Why 95% of Players Hold Their Paddle Wrong (Don't USE the WRONG Grip!)

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[@peterhale8468]

I asked Jordan this exact question about two years ago, and he said he would do a video about it...good things come to those who wait. Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant video!!! I'm delighted both Jordan and Caden shared their individual approaches. Caden's constant slight Eastern grip for all shots would naturally lead to more consistency. However, I really like Jordan's stronger Eastern grip on the backhand flick and roll. Just more things to practice and add to your arsenal. Thanks so much guys!!!

[@BrionesPickleball]

Thanks for watching!

[@davegenet]

Without a tennis background but a few years playing pickleball I’ve essentially evolved to Jordan’s approach even including an eastern backhand (on occasion) for certain shots. Great video.

[@BrionesPickleball]

Thanks!!

[@vincecepeda247]

Awesome video! You two are a fantastic team and very entertaining!

[@BrionesPickleball]

😎

[@midaxsax]

I’ve just recently switched from continental to eastern forehand mostly at the baseline for serves, returns and third shots and it’s added power and topspin to my drives. I’ve committed to working my 2-handed backhand and I’m still experimenting with eastern at the kitchen line. One thing that helps me keep track of what grip I’m using is that I usually keep my index finger on the paddle face in continental, but I’ll wrap the finger around the grip when I’m in eastern.

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[@aljerones99]

So, Caden and I are brothas from anothah mothah! I am always in a slightly eastern grip for all my single-handed paddle shots. I have not started working on double-handed technique. I love to dish top spin and I come from a tablet tennis background. So, I believe in the subtle movement of the wrist to influence the trajectory of the ball when I hit it. One important thing that I wished either of you would have touched on is the fact that everyone's body is different and this (as far as paddle handling is concerned) is influenced by width and depth of the palm, length of fingers, flexibility of the wrist and also natural range of motion of the joints of the entire hand. Truth be told, the slight eastern grip for Caden might equal the continental for Jordan just because of the difference in their individual hand/wrist mechanics, composition and range of motion. BTW, Caden should patent and copyright his dance before someone tries to steal it. 😂

[@BrionesPickleball]

LOL

[@bretwallach9863]

Great message (try various grips for different shots and see what works for you) and very comforting. When I first started playing pickleball everyone told me that continental grip was the only choice (for the ready position) at the kitchen line. That just did NOT work for me as hard as I tried as it made me pop up everything on the forehand side (especially volleys). I think the configuration of my shoulder, elbow, arm, wrist and hand bones and joints is such that (almost) eastern for me is equivalent to continental for everyone else. We're all different, right? The only thing I'd add is that for higher balls I use a semi-western grip on the forehand side and a grip rotated a bit beyond continental (whatever it's called) on the backhand side. Not much opportunity (not many high balls in pickleball, unlike tennis) but it adds a little top spin with no cost.

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[@angietalley6367]

You're so right about different grips for each person. Everyone is built different. In my case I was told I need to use continental grip when I started playing pickleball a year 1/2 ago. I been struggling with pop ups. Not until recently I started to experiment with Eastern grip that really helped a lot ! I'm still working on improving my muscle memory. So everyone , don't be afraid to try different techniques and angles.

[@Rocketrecliner]

Interesting. Coming from tennis the continental grip was really all there was at net. However, just as Caden demonstrated, I've noticed at the 4.0 / 4.5 level that more players are using Eastern on both sides at net. I couldn't figure out if that put them at a disadvantage on the backhand side or not, but I guess it doesn't if your wrist can bend enough to allow for it. It would be an interesting poll for Pro players to ask them what grip they use at net and see what kind of variability exists. Thanks for the video.

[@BrionesPickleball]

Great poll idea!

[@drjjbdc]

Watched the video lesson, tried it today in rec play I'm with Caden semi eastern worked really well for me for most shots. Was using continental now semi eastern. I'm doing Caden's goofy dance

[@BrionesPickleball]

Lol

[@caponteh]

Great video and appreciate the close up views! You answered my request 🎉❤!

[@BrionesPickleball]

Np!

[@overwhaleming]

Pls do a full comprehensive guide on the two handed backhand for drives and drops! I’ve been watching your stuff and it’s superb. I wish I had the chance to be coached by you guys in person. Would also like a video on how to deal with slices. I play at the 3.0 level and it’s not easy sometimes playing with people who slice every ball. Keep up the good work!

[@BrionesPickleball]

Will do!

[@thebullzi]

Great video! Thank you for sharing.

[@BrionesPickleball]

Thanks for watching!

[@garywilson8331]

Jordan - many thanks for all the great videos, paddle reviews and advice over the years, from an old bloke in England. I'm intrigued, do players wear compression pants under their shorts?

[@BrionesPickleball]

Lots of pros do !

[@carlosjgarcia2000]

I concur with the confusion in the nomenclature. Western is always in the direction of the forehand topspin.

[@BrionesPickleball]

Western is an extreme forehand grip. Yes.

[@dougniwa8886]

That was a good one, thanks.

[@BrionesPickleball]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@cinajawa]

I’m a 3.5-4.0 tennis player. I hit a semi western drive for a heavy topspin in tennis, but in pickleball I find it difficult because the ball keeps going to the net. So I use a semi eastern or eastern to generate topspin on my serve and drive

[@BrionesPickleball]

Awesome !!!

[@FPVenius]

It's funny; I didn't realize I was changing grips (with my dominant hand) until I started playing with my off-hand with my kids and the angles felt weird. That must have come from ping pong (although I don't remember ever specifically thinking about doing it.)

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Cool!

[@lukejessen8645]

Great video! Thanks

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Glad you liked it!

[@GIO_RUBBLE]

great tips thanks btw no lead on your luxx? whats your weigh in at?

[@BrionesPickleball]

I have a little bit 8.6

[@kmaqueira]

Hello, what equipment do you use to record gameplay?

[@BrionesPickleball]

Sony ZV1

[@Bob_DaBuilder-i3x]

Eastern from baseline, full continental at kitchen line. The backhands are just too good with continental.

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[@BJJandBS]

That looks like a very Phoenix backyard! What part of town are you guys in? Would love to play sometime.

[@BrionesPickleball]

East valley!

[@BJJandBS]

@@BrionesPickleball right on! Chandler here. Where do you typically play?

[@George-gm1dt]

Does Caden overhead with semi eastern?

[@BrionesPickleball]

Slightly eastern, yes

[@okayest_amateur]

Doesnt changing grips reduce consistency and handspeed due to having to change grip?

[@BrionesPickleball]

It definitely can, but if you are doing it at strategic times, it won’t be a problem

[@yesmoonpotatoes]

Semi Eastern lol. I actually prefer the eastern backhand (bevel 1) since it’s what I’m used to in tennis. This allows for a way more aggressive spin and slice on your back hands and return of serves.

[@BrionesPickleball]

Yes

[@86309]

did you cover how you are switching grips one handed?

[@BrionesPickleball]

Not sure what you mean… You can just rotate the grip in your hand.

[@awol94]

How does this translate to left handed players?

[@BrionesPickleball]

The same way, you would just reverse it.

[@RobShaffer]

Man, Caden is really hyper in this one. LOL.

[@BrionesPickleball]

lol

[@evanhayes5891]

The Senoran DESERT!!

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Cactus 🌵

[@evanhayes5891]

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[@tsar5117]

Someone threw a boogie bomb at 8:02

[@BrionesPickleball]

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[@mex5341]

This is already intuitive, I don’t know how you can learn this by forcing yourself to change the grip during a game . After hours of Pb you just do it without even noticing it

[@BrionesPickleball]

Yes, it’s a learned and practiced skill. Just like you can practice your footwork, you can practice your grips for your shots

[@DroidX1337]

Would of been cool to see some unorthodox grips like full western at the kitchen

[@BrionesPickleball]

Next time!

[@yesmoonpotatoes]

@@DroidX1337 western seems insane in pickleball considering that paddles can’t grip as well as tennis strings. Hell even a lot of pros on the atp tour don’t use a western grip anymore. Not for nothing a western grip can also increase the chance to develop tennis elbow esp for those with imperfect form.

[@austinbarnes3764]

I had a friend just like Caden back in middle school. 8:02

[@BrionesPickleball]

Lol

[@XxKiLLaKoop420]

13:56 come on Caden, are you kidding?

[@BrionesPickleball]

Nope he’s serious 🧐

[@NathanBrantley]

How much pre-workout did Caden have before the shoot here 😂

[@BrionesPickleball]

72 grams

[@mrbeanspainting]

my gun grip not there

[@BrionesPickleball]

Lol

[@juice1837]

I think you guys confused the words western and eastern. Western grip is used for more topspin on the forehand. Eastern is used for more topsin on the backhand

[@BrionesPickleball]

Nope, what we said is what we meant

[@thisforbirdie]

@juice1837 annnnd they won’t admit they’re wrong. Tennis players know. Tell me you’ve never played tennis without telling me you’ve never played tennis.😊

[@BrionesPickleball]

Lol

[@BrionesPickleball]

I’ve just learned it the traditional way from years and years ago.

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You can say a lot more if you want to 😎

[@MichaelMichaelM]

totally BS

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What part ?

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[@pickleballsamurai]

thanks good !!galaxy!!

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Thank you too!