Who was Cheddar Man? |

Hear from three of the scientists who studied Cheddar Man and who use DNA to learn about our ancient relatives. This show was recorded live on 18 April 2018.
Prof Chris Stringer and Dr Selina Brace were in the studio to answer your questions.
Explore the story of Cheddar Man: www.nhm.ac.uk/cheddar-man
See our previous series of #NHM_Live here: • #NHM_Live
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[@jongrover8763]

"Ancient DNA is usually taken post-mortem". I Would Hope So!

[@mongoose2182]

actually, no. DNA is used to solve current, ongoing crimes and find living criminals via their DNA. See Story of Golden State Killer.

[@Cyndie.D]

@@mongoose2182 Ancient DNA

[@Mickferndalespeedy]

Is there any evidence that cheddar man would have tolerated cheesey jokes?

[@themtbrowns]

🤣

[@coralreef909]

Yeah cheddar man had lots of dark melanin in his skin. That’s quite normal. Brits really need to let go of the race thing that they’ve decidedly become so obsessed with.

[@gemmajanebrookes5395]

I found out via DNA testing that he is my ancestor 💓

[@leilab2806]

Me too!

[@harrietharlow9929]

@@leilab2806 Hi. My Dad's DNA carries markers from Cheddar man and he is listed as a very distant ancestor/relative.

[@DrCrabfingers]

The most mind blowing thing about this is that there is a direct descendant of Cheddar Man still living in the town, 10,000 years later. That is simply astonishing. It's a lovely part of the world...why would you want to leave! Funny aside....all inhabitants at the time (10,000 years ago) were lactose intolerant....and so wouldn't have enjoyed the wonderful Cheddar Cheese that is currently enjoyed. And for you Americans, Cheddar cheese isn't the same as the filthy stuff that you call Cheddar...Cheddar cheese is strong, dry, and has spent a number of months maturing in a cave in the Mendips....

[@stephanieyee9784]

This was very interesting and informative. I have been to Cheddar Gorge for a brief time but not long enough to visit the cave where Cheddar Man was found. I am so interested in this individual and his genetic analysis. Perhaps, when international travel restarts, I will get back to the beautiful Cheddar Gorge and the lovely town.

[@addyourname5570]

My maternal dna matches his. I thought that was so interesting to find out

[@Lefemme2]

Mine too

[@addyourname5570]

@@Lefemme2 Well hey, cousin!

[@KristinaTurnerUS]

Same with me U5A1B1.

[@valeriepeters7373]

Mine too. U5b2a1a1b

[@katiereese1529]

Mine too!

[@davidcook3508]

Love the story

[@khairulorama]

In Malaysia, we have a specimen of the Perak Man. Maybe you guys can come over and see the phenotype of this individual.

[@choptdup]

Shouldn’t be that hard or surprising whatever the findings are I mean you have not changed that much in the location your in meaning you not far in terms of adaptations from those Africans who left to put it plainly you still have many African traits even so white people do as without melanin you can’t survive on this planet I think the story of Human adaptation and transformation is one if the most interesting you can learn about no matter who you are if we go back far enough we have the same grandfather and grandmother and taking all our modern adaptations into account the story is just a marvel to behold understanding of.

[@choptdup]

Kit Kefner then how are you alive and calling yourself human?

[@vedics929]

Eurasians are the closest to the first humans (Omo Kibish, Herto Man, etc). Specifically, Northern Melenesians and Australians seem to resemble in phenotype the first humans. Then Caucasians resemble the late Pleistocene Africans. "Negroids" only come up in Africa truly less than 30 000 years ago (very child like skull with very flat foreheads and no brow ridge)(.

[@choptdup]

Vedic S 😭😭😭😭😭 you mean those whose dna root lies in Africa those Eurasians?

[@vedics929]

@@choptdup What? Our DNA doesn't "lie" in yours. Eurasians are a subset of archaic Africans, nothing more and nothing less. Think of the people from Herto Ethiopia 160 000 years ago or Nazlet Khater a bit later in Egypt. Just as Nigerians are a subset of modern day Africans or Chinese are a subset of Eurasians. Nobody's DNA "lies in" anything.

[@jonathaneffemey944]

Thanks for posting

[@georgefuentes443]

My maternal line also matches Cheddar Man ,I find all of this fascinating.

[@harrietharlow9929]

It is absolutely fascinating.

[@TipTheScales27]

That would be so cool if the scientists who test the dna of these ancient peoples would have their dna compared to them as well. That would be wild if one of them did end up being related to their subject matter

[@Survivethejive]

Q:"Was he African?" "A:certainly not" - someone forgot to send the memo to national geographic! edit: many commenters here didn't listen either!

[@shakushaku2646]

He was black deal with it

[@mursalwarsame5839]

He was not yet inbreed with neanderthal like U

[@jay5775]

@@shakushaku2646 No he was not you idiot. He was a Western Hunter Gatherer (WHG). A distinct and ancient European race that had blue eyes almost exclusively. Modern DNA research has proven that only modern white Europeans are descended from WHG's. In fact modern Europeans get their blue eyes from this race of people. Also it should be noted that modern people with the most WHG DNA are Estonians and Scandinavians.... very white people. Non-Europeans have virtually no WHG DNA and if they do it means they have European ancestry. Those are the facts... deal with it.

[@TheLeonhamm]

@@shakushaku2646 He wasn't; that was an artistic choice. He was dark-skinned .. as are Arabs, etc. Get over it.

[@jay5775]

@@peterjungmann6057 Been away from YT for a while but found your comment in my YT notifications and since no one else has responded I will. Your comment about Cheddar Man and the tired old "we are all Africans" refrain is just plain silly and not germane to the conversation. The entire hominid line most likely evolved on the African continent according to current dogma. So what is your point? However, you should know, and I think you do, that the uploader meant "not African" in a totally different context. In fact pretty sure he has addressed this silliness in other videos. But I will offer an explanation for the benefit of anyone else who may read this thread. Pretty sure that Tom meant that WHGs were not African in the sense that these Afro-Centric nutjobs mean it. In other words Cheddar Man is not Sub-Saharan African or "African" in any modern sense. And I bet you know that. What he is really trying to do is combat the ethnic and cultural appropriation of Europeans by Afro-Centric nutjobs. There are dozens of active YT channels right now claiming that all of Europe was founded by Sub Saharan Africans where they lived happily until the vile and corrupt white man slithered out of his caves in the Caucasus. There is even one that claims the Vikings were black (Hey I'm serious look it up). Calls himself the "Ancient Historian" or something like that. We wuz VIKANGS I suppose. This whole thing about "Black Cheddar Man" has only enabled and bolstered these idiots and the concept needs to be debunked. WHGs were European people with blue eyes and caucasoid features, period end of story. The truth is we do not know their true skin color but I doubt seriously it was black or even brown for that matter. Just because WHGs lack the so called "white genes", SLC24A5 and SLC45A2, doesn't mean they had black/brown skin. I suspect they ranged from an olive to a medium tan at the darkest IMHO. Hell some populations could have been fairly light skinned for all we know. There are many factors that can effect skin tone besides SLC24A5 and SLC45A2.

[@gwynwilliams4222]

He's Welsh and his name was rod

[@kathrynmcmullen2344]

Short for Rhodri?😊

[@caravaggiosaccomplice5103]

The cheese joke elevates this story way too high.

[@TheRandomGuyTheFarNoGameCat]

Aaaand subscribed.

[@andrewferg8737]

Ancestors of today's arctic people groups as they were displaced northward into the circumpolar region and eventually into the Americas via Beringia. Haplogroup U and its subclades today form the highest population concentrations in the far north, among Sami, Finns, and Siberians. However, it is spread widely at lower levels throughout Europe. This distribution, and the age of the haplogroup, indicate individuals belonging to this clade were part of the initial expansion tracking the retreat of ice sheets around 10,000 years ago.

[@nielladvb8620]

What kind that

[@gemmajanebrookes5395]

DNA analysis has advanced quite considerably in the last 3 years since this was shown including whole genome sequencing so matches including myself are starting to be found

[@memyselfi0120]

The problem with ancient bones is there is hardly if any DNA to be analyzed. They are finding miniscule fragments and comparing it to modern genomes and "reconstructing" the rest as they see fit. This means that "Ancient DNA" is just a bunch of subjective interpretations and guesswork, and by no means should anyone be fooled into excepting the results of such "studies" as scientific fact.

[@delharry4392]

@@memyselfi0120 ok ok ok mankind didn't start in Africa as its so hard to believe even though the continent is still awash with probably millions of other animals What's wrong with bigots full of hate so boring You can't believe this or their science But you can believe Adam and Eve started it along with an apple and a snake Wtf Racist Foolishness standard

[@jesusexposed1848]

Albino u miss me

[@jay5775]

@@jesusexposed1848 So you're another one of those weirdos hung up on albinos? Whats up with that?

[@Cheddar-Man]

D-dad? Is this where you've been all these years?

[@mursalwarsame5839]

Haaha

[@josejonhson674]

You're black Harry

[@donaldedward4951]

Yes, son. Did they change the divorce laws yet?

[@channelfive7883]

@@josejonhson674 You're ugly jose.

[@harrietharlow9929]

@@donaldedward4951 🤣🤣🤣

[@whitesun264]

There is lots of interest in Cheddar man, but I would love to know more about the older Skeletans found in the Cheddar area which were suppossed to be much older, reference has been made to them in other documentaries and then they skip over them and don't mention them any further. I think I have read them being referred to as Magdalian culture? I seem to remember them saying that they were about 10,000 years older. Would love to know more about them.

[@paulhickie9148]

I wish people would not push modern race and politics onto a person who as been dead for 10’00 years the world was a different place back then.

[@donaldedward4951]

Right, he can't argue back. But then Paul, color is not important except to idiots.

[@goscalp]

If he was colored white then you would have not made your statement on race. Smh

[@gusgrizzel8397]

@@donaldedward4951 Guarantee he was white.

[@uniquevideosUk]

Exactly 💯 some can't separate DNA from generics.

[@uniquevideosUk]

​​@@goscalp Didn't you listen to the video? It explained exactly why he had colour to his skin, it's not like it is now for god sake, they lived in a time that SPF & vitamins wasn't a thing & very poor conditions of living! Yet you choose to focus on colour, so desperate to turn history to your way of thinking "grow up"

[@donaldedward4951]

I want to know what human populations of TODAY share the DNA of Cheddar Man. That is the first question I want answered.

[@Hayley-Bell]

Donald Edward I share DNA with the Cheddar man according to mydnaancestry. Apparently they can check your DNA for any matches that are on the database. How accurate it really is I don't know, but interestingly I only live in the next county.

[@Jazzwayze]

When my DNA results come back I might be able to offer some light on that!

[@macinhorstemeyer1961]

@@Hayley-Bell I also have a genetic connection to him according to My True Ancestry.

[@valeriepeters7373]

My mtdna with family tree dna says I share a common ancestor with cheddar man

[@leilab2806]

I do

[@Jazzwayze]

Great Britain has not always been an island. Ten thousand years ago would be 8,000 BC (or thereabouts). When Cheddar-man roamed the land, the land mass we now know as Britain, was joined to the continental mainland and was a highland region of N.W. Europe. It was 6,100 BC before the island was separated from the continental mainland by rising sea levels. It's not really possible to say where Cheddar-man originated; we only know where he was found. Also, where was Cheddar Gorge 10,000 years ago? Could that have moved? We know the British Isles are still moving, so probably. The odds are though that Cheddar-man was European. He was a wandering, hunter-gatherer, so who knows what part of Europe he came from? During his lifetime he could have migrated from virtually anywhere in Europe. As for his skin colour, some Europeans have darker skin than other Europeans; or so I have noticed on my travels. So, what does his skin colour mean? Doesn't matter does it? His remains just tell us that there were people living in the area we now call Britain. I hope the scientists are not reading too much into his skin-tone. They might be; because for some reason, it seems to matter to them!

[@wyvernquill2796]

Obviously Conan's Tomb is buried in Doggerland

[@harrietharlow9929]

The Isle of Britain has had hominids and modern humans living on the Isle for around 800,000 years.

[@malinauvanova2195]

On this topic check the ''CROMAGNONS'', from France,35000BC, looked like modern Caucasian French, 50 skeletons have been reconstructed. They were the first artists on this planet.There is a Museum near the cave. The topic that Cromagnons were the first Homo-sapiens-sapiens =modern people has been taught in school throughout Europe for decades. In forensics Skin color does not determine race ,but the shape of the scull and skeleton.

[@TheEggmaniac]

Probably since this video was made, its been discovered that nobody in Britain is actually directly descended from Cheddar Man. The 10% of Britons, that have a small part of his DNA , have the same general maternal group ancestry as western European Mesolithic hunter-gatherers of about 8000 BCE. However, this ancestry does not relate specifically to Cheddar Man or the Mesolithic population of Britain. The media like to make out there is some direct connection, but there isnt. Its a commonly misunderstood idea, which is posted by the media, who like to simplify and sensationalise articles. A guy called Adrian Targett, who lived in same area, Cheddar Gorge, was touted as being directly descended, but in reality he is distantly related to some of the other bodies found in other parts of Europe, from that time period. Who are considered to be of the same general ethnic group of western European Mesolithic hunter-gatherers, that Cheddar Man was part of. It is thought their descendants, who then mixed greatly with the Indo Europeans new comers, may have moved into Britain, from about 4000 BCE onwards.

[@uniquevideosUk]

cheddar man! Haven't you been reading the comments? Just because he had a darker skin bk in the times, it doesn't mean anything now like some would like to think, im by DNA English, i had various genetics that are throughout different parts of Europe! Its kind of parts of history tribes moved around, lets remember GB was especially 1708, my ancestors was in English soil 1600s.

[@TheEggmaniac]

@@uniquevideosUk You dont seem to have understood my comments .Do you even read them properly? I said nobody in Britain is directly descended from Cheddar man. His genetic line disappeared a long time ago. Probably about 7000 years ago. So he didnt pass on any genes he had for darker skin to any British people living after then. So nobody in Britain in 1708 was descended from him. Not sure why you think 1708 is important. No British people in the 1600s were directly descended from him.

[@SuperSlik50]

More importantly, what is the DNA of Sharp Pepperjack man tell us?

[@SuperSlik50]

What is the capital of Wisteria?

[@fresnoniiji]

Plot Twist: Cheddar Man was the first rapper ever

[@TonyqTNT]

Ok! This is confusing was Cheddar man someone who learned an Indo-European Language or were Indo-European languages already in England?

[@matthewm2528]

Indo European languages only came withthe last migration they spoke of, 4,400 years ago with the Bell Beaker people. Before them, the neolithic folks were probably speaking a language similar to Basque. That's where Basque came from

[@TonyqTNT]

@@matthewm2528 Appreciate the clarification! So it seems the present day Basque people along the Spanish and French border never assimilated into the Indo-European cultural expansion?

[@matthewm2528]

@@TonyqTNT Yes, they managed to avoid the expansion by holding out in the Pyrenees mountains. Over the years, neighboring peoples DNA managed to trickle into Basque populations through marriage and such, but miraculously, for the most part, the Basque managed to hold onto their culture.

[@matthewm2528]

@NotJo to add to that, it was the copper age itself which brought the indo european language to Britain

[@matthewm2528]

@NotJo yeah it is confusing but I think the Basque haplogroups are borrowed from the R1b indo European neighbors who came with the copper age. It has trickled in over the years. You're right about the anatolian haplogroups. They were replaced almost completely. Except for the Basques who still retain haplogroup J in some instances

[@uniquevideosUk]

I'm English by DNA! But generics are found throughout Europe, America & Australia! It's kind of confusing but so interesting, dont let the history washers bother you.

[@bahbah9355]

Recent DNA tests on 92 LIVING KHASIS of the Khasi Hills prove their ancient age 57000 years. The DNA tests should be extended to more Khasis to confirm their real age as Khasis believe they arrived about 120000 years ago. They also spread out to modern day China, Japan, Taiwan, Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar and other countries.

[@xcaliburlight2906]

BS! Orientals are different speacies of Humans!

[@sophitsa79]

@@xcaliburlight2906 where did you pick up that bullshit?

[@denislaw8]

But this has been debunked.

[@choptdup]

By which scientist can you provide a source? Thanks

[@denislaw8]

One source is Professor JF Gariepy, biologist. However, if you go to debunked Cheddar man, on KZbin you will find others. Please let me know, if you would, your thoughts on this, Thanks.

[@marcelklein3879]

A little child can debunk this crap.

[@freddykrueger6571]

All the debunking videos I've come across online with regards to Cheddar Man seem to be from folks with a big axe to grind. Their videos would be worth something if they could at least present credible counter-evidence. But all they do is go on an endless rant. They seem to be in shock/denial to what seems obvious - the early inhabitants of Europe and indeed the UK were from Africa.

[@scumf6862]

@@freddykrueger6571 "I've come across" Yeah but nobody cares for your anecdotes, they don't substitute as an argument. "the early inhabitants of Europe and indeed the UK were from Africa." Where is your evidence for this? Sounds like you're the one with the agenda here, bud.

[@joannechisholm4501]

When I saw him I went What?? After the reconstruction so please tell me when the Europeans turned pink or white?

[@choptdup]

See Nina Jabalonski the leading scientist on pigmentation she will set your right on track.

[@scumf6862]

@@choptdup That wasn't an answer, it was a vague, pathetic attempt at damage control.

[@cameronhowe1110]

Carly Wilson they turned white because of vitamin d

[@TheLeonhamm]

'They' didn't, Carly. A lot of politically corrected nonsense is spun around this issue - e.g. Neanderthals were once depicted as dark-skinned and hairy. Look, however, at the wide variety of body hair/ pigmentation/ folate depletion/ tan across Europe, North Africa and the Middle East - thus: Are the Spanish light or dark, what about the Egyptians, the Basques or the Kurds?

[@joannechisholm4501]

@@cameronhowe1110 Well at school I was called ghost and today I still have to take VD tables because I lack it

[@protoeuro7637]

Cheddar Man had I2 Paternal DNA.

[@kenlyneham4105]

This video is designed mainly for young people who know little about Cheddar man and the history of ancient mankind. Cheddar gorge is not far from the township of Cheddar in Somerset, which has been there for a very long time. Farmers began using the caves in Cheddar gorge to mature their cheese which was named after the town. In 1996, Professor Bryan Sykes, a geneticist from the University of Oxford, first sequenced the mitochondrial DNA from one of Cheddar Man's molars. He also took samples from the local science class and its teacher. As a result, it was found that two students and the teacher were descendants of Cheddar man. Professor Bryan Sykes wrote a book where he mentions Cheddar Man, it is called, "The Seven Daughters of Eve".

[@kenlyneham4105]

@Hazel Allison Perhaps for you it does, but I could not be bothered pushing the gender neutrality of the English language, as you might be. For your perception, you might have used 'personkind'. That's neutral. There was a time, around the 1200s, when English was very gender specific just as most other languages still are. I'll give you some examples: In Spanish, la mesa, meaning table is feminine, la ventana- window, feminine, el techo the ceiling or roof, masculine, el piso, the floor is masculine, etc. All Romance languages are like that as well as German and many others. If you lived in those times, you would have referred to the sun as 'SHE' in English!

[@kenlyneham4105]

@Hazel Allison Igualmente!

[@kenlyneham4105]

@Hazel Allison 'Humankind' still has 'man' in it, doesn't that bother you too?

[@Imrepenting]

I have a hard time believing that Cheddar Man skin was that dark. This seems a lil too pc for me.

[@lerongfederacion2364]

how is science PC

[@Alexander-tu3iv]

The algorithm used for the reconstruction was flawed as admitted by the creator of it. Western hunter gatherers which Cheddar man belonged to are usually depicted as Olive or light brown skin. This makes more sense given that whg populations are closer to modern Europeans, berbers and copts than to sub Saharan Africans. The media as always took a scientific article as fact ran with it and then failed to correct themselves once new information came out. Scientists do their jobs and the media spins it to get clicks. Most people only care about science if it backs up their worldview and political agenda, sad but true

[@xcaliburlight2906]

@@Alexander-tu3iv People's color was adapted to climate i.e Berbars were light skinned as it gets cool in the winter!

[@joannechisholm4501]

@@lerongfederacion2364 Blue eyes are are only found in the white population mainly Northern Europe

[@KeegoonBarnacle]

Both really dark black skin and white skin as it exists now in the modern human genetic code are relatively new adaptations.

[@Leo-us4wd]

A western hunter gatherer

[@pseudopetrus]

I would have liked to know how much Neanderthal DNA Cheddar Man had if any?

[@matthewm2528]

He would have had about s much as we do, today. Ever since the "event" neanderthal DNA has been selected against by our evolution as unhelpful and is broken up into very small pieces. Even individuals who had more recent neanderthal ancestry had only a small percentage, though the portions of DNA were more intact. The model skull the scientist was demonstrating on in this video is actually the best example we have of someone with recent neanderthal ancestry. His great grandparent was a neanderthal. The individual was found in a Romanian cave and is called Oase 1. Check it out! Very interesting stuff

[@pseudopetrus]

@@matthewm2528 I get what you are saying about dead end genetics (genes that hinder survival). I read that Otzi had 5.5 Neanderthal admixture but that that value has come into question depending on the model used. Just curious, that all.

[@johneyre9493]

It's been debunked lots of times.

[@pantherasad2114]

you're in denial

[@johneyre9493]

@@pantherasad2114 nope, no way of knowing what colour he was. chances are he would have been brown, like iberian/mediterranean or middle eastern coloured. but not black.

[@pantherasad2114]

@Marcus Aurelius I find it interesting how you guys reject some research but accept other research, make up your mind...

[@pantherasad2114]

@Marcus Aurelius if you understand science, you wait for more examples to be excavated, science is never absolute.

[@pantherasad2114]

@Marcus Aurelius and you're an ideological drone. if you don't agree with it, then disprove the evidence...

[@conniehamilton5595]

Mitochondria DNA matches cheddar man as an ancestor

[@happyone4753]

Many Khasis and Jaintias have become Christians converted by Welsh, Irish, English, Scottish, Germans, Italians, Spanish, French, American and Maltese missionaries. But a significant size remain with their ancient Khasi Religion, the oldest living religion of the world.

[@choptdup]

Do you mean oldest European religion/cultural practice?

[@veronicalogotheti1162]

The cromagnon was around

[@paulywantsacracker69]

We wuz Europeans

[@MYKEYCARD]

.

[@aib0160]

"Darker skin", yet the reconstruction has been depicted as what most would recognise as being black. Somebody from the Iberian peninsular will have darker skin than I do and this is certainly where the Beaker people came from.

[@SithStudy]

The reconstruction is a lie. The scientists themselves admitted there is no way to determine what skin color he had.

[@MrK-wu7ci]

05:35 Chris Stringer: "He's not very strongly built for his time." He was Negrito, which is the original Sapiens phenotype. The Western Hunter Gatherers like Cheddar Man came directly from the Ancient Non-African population in East Africa, 50,000 years ago. Same for the Ancient North-Eurasians and also the Eastern Hunter Gatherers, like ultimately the Andaman Islanders. 10:55 Cannibalism Red Flag. 12:24 Not impressed with the non-closing facemask, and the tin foil.

[@TecumsehSherman36]

CHEDDAR MAN WAS A CHEESY CAVE MAN

[@christoviola8359]

why must you do this to me...

[@nneichan9353]

Unbelievably slow. Presentation drags.

[@lamarakaleci9242]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😄😄😁😁

[@johnharrington5145]

Imagine 1000 years from now they dig up an Asian-American fossil from somewhere in Nebraska, then they can teach about the early Chinese who ruled Nebraska, trying to figure out history through pieces of bones we find is impossible, only documentation can truly explain anything

[@fadillangston9797]

Go to college.

[@charliedoyle7824]

Quite a dumb take John.

[@RandomPlayIist]

Yeah because cheddar man flew a plane to England 10,000 years ago, who is to say he's really from there!

[@christoviola8359]

no u lol

[@joannechisholm4501]

The big mystery were did whites come from?

[@joannechisholm4501]

This might clear hings up a bit

[@KeegoonBarnacle]

White skin in modern humans is a relatively new phenomenon. Neanderthals also had white skin but it was coded for with different genes and is not the same genotype as modern white people.

[@TheLeonhamm]

@@KeegoonBarnacle Not quite. Robust and gracile humans, along with hairy or de-haired, and thus dark/ light skins have co-existed, still do co-exist, and if left to ourselves will continue to co-exist in a variety of climates, environments, and kinds. That Mediterranean fair/ tanned/ deep-tanned types moved to the Atlantic coast and along the Nile, et al, repeatedly, is no more surprising than that dark/ brown/ black skinned Ethiopic varieties of humans trekked across Southern Asia and into Australasia. P.S. The Neanderthal variations had similar diversity. After all, those remains found in Croatia were dark-skinned and brown-haired. However, the data that suggests there was very little Neanderthal interaction with other more 'modern' humans in Africa does need some explanation ..

[@donaldedward4951]

Skin with less pigmentation evolved to enhance the production of Vitamin D from sunlight in populations in northern latitudes where there was less sunlight. It must have been a slow gradual process. Since apparently we evolved from Australopithecines in East Africa, we must all be emigrants (and thus immigrants) including President Trump who evolved from an Orange Ootan (Yes, I know I am a poor speller).

[@Jazzwayze]

From somewhere that had a climate that didn't need built-in Sun-block! Like Northwestern Europe? So it probably wasn't the African continent!

[@whatthehell6208]

Yeah i'am not very good at sciene thing and i'am asian,white people originated from white poeple...blue cannot just turn to orange

[@gusgrizzel8397]

@Whatthehell Correct. The races are different subspecies. There are no races in the animal world.

[@gusgrizzel8397]

@PL4stik1991 You really believe you came from africans??

[@FoxzyD009]

@@gusgrizzel8397 🤪🤪😂😂

[@rubenjames7345]

Cheddar Man isn't the only low brow thing happening here.

[@ScoutIntermediary]

The African Man was the first inhabitant of the UK.

[@uniquevideosUk]

No it wasn't 😂

[@uniquevideosUk]

He had alittle Aficain ancestral generics if you bothered to listen! Just because cheddar man had some colour, doesn't mean he was Aficain, Europeans are all so very different from eyes, hair & colour, it was so different back in them times aswell, it's not like it us now what's so ever 🙈 I've started doing research and you are talking nonsense! But everything is Aficain when it comes to colour, i just wonder why you feel the need to make this kind of history political? Do a DNA on your ancestral Heritage, you'll find out if you have Aficain, arab, Asian DNA! I've found myself till 1600s im 100% English by DNA, but I'm constantly learning via tests, evidence, various documents ,& pictures, not anywhere have I found Aficain DNA.

[@uniquevideosUk]

DNA is so different to ancestral Heritage! It's worth learning about your own to understand it & lets remember GB wasn't even a thing till 1708, tribes moved around through many different hardships in time, so stop twisting everything to make it political, it's so far back its perfectic.

[@eddierayporter1716]

PUT THE BIBLE IN THE MIX WHEN IT COMES TO YEARS

[@veronicalogotheti1162]

So he was a cannibal

[@miker9101]

Cheddar Man invented cheese.

[@janeisinsincere3968]

Lol that’s my great x 1000 grandad

[@barbarasettle1782]

Are you related to him? I am...

[@paulo7507]

hes not African is he? No But yea

[@uniquevideosUk]

He had ancestral generics that we all have, it was only that tribes fought, that we ended up having a home! My ancestors moved alot throughout time, mostly through wars, famine & poverty, I'm 100% English by DNA with what I've traced till 1600s, but you constantly find more evidence as you go along.

[@elbajio65]

Hoax.

[@beaulah_califa9867]

Very sad to focus on his skin color. Genes don't lie. We did all come from Africa. Chris Stringer is one of the MOST respected paleoanthropologists alive. I think that he's competent enuf to supervise this reconstruction.

[@ProfessorShnacktime]

Out of Africa has some holes in it these days. Also, they focus on the skin color to promote a multicultural narrative of multi-ethnic occupation of England since ancient times. It's an agenda.

[@jamesconnolly5164]

Please. He lacked some alleles associated with modern Europeans' fair skin tone, but so do the Japanese. An intellectually honest depiction would have given him a tone that was more olive. The whole point of portraying him in the darkest possible skin tone was to white erase the history of a Western country. The only people descended from Western Hunter Gatherers are white people.

[@redwolfmedia1276]

It's obvious they've been made to lie about his skin color! It doesn't take an Expert to see how completely uncomfortable she was repeating this aspect of the so called "Research"! Like a little kid that has did something they was told better not to,she looks to her Co-Conspoirator to help her tell the lie to so she doesn't have to go down alone! Then the supposed Expert contradicts himself right away and it's obvious they have absolutely no proof,it's just the Narrative that's being pushed from above! They know it's not true but they feel compelled to go along because they know that's what the people in charge want! People will say "Oh they just want to end "Racism" but no their literally erasing our History and Our Ancestry to eventually erase us!

[@mongoose2182]

Oh, please. Racism is alive and well.

[@theassassin9326]

Facts doesn't care about your fillings. Do you realise that African left Africa and came to Europe, so afcors early European were black people. And yes 9000 years ago there weren't no such thing as a white man, all humans were black. People only started to turn into white around 8000 years ago.

[@yagsipcc287]

@@theassassin9326 his skin would not of been nearly that dark, as shown by the paper he was most likely a medium light skin tone (sort of a more Spanish skin tone) They done this despite the data that is what people are talking about the data...

[@sweetlittledumpling9534]

No evidence? She took this man's bone marrow for his head. You can’t do anything better than that. You’re racist. You making yourself look like a clown.

[@faddalp6056]

Mad because black people was here first

[@DaveG425]

They found a really old fossil so it must be the first human to ever be there. No way could there be older fossils. Case closed.

[@choptdup]

Sad that the so called none scientific debunking videos get all the attention then the actual scientist who did the work get... ! Smh

[@babyabreu]

White people are when asked is cheddar man African? He was defiantly not from Africa but his ancestors maybe was ...

[@TheShootist]

everyone's ancestor to the Nth was from Africa. What's all the hubbub, bub?

[@beaulah_califa9867]

I just visited the so called "Cheddar Man Debunked" video. It was as I SUSPECTED> . Some character (person) who never shows his face, who never shares his credentials as a scientist- genetist. Some weirdo who has swayed a lot of people to his viewpoint. I don't believe things just b/c there's a video. I only accept the testimony or opinions of scholars; and I also review what other scholars think of the the scholar whose words I am considering. This is called using one's BASIC INTELLIGENCE. That Shinobayaki person clearly lacks scientific knowledge.

[@jay5775]

L johnson Well it appears that you need to do some more research yourself and not just one video. Trust me on this Captain Brainiac there are a lot more people out there debunking this than this one video. I have been studying this topic for years and Cheddar Man was not black nor African. And by that I mean he did not have black skin and he was not genetically related to "black people" as defined in modern terms, in other words he was not Sub Saharan. He was a Western Hunter Gatherer (WHG), a unique and separate race from all modern races and doesn't exist as such today. WHGs had olive to tan skin tone with straight brown or black hair, caucasoid facial features, and virtually all WHGs had blue eyes. Actually this is where modern European people get their blue eyes. Genetically speaking the only people alive today that are related to WHGs are modern Euros. In fact, Scandinavians, particularly Estonians, have the most WHG DNA than any other ethnicity. In other words the whiter you are the more likely to be related to WHGs you are. In this case WHGs were framed as "black" strictly for political purposes. Total BS, nothing more. I would link the numerous studies that back me up but I've noticed these posts get shadow banned if I do. Besides why should I do your work for you. Some simple searches and you should be able to find them yourself. There have been numerous studies released over the past 4 to 5 years that demonstrate these facts. You know, you being all about scientific research and all.

[@HerrGesetz]

Maybe he died of Sepsis?? Looks like he had a massive infection in the middle of his face

[@QT5656]

I'm pretty sure that the palaeoanthropologists would checked that possibility after having studied the osteology for several years.

[@TonyqTNT]

Did you hear what Cheddar Man's Mom said to Cheddar Man? This East End girl, Does she come from a good family?

[@dogriffiths]

Dear sweet Heaven, who sent this video around the white nationalist forums? These comments….

[@TheLeonhamm]

That, alas, DG, is how 'science' seems to work now .. as a political tool. I say 'now' but of course agenda-driven 'science' has been pushed for well over one hundred years. Naturally enough, debunked science is usually called pseudo-science .. once the falsehoods have been exposed and finally acknowledged.

[@jay5775]

@David No one you idiot. Of course for leftist halfwits like you anyone who has a different opinion is a "white nationalist". Just another red herring you and your ilk tosses out there to muck things up. The opposition comes from people like me who have been studying this topic for years and know this is pure BS propaganda. The individual is a Western Hunter Gatherer. A purely European race with blue eyes and Caucasian features whose DNA only resides in the genome of modern Europeans. No other modern race on the planet has significant WHG DNA unless they have an ancestor that had sex with white people. They put black skin on him so they could promote a leftist multi-cultural agenda. At worst he had olive or tan skin like most other WHGs.

[@shitakeb2416]

Why people are surprise . the first humankind is Lucy and she is Ethiopian .so no wandering chedderman is African (Ethiopian)

[@delharry4392]

Exactly

[@alexanderhanooman]

Skin colour matters to people who follow race as identity. And not the minds of individuals. That's why the Bible's account is still best.

[@KolyaUrtz]

race is identity. People who dont follow race as their identity are just delusional.

[@alexanderhanooman]

@@KolyaUrtz my biblical perspective has changed. But saying people who rely on race as primitive still stands.

[@alexanderhanooman]

@@RandomPlayIist hahaha...talves! Yes now for a shot we are human this has stayed constant. 😜

[@ebonythunder]

This wasn't a surprise to me at all. I always thought that white/pale skin was just the result of a mutation from the 'normal' black/darker skin we tend to have as humans (?)

[@TheLeonhamm]

Incorrect, ET. The first 'humans' - if Darwinian evolution is to be believed - would have been pale-skinned, like apes, darkening with hair loss especially in tropical conditions. Note well, many forms of 'early' man dealt with wildly changed 'climates' - the major Ice Ages made for cooler, damper areas in now heat-scorched 'Africa'.

[@jay5775]

@ebony thunder Actually Cheddar Man was not black. And by that I mean he did not have black skin and he was not genetically related to "black people" as defined in modern terms, in other words he was not Sub Saharan. He was a Western Hunter Gatherer (WHG), a unique and separate race from all modern races and doesn't exist as such today. WHGs had olive to tan skin tone with straight brown or black hair, caucasoid facial features, and virtually all WHGs had blue eyes. Actually this is where European people get their blue eyes. Genetically speaking the only people alive today that are related to WHGs are modern Euros. In fact, Scandinavians, particularly Estonians, have the most WHG DNA than any other ethnicity. In other words the whiter you are the more likely to be related to WHGs you are. In this case WHGs were framed as "black" strictly for political purposes. Total BS, nothing more.

[@yagsipcc287]

@Mike dav his skin would not of been nearly that dark, as shown by the paper he was most likely a medium light skin tone (sort of a more Spanish skin tone) They done this despite the data that is what people are talking about the data...

[@faddalp6056]

@@jay5775 ya really mad , his ancestors was African . And Africans come in all shades with out mixing

[@jay5775]

@@faddalp6056 Uhh no. You're just another afro-centric halfwit who doesn't understand basic genetics or basic science. WHGs, such as cheddar man, are my ancestors. They are not African genetically at all. DNA and phenotype are European. Period. End of story. The people with the most WHG DNA are Scandinavians and Estonians. The whitest people on the planet. Only people of European descent are related to WHG. These people deliberately made him look extra dark for political reasons. You morons need to quit stealing and appropriating DNA and culture that doesn't belong to you. Oh and btw its "his ancestors were African" not "was African". You can't even write in basic English let alone understand basic genetics.

[@eddierayporter1716]

Read the Bible unless if understand our past history