trump as well for even negotiating an exit. Maybe I’m wrong. Time will tell, but there’s a reason two liberal Presidents and two conservative presidents stayed engaged in that conflict for 20 years. They have and have had intel that the rest of us will never be privy to. We are left to debate the results and pretend we know what we’re talking about on social media. Also one thing I do agree with is we never should have gone into Iraq. That was posturing. We should have hit Afghanistan only and relentlessly.
@RoachShow3 жыл бұрын
I think you make a lot of excellent points. And there had been many attacks on Americans prior to 9/11 around the world. No doubt about it. But if you look deep enough why they made those attacks, it’s our intervention and inconsistencies of who we support and who we don’t support. And that often changes from decade to decade. We’re always told they hate our freedom and our way of life. That’s simply not true. If they hated that, you could easily bomb Dubai or the emirates and save the cross country trip. We are often disliked because of our empire mentality. We have over 600 bases around the world. What if China or Russia was building bases like that? What if china decided to build a base in the Bahamas? We would lose our minds. We don’t ever think that way. We just consider we are right and we have the ability to take over our country and set up another base. I do agree with you I think our goal was to set up a permanent base there in Afghanistan. We want to be able to fly planes in an out of that region. Where I have a problem is that when we went into that war, there was no long range plan. And every calculation, or almost every calculation was incorrect. And the amount of lives lost and money spent is a disgrace. There’s something you did not talk about much and most people don’t. The country is bankrupt. We do not have a dime to our name. We have to print money, borrow it or just pretend we have it. It’s unsustainable. This will not go on forever just spending money on the military and setting up bases around the world. If there is evil in the world, then we will have to find another way to address that problem.