Whole Foods' John Mackey: 'I feel like socialists are taking over'

[@kevinjackson4933]

The way people acted over covid was totally absurd. Embarrassing. And that isn't a 'hindsight' opinion. Many of us were saying it then, and we had good reason to.

[@bonnevillebagger9147]

I lost several friends just for trying to get them to calm down and not freak out.

[@scottmatznick3140]

Since day uno I've been saying it: they do the same scare tactic every decade or so, and this was no different whatsoever.

[@devinpaul9026]

Oh it absolutely is/was nothing but a tactic, and it absolutely IS a recurring thing. The concerning thing is not the "reality" of these things-- rest assured it absolutely does not exist. No, the concerning thing is that they clamp down harder and push further every single time they do it-- whether we know what they're openly doing or not. Having seen this latest attempt, you can mark my words-- the next one'll end us.

[@LegalAutomation]

@@bonnevillebagger9147 Same. My relationship with my brother has deteriorated because of it. It's very sad.

[@MRSketch09]

That's just survivor bias. It could of been a true nightmare as well with even more people dying. I get your point, but just b/c you were lucky & not affected.. I guess don't take that for granted & be smug about it. Unless you have the memory span of a gnat, new york, had quite the hellish situation on their hands with people passing away. My uncle got covid, he died... my dad & step mom got it as well, & it was rough, they had a horrid cough.. they did manage to get over it though with a lot of rest. Luckily both are retired. but it wasn't a walk in the park. I got it myself, thought I was healthy & fit.. and while it didn't kill me it took the wind out of my sails & I was miserable for awhile, then I had a stupid cough that wouldn't go away for literally months. I don't smoke, so I know it wasn't that.

[@Cronama]

"Whole Foods CEO thinks the world is being taken over by socialists" My brother in Christ you feed and employ them.

[@bladeswelove]

Well that would be Amazon now

[@WeighedWilson]

Keep pretending that they aren't our friends and neighbors and you can believe it's wrong to feed and employ those who are different. Doesn't sound like someone who listened to Christ's message to me.

[@DegreesOfThree]

I'm pretty sure Antifa membership is a requirement for all Starbucks and Whole Foods employees.

[@DegreesOfThree]

@@WeighedWilson How'd that turning the other cheek stuff work out for Jesus?

[@kathrynludrick4821]

That's ridiculous.

[@ready1fire1aim1]

ESG score for companies is like Social Credit Score in China.

[@mikewallis2987]

Boycott ALL esg compliant companies...tell a friend.

[@amamdawhatever]

It's not like a social credit score, it IS a social credit score. If you work for an ESG company (basically all publicly traded companies), you must tow the line, without question. Lest you get blacklisted from working. This is the college, student loan, work slave trap. Mind your mouth or starve.

[@MonsQuietus]

That's cool but why was he down for selling whole foods to Amazon?

[@abs2fast2furios]

By the time of the purchase, he only owned 0.5% of the company. So i doubt it was wholly his decision

[@alanaadams7440]

Sell out

[@KevinSmith-qi5yn]

Jeff Bezos is a huge Libertarian and Capitalist.

[@AbhishekKumar7]

The trouble with ReasonTV and why you have such low reach and engagement, is that you’re preaching to the choir. We obviously agree. You need to expand your content - maybe record some genuine debates and disputes with the other side and show those stories.

[@FEV369]

To be fair they have that, more so than any Rep or Dem outlet. The problem has been the libertarian leadership that are basically afk up until 6 months before a Presidential election. If the LP could focus on candidates throughout the country over 4 years, it would actually have some candidates worth voting for because they have a political record and name recognition.

[@MA-go7ee]

Huh? If anything Reason is way too watered down and is thus not the compelling. There's a reason the last burst of enthusiasm for libertarianism was Ron Paul.

[@User-54631]

Do you have any examples to check out?

[@themanhimself1229]

They do that sometimes, and it tends to get heavily disliked and rallied against. It's kinda odd.

[@Gary_oldmans_left_nut]

They have debates, but they don't often debate the core of libertarianism. The truth is any time libertarians debate libertarianism itself they get wrecked. Eg Dave Smith vs Sam Seder.

[@MikeJones-wp2mw]

Go Mackey for ripping the vaccines!! HOLY SHIT THAT WAS SO BEAUTIFULLY PUT!! Makes me proud of my years at Whole Foods, I loved the fuck out of that company back 13 or so years ago. So much energy, so positive, I quit smoking, I got my psoriasis under control. It did a lot for me being in that environment at that stage in my life. I also met some of my best friends there. I got to meet all kinds of people from all sorts of communities. The whole thing was amazing.

[@funnyjokeman6175]

I'm glad your life has improved even though I think your beliefs are stupid.

[@amamdawhatever]

I like the reinforcement of the idea that we are decending into an authoritarian society. Both sides are happy to step on the necks of the people, by using the violence of government to assure their power.

[@JakeWitmer]

Yep! ...And Mackey helped 'em do it by banning the circulation of nominating petitions at his stores. He talks libertarian sometimes, but acts fascist all the time. ...And, now, he can claim it's out of his hands (because he sold WF to Amazon).

[@amamdawhatever]

I agree there is a lot of cognitive dissonance going on there. I think he has probably rationalized it by being a "victim" corporate silencing, or being "muzzled" by the board, or doing what had to be done to keep the stock price up. In my opinion, If he had any integrity, he would have spoken out years ago.

[@Americansikkunt]

He’s RIGHT! He said it SPOT-ON!

[@ParadigmUnkn0wn]

Wait... this is awesome. I can shop at Whole Foods guilt-free now. I always assumed I was supporting a far-left company and felt bad for just stepping foot in their stores. *Whole Foods is gonna be getting a LOT more of my business now. Heck yeah!*

[@breezemachine666]

whole foods was sold to amazon years ago

[@JakeWitmer]

Mackey is libertarian-lite. He calls the cops on people circulating nominating petitions in his parking lots, even if those nominating petitions are for the Libertarian Party's ballot access. "With friends like these." He even wrote me a personal email years ago claiming he had a right to do this. Sure. The British Loyalists also had a right(to a point!) to evict America's founders from their property and call the redcoats on them...but those who did it were shameful.

[@notuxnobux]

@@JakeWitmer Using force to get people away from your property is absolutely libertarian

[@AF-we1zc]

Yes good to hear.... Wait retiring?!

[@JakeWitmer]

@@notuxnobux ...assuming your property isn't open to the general public. "No libertarians allowed" is hardly libertarian. ...Again....the "colonials vs. redcoats" and "abolitionists vs. slavery defenders" analogy works really well: If you put up signs that say, "No libertarians alowed" (but everyone else can talk) or "No n___ allowed!" ...I'm gonna have to question your libertarian bona fides! (And guess what? If the debate goes on long enough, you're going to lose. ...Lots of people want a stupid version of libertarianism where only they and their in-group are free...and where they and their in-group are given government contracts for totalitarian projects. ...One such totalitarian project is "a place where totalitarians are free to shop without hearing about any annoying civics ideas." ...replete with a tax-financed lot paid for by your surrounding totalitarian neighbors as well as your 'under-duress' libertarian neighbors. ....But they don't count in your system...after all they're "dirty" or "unclean" or "degenerate artists" or "Jews" or, no, wait...."druggies.") Call the cops!

[@EricGranata]

I once saw John speak in Austin at SXSW and it was wild. Audience was as vicious as you can imagine. Loved it.

[@creativecatproductions]

Young people are over institutionalized from the time they are born, and throughout the entirety of their early adulthood now. They know and understand very little outside of what certified authorities dictate to them. To the institution, they grant the full assent of their mind, and they can’t imagine living apart from it. Their future is couched entirely within it, and the only goal they are capable of striving for is to ascend to the higher levels of the institution itself.

[@briannerk3373]

Yes, more cruelty and more calllousness is the answer. "If only we hit em harder society would be better!"

[@legalfictionnaturalfact3969]

hhhooommmeeesccchoooollll ftw

[@danielcobbins9050]

After he retires, Whole Foods will get woke and go broke.

[@rockyroad7345]

This guy sounds awesome but let's please remember what counts....Whole Foods is owned by AMAZON. No thank you.

[@KevinSmith-qi5yn]

I have to disagree with Mackey. I don't think a Vegan Diet is healthy. I also don't think corn and sugar is healthy. People who go into a carnivore diet do very well with health, weight, blood pressure, and heart disease. I have also seen people on a Vegan Diet that had to switch to a carnivore diet due to health issues. Usually just depends on the person. I do agree with him on the issue with seed oils. Basically, most people ingest too many carbs and getting the diet back into balance with fats and protein resolves the issue.

[@hrundibakshi6830]

I don't shop at Whole Foods, I don't particularly like Whole Foods, but guys like Mackey are to only hope we have to prevent Woke Totalitarianism. The younger generations have been indoctrinated into physical and emotional weakness.

[@KevinSmith-qi5yn]

I don't think the youngest generation is a problem. It's GenX and Millennials who were indoctrinated into this stuff. The failures of the indoctrination post 2008 and the sheer fact of who is having kids has changed the dynamic dramatically. But right now, we are in a phase where GenX and Millennials are reaching the age of institutional power. The political leadership of GenX and Millennials are people who have never worked in the private sector, which is an issue that will be reversing by 2030.

[@mr.jamster8414]

YES.

[@briannerk3373]

I wouldn't call wokeism socialism. If anything it is actively subverting it

[@Roaryer]

You should put the sponsor link in the description

[@Faustobellissimo]

I'm not American What's so special about this Whole Foods chain? (apart from selling expensive health foods) somebody tell me please

[@Bikewithlove]

There’s nothing at all special about Whole Foods, except that their cashiers are woke nazis. There are many better supermarkets and specialty gourmet shops out there besides Whole Foods. Get woke, go broke.

[@AlteraLin]

very expensive products, but they look really nice and have a really nice selection of things most places don't have.

[@Faustobellissimo]

@@AlteraLin Are Whole Foods Market the only health food stores in the USA?

[@AlteraLin]

@@Faustobellissimo It's the only interstate store that I know of. There are a few other relatively high-end grocery stores, but they're local.

[@Faustobellissimo]

@@AlteraLin In Italy health food shops are only local and they boast to sell mostly local produce. It's part of their philosophy. But it's true that you have local organic farmers' markets, which we don't have.

[@MikeJones-wp2mw]

Our wages compared to a the boomers when they were our age is a joke. The amount of hours we have to work in order to pay for a home or a car compared to to the previous generations is like 1000 times longer. It's crazy when you start to compare everything and see how much less we make by comparison and how much more we work.

[@johngalt97]

Have you normalized according to how much home and car? Cars are the same weight, but last at least twice as long and are safer. Most people insist on way more house earlier in their lives. You're paying more taxes.

[@Fitnessat40years]

Everyone crying Noone is actually working.

[@hikerstl]

Unfortunately he is correct. The socialist crowd is everywhere, but especially in organizations that influence political thought, including education, media, entertainment, government insiders and now the corporate class. They are everywhere. I feel surrounded.

[@Grudgie]

Only it's not socialists, it's actually communists born and indoctrinated in western institutions.

[@stryder619]

They're very loud, and definitely involved, but there's more of us than them, and we're just now getting involved.

[@hidesbehindpseudonym1920]

@@stryder619 there are definitely not more of you than there are of them unless you're saying that there are more rich people than there are poor people....

[@hidesbehindpseudonym1920]

I wonder why there might be so many of them... hmmm

[@KevinSmith-qi5yn]

Socialist thought usually dies the day someone gets their first paycheck and loses 1/3rd their income with the promise someday after 45 years they may get some of it back. Millennials were by far the most socialist generation, but now that millennials are aging into the middle class that is changing. Donald Trump also changed the political landscape. The Republican Party has become the working-class party while the Democrats have become the party of wealthy white people in cities. This changed voting demographics in the rust belt. The woke culture also insulted many into abandoning the equity party.

[@angryshot]

smart guy, wish he and many others spoke up sooner....

[@GregKingston]

Too many CEOs are muzzled and won't speak out because they are too worried about negative Tweets and shareprice.

[@PurpleHazeVanNederlands]

He's retiring now which is why he spoke up

[@EricGranata]

He wrote his book on capitalism around 10 years ago.

[@bryanhalcott8980]

I kinda hate WF nowadays, love smaller markets. But they up leveled the super market game for sure.

[@bidhrohi12]

Not really. From the start, Whole Foods was seen as a big market exploiting the fad of organic farming and stores. Asparagus water, what not.

[@richardmillward8200]

I’m tired of corporate raiders BS!!!!!!

[@franknuzzo2576]

What is that?

[@danielcobbins9050]

@@franknuzzo2576 Businessmen, who have enough cash to buy a firm's stock. Basically, a hostile takeover move.

[@smicksmookety]

Half the country won't look back at the destruction of our economy during covid as something that was avoidable.

[@livejay9062]

I don't agree about the economy. Societal institutions, though- many have collapsed, and the things that should have changed- like shoveling people into tightly packed stadiums- NOPE

[@anonymousAJ]

Nick's intro convinced me not to waste my time listening to the rest

[@14ariel77]

Capitalism is not perfect but Socialism is not the answer let alone communism

[@billybatson8657]

The United States is the only country on Earth that has not 1, not 2, but THREE private space programs. There's no other country on the planet that has or could sustain a private space program. Why is that, exactly? Socialism? Where you can "exist", but you are limited on your upward mobility. Also name 100 iconic, innovative businesses, then list the countries they were formed in. Virtually all of them will be from the United States or Japan. Not Canada. Not England. Not Brazil. Not Russia. Not China. Japan and the US are the 2 greatest, and possibly the only 2 real remaining capitalist societies left on Earth.

[@kenhiett5266]

Nick interjecting about two old men discussing their take on abortion is antithetical to the lowercase reason the uppercase Reason is based upon. Nick falls into the woke trap far too often.

[@isaiahdillard4598]

Baby murder isn't a fundamental right. It's not a constitutional right to kill innocent humans

[@SeparadoresAtecon]

why doesnt reason, upload just the audio to spotify? Its just so much better to listen in spotify on the go, just my humble opinion

[@michaelhutchings6602]

They do

[@SeparadoresAtecon]

@@michaelhutchings6602 dude i cant find the podcast on spotify, are they listed as reason? or did they use another name?

[@philliphale5173]

I wanted to give Mr. Mackey a HUGE thumbs up - finally a CEO willing to stand up to the WOKE mob. I hope he has a lot more to say. Maybe other "intimidated" leaders will gather strength from his honesty.

[@beedubs1327]

He’s great. More businessmen like him! Get ready for all the libs to freak out!

[@justinpaul3110]

I'd LOOOOVE a follow up on this. Soon

[@blitz_zen]

Whole Foods did not create diverse grocery stores, immigration and yuppies did. :)

[@solomeo1794]

Nick please stop interrupting your guest. It seemed like when John was trying to make a point, you kept interrupting him, it was very annoying.

[@staubach1979rt]

He does this in 100% of his interviews. Interrupting is a pet peeve of mine. My policy is that if I'm interrupted, I will just stop talking about whatever my point or story was about.

[@thebigdawgj]

Abortion isn't murder unless the thing has already been birthed. Simple.

[@EMO_alpha]

I think the average person doesn't want to work because they have no confidence or hope. No role models, no community, come from bad families. Also alot of us have bought into the idea that working is bad. When it turns out being idle is actually much worse for you lol i just think the average guy doesn't have the cultural foundation to see the respect in work or the vision to see a path to a good enough success. The ghetto is every where now.

[@KevinSmith-qi5yn]

People left most major cities, so it may seem like the ghetto is growing in many cities. In other major cities there is rapid growth, like the Metroplex in Texas. There is also a revival of rural areas.

[@foodhasastory5605]

There's much truth in what you said here. No pride or purpose in work leads to an angry or unhappy person overall. Without some sense of community, the person or group sees no purpose.

[@EMO_alpha]

@@KevinSmith-qi5yn I mean more the sense of existential stagnation that is associated with the ghetto is everywhere. The fatherlessness, the hopelessness, the social morbidity, the dependance on the state, etc.

[@The.world.has.gone.crazy...]

The reason youth thinks different about working is becouse they need multiple jobs to survive. Cant afford homes, dont have a future like theire parents and grandparents before them. Working 80hours and no family time is not work its slavery.

[@gcod3d161]

“The world is a ghetto for you and me”

[@christopherarmstrong2710]

17:17 The younger generation seem to don't want to work 25:30 Figure out what the higher purpose of your business is - whatever that is, that's always going to be in value creation for other people. You're creating some value for other people, otherwise you wouldn't have a business in the first place. 26:00 CC is being co-opted. It's a management philosophy, not a governance system. CC is being conflated with ESG. 28:00 It's so much easier to get capital now than in the 60's and 70's for entrepreneurs. 34:55 Socialists are marching through the institutions and taking everything over

[@paulvalentine4157]

This Mackey Dude is more than half to blame. He pampers them and the attitude of the workers there has always been antagonistic toward customers.

[@neuuser7071]

Absolutely agreed. The corporate class is enabling the socialism game to play out while they steal from the middle.

[@robh3007]

I'd rather kayak across the Atlantic naked with an angry rabid wolverine in my lap than shop at Whole Foods. But I do go there from time to time for the same reason many people go to the zoo.

[@TV-ob1if]

Never experienced that at any Whole Foods

[@ricardocantoral7672]

Whole Foods is expensive as hell but it's only place where I can buy gluten free flat bread.

[@tann_man]

Too difficult to make yourself?

[@ricardocantoral7672]

@@tann_man It's cheaper to do make a lot of things.

[@tann_man]

@@ricardocantoral7672 why don't you?

[@ZenPiano1000]

This headline makes me angry. The capitalists won. You're rich, the working class is poor. It's not a good look to complain about winning, that's called punching down. Meanwhile we're trying to figure out how to afford the food in your store.

[@badmofaux]

Pro tip: Shop someplace else.

[@franciscodanconia4324]

Nick, Texas has always been conservative. And always been one of the most free places to live. Just because we think a baby has a right to life regardless of whether another human being thinks they do or not, doesn't mean we're not free. It means we're more free. That's what I don't understand about Libertarians like you. One of the most basic freedoms is the freedom to actually live. Can't exactly pursue your dreams and freedom if you're sucked out of your mother's womb with a vacuum and some scissors just because you're inconvenient to your mother.

[@nosouponhead]

Nick lives in NYC, so he has to love abortion.

[@seanm3558]

It's either the woman's choice, or it's the government's choice. And it ain't the government's choice. That's about as clear as I can figure it.

[@franciscodanconia4324]

@@seanm3558 Sorry but you don't get to make a choice whether someone else lives or dies for your convenience.

[@seanm3558]

@@franciscodanconia4324 Ok, you used the word convenience again. What about if the mother was raped? Or underaged? Or had a high risk of death or life changing injury? Or had a history of mental illness which, through no fault of her own, would likely make her unable to provide care? Those reasons wouldn't fall under "convenience" would they?

[@zwerko]

Do children have the right to their parents' organs in case of an organ failure? Does a mother have to give her 3yr old child a kidney because the child would die otherwise and, as we know, the child has the right to actually live? If yes, you're insane. If no, how come an unborn child has more right to their mothers' body than a born one?

[@joshabbott5622]

Coming from a staunch Capitalist: It's not that people don't want to work, but the incentives have significantly diminished as compared to the previous generation. What's the point if wages and probability of advancement don't pave the way to buy a house, start a family, rent a 1 bedroom apartment, or provide the needs to meet basic living standards in most cities/states. If there's no prospect for the present and or future, then there's little motivation to work at all.

[@DegreesOfThree]

Phones are also a huge distraction. In John's day, there wasn't anything to do except work or play in the dirt.

[@seankelly819]

Boomers don’t want to hear this

[@GregKingston]

I see your point, but there is also no drive for people to start at the bottom and work up. Somebody working a low skill job thinks that they should be making the same salary as a high skill worker. There is a sense of entitlement and the idea of saving up for a house or car is not something younger workers can comprehend.

[@communityrags6048]

Per capita COVID deaths in New Zealand are a fraction of a fraction of those in the United States. But of course, the economy was soooo much more important than peoples' lives, right?

[@msmintjuleps]

Great interview.

[@hipoint40cal39]

I would settle for regulating capitalism and the economy.

[@andreathompson9605]

I love Mackey so much!

[@mattcat83]

I'm not saying you need to conduct interviews in a studio booth, but can you at least find a space where there isn't someone on a mic shouting to a roaring crowd in the background? It's incredibly distracting.

[@djjccc1589]

Let the person you interview finish their sentences…annoying that an interviewer disrupts the speaker so much…ugh!

[@FEV369]

I don't know John very well, but I wouldn't mind his crazy talk sound something like, "My name is in the hat for Libertarian candidates."

[@derrick4179]

Nick is starting to look like a woke person disguising himself as a libertarian

[@communityrags6048]

"The socialists are taking over..." I should hope so... capitalism isn't exactly singing for its supper at the moment, is it? It has quite some work to do to prove its worth.

[@billybatson8657]

Name 100 iconic, innovative businesses. Then, list the countries that they were created in. Virtually ALL of them will be from the United States or Japan, the only 2 real capitalist societies on the planet. I rest my case.

[@communityrags6048]

@@billybatson8657 And that has noting to do with the size of their population? What about New Zealand? It has a small population and "innovative businesses" and a socialist approach and none of that dodgy Boris Johnson / Donald Trump lunacy.

[@endresebok8272]

Nick is almost 60!? Wow. That juice seems really working.

[@MikeEnRegalia]

Have taken over. World-wide.

[@awsumguy-bh9pz]

bro i thought whole foods was for liberals and its run by this conservative guy lmao

[@billybatson8657]

Not sure I would call him a "conservative". He believes in "conscious capitalism", which is technically socialism light.

[@jameslabs1]

Amen

[@AndreAngelantoni]

Good interview but he's totally wrong about veganism being the solution. Humans have been meat eaters for millions of years. People lose weight and improve their blood markers by going paleo, keto or carnivore.

[@SophiaDalke]

Sponsor: coffee bad, buy our coffee instead because... Mushrooms? Oh, and it's weaker, but that's a selling point, we swear!

[@PSergioSerrato]

Good interview. Mackey is such an interesting figure. Good leader.

[@ferulebezel]

No challenge on the fake medicine racket that's right in the middle of their stores.

[@jcdenton631]

Milk toast boomer ass normie ass simps all of em

[@yukozuna1130]

#CommunistsArentPeople

[@livetosmileandlaugh5368]

Great interview!

[@Ayo22210]

Mackey for president

[@Fitnessat40years]

I agree with him 100 percent. What have the colleges and schools done with the minds of the youth. The world is going to run over them hard.

[@BryanDeLauder]

This man said f it I'm retiring.

[@MacSmithVideo]

Compare wages from his 20s to now. His father was the CEO of a healthcare company. He's never done manual labor in his life. He's for unlimited immigration.

[@mikewallis2987]

Commies get led.

[@jonlieberman997]

Great discussion. From an audio technical standpoint the recording is hard to listen to because of some bleed over from a different conversation.

[@sheldoniusRex]

Socialists are only taking over because nationalism is now considered verboten. Nationalism is the *ONLY* antidote to socialism. The organized barbarian will always overrun and slaughter the anarchist society. Of course nationalism has the potential to descent into tyranny, but without the organization of resistance to the barbarians the descent into tyranny is guaranteed. A nation can be built with limits on it's power. The rights to speak freely and own infantry weapons are two limits on state power which go a long way to limiting tyranny. The rights to property and association are a given, and are the primary thing nations are founded to defend. Embracing nationalism does not necessitate the loss of these rights, nor most others. But we *must* foster a national identity or risk having our enemies popularize one in opposition to us. We *must* defend our borders or risk our enemies infiltrate us. We *must* have one common law for everyone to follow or risk special interest groups dominating the rest of us. And we *must* insist on a commonly held culture or risk being divided so that there is no us.

[@bladeswelove]

Nick, let the guy talk....jeez.

[@peapod8]

Great interview, but Nick needs to step back, don't interupt, let the man speak.

[@dinosore4782]

That’s a good thing mr charge 15$ for an empty glass bottle

[@migueljavierayup7634]

I stopped listening when the coffee issue popped up. It made the whole interview close to worthless. Sorry

[@Komodo1312]

Soon we will have statues of Lenin and Stalin all over the America!!! This is scary!!!

[@billybatson8657]

Liberal brownshirts have spent the last 6 years tearing down the old statues to make way for new ones, once they finish their permanent government takeover by packing the Supreme Court and eliminating the filibuster.

[@frankwhite3659]

And I feel like I should stop buying your products.

[@markboler8411]

I like the interview, but the background noise with the person in the background yelling at times was extremely distracting.

[@PurpleGhost666]

Liberty and Capitalism Ah.............

[@susanhawkins3890]

They are!!!!

[@zwerko]

Whole Foods sells homeopathic, hmm, 'concoctions'? Mackey has no right to talk about vaccines or medicine in general, I agree with most of the rest he stated.

[@hardknoxblount]

Everyone has every right to talk about whatever they wish.

[@jtzutube]

Well,...have you SEEN WHO WORKS in WF stores?! DUH!

[@pandafox12]

I did enjoy John's book on conscious capitalism, but it was a backdoor to ESG and other socialist nonsense. Better to keep businesses focused on profits (that obviously does not allow you to ignore other stakeholders)

[@zacboyles1396]

You’re missing the bigger picture. We save costs letting employees blurt out social justice nonsense, even write off marketing material if it fits the ESG narrative. Then the traditional socialism, the stuff that costs taxes we completely ignore, don’t cover heath care, time off, holiday time, maternal (male birthing person time-starting to see my point) leave. Enter ESG - the stock market and commodities are going to be fire. We can trade plots of Amazon with yield based on carbon filtration per square foot, ocean, or forest based on foods taken out, energy processing, we can package up human labor backed securities with ESG ratings to help with the rating. This is the next level of capitalism and the “socialists” who would have put up a fight are all distracted discussing race and 43 genders. And this guy thinks socialism is taking over! 😂 😆 😂

[@brigitte9999]

Well, he himself sold out to Amazon. Didn’t that contribute to this problem. The first worst thing he did was buy, Wild Oats. Wild Oats was wonderful but after he bought it I was forced to buy somethings from Amazon.

[@User-54631]

1st world problems.

[@mte874]

👌👌🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲 #BuyWholeFoods

[@mehtacotute]

Took over*

[@KnutLiberty]

Hmm, ever considering donating to Libertarian candidates so they can compete (capitalistically) with the socialists... erm, the Republicans and Democrats?

[@pe7143]

Mackey courageous to be honest despite the woke cancel mob. (No replies read)

[@petereberle]

I’m not sure what you mean by empathy… 😂he should run for president

[@briannerk3373]

This man knows no limits to his greed. Its insane how he throws tantrums, what despicable infantalism

[@tcorourke2007]

Would you care to provide some examples to justify your vague insults?

[@briannerk3373]

@@tcorourke2007 MY watching my probably asthmatic elderly coworker hunched over cleaning the isles of the Whole foods I worked at during the height of the covid pandemic; meanwhile, posting record breaking profit banners on the bulletin board near the shift punch out machine while at the same time cutting employee health benefits and then despite record breaking profits during the first 2 years of the pandemic workers not getting any kind of raise in their wages despite working on the front lines pre-vaccines. Not providing us with masks and then getting around the state mandated customer in store limits via hiring a million amazon bagers to work int he grocery store which made it as crowded if not even more. Yet he cries about the "socialists" taking over while he sits on his 100 million dollars. It's sickening and insane.

[@tcorourke2007]

@@briannerk3373 You lost me at "probably asthmatic".

[@briannerk3373]

@@tcorourke2007 Why? IDK if he had asthma or not; but he did have trouble breathing and would wheeze so it looked like it.

[@cat-tzu1234]

A rich guy likes capitalism. Doesn't like socialism. Big news!

[@TheTyty2010]

Your company was bought out by crony capitalists but socialists are your worries? 😂😂😂

[@tonywhite2567]

This guy says the overflowing bounty, well boys let's wrap it up no need to follow that.

[@johnselden9257]

I can’t wait to hear this guy actually speak his mind. Very fair minded gentleman he is. “Abortion is a fundamental right” is such a broad statement and it really needs to be refined. Fundamental right according to who exactly? I don’t have a fundamental right to go and kill my neighbor so why should it be a fundamental right to kill a human baby who can feel pain?

[@zwerko]

An eight week embryo neither can feel pain nor is a human baby. One could credibly argue that most plans can feel more pain than any embryo and even fetuses up until the last trimester. And what about the mother, mother can also feel pain, much better than any baby at any stage of development, why is the baby more important then the mother? Does the mother owe her body to the (unborn) baby?

[@johnselden9257]

@@zwerko Did I say an 8 week old baby? I believe he was talking about 2nd and 3rd trimester abortions. I don’t think a baby is able to feel pain until something like 14 weeks. Abort your babies in the first trimester to your heart’s content….even though it still shouldn’t be thought of as a “human right”. Incest and rape accounts for I believe less than a .1% of abortions (or it is something very low like that). Outside of those instances and extreme health risks to the mother (also incredibly rare with modern medicine), 2nd and especially 3rd trimester abortions shouldn’t be allowed.

[@ThatsMrPencilneck2U]

If you want to see "socialism" in America, look up "Standard Oil." The fact is, over the last couple of hundred years, we've had less socialism, not more.

[@LegalAutomation]

Care to expand on that? What am I looking for when I "look up Standard Oil"? Their share price? Their profit margins? Their history?

[@ThatsMrPencilneck2U]

@@LegalAutomation Standard oil was a huge corporation that was dismantled by the government about 150 years ago. Free markets are good for everybody, but capitalism creates monopolies, which allows entities to corner markets. When our government was more representative, it used to break up monopolies for the common good. This is the basic notion of socialism.

[@philbridges3033]

They are. Perhaps you and your corporate homies should have thought about that earlier when you jumped on board with the woke investment firms for a temporary spike in your ESG scores.

[@UnpepperedAngus]

Trader Joe's > Whole Foods

[@JakeWitmer]

Both are anti-American, and disallow speech on their tax-financed parking lots, unlike Sears, K-Mart, and Giant Foods. Basic Civics doesn't work if everyone stays in their cars, and the few places with foot traffic say, "Shut up and shop, slave!"

[@UnpepperedAngus]

@@JakeWitmer umm what??? How many parking lots have you been kicked out of?

[@JakeWitmer]

@@UnpepperedAngus umm duh? umm hur de durr??? ...Every political activist who's worth a shit has been kicked out of hundreds of locations, assuming they've worked more than a year, as I did. This is because district-specific work is the only work that's useful and valid to people trying to put constitutionalists on ballots. (And all political activists have to go into districts where there are no locations with foot traffic, since everyone drives cars. ...And since much of this work is purposefully timed by the incumbent totalitarians to have to be done in the winter. ...And, in many places, there are no train stations, or city side-walks.) Parking lots typically don't notice you or kick you out prior to your being able to get 50 or so signatures, so at a bare minimum rate of $1/signature, that's $50 for about 2.5 hours of work, unless they're "exceptionally totalitarian, un-American, and intolerant" corporations. (...as corporations like Whole Foods, Lowe's, and Target all are). Contrast this experience with what Alexis de Tocqueville describes in "Democracy in America" to discover how vastly far we've fallen from being a free society (in the North, anyway), where it's expected that businesses would stand up alongside their enlightened customers against purposeful attempts to limit access to ballots. ...That America is mostly dead and gone...killed by an uninformed electorate...made purposefully uninformed by the government youth propaganda camps euphemistically called "public schools." ...A nation too dumb to understand what freedom is ...will soon have none.

[@larnolarno6800]

Businesses and schools reflect society at large. There is no 'takeover'

[@alabama2uz]

He's a few decades late.

[@charlestheodoreheissman8418]

40 years of far too little, far too late, as-hols.

[@JakeWitmer]

Yep. ...And *WHILE HE WAS CEO OF WHOLE FOODS* Mackey officially endorsed a policy of calling the cops on Libertarian Party ballot access petitioners in Whole Foods parking lots. ...So...he didn't even favor the bare minimum level of free speech necessary to even allow the LP to participate...much less WIN. Fuck him. He's a fake, a fraud, and a liar. "With friends like these...it'd take 10,000 years to elect a libertarian majority." ...Compare that to the abolitionists who financed the abolitionist movement, and desperately tried to assist it...even at the risk of their own skin! USA Libertarians are actually anti-libertarians. They have no desire to see libertarianism win. They do not take a position of "radical ownership." As such, they're just consuming resources that could be directed toward a serious libertarian effort.

[@bthemedia]

34:40 For the headline quote

[@susancorvalan6765]

Capitalism with profit and without crooks and ripoffs.

[@The.world.has.gone.crazy...]

A ceo will never like socialism becouse that would mean more taxes for them.

[@glennvastine4118]

Great interview!!!!! Smart guy and grounded.