Whose Land Episode 2 - Ottoman Turkish rule over Palestine

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4 жыл бұрын

Whose Land is a documentary, produced and directed by Hugh Kitson and narrated by Colonel Richard Kemp, which examines the claims to the Land of Israel, through the eyes of historians and international lawyers.
Chapter 2 explores the Ottoman Turkish rule over Palestine.

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@888dreamersbag
@888dreamersbag 9 ай бұрын
That’s not true Ottoman Empire has treated everyone equally but Palestinians weren’t able to sell their lands to non ottoman citizens mostly Jews who offers triple of its worth. So they fought to ottomans with British people and stabbed them in the back. Today they are paying its price.
@danieljakes5949
@danieljakes5949 7 ай бұрын
Wrong. They didn't treated people equally, more so Christians and Jews. How short of a memory could you possibly have when the ottoman Turks lead to what was the greatest genocide of Christians under it's rule . The 30 year genocide and the genocide of Armenian Christians. So bad was it that 2 million Christians died. The Jews deserve a homeland away from islamic rule and so do Christians, we're not your Dhimmis
@tugbaozkan7803
@tugbaozkan7803 4 ай бұрын
Prophet (pbuh) warned Arabs not to fight against Turks. But they did and trusted Brits. Every major conflict this century was created by British. Sad to see Palestinians suffer
@evamurray2564
@evamurray2564 4 ай бұрын
​@tugbaozkan7803 what are you talking about? Name one conflict started by Britain in this century.
@NYmomAdrienne3915
@NYmomAdrienne3915 2 ай бұрын
Ottomans for equality 😂😂😂 Armenians and Assyrians are in awe at your ignorance
@TheHakanBrgl
@TheHakanBrgl Ай бұрын
@@danieljakes5949 Sorry but u are wrong one here, If you do research, you can find evidence with historical photographs that Armenians teamed up with the Russians and massacred Turks and Muslims in the east of the Ottoman Empire starting from the Balkan Wars. What you wrote is nothing but exaggerated lies of the Russians and Europeans who won the war to make the Turks look bad and to get rid of their own crimes against humanity. Can you explain why France does what it does in Africa and why it has lands that do not have its own borders (where black people live overseas France lands?) Why do they not show you the massacres committed by the Russians against the Turks in history lessons Currently, the official languages ​​of all Turkish states except Turkey are Russian, Why did the British colonials always have a problems except 1-2 places? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circassian_genocide (An example of the Russians' genocide) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Massacres_committed_by_the_United_Kingdom (The list of Great Britain is long) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France_and_the_Rwandan_genocide (An example from the French: French genocide is all over Africa.) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herero_and_Nama_genocide (Germany's example in Africa, everyone knows Germany only for the Holocaust, but they love to ignore what it did in Africa because each of them is the same.) I'm sorry, but my past is not full of massacres because there was no concept of Nation in the Ottoman Empire. In particular, even though the religion of the empire was Islam, Muslims were not seen as a superior race because even if a person is not a Muslim today, he may be tomorrow, so the evil you do to that person now may affect you tomorrow. There was no prevailing view that would see people as second class. In fact, if you look at the simplest example, the Arabs under the Ottoman Empire, they say that the Ottomans do not value Muslims and claim that they rebelled, the Greeks and Armenians say the same, and the funniest part is that we, as the Turks who pay the most taxes, say the same thing, but the others are good and we are the bad ones. I am aware that it has been a long article, I hope you will re-evaluate your knowledge and research history impartially, because the most popular history in our world is a history written by those who won the wars, where the strong are always the best and the losers are the worst.
@barsbolukbasi7857
@barsbolukbasi7857 3 жыл бұрын
there is no palestine in history so those lands belong to jewish. really ??? is there any America in history. then Americans must give the lands to native americans. you are just hypocrite.
@suhayb6423
@suhayb6423 3 жыл бұрын
exactly. since when did israel exist in history? historically, israel never existed. they made it up.
@daniellimo4087
@daniellimo4087 3 жыл бұрын
That's the point. Jusas native Americans have a right to the reservation so do the Jews have a right to Judea
@daniellimo4087
@daniellimo4087 3 жыл бұрын
@@suhayb6423 it was called Judea from the word Judah. The last time I checked, that was not an Arab name
@bidenhasdementia6804
@bidenhasdementia6804 3 жыл бұрын
White people didn’t have a continuous presence, connection, or claim to the land. Your comparison is capricious and arbitrary
@emir6691
@emir6691 3 жыл бұрын
@@daniellimo4087 you understand how dangerous things would be if historical claims reemerged for everyone right? and if everyone started to achieve their goals by force?
@inagordan4589
@inagordan4589 8 ай бұрын
later in 19 century Karen Kaemet purchased a lot of land and payed high prices. All records you can find in Italuan Archives even today.
@AE-cu6xj
@AE-cu6xj 19 күн бұрын
Keren Kayemet Le' Israel
@lookatmeimaflyingpig
@lookatmeimaflyingpig 8 ай бұрын
Did anyone manage to find the 1863 census referred to in the video? I'm struggling to find it anywhere
@commentsedited
@commentsedited 8 ай бұрын
Mark twain ( Samuel Clemens) and a few other notable people write about their visit to the area. They describe the area as a desert void of inhabitants
@commentsedited
@commentsedited 8 ай бұрын
Yes sir I did. And how you didn't is beyond belief, and my only conclusion is that you are trying to sow decent among comments about the rights of jews to be in their own land
@lookatmeimaflyingpig
@lookatmeimaflyingpig 8 ай бұрын
@@commentsedited that wasn't my intention, I am interested in this and want to read about it. Could you send me the link to what you found please?
@declanga1020
@declanga1020 8 ай бұрын
you should try and not be so sensitive and jump to such unfounded, childish conclusions. @@commentsedited
@dchild
@dchild 3 ай бұрын
@@lookatmeimaflyingpighe didn’t send the link did he? It’s kinda weird how Jerusalem was left untouched until the British got a hold of it which increased population of both religious sects and because of money and influence in war and blood becomes a Jewish state instead of the 12 tribes reunification.
@simonline1194
@simonline1194 2 жыл бұрын
When are we going to get volume 2?!
@orderofcaliphate7909
@orderofcaliphate7909 Жыл бұрын
SORRY THEY ARE BUSY IN ILLEGAL OCCUPATION .
@mrjimmbo
@mrjimmbo 9 ай бұрын
Wait till you find out this was volume 2
@clivewinbow2150
@clivewinbow2150 8 ай бұрын
The question of land ownership and population in the period around and before 1900 needs more well-sourced information.
@Soesii
@Soesii 7 ай бұрын
Fr. It needs to be mentioned more as well
@1czechit1
@1czechit1 Ай бұрын
but the issue is sovereignty, not private property. But in 1858 the private property was changed with a new law.
@Closminding
@Closminding 8 ай бұрын
Good account. Funny how people here cant bear to face the truth. 😢🎉🤦‍♂️
@arlenegojocco3665
@arlenegojocco3665 3 ай бұрын
Truth hurts! 😊
@daniellimo4087
@daniellimo4087 3 жыл бұрын
I see complaints that don't make sense when facts are given
@nurieln
@nurieln 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel Limo You too would complain loudly if all you have grown on were lies
@gabrielalexanderkhoury73
@gabrielalexanderkhoury73 Жыл бұрын
British Palestine sensus of 1922 divided by religious groups was 590,890 Muslims, 83,794 Jews and 73,024 Christians. My family belong to the Christian community - the oldest in the world.
@shainazion4073
@shainazion4073 9 ай бұрын
The British Land Survey of 1945 showed that the Palestinian farmers owned only 3.3% of the land. The absentee wealthy Arab land holders owned 16.5% of the land. The Jews owned 8.6% of the land. And 70% of the land was State Land, transferred from the Ottomans, to the British, and then to Israel. Israel was created by almost 80% of non-Arab owned lands.
@ghostaccount9865
@ghostaccount9865 7 ай бұрын
@@shainazion4073 This survey cannot be validated as it was part of the Zionist project. So people are number to refer to them this way. Unearth the truth show the mass graves under the Israel settlement of Palestine who were living there and got killed by the Zionists.
@ghostaccount9865
@ghostaccount9865 7 ай бұрын
This after the Britch allowed Jews to migrates in folds to Palestine. Those numbers include illegal immigrants jews to Palestine.
@sureyyaekinci4630
@sureyyaekinci4630 6 ай бұрын
@@shainazion4073didn’t some Jews buy land from the Palestinians also ? They offered the arabs triple the amount the land was worth
@shainazion4073
@shainazion4073 6 ай бұрын
@@sureyyaekinci4630 There were no Palestinians until they were invented by the KGB and PLO in 1964. The League of Nations, the United Nations, the Paris Peace Conference, the Bible, the Torah, and the Quran never heard of Palestinians.
@okunlolaseun4148
@okunlolaseun4148 8 ай бұрын
Lots of Arabs won't like this
@Closminding
@Closminding 8 ай бұрын
You mean 'Palestinians'? 😉
@robyhempel3928
@robyhempel3928 5 ай бұрын
So? Their issue. They will have to reconcile facts and the fiction they were sold in the last 100 years. JUDEA SAMARIA was always jew. The Torah and the Christian Bible and the Roman and Greek historians wrote that clearly. And lots of others. Am Israel Chai
@valerieprice-wn9qb
@valerieprice-wn9qb 3 ай бұрын
God bless Judea and Samaria long live the land of the Jewish people the very heartbeat of the Nation of Israel !
@markr.katzman3743
@markr.katzman3743 3 жыл бұрын
Great video...it brings up many historical facts that the world today chooses to ignore. If one goes to Jerusalem today you'd have no idea what Col. Kemp is referring to as it's all built up around the Old City. But if you read Mark Twain's account of his trip to Palestine then it was only desolation and disappointing. Even the account of Capt. Chas. Warren suggests that the land was barren. Contrast that with the Torah and accounts of Judea before and during the Roman occupation which suggest that it was indeed a land rich and flowing with milk and honey. The problem is that the world today does not care about history. We see in America that it's nothing to lie and rewrite history, tearing down monuments erected to remember and sometimes to celebrate history. So great as this video is, not the UN, nor a sizable portion of the world cares a fig about what really existed in the "Holy Land"...they only care about what fits their ignorant agenda. Their behavior and attitudes are more akin to the Grand Inquisition than the 20th or 21st centuries. Col. Kemp is quite a leader and very courageous to stand on the side of truth and historical fact when many like him choose not to.
@antoniovasquez9946
@antoniovasquez9946 7 ай бұрын
🇵🇸✊🏾
@benb6527
@benb6527 5 ай бұрын
@@antoniovasquez9946No Palestine. Not now, not ever. 👎🏻
@rickgora2952
@rickgora2952 8 ай бұрын
Great ending and spot on FACTS!
@GeoffSh4rt
@GeoffSh4rt 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting, informative and well put together. I look forward to the sequel.
@lordvonmanor6915
@lordvonmanor6915 Жыл бұрын
Why speak of these religions as thou they are Ethnic Groups?
@shainazion4073
@shainazion4073 9 ай бұрын
A Jew is a member of an ancient nation of people, not a religion. The diaspora Jews are all related by DNA. The Jews are not a religion, they are the people descending from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
@patilbalian938
@patilbalian938 3 жыл бұрын
In the 19th century the Ottomans were very good with the jewish people. Most of the Palestinian lands were sold to the Jews during the Ottoman period. A research into the Camondo family will show the major influence they had on Ottoman politics.
@patilbalian938
@patilbalian938 3 жыл бұрын
@@kursat7977 In 1855, Moses Montefiore aquired land around Jaffa, in 1860 he buyed land from the governor of Jerusalem. In 1870 Charles Netter from the alliance israelite universelle, received land from the ottoman empire as a gift. In 1904-1905 the jewish national fund purchased land near the sea of galile In 1908 Isaac leib Goldberg purchased land on mount Scopus, Jerusalem. In 1906 land was sold to baron Edmond de Rotschild in Jezreel valley.
@patilbalian938
@patilbalian938 3 жыл бұрын
@@kursat7977 Zionism as a political movement and organisation was created in 1896 but the idea of establishing a Jewish homeland in Palestine predates Herzl's political movement (see proto-zionism) the first migration (aliyah) into Palestine occurred between 1881 and 1903 and the aim of this Aliyah was to prepare an agricultural workforce. the lands bought prior to the Aliyah were not random. the foundation of agricultural schools and neighborhoods were part of an economic development plan made explicit in the Basel agreement of the first zionist congress. Abdulhamit was aware of the plan and the desire to establish a jewish homeland in Palestine, as you said through Herzl and also through the young turks. He did refuse the idea but there was not much he could do about it as he was under a lot of debt and was eventually overthrown by the committee of union and progress (associated with the young turks). Camondo the banker of Abdulhamit supported the CUP. For me the lack of transparency and the under the table land dealings are perhaps what caused the Palestinains to adopt a hostile stance against the Jewish settlers. no proper dialogue ever took place
@patilbalian938
@patilbalian938 3 жыл бұрын
@@kursat7977 there is also the Ottoman land code of 1858 that is a bit questionable in regards to timing and how it kind of nullified communal land ownership by local inhabitants.
@joybiswas3506
@joybiswas3506 3 жыл бұрын
@@kursat7977 It's british who named it Palestine , during ottoman it wasn't called Palestine
@sainozachariah5463
@sainozachariah5463 3 жыл бұрын
@@joybiswas3506 That's incorrect. Like @OCar mentioned,it was the Romans centuries ag who named it Palestine and not the British in 1900s
@tropics8407
@tropics8407 6 ай бұрын
1871 - 1878 map, survey, uses of land and demographics of Palestine ? A British exercise in ottoman land ? Where can you his information be examined ?
@hyperxplays
@hyperxplays 19 күн бұрын
How can yours be as well?
@__Andrew_
@__Andrew_ 3 жыл бұрын
Production note... Such a shame some idiot thought this needed incessant music Alnost continuously distracting from the narration.
@malcolmsherwood19
@malcolmsherwood19 3 жыл бұрын
This briefly mentions a very important fact why Jews came to Palestine in the late 1800s. Through the 19th century Russia threatened to retake Constantinople for Christians. Britain and France allied with the Ottomans, afraid that Russia would gain a port in the Mediterranean. One cost of this aid was the Turks had to agree to give Christians and Jews equal rights with Muslims. For Jews suffering pogroms in Europe, the idea of living in Palestine was inviting. The local Arabs were horrified of the idea that Jews might gain a majority and have a say in governing their own towns. It was Muslim hostility to treating other religions equally that led the Jews to realize they needed their own nation to ever be free.
@Germanpush
@Germanpush 3 жыл бұрын
Liiiieess!
@samwise4589
@samwise4589 3 жыл бұрын
Ya that’s not true. And I can prove by pointing you to the writings of Zionists leaders in their diaries. Calls for a state was well before Russian programs.
@Germanpush
@Germanpush 3 жыл бұрын
@vv bbibbi liiiieeeeeee
@Germanpush
@Germanpush 3 жыл бұрын
@vv bbibbi liiiiees omg
@malcolmsherwood19
@malcolmsherwood19 3 жыл бұрын
@@samwise4589 Your comment is superfluous. The idea of a Jewish state began in prehistory. My point is the change in Ottoman law was inviting to Jews living in Russia (and elsewhere).
@excelsior31107
@excelsior31107 3 жыл бұрын
Despite efforts to improve education in the 1800s, the Ottoman Empire lagged far behind its European competitors in literacy, so by 1914, it’s estimated that only between 5 and 10 percent of its inhabitants could read. It may not be neccessary for me to describe the actual activities of the Ottomans have been carried out for almost 700 years.
@aasimkarbhari7470
@aasimkarbhari7470 11 ай бұрын
Lol you forget how much backwards Europe learned from Al Andalus, during the golden age of Islam
@excelsior31107
@excelsior31107 11 ай бұрын
@@aasimkarbhari7470 If what you are saying is about the Islamic world, which is believed to be more advanced during their golden age than people in Europe, the reasons have absolutely nothing to do with Islamic religion, apart from their mandate to develop military expansion and strength. Many do not know that the scientific advances credited to Islam at the time were actually borrowed from other cultures conquered by Muslims. Perhaps you have also never been told that almost all the scientists and cultural icons who were said to be Muslims in the golden age period were often considered heretics. For example, one of the greatest achievements believed to come out of the Islamic world was the Persian scientist and philosopher, al-Razi. Many Muslims are proud of his works and are often used as 'proof' of Islamic progress. But what is often left out is that not only al-Razi is criticized but many of them such as Ibn Sina, Ibn Rushd, Al-Bairuni, Al-Khawarazmi, Omar Khayyam and many others are accused of apostasy because they follow their own beliefs which are very contrary to traditional Islam. Even so, we can all take the words of Al-Razi for the good of fellow human beings who once wrote in his book that humans are better off without religion. Today, the record of Islamic science and technology achievements are only best known for turning Western technology, such as cell phones and airplanes, into instruments of genocide in the name of “الله”
@svart7716
@svart7716 9 ай бұрын
What is your point? What has ottoman literacy got to do with the subject? Ottomans have ruled the whole Arabian peninsula for 700 years and treated jews very nicely with or without high literacy. İn fact they ruled 18 million square km of land in 3 continents with so “low” literacy..It is great feat with so 5%literacy..
@excelsior31107
@excelsior31107 9 ай бұрын
@@svart7716 Are you sure the Ottomans treated the Jews nicely? As far as I'm concerned, many of their non-Muslim daughters were kidnapped and made into sex slaves and kept in the Sultan's palace. Of course the Sultan treated them nicely because he can have all the sex. My point is that the religion of Islam is not a good teaching. During the 700 years of rule what have they done besides fighting? Nothing. One of the great ironies of Islam is that non-Muslims are to be treated according to the very standards by which Muslims themselves would claim the right to violent self-defense if the the shoe were on the other foot. Islam is its own justification. Most Muslims therefore feel no shame about the ingrained arrogance and double standard.
@fanthony
@fanthony 9 ай бұрын
@@aasimkarbhari7470now that Islamic cultures have been on the back foot for the last few centuries, would you also like to talk about how Muslim societies have benefitted and learned from the groundbreaking scientific advancements of western civilization over the last 400 years?
@svart7716
@svart7716 9 ай бұрын
It is unfair to say Turks didn’t treat Jews well..Ottoman Turks have treated its Jewish minority very well. Because they didn’t riot. Jews of Istanbul, Izmir and Thessaloniki lived very happily during ottoman period. In fact Thessaloniki was the center of Jewish intellectuals.. it is the Europeans who have treated Jews terribly. Almost all European countries treated Jews as second class citizens except ottomans.
@andrewtrip8617
@andrewtrip8617 7 ай бұрын
Shame they couldn't extend their care to the Armenians and asyrians Who they slaughtered.
@svart7716
@svart7716 7 ай бұрын
@@andrewtrip8617 you don’t have any knowledge of what had actually happened there. You wouldn’t even show the map of those countries on the map..
@andrewtrip8617
@andrewtrip8617 6 ай бұрын
@@svart7716 unfortunately for the ottoman Turks enough survived to tell of the genocide ,but you can keep denying it if you feel more comfortable that way .
@svart7716
@svart7716 6 ай бұрын
@@andrewtrip8617 which genocide? Denying what?
@isramiraj
@isramiraj 6 ай бұрын
Read another side of the story, many people died of Spanish Flu, migration, etc and among Jews and Muslims in Ottoman Turkey. In the Paris Peaxe conference in 1919, President Wilson noted the atrocities of Russia in Eastern Turkey and Armenian nationalists sided with Russia, not am saying nationalists not Armenian people.
@1czechit1
@1czechit1 Ай бұрын
Arab chant in 1919... "From Turkey to Gaza Palestine does not exist."
@1czechit1
@1czechit1 Ай бұрын
the 7th century Arab Muslim invasion did not settle the land. And it did deplete the population from 3M to 500K. It was in the Mamluk period when the population dropped from the 500K to 123K as recorded by the Ottomans in 1525. Again Arabs only immigrated in 1904 to 1947. 250K between 1904 and 1914 and 700K between 1918 and 1947.
@richardsimms251
@richardsimms251 9 ай бұрын
Excellent
@heeniskipwith
@heeniskipwith 3 жыл бұрын
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@fidausdaus5080
@fidausdaus5080 2 жыл бұрын
At least they have a 👑 king(sultan) ....they were supposed to help Muslim in nusantara archeology....we are Muslim also.
@1czechit1
@1czechit1 Ай бұрын
BTW, Arabs did not immigrate to the land of Israel until 1904. The "Arabs" were Samaritans, Jews, Bosniaks, Afghanis, Circassians Algerians and Egyptians.
@Romanov117
@Romanov117 9 ай бұрын
Those who never learn history are doomed to repeat it. I’d say this, there is *no independent Palestine.*
@inagordan4589
@inagordan4589 8 ай бұрын
and never was. All Palestinians are " INVENED " people by Arafat in 1964. before 1964 noone heard about Palestinians. Arafat together with evil Russia git idea to call themselves Palestinians so it will be constant struggle and duress for Israel in many years to come. Today Russia continues to use to manipulate Arabs against Israel.
@AE-cu6xj
@AE-cu6xj 19 күн бұрын
There was never an Arab or Muslim entity called Palestine & the name Palestine never appeared in Quran nor Jerusalem was never a capital of any Muslim entity.
@mongolianfishingvillages1371
@mongolianfishingvillages1371 3 жыл бұрын
The most peaceful land under the ottomans
@johnlee5423
@johnlee5423 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@shaq6976
@shaq6976 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnlee5423 well in comparison its true
@randolphmcarthur6043
@randolphmcarthur6043 3 жыл бұрын
The Ottomans were certainly more tolerant then the Christians of the era.
@daniellimo4087
@daniellimo4087 3 жыл бұрын
Yes because the only time Muslims are fine is when they are ruling
@shaq6976
@shaq6976 3 жыл бұрын
@@daniellimo4087 well that’s certain Bs on your behalf, Inform yourself lmao
@ebcsecurity9490
@ebcsecurity9490 3 жыл бұрын
Big mistake letting them in Jerusalem
@AnthonyEllis_Au
@AnthonyEllis_Au 3 жыл бұрын
Oh goodness, what in the world am I watching? 9:09
@nurieln
@nurieln 3 жыл бұрын
Anthony Ellis You are watching truth unfolding.... a very scarce commodity in our days
@AnthonyEllis_Au
@AnthonyEllis_Au 3 жыл бұрын
@@nurieln - Naw, this is some crazy cult stuff. Not messing with this.
@samwise4589
@samwise4589 3 жыл бұрын
This is a biased misinformation.
@danortiz
@danortiz 3 жыл бұрын
as any other. But Yeah, Palestine was Turkish for centuries.
@johnnyboy1586
@johnnyboy1586 3 жыл бұрын
@@danortiz wasn't it the Romans who named the area Palestine?
@danortiz
@danortiz 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyboy1586 not sure, could be
@danortiz
@danortiz 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyboy1586 surely doesn't sound like a Arabic or Jew Word.
@johnnyboy1586
@johnnyboy1586 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure it was a roman emperor that named the area palestina,or something like that,later to be cauld palestine
@KingOSO-wv7uc
@KingOSO-wv7uc 3 жыл бұрын
Because then we were called the Phoenicians
@MrSteventodd
@MrSteventodd Жыл бұрын
Yikes. The logic here is that no Arab Palestinian state ever existed and so one never should.
@lorettarajkumar3656
@lorettarajkumar3656 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely correct.. . Then Britain n UN knows it .. but now UN is corrupted with mostly muslims governed . They will lie n fight that's Palestinians land when most of the time only invaders were fighting to capture isreal as know facts isreal was besieged 23 times attacked 52 times n captured n recaptured 44 times . Which country in tte world holds that kind of record??
@cooking4ucooking4u86
@cooking4ucooking4u86 3 жыл бұрын
Ottomans 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷
@ebcsecurity9490
@ebcsecurity9490 3 жыл бұрын
When has Jerusalem been a European nation?
@christdiedforoursins8985
@christdiedforoursins8985 3 жыл бұрын
The Prussia tutonic knights and crusaders is probably as close to European this they set up hospital and defended Christian pilgrims and fought Muslims ,in think it was under the holy Roman empire.
@ebcsecurity9490
@ebcsecurity9490 3 жыл бұрын
@@christdiedforoursins8985 so the answer is never.
@christdiedforoursins8985
@christdiedforoursins8985 3 жыл бұрын
@@ebcsecurity9490 well, as I was thinking about it, the Romans had Palestine in Jesus' time ,to my knowledge it has been conquered many times ,tribes and peoples have come and gone through out history,alot if what the crusaders built is still there today .am not sure about Alexander the Great also ,I think yes ,you got me interested ,but I'll have to read about it the Jews were Helenised so I would think the Greeks also but I must see a map to be certain in my mind's eye I think the Greeks also ,sorry for being so limited in my knowledge.
@christdiedforoursins8985
@christdiedforoursins8985 3 жыл бұрын
@@ebcsecurity9490 In the late 330s BCE, Alexander the Great invaded the Middle East (including the area which is now Israel and Palestine), during his campaigns against the Achaemenid Empire.
@christdiedforoursins8985
@christdiedforoursins8985 3 жыл бұрын
@@ebcsecurity9490 The history of Palestine is the study of the past in the region of Palestine, defined as the territory between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River (where Israel and Palestine are today). Strategically situated between three continents, Palestine has a tumultuous history as a crossroads for religion, culture, commerce, and politics. Palestine is the birthplace of Judaism and Christianity[1] and has been controlled by many kingdoms and powers, including Ancient Egypt, Persia, Alexander the Great and his successors, the Roman Empire, several Muslim dynasties, and the Crusaders. In modern times, the area was ruled by the Ottoman Empire, then the United Kingdom and since 1948 it has been divided into Israel, the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. Maps of Ottoman Palestine showing the Kaza subdivisions. The region was among the earliest in the world to see human habitation, agricultural communities and civilization. The Canaanites established independent city-states that were influenced by the surrounding civilizations, among them Egypt, which ruled the area in the Late Bronze Age. The Assyrians conquered Palestine in the 8th century BCE, then the Babylonians in c. 601 BCE, followed by the Persians who conquered the Babylonian Empire in 539 BCE. Alexander the Great conquered Palestine in the late 330s BCE, beginning a long period of Hellenization. In the late 2nd century BCE, the semi-independent Hasmonean kingdom conquered most of Palestine but the kingdom gradually became a vassal of Rome, which annexed Palestine in 6 BCE. Roman rule was troubled by Jewish rebellions, which Rome answered with by destroying the Jews' temple. In the 4th century, as the Roman Empire Christened, Palestine became a center of Christianity, attracting pilgrims, monks and scholars.
@ebcsecurity9490
@ebcsecurity9490 3 жыл бұрын
When have Europeans become spokespeople for Jews?
@nurieln
@nurieln 3 жыл бұрын
EBC SECURITY While you were sleeping.... it happened
@user-qh4ff3jc2w
@user-qh4ff3jc2w 9 ай бұрын
the land was so desolate and sparsely populated but the British couldn't wait to run to that area. And also they couldn't wait to set up a Jewish state.
@FrostRare
@FrostRare 4 ай бұрын
I like this narrator. He’s got a sturdy, authoritative physicality. I trust him.
@ashoakwillow
@ashoakwillow 2 жыл бұрын
This is getting to the heart of the threat to indigenous people all over the world, whether north American Indians, aboriginal Australians or those we now call Palestinians. They very often led pastoral, nomadic lives, often herding and grazing, and very much attuned to what nature could provide sustainably. Indeed, this was the reality of human existence until about 12,000 years ago when farming facilitated permanent settlements. It seems fair and just that ancestral rights are recognised in international law.
@ChannelMath
@ChannelMath Жыл бұрын
I agree, although your comment borders on condescendingly nature-izing those "indigenous" peoples. They also came and settled, and they often did not live sustainably "attuned" with nature. They are humans like any other. The have the rights only because they were there first, that's all
@ashoakwillow
@ashoakwillow Жыл бұрын
@@ChannelMath You are right; its more accurate to say the population was so much less thousands of years ago, so their way of living was in balance with their ecosystem j
@Paradisusinfernalis6815
@Paradisusinfernalis6815 3 ай бұрын
Oh if you want to pull the indigenous people card - please eat your hat cause in this land they are the Jews - descendants of peril called ancient Israelites and Canaanite from 3000-4000 thousand years ago . Apropos nomadism - population of this land led sedentary was of life for thousands of years before 1800-s , most lived in small townships and villages and engaged in agriculture; nothing like aboriginal people of Australia who had not known agriculture or native Americans for whom corn was available, but they still mostly relied on hunting for their subsistence/ Stop pretending that you know something and better read than comment and embarrass yourself
@tarana9329
@tarana9329 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing the extent to which you people will go to justify chucking people out of their houses and land and establishing an apartheid system. How were the Jews being treated in the Ottoman empire compared to Europe at the time? Dhimmi status means they and their religious practices were protected by the state, along with Christians, due to being 'people of the book', without having to serve in the military. What was Jew and non-European Christians' status under the crusaders or the Romans? Please read The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by Ilan Pappe, an Israeli academic, to see through this misleading propaganda. There is no justification for apartheid and ethnic cleansing, no matter who perpetrates it or their religion.
@davidjukebox
@davidjukebox Жыл бұрын
So what? It makes no difference about Dhimmi status. It's not relevant to sovereignty of land. The only relevance is land rights and now the western concept of self-determination (which is not a human right, just a desire). I agree with you in regards to land property rights - personally, I think this has to be part of repatriation of ingenious people, so-called Palestinians, who would in fact become Israelis. And too Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza. But this would require an acceptance of Israeli sovereignty, as under the British or The Ottoman's as no-property rights can be respected and followed if there is no one who can govern it. And as Israel is sovereign, Palestinian insistence of undoing this is flagrant disregard for the concept of law. I have huge sympathy for those who lost their land (and should also say about living conditions of Palestinians), but practically speaking... how can someone prove a historic (yet still applicable) claim of land? Frankly, this is a huge problem. My land? Was it? What is your claim to it? Frankly, we have gone based that - unless there are clear and obvious cases and people can prove their claims (which should definitely be respected) even in regards to the State of Israel as a whole. Palestinians have no legitimate claim to Israel but insist on it. All of it. Even though this is only really Western Palestine. So no wonder why these claims cannot be verified or supported because there are no grounds for them. But Palestinians do have legitimate claims to land on Israeli soil and also likely a claim to Israeli nationality and rights. The situation is not negotiable unless it becomes negotiable. Beyond personal claims of land, there is no basis for Palestine beyond as a state unless the people accept what was gifted to them (really! a gift) or negotiate different solution with Israel (and perhaps Jordan and Syria, should they care for these so called Palestinian lands).
@ZhuoAo
@ZhuoAo Жыл бұрын
Being someone who watches so many events of this nature unfolds across the globe from afar, I can't help wondering why everything western leaders and aristocrats touch turns into shit.
@PaulanthonyBridge-kt4eg
@PaulanthonyBridge-kt4eg 8 ай бұрын
Idiot @!!!!!!!!!!!!
@andrewtrip8617
@andrewtrip8617 7 ай бұрын
​@@ZhuoAoit's not like it wasn't shit before .
@annelizebatel6217
@annelizebatel6217 6 ай бұрын
Israel belongs to YHVH and He gave it to them.
@zeedot01
@zeedot01 11 ай бұрын
❤️🇮🇱❤️
@janiceridsdale2904
@janiceridsdale2904 7 ай бұрын
AND PRIOR TO THAT IT WAS CALLED ISRAEL FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS = HENSE ISRAELS NATIONAL ANTHEM
@commentsedited
@commentsedited 8 ай бұрын
It's called Jerusalem for a reason. Not palesruselum.. It's what is left of Judea.
@lyoung8584
@lyoung8584 3 жыл бұрын
I wish this could be played on mainstream media TODAY by ALL people who prefer to believe unfounded claims! I pray for the people in Israel!
@nurieln
@nurieln 3 жыл бұрын
@O Car Arabs could use such a "wasted" prayer. It worked for Israel which is a GEM in the shit pool of the middle east
@ghostaccount9865
@ghostaccount9865 7 ай бұрын
Full of lies. Where do you wanna play it ? If you wanna just brainwash people with shit everywhere. This is not helpful. You want the truth unearth the lands underneath of your settlements. They are full of mass grave of Palestinians.
@jerusalem330
@jerusalem330 8 ай бұрын
Muslims and the left .... "How dare you teach us history" !
@ebcsecurity9490
@ebcsecurity9490 3 жыл бұрын
THEY MUST attack Gods people who have been given the final revelation and all surrounding regions out of envy. If they don't, then they must concede they follow a false faith (Christian/Jew). What a lowly way to live.
@isabelreyes6387
@isabelreyes6387 8 ай бұрын
Great history lesson too bad mass psychosis has gripped the ancestors of a few foreign goat herders aka “the Palestinians”
@tn2113
@tn2113 3 жыл бұрын
This video is Misinformed... 🤨🤨I see through the propaganda 🙄🙄
@squijeelulu
@squijeelulu Жыл бұрын
👏👏👏❤✡🔯🕎
@Sayfa2121
@Sayfa2121 7 ай бұрын
Ottomans never occupied, they conquered and ruled
@TIMMYSIPRANO
@TIMMYSIPRANO 3 жыл бұрын
THIS SOUNDS LIKE WHAT THE SETTLERS IN AMERICA SAID TOO= " OH THERE WAS BARELY ANYONE LIVING THERE, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A NATIVE AMERICAN PEOPLE" NICE PROPAGANDA VIDEO THERE BUDDY.
@lpaqraq7395
@lpaqraq7395 2 жыл бұрын
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@user-px6mq6nm4e
@user-px6mq6nm4e 8 ай бұрын
Ottoman occupied Israel not Palestine...
@bluecollarmenproductions
@bluecollarmenproductions 5 ай бұрын
What’s the difference
@Benjamin-vm8di
@Benjamin-vm8di 4 ай бұрын
​@@bluecollarmenproductionsIsrael = a name given to the land by the indigenous people. Palestine = a name given to the land by European colonials and invaders. That is the difference.
@mohammedumarsiddiqui1944
@mohammedumarsiddiqui1944 3 жыл бұрын
lol this is a joke of a documentary.
@themagnificentleapwithcoac1880
@themagnificentleapwithcoac1880 9 ай бұрын
sounds like propaganda to me. they have a clear narrative and aim for it, and it doesn't square with the other accounts that i'm reading
@HASA1107
@HASA1107 3 жыл бұрын
This video is biased and misleading.
@aksaleskikaya690
@aksaleskikaya690 3 жыл бұрын
THEY LAİY ABOUT THE HİSTERY THEY AR MANIPULET THE TRUE HİSTORİ
@pharohbender
@pharohbender 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting theory, what are your facts and figures to suggest otherwise? We know the Romans did expel the Jews... so please enlighten us with your knowledge.
@aksaleskikaya690
@aksaleskikaya690 3 жыл бұрын
@@pharohbender wen the liays o so fest the truhth wil com en pesth the liays
@antoniofarinaccio541
@antoniofarinaccio541 8 ай бұрын
Palestine or Not Palestine. The presence of Jews wear only one of the many minority under the Ottoman Turkish empire. There was no Palestine as well no Israel. The two came in to being under the Zionist Jews as soon as they claimed the land for them self. Palestinian as locals, took their identity to distinguish them self from new comers. Religion divides do not unite humanity, "the Devil is he ho divides," In the old biblical scriptures (Aramaic.) Let it be a lesson to all religious fanatics, "If that is the case then give back to Caesar that is to Caesars." The Turks have a clam to it, the Romans, Greeks, Egypt. It dose not work that way.
@ahmadmir3277
@ahmadmir3277 2 жыл бұрын
Well don't worry it's been just almost 100 yrs.. and very soon land will b back to its rightful owners and cancer cut out
@rachelsamuel3328
@rachelsamuel3328 Жыл бұрын
The land has returned by the original owners.
@omegaa2012
@omegaa2012 2 жыл бұрын
Lies and misinformation
@reiali3290
@reiali3290 2 жыл бұрын
Another propaganda video.
@Tk-ku5bh
@Tk-ku5bh 3 жыл бұрын
So who built the dome on the rock mosque which is over a thousand years old. Muslims Palestinian have lived here for thousands of years and the Jews convert came from Europe during second world war.
@leorabrisblat7083
@leorabrisblat7083 3 жыл бұрын
The mosque was built on top of the Jewish temple.
@tagbarzeev3571
@tagbarzeev3571 2 жыл бұрын
About 50 percent of the Israeli Jewish population is Mizrahi jews or eastern jews who have lived in the Levant and adjacent areas for thousands of years.Not European. Jews are not European that was our home of The Diaspora.Eretz Israel is our home.Lets both be civil so we can try and share the land.
@danieljakes5949
@danieljakes5949 7 ай бұрын
You built a mosque on top of a Jewish holy site. Don't you find that disrespectful?
@user-qh4ff3jc2w
@user-qh4ff3jc2w 9 ай бұрын
Whether it's an official state or not still does not give you people the right to set up a Jewish State on their land. Set up a Jewish stayed in the UK or better yet Britain. You set them up in your front yard not somebody else's.
@danieljakes5949
@danieljakes5949 7 ай бұрын
There we're two Jewish states even before Islam was a thing in that land . Why do Muslims deny that jews belonged to the Levant? Secondly mizrhahi Jews we're all expelled from Muslim nations and now account for over 60% of the Jewish population in Israel, where should they go to? Expelling them was a sign that they didn't belong in the Arab world , they belonged to the Levant
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