Whole Room Water Cooling Part 7 - It's FINALLY over!

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Could our whole room water cooling loop finally be on the road to completion, and hopefully stability?
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@RightNow978
@RightNow978 8 жыл бұрын
AC Unit = $200-400 Water cooling a room: Priceless
@makunouchiippo2542
@makunouchiippo2542 4 жыл бұрын
What about the lulz ?
@rcblitzfpv8346
@rcblitzfpv8346 4 жыл бұрын
What about a fucking fan
@omgwtfhaxfan1221003
@omgwtfhaxfan1221003 4 жыл бұрын
@@rcblitzfpv8346 a fan only blows air ,it doesnt cool it. those SPACE HEATERS of computers require cooler air. so a f**king fan would not be enough to cool those computers.
@rcblitzfpv8346
@rcblitzfpv8346 4 жыл бұрын
omgwtfhaxfan1221003 no for the fucking people
@cercaz
@cercaz 4 жыл бұрын
@@rcblitzfpv8346 reread his comment, that room would be an oven. With a fan you're just moving oven air around yourself
@wiertara1337
@wiertara1337 8 жыл бұрын
I would fill the entire room with mineral oil. That would solve all the problems.
@Bowowowification
@Bowowowification 8 жыл бұрын
+Wojtek Kiraga You would what the entire room?
@wiertara1337
@wiertara1337 8 жыл бұрын
Bowowowification fill* Sorry, my brain overheated and throttled too much, so I could type that sentence correctly.
@Stevethe11th
@Stevethe11th 8 жыл бұрын
+Wojtek Kiraga damn savage
@minirock000
@minirock000 8 жыл бұрын
+RyuDarragh I do not think it was freon they used in that movie. Freon is not to ingested! ACGIH gives the TLV at 1000ppm. Freon is basically methane, do not breathe it. :)
@karthiknaik3944
@karthiknaik3944 8 жыл бұрын
he could have just bought a good aircon instead
@mycommentpwnz
@mycommentpwnz 5 жыл бұрын
Linus, I just watched all 7 of these video's, and subsequently wanted to express something: although your vision/idea didn't exactly work-out as planned, I still find it very admirable you had the will-power, dedication, and focus to finish this mammoth of a project. Honestly, I think this "failure" might have been one of your most impressive builds ever. Because, I KNOW I would have quit in video 2 or 3, and just would have decided to have each PC run on it's own closed-loop.
@higihups
@higihups 2 жыл бұрын
@@paperman9708 Those Noctua fans they used were supposed to be water and dust proof. I guess they cleaned and reused them.
@deon91
@deon91 Жыл бұрын
@@paperman9708 That's strange because I've literally run case fans underwater just to see if I could and they worked!
@MrTwisted003
@MrTwisted003 5 жыл бұрын
Here's where you could've made it functional and worth it... 1) First, no copper pipe. Use PVC. Much easier to work with and less overall corrosion. Growth is another thing, see #3. 2) Second, it would've helped your pumps quite a bit to not have to push so much water up so high (the gravity force of the water going down the other side does not negate this). Bring the pipe down below the [electrical] plugs. Also the long pipe leads that connect to each station should've been much shorter, which would've been if the main pipes were lower. And don't forget, that the main pipe also should've been a size or two bigger than each terminal size, to optimize the flow rate throughout the system, preventing any one system from choking on a lack of flow. Then each system would only be responsible for pushing fluid a short distance with less restriction. 3) Third, I would've used a plastic tote/container (even a glass tank) instead of a metal reservoir. It's much easier to rinse, clean, replace, and/or top off (evaporation, cause not sealed). It's also easier to check on and add your additives when needed, not to mention easier to just refresh the system as a preventative measure. Make sure this IS placed at a higher elevation than rest of system if not sealed! 4) Fourth, I definitely would've removed both windows (they come out of the frame easily) and created a box for the radiators to fit within the window frame. Very easy to then connect a box fan to just push hot air out, or reverse it to warm air blown into the room during winter. Hell, I would've even opt'd for an automotive radiator for this job...cheaper and more volume and air flow. Final, yes I know this is an old video, but who knows if you guys will ever try this again, properly, for an effective cooling solution. :)
@Coderjo.
@Coderjo. 4 жыл бұрын
Additionally, the far end of the loop should have had the system on tees still and then the cold and hot lines of the main loop connected with a smaller size pipe. This would have allowed the main pump(s) to push the air through easier. at each system, the air would rise to the main loop pipes, and then that would be carried through the connection at the far end.
@CreidDesmodus
@CreidDesmodus 4 жыл бұрын
well said mrtwisted, the box fan in the winter is a really interesting idea to... i was thinking the entire time watching these videos about them just usin a vehicle rad and fan (or simple box fan)... probably wouldve been easier/cheaper/and just as, if not, more effective
@stephanweinberger
@stephanweinberger 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, the reservoir should have been mounted higher than the computers and the distribution pipe at the bottom of the wall. That way the pumps would have had much less work to do (in terms of height as well as flow resistance, as the piping would have been a lot shorter overall). Plus: add a vent valve at the highest point in the loop. And good point to use a car radiator (and a proper fan).
@RicardoSchaal
@RicardoSchaal 4 жыл бұрын
They could also have done a mix: one copper pipe and one insulated copper (or C/PVC) pipe. By doing this: - In summer, it wouldn´t heat up the room; - In winter, they could invert the flow, so it would indeed heat up the room; - It would dismiss the extra radiators over the PCs. What I just didn´t get it is why are the pipes at so high level? Couldn´t they be near the ground or a little bit lower than a desk height? That would have saved: - Around 1/4 of pipes; - Pumping; - Water and additives; - And it would also heat up better the room in winter.
@isaackarjala7916
@isaackarjala7916 4 жыл бұрын
I think putting a liquid-liquid heat exchanger between the individual computers and the shared loop would of been good.
@ChromeFilms77
@ChromeFilms77 9 жыл бұрын
will you be water cooling the firepole?
@MatthewBarrett
@MatthewBarrett 9 жыл бұрын
ChromeFilms77 xD
@Squidward1314
@Squidward1314 9 жыл бұрын
firepole! -.-
@goughy000
@goughy000 9 жыл бұрын
This
@JamesBalazs
@JamesBalazs 9 жыл бұрын
Giant cylindrical radiator! Wouldn't be too comfortable to slide down though... Might be a bit stabby.
@ChromeFilms77
@ChromeFilms77 9 жыл бұрын
TheRebel3000 ehh its just safety hazards
@Mrgibsonchan
@Mrgibsonchan 9 жыл бұрын
I'm glad they did this whole room water cooling project. To me, its more of a proof of concept and i think they did pretty well. Great job even though you are moving to a new place !!! Love to see more projects like this in the new place !!
@chrishaselden
@chrishaselden 9 жыл бұрын
Gibson Chan Agreed
@LolAddictor
@LolAddictor 9 жыл бұрын
I hope thy don't tear it off it looks better as a decoration
@matts.1352
@matts.1352 9 жыл бұрын
Smashing Ryan They could even disconnect all systems from it and just run cold water through the loop; that might help with room temps without much additional cost.
@chrishaselden
@chrishaselden 9 жыл бұрын
***** Sometimes those are the funnest things.
@markasiala6355
@markasiala6355 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else seeing this for the first time after Linus' link in his bioluminescent video? Pretty cool snapshot into history for me as I hadn't started following him until a few years ago.
@n00dl3s
@n00dl3s 2 жыл бұрын
Same. This was a cool "before it got massive" peek. Also I can basically smell that room.
@dpearson80808
@dpearson80808 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah hey! Same. Pretty cool getting to feel totally baller with my current system having a GPU that is ~200% faster effective speed than what was top of the line $1200 kit at the time of filming. And my R5 3600x having six cores is like middle of the road currently but the Xeon CPUs they were using for their editing rigs were only 6c. And 32GB of RAM was seen as a lot and now I have it and while it’s not necessary for gaming it’s certainly not bonkers overkill these days. Oh yeah and 6GB VRAM was the extra that the Titan card got but now a 2060 has 8GB, a 3060 has 12GB amd god the 3090 has friggin 24GB VRAM! Pretty crazy what only 6 years of PC component development has given us!
@bluewepener2721
@bluewepener2721 2 жыл бұрын
Yup
@de1zue
@de1zue 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@Dtr146
@Dtr146 7 жыл бұрын
put a damn curtain up and you would auto see a 5 degree diff
@xtdycxtfuv9353
@xtdycxtfuv9353 5 жыл бұрын
Hydra Jamm is there a fucking problem with that
@xtune5731
@xtune5731 4 жыл бұрын
@@Swapnil638 never heard of leds?
@brando12343
@brando12343 4 жыл бұрын
@@xtune5731 LEDs still require transformers that put out heat due to inefficiency, LEDs themselves also kick out a lot of heat, they are still way more efficient and output more light then conventional bulbs but if your talking room lighting they still do produce a pretty significant amount of heat
@666Tomato666
@666Tomato666 3 жыл бұрын
@@brando12343 sunlight puts in kilowatts of power through a window this size, if your LEDs take this much power you're running hydroponics, not office space
@jonny6702
@jonny6702 3 жыл бұрын
@@666Tomato666 There's no reason my rare Jamaican tomato plants cant be a different temperature than me. No excuses.
@ShadowXSAP
@ShadowXSAP 8 жыл бұрын
4:09 I absolutely lost it. What a legend.
@MikopGames
@MikopGames 8 жыл бұрын
XD
@Tx_Jay_
@Tx_Jay_ 8 жыл бұрын
lol I know right
@mightylink65
@mightylink65 8 жыл бұрын
"Bathroom / Server Room" Never thought I would hear that in my life.
@Wick3DPimP
@Wick3DPimP 8 жыл бұрын
See Hillary Clinton for more details.
@QuantumRads
@QuantumRads 8 жыл бұрын
+Wick3DPimP XD
@chasethememe1251
@chasethememe1251 8 жыл бұрын
Same place Niantic is running Pokemon GO from
@M3A7
@M3A7 8 жыл бұрын
So you didn't hear about Hillary Clinton's server?
@Wick3DPimP
@Wick3DPimP 8 жыл бұрын
M34T Yea bathroom servers are all the rage when you want to "flush" files quick and in a hurry. :)
@chrisscerbo5731
@chrisscerbo5731 4 жыл бұрын
I know this is old but definitely enjoyed this series. I'm an hvac/plumber so it was definitely cool watching this whole project.
@tommylanham9287
@tommylanham9287 7 жыл бұрын
Why not insulate the copper piping, or use PEX or something that will not radiate the heat straight back into the room.
@KrKrypton
@KrKrypton 4 жыл бұрын
Was about to say exactly that, insulation is cheap.
@Kryosaki
@Kryosaki 4 жыл бұрын
Because that makes too much sense.
@NecumNaTo
@NecumNaTo 4 жыл бұрын
7:53
@isaackarjala7916
@isaackarjala7916 4 жыл бұрын
PEX would need to be protected from UV, but yeah
@MrBrightstone
@MrBrightstone 4 жыл бұрын
wise man..
@Dandana52
@Dandana52 8 жыл бұрын
buy air con? orrr get 6 million+ views on the whole series? the choices
@africuz.mp4
@africuz.mp4 8 жыл бұрын
This is what people are missing. The air con is easily the more practical option, but the entertaining option is building a horribly elaborate system with the exact same function.
@jonathanoxlade4252
@jonathanoxlade4252 7 жыл бұрын
yea I Better buy thermal heat clothing and then freeze my room below fucking zero good luck trying to play a game and trying not to freeze to death aswel
@africuz.mp4
@africuz.mp4 7 жыл бұрын
Exactly _lh3.googleusercontent.com/hMwe4nf-kiZhQbQdAAB1O7PNV9NOyc3t_MsZ5XuoZ83OlCvdeKr5OSbVqokj9ORezbdnc_zSz7w_
@enlightendbel
@enlightendbel 7 жыл бұрын
Get 6 Million+ views on the whole series and THEN buy aircon from the revenue?
@-_-Code-_-
@-_-Code-_- 6 жыл бұрын
nope, then buy/build an entire new building.
@XZenon
@XZenon 8 жыл бұрын
I think cuz' you're using uninsulated copper pipes, most of the heat gets released in your room...
@jerod5636
@jerod5636 8 жыл бұрын
+FieryWingedAngel My instant thought as well.
@yojgee
@yojgee 8 жыл бұрын
Linus pointed that out
@XZenon
@XZenon 8 жыл бұрын
Jack Graybird Oh.
@billcosbyeatsbabies9947
@billcosbyeatsbabies9947 8 жыл бұрын
+FieryWingedAngel Maybe PEX tubing instead?
@Borderline113
@Borderline113 8 жыл бұрын
+FieryWingedAngel I would be interested to see what happens if they attempted to place foam pipe insulators on the piping, additionally, the plastic tank is really a must have. Metal tanks will never be containment free.
@alanbrown397
@alanbrown397 7 жыл бұрын
Whilst you might call it a fail, the noise win is probably worth it alone, especially in a room full of workstations. Yes to other commenters: Whole room AC works fine in a server room., but the average server room runs at 85-90dBA and is NOT a pleasant working environment. If you can put the noisy bits outside or in an acoustic cabinet without overheating them, then its always worthwhile. Comments: 1: Contamination/corrosion: This will always happen due to dissimilar metals in the blocks and suchlike. You _need_ to have sediment filters and cathodic protection in the loop from day one. Drinking water spindown filters are cheap and readily available.Massively oversize it to reduce flow resistance. Couple with something like a Lakos twistiiclean to take care of the big bits and you'll probably never need to change it. 2: Bus vs spur piping. Why are these the same diameter? You should be using larger diameter on the distribution piping to reduce flow resistance and turbulence effects at the pipe junctions. The higher temps you're seeing at the end of the run is because of that. 3: Definitely use PVC or some other kind of insulated piping. Butynol is easier to work with and more than adequate for the temperatures involved. There are pressfit and crimp connections for this kind of pipework. Pretty? No. But to be honest, nor is that copper piping. Put it in some trunking. 4: Get rid of the opaque dye. if anything goes wrong you want to be able to see what happened and inspecting for gunk is much easier if the medium is transparent. UV-reactive transparent dye works well for leak detection. 5: The outdoor unit will be more effective if you arrange a recirculating waterfall/mister on it (adiabatic cooling). This assumes you don't mind the water bill but it's still cheaper than active cooling systems. if you go for this, make sure you have a uv steriliser in the waterfall loop (legionella is nasty).
@benhook1013
@benhook1013 6 жыл бұрын
Apart from the fact that they had to introduce pumps in each workstation to make the flow work >.> I don't imagine those are unnoticeable.
@99Etien
@99Etien 5 жыл бұрын
@@benhook1013 If iam not mistaken those run just if they are not conected to the system
@benhook1013
@benhook1013 5 жыл бұрын
@Etien Don't think so, such a large system, the pressure would be too great to run just off the pump in the bathroom. When they disconnect/reconnect they only change the connections on the back of the computer, didn't see them mess around with the pumps each time.
@99Etien
@99Etien 5 жыл бұрын
@@benhook1013 Then why did they need the second pump to flush out the PC individually? At some point he even put the pump out of a PC when he reconnected it to the system
@l2m773
@l2m773 5 жыл бұрын
exaxtlt
@andrewhigginbottom6525
@andrewhigginbottom6525 7 жыл бұрын
The heat was taken out of the computers and radiated into the room through the wall of the copper pipes. So basically you took the pc radiator and fixed it to the wall, hence the room temperature didn't change. To get the heat out of the room, you needed to insulate the copper pipes so the heat would be shunted outside.
@drippingwax
@drippingwax 5 жыл бұрын
Foam pipe insulation is cheap!
@Scumsuckingpigmonkey
@Scumsuckingpigmonkey 5 жыл бұрын
Nail on the head!.. I'm from the UK and I would have used Barrier Twin wall plastic pipe (there's a reason copper heat sinks work so well ;) ) and boxed and insulated it.
@namihiko8678
@namihiko8678 5 жыл бұрын
For how smart he is, I don't understand how he missed that
@tinglestingles
@tinglestingles 5 жыл бұрын
@@Scumsuckingpigmonkey Yeah, first thing I thought, box it... !
@devtest4327
@devtest4327 5 жыл бұрын
How cold he use a copper pipe?
@_mew
@_mew 9 жыл бұрын
**insert obligatory "LINUS Y R U DOIN DIS IF U MOVIN INTO A NEW OFFICE???!!" comment here**
@hockeystud38
@hockeystud38 9 жыл бұрын
Mew [Jacob/PwnAzn] Goto 9:50 that has your answer.
@AllenSunnyD
@AllenSunnyD 9 жыл бұрын
Kill3rpanda ...I have no words for you...
@GriggsHw
@GriggsHw 9 жыл бұрын
Kill3rpanda He is being sarcastic, cuz so many people comment about this even when Linus explained so many times in the videos. Since part 1 which was released last year.
@lars7935
@lars7935 9 жыл бұрын
Mew [Jacob/PwnAzn] Firepole
@GriggsHw
@GriggsHw 9 жыл бұрын
***** What I mean is Linus been explaining this since the part 1 of the videos, and people are still asking why, like you over here, not he knew he was going to move in since part 1. In fact, the opposite is true, they didn't know they are going to move when they started doing this.
@PeteringYT
@PeteringYT 9 жыл бұрын
Whoever buys this house when you guys move into the new place is going to be like WTF is up with all these pipes..
@BizzMRK
@BizzMRK 9 жыл бұрын
PeterOnTheInterwebs you relize that you can simply take the copper pipes with you when you move right?
@imthevictorr
@imthevictorr 9 жыл бұрын
PeterOnTheInterwebs A good 40$ pipe cutter would probably take about 10 seconds to cut the copper.
@LolAddictor
@LolAddictor 9 жыл бұрын
It's not the pipes that would matter it what happens when they tear the pipes down ;D On a serious note pipes add 100% decoration, when a buyer walks in it would feel like they just walked into a toilet...
@k35magnum
@k35magnum 9 жыл бұрын
PeterOnTheInterwebs Indoor hot tub.
@ParadoxdesignsOrg
@ParadoxdesignsOrg 9 жыл бұрын
PeterOnTheInterwebs meth lab! breaking bad style
@welshman100
@welshman100 7 жыл бұрын
Have the police been around thinking your growing weed?
@Fatmoron51
@Fatmoron51 7 жыл бұрын
Scrimjaw asking the real questions
@Brenda-fs7ek
@Brenda-fs7ek 7 жыл бұрын
Scrimjaw 😂 true
@Killer1986Chris
@Killer1986Chris 7 жыл бұрын
Thinking his what is growing weed?
@GlaciatorGaming
@GlaciatorGaming 7 жыл бұрын
with that power usage, probably
@EurypharPelecanoides
@EurypharPelecanoides 7 жыл бұрын
I had a mate who got raided by the police because he had a whole room heated for his bearded dragon to live in so I am absolutely certain they'll have crossed that bridge, because it does draw attention.
@fhlipZero
@fhlipZero 7 жыл бұрын
i still watch this series cause it makes me appreciate the work and "hopes and dreams" mentality that makes me love this channel, keep it up!
@thegoldeneagleeye9621
@thegoldeneagleeye9621 9 жыл бұрын
I watch Linus's videos just to see how poor i am ;-;
@tubefile100
@tubefile100 9 жыл бұрын
TheGoldenEagleEye You're not alone.
@cuddles6938
@cuddles6938 9 жыл бұрын
TheGoldenEagleEye Just learn how to BEG real hard and free shit will come to you, grasshopper!
@AVERAGEHATLOGAN
@AVERAGEHATLOGAN 9 жыл бұрын
TekReview's Lol you thnk if i beg linus he'll send me a rig :p I just had to downgrade to ddr2 400mhz ram and a hd 3450 512 gpu. Gone from a constant 30+fps on gtav with the graphics maxed out to around the 20fps range on the lowest possible graphics setting.
@TheCrusaderBin
@TheCrusaderBin 9 жыл бұрын
TheGoldenEagleEye Same. Most people who would win the lottery would probably buy a car first. I would spend the same ammount of cash, but on a new PC...
@AVERAGEHATLOGAN
@AVERAGEHATLOGAN 9 жыл бұрын
snap aha. I've happily given up all my other luxuries for a good PC in the past. I'd do it again in a heart beat aha
@RenegadeenergyincHome
@RenegadeenergyincHome 8 жыл бұрын
Pro tip on using IR thermometers: Put black electrical tape on the section of copper piping where you want to take a measurement. Set emissivity setting to 0.95 if adjustable. Wait 15 minutes, and then take a reading with both laser dots and the space between them over the taped area. This will get you a much more accurate measurement. Or, use a contact thermometer.New copper is highly reflective of infrared energy, so the reading you took in the video is a temperature blend of the actual pipe, your IR tool, the wall, the ceiling, your hands, and your face.If you try this build again, use PEX pipe next time. Have to admire the effort though you put into a poor man's CRAC unit (Computer Room Air Conditioning).
@TheSwartz
@TheSwartz 7 жыл бұрын
My wife right now "I'll divorce you if you even think about it..."
@SlayeCohen
@SlayeCohen 7 жыл бұрын
If you have the money, and want to do something and your wife doesn't like/want it, even if it won't affect her lifestyle, then you marriage is a waste of time and resources, and most important, a waste of your precious life.
@warpatato
@warpatato 7 жыл бұрын
Dude, chill.
@derkeksinator17
@derkeksinator17 7 жыл бұрын
The Swartz I ran my loop through some small tubes below my carpet, so it warms my feet. It's glorious.
@Unknown-sz8kg
@Unknown-sz8kg 6 жыл бұрын
The Swartz typical gold diggers to threaten, never marry a woman.
@therealsamw
@therealsamw 5 жыл бұрын
SlayeCohen I
@Archer_Legend
@Archer_Legend 6 жыл бұрын
Great job in 9 months i passed from pc noob to pro, just by watching many different videos from different youtubers and by studying how parts work and their architectures, thx linus!!
@spokehedz
@spokehedz 9 жыл бұрын
You need to put insulation around the pipes to prevent the heat from getting into the room. I work where we have lasers that generate a ton of heat, and they have a massive watercooling system and they put insulation foam on all the pipes.
@spokehedz
@spokehedz 9 жыл бұрын
They said this in the video, but you should use insulation on all pipes anyway, if you don't want to have the heat in the room. It's cheap, it works, and it really does help out a TON.
@Ultrakillerism
@Ultrakillerism 8 жыл бұрын
+Alexander Borsi Back then one of the guy's dad did the piping, first thing that popped into my mind when I saw the exposed copper was "yep, this will totally expel heat back in the room". He gets points for trying, but, like one guy said, he should have went to a data center to check the latest and greatest in cooling options.
@emremutlu44
@emremutlu44 8 жыл бұрын
+Alexander Borsi Yeah, was seeking the comments to find this answer :) Copper pipes may be good for a heating system to heat the whole room though, it only looks cool :)
@bunnywarren
@bunnywarren 8 жыл бұрын
+Alexander Borsi They probably have a mix of metals in the system which leads to corrosion, especially if they are using water. Water cooling kits use plastic pipes because they flex and don't corrode. They also use a glycol-based coolant with corrosion inhibitors to prevent fungal growth.
@gamloeader
@gamloeader 8 жыл бұрын
+Alexander Borsi the insolation would keep the heat inside the pipes...water wouldnt cool anymore...CPU would stay warm room would stay cool...it would be the same as just turning it of XD
@tosgem
@tosgem 8 жыл бұрын
Should try wrapping all those copper pipes in insulation to stop them leaking heat into the room
@danhealy79
@danhealy79 8 жыл бұрын
+tosgem You do realize that wrapping the pipes with insulation will heat up the water inside the pipes, thus negating any kind of cooling to be done.
@josephjack254
@josephjack254 8 жыл бұрын
+Daniel Healy thats what the radiators are for...
@Vincent_Beers
@Vincent_Beers 8 жыл бұрын
+Daniel Healy You wrap the hot water out going only while it's in the room. That way it radiates outside instead of indoors. You wouldn't need to wrap the incoming "colder" pipes. But still, the easiest option (as he points out) is simply air conditioning. Individually water cooled systems can dissipate enough into the room (if their radiators are large enough) to do what they are trying to do and then you only need to move the warm air out which is far easier to do than moving the hot water around long distances.
@danhealy79
@danhealy79 8 жыл бұрын
***** insulating the pipes keeps the heat in, heading up the water, lowering the amount of heat able to be transferred into the water and having a higher temperature at the CPU.
@tosgem
@tosgem 8 жыл бұрын
+Daniel Healy The objective is to keep the room cooler. This is done by placing the radiator outside of the room so that all heat transfers happen there. By having the pipes exposed, not insulated, the pipes transfer heat into the air in the room instead of transferring outside via the radiator. Yes, the pipes would be cooler if they are not insulated, but only because they are able to transfer their heat into the room. You want that heat trapped in the water and pipes until it gets out to the radiator.
@vegardjohannessen3009
@vegardjohannessen3009 6 жыл бұрын
Can't believe it's been three years since this project. I remember watching it when it was going on and thought it was so awesome to try something like this. Glad you guys made it from a bathroom/server room to the setup you have now :)
@peanutbutter9000
@peanutbutter9000 7 жыл бұрын
The best option (imho) for cooling air temp in your room can be achieved by moving your rigs behind the walls. And through the holes in them pull the cables out for your keyboards etc. We did it in our previous office. Air conditioning is also a must-have. Cheers!
@bromatojuice
@bromatojuice 8 жыл бұрын
the look of defeat when he said a/c would have been a better idea
@sadmanh0
@sadmanh0 8 жыл бұрын
he later mentions that there's somebody from the forums who does the exact same thing but learns from all of Linus' mistakes and it worked perfectly
@ppsarrakis
@ppsarrakis 8 жыл бұрын
but that costs way more electricity...
@jorgecosta95
@jorgecosta95 8 жыл бұрын
Only math can tell us that, don't forget that those are two powerful pumps and since pipes run no insolation, the heat gets trapped inside as well.
@Smys3lf
@Smys3lf 8 жыл бұрын
Pumps will never use as much electricity as an airconditioner. The airconditioner efficiency is about 350w/kw.... mean 1/3 of cold for 2/3 of warm. In fact the idea is not that bad, it surely need some improvements.... coupled with a small airconditionner (as the room is small) it should work just fine. Where a much more powerful a/c would be needed without this installation. Question is: do they really need to save power...???
@irlrp
@irlrp 8 жыл бұрын
A Class A powerful pump for an entire house is 20w lol. A 5w pump could do here.
@Hogidibi
@Hogidibi 8 жыл бұрын
5/5 for the extreme honesty
@InspektorSeb
@InspektorSeb 7 жыл бұрын
But Linus, why did´nt you insulate those pipes :/
@cliffordrowe5885
@cliffordrowe5885 6 жыл бұрын
SupplyPvP exactly what I said
@VostockREvolution
@VostockREvolution 6 жыл бұрын
vi este video siendo el "final" y me dio pena, es obvio q en esos caños de cobre el calor volvia adentro de la pieza, el viejo q los hizo los re cago con tal de hacer su $$$ :v si lo hacian con pura manguera de plastico y aislante termico alrededor en el interior de la habitacion, hubieran logrado algo bastante interesante.
@Xatos1337
@Xatos1337 7 жыл бұрын
You could've gotten an AC unit for the window and I don't know, some fucking blinds and curtains? Naaahhhh.
@djsnowman06
@djsnowman06 7 жыл бұрын
maybe paint the south facing room white lol
@jeremyandrews3292
@jeremyandrews3292 7 жыл бұрын
Well, yes, but that wouldn't have gotten people's attention as much as a weird solution like this one... would you have clicked on this video if they'd done that?
@Xatos1337
@Xatos1337 7 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Andrews No, but how much respect do I have for their common sense solutions now? Will I click again? Doubt it.
@jeremyandrews3292
@jeremyandrews3292 7 жыл бұрын
Fair enough. But I'm going to click again if they try out my idea of covering the entire ceiling and walls with box fans just to see what happens. Would I do it myself? No, but it would be funny to watch them try it.
@Xatos1337
@Xatos1337 7 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Andrews Ha, that would be funny... but box fans pull air from behind them to push forward. If they're on the walls that won't move much air I don't think.
@davidcox2459
@davidcox2459 9 жыл бұрын
So your intake "cold water" is 29.7°C (85.5°F)? Well there's your problem!
@PHUSII
@PHUSII 9 жыл бұрын
David Cox the radiators cant cool the water lower than ambient temp so what is your point? that was the temp outside where the rads are...
@chadkameda565
@chadkameda565 8 жыл бұрын
+PHUSII - It's not the rad, it's the CFMs of the fans. He used computer fans for a job that required something with a much higher output. Believe it or not, but you can generate temperatures approaching 5 Celsius with the right fans, using water as a coolant. Build an inefficient system, and you get an inefficient result. All it takes is one thing to not do it's job correctly.
@beanacomputer
@beanacomputer 8 жыл бұрын
+Chad Kameda I'm curious what would happen if you included a compressor in the mix somehow (i.e. second cooling loop for the the rads.)
@chadkameda565
@chadkameda565 8 жыл бұрын
bflet12 a compressor is used for gas refrigerants, not liquid ones. Partly to house gas in a compressed form when not in use, but also due to the nature of how a gas refrigerant works in a cooling system. A gas cooling unit has 2 rads, one is called the evaporator, and the other is called a condenser. By using the condensing and evaporating functions of the gas refrigerant, it absorbs more temperature, as well as expels it. Remember that the rads for this are assisted by fans, which is actually where you need the fan on the cold side to Pull air through the Evaporator Rad, not Push, otherwise you just push the temperature back into the space you want to cool. The Condenser Rad then has fans that Push, and not Pull, the temperature out of the gas. The compressor then takes the cooled gas and condenses it closer to liquid form, so that it once again benefits the absorption rate of temperature when it re-injects it into the Evaporator. The size of your Rads can certainly make a difference, but the efficiency of your fans is also important. When the fans you use are for a system to remain at room temperature (or ambient), then that is what you shall receive. You would actually need to crunch the numbers for total line length, refrigerant, rad size, and fan CFMs. more fans is not always more efficient, the important thing is how much airflow there is over the looped lines in the rad. Less airflow, less temperature leaves the line by the time a full pass goes through the rad. Hopes this explains.
@beanacomputer
@beanacomputer 8 жыл бұрын
+Chad Kameda That's a nice explanation, but it has nothing to do with what I was talking about, which would be using a second system to cool the rad they already were using. I'm not under any sort of delusions as to the effectiveness of such a setup, but their whole-room system wasn't very well-planned in the first place, and it would be funny to see a refrigerator ripped apart and hooked up to their radiator.
@Tonyplat98
@Tonyplat98 8 жыл бұрын
Well at least you're honest and realized all this was not only impractical but a massive waste of time+resources. Thanks for the videos though it was very entertaining to watch the struggle. #Thestruggleisreal xD
@zacker150
@zacker150 8 жыл бұрын
Now then. For a data center...
@Sh4d0wch40s
@Sh4d0wch40s 8 жыл бұрын
I think the learning aspect and knowledge gained were well worth the time and resources, tho. It's great that they had the opportunity to test it out and do it, even if it didn't work out as expected. They shared the knowledge and now we know that with an even more professional approach a thing like that actually could make sense for some people or institutions.
@jynxmars
@jynxmars 8 жыл бұрын
Definitely a good learning experience. If they'd actually use the heat from the computers for heating the hot water used in the house - for washing clothes and shower and such it might actually have a payback, also heating other parts of the house during the winter - water could be diverted to reservoirs / heat exchangers in other rooms.
@jadon261
@jadon261 8 жыл бұрын
+jynxmars that is a great idea
@jasonmaher4843
@jasonmaher4843 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE efficiency and I LOVE fluid systems. That said you had some pretty funky (ok maybe silly) ideas. But I'm sure the experience paid more dividends than any large company will ever give credit for. I immediately would have gone for a large outlet manifold with a high point bleed and separate lowdown return and filter. But I love efficiency and sometimes it’s down to downcold trial and error. Amazing content and you are an amazing person Linus for taking this deep dive on your own time and dime to learn and also teach.
@0dayCTF
@0dayCTF 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing commitment!
@moonlightaffairs
@moonlightaffairs 8 жыл бұрын
Linus, i admire your adventurous spirit on doing this project. like some guys said in the comments, insulation for the pipes will prevent water from heating up the room before it gets pump out of the room. another thing is the power of the pump, should get a stronger pump since beginning of the project. This actually involve calculating the pressure of the loop before getting the pump. lastly should get a proper radiator, hook the loop up to something like a window unit air con radiator and fan which probably more effective and suitable for outdoor work. well, all on hind side and lips service.
@ADMS11984
@ADMS11984 8 жыл бұрын
someone should have told these guys something about some new invention called... air conditioning
@Wavepush
@Wavepush 8 жыл бұрын
+ADMS11984 Linus already mentioned that in the first video of the series, but I think they were experimenting.
@delacroixp
@delacroixp 6 жыл бұрын
Love to see a re-worked project like this again in the future.
@mrlobbyist2061
@mrlobbyist2061 2 жыл бұрын
this is the second "vlog series" that I have watched and loved. The first one being the server room vlog series. Even in 2022 its a blast! I love the mentality to research and make it all fit... Love yall !
@1st1anarkissed
@1st1anarkissed 8 жыл бұрын
tubing and quick connectors. Keep the system as horizontal as possible, eliminating as many level changes as you can. Use a 5G bucket with a pond pump in it and put algaecide or bleach, etc. into the water or use pure coolant. Keep runs as direct as possible. Install radiator as close to room as you can, use a shade awning to keep the sun off. Tint the windows to block sun into the room. You can probably put the pond pump and bucket in the room in a corner, perhaps inside a rubbermaid tub for peace of mind. Keep it on the same level as the tower connectors and radiator. Free dump the hot water in the radiator, then into the bucket, but pump it back from the bucket to the computers. The height of your radiator should be your maximum rise in the system. Put the pump level with the bottom of the grid. Rent (or buy) a scaffold to do the work on the wall, it's worth it.
@chaumas
@chaumas 8 жыл бұрын
You can get foam insulation for copper pipes. They come as sleeves, and you put them on the pipe. It's specifically for this problem.
@binkman853
@binkman853 5 жыл бұрын
Great series. Thanks!
@dababyboy46
@dababyboy46 4 жыл бұрын
Man I wished I knew you personally. I used to work in Hemodialysis and I worked in the water room system, and we perfected this temperature and water flow systems. I would had loved to had been a part of this project and made it function (sorry to say but look better lol) 10x better :)
@juliancwcwcw
@juliancwcwcw 8 жыл бұрын
at 3.27 someone is watching H3H3 lol
@xeneroxstudios6282
@xeneroxstudios6282 8 жыл бұрын
yeah they are watching h3h3
@juliancwcwcw
@juliancwcwcw 7 жыл бұрын
+Bill Norman Cant remember....
@liamsnyder2248
@liamsnyder2248 7 жыл бұрын
i thought i was the only one
@MrKillah101
@MrKillah101 6 жыл бұрын
berkeeeeeel
@JerryNeutron
@JerryNeutron 9 жыл бұрын
And now for the fun part, removing those loops from each PC
@engsy
@engsy 9 жыл бұрын
***** He said that each machine has it's own rad and the quick release tubing that Luke's dad made (?) should make removing the loops easier. But ya, removing the copper pipes for the next owner would be a pain in the ass
@JerryNeutron
@JerryNeutron 9 жыл бұрын
Bryan Eng watch at 9:50 he says they don't intend to watercool their systems at the new office
@AGamingPand
@AGamingPand 9 жыл бұрын
***** Yeah at the new office they will have completely new systems, so I don't think there is a need to remove the loops.
@timekeep3r
@timekeep3r 9 жыл бұрын
***** Good thing these guys are far from lazy
@makipolo611
@makipolo611 9 жыл бұрын
***** I think he means that they don't intend to do a "whjole room watercooling" at the new office but I think they will watercool every system alone like normal, they just need to add a reservoir and radiators
@zcrib3
@zcrib3 7 жыл бұрын
Idea was cool. But this is pretty much why half-assing large scale stuff doesn't end nicely.
@brando12343
@brando12343 4 жыл бұрын
if they were doing it properly they should've had each computer routed outside and done all the piping outside instead of in the room
@Fa1se_Hope
@Fa1se_Hope 4 жыл бұрын
brando12343 and get complains from every single person in the neighborhood for the house looking like a bird.
@jonny6702
@jonny6702 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fa1se_Hope i rub dog shit on my house because nobody tells me how my house should look
@Shelboooooo
@Shelboooooo 3 жыл бұрын
You rub dog shit on your house?
@GermanKerman
@GermanKerman 3 жыл бұрын
@@Shelboooooo did they stutter
@GeoffDaniels07
@GeoffDaniels07 7 жыл бұрын
Came across this video series from a reddit comment and very glad I did. Very informative and seemed like a fun project. Unfortunate that it fell apart as I was right there with you in you enthusiasm for this project to be an alternative solution. Thank you for sharing.
@haifishtime
@haifishtime 9 жыл бұрын
Why dont you just put your PC's in an other room. Sure a bit of cable management but no noise, no heat!
@tokeeptrackofrandomsubs5899
@tokeeptrackofrandomsubs5899 9 жыл бұрын
haifishtime It might be a bit troublesome to get long extension cords for high bandwidth data input (consider that it's an editing room), but yea that is probably more doable for sure. Assuming that data will go onto the fileserver and they'll be working from there that should not be a problem other than finding some convenient way to get the data onto the network. Then getting some setup with forced ventilation in the room with the hardware (or air conditioning, not too familiar with what is practical in the climate) would get the job done keeping both heat and noise out of the places where people are. The only thing I'm not entirely sure about is what the practical maximum length of USB 3.0, display cables etc are before data integrity starts to become an issue. This might need some fancy solutions ;)
@quadrplax
@quadrplax 9 жыл бұрын
ToKeepTrackOfRandomSubs Um, are you thinking the 10gb ethernet would be the issue? That wouldn't be any different, and ethernet cords are designed to be long. All they would need is some 25ft HDMI cables and USB cables with repeaters
@tokeeptrackofrandomsubs5899
@tokeeptrackofrandomsubs5899 9 жыл бұрын
***** Well in that case it should work, I don't keep track of all the details on this channel lately. I wasn't sure about the network and fileserver capacity. In the case of high resolution footage that'd be edited on the PCs first and then the final product gets archived I could see issues happening with multiple people using a lot of bandwidth. But since you mentioned they are using 10 gigabit I'm assuming it should be technically viable for the network to handle the load. I expected potential issues if they had to first get the data onto the PC to process it and then store it on the fileserver. But with that kind of infrastructure you could easily put an "upload station" in the room that is fairly low power and just automatically grabs whatever you insert into it to a place on the fileserver for example to then work with it. That'd still leave a fair bit of heat being generated in the room though, computer monitors, 150-200W per person sitting on a chair (if I remember the guidelines I read up on ages ago perfectly). But Linus already stated their new office will have AC and I wouldn't be surprised if the editors each get some extra space compared to that setup. Many people in a small room without active cooling/ventilation will always warm things up, its what humans do by being alive and having a regulated body temperature. But in a larger room with some kind of ventilation or air conditioning its much less of an issue.
@quadrplax
@quadrplax 9 жыл бұрын
ToKeepTrackOfRandomSubs It seems that the main advantage to this is noise though, and they could have a silent editing room, and also overclock their CPUs and GPUs more since noise isn't an issue
@harzer99
@harzer99 9 жыл бұрын
haifishtime The real question is, why they dont work via a remote desktop. With the server being in the same network latency is pretty low and you can use all of the computing power of the server on one machine.
@thequalm9968
@thequalm9968 8 жыл бұрын
Ok, some tips from a former plumber that runs water cooling on my computers. 1:st Hot pipe should ALWAYS be upper pipe and not under the cold pipe, otherwise the hot pipe heats up the cold pipe. 2:nd in order to get a cooler room you need to insulate the hot pipe to get the maximum amount of heat out of the room, otherwise the hot pipe will heat the room. What you also can do to maximize cooling is to run moisted radiators outside, moist makes cooling more efficient and since they are outside it won't matter to the environment. How you can fit it to your system is up to you to figure out.
@theformulaguy3620
@theformulaguy3620 6 жыл бұрын
This was sofar my favorite of all the LTT video series, although it was not deemed a success I feel with some improvements it can be a great system so this project has inspired me to move my office and studio to a single water cooled system from the PC's right down to the amplifiers ... I am major stoked to begin!! Thanks for the awesome video series I have gained so much valuable insight for my own build.
@Diagnosticsadventures
@Diagnosticsadventures 7 жыл бұрын
i love the fact that you tryed i mean why not im sure it had its ups and downs but was 100% cool as hell watching the series
@TimmyTechTV
@TimmyTechTV 8 жыл бұрын
As Mythbusters says, failure is always an option!
@mtdagar
@mtdagar 8 жыл бұрын
Linus, it doesn't matter if the project was a failure or a success. What matters is you did something entirely different and you had fun doing it. That's all what matters for people like us who always want to experiment things. And that project may not be very 'beneficial' in your case but for someone who is running like 50 high-end over clocked computers in a room, this could be the ultimate cooling solution...
@darksidelead
@darksidelead 8 жыл бұрын
+Meet Dagar not much of an experiment when people who do this for a living i.e. system admins, server providers etc. probably already found the most efficient way to cool cool huge amounts of computers with the best combination of ease of maintenance, performance and practicality.
@shawnkrupianik3672
@shawnkrupianik3672 7 жыл бұрын
Great Project guys I was always wondering how something like this would work!
@chielvandesande3232
@chielvandesande3232 9 жыл бұрын
Beware condensation issues during winter time.
@TheMinimumPC
@TheMinimumPC 9 жыл бұрын
Ever heard of those things called Air conditioners?
@dtester
@dtester 9 жыл бұрын
TheMinimumPC screw AC. I love these experimental fails. Linus is like Tim the tool-man Taylor.
@dillionbrim3725
@dillionbrim3725 9 жыл бұрын
dtester We are lucky that some people these days know who that is. Society is such a joke now you know.
@SportbikerNZ
@SportbikerNZ 6 жыл бұрын
Great series, couldn't stop watching from start to finish.
@snapster5782
@snapster5782 6 жыл бұрын
15 years ago in my old apartment, the kitchen and bedroom shared a wall. I pulled out an old ½ size freezer from the kitchen and uses that space for dual servers. I just put the motherboards on the opposite walls in there. Then I made it accessible from both rooms using doors to be able to service it. In the bedroom I had a desktop with just a keyboard, mouse and monitor + speakers. THAT was REALLY nice... I had upwards to 21 computers, with 18 as servers. FTP, www, pop, CS server & 2 x DC hub's (Direct Connect) with a "Shoutcast server" for hub radio just to mention a few... Ahh. "Those were the days".. FUN memories...
@friskypikachuz
@friskypikachuz 9 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, it's here. Was starting to think it was in a HL3 scenario
@urpoche
@urpoche 8 жыл бұрын
You could get some insulation sleeves for the hot pipes.
@vishnuprabhu6659
@vishnuprabhu6659 5 жыл бұрын
hats off linus.....its a gr8 effort...
@lez8373
@lez8373 7 жыл бұрын
I can't Imagine the power bill at this house JESUS!
@TigerXGame
@TigerXGame 8 жыл бұрын
The little computer radiators are cute and all, but if you're going all balls to the walls and piping up a whole room like some sort of madman, next time just use a big ass AC radiator and figure out a way to hook everything up to that. Those things have 100 times the capacity of that homemade solution and would probably be much more efficient. And yeah, insulating the copper pipes would have helped a ton.
@johnearhart2277
@johnearhart2277 9 жыл бұрын
lol shave that unibrow
@Bryan-T
@Bryan-T 9 жыл бұрын
John Earhart you first.
@raladin3dd
@raladin3dd 9 жыл бұрын
John Earhart That's his signature no man should shave his uni brows >:(
@TheElement911
@TheElement911 7 жыл бұрын
Great badass job.
@kridocaign5722
@kridocaign5722 5 жыл бұрын
Ok, so, skipping the problems you already realized yourself, here's some highlights of what you did wrong: First: You allowed fluids to mix between loops. Cooling loops inside a computer must be tightly controlled and managed by necessity. You need to control the materials and fluid additives you use to prevent problems from developing. Cooling loops in other systems don't require such tight control due to the fact that they simply don't have the same constraints. Instead of running the same fluid through each system and the main loop, you should have had a heat exchanger as a demarcation point so that fluids and problems were always kept isolated. Second: You ran the lines in parallel. If you had the systems connect to one side of a heat exchanger, that would allow for systems to connect and disconnect without any interruption of fluid flow through its segment of the main loop. That means that rather than needing hot side and a cold side you could have all systems connected in series and only have a single loop. This would greatly reduce the requirements for pressure and flow rate, and contrary to what you may expect it would mean no more than a couple of degrees difference between the first and last system in the loop. Third: You had the radiators disconnected from the systems in normal operation. You should have had them connected to the loop in parallel with the heat exchanger, and used a gang valve to cut off fluid flow when not in use. That would make it so that the ONLY time you would need to touch a system's quick disconnects would be when that specific system needed to be moved. As the radiator would be connected in parallel with the main loop, the only action people would have to take to prepare for maintenance of the main loop would be to turn the gang valve and allow fluid to flow through the radiator. Fourth: You used ethylene glycol. Do not use ethylene glycol. Just don't. There are so many better options out there that aren't nearly so hazardous for human health. Instead, use propylene glycol. It's safe enough that it's approved for use in food processing equipment. Further, ethylene glycol gradually dissolves materials like vinyl, which you used in your loop. Always match coolants with materials.
@joebonsaipoland
@joebonsaipoland 9 жыл бұрын
Having run data centers, I have to just say, WTF were you thinking? Why did you not visit a data center and at least look at some current designs? I mean if you were in a very cold climate, this would be a decent room heating system, but it is NOT a cooling system - by DESIGN!!! Save it - in the winter, you can just open the window and use this 'cooling' system to both heat your room and cool it from the outside air. BONUS - excellent learning video. Points for trying. But I wish you would have consulted with a data center cooling or facilities person first.
@joebonsaipoland
@joebonsaipoland 9 жыл бұрын
***** or cold - all i am saying is, if the goal was to remove heat from the room, make the cooper runs as short as possible. Now, you could insulate the pipes with the cheap foam, form fitting, pipe covers. That would prevent some of the heat from being released into the room. One other question? What intensive 'graphics' are these guys actually doing? Have you seen their videos? A GT120 could do this and the heat problem goes away!!!
@NTDang
@NTDang 9 жыл бұрын
+joebonsaipoland i think it was more hey we can do it why not? more then actually going after the goal of cooling
@Spazik86
@Spazik86 8 жыл бұрын
+joebonsaipoland I do not understand those GPUs as well? Or is it possible to use GPU power for video editing tools?
@joebonsaipoland
@joebonsaipoland 8 жыл бұрын
Spazik86 depends on the software, some sw takes advantage of the GPU and the faster GPU = faster performance, but most does not and is processor dependant.
@joebonsaipoland
@joebonsaipoland 8 жыл бұрын
***** Where you at? What is the local climate? Do you have a cool basement? There are natural things you can do to use nature to help cool your equipment for 'free'. Or why not buy a bigger case to deal with the cooling properly?
@theprofessor3339
@theprofessor3339 8 жыл бұрын
This is what over thinking looks like
@Designandrew
@Designandrew 8 жыл бұрын
no, overthinking would have been realizing immediately that all of that copper pipes would dissipate the heat before it even gets to the heat exchanger.
@theprofessor3339
@theprofessor3339 8 жыл бұрын
I'm not talking about the build, I'm just saying he wants a cooler room so he does this instead of an air conditioner? What?
@peterfox6159
@peterfox6159 8 жыл бұрын
You are overlooking the difference between "comfort" and a "compromise" ... If you have such a system you can always ad an air conditioner later ... for a cooler breeze ;) Anyway, it is just a thought :)
@OMGKITTENMEWMEW1
@OMGKITTENMEWMEW1 8 жыл бұрын
Still generated a million views, seems to have achieved the desired result.
@BlahBlahUsername1
@BlahBlahUsername1 8 жыл бұрын
Adding an air conditioner changes the air inside the room, which is what you want. So your logic fails.
@travislee2471
@travislee2471 6 жыл бұрын
this was amazing, thanks dude
@victor2410
@victor2410 Жыл бұрын
This is my first time watching through this series in its entirety. What a blast, looking forward to what the chief vision officer can cook up when less distracted vs being ceo.
@no_alias_for_me
@no_alias_for_me 8 жыл бұрын
Why not cooling all the PCs with water seperately and then leading all the hot air out via tubes out of the room? Just like your concept but only with air which would be less complicated.
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 8 жыл бұрын
+Philip Danzinger Oh it'll cool great, but then you have a long column of air with a sound source at one end. You have probably created a sharp resonator with a propensity for standing waves. Would be curious to try, but to my understanding, it would be ROARING.
@no_alias_for_me
@no_alias_for_me 8 жыл бұрын
Siana Gearz True, good point. But what about an AC?
@losttownstreet3409
@losttownstreet3409 8 жыл бұрын
air flow management (cool air zone and hot air zone) is not as efficient as a water cooling system I once saw a smaller water cooled rig (from IBM running at 5Ghz; maybe a z196) and it make sense. More processing Power in smaller room, smaller rental fees. The hot water may be used for heating or in other ways. Full room water cooling is a professional cooling system with many difficulties; in professional environments they had a technician. They still use distilled water, but still have to deionize it regularly (they use heat exchangers too). It's not for home use. A 220MW radiator makes a cool winter day's to perfect place for outside party -- even if only 80MW was active ;)
@BluTrollPro
@BluTrollPro 9 жыл бұрын
Hey. If you happen to read this I have a suggestion on how to increase the efficiency of your system. The copper piping will still radiate some heat into the room, have you not considered adding some form of insulation to that piping so that it carries heat more effectively. My recommendation would be motorcycle exhaust tape as it is cheap and easy to apply.
@AGamingPand
@AGamingPand 9 жыл бұрын
CAElite I'm sure they have had that idea before, but since they're moving in a couple of weeks it would just be more wasted money.
@TheMrVengeance
@TheMrVengeance 9 жыл бұрын
CAElite He literally talks about this in the video, did you not watch it? He mentions how the copper tubing is aesthetically more pleasing, but is less efficient than insulated piping for the reasons you mention.
@Blueye555
@Blueye555 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you and your whole team for this video series. It was very interesting and entertaining for me! Keep going! =)
@geoffgrech6725
@geoffgrech6725 5 жыл бұрын
It made a cool video set and some thing most of us would not have thought of. thanks for all the effort and hard work. Just to see if it works Little Aussie follower
@DrdrGames
@DrdrGames 9 жыл бұрын
I really hoped this would defy all the odds and have crazy temperature drops all around :( Well, back to good old air conditioning then. Looks like the engineers that made AC knew what they were doing after all!
@islandboiitsi
@islandboiitsi 8 жыл бұрын
why not install an air-conditioner?
@thatch8537
@thatch8537 8 жыл бұрын
why not watch the whole video before making a dumbass coment?
@TheMaaksel
@TheMaaksel 8 жыл бұрын
My initial reaction was "why not install an AC..." Then come to find out, they wasted a ton of time, energy and resources to draw the same conclusion. There is a reason you don't see giant server farms water cooled.
@jasontti
@jasontti 8 жыл бұрын
Well google has one datacenter watercooled from seawater. It mainly is location and implementation specific if it is going to work.
@EileenTheCr0w
@EileenTheCr0w 8 жыл бұрын
+Mark Aksel I think that's just more for the hazard of frying the entire place due to a leak
@StephenDuMont100
@StephenDuMont100 8 жыл бұрын
water has a higher specific heat than air.
@motokoko8045
@motokoko8045 7 жыл бұрын
This is the reason i come back to this channel week after week. because of stuff like this
@kgunslinger
@kgunslinger 7 жыл бұрын
really cool I work in a factory were we use a lot of water cooling for molds and machines but it's definitely something more appropriate for much larger systems
@snowcoalRC
@snowcoalRC 6 жыл бұрын
so many things things that could have been done better: the inlet (cold) copper piping should start with a larger diameter and move to a smaller diameter so all the computers get equal amounts of water. the outlet (hot) piping should go in the opposite way. all the expensive pc radiators, pc fans, pc tubing, and pc cooling fittings that make up the radiator, could have been replaced with a cheap car radiator and large fan which would save tons of money and probably be much more efficient since car radiators are designed to handle heat loads like that and there are less electronics the copper piping should be insulated so it does not dissipate all the heat into the room, defeating the purpose of building the system in the first place an air conditioner and a curtain would have been way cheaper and would work perfectly fine
@plumbersgalacticforce4487
@plumbersgalacticforce4487 6 жыл бұрын
But that wouldn't have gotten him millions of views.
@TobiasLeininger
@TobiasLeininger 3 жыл бұрын
@@seynoonrae2474 a car cooling fan can do all that for a fraction of the cost ;)
@TobiasLeininger
@TobiasLeininger 3 жыл бұрын
@@seynoonrae2474 so you can't drive your car when it's raining? ;) Sure it is ...
@TobiasLeininger
@TobiasLeininger 3 жыл бұрын
@@seynoonrae2474 I don't need to ask anybody, I know what's in there. It's a brushless motor like those any PC fan and it runs fine in water. And no, the fan is not protected from water in most cars, but they get soaked when you drive in rain.
@TobiasLeininger
@TobiasLeininger 3 жыл бұрын
@@seynoonrae2474 I already did run all kinds of fans under water ;) Brushed ones wear out the brushes more quickly than outside and brushless ones don't care about water at all.
@aggressivli
@aggressivli 9 жыл бұрын
ok i am new to this channel why arent the copper pipes near the floor of the room? less material to use, less water, less pressure, less surface to radiate heat. and its kind of hidden, not this ugly ass construction
@RileyBuilding
@RileyBuilding 9 жыл бұрын
aggressivli If I recall, the intention was not only water cool their computers but, to cool the entire room as well. With the cool pipes, the heat would be sucked from the air(Or the cold would radiate through the room: which ever way to think about it.), More piping, more surface area, more area for the cold from the pipes to radiate so to say.
@JGrffn
@JGrffn 9 жыл бұрын
aggressivli I actually find the setup to look pretty badass, as it gives the room a sort of steam-punk-ish look.
@tabza
@tabza 9 жыл бұрын
aggressivli They coul d've also insulated the pipes with a foam to minimize the heat dissipation back inside the room.
@JGrffn
@JGrffn 9 жыл бұрын
Riley P this would be incorrect. If anything, the copper pipes are dumping all the heat they're pulling from the computers into the room. Since the computers are what heat up the room, the pipes ideally should've been insulated while within the room in order to successfully carry all the heat outside and, thus, lower the room's temperature as well.
@bassl0va
@bassl0va 9 жыл бұрын
Joseph Griffin Exactly, Linus also says this in the video
@Sparks95
@Sparks95 7 жыл бұрын
funniest linus video ever! this is like a comedy/documentary.
@timgrocutt
@timgrocutt 5 жыл бұрын
A+ for just making it work without going mad. A very commendable triumph over adversity.
@xmax800
@xmax800 7 жыл бұрын
7:40 measuring wall temp
@kalebbruwer
@kalebbruwer 7 жыл бұрын
Linus seems like the guy that will take his car when he visits his neighbour and probably has a 1500W PSU.
@Lordblanca
@Lordblanca 6 жыл бұрын
Love it. Linus you rock. Great concept.
@rogerdixon5736
@rogerdixon5736 7 жыл бұрын
this looks freaking amazing!
@smilesaredaggers3088
@smilesaredaggers3088 7 жыл бұрын
the Bad ideas everywhere had me laughing so much
@DasVERMiT
@DasVERMiT 8 жыл бұрын
Silly idea and pretty bad execution, but it was fun to watch! :D
@esbenrasmussen4289
@esbenrasmussen4289 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for doing this, this cemented your authority in the YT PC community for me, this was epic
@jfmezei
@jfmezei 4 жыл бұрын
Back in the early 1990s, I worked at a bank. They had just installed a new IBM mainframe in the computer room. It was extremely quiet, and when they opened a cabinet, all I saw was a huge pump and large water pipes :-) The mainframe was was cooled, and the water was directly connected to the Liebert unit. So the machine got cold water in, and put out hot water (not just 1° tempoerature difference). If you have a room full of editors whose workstations each put out 1000watts of heat, it can make sense to take that head directly out of the machines instead of dumping it into the room and requiring more air conditioning power. (and in winter, you get free cooling if your water loop has radiator outside).
@kristianbrasel
@kristianbrasel 9 жыл бұрын
what a fun disaster.
@heyBurmecia
@heyBurmecia 8 жыл бұрын
So you thought of a tandem whole room water cooling system, before you thought of a curtain...a curtain.
@doug6394
@doug6394 8 жыл бұрын
said what I was thinking.
@ironbellystudios
@ironbellystudios 8 жыл бұрын
Plus $100 in Gila UV film on the windows, problem solved.
@Stubbari
@Stubbari 8 жыл бұрын
A curtain doesn't do shit though.
@Stubbari
@Stubbari 8 жыл бұрын
Seth Johnson Yeah you need to put that outside the window or in between the glasses. Curtain inside will just block the sun and heat up and work as a radiator.
@JohnIsUber247
@JohnIsUber247 8 жыл бұрын
No you don't. Just buy thermal curtains. They're thick enough that they end up trapping the hot air against the window, which will just be conducted out when it cools down. They also work both ways, keeping the room warm in the winter and cold in the summer. What little heat they radiate from the sun shining on them is a lot less than the sun shining into and all over the room.
@TheSprinkle27
@TheSprinkle27 4 жыл бұрын
After watching all the watercooled room videos I wouldnt say it was a fail or not worth it or whatever. Your not giving ur self enough credit man, so what if it didnt come out the way you wanted. You had an idea and a neat idea and made it come true. That's huge and that's a VICTORY. You and ur team did A LOT of work to make it so and yall did it. Yall didnt give up and that what counts my friend. Yall should definitely celebrate as a team after that one. Good work and good job, God Bless.
@normantan4654
@normantan4654 4 жыл бұрын
Entertaining and fun... I wouldnt do that. it's always nice to see someone tried it.
@RaySchrantz
@RaySchrantz 9 жыл бұрын
Isn't that going to bring the value of the house down?
@BizzMRK
@BizzMRK 9 жыл бұрын
RaySchrantz Ever heard of disassembly? If i buy an shelf and mount it to the wall i take it with me if i move.
@GingerNut_
@GingerNut_ 9 жыл бұрын
They're going to take this set up to the new office
@BizzMRK
@BizzMRK 9 жыл бұрын
HazzaRamma123 no, they are going with air conditioning in the new office. Linus already said that.
@danxepha4535
@danxepha4535 9 жыл бұрын
RaySchrantz No.
@L3uX
@L3uX 9 жыл бұрын
I do property management (commercial) and no, all that stuff can easily be removed. When you look at a house to move into, there are always going to be lots of marks, holes in wall, etc etc. but you can easily patch it up to a decent/acceptable state. If you are renting however, landlord would probably deduct a tiny amount for excessive holes in wall (screws, large nails, mounts).
@danielhesse8600
@danielhesse8600 7 жыл бұрын
Why not insulate the outlet with foam?
@Thaclaww
@Thaclaww 7 жыл бұрын
its funny you have the guy from h3h3 vids and at 3:26 he is watching h3h3
@MrAwsomeshot
@MrAwsomeshot 7 жыл бұрын
and shortening up the runs. the 5-6 foot inlet/outlet pipes from the ceiling down just adds so much extra surface area. not to mention running it completely around the room.
@yourface3154
@yourface3154 6 жыл бұрын
You mean the inlet? Why would you insulate whats already warm and headed out to the radiators?
@MrRahre
@MrRahre 6 жыл бұрын
So that the warm outlet pipes don't heat the room up. The goal is to dump the heat outside.
@yourface3154
@yourface3154 6 жыл бұрын
MrRahre Those pipes aren't big enough to heat the room up, wasted effort.
@haroldreid2349
@haroldreid2349 4 жыл бұрын
love it great video. so many things to make it better if you ever revisit whole room water cooling think swagelok and SS tubing and maybe a chiller
@antiHUMANDesigns
@antiHUMANDesigns 6 жыл бұрын
This was a really entertaining and inspiring series of videos. I'm considering running water cooling out my window next to my computer....
@TheSquidPro
@TheSquidPro 9 жыл бұрын
You should probably insulate the pipes, have a de-pressurization point at the highest bit, use Unipipe instead of copper because much like the iron reservoir fresh welded pipes aren't cleaned beforehand. Your dad needs to learn how to use a bending iron because holy shit that's a lot of 90 degree bits. I actually wonder if you can feed the hot water from the PC's into a boiler that will heat cold tap water for your house, and thus saving on gas.
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