Who Would Hack the Largest U.S. Bank, But Not Steal a Penny?🎙Darknet Diaries Ep. 76: Knaves Out

In 2013, 83 million user accounts at JPMorgan Chase had been compromised by an attack so sophisticated, authorities assumed it was a nation state actor -- especially because no money had been stolen. But the true story is so much weirder.
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[@louis9222]

I dont get how these videos arent more popular. Theyre so intersting and well made i love listening to them while working

[@JackRhysider]

Shhh it'll be our little secret.

[@UltimateGaming-ih]

​@@JackRhysider I like our little secret. One day I'll be on your podcast though. I am going to make the next big leap for processing power. It'll be in the neighborhood of a 1000 times better than processors today are.

[@UltimateGaming-ih]

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[@Naster001]

Probably because there is not visual but I love them very much.

[@UltimateGaming-ih]

@@Naster001 As do I love the way they are, I get to visualize all of the stories in my head, and that is so much more fun than watching something. The little graphics he has makes me so happy to look at too, its simple and nice and always matches the theme, but while being fun to stare at for hours, its yet not distraction from my mind watching the motion picture going on in my head.

[@CurrentlyBlazed]

When I was growing up in the 90's, there was a website I loved to visit. Its motto was 'The information insemination'. I learned from that website that a hacker was just a curious person, who likes to know how systems worked. That system can be how people behave. It could be a lock on a door. It could be a computer network. Maybe it's your automobile? With that frame in mind, it makes total sense someone would break into a system just to peek around.

[@richardcompton6702]

Yeah but people smart enough to do that are definitely smart enough to know the potential consequences, even IF you didn't do anything wrong; take Aaron Schwartz for example. So the more criminal the act, the more powerful of amotive is needed to overcome the human tendency to risk aversion.. There's a few tried and true motives with money, influence, or revenge being far and away the most common/powerful motives.

[@notsam498]

@@richardcompton6702 assuming that someone capable of doing that will be the same as most people is a bit of a risk. A lot of hackers, scientist and engineers have done risky things in the name of curiosity. With basically no other motive. Not every person is risk adverse and even more some are wired where other things override risk aversion.

[@richardcompton6702]

@@notsam498 Sure, but in the name of "curiosity", those people aren't of malicious intent and carefully weigh the risks most often while taking care to be considerate of the potential consequences.. Again, Aaron Schwartz, his motivation was curiosity i.e. "Why the hell are free resources restricted from public access behind a paywall?" then i.e. "Well, I have a way to get them once for free and provide them to people for free.. can I do this and improve the broken system?" then i.e. "Sure I can.. and considering the legalities of it, it shouldn't be a problem (ethically at least) but just to be safe, let's run the script from an untraceable laptop left in the maintenance closet of MIT to cope with any unforeseeable risks"... I mean, he knew somewhat what he was up against and took basic precautions... Security cams still ID'd him, and the outages to MIT accessing the (Justia db I think it was) caused by blacklisting due to volume of requests translated to "financial damages", federal investigators pulling security footage, the light being turned on when he changed the hard-drives on the download laptop revealing his face on the footage, and his subsequent heavy-handed prosecution... all because of the all-too-rare NOBLE motivation of Justice.. IF he were of true criminal intent, you can bet he would have committed greater consideration to hiding his identity (i.e. check the maintenance closet for security cams) and likely would never have been caught rather than doing the bare minimum to mask himself (likely because "well, I'm doing a good thing anyways so even if I AM caught, how bad could it be? Shit, they should probably thank me." .. *Commits suicide facing hundreds of years during prosecution for correcting a critical error in the system.*

[@richardcompton6702]

@@notsam498 I will also say, that for those who are motivated by desperation? I think this motive may be the most common of all, the root of most crime in reality, and is a much less likely motivator to result in "burying the lead" so to speak. Can't feed yourself and you have the ability to steal BTC? You're going to prioritize the money you need and, once that's secure and your family won't starve, THEN you'll care about protecting your identity. Before then, how much value is your identity worth if you're going to likely die of poverty before anyone catches you for something that might not even work to begin with? Compare this to the career thief/hacker... Knowing full-well the damage they're doing and looking towards their 3rd house or ferrari with already 2m in stolen crypto stashed.. Well, they're infinitely less likely to get caught as their focus is the crime itself and, thus, will be inclined much more to put forth time and consideration into getting away with it BECAUSE they don't NEED to do it...THERE'S ALWAYS A MOTIVATION and it ALWAYS informs the actions and patterns of behavior of the individuals committing the act, my guy.... Nowadays, hacking is infinitely more complicated than 10 years ago.. You have to be better than the best hacker 10 years ago in terms of body and breadth of pre-requisite knowledge to even have an application for a penetration testing position seen and certified in ways that didn't even think of existing then. and then you need to BE about 3-5 levels better than that in practice to actually get on.. If you're good enough to gain unauthorized access and peek around in a non-chalant manner, then you're more than educated enough to know that if there's a single shred of logging enabled on that system and anything ever happens to it before those logs rotate OR it (or you) happens to be in one of many big-brother surveillance states with monitoring on the ISP's and larger regional networks then the evidence of your unauthorized access can be there for YEARS after you just kicked in the door to have a look around and left and you could be prosecuted for simply doing that because someone ELSE came a year later and chose to actually compromise the system.. If you do this stuff, you know just how persistent a digital footprint can be and you don't just take risks like that.. Lose your certification? Your reputation? etc? All because you were curious? JS, nah, you'd double-wrap it, proxychains tor into tor again while cycling your nodes every 3 minutes and then into a series of paid proxies (paid with BTC or skimmed credit cards to throw off anybody in case they did pull the financial records for that service) and/or previously compromised zombie computers in strategically chosen countries selected for their lack of coordination with international law-enforcement from a cash-bought second-hand laptop with a VPN from another state in a coffee shop 3 towns over so that there's 12+ red-herrings leading to 3 separate dead-ends should anybody with resources try and sus you out before you even try to breach a target out of "curiosity" just to "take a look around" bro... Not that even then it's worth the risk but still.

[@DaWhiteTyger]

'No one can stop the Information insemination!"

[@FOLLISHE3]

Man i watched all ur podcasts nothing left to see

[@jacks6910]

Yet

[@sabre22b]

LOL. Like...."that's everything covered. (Looks down list)....hmm...yes......yip....yep.....k. yes, he did everything. " Look forward to the future.

[@SeanFortune1]

Same, I have started rewatching them haha

[@goosenotmaverick1156]

I'm still working my way through lol

[@Dave-cx1tz]

That's the only disappointing thing, wish I could watch them all for the first time again. This channel is str8 fyre

[@ArcturusBitcoin]

Always releasing new videos at the stroke of midnight. Thanks Jack for what you do.

[@Thefreakyfreek]

Migt be his moring

[@keithbarlow9701]

This has been my favorite podcast since I discovered it. The longer these stories go on, the crazier and weirder they become. All the twists and turns and bizarre happenings make for some captivating tales. The animations and general aesthetic are nicely done as well.

[@ArcturusBitcoin]

Agreed I have listened to them all and I am about to start relistening. I am interested in building servers, pentesting and new tech in general. This is a great jumping off point. Also Mr. Robot.

[@keithbarlow9701]

@@ArcturusBitcoin Just started Mr. Robot. Seems pretty good so far. Thanks for the recommendation.

[@effyjonz]

I usually watch the episode in full right when it comes out but, I've been busy and eager to finally finish this episode. Seriously, you are the king of hacking stories. I appreciate you 1000%!

[@othmanetamagart1555]

Jack! I work in cyber security for a huge corp, and I do drive 4 hours per week to go to and from work, whenever I get out of my garage I choose an episode and I drive through the highway and for some reason I don’t even know how I got to the office building. I love the show and I’ve been a fan since hearing the story of the guy who robbed the wrong bank in Beirut, Lebanon 😂. Never knew that you had Patreon, I’ll go there right now.

[@gabbyn978]

For me, there is still one question left: How did the stolen addresses end up in a darknet dump? Else, all the scams would have gone on indefinitely...

[@Mavendow]

Somehow I think they got hacked. I don't see why they would sell themselves out, since it was working so well.

[@nomadshiba]

watch the whole thing

[@gabbyn978]

@@nomadshiba The only explanation that I noticed, was that hackers use their catch multiple times. That is a bit vague. Did I miss anything?

[@abitofyourbrain]

Man…wow I haven’t found vindication or strength in many things in the last three years as I have struggled to regain my footing in the midst of such complicated matters and you have been like a shining light in a very dark circumstance and I think that you are not having nearly enough praise I really hope that you’re staying safe and I’m not a religious person but God bless you Like 1000 blessings and peace and returns in your life dude You are worth more than all the tea in China all the gold in Texas and 1 million trophies or something ❤ Thank you so much for everything that you post And I just hope that at the end of the day all of this works out if it does it’ll be because of people like you I often hear where one person falls another one rises but I’ve also heard a more poetic story about a fungus oddly enough …what I’ve seen in the last two years is a lot more like a fungus and it’s really beautiful thank you for being part of that Massive Effort Intentional or not ❤

[@the_good_news]

Post more bro it’s because of you that I chose this major and so far I have 4.0 in everything

[@LutherMahoney]

same, i'm going back to school in 2024 for cybersecurity just off this guy alone.

[@the_good_news]

The motivation is outstanding the episode that changed me is the one when Jack interviewed the guy that won the defcon black badge 4 times

[@dezgames5976]

@@the_good_news can you link the episode?

[@the_good_news]

It’s episode 43 called ppp

[@SM7SM7SM7]

Same! I not only went back to school because of this podcast, but I connected with a hiring manager about it as a topic of convo and got a job offer.

[@Only_Sleep]

A quick game: Drink every time Jack says “JP Morgan Chase”

[@SharjilPrince]

😝💀

[@ArcturusBitcoin]

You gotta do one of these every episode.

[@nuetrino]

(fills coffee cup) Lets go! 😄

[@goosenotmaverick1156]

Id be passed out already lol I'm not even 10 minutes in yet, either. Haha

[@goosenotmaverick1156]

​@@nuetrino that's a better idea than where I went with it. I indeed already have a cup of coffee lol that'll do

[@Idle125]

This is so far my favourite episode 💯 Gary is truly a mastermindnd G

[@TikeMyson69]

The level of greed is off the charts. I'd be happy with just enough money to live comfortably and the knowledge it won't run out. Probably that's why I'm not rich tbh.

[@randomshs]

I wish I had enough money to live comfortably lol

[@TheBUGZNTA]

Once you get the money to "Live comfortably" The definition changes. That is how we got where we are.

[@gstynchula]

So bro, I just discovered you last week. A++! Really, I love your material. Excellent work! Keep it up.

[@PATCHEZinSPACE]

I neeeeed moooar darknet diaries!!!! Lol great episode jack!! I can’t wait for the next one❤❤❤❤

[@DaWhiteTyger]

LOL I did one summer. Worked out of Charlotte, NC and took over as administrator to Bank of America. They were so embarrassed that it was so easy for me to get in and take over their whole Primary Active Directory Domain, they just asked how I did it and I told them if they made this problem go away, I would tell them and walk. They had no choice but to agree because I could have easily then told as many people as possible it was a NT 4.0 security flaw. Especially, since I didn't do anything else to their network, nor PC systems. I knew I'd get caught, I just wanted to know how and what they would do about it IF someone were to threaten their market value with a vulnerability. All it was was the emergency recovery disk. ANY NT 4.0 system could generate one and ALL worked to open up the admin accounts. So, I had NT 4.0 and hacked BofA without anyone in the world knowing the wiser. That's a story I can keep with me and re-tell til my grave just for teh lulz.

[@HackSyndicate]

Commenting just because I really appreciate this podcast. Thank you! I will always thumbs up, comment, w/e/ you need to keep these going. You're the best

[@raven2059]

Very beautiful. Like going into a time machine. Thank you for your work. Can't wait to tell this 97 year old lady I care for about this :).

[@heliosslime8846]

jack you be giving out good sauce in every video. BEST PODCAST EVER!!!

[@wwgbert]

As always, just killing the content game. Thanks!

[@shibbidydoowop]

I think the element of secrecy/'pushing the envelope' in hacking, social engineering, system manipulation etc, adds to the addictive nature of these activites for certain personality subsets. A lot of people seem to be locked in on this podcast and for good reason. We can vicariously peak into a somewhat hidden world that has its own culture. That increases the allure to find out exactly what its like in this 'space' that spans the range of harmless fun hobby or malicious/illegal act.

[@0therun1t21]

35:40 I's hard to pay attention whith Devo playing, had to rewind a few times. Thank you for another highly educational episode, I can't get enogh.

[@morgengabe1]

Imagine being so enthralled by jp morgan that you wish JR would cut the chase

[@iPsychlops]

Love your podcast. The way you present them is so easy to follow.

[@emera1750]

Early morning treat to listen to

[@thesuperflexibleflyingtaoi8866]

Jack Rhysider is the reason I went into Blue teaming and I love it!

[@charlesyoung52]

You're really good at this, your storytelling skills are really good across all of your videos

[@victornderu143]

I loved this long one! Keep them coming.

[@Ippo209]

Keep it coming jack you’re doing great

[@bjorno207]

i just found your channel and i’m loving it keep up the work

[@jonnyfatboy7563]

incredible to listen to as always 👊✌

[@RiversJ]

Age old story of getting burned by their insatiable greed, but then if they weren't greedy they probably would never have engaged in a criminal enterprise.

[@marvnch]

Every single episode is so gripping and interesting, keep up the good work! It kept getting crazier and crazier... weird that the hacker didn't set their sights higher.

[@jwinnfield9192]

this is an absolute belter, love it 😊

[@FeloniousSavage]

What do you get when you mix a black kid from an African tribe with a hacker? You get a SpearFisher that's also a SpearChucker.... 😂😂😂

[@mikeh4068]

yes!!!!!!!!!! thank god for a new episode!!!

[@jhh1451]

Corporate challenge isnt just used by JPM Its just organized by them. A lot of companys participate and register their employees on that site

[@Your_Sweater_]

Hell yeah! Love the pod brother!

[@yuglesstube]

This is the best youtube channel. And there are some very good ones.

[@jamesonbusch5022]

Jack, my boy, your stories are my sustenance.

[@melia707]

Luv for the late night pod video edit :V - sec sigg tyrannus; a patron Ps. Have you done work or been involved with 2600 or HOPE by extension? :] and funny story with me 2 steps from them after realizing parent's friendship with 'Suzy Thunder' put me quite funnily barely steps away from Kevin M-×-×-× and that not calling my connections and ie. running groups with Holly, rip. Funny realization. Interested if you see this and have memories with the zine and or their events (so sad to not have money for a ticket to one this weekend, hecc) Cheers and loved listening to the bonus Dylan ep.

[@johnstevens9673]

Everyone in federal cases cooperates and becomes an informant because the penalties in the federal prison system are insane and they would get massive amounts of time.

[@roberthodges3646]

sooo under rated you should have 6 million subs

[@adrianalexandrov7730]

I would bet that for JP it was more profitable to call it National Security threat to keep it under the rug, not just their security mindset

[@carlossalazar796]

Great and very informative video!!

[@Idle125]

Jack please do an episode about iSpoof fraud Many thanks and support on upcoming shows 👍🥳👏

[@steelokameni2930]

Who’s the guy who drove for 8 hours to go get some milk? We gotta tell his son we know where his dad is

[@kevinmarterson]

Still searching for the cow

[@Fukyallfukz]

🤣😂

[@TheEvanBennett]

Been a fan since the OG days when you jad the guy who havked online gamea and sold gold rofl. Funnily enough I am plauing Ultima Online, one of those games this bery second. A player made shard called UOForever set in thebtime that guy and I played all those yeats ago : ) I still love the show and thanks for all the wonderful time Ive listened and thay youve put in!

[@eddieweaver7570]

CAN IU PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO A KZbin VIDEO ON THE STORY (The KGB, the Computer and Me ). I PROMISE U WILL LOVE THIS

[@amrozein8683]

Im surprised that jack have not covered solar wind hack yet

[@DigitalNomadOnFIRE]

Ahh "Barcelona, Spain", thanks for the clarification, I thought you meant "Barcelona, Germany"

[@johndee3830]

Dude there's just soo much going on right now your guna have your next decade worked out for you man lol gl in life

[@tdtrecordsmusic]

Holy CRAP that was a wild one !!

[@xinhuawang5969]

why wikipedia don't have any info on the 2 people

[@jt4513]

"Cyber Vore" 💀💀💀

[@williamthompson2941]

Opps. Crimea belongs to Russia, they gave it to the Ukraine when Ukraine was in USSR to provide jobs etc. at USSR's major naval base; so in a way Russia was merely taking back what was theirs's, and only did so after the CIA backed coup in Ukraine threatened Russia's use of the base. Otherwise, thanks for another great show from a dedicated listener

[@SampleRate-w2w]

I hope we don't make the same mistake with the collider 😅 THX jack

[@IncomingRedacted-rv1tv]

Classified. The last 21 days of closing. (Hack-Intercept Electronics)

[@jonyemm]

Thanks for the content man. I like the channel. Binged it all and caught up a couple weeks ago. Woo. Did i get first for once? 10 secs after upload. Not like i care. Ill say i dont. But maybe i dont.

[@ratish121]

agree

[@thulanimbatha8833]

Why can't I like this story twice 😂

[@modernmistyk4341]

Not sure why you're so surprised he was greedy. I mean his last name was Shalom

[@raatexploit5041]

Why can't I download this particular podcast?

[@dogbog99]

Awesome job Jack

[@officialghetty]

Listening in Vegas 🙏

[@Jav202x]

This is one of the best stories!! Bc I can relate to this

[@antoniocampos3067]

The Florida man 😂

[@PivotF00t]

You certainly don't need advice for your show, it's a quality show, I look forward to hearing it. Just this one thing... I think you could use, either a quick opening cue or a pause or something at the start of the show. Not me, to be sure, but SOME people browse quietly enough to mess up youtube's progress tracker, so if the network pauses or something and the episode restarts, you might not be able to tell. Maybe a creepy little whisper "....D a r k n e t D i a r i e s ...". :-D

[@GhidoraKidora]

It sounds a lot like a coincidence, that some employees quit right b4 the hack. Would they have the skill to pull that hack off. I don't believe in coincidences, if I was law enforcement I would start with those that quit right b4. It seems like a inside job.

[@DaSlotho]

3:01 dammmmmmmmmmmmmmm thats so smart of an idea

[@Coondawgwoopwoop]

This episode is wild…

[@DaSlotho]

56:34 thats actually pretty smart

[@danielgraham8266]

Adds?!?!?!??!!!! Aww man love how ur vids always had no anoyying adds when I’m trying to sleep having to skip thru lame adds

[@th33ng]

I'm not driving like 8hrs, but working like 8hrs to hear more awesome Darknet Diaries 💻

[@HillbillyIslandLife]

Love the show and im a computard!

[@XerrolAvengerII]

who was this mysterious god hacker?

[@phillydee3592]

They were clever,but also damn stoopid😂🤣 South Africa also always involved where shady shit is..

[@iamvinku]

This episode is one of your funniest yet. Gary has an extremely skilful and overpowered hacker at his command that can easily slice through large corporate networks of well funded and well protected companies like a hot knife through butter and all he does with that power is silly stuff like getting an email list to send out spam!

[@bunny-cu9ni]

I wanna know how this guy got his skills because that was impressive

[@paradoxnafi]

I have reacted that last episode. Was it like 50+ hours!!!

[@Bcowzz]

Jack, thanks bro

[@meepk633]

Seems like a lot of work to get sales leads, right?

[@110jmartin011]

so in 2013 66% of the population was also issued new SSN right? right?

[@randykitchleburger2780]

Hahahahhahahhahhhahahah

[@DBI-i1i]

Some of my favor life content on earth…if these were videos this would be huge

[@israel963]

My cat definitely would.

[@douro20]

Gery Shalon is actually the son of a Georgian politician.

[@esquilax5563]

You get a like for the Peep Show clip!

[@code-inc]

What happened to 911 proxy site? They are suddenly vanished 😢

[@deeess7606]

The music is so distracting 😔

[@tsurumikutaro7642]

The Mossad helped them for sure.

[@insomnolant6043]

💯

[@thulanimbatha8833]

What podcast is similar to this 1?

[@originalbinaryhustler3876]

btw Jack I got love for your show no beef

[@vladsch1]

I enjoy listening to the discussion when it pertains to the subject matter you actually know and understand. Similarly when you mouth MSM propaganda on political issues, it grates the ear canals. Please do some research on political issues before mouthing off a strong opinion. Specifically, Crimea. Look into it, and don’t bother with CNN or MSNBC talking points.

[@sunviewer7]

I'm interested in the coverage of the Russia/Ukraine cyberwar, but this guy can't do it without spouting MSNBC points about how evil Russia is and how Ukraine is just a poor victim with no US involvement. It makes it so hard to listen to him.

[@alphaeligon9226]

I thought the CIA data breach podcast was insane, 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳.

[@rebokfleetfoot]

i have some questions

[@lostmountainresearchco]

CyberVor has an entirely different meaning in the furry community

[@kingdeplorable6975]

Take a shot every time he says jp Morgan Chase. See you next year.

[@bosuttlutt]

Bro do you sleep? I can't. I ain't seent all the videos yet

[@GhidoraKidora]

Do u think Gerry and his mysterious hacker was the ones that hacked the us the Russian hackers

[@jorgegonzales6697]

Every single time.

[@bykurt_is]

Hey dude if you are able to work on some like…. 2hr episodes..? I’ll help with whatever you need for free… even though I’m sure you have all the ppl you need already lol. Basically what I’m saying is each episode is never a miss. Love this channel so much.

[@SeanKingeryHomes]

I swear you say jp Morgan chase one more time! 🔨Lol.