WHOA! Stephen A. checks Mad Dog over having ‘NO’ current great teams in the NBA 😳

First Take’s Stephen A. Smith and Chris “Mad Dog” Russo debate how many great teams are currently in the NBA.
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[@Gatorfan_Cavon]

Steven's face when Mad Dog said "In 1978..."😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@deshawnreding9575]

Det shyt had me rollin

[@coreyhibbert-stunts]

🤣🤣🤣

[@ramabelemodiga8404]

I love how Mad Dogg just enters every topic with a ludicrous statement.

[@DarkTempler1]

why?

[@yourfriendlyneighborhoodsm4708]

It’s legit like Skip Baylass all over again and I’m here for it 😂

[@Ze_Moose]

Whatever gets you ratings 😂😂

[@ShokusApolloTV]

hes not wrong

[@ShutThePuck]

It's not even ludicrous, he's spitting facts. Russo isn't there to placate to the younger audience who want to be told their era is the greatest, since the Warriors dynasty there is no all time great team that has emerged. You have to at least win multiple championships and make it to 3+ Finals to even be in the discussion. These Warriors are still trying to figure out how to win with this group, they're incomplete without a center. The Suns, 76ers, Nets, Bucks, they're all in the and the Bucks have the best chance to establish themselves historically but they have to get to the Finals at least 2x more times and win at least another championship just to begin the conversation - and they'd be near the bottom of the list.

[@DubDubeee]

I love how Mad Dog brings old school teams in his debates! He drives Stephen A. crazy and I love it! They need a basketball topic every week. 🤣

[@Matthew-oq1hx]

This show so dumb

[@beno6496]

Mans is the type to put Bob Cousy over Steve Nash just off bias

[@pinbarbecue1100]

@@beno6496 he old school tho and🤣🤣🤣

[@DarkTempler1]

none of it matters. Stephen Curry changed the way basketball is played from the 3 point line. Now all teams are trying to do that. You cannot compare the past to the present its impossible.

[@quimtrajano8023]

I like Mad Dog arguing SA

[@twodeepupyours508]

Mad Dog is Gold 😂 with his back in the 60's and 70's references.

[@houstonbrock32]

Always count on Mad Dog for the history lesson

[@SunsPhan75]

Naw... He's just biased and lives in his mystical memory. I grew up in that era and you have to give the new era credit. Plus I listen to mad dog a ton in New York... He's just a little wacky

[@houstonbrock32]

@@SunsPhan75 gotchu gotchu, respect

[@petramacneary8152]

One of the best topics this show has had in a while that brought out the best of Stephen A. Mad Dog is the new skip bayless of first take. He does a phenomenal job, whether you agree with him or not, on bringing the old school teams, trolling Stephen A, and just having a loud voice. Sign him to be permanent on the show every day!

[@imadbouraima1534]

Yeah

[@b.i.gsteph]

No 😂 the change of hosting is great balance. Nobody wants to hear two of them shouting at each other every day for two hours 😂

[@haezeushawkins436]

@@b.i.gsteph I do speak for yourself

[@hv8546]

shallow threaticals, I prefer meaningful topics and arguments just like when they had Max

[@IconSince87]

The guy is a great character. I don't take anything he says seriously, but its entertaining.

[@henrywilliamson8798]

These guys are REALLY good together! I love how SA rolls his eyes when MadDog brings up the 70s! 😂😂😂

[@Gnofg]

Does anyone think Connaughton is anything more than a marginal talent? If you look at "great teams" every position has a really talented player. Let's look at the late sixties/ seventies Knicks. Four of the five starters are in the top 75 players. Reed, Frazier, DeBuscherre and Monroe. Bradley is a HOF and was the best player in college in 1965. He scored 58 points in the 1965 NCAA's and held the record for years. If you read "breaks of the game" Jack Ramsey said if you didn't stop Bradley you would lose to the Knicks. This HOF team centered their offense around Bradley moving without the ball. This is the "fifth guy on the team. Connaughton is a scrub compared to Bradley. Look at the "86 Celtics. Bird, McHale and Parrish up front. DJ and Ainge in the backcourt and Walton coming off the bench. This is what great teams looks like.

[@JazzyJ5G]

I love Mad Dog for bringing up my '78-'79 Seattle Super Sonics!! I would add that, we also had Paul Silas coming of the bench as our enforcer.

[@TrentonWilliams34250603]

Love how Mad Dog brings up Old School. Sometimes, we forget about the legends.

[@ptyten9718]

Major oldhead vibes 😂

[@mr.rationale8808]

People just need to open up a book and do something called, research.

[@slumch8177]

Many of the 60’s/70’s greats are getting smoked in this era especially how basketball evolved

[@thetownhallwithmayr9830]

No we don’t cause y’all oldheads bring them up every 5 seconds

[@SuccessfulMentality94]

@@mr.rationale8808 that research ain’t showing us anything we don’t already know

[@edsellaurel]

It's always hilarious when Mad Dog brings in a history lesson lmao

[@tony84.]

3:35, Great back and forth by Stephen A. and Mad Dog Russo. With knowledge of the points being made and great entertainment. Great chemistry too.

[@ThePatman1980]

*1:30**-**1:38* The funniest thing I've ever heard on ESPN. I like how Mad said Mil-wa-keee! 🤣 Man, we need Mad Dog every Wednesday. He might get tiresome every day but he must come on ESPN weekly as bare minimum. Dude is a riot.

[@TrynawalkwithGod]

Madd dog be wildn but he is entertaining I wouldn't mind him being on more

[@everythingknicks391]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@xplosiv211]

Give Ayton some credit. It was his 3rd yr I think last year, first finals, and he's matched up with the most dominant center since peak Shaq.

[@PUR3FIR]

Ayton was the reason they lost

[@udithsethu552]

Giannis is not a center.

[@ramonmonch]

@@rodclark6445 giannis is 6'11 same height as jokic and ayton call him whatever you want he's center height

[@ramonmonch]

@@PUR3FIR cp3 screwed us couldn't play defense has worst plus minus and was turning the ball over like crazy

[@Gnofg]

@@ramonmonch He was injured.

[@thebigbeef1390]

Bro these two are absolute GOLD! Make Mad Dog the everyday !!

[@mysterytissues2851]

Mad dog needs to be in first take ATLEAST once a week the chemistry with him and Stephen A is incredible

[@brandonbell8970]

Ima a long time first take alumni!! But recently I have been only watching undistputed just because I like dialogue between two astute men who know what they’re talking about. This is the first time I have seen this tandem and I like it 👍

[@eliasnordin3979]

Maddog is a beast lmao. Keep him on the show, dude's a gem.

[@juanthompson8016]

Yeah we get it. How many times do we have to see the same comment

[@eliasnordin3979]

@@juanthompson8016 Don't be mad Juan.

[@_traveller88]

"in 1978"😂🤣

[@daveisabeastly2024]

@@juanthompson8016 that’s how great he is

[@khtech7508]

@@juanthompson8016 you sound jealous of white excellence.

[@slamandjam2]

The Suns and Bucks are great in my opinion. Warriors are one tier below as it stands but can be great if fully healthy.

[@starrynight2311]

Even though the Grizzlies are young, they have demonstrated they are just one tier below the those two teams but one tier higher than the Warriors.

[@Mavrock954]

The heat are great and have two HOF players in Jimmy and Lowry. Herro and Bam can be HOF too if they play their cards right

[@raphaelugo6695]

The GSW haven’t lost a series with a healthy Klay/Steph and Dray since 2016!!!!….the disrespect is peak

[@raphaelugo6695]

@@starrynight2311 grizzlies???????over GSW????🤦🏽‍♂️

[@starrynight2311]

@@raphaelugo6695 Have we been watching two different seasons? The Grizzlies are the better team if the two.

[@salmonsauce88]

I appreciate the history lesson and a lot of modern fans dismiss how great these old players were. The rules were different back then so they played a different style of basketball. But it’s outrageous to say that there aren’t great teams now. You have to respect both the old and the new

[@markhernandez3310]

I love these two together debate, they need to have their own show together. I can't but laugh throughout the entire debate with the tone of mad dog voice and stephen a laughing throughout the debate hahaha

[@lemywilliams8167]

A simply GOLDEN CLASSIC debate 🔥

[@dcdj35]

Warriors had the most wins ever over a 5yr run. Then all got hurt. Now that health is (slowly) flickering back on and they have a top 5 record in all of hoop. They great and been great.

[@sup9542]

Warriors are an all-time great team but they haven't been this season.

[@RobinXlone]

even tho they won the chip this is easily the worst gsw championship team. they are all time great. but there can be better teams

[@soulslayer434]

Mad Dog is right though. Unless the Suns prove themselves there is no crazy great teams like the Dynasty Spurs, Warriors, even Lebrons Heat and 2nd Cleveland team (until Kyrie left). And those are all recent teams.

[@Windmill360]

Mad Dog brought that Skip Bayless troll energy we haven't seen on First Take for years. 🤣🤣

[@Devantekirkwood]

I like these two hosting together 💯 they go at it.

[@dearshomy]

Mad Dog makes a great point; there isn't yet a team today that would be remembered in 10 years. The Bucks are looking like they could get there. Suns as well but if both teams were dismantled today we might not look back at them.

[@Gnofg]

Does anyone think Connaughton is anything more than a marginal talent? If you look at "great teams" every position has a really talented player. Let's look at the late sixties/ seventies Knicks. Four of the five starters are in the top 75 players. Reed, Frazier, DeBuscherre and Monroe. Bradley is a HOF and was the best player in college in 1965. He scored 58 points in the 1965 NCAA's and held the record for years. If you read "breaks of the game" Jack Ramsey said if you didn't stop Bradley you would lose to the Knicks. This HOF team centered their offense around Bradley moving without the ball. This is the "fifth guy on the team. Connaughton is a scrub compared to Bradley. Look at the "86 Celtics. Bird, McHale and Parrish up front. DJ and Ainge in the backcourt and Walton coming off the bench. This is what great teams looks like.

[@theinktician]

People only remember when you win. So if the Finals is good, people will remember. If the Bucks repeat, they will be remembered. We dont think so today, but thats present day lens

[@TheBlackestKnight21]

you have to wait for the team to win the title and have it marinate for this even to be a topic. in 10 years teams will remember the 2020 lakers as a great team imo , same w 2019 raptors and the 2014 spurs. None of those teams at the time were considered “all time”. Just because they aren’t a top 5 team all time doesn’t mean it isn’t all time

[@thetarheel2010j]

@@Gnofg all great teams doesn’t have really talented players? That’s just false….

[@Nickvanexel23]

Stupid take if you can’t remember teams that won championship you shouldn’t be watching nba. You just don’t know basketball… I can name the last 30 nba championship since last year and I’m 32

[@EE-bg1de]

I love our the editor stopped him at "draymond is a hall of" He was like CUT CUT! STOP THE CAP!!! LOL

[@aviks3698]

Underrated one of the best segments on first take in a while!!

[@DatGhettoBlackDude]

"in 1978" 😭😭😭😭 Mad Dogg a old who can't get out of the past and I love it

[@tony84.]

0:23, Stephen A. and Mad Dog Russo are just a lot of fun to watch. And NO ONE knows sports history like Mad Dog Russo.

[@user-oh4jd7ku2d]

He’s right tho. There’s no an all time great team right now in the nba. The suns are just the best team but because most teams are struggling. Just look at the records. Most teams are above 25 losses..

[@alymdennis9772]

Great≠all time great. And by the standards set in this video (3 hall of famers) the warriors are a great team. Steph Klay and Draymond will go to the hall of fame.

[@user-oh4jd7ku2d]

@@alymdennis9772 yea but they are past their prime. Klay just got back from injury. Next year if they are all healthy and get to at least the 2014-2015 warriors level then they would be an all time great team again

[@teddylabarca4565]

Suns were the best team because they were the only team that got over 60 wins.

[@jefferrrson1x]

He’s right.

[@jasonandrews1770]

@@alymdennis9772 2 of 3

[@RossRadikSherman]

Disagree with Smith's comparison of Rodman and Draymond Green. Green revolutionized the power forward position by playing point forward and he has won defensive player of the year but he still isn't as good as Rodman. Rodman could dominate a game and Draymond can't.

[@davidlinton9666]

Maybe not dominate a game, but he can certainly control a game at any given moment

[@arronlipscomb820]

2 different players and play styles one controls offense the other controls defense and reb can't compare them

[@RossRadikSherman]

@@arronlipscomb820 Rodman was a smart offensive player, like Draymond. He was always at the right place at the right time on offense; mainly, he was used to swing the ball from one side to the other with a touch, catch-pass. Draymond does a lot more on offensive but that's partially because power forwards didn't play point guard back in Rodman's time. The game has evolved.

[@arronlipscomb820]

@@RossRadikSherman yea that's why im saying it's not good to compare them not saying rodman is trash on offense it's just dray like u said just does more something we really haven't seen before but dray will be in the hof for sure I don't see y not especially seeing how easy it is lol

[@teelee4097]

Rodman was a far greater rebounder than Draymond, I got Draymond EVERYWHERE else ESPECIALLY on the offensive end. I'll call it even on defense. But Dray kills him everywhere else.

[@CurtisBallard]

I swear Mad Dog is the only person that makes Steven A. break character and actually laugh instead of that fake Dallas sucks laugh 😂

[@Shmitty2023]

By far the best duo on TV when your talking purely entertainment!

[@LAMEXAME]

“Take your hand off your brow…there you go” 😂

[@pjaybdizer6870]

I agree with Mad Dog! Bunch of good and superstar players here and there, but there's no great team currently in the NBA and only Bucks is close and on their way there... the Warriors in their prime as a team before the injuries from like 14 - 19 is definitely an all-time great team, and now they are back in '22!!!

[@micahkiyimba8641]

True,At this point there isn't any. Obviuosly GS can be considered that since it is still basically the same crew from their title days but they haven't been healthy enough to show it.

[@ericfurst6091]

Warriors were an all time great team with KD. Before, they were just a good team.

[@michaelcurtin5698]

@@ericfurst6091 that won 73 games and went to two straight finals lmao, I get what you’re saying tho

[@ericfurst6091]

@@michaelcurtin5698 and lost. 73 are worthless when you lose 🤷‍♂️ Thats one of the reason why 96 bulls were greater.

[@Gnofg]

Does anyone think Connaughton is anything more than a marginal talent? If you look at "great teams" every position has a really talented player. Let's look at the late sixties/ seventies Knicks. Four of the five starters are in the top 75 players. Reed, Frazier, DeBuscherre and Monroe. Bradley is a HOF and was the best player in college in 1965. He scored 58 points in the 1965 NCAA's and held the record for years. If you read "breaks of the game" Jack Ramsey said if you didn't stop Bradley you would lose to the Knicks. This HOF team centered their offense around Bradley moving without the ball. This is the "fifth guy on the team. Connaughton is a scrub compared to Bradley. Look at the "86 Celtics. Bird, McHale and Parrish up front. DJ and Ainge in the backcourt and Walton coming off the bench. This is what great teams looks like.

[@AfricanHeavyMetalGuy]

I love how Mad Dog has brought out the best Stephen A we've seen since Skip left. Max was nice and all but Max was too timid for Stephen A. Stephen A needs a sparring partner that matches his energy and Max was not it.

[@josuemetayer383]

L

[@xHoTsHoTx]

I like this Mad Dog, he is funny and very knowledgeable. Come on Stevie!

[@xosstv1691]

You Both Are right for each other , the best combo commentating on tv by far !!

[@stephenkasputis2502]

When I heard "in 1978,..." all I heard was "back in 'nam"🤣🤣🤣

[@Ahjusshi_Brown]

I’m sorry I love Doggie, idc what his take is he puts a smile on my face and usually cracks me up 😂😂

[@money0925]

Mad Dog: "In 1978. . ." 😂😂😂

[@jamesdeadlocked6664]

Stephen A and Molly reaction when Mad Dog said "In 1978......" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ThePatman1980]

One of my favorite Gilligan's Island episodes is "The Producer". It's when they did a musical for Hamlet. Mad Dog reminds me of Harold Hecuba. Talks like him. "Actors! Actors!" He's insulting but hilarious.

[@thomascrowniii1693]

Mad Dog isn't wrong. Stephen A. keeps naming individual players like that means a team is great.

[@archiveplug1819]

It’s up for debate some of these teams can rlly be great Stephen a wasn’t wrong either

[@lukelance]

The suns are 63-16 pretry great

[@jordan12118]

Phoenix is great. Saying they aren’t is a casual take

[@doriangore373]

Mad Dog is wrong though. The Suns are a great team.

[@craigs6245]

Phoenix is great you casual

[@Venividivici55555]

It's like having a sports time machine and Stephen A always can just laugh because Dog's always going back to his time in the past

[@martinlucas9186]

3:08 SAS starting sound like Mad Dog when he yells lol

[@michaeldillman1660]

"No great teams in the NBA" dude the Suns are 63-16! Honestly feel bad for these """analysts""" at this point. They all said Nets vs. Lakers Finals...only 15 teams per conference and now they're 9th and 11th😂🤦‍♂

[@Kbtrey4]

i mean the mavs win 67 one year but it doesn’t make u a great team imo

[@thomascrowniii1693]

If they don't win the title, they're not a great team.

[@micahkiyimba8641]

Great teams are more than their records. Multiple Championships are what makes a great team, not a 1 finals appearance.

[@theolddarksoul1129]

Hawks were a 60 win team a few years ago

[@michaeldillman1660]

@@micahkiyimba8641 They went from: 30 wins (10 seed) to 51 wins (2 seed),ceasy West Chmpionship + 6-game Finals in ONE year... now they're gonna be 65 wins (1 seed) and probably another Finals appearance.

[@alant9517]

I love the vibes of this show when it's mad dog Stephen and Molly. They have fun and make it fun wether I agree or not.

[@dtechzsama]

love mad dog . we really need to listen to this man coz most of the young guns today dont know history in the NBA .

[@Legendary865]

3:07 😂😂 all I heard is “bad game!!!!” 😂

[@Kbtrey4]

i can agree w this take

[@ThePatman1980]

Doggy calling Ayton overrated! 🤣 Man, I love this guy. I like people like him just screaming things and he doesn't care. Imagine DeAndre watching this video and getting pissed off! 🤣 He wants that max deal.

[@wc4201]

I’d agree w mad dog. The last great team in the nba was the Durant, Curry, Thompson Warriors. Prior to that was the Spurs, Mavs and early 2k Lakers.

[@ecnorthernlights2094]

Love the combo here

[@ryanrodriguez9201]

i love mad dogs energy but he gotta chill with constant references to teams from 50 years ago

[@MrKdhill84]

Bruh later in the show dude brought up a baseball team from 1918 lol

[@boomboominroom]

@@MrKdhill84 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@michaeledwards1552]

If u want to bring up history u have to bring up the whole history words from Michael irvin lol

[@rockjm9876543210]

Keep Mad Dog full time😂

[@TV-wu5py]

6:04 mad dog doing an impression of lego Yoda death

[@ragar6728]

i love it when they start yelling together lol

[@techtennisone]

Using Mad Dog’s requirement that you need 3 HOF players on a team to be a great team, then it’s Golden State. Dray, Klay & Steph and they have 3 championships but they spent the entire debate talking about Phoenix?!?!

[@matheuscastro6644]

i think gsw was GREAT,i think they're really good but not GREAT anymore, as in all time great like they were before

[@starrynight2311]

The Warriors time has past. Right now, its the Phoenix and Memphis who are the future great teams for the West.

[@ceejordan9649]

Lebron, Russ, Carmelo, Dwight & AD gone be in the HOF. That don't make the Lakers a great team. U don't need 3 HOF players to be a great team. What he shoulda said is there are no Super Teams. There are 4-5 great "TEAMS". The key word is TEAM. Suns, Bucks, Warriors, Heat, & Grizz are actually great "TEAMS."

[@Cheezkrispies131]

He means currently all time great team. The warriors WERE that a few years ago but this isn’t the peak warriors.

[@ceejordan9649]

@@Cheezkrispies131 oh ok well he should have said All-time great. Even then it's still too early to say. What if the Bucks go back to back or the Suns win the next 2 titles?? Or the Warriors add another title post KD. I think it's a question that u can only get the answer too after the fact. Still to early to tell.

[@davidgubser2280]

When SAS has to moderate Molly

[@antoniotaylor2808]

I need an snl sketch of this man.

[@Ce_ej]

I’m just happy the Sonic’s are getting talked about in some compacity 😂😭 thank you dog, thank you dog

[@morganmoore26]

Mad-Dog could SAVE First Take

[@MrFreakazoid23]

Stephen A lowkey got MadDog when he brought up the 3 HOFs to make a great team but then contradicted himself by saying he hates when superstars make super teams lol

[@anamacedo]

3:10 on sounds like an Oscar winning scene lol Marriage Story NBA style

[@mttevo]

As soon as he said, 1978....I was on the floor 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ifheavenwashuman]

This brings me back to the Will Cain days. He was one of the best First Take guests Stephen A. ever had.

[@vincew4297]

Please… you don’t even hear about Will Cain anymore, dude’s a non-factor

[@aj2261]

Don’t ever say this again to anyone

[@MyName-gz7yi]

Lol lemme guess what u look like

[@bankofwerner4206]

@@ifheavenwashuman he works for fox

[@ifheavenwashuman]

@@MyName-gz7yi 😶 Try me.

[@GinoValsaint]

We need Mad Dog because he educates us on the history of the game and it really puts things in perspective when comparing greats. Leave it to SAS, he once said that Donavon Mitchell is the greatest Jazz player and a few weeks later Jazz got got kicked out the first round of the playoffs and Donavon got shut down. 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@U.S._ARMYGWVDSS]

Bless Yall , God Speed . . From, "The City By The Bay" San Francisco ! Go Dubs !! GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS

[@ThePatman1980]

I'm born 1980 and love history. I love many things and people BEFORE my time. I Love Lucy is still my all-time favorite show. I love Bob Ross. Wilt is my favorite player before my time. I love Secretariat, Seattle Slew, and Affirmed.

[@chr_michaelz]

Mad Dog is always pulling teams we have to look up cause it was forever ago 😂😂😂😂

[@JackpotJoe94]

He’s absolutely correct. A lot of good teams but none have separated themselves enough to be great!

[@jakethesnake1382]

Not the warriors?

[@JackpotJoe94]

@@jakethesnake1382 Not this version of them just yet. Klay ain’t got his legs yet and Steph isn’t the nuclear force he was back then but if Poole can help contribute and they win the chip then absolutely

[@letsgocowboys9409]

@@jakethesnake1382 when they put up examples of great teams it’s a 3-4 year span cmon. These warriors are not the same as either the pre or post Durant teams and therefore cannot be added to that era. I mean they were worst in nba for a season and missed playoffs last season. This new warriors team is not yet proven to be a great team.

[@jakethesnake1382]

@@letsgocowboys9409 you right…… until they win the championship this year 🤷🏽‍♂️ then what?

[@jakethesnake1382]

@@JackpotJoe94 that’s all I’m saying. No one’s beating them this year , warriors vs Celtics and they win in 6

[@CBeezyDSGB]

This is like the final boss battle when 2 bosses collide. They arguing to a mirror almost lol it’s hilarious

[@Coldskin1]

Someone should make mad dog say oooo a calc-u-lat-da🤣

[@isaacberry389]

Been a while since I’ve seen SAS win a debate with facts and logic instead of just screaming😂

[@simonpark2912]

I accidentally stumbled into this video during the conference finals. Mad Dog was right about the Suns.

[@BottomLin3Op]

I like debates like this

[@papacinoooo]

just wanna say, i still cant believe that the warriors can go this far, based on what they "exhibited" last season. im proud of them.

[@andrehill5082]

Mad Dog is right. When there's a great team, you know who's going to win the championship. 17 warriors were the last great team. 18 warriors almost lost to the Rockets in 7 games. 19 raptors beat a injured squad. No one picked them. 20 lakers had the layoff and beat an injured heat team in a bubble. 21 bucks was good but was down 0-2 to Brooklyn until Kyrie got hurt and wasn't picked to beat phx. All those teams under ideal circumstances could be taken out. Everyone healthy not beating the 17 warriors 01 lakers 96 bulls

[@datsapaddlin]

Well this is good for the NBA when it’s parody because it’s a lot of good teams

[@MrUnorthoocks]

We all "knew" the 71 win warriors were going to win it all. Especially when they were up 3-1 in the finals

[@ThePatman1980]

I actually agree with Doggy. If I'm ranking my 42-40 Clippers in my top 3 and they took the Suns to 6 games last year without Kawhi, then there are really no great teams. Just very good teams but extremely beatable.

[@tyrejackson2977]

That’s last year tho what do that gotta do with this year 🤔 I agree phx wasn’t a great team last year but this year is totally different

[@nothingspecial8114]

that’s last year. Teams can grow and get better in a year. Look at the Warriors from 2014-2015 to them in 2015-2016

[@ssss6572]

This is awful logic. Every great team in history has lost to bad teams at some point. Take off the rose coloured glasses…

[@micahkiyimba8641]

@@tyrejackson2977 How is it different? We haven't seen the playoffs. Great teams aren't just abt a great record

[@micahkiyimba8641]

@@nothingspecial8114 That can't be compared to PHX..The 14-15 GS team won 67 games and the team and Curry broke 3 pt records on their way to a Championship..the Suns may get to 66 wins but aren't close to being as good as the 14-15 GS team. The 15-16 GS is the 2nd greatest team ever and this suns team can't even sniff the top 10 all time list

[@StonerKitchen]

These two have become the new Woody and Skip. For those who remember the Cold Pizza days. lol

[@owlknightc8912]

Mad dog says you need 3 HOF to be a great team so that must mean that the Lakers are one of the best all time cause they have 5 HOF on their team and 4 of them are on the top 75 list i believe. Also lets ease up on the suns a little bit besides Crowder and Paul most of the team is 26 and below in age let them have a few more years before we start saying things about them Ayton and Bridges in their 4th year while Johnson is in his 3yd year and Booker is only 25 years old not even in his prime yet. The Suns and Grizzles will probably be dominating the west for the next 6-7 years in my opinion.

[@kingcheddar5966]

Lookalike skip is crazy🤣

[@McYates24]

he's right though, can't say the Suns are when they haven't won a chip... Depends on your definition of "great" but i'd only consider a team with a recent chip still playing at a high level entering a dynasty level like the previous warriors, spurs etc... No current team is striking absolute fear in any other team.

[@immamyreactiontoo]

In retrospective, Mad Dog was right that The Suns were not a great team and that prior roster will be forgotten in time in comparison to their current team if KD remains healthy.

[@asylum1166]

He might be right there are currently no great team there is really good teams no doubt but I need to see dominance! If the bucks can win again then you can argue that they are

[@brendanjanicsek5898]

I personally know someone on that '78-'79 Sonics team. This take makes me so mad as a Suns fan, that I want to get in contact with him just to get his opinion on these Suns. This Suns team is the best in franchise history record-wise, and that screaming buffoon thinks it's not a great team. Give me a break! The Suns went to the finals last year and got ... BETTER! I love SAS pointing out the hypocrisy.

[@Cheezkrispies131]

The way I see it I wouldn’t take that suns team over the warriors dynasty, Cavs 2016, Miami 2013, Jordan bulls, Duncan Spurs, Kobe Shaq lakers, and many other all time great teams. They’re good but they haven’t even scraped that level yet.

[@micahkiyimba8641]

The Suns haven't revolutionised Basketball or won multiple titles. Mad Dog is right. There is no GREAT team in the NBA atm

[@jamaral3233]

No, they are not a great team, but they might be the best team in a period without great teams. Mad Dog is right! Obviously, what he means is historical great teams. The Warriors with KD were the last great team. Before that the Kobe and Shack Lakers. Besides that, since that lakers team, there was good teams with great individual players.

[@paquinraino8180]

@@jamaral3233 You completely forgot the 2014 Spurs

[@boombenjamin92]

@@jamaral3233 2008 & 2010 Celtics, 2004 & 2005 Pistons, 2006 Miami Heat, 2011 Mavs, 2012 & 13 Miami Heat, 09 & 2010 Lakers, Spurs Dynasty, Shaq & Kobe Dynasty

[@The_IcemaN_723]

Stephen A is right, Mad Dog is all over the map with how defines Great Teams.

[@Gnofg]

Does anyone think Connaughton is anything more than a marginal talent? If you look at "great teams" every position has a really talented player. Let's look at the late sixties/ seventies Knicks. Four of the five starters are in the top 75 players. Reed, Frazier, DeBuscherre and Monroe. Bradley is a HOF and was the best player in college in 1965. He scored 58 points in the 1965 NCAA's and held the record for years. If you read "breaks of the game" Jack Ramsey said if you didn't stop Bradley you would lose to the Knicks. This HOF team centered their offense around Bradley moving without the ball. This is the "fifth guy on the team. Connaughton is a scrub compared to Bradley. Look at the "86 Celtics. Bird, McHale and Parrish up front. DJ and Ainge in the backcourt and Walton coming off the bench. This is what great teams looks like.

[@Gnofg]

@@jooniebewatchin You are right the '04 Pistons will be remembered as a great team said by no one.

[@arbernumani3709]

@@Gnofg dude all of those guys you mention in the 60s and 70s went to the hall of fame because they accomplished a lot in a way smaller league and with less skilled players. Today you have about 30-35 ( when healthy) all star talents in the league and they’re more skilled than ever before. This makes it so not everybody gets the accolades that they truly deserve ( less rings, all star games, mvp etc ) so not all of them end up getting in the hall of fame. You cant use “he is a hoef” as an argument to say that a dude from the 70s is better than somebody today

[@Gnofg]

@@arbernumani3709 The mistake everyone makes is comparing era's in evaluating players. Based on your evaluation technique babe Ruth would be a scrub. Babe Ruth is the greatest baseball player ever. He was a HOf pitcher and at the time he hit more HR's than entire teams. You only compare how a player did against the competition they played against. Your method is pretty stupid.

[@arbernumani3709]

@@Gnofg ofc there are exceptions. An MVP who player in the 70s would probably be a great player today too. But dude A is a hall of famer so he is better than dude B is a lazy and flawed argument

[@RiktorchyA]

How yall didn't bring up Lenny Wilkins

[@jonathancruz5716]

You can have the 80's Lakers and Celtics Or the 90's Cowboys and Niners with the current salary structure.

[@marko6947]

Mad Dog speaking facts!

[@leonfth]

Give this man his own show. Go Mad Dog!

[@seankelly4594]

I never would’ve put Jamall work to Mikel Bridges in the same sentence until today thank you mad dogg 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@blackdynamite5150]

Golden state. Other than that he's right because everyone get traded ever year even superstars we're talking about teams not players. Bucks could be if they keep the team intact and keep winning.

[@Gnofg]

Does anyone think Connaughton is anything more than a marginal talent? If you look at "great teams" every position has a really talented player. Let's look at the late sixties/ seventies Knicks. Four of the five starters are in the top 75 players. Reed, Frazier, DeBuscherre and Monroe. Bradley is a HOF and was the best player in college in 1965. He scored 58 points in the 1965 NCAA's and held the record for years. If you read "breaks of the game" Jack Ramsey said if you didn't stop Bradley you would lose to the Knicks. This HOF team centered their offense around Bradley moving without the ball. This is the "fifth guy on the team. Connaughton is a scrub compared to Bradley. Look at the "86 Celtics. Bird, McHale and Parrish up front. DJ and Ainge in the backcourt and Walton coming off the bench. This is what great teams looks like.

[@staytruu7319]

Madd dogg is a great but I simply can’t agree with this take 😂

[@jasonandrews1770]

Hes kinda right tho. Just look at the records of teams who made the playoffs. The closest to a great team is prob the warriors but they are past their prime now. Not a lot of future hall of famers in the league that arnt all past their prime

[@JustMicahFilms]

i mean he isnt wrong the last great team was the GSW with KD, Giannis team can be if they win it again this year

[@ceejordan9649]

That wasn't a great team, that was a Super Team

[@IknowMoreThanYou]

GSW is A GREAT team because of what they've done over the past decade. Phoenix is ELITE but no chip yet

[@auburnmann3630]

If your counting HOFs, the Lakers are a great team since they have 5😂