Who Was Worse? Livia or Janice? - Soprano Theories

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When we look back at the two women that have caused Tony Soprano with the most amount of stress, anxiety, and have just downright made his life a pain in the you know what... there's no denying it's his late mother Livia and his sister Janice. Now some would argue that this title belongs to his wife Carmela, but no, it's Livia and Janice. But what exactly made them so miserable, evil, and manipulative towards Tony? Livia and Janice were so eerily similar that they both haunted Tony right up until the series' finale episode. From Janice shooting her fiancé, tape recording him as a child, and always asking for money, to Tonys own mother attempting to assassinate him. But with all of these issues that are addressed throughout the series, who was worse?
Comment down below your thoughts about who you think was the more evil mobster was? Livia or Janice? Let me know down below! 👇🏻
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[@awesomo925]

I feel bad for Bobby's kids. This lady just bombarded into their lives, even against the entire family's wishes, and now that Bobby's dead they're stuck with her.

[@jbrass03]

Bobby Jr is going to be hopeless

[@K37-h1z]

She does at least try towards the end of the show. But ya bobby Jr is fukt

[@ericsilver9401]

Didn’t Bobby’s son go to his aunts? I thought it was Bobby’s daughter who was at risk since Janice wanted her girl to have a sister

[@DeathBeforeComicSans]

That Janice would manipulate those kids with the online chat/ouija board-that scene made me want to vomit.

[@ict113090]

I feel worse for them than Vito’s kids

[@masterzombie161]

I think we all can agree that Barbara was the luckiest one. She had her own family, she wasn’t toxic and she survived the series.

[@jgmediting7770]

How do we know she wasn’t toxic?

[@Noneofyourbusiness_.I._]

@@jgmediting7770she was barely present so that’s a start lol

[@cloudbloom]

Side note but the actress who played Janice did an absolutely phenomenal job with that character

[@proffnanners]

An incredible performance imo

[@Darth_Cornpop]

Yes! Aida Turturro- cousin of *John Turturro.

[@paulavery5889]

That's why people love or hate the characters. Precisely because they did a good job.

[@shrim1481]

The series finale for The Sopranos should have been AJ and Janice being driven out to a cornfield and given the "casino treatment." That would have been a much better ending than what we received.

[@paulavery5889]

@@shrim1481 I can't imagine being so upset with fictional characters from over two decades ago. Take it easy.

[@lukamilic]

Janice using Bobby was the most disgusting thing she ever did. But Livia wanting Tony dead is unbeatable.

[@PankHiggin]

Initially she was using him but she clearly ended up caring about him a lot

[@bane8305]

fax@@PankHiggin

[@TheSolidSnakeOil]

The way she swooped in on him after his wife died made her completely nonredeemable to me.

[@bane8305]

@@TheSolidSnakeOil Dude I'm sure Bobby wasn't even mad or had a problem with that you guys are just making her seem evil .. They hooked up when they were young aswell

[@cisrael468]

@@PankHiggin when did Janice ever show that she cared about him outside of her own self interests?

[@kongfeet81]

Choosing between Livia and Janice is like choosing between different types of cancer

[@samanthalake5011]

Stomach or toe

[@kongfeet81]

@@samanthalake5011 stomach and prostate

[@smellsuperb1]

Breast cancer or melanoma 😭🤣

[@piggy310]

​@@smellsuperb1breast cancer is the most overfunded easily survivable cancer

[@erics362]

It's not a nursing home. It's a retirement community.

[@Damnwhatshouldmynamebe]

Janice absolutely wanted Tony dead in s2. Go back and watch all the scenes where she and Richie talk about him. Richie often tries to give Tony the benefit of the doubt but its Janice who makes him feel angry about the situations

[@samanthab1923]

Livia by far. She made both Tony & Janice the way they are.

[@jessjess23brooks89]

Yeah, Janice and Tony desperately tried to to unfuck the problems that Livia instilled in them. They both failed miserably, but still. Livia just steeped in her misery and never took accountability for a thing in her life. Tony was right, if Livia had been born a man, she would have been the perfect boss. Because Sopranos has taught us that being an effective boss requires you to be the worst human being imaginable, which would be that horrid old lady.

[@TheMasterQuests]

She would’ve died before becoming boss, maybe a capo but not a boss

[@DylanWhite-k5j]

Tony and Janice loved power more than their own families.

[@TPFB129]

Livia, at least Janice tries to change for the better.

[@jakealter5504]

Janice didn’t, she was faking it

[@hez859]

Absolutely not. Janice 100 percent was trying to change for the better. As someone else mentioned the kitchen scene with Tony is the perfect example@@jakealter5504

[@TheUnseenPath]

Janice stole someone's prosthetic leg, that's low and she left her son and infiltrated a man's life. She's worse.

[@Spooky_515]

Livia. She wanted to off her own son without zero remorse or guilt

[@ashen2192]

Janice wanted to kill Tony too although she probably wanted to do it for the money unlike Livia

[@theantone7476]

She gave her life to her children on a silva platta. She was a saint

[@CoreyT127]

Janice was trying to get Richie to kill Tony too! With zero remorse. And actually murdered someone unlike Livia.

[@marquisdesade3025]

@@CoreyT127as far as we know

[@hithere4719]

Tony deserved it.

[@LivingGhost1]

Janice was more selfish but Livia was more spiteful and conniving. She held grudges against people like Tony putting her in a "nursing home" and played victim when she was called out on it. Janice I do think cared about people deep down like Bobby, Tony, her daughter and even Bobby's kids to some degree. Tony is arguably worse than both because he literally killed his own cousin "nephew" with his own two hands just so he wouldn't be a burden on him both financially and incase he ratted to the feds even though he came to T about Adriana being an FBI informant and how he treated Hesh who was basically an uncle to him.

[@nls8520]

It's a retirement community!

[@host_arnold6187]

The Tony B incident was more of a kindness. When Phil got to him, it wouldn’t have been nearly as quick. That animal Blundetto was already dead, he killed the kid brother of a boss after all.

[@shawnbbunbbbybbb3942]

@@host_arnold6187killing his cousin (nephew) with his own 2 hands I think he was talking about Christopher not tony egg… I mean tony b

[@ndep93]

"She called Sophia her daughter!" "I DON'T GIVE A FUCK!" "..." "Okay, I do a give a fuck."

[@LivingGhost1]

@@shawnbbunbbbybbb3942 Yeah I meant Christopher. Tony B was a mercy killing and probably the least morally reprehensible murder Tony committed because he really didn't wanna do it but he knew Tony B would eventually get caught by Phil and tortured to death or get other members of the crew killed as retaliation. Chrissy's was cold blooded and the fact he had no remorse after for it just showed how evil Tony had become.

[@magicmoonmonke]

Idk if Janice would kill her own kids but Lyvia

[@N_Wah_]

Janice did try to kill her own brother tho

[@Lilyanna298]

@@N_Wah_No. She schemed against him, but when Richie hinted about killing him she was against it

[@JGJGAGSG]

@@Lilyanna298no she wasn’t. It was the exact opposite. When Richie told Janice he did not get a favorable ruling on the decision to kill Tony, Janice was visibly angry and disappointed

[@Cazz8203]

Pretty sure Janice was manipulating Richie to kill Tony. When Richie told Janice the decision went against him to kill Tony, she was visibly pissed off.

[@TheRAH14]

I think the main reason Janice seems worse to a lot of people is that we simply had more time with her. The audience only sees Livia in action for 2 years (seasons), but there were years and years of her abuse and manipulation that took place before the show. Meanwhile, Janice was gone during a lot of that time, but she's in the show every season but the first. And also (as someone else mentioned), Livia MADE Tony and Janice the way they are (or at least had a big part in them being damaged)

[@KrisBryant99]

No even a SHORT time can make you learn so much about a person lol Livia was NEVER a bad person. She just stuck around people who werent for her mentally.

[@TheRAH14]

@@KrisBryant99 I can see what you're saying...rarely are people all good or all bad, and those with mental/psychological illness aren't responsible for how they develop neurochemically. I feel like the seeds of personality disorder were there from the start and made much MUCH worse by the people around her, but in the end people make choices so she could have tried not to be such a black hole lol

[@owenmccord5078]

Livia was Frankenstein; her oldest kids were her monsters.

[@beautifullyblessed2768]

Livia is the worst because she molded her kids to be the way they were. Her trying to kill Tony was way worse than Janice killing abusive Richie, he earned that

[@jakealter5504]

Whereas Tony didn’t deserve the treatment he received from Livia

[@lambsauce5312]

​@@jakealter5504and Livia didn't deserve the treatment she got from Johnny Boy, the saint.

[@jakealter5504]

@@lambsauce5312 I disagree, they both deserved it. Johnny being terrible to livia is no excuse for livia being a monster to her children

[@lambsauce5312]

@@jakealter5504 I didn't say that her abuse can be excused, I'm just saying the cycle of abuse, without Johnny she might've been a better mother despite her mental illness and the period in which she raised them

[@jakealter5504]

@@lambsauce5312 based on what we were told about how she was when she met Johnny, it’s unlikely she would have been better since she was broken before meeting and marrying him. Hell, she even prevented Johnny from trying to go legit when he mentioned wanting to move the family to Nevada

[@JustSomeCanadianGuy]

Livia wouldn't barge into my house uninvited. Janice would. Janice is worse.

[@JoseCom11]

I hated the fact that Janice presented herself as free-spirited, open-minded and liberal although she was actually manipulative, selfish, prejudicial, and racist. At least Livia was honest about her thoughts.

[@jamesmorant1406]

Both characters we're terrible but have to go Livia she made everyone life a living hell

[@erics362]

You're only "fatally shot" if you die from it. 😂

[@mas5658]

not true. dont argue bout somethin you dont know bout Cuzzy

[@mas5658]

fatally shot can also mean shot in a way that couldve very easily killed you or had you in very bad condition where you might not make it.

[@erics362]

@@mas5658 Definition of fatally: in a manner resulting in death. Hush. 🤫

[@gutter339]

@@mas5658 Then it's not "fatal" dumb sht

[@whg5ptyyy159]

@@mas5658fatally means ur dead just like fatality😂which means occurrence of death by accident, in war (gun shot) or from disease. So he’s right dummy

[@bane8305]

Without even watching I can say Livia because Janice atleast made attempts to become better and actually got better after going to therapy, which was why tony was so aggrivated by her and lashed out at her at dinner

[@phillipmorgan4627]

It's weird that this got left out

[@JGJGAGSG]

Janice did not get better with therapy. She was just making her true self.

[@jakealter5504]

@@JGJGAGSGyes

[@paulmarks9063]

i actually always felt that janice had a hand in richie's plan to whack tony. she was definitely leading him in that direction, if only subconsciously

[@Joe1887]

For the last time, it was a "retirement community!"

[@mikedawolf95]

Pain caused to Tony Janice: Financial Pain Olivia: Emotional Pain

[@sterlingross919]

Janice is definitely worse than Livia. Janice inherited Livia’s Borderline Personality Disorder so she also had issues forming attachments, it’s also why she is constantly “reinventing” herself, from hippie to born again Christian to stereotypical mob wife. What makes her worse though is that even though Livia did awful things to Tony, her hatred didn’t really extend pass him. Janice leeches on to anyone she possibly can if it means she doesn’t have to function properly and she leaves a trail of destruction in her path. There’s also the fact that her son doesn’t speak to her which means she must have done something awful to him as well, it’s just never revealed what. Both Livia and Janice are narcissists, but Janice is willing to use any method possible to get what she wants, regardless of the consequences.

[@JGJGAGSG]

Janice reminds me of Meghan Markle.

[@sterlingross919]

@@JGJGAGSG calm down, Piers Morgan

[@JGJGAGSG]

@@sterlingross919sorry that the truth bugs you

[@explodingplant2]

Janice stole someone's lyeg. But Livia tried to have her son clipped

[@WiseAilbhean]

Livia had mental issues and it unfortunately affected her kids. But as Janice said about her mom’s behavior, No one chooses that. Livia had mental issues and a father who wasn’t nice. Janice willingly makes choices to benefit herself much like how she was raised to be. Anything to get her way. However, she did make legit attempts to improve herself and her life… even if sometimes it was manipulative. She swallowed her pride and took anger management classes for her family.

[@dc56789]

As u said Janice tried to improve her own personality disorder, that's why Livia was worse.

[@joergenmaster7530]

Janice only did it because Bobby gave her an ultimatum I feel like any strides she would have made would have been temporary Tony made it shorter, but she would have relapsed eventually

[@dc56789]

@@joergenmaster7530 it's not a case of relapsing, people with a personality disorder literally have a warped sense of things like love , anger etc usually because of childhood trauma from a parent with a personality disorder. We are always like this but like normal people we have good days and bad days too. Ours are just more extreme.

[@Spooky_515]

@@dc56789livia was also far more clever and cunning than Janice

[@Spooky_515]

@@joergenmaster7530that’s why she did it at first but she had a break through on her own .. until Tony saw it and sabotaged it lol

[@ciarajones4970]

I would say Janice, she managed to get away from her family but still came back and ended up being even worse than her own mother. Not including the fact that she had relations with Ralphie 🤢after Rou lost her son. Manipulating bobby into feeling bad for grieving his wife and mother of his kids. Constantly trying to make everyone feel sorry for her while being sneaky and looking for handouts.

[@hez859]

Couldn't disagree more lol Livia tried to kill her own son, and Also helped create the damage within Tony and Janice

[@EGHawk7683]

They Were Both Terrible

[@DrewAnd-f9m]

So you’re telling me women are the issue?

[@cooperbourke7717]

Honestly, Livia takes this round simply because she was the Mother. But Janice isn't much better.

[@kloveda5]

His mother was a bigger threat, his sister was just annoying and added to general stress (not actively dangerous).

[@alsaunders3937]

Janice was by far the best actor on the entire series, period.

[@T-roc57]

Janice gave her one hell of a run for her money but still gotta go with Livia.

[@bonnirose7479]

Livia, no question. Janice was his sibling; Livia was his MUDDA!

[@Baelor-Breakspear]

Janice completely played her therapist

[@normamarotta7765]

Tony was not fatally shot.

[@djwalkerfemaledj]

Like mother like daughter I would say Livia was evil

[@michaels5659]

She did kill her fiancé justifiable

[@anon2427]

Not justifiable

[@jakealter5504]

@@anon2427it was considering he had literally just punched her

[@patclau006]

​@@jakealter5504you can't kill someone because he punched you, not justfiable at all, even in the Sopranos world, a woman shooting a made man in retaliation for a punch is not justifiable,

[@jakealter5504]

@@patclau006 unless she’s related to the boss or did you forget that Tony had already marked Richie for death after learning that Richie was going to try to overthrow him from uncle junior?

[@choochcoleman703]

you have completely missed that Janice had manipulated Richie to kill Tony. There was a partials discussion about this when Janice and Richie were driving in a car. Janice talks about striking your opponent swiftly like the famous Chinese warrior. It is easy to find.

[@judywright4241]

Plus I think that’s what was in her mind with Ralphie and later Bobby. It’s difficult to say since all three people are all dangerous.

[@nabeelnitro6447]

Sun te zu?

[@lukashood25]

Who was worse for Tony, I’d say Livia Who was worse for the viewers-Janice all day.

[@DioBrandoWRYYYYYY]

Livia is worse. Like Janice is annoying and scummy, but at least you can sort of accept some of it because it was her trying to claw her way upwards in life and if she did get to a place of financial stability maybe she would be tolerable. Livia on the other hand is just a black hole of misery for who the only joy in life is messing with other people. People who just mess with you for the joy of messing with you are potentially way more dangerous than regular con men because they just never stop.

[@DaveSCameron]

Excellent upload 😂

[@TPG25153]

Ohh poor you

[@LtJackboot]

Aida did a spectacular job of portraying a woman who would be the product of a demented personality like Livia. This means to me that neither is worse than the other, they are 2 sides of the same coin.

[@loganerb3952]

This is a damn good question honestly

[@samanthalake5011]

Bof are insufferable

[@sheena171]

Definitely Livia.

[@itsDEWgan]

Great video!! I’d love to see a Sopranos Theories dedicated to exploring how/why Tony + Janice’s estranged sister Barbara seems to be the most well adjusted of the trio. It almost seems impossible no?

[@issaphae9659]

as someone with a sibling, nothing about janice’s relationship with tony seemed out of the ordinary. well, other than her shooting a man …

[@Lady_Boo]

I think Livia was the worst....she created, and raised, Janice and Tony. Barb was the only remotely normal one. And she was smart enough to get OUT.

[@TheSnoozeFox]

I'd say Livia, I don't think Janice actually hated Tony like his mother did

[@cessxiii]

If Tony was FATALLY SHOT by Junior, he would have died. That is what fatal means LOL

[@12monkey57]

Lucia was worse for sure

[@Espinozaize]

You should do a crossover. Who was worse: Michael Corleone or Anthony Soprano??

[@alphabetsoup6681]

Good question!! Also Michael because he had no guilt.

[@patclau006]

Corleone killed his brother, his mother's son, no contest

[@jakealter5504]

@@patclau006at least Tony actually regretted when he had to kill a direct family member (Tony blundetto) and only did it to spare him from a slow and painful death by Phil leotardo

[@johnnyg2049]

Janice knocked off Richie which was the best hit on the series, so she gets my props no matter how fucked up she was.

[@sca8217]

Livia, because Tony did not fantasize suffocating Janice with a pillow.

[@yajy4501]

What do you mean Livia is bad? She gave her kids her life on a silver platter.

[@jaylenlenear3944]

Until David chase confirms it I still believe Livia didn't manipulate Tony's hit. She was legit delusional the entire series. People only subscribe to her knowing because it's more interesting to the show

[@nrlsan36_34]

For me, that scene after Tony gets shot and Livia and Jun are watching it on the news basically confirms that Livia knew what she was doing, or at least was aware of the "repercussions". "How could this have happened?" "You realize what this means, Olivia?!" "My son got shot...and he got away."

[@jakealter5504]

@@nrlsan36_34plus she told Artie about Tony burning down his restaurant, Artie was lucky that Tony considered him a friend and didn’t do anything to him since tony has killed over less than

[@CRM10000]

Janice is by far the most despicable human At least Livia did love tony and everyone else in her own weird way But Janice?😂

[@roganpaterson3423]

Olivia was worse. She has mentally scarred Tony and tried to have him whacked twice. She also almost constantly guilt tripped him. Janice was bad but she had times when they showed they cared for one another. Also the whole cast of sopranos was spot on.

[@jgmediting7770]

Janice was no different to Tony.

[@knoelle1357]

Don’t make me choose favorites, they’re both awful, but Livia is worse.

[@brothalij7140]

Livia by far. At least with Janice you knew how to deal with her. Livia was unpredictable

[@sonyajedwards]

Tony was trying to sell Liv’s house, and Janice took down the sign.

[@mbgal7758]

I think Livia is far worse too. No one has the kind of power that a mother does in your life. Those things cut deeper I think. Tony was always able to control Janet to a certain extent. She was just after money. Livia was just hateful.

[@Nickyeyes]

Too close to call. Both manipulated men to try to have Tony clipped. Livia w/ Junior and Janice w/ Richie ("you're the boss, it should be you"). How did she think Richie was going to make that happen? Just ask Tony to step down? Richie did go to Junior for permission to take Tony out. If I HAD to pick, I'd say Rising Damp 666 by a c**t hair.

[@hithere4719]

Livia didn’t hurt anyone who didn’t deserve it. Tony and Janice were horrible kids who did nothing but hurt their mother. She was a mob widow with horrible, ungrateful kids. Their younger sister was likely avoiding those two more so than Livia.

[@Sisyphusquit]

Janice would never put a hit on Tony. Plus, Janice killing Ritchie is a big plus. Not to mention putting a beat down on a soccer mom.

[@JGJGAGSG]

What are you talking about?? She absolutely egged Richie on with pissing him off and wanting him to kill Tony and she was visibly angry and disappointed when Richie did not get the decision to have Tony killed in his favor.

[@Sisyphusquit]

@@JGJGAGSG wow . I think you're right. I kind of remember Janice pushing Ritchie to move on Tony now.

[@andrewpedicino1012]

Olivia was the worrrst bar none. At least Janice tried to contribute positively here and there.

[@jgmediting7770]

Janice tried to get better. Tony didn’t like it.

[@gregguralnik2512]

I think both Janice and Livia were horrendous, but lets not forhet Livia was Janice's mother, as well as Tony and Barbara's. Barbara Soprano got lucky she didnt end up like either of her older siblings, but Tony and Janice, are the products of how they were raised by Livia, and of course Johnny Soprano.

[@jakealter5504]

And tony had to deal with livia a lot longer than Janice did

[@gregguralnik2512]

@@jakealter5504 oh yeah, Big Time. On a side note, when I saw David Chase on an interview many years ago, and he said that he based Livia Soprano on his own mother, I nearly fell out of my chair. Especially when he said that Livia, was a carbon copy of his mother.

[@Boobalopbop]

Livia. Its one thing to abandon your kid. Some kids are better off without parents that don’t want them… Its another thing to try to have your child killed. That’s a level of evil I have never seen and haven’t seen since.

[@hithere4719]

Tony was already a murderer by that time…

[@CaptainColdyron222]

The fact that we all hated these two so much shows what a great job Aida Turturro and Nancy Marchand did playing these roles.

[@shawnbbunbbbybbb3942]

I’d like to see a video about who’s more annoying and unlikable between aj and meadow. I always hated aj and thought he was such a spoiled whiny crybaby, and he is, but every time I rewatch The show the more and more I grow to hate Meadow and realize that she was so much worse than I thought. She’s also spoiled and relies on her parents for everything while at the same time whenever she fights with them she always talks about how she’s an independent adult and can take care of herself, she criticizes her father for being a gangster And criticizes their whole lifestyle but whenever anyone else does she defends them and talks about them as if they’re noble heros that didn’t have a choice and were forced into that life. And even though she’s smart she definitely thinks she’s way smarter than she is the way she’s so condescending and talks down to people and seems to act as if some people r beneath her especially her parents who again completely support her and r the reason she’s even able to go to Columbia in the first place. So overall even though I think AJ is a spoiled whiny waste of life, I think Meadow is even worse; she is also spoiled and rude and a hypocrite

[@Dorpmuller]

Yeah... and she became a woke liberal. I'll take Janice over that.

[@davidjohn6323]

Livia was born in an era where depression was fun , so she has an excuse unlike Janice

[@N-xi2zh]

W0w you sound like Glen Grinwald. Nice channel too. Keep it up friendo.

[@ryanwilliams4223]

Livia by far she single handedly caused a War between Tony and Jnr manipulating both of them against each other which resulted in the death of Mikey those two black guys that other guy Tony shot on the boat she ruined Johnny's life when he tried to become more Legit putting him down she ruined Tony's life showing him no Love whatsoever despite Tony trying his hardest. Janice was bad but not Evil like her Mother. Lets not forget Livia spilt the beans on Tony burning down Artie's restaurant which nearly caused him to kill him.

[@haywoodjablomi2529]

As someone who worked in a second hand record shop for 10+ years, I can say with confidence that those records are absolutely worthless, when someone would bring that stuff in we'd never buy it because it's not worth the 5p they'd sell for to put the sticker on them, then we'd probably end up giving them away for free anyway cause nobody wants that shit

[@Boobalopbop]

I would imagine the only way records could be of value is if they were still factory sealed and never played. I can see that being of value to a collector. But some old lady’s crates of records she’s had and been playing since the 40s… Most of them are probably damaged anyway, no?

[@haywoodjablomi2529]

@@Boobalopbop that's a big maybe, but still more than likely worthless. There were so so so many copies pressed and bought in that era that there's a surplus still around and barely anyone that buys it, if anyone. Most people who have them are looking to get rid of them, so even sealed you're looking at maybe 50p or £1 max if you're lucky enough to sell it to anyone else other than someone looking to just have records for decoration on a shelf or put it on their wall or something. 10p shitters as we'd call em. You're right they'd definitely be in pretty rough condition, never cleaned, as they were so common back then a lot of people didn't look after the well, especially when their kids usually got hold of them and tried to put them on scratching em up

[@Boobalopbop]

@@haywoodjablomi2529 Daaaaaaamn. Not even worth the trip to the store 🤣

[@michaelpisani5962]

Livia kept to herself. Janice was a loose cannon.

[@julianstrayhornii6234]

Janice, she knew what life was like with her mom and chose to be this way

[@michaels5659]

What’s worse then trying to kill ur son 🤔🤔🤔

[@skillet9141]

It’s obvious that it’s Livia. Without Livia, there wouldn’t be a Janice.

[@cdcdrr]

Man, this is stiff competition. For about one episode, I thought maybe Janice could be a breath of fresh air. A breath of progressiveness in the stolid, murderous crime family. A cool aunt for Meadow, who wasn't afraid to talk sense in the midst of all these murderers and cheats. Boy, she did not take long to disappoint. She turned out to be just as much in it for herself. The incident with Svetlana really dropped my estimate of Janice at how much of a liar she was, when Svetlana honestly was more deserving of the money from selling those records for putting up with the crap Livia put her through. Her going from a long time Hindu to a smarmy evangelical also made my eyes roll out of my socket with how fake of a person she turned out to be. But it's when she started to manipulate Bobby by gaslighting his kids and replacing their mother with herself that she finally reached her lowest point. And whether she was actively trying or not, she is ultimately responsible for Bobby's death by pushing him further up the mafia ladder, as well as robbing his innocense when Tony ordered Bobby to do a hit, all because Bobby felt he had to defend Janice from Tony's petty needling insults. Livia on the other hand is a lot more 'real' in the sense that she's not as underhanded. Livia is very blatant about how miserable she is, and how much she wants to make it your problem. The warning signs are a lot more obvious, and if you're not her family and feel a sense of responsibility, you'll know very quickly to avoid her like the plague. The fact Tony put up with her and even let her come have dinner with his children shows an astounding amount of respect for his elders on his part. So overal, I'd rank Livia lower were it not for just how far she's willing to go to put Tony's life in danger. Planting the idea in Junior's head to have Tony killed, and actively sabotaging his friendship with Artie even when Tony has finally cut her out of his life. And even the possibility she'd become the star witness in the trial against her son that could put him away forever. Practically daring her son to find a way to have her silenced before she can do so, because she knows how the Cosa Nostra feels about members who talk. So even once you get away from her, she'll still find ways to hurt you if you don't realize soon enough to not ever go near this woman. But I got to give it to Janice. She is just so unlikeable. Livia might demand better treatment from Tony all the time, but she's not doing what she does for money. She does it to hurt people. Janice is just an ingrate. There's no purpose to what she does other than get rich quick, and she's not even very good or careful enough to run a con. She's a pathetic loser who hangs around ike a bad smell. Never awful enough for Tony to cut her out of his life, like Livia. But clearly somebody who's always dragging others down not to feel better about herself, but because she thinks there's something for her in it. People can admire cunning evil, but nobody likes stupid evil.

[@mikenogozones]

I will never understand how a horrible lady like Janice managed to get so many lovers and a husband like Bobby.

[@jakealter5504]

Bobby was the only good relationship she had in the series, Richie and Ralph were monsters

[@MsJackster88]

Hey ST... It's not a nursing home... It's a Retirement Community!! (as per Tony, Carmella, Janice, Junior, etc, etc LOL)

[@dr3dg352]

Um akshually, Janice dated Aaron in Season 3. 🤓 For real though, great video!

[@joergenmaster7530]

I feel like Janice and Livia are both equally evil, they have different ways being evil

[@chrishamer9263]

Without watching I’ll say Tony’s mum, she ordered a hit on him and was basically horrible to Tony blaming him for her failings and his fathers death

[@JayyJay92]

Tony wasn’t fatally shot. He survived.

[@The-Wolf-with-no-name]

Who's worse? Seriously? Janice may gave been a lot of things but she didn't try to have Tony killed. Livia literally tried to have her own son killed. Her and that other spiteful old git Junior. Hands down Livia is worse.

[@franktreppiedi2208]

The best scene was Carmellas' meltdown after Livias' service. Then her father starts. That was great.

[@mgene8093]

Livia no doubt

[@schrisdellopoulos9244]

"FATALLY?" Tony didn't die you stroonz! Oofa! This guy said that Junior shot Tony fatally, but T didn't die. Hey, he's a good kid, capable, but words don't come easy to him. ST doesn't know the difference between Notre Dame & Nostradamus.

[@litedawg]

yes.

[@jaytee0316]

Janice was so perfectly cast because I hated her guts.

[@epicphail2926]

Can someone remind me why everyone put their mothers into Green Grove?

[@jgmediting7770]

To have meetings as Tony didn’t think the fbi would bug it.

[@luvspaiste]

David Chase says they auditioned over 100 actresses for Livia and almost gave up on the role. Nancy Marchand walked in and just became Livia.

[@ncapone87]

Janice was terrible and manipulative, but Livia really tried to have her only son violently killed. So I would say Livia. While Janice is the only one between them who committed murder (as far as we know), Richie deserved it so I don't think it's as big.

[@CoreyT127]

Nobody deserves too die for hitting someone! If thats the case? Half the gf I’ve had deserve too die! For hitting me. She also was trying to get Richie to kill Tony!

[@ncapone87]

@@CoreyT127 I'm sure your ex girlfriends weren't psychopathic murderers and criminals. It's a little different

[@ninoninononinoni8795]

if she didn't kill richie right there, janice would have gotten herself into a spiral of abuse, that's how they start. so doesn't matter how shitty i think janice is as a person, she was 100% on the right on killing that bastard@@CoreyT127

[@marquesjohnson6359]

Livia was the worse but Janice wasn't far behind I always imagined she'd get worse as she got older until she's just as awful as livia

[@mickleyinc20]

it's livia, all the way without question