Who Were the Philistines?

[@kathryncrowleybryan5844]

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[@silviavas1]

Jsjaja its history, no religion

[@recane999]

Best explanation of Biblical history on youtube

[@unrecognizedtalent3432]

Yep!

[@garymensurati1631]

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[@ObjectiveEthics]

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[@wakingupcrosseyed]

Nailed it. Love it when Pastor John goes off script.

[@VSP4591]

Well done and coherent explanations about Philistines. Thank you John.

[@mrlume9475]

Great content as always!

[@madestone9725]

Very interesting. Thank you! Your knowledge and ability to tell history/religion in way that's easy to understand is admirable ❤

[@johnweiner]

The number 40 seems to be very popular in the Old Testament. The deluge rained for 40 days and 40 nights, the Jew wandered in the desert for 40 years, the Tribes of Israel strayed from virtue every 40 years, etc. I wonder if 40 just meant a long time, whether measured in days, nights, hours, years.

[@unrecognizedtalent3432]

I think they thought of it as 1 generation

[@johnweiner]

Really? If so, their idea of the length of time of a generation is/was about twice the current rough measure of 20-30 years.@@unrecognizedtalent3432

[@Swimant]

Good points and great breakdown. Some interpretation issues but I’lI give you a sold 8.9. Thanks

[@reinotsurugi]

Denathor, the Steward of Gondor speaks to us on the Philistines.

[@AiCinemAddict]

Excellent lecture. Thank you.

[@Kingstanding23]

Would you like to do a lecture on the translation of the bible? There are quite a few passages that are misinterpreted due to translation.

[@Sean-i6z8o]

Nazarites weren't supposed to go near dead bodies but an exception must've made for Samson because he'd certainly piled them up.

[@4everseekingwisdom690]

I love your lectures but, I've studied esoteric symbolism for years with special emphasis on mythology. I understand this isn't a forum for comparative myth structure but I would like to point out two things.. 1 ) there's are 12 judges just as there are tribes of Israel 12 imans in Islam 12 new testament apostles in fact in every religion you'll find the 12 just as you'll find the 7 (samson had 7 locks of hair) in the Jewish Temple you have the minorah with 7 branches and a table with 12 shewbread loaves.. Hebrew itself has 7 double letters and 12 single (with 3 mother letters) all significant of the same thing.. the 12 divisions of zodiac and the seven planets of antiquity . This idea was held universally in the ancient world and is embedded in every religion whether you see it or not.. I should also point out that Samson is identical in the theme to the story of Hercules ..

[@sunny3907]

So three religions that descended from a common culture in the same piece of geography use the same symbols and myths. WHAT A COINCIDENCE!!! And no,its not embedded in every ancient religion,lmao. Hinduism and Chinese religions have none of these symbolisms.

[@dylanroberts3666]

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[@richardkennedy8481]

I knew a Phillis Stein. And she didn't look Jewish.

[@langreeves6419]

It's been interesting to me that the judges in the book of judges are actually military leaders. Nothing is said about them actually being judges Except for the woman It is explicitly written that this woman Deborah sat under a tree and passed judgments on legal disputes. So she was in authority over men! So the ancient israelites were not Southern Baptist or Catholics!

[@andrewsuryali8540]

The word "judge" in English used to have a different meaning as one who IMPLEMENTS justice, not the one who... well... judges. So think Judge Dredd instead of Judge Judy.

[@langreeves6419]

@@andrewsuryali8540 but Deborah judged in the modern sense of the word, unlike the other judges in that time period

[@andrewsuryali8540]

@@langreeves6419 Yes, but that's her function as a PROPHETESS. What made her a "judge" was her warmongering, not her day job. Samuel was the same. What made him the last judge wasn't his prophecizing and legal work but his leadership of the Israeli war effort, first as their theocratic warlord then as advisor to their first king.

[@langreeves6419]

​@@andrewsuryali8540 I'm so sorry you can't understand my point. Enjoy the lectures and cheerio!

[@andrewsuryali8540]

@@langreeves6419 No, you're the one missing the whole point. Judges is about the warlords who lead Israel in the time before monarchy. What made one a judge was the warmongering. Deborah holding court is not the important part of the story. Other women in the Bible could hold court. In fact Jezebel was denigrated in the Bible exactly because that's what she did. What made Deborah special was her status as a warleader - something no other biblical woman ever does. Think! What was more emancipating in the eyes of the people the book was written for? The part where she held court as the wife of Lappidoth or the one where she organized and lead the Israelite army with Barak as her deputy? You're entirely missing the authority that actually mattered in the story to the people the story was intended for.

[@tbq011]

Greeks from Crete. Friends of Hestia , Philister.

[@Kid_Ikaris]

Reminds me about what happened with the word epicurean.

[@milanlukic1063]

Where did you get that Serbs and Croats turkic people?

[@emilbordon1329]

Weren’t they the amalgamation of people from the western part of the Mediterranean and indigenous people living in Canaan?

[@joanapira365]

Also Palasa Was a sea Ionion coast city and between height mountains and beautiful reefs its symbol was half man had fish cause of this geography.

[@emilbordon1329]

As a person of nominal education and culture I endorse this lecture even though I’m hearing it in stupid 😂

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

They were Greek, weren't they? {:o:O:}

[@miyojewoltsnasonth2159]

3:18 That looks interesting.

[@andrewsuryali8540]

The relationship between the Hyksos and the Philistines is geographical. According to the Egyptian chronicles, after their expulsion the Hyksos retreated to the area that later became Philistia. So technically the people that the Peleset conquered (or were given as subjects by Egypt) may have been descended from the Hyksos. By extension, since the Philistines themselves assimilated with the locals, you can argue that the Philistine population was mainly composed of descendants of the Hyksos.

[@zelenisok]

1:02:15 Mixup of Balkan nations haha, its the Bulgars who were a Turkic people who migrated from Eurasian steppe into the Balkan area and assimilated into the Slavs who were already living there. After that happened Bulgarian is a Slavic language, and Bulgarians consider themselves to be South Slavs. Serbs and Croats are just Slavs that settled there earlier when Slavs were settling that area, tho interestingly for Serbs its very likely that the name Serb is an exonym, from the Latin word for slave /servant - servus. If thats the case its a weird reverse situation of how the English word slave etymologically comes from Slav (which is a Slavic endonym coming most likely from slovo - speech, language).

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Fancy seeing you here! Lol

[@zelenisok]

haha. yeah, i've been watching this channel for a while. i've mentioned and recommended it a few times in ch rooms..

[@milanlukic1063]

Serbs and Croats Turkic people?First time heart about this.Bulgarian and Hungarian yes...I guess we are all same for them.

[@zelenisok]

@@milanlukic1063 where did i say serbs and croats are turkic peoples? 🤔

[@veryoldjohnson]

The presence of the Philistines blows the Exodus, and thus Jewish history, completely out of the water.

[@adams5414]

How so? The Cannanites are noted in the Exodus story, which is why the Israelites do not immediately enter the land

[@veryoldjohnson]

@@adams5414 : Is there a non-Biblical reference to the 'EXODUS"? Pretty sure that the 'Exodus' was nothing more than a series of oral campfire tales, told and re-told by family related Canaanite hillbilly shepherds.

[@gary_stavropoulos]

@@adams5414 the philistines were a part of the sea peoples that were settled in Canaan between 1180-1150 bce. At the time Canaan was part of Egypt and had been for many centuries prior. So stories set before that time that include the philistines are wrong and the Israelites can’t flee Egypt in the exodus by staying in Egypt.

[@gloriathompson4010]

So who are the Israelites

[@veryoldjohnson]

John/Leandro, Why do knowledgeable people always tiptoe around the discussions involving the Philistines? Are they so pivotal to the Israelite story? Clearly the Bible is in error, or is it? Did God get it wrong when issuing his exit directions? I would appreciate a definitive, logical explanation!!!

[@veryoldjohnson]

Am I asking for too much?

[@CoreyJason]

@@veryoldjohnsonyou may need to go feed yourself. Entitlement isn’t a good look for anyone.

[@veryoldjohnson]

@@CoreyJason : What does that mean?

[@veryoldjohnson]

@@bobbagshawedeorlinc4884: Lots and lots of verbiage, but no answer!!!

[@JosephersMusicComedyGameshow]

Samson, Hercules and Gilgamesh are the same story synchronized through different lenses but I always wonder you was the original hero of the story which city was this actually about each original five cities would take the hero story and put their patron saint as the hero of story so who made this story before Gilgamesh?

[@kankikankkinen2670]

Sometimes city is person and other round

[@premium2681]

​@@kankikankkinen2670say whut?!

[@mwmann]

Where are your facts for your claims ?

[@williamgrosbach4237]

(0:00:11) Perhaps you meant deprecates rather than depreciates.

[@claforestrie]

Are the hebrews from Sumer or from Canaan?

[@yerossyle]

Moral of the story. Don‘t marry someone who God says you shouldn‘t be marrying.

[@ConservativeArabNet]

How Gertrude Bell , thought and named this land expanded Palestine!! After WW1

[@joanapira365]

Palasa . a region in west south west Ballcans. in antiquity many criminals were kicked out of there to nowadays north of Israel and Lebanon just like the ex British in Australia. also many of them were banned to come back home or they would get killed if so. the word in Greek is extraocated

[@disjointedbuilds8107]

So… based on the map… the West Bank?

[@adams5414]

Yup, I just realized that is why they must have kept Jewish settlements in the West Bank but removed from Gaza. I'm Jewish and didn't realize until this war, how it is actually 'reverse apartheid.' Yes all Jews admit that a majority of us left and then came back, for various reasons from forced expulsion to economic opportunities or repressive regimes etc..

[@minercontrol9382]

Isn't the philistines the descendants of canaan, the son of ham?

[@SteepSix]

There is no second story of Goliath being killed... You're quoting 2 Samuel 21 at 28:24 - where it clearly says "Elhanan the son of Jaare-oregim, a Bethlehemite, slew the *brother* of Goliath, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver's beam."... Why do you do this?

[@klarobskyr]

You're quoting KJV. I don't speak Biblical Hebrew, but in every translation in every language I speak it IS just Goliath and not "the brother of". There are more recent English translations that also agree with that. KJV is a pretty flawed source, I wouldn't be surprised if that was a way to streamline the continuity of the biblical narrative

[@SteepSix]

@@klarobskyr Then why didn't they iron out the other wrinkles and more obvious contradictions like the ones we find in Chronicles. Also, I have two Hebrew versions here of this 2 Sam 21:19 verse and indeed one says simply "Golyat the Gitti", and the other (Orthodox) says "...the brother of Golyat...". But again, I don't see why any effort would be made to address this little conflict while none is made to the contradiction of who moved David to take a census... God or Satan..? I mean, that's a pretty big conflict!

[@whatwhat3432523]

@@SteepSix He has a whole video talking about this topic.

[@SteepSix]

@@whatwhat3432523 What's the video, do you recall? I'll watch it

[@BusbyTreeSurgery]

oo7 is Tubal-cain

[@claforestrie]

Does current palestiniens DNA matches Canaanites or hebrew DNA!

[@fastballflakes5385]

1:03:43

[@christiansmith-of7dt]

I think people are afraid to help a guy like me

[@emilbordon1329]

Who are the Palestinians?

[@claforestrie]

Is herew a canananite language or a sumerian one 😑

[@rosemariecaras3566]

I am not convinced.

[@sulongenjop7436]

Like Israelites, Philistines are also descendants of Adam, Cain, and Noah!

[@marcelmolenaar5684]

According to Egyptian hyroglyphs and scripts the Israelites were an African nomad warrior tribe without a king

[@sulongenjop7436]

@@marcelmolenaar5684 Israelites comes from the term Israel, another name of Jacob the grandson of Abraham. Israelites are descendants of Jacob through his 12 sons!

[@marcelmolenaar5684]

@@sulongenjop7436 Israelites were desert people. They wanted a forest. Israel means forest. They went to war with every tribe whom lived in a forest. They came from Africa and were a nomadic warrior tribe without a King. Israelites have ( or had ) nothing to do with Jews. Egyptian hyroglyphs and scripts show that 3000 years ago the Israelites attacked the Palestinians. ( Out of jealousy ) The Jews based their religion on this plus a lot of other things like King David has a statue in Georgia for a reason. The Giants where King David fought against were tall buildings with only an attic. When the native people were attacked by the Ghazaaren they hid on the attic and the ladder was pulled up. Judea / Judas / Yahudi meant dangerous people. Judas as a traitor to the teachings of Jesus Christ. Judas or Judea was added to the bible by the Lavra church. Sorry to inform you about where the name Palestine comes from. Humans first came from Alkebulan ( Africa ) Alkebu - Mother Lan - Mankind From there Mankind migrated to the rest of the world. It was the very beginning when humans stayed on a land and begun agriculture. Then started to make weapons from sticks and stones for hunting. Palaios - Era / Period Stine - Stand Lithos - Stone Palestine is the first land in history where humankind stayed instead of being nomadic. Mankind built the first villages and cities in Palestine. Palestine became the Holy land because it was the Mother of civilization

[@denaisaacthiswasgreat.thum7598]

He sure plays around alot with dead animals.

[@denaisaacthiswasgreat.thum7598]

Sounds a bit unclean to me.😂.

[@JodyLake-rl2jl]

Philistine DNA comes fro Italy and Greece

[@mikeballard8404]

The Jews have a God, the Philistines have gods.

[@joegibbs1454]

Lost me at :22

[@InTheRhettRow]

you need to read and get out more.

[@joegibbs1454]

@@InTheRhettRow philistine is in ethnic slur? Wtf? Never heard that

[@whatwhat3432523]

​@@joegibbs1454What?

[@davidmccauley8034]

Philistines were called Palestinians as a way to insult them. 😂

[@denaisaacthiswasgreat.thum7598]

Lions , Donkeys.

[@brandonstanley9125]

explains the weirdness in the bible. It was written by the hillbillies of the era.

[@PeterShieldsukcatstripey]

Don't cut your hair - vrill?

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

Yeah, because the Vril have been around since 1000 BC, not just 1871 AD. {:o:O:}

[@dru7277]

The Germans.

[@kumarg3598]

Who didnt exist 3000 years ago

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

They were Greek. {:o:O:}

[@kumarg3598]

@@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 if i had to be specific, id say phoenician

[@eddiehathcock-cw9nv]

They are called the Palestinians now

[@CoreyJason]

Are they the same people or just living in a land once lived in by the Philistines. Sincere question.

[@elef951]

No they arent,the ancestors of philostines are greeks from crete

[@whatwhat3432523]

Philistines stopped existing a very long time ago. "Palestinians" is also a new term from the late 1870s describing the few arabs, jews and Christians who lived in the backwater called palestine in lesser syria under the ottomans.

[@KBNgeorgiafirst]

Never look for Bible history from the mouth of a Bible skeptic and kaabalist

[@AngelSanchez-dw4gs]

There is very little history an a lot of lies lies lies originally this collection of plagiarized stories was called BIBLIES.

[@whatwhat3432523]

There is no bible history, its called theology.

[@KBNgeorgiafirst]

@@whatwhat3432523 no, it's called kaabalism... mysticism... mystery babylon... whichever you prefer, it's all the same.

[@joanapira365]

Gol I atht=bitter mouthed. probably he was boasting a lot about his self and called people names and swore a lot.

[@marcelmolenaar5684]

According to Egyptian hierroglyphs and scripts the Phillistines lived in Palestine from before the Stone-age. But they became the Phillistines because Phillistines means Son of the Stone Age. Sorry to inform you about where the name Palestine comes from. Humans first came from Alkebulan ( Africa ) Alkebu - Mother Lan - Mankind From there Mankind migrated to the rest of the world. It was the very beginning when humans stayed on a land and begun agriculture. Then started to make weapons from sticks and stones for hunting. Palaios - Era / Period Stine - Stand Lithos - Stone Palestine is the first land in history where humankind stayed instead of being nomadic. Mankind built the first villages and cities in Palestine. Please read my other comment that explains more...

[@whatwhat3432523]

Thats nonsense!

[@marcelmolenaar5684]

@@whatwhat3432523 Another fact; Sodom was the first city built by the Phillistines. The Homosapiens ( The first ) were born by Sodomie. The Phillistines were called sodomites because they had a lot of sex and enjoyed life so much. They invented alcoholic drinks and were drunk a lot having parties. From Alkebulan their came a tribe, forrest-people whom set the city on fire. Gamorrah means setting a city on fire. Israel means forrest ! Israelites - Forrest - people. ( From Africa ! ) Uganda ! The first homosapiens became homosapiens for the reason they were forced to become more intelligent in order to defend themselves and because of they had to become smarter to provide the city for more food. Not by hunting but by have cattle. Because the location on a trading-route their intelligence increased. All of this history is "written" in Hieroglyphs in Egypt for instance.

[@satiricgames2129]

Not the palestinianz

[@Israel85324]

THE PHILISTINES WERE BLACK…THEY CAME FROM NOAH SON HAM. HAM WAS THROWING FATHER OF THE DARK RACES! All of these false images of ppl in the Bible is mind boggling 😂

[@EricToro-ef4hr]

Palestinians that's who they are.

[@whatwhat3432523]

I think you are confused. I can see why its incredibly easy to jump to conclusions when you lack/exclude several thousands years of context and knowledge. But your statement is to say it bluntly incredibly false.

[@ianmarlow805]

They are the Tories.

[@kevinroyall8829]

😂 Rishi Sunak being a good example

[@the_son_of_man]

Philistines are pelstianians