Who Was Buried in the Royal Tombs of Ur?

One of the mysteries surrounding the Royal Cemetery of Ur is the identity of the occupants of the tombs, the sequence of their reigns, and their relationships with each other. Dr. Miano provides an overview of the issues involved.
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[@Divig]

Scholars are uncertain which grave belongs to which king/queen. Meanwhile I am amazed that we can hesitantly say "this 4500 year old grave probably belonged to one of these two named persons".

[@starcapture3040]

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[@toucheturtle3840]

So do I. He annoys me. He touts the narrative as given, yet we are discovering new things all the time…

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​@@toucheturtle3840DM keeps up with changes in the state of the art in the fields he is covering. The narrative you refer to is blistery channel 'day don't want you to no dis' malarkey.

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@@toucheturtle3840 I was annoyed by adults when I was still a child, too.

[@toucheturtle3840]

@@notmyproblem88 We never stop learning. Alternative viewpoints are often smacked down by those whom have been classically trained, only later to be proven otherwise. It’s how scientific method should work.

[@MihaiRoshu]

Thank you! One of the best ancient history channel on KZbin.

[@geisteswissenschaft]

I appreciate the new, refined camera setting.

[@chrisl4999]

Just needs to clean the camera so that smudge on the bottom right isn’t there anymore.. ;)

[@geisteswissenschaft]

@@chrisl4999 🤣true, but I wanted to recognize the effort.

[@chrisl4999]

@@geisteswissenschaft oh absolutely. The quality has gone up tremendously.

[@kacperwoch4368]

Fascinating stuff. One of my favourite kind of archeological mysteries, one where we have a lot of clues, dates and names and the answers seem to be just within reach. I can totally understant the appeal of having to work with some of the earliest written records. Can't wait for more videos like this.

[@jdmec81]

I visited Ur when stationed at Tallil Air Base in 2006. I climbed the zigurat and was able to climb down into some of the tombs. It sparked my interest in ancient history, I’ll never forget it.

[@cattymajiv]

Nice for you, for sure, but not a good idea really. I hope that wasn't allowed much, and has been stopped altogether now.

[@jdmec81]

@@cattymajiv We had local Iraqi tour guides and certain areas were restricted or roped off. I don’t think it was done irresponsibly. Even during a war the site was treated with respect.

[@jackholman5008]

Was there any looting?

[@jdmec81]

@@jackholman5008 I can’t speak to what happened during the first few years of the war, but there was no looting or destruction while I was there. It just seemed like what I’ve seen in videos of a tourist site in Egypt or something. The zigurat, excavated tombs, walls from the old buildings that had been partially rebuilt, etc. The area wasn’t inside the gates of the main base, but in an exterior area controlled by the military. It didn’t look like there was any active archeology taking place, just trusted locals who managed it and gave tours that we paid for.

[@varyolla435]

I recall once upon a time traveling through that neighborhood of Tallil - but we did not hang around too long as we were "passing through" as it were...... 😋 Glad you were okay. p.s. - that area of Iraq is Shia tribal land in the south. The looting as alluded to took place in areas under ISIS control which were the Sunni tribal areas as well as some of the Kurdish zone in the north.

[@shable1436]

The thing that gets me is the tombs death pits have so many retainers in them, it's very bizarre to see a Jones town type sacrifices. They drank potion with their own cups, from a cauldron found. The amount of females to males was 60 of them and around 6 males tells you it was his harem he wanted to take with him.

[@seanh0123]

I lost my retainer when I was 13 and my dad whooped me something fierce

[@ahmedsalim571]

@@seanh0123 they’re expensive, I would’ve whooped your ass too

[@kariannecrysler640]

I enjoy learning more about what we don’t know about the site. Thought provoking. Thank you.

[@cattymajiv]

Thanks so much Dr Miano! This is one of my top 3 or 4 topics (among which I can't choose a favorite). Please give us more and longer videos on Sumer. I realize that so little is known of it, in comparison to later civilizations, but it's a topic that many of us never tire of. ❤❤❤

[@hannahbrown2728]

If its one of your favorites you probably already know Artifactually Speaking, but just in case you dont then youd love it. Dr. Hafford is a part of that iranian-american archaeology team and headed a dig at Ur for at least one season.

[@stripeytawney822]

​@@hannahbrown2728 well I didnt.... Thanks for the lead!

[@ToyoBali-yn5gn]

History with CY is the other one in my tip 3

[@stripeytawney822]

@@ToyoBali-yn5gn I like that - 'tip three'! Giving a tip on top sites and coining a phrase..... I am going to check both it and artifactually speaking out now.

[@stripeytawney822]

@@hannahbrown2728 thanks for the tip. I have broad (pre)history interests. Have you tried Stephan Milo or David Howe?

[@HellaJ77]

I would give up a lot in my life to fulfill my lifelong dreams of visiting these places. Wow! To anyone who gets to travel with you; I’m impressed and crazy jealous.

[@edgarsnake2857]

Love getting the background on Ur and the vicinity--the stuff of legends and now, with this video, some more facts. Thanks, Doc.

[@topicsandopinions5818]

Old is gold!!😊😊

[@who-ny5oe]

Except Natzi Germany.

[@kaarlimakela3413]

Wow, crazy wonderful tour. If you can do it, go, somebody! Wish I could still walk well enough for it. Enjoy it for me! 😊

[@Faelani38]

I do love talking about ancient civilizations. I really enjoyed your vid. It is very educational for me.

[@peterquant1883]

Interesting! Fun to hear the story of these finds. Thanks for the effort.

[@emm_arr]

I had the great good fortune of picking up a copy of Wooley and Moorey's book _Ur 'of the Chaldees'_ secondhand - and cheap. A great read, and thank you, professor, for another great video.

[@nanceeM1313]

Thanks Dr. Miano ~ appreciate every nugget of information. Happy safe travels to you & companions. 💚🌷💚

[@ziggyzee9646]

You never dissapoint! I love your work and its helped me get through a ton of topics for college, so thank you!

[@decsivehistory]

This was great!

[@romulus62moondust]

The information shared and the perspective delivered is prime stimulation for the brain

[@_drawkward_]

I have been hoping you would touch on Ur. I always look forward to videos like these. Your channel is so refreshing. Thank you.

[@aonjmj]

Love me some Sumerian history.

[@meticulvitriol3856]

Can you look into Gilgamesh possibly being found? Great video of UR wish we can figure out new thinks about that first supposed city

[@carriekelly4186]

Thank you so much to cover this topic as it is one that ive often wondered about mysrelf. I didnt think I would see this discrepancy covered . Very well done .

[@therongjr]

I'm more familiar with the Lagash, so although I recognized the name of Mesannepada I was especially excited when you mentioned Eannatum! 🤩

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oh, camera looking super good today. Well, you look great today, the camera is tuned well, lol.

[@cattymajiv]

Yes. Very well. He does look great. 😉

[@daviddupoise6443]

I so appreciate your work and also your presentation style. Many thanks to you and all the crew. I am thankful of your "exhumation of bodies" of research ;)

[@leifalire5219]

Such a great presentation about this information

[@thylacinenv]

Excellent presentation as always.....Leonard Woolley's wife Katharine is a fascinating figure who contributed in the excavations at Ur, she was also I fancy a rather dangerous lady to be married to.

[@SacredDreamer]

Wow,, id love to go on a tour with you Sir,, Your recounting of sites is very informative

[@SMF314]

Thanks!

[@mccallosone4903]

good video thanks

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Been a massive fan/viewer of this channel(legit haven't missed a single episode) since a few months back, when my friend decided to use MY gd account to comment, bitching about your why files video (making me look like a complete idiot) to which you responded, basically saying such. He may have made me look like a complete and utter ignorant a hole, but I never would have discovered this channel if it wasn't for that. Worth it. Seriously though, this channel is freaking awesome.

[@Investigator86]

Thank you

[@jjw56]

Oh oh, looks like the camera operator discovered a soft filter. Good look, you’ll never grow old. LOL Really Nice piece, as usual.

[@cattymajiv]

And much more 3 dimensional.

[@martinschluter1090]

great video

[@TT3TT3]

Thanks!🎉

[@The.BansheeRose]

Mr Miano, thank you for another fantastic video. Do you, or anyone else, know if anyone is planning on extracting DNA from the human remains in Royal Tombs, especially PG 800? It would be interesting to learn their genetic ancestry and it would go along way in dispelling the woo surrounding her.

[@studioMYTH]

Badass video!

[@Sevenigma777]

I always thought that the human sacrifice during burials were more so the fact these people were the possessions of the royal being buried just like his favorite chair or jewelry and if the tradition is you get to be buried with everything you own well then if you own some soldiers, workers or attendants they get buried to with their owner unless somehow it was specified by the Royal that their services have ended but if he royal had a surprise or sudden death then there wouldn't have been time for him to release anyone.

[@cattymajiv]

Yes.

[@mr2wo]

Dr Miano. Have you ever reached out to lesser known channels than the JRE to have a debate with some LAHT folks. Channels such as Danny Jones or Julian Dorey's podcasts. They still have significant views and both host these alternate views regularly. I for one would love to see this happen. Love your work.

[@sergemck]

Any discussion of Ancient Sumer should have included the prevailing climate of the era, which was vastly different to the desert, arid conditions of today.

[@Hueztones]

Remind everyone to hit the like button

[@scottnunnemaker5209]

Do we have any other tombs from other Sumerian/akkadian cities besides Ur to compare the burial practices to?

[@no-secret-chart]

I am delighted that you will be doing more Egypt content. I am curious how you avoid what I have 'heard' is horrible behavior towards tourists in Egypt. I have wanted to go, but my husband keeps saying no to Egypt... partly because of the cost but also because of bad posts about it. He did go with me to the Roman sites in Trier last weekend, so I will keep him. 😉 Will you be doing more group trips? Maybe Greece or Rome? 🤞 Also, didn't you say you would be announcing a possible upcoming marriage? I hope I haven't missed it.

[@WorldofAntiquity]

I have been to Egypt before, and as long as you have a good guide, they will keep you from being harassed by vendors. Future trips will depend on how successful this one is. Re: marriage, it is still on! But it has been delayed slightly until we can afford it.

[@no-secret-chart]

Good to hear on all accounts! Yes, I have been following you for a while and noticed that the last time you went to Egypt, you didn't have any trouble with being harassed, so wondered why that was. Looking foward to your upcoming marriage announcement. 😊

[@andrewjones9886]

According to family history we have ancestor buried at that site. His name was Bubba Anunit. He was a royal cess pit manager. According to an ancient tablet he was voted cess pit manager of the year in 2620 AND 2619 BCE. Still to this day the family is very proud of his accomplishments. No one in the family has reached such a great job accomplishment since.

[@brettmuir5679]

I am so glad that I found your channel. You offer rationality counter to the insanity that runs amok with wild theories concerning this region. Ur is symbolic to most learned minds. How about a delve into Urkesh? Have you learned anything about the findings at Tel Mozan? Tel Mozan is near the Huraan where Abraham is said to have migrated to after he fled Ur. Is not the fertile crescent so fertile for thought? I love your work. Thank you....(remember the name Tel Mozan. it is obscure but aught not be. It is not far from the plateau of Anatolia, near to Qamishli on the Syrian border...it sits abruptly on the Mesopotamian flat land) Remember, it is said that Abraham fled Ur because his father wanted to sacrifice him...and in turn "God said, take Isaac, thy son, and slay him in on Mnt. Moria in my name" Irony is fun too

[@irenedebruyn2796]

Thanks

[@WorldofAntiquity]

And many thanks to you!

[@TheMoneypresident]

General Grant?

[@J_Z913]

I'd love to see a collaboration with Digital Hammurabi. You, Esoterica, Dan McClellan, & Angela Puca are my Mt. Rushmore of KZbin academics!

[@fevergaming1]

I love Dr Sledge

[@catman8965]

Who's buried in the royal tombs of Ur? Uberities 🚗😲 GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR TOUR.

[@Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer]

I think you mean tUr. 😅

[@catman8965]

@@Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer Or maybe "U", "R".🤗

[@kasturipillay6626]

Wow, Maybe other cultures copied the burial, and human sacrificial rituals from Mesopotamians. Learned some new stuff from this video . Thanks Dr Miano. 👍❤

[@refoliation]

FYI I think you got some debris on your camera lens in the viewer’s lower right (your left as you look at it). If you edit these yourself you probably noticed, but just in case. Thanks for the great videos 👍

[@Max_Griswald]

Would love to go to southern Egypt with you, sadly I don't think I have enough vacation time saved up!

[@clydecessna737]

I find the sacrifice of the servants very upsetting.

[@user-yd2lg7oe7y]

What a shame, we lost so many artifacts when the museum were raided

[@AveragePicker]

The Queen of Ur and the King of Um

[@TheCosmicGuy0111]

Woah

[@vondahartsock-oneil3343]

Well, I'm going to think twice from now on, when someone asks me "If you could be anyone in history, who would you be" or any variation of that ....I do not want to be a servant in any way lol. I never knew this. WOW. Thanks!

[@bsjeffrey]

grant.

[@comentedonakeyboard]

The olden days when rulers had literal skeletons in the basement

[@Graystaff]

For all you getting over your eclipse withdrawal, just know that the Eclipse 2027 happens in the beginning of August and goes over Egypt. You know, where there’s no cloud cover? That place. Not on the Giza plateau but further south near Aswan and the Gulf of Suez. All I’m saying here is it’s going to be PACKED. Book your trip now.

[@carlosdiaz2688]

These dudes could have given The Egyptians a run for their money … Beautiful Art

[@andyw2132]

Alternative clickbate title: What was buried in the royal tombs of Ur? It's not what Ur thinking! - Thumbnail picture of a gray alien riding a reptilian on one side with Dr. Miano having a surprised look on the other.

[@shable1436]

This isn't the why files

[@brettmuir5679]

Now isn't that hilarious?

[@TheHappinessOfThePursuit]

Yeah no. This is not an AI clickbait video.

[@GizzyDillespee]

People would be confused: "I was expecting an AI to read a generic AI script about ancient burials in general, over an unrelated slideshow... I... didn't expect to learn what was actually buried in the royal tombs of Ur. I don't know what to do, now."

[@Graystaff]

Ah, the “Wha’appen?” pose that’s so popular here on KZbin.

[@wallaroo1295]

Always a good video. Sir, Recently my YT AlGore has been sending me vids from "Expedition Bible" - I grew up in a Pentecostal cult, so... I dunno... I have mixed feelings about the Expedition Bible videos. I would appreciate your commentary regarding their videos. Thank you, ~Wallaroo

[@dnocturn84]

So all of these tombs from roughly one time period. Where are the others? So there have to be more undiscovered ones hidden somewhere, right?

[@Carlton-B]

Wooley didn't have DNA testing or isotope analysis. If the bodies are still coherently stored away, a lot of uncertainty could be cleared up. Extensive analysis of all bodies would reveal many relationships. If the bodies still exist in a coherent order. Never mind the gold, there could be a real treasure trove waiting to be discovered.

[@erlinggaratun6726]

the names from before messanapada that you list after 19 minutes appx sound gutian to me? Is this possible?

[@TheVinceLyons]

It’s so crazy to think how much bigger the Persian gulf used to be. How those were basically coastal towns. Really changes the way I’ve envisioned the history of the area. More maritime history in the area than I thought. Have you ever heard the theory that at one point there was no Persian gulf but rather a freshwater lake that was inundated when sea levels rose? If that’s true, do you think that makes it a candidate for the origins of the flood stories?

[@varyolla435]

Not the Gulf being bigger = the river deltas have shifted. You see the same coincidentally with other major rivers such that over the centuries as silt was deposited once areas near the coastline find themselves more inland today.

[@TheVinceLyons]

Oh ok, gotcha. Thx

[@myboloneyhasafirstname6764]

Does anyone else think hairy Enki, (best friend of Gilgamesh), is/was a Sasquatch? Is it just me?

[@philbarker7477]

Have they found any communication with the early Egyptian dynasties? You state we know they traded with Egypt.Just wondered if there was any further evidence? ( same goes for the Harappa culture). Thx.

[@varyolla435]

There are predynastic Egyptian limestone scroll cylinder seals which mimic ones found in early Sumer. So artifacts like this which seem to show the Egyptians copied some everyday items used by the early Sumerians would indicate some level of interaction occurring. Now whether that was written down somewhere is another matter.

[@EuroWarsOrg]

Whatever happened to the DNA test of the Ishtar mummy?

[@theworldthroughtheeyesof]

At minute 16:56, you have quoted 171 years for the four kings of Ur reigns; while the some of the four kings is 177 years. You may check it and also according to my copy of that same manuscript it also is translated as 177 years and the sum equals so.

[@WorldofAntiquity]

That’s why I said they miscounted.

[@theworldthroughtheeyesof]

@@WorldofAntiquity Sorry, I missed that and on my copy of the translation, no mention was made. May I have a link or some reference to that source? Thank you.

[@WorldofAntiquity]

​@@theworldthroughtheeyesof Here is a translation. It shows the readings in various manuscripts. etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/section2/tr211.htm I think yours may have been corrected by someone.

[@theworldthroughtheeyesof]

@@WorldofAntiquity Thank you so much. Yes both my copies, one from the university of Toronto and the other from an archeologists database based in Germany, must have correct the error before publication.

[@roykay4709]

When you use the word King, does that reference the word Lugal? Also, was there a separate word meaning Emperor associate with Lugalzagazzi, Sargon of Akkad, or the leaders of the Ur-III dynasty?

[@petrapetrakoliou8979]

How more reasonnable graves these Sumerian kings had compared to Egyptian pharaos of that time, but also they must have lacked the monstruous power of the pharaos.

[@laurachapple6795]

Did Messanapada come to the throne really young, or was his reign exaggerated? Eighty years is a long time.

[@carlmorrison9789]

Is it General Grant?

[@loke6664]

80 years of ruling is a bit suspicious long, or do they mean he lived 80 years? It is not impossible he was king that long, particularly if he father died when he was really young and the regent doesn't count but it still seem unlikely. Or did they mix in his father reign in there too in a later clergical error? Otherwise it should be relatively easy to figure out if that un-named grave is his because I don't think skeletons over 80 years old was very common even among the elite at the time. It is certainly an interesting site, the only older royal graves we have are a few in Egypt like Pharaoh Scorpions grave and all we found there so far have been plundered way back. At least the only we are certain of were royal tombs (and yeah, the evidence for them being royal graves and not belonging to religious officials are pretty overwhelming).

[@sonnyblu6299]

Vignette... fancy! Looks good...

[@jonibarger3147]

Scripture stated Abraham was from Ur. He left his entire family there.

[@corymoore2292]

Another great video, I can’t afford to contribute yet but when I do it will be a Manila envelope full of cash. Don’t worry about how I got your address.

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Ha!

[@Got-lander]

Before I watch the whole thing, is it Aliens? It has to be Aliens…

[@Mrch33ky]

You may exit through the Gift Shop, please and thank you!

[@honodle7219]

How do you know it was pronounced 'oor' not 'ur'?

[@WorldofAntiquity]

That is the u sound in Sumerian.

[@bullfrommull]

The artefacts are exquisite. Stay away from royal burial practices. Don’t be a household member 😬

[@richardnoseknows]

Ok, but who is buried in Grant’s Tomb?

[@northatlanticcommonwealth1188]

Who’s buried in Grants tomb?

[@OGPedXing]

Can't fool me, it was Grant.

[@joeneil5485]

So why were people sacrificed and buried in lieu of the actual kings, etc...? Did I understand that correctly...? This is a 'new' thing...? Is it seen in other cultures...?

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Assyrians did this. They left us some records talking about it. Whenever there was a bad omen about the health or life of the king, they would replace him with a substitute, kill the substitute, and cancel out the bad prophecy.

[@joeneil5485]

@@WorldofAntiquity hmmm... Did it work...? According to them of course... ALSO-- major kudos to you for your channel... I like the informal, conversational flow of your narrative, but you don't sacrifice cogency and scholarship... I HATE when channels have a jokey, flippant tone; they're NEVER funny or outrageous and I just click away...

[@Chase_baker_1996]

I wonder why it's named Ur

[@Bhuvanfire]

The word Ur is a pure Tamil word The etmylogy of the word ur is clearly mentioned in Tamil language

[@Chase_baker_1996]

@@Bhuvanfire cool

[@cattymajiv]

@@Chase_baker_1996 You have been scammed. There are a group of Tamils (among others) who want to think that they were the first civilisation. Although we might never know who was the very first, it's glaringly obvious that Sumer was the first large scale one, with Assyria close behind. There is NO EVIDENCE for Tamil being the first at all. But don't take my word for it. You should NEVER believe anyone in the comment section of any video, on anything! Only trust the real scientists associated with accreditted universities and historical associations. I see this claim by Tamils fairly often in comments, but it is entirely untrue.

[@Stewie-Griffin]

@@Bhuvanfirelol such bullshit.

[@walkertongdee]

Is it really pronounced O-ur, not Ur?

[@carlosdiaz2688]

Looks like the lost civilization the Cooks are looking for … That goat in a tree .. Jesus that’s freaky .. And the Bull Harp Looks Vulcan to me ..

[@MagnusGalactusOG]

Flint Dibble vs Graham Hancock was a good debate. Dibble did well and the entire thing was very informative but once again Hancock had the more compelling arguments and *EVIDENCE* of lost technology and civilizations. It's time for old school archeologists to stop being so pompous and start trying to find answers.

[@varyolla435]

So you seem to believe that "you" decide what is supposed historical fact or nor - based upon nothing more than your subjective perception of a debate on a podcast no less = really........ 🤦 I guess by your "logic" here and approach to science and answering questions that lollipops fall from the sky if someone on YT claims thusly in a manner you find compelling and are willing to believe it.......... 🤣🤷 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKbJhaGXZbx0qMUsi=lrkuEDKS-AEDgBXA

[@chadsmith2281]

I hope we get Queen Puabi DNA results

[@tonymacaroni7458]

Whos buried in grants tomb?

[@mennnok]

I see you didn’t get the message that the sea level is supposed to be rising.

[@pittuk6500]

so, human sacrifice a standard practice on all continents except Europe and Antarctica?

[@srenette82]

Human sacrifice was not standard practice in Mesopotamia, the Royal Tombs of Ur are in many ways exceptional, not standard. Meanwhile, there are plenty of documented cases of human sacrifice in Europe during the Bronze and Iron Age, as well as the Middle Ages (witch burnings are a form of human sacrifice).

[@Rohit-jc2sm]

Lol what you think gladiators are doing it's human sacrifice not for some divine duty but for mere fun of population. Many thousands of humans, animals are killed for fun of people in roam.

[@mauricematla8379]

Well it was not me.

[@edwinter8424]

The kings list? GILGAMESH?

[@ynnjaeeOG]

I wonder what was going on with Pre-Sumerian culture