Why aero testing Gen3 is so crucial | Supercars 2022

[@pauledwards7739]

can't wait for the video explaining how it all went wrong around this time next year Larko.

[@Tv-cr2qf]

Never leave v8 Supercars commentary larko

[@yusuf.alajnabi]

It's really good to see aerodynamic parity between the two makes of cars. I think the importance of this really came to be know back in the late 90s early 2000s with the ford AU which had major issues with its aerodynamics in turn started project blueprint.

[@vipergtsrgt1]

Thank you so much for taking the time to explain the aero development in such thorough detail!

[@waynemac9869]

Can't wait for the first round. Thanks larko for explaining the way you did.

[@Peter_NatureLover_TrollHater]

Great comment, thanks from Scotland, Peter x

[@roadracing3]

Cheers from the USA! Larko and the crew do an amazing job on the Gen3 dissections. NASCAR and its broadcast partners dropped the ball on deep dives of its Gen7 racecar. You guys have nailed the deep dives on the SuperCar Gen3!

[@benblakemore4195]

Tell ya what Larko, 😊 This is bloody exciting mate! Fantastic that we have had this opperrunity to see the development process. Gosh nascar could have a good hard look at how they present their series and learn a thing or two about fan engagement hahaha!! Nice one V8supercars... cant wait this N.Z. Fanboy!

[@gregcleeve6810]

It's been a long journey to get tho this stage Larko....and with you reporting back to us, it makes it a very interesting one at that. Thank You! I was of the understanding when the Gen 3 cars hit the track, it was to save money by having the same "under pinnings" for each brand of body that sat on top of them. I just can't imagine the costs already endured in setting up this formula that will take these cars into the future. I guess the ticket pricing will become so much more to cover it, or am I just being incredulous or suspicious?

[@hughjohnson2674]

There’s a lot of TV money involved, Supercar racing coverage is popular on pay TV in the US, as well as the Uk and Europe. But it’s the uS pay TV money that’s important, hence Mustangs and Camaros are a great choice and wii attract lots of fans. One of the reasons that the Manufacturers are insisting that the cars profile is the same as production. Unlike our 4” shorter commodores and blimp topped Falcons from Gen 2.

[@gregcleeve6810]

@@hughjohnson2674 Thanks for that Hugh, I know its a more complex answer than I was posting....even though I still think we will be asked for more of our dough at the gate to cover their development costs.

[@hughjohnson2674]

@@gregcleeve6810 I suspect that you’re probably right, it’s a “good” reason🙄

[@settz61]

Thx Larko - really good synopsis of what's happening during testing and Gen 3 transition. Personally I'm very sad to see the end of Australian cars and competition. Well that happens - unfortunately. The consolidation of an Australian racing series to using American cars is a bit more than I like. Having said that I will now support a driver not a manufacturer - I suspect the expected outcome as it sells cars :)

[@Peter_NatureLover_TrollHater]

*FORD is an American Company!*

[@TassieLorenzo]

@@Peter_NatureLover_TrollHater As is General Motors Holden!

[@chrisnoname2725]

@@Peter_NatureLover_TrollHater Everyone knows that and it always was. The op never said anything about them being Australian companies. Commodores and Falcons were Australian cars. They were cars that normal people had and could feel it was part of Australia and like they were not so far from what they have (you don't need to explain to me that they are not the same car as a road car) Mustangs and Camaros are not the same, they have always been expensive sports cars for people with money. It makes everything feel very different and the sport feel disconnected from normal people. They might as well be driving Ferraris.

[@Peter_NatureLover_TrollHater]

@@TassieLorenzo Vauxhall is older than them all & is a UK company. Australia is part of the UK Commonwealth, thus Holden has a proper home-grown pedigree.

[@Peter_NatureLover_TrollHater]

@@chrisnoname2725 Correct! I was just pointing out that Ford has always been an American Company, thus could never be an "Australian car". Sorry for not being clearer.

[@lesclarke5600]

Love your work Larko.

[@sorrynobraincell]

Love the cars. Can’t wait to see them next year

[@Steveaustin007]

Nothing much will change . The Holden success over the last 5 decades with cams & Supecars have had an unbelievably close relationship and cooperation can’t be denied or underestimated.

[@jeffwilliam7500]

Haha 😭😭😭 it was a "muscle car" v a family 4 door and still got woopped sux to be a Ford fan hey?

[@marioslider6337]

@@jeffwilliam7500 Ford have won f1 championships, world rally championships and everything else in between. They produced the best small block V8 the boss 351 and the best big block with the amazing 427 cammer. They invented the pony car which everyone copied and they brought in the retro looking Mustangs in the 2000s which everyone copied. Suxs to be a GM fan hey!

[@marioslider6337]

@@jeffwilliam7500 Oops, forgot to mention Le Mans and the GT40. And everyones come in my pants car the Shelby Cobra.

[@nanobyte5567]

@@jeffwilliam7500 ​They’re both race cars engineered to meet chassis and performance requirements. Their production model characteristics are irrelevant because of this. I don’t know what you’re trying to get at unless you’re stuck in that mindset of “Win on Sunday, sell on Monday”.

[@Steveaustin007]

@@jeffwilliam7500 5 door , you mean. Well Only one of us has a HSV Club Sport VF in the garage. Ford are the ones laughing , they are still in business. What a dumb comment you make.

[@leongt1954]

With less downforce will give SVG a bigger advantage than he already has over the rest

[@chapel976]

Man, NASCAR just needs to adopt these cars...

[@tturi2]

This is the type of video I love to watch ❤️

[@jgonzalezvazquez]

Larko lo explica con las manos 🤣!! 👍👍🇪🇦🇦🇷

[@seanwilson9117]

I really wish NASCAR and Supercars had collaborated to have a shared platform for some potential crossover entries in key events. Huge missed opportunity for both series.

[@hughjohnson2674]

I’m not so sure Australian fans are interested in oval racing, I know that NASCARS operate on circuits as well but their natural home seems to be ovals I don’t think the Aussie fans would want the performance of the cars that do Bathurst, Sandown, Adelaide etc compromised to run Ovals. Not that we have more than one oval here. We tried NASCAR a bout 20 years ago, it didn’t last too long, I think we like corners that go both ways.

[@sezniteowl5398]

Hey Sean, you might think I may be misreading your comment but Nascar used to have a series in Australia (Australian Nascar Championship) now it has expanded it's series in Canada, Mexico and now Brazil. United States (NASCAR) Canda (NASCAR Pinty's Series) Mexico (NASCAR Mexico Series) Europe (NASCAR Whelen Euro Series) And now Brazil (NASCAR Brasil Sprint Race, starting in 2023)

[@SomeYouTubeGuy]

Nascar wouldn't last 3 laps on our circuits mate. Gotta brake a lot harder for real corners.

[@MICHAEL-ys3pu]

It would not work, NASCAR cars are very fast but are not as hi technical as Supercars. To put a NASCAR on a track with left and right corners a lot of things are changed from when on an oval track.

[@seanwilson9117]

@@MICHAEL-ys3pu I would usually agree, but with the next gen car having more road courses and even street circuits (like the upcoming Chicago street circuit race) was something they had in mind and wanted to have a car that could be converted to run at all the types of tracks. It's the one time it might have been possible. NASCAR already used the transaxle from the Supercars, using a shared platform was actually sensible for once.

[@shadow-r3852]

So, just out of curiosity: is there a specific reason why V8 supercars didn't become a spec racing series where everyone drives the same car if their performance numbers are exactly the same? I would've loved to see a BOP style approach to this, which would still allow cars to be different, but come out rather close in performance.

[@TassieLorenzo]

I think the suggestion is that a Mustang-only series would lose the interest of Chevrolet/Holden fans.

[@shadow-r3852]

@@TassieLorenzo Interesting, I though holden was Australias Opel and had nothing to do with Chevy?

[@TassieLorenzo]

@@shadow-r3852 Holden has used both Opel and Chevrolet pressings and engines over the years.🙂

[@moe_1886]

I'll never get tired of that V8 thunder, music to my ears... God help me when they end up going the way of the dinosaurs!!! SuperEV just doesn't compute!! 🤣

[@aimanfitri0iv]

i can't wait on gen3 it looks like a final version

[@TassieLorenzo]

Any truth to the rumour that the Ford Performance USA chief aerodynamcist came down to observe the VCAT test, but was not happy with the process or result of the VCAT test and therefore Ford Performance did not approve the result?

[@Peter_NatureLover_TrollHater]

TassieLorenzo - Please cite the source of that "rumour". We'd all be very interested to know....

[@TassieLorenzo]

@@Peter_NatureLover_TrollHater V8 Sleuth, Aaron Noonan's website.

[@Peter_NatureLover_TrollHater]

@@TassieLorenzo Hahaha! Conspiracy theories abound......! I noticed you've deleted your original explanation attempt. I applaud you for fact-checking yourself xx.

[@TassieLorenzo]

@@Peter_NatureLover_TrollHater Nah it was removed by V8 Supercars lol, so I had to include a version without a link or without a copyright excerpt from the V8 Sleuth article. 🙂 Naturally Ford Performance are wary as V8 Supercars went to alarming lengths to remove any advantage of their Mustang package in 2019. It doesn't take much for that to turn into disadvantage!

[@Peter_NatureLover_TrollHater]

@@TassieLorenzo I'm PMSL that Supercars deleted your comments. However, I'm proud of you for being honest about that, I applaud you again! Please just ask yourself why they did that?! It's because you're being a ridiculous Conspiracy Theorist Ford Fan Boy & *NOT quoting FACTS!* So sorry to say this, but I wish you a Very Merry Christmas from Scotland - I love chatting with Supercars Fans! Warmest regards, Peter x😁🤗

[@Spectre-ed6hr]

I'm confused, you took 2 rivels & made them perform exactly the same... it used to be Ford vs Holden, and now it's Ford vs GM but the cars are the same. does this mean the drivers can't adjust the cars anymore? this is stupid!

[@gdawwg1125]

No different to the previous generation cars

[@donaldthomson8965]

do you want to know more im not putting it on here but its to do with down force and its a big differance and it dont alter the look or add anything to the car

[@Grant80]

Efron what um hearing the Mustang has a great HP output which already has Chevy asking questions

[@allisterdavidson9805]

So they start a race with downforce 'parity', then 2 Fords have a minor bingle, suddenly their shape is slightly different and thus their downforce parameters will then differ from the rest of the field. Are they then not compliant anymore or is it a free for all once the race is underway ?

[@gdawwg1125]

This is formula 1 style thinking.

[@allisterdavidson9805]

@@amwashere no… you’re way off there. I’m suggesting that during the normal course of racing it’s inevitable that cars will hit something and at that point those cars will have their aerodynamics completely changed from that point on.

[@allisterdavidson9805]

@@amwashere ok.

[@LineMUp321]

I'm seriously so excited for 2023. This is going to be the best racing next year by a long shot.

[@toddc6682]

Its just more of the same. GM has to win or the rules change.

[@nickycrea6075]

@@toddc6682 GM don't sell anything in Australia, why do they have to win?

[@beauwasiak8617]

Wait so they have less downforce than the previous generation of Mustangs and Commodores? So they will be "slower"?

[@nickycrea6075]

better power to weight ratio, similar speeds "claimed"

[@ppercut]

cant wait to see think they should put there minds to the aero onto the trucks are they still useing the solid rear axel or are they going more production car relivent with a proper diff

[@Peter_NatureLover_TrollHater]

OMdays - sorry to correct: "their"; "using"; "axle"; "relevant". It's difficult to take onboard your opinion, when you lack basic grammar/spelling! It totally DETRACTS from your initial POV! Sorry to say...

[@ppercut]

@@Peter_NatureLover_TrollHater I have dyslexia but I guess you think you are perfect

[@Peter_NatureLover_TrollHater]

@@ppercut Oh no - playing the victim card! SO PATHETIC OF YOU! Everyone knows that KZbin has "tools" for people with Dyslexia. Please don't try to explain-away your lack of education, by "jumping on someone else's bandwagon"! Uuurrgh! Bye Felicia!

[@chrisnoname2725]

@@ppercut He certainly does

[@Peter_NatureLover_TrollHater]

@@chrisnoname2725 LOL! You people crack me up - you can't bear it when someone contradicts you with the proper facts! Silly little boys......SMH!

[@RainMakr]

Doesn’t this devoid the statement - race on Sunday, sell on Monday. If you make everything exactly the same. Would this not make everything too close and clear advantages? Ie you will kill the action or am I wrong? I do like the fact that the cars are closers to road going cars.

[@petert3355]

"Doesn’t this devoid the statement - race on Sunday, sell on Monday. " That statement has not applied to Australian "Touring" car racing for the last 30 years. 1993 rule changes to get rid of the skylines is what tossed that statement in the bin. As for parity racing, the argument is that it puts the winner back on the driver and not the car. Compare Supercars to say F1. Supercar races are a LOT closer and more exciting than the predictable procession that F1 has been over the past 20 years or so.

[@TassieLorenzo]

GT3 cars are certainly much closer to the road cars! Coincidentally there will be a Ford Mustang GT3 car...

[@bremCZ]

Having clear advantages for 1 side is horrible for the action. It means 1 team romps home with all the wins. Creating the parity is what makes the action. It's why Moto3 is some of the best racing on the planet. It's down to setup and driver. Race on Sunday, sell on Monday is brand value and you don't even have to win to see the value. Just the presence in the living room at all drives sales. The winning cars will still generate sales on Monday because they are simply advertising.

[@gerardcrabb4556]

This didn't pan out well 2 aero adjustments later...

[@sgan937]

How can you make them the same without wind tunnel 🥳

[@bremCZ]

Because dynamic testing delivers better results.

[@sgan937]

@@bremCZ how so in an uncontrolled environment? I love larko, but this is all spin.. real testing is done in wind tunnel..

[@bremCZ]

@@sgan937 Because wind tunnels deliver unreal conditions. It's why everything that has wind tunnel testing then needs to go and have dynamic testing.

[@andywilliams298]

​@@bremCZ,wrong

[@bremCZ]

@@andywilliams298 Ok, big fella.

[@bremCZ]

It'll be interesting to see if Super2 cars go faster than Supercars next year.

[@beagle7622]

What happens after the Camaro goes out of production next year I believe?

[@nickycrea6075]

EVs are the future, not 2 door v8 muscle cars. unfortunately

[@paultodd2375]

@@nickycrea6075 I don’t think so

[@nickycrea6075]

@@paultodd2375 explain...

[@paultodd2375]

@@nickycrea6075 how much of the planet are you willing to destroy just to get that rare earth material out of the ground just for battery cars and not to mention the whole electrical power grid will have to be completely re engineered and to make sure you can power all these electric cars every house building blocks will have to additional wiring for all the chargers for every single car in the building who’s going to pay for all this you or government

[@nickycrea6075]

​@@paultodd2375 that's why I'm planning to stick to my Mazda 3. still what I meant was v8s are the past, not economical and most car manufactures are moving to EV. car companies a stupid to spend money on outdated tech. The last word in my first comment was "Unfortunately" cause we actually agree.

[@mikespencer9913]

Excessive downforce has ruined F1 (IMHO), and thank goodness VASC hasn't fallen into that "trap"! Thanks for the 'peek behind the curtain', Larko! It's always a tossup between you and Crompo who my favorite Presenter is. I've finally decided I don't need to choose. You both are legends!!!

[@chrisnoname2725]

Was F1 ever meant to be about competitive racing? I thought it was about everyone being the best they can and building the best cars and the entertainment factor was not the main priority.

[@kymnewman3518]

low down grunt makes them easier to drive off a turn

[@wattosacrim]

9:30 trademark gisbergen bump

[@davkrod]

They might as well ban wings altogether.

[@taniadean6338]

The race is in Newcastle in 2023

[@davkrod]

The only way to achieve parity is a one-make series.

[@Peter_NatureLover_TrollHater]

davkrod - NOPE! That's just a very common misconception.

[@wattosacrim]

I just got into supercars a few months ago on the back of a very disappointing few years of cricket and AFL. I'm excited to see American cars in this sport because it could just give V8 the exposure they need. And i'm so keen to see closer racing. Sick and tired of watching follow the leader.

[@Peter_NatureLover_TrollHater]

"American cars" have always been in the sport - I.E FORD.

[@km6832]

I dont know why yall equate less downforce to better racing. Someone explain. 60% less downforce with the same tires and just as heavy cars? Will turn into a tyre management festival.

[@TassieLorenzo]

The new cars are 100kg lighter thanks to the aluminium engine blocks and full carbon fibre bodywork.

[@chrisnoname2725]

But they got to make a video and get some ad revenue, make the audience feel engaged woth the changes and feel smarter because now they can tell people they know about aerodynamics or something and they are promising better racing. Next year the commentators will be able to talk about the tyre management strategies. The sport runs on the story they can tell, not so much on the racing.

[@km6832]

@@TassieLorenzo 100 kilos is a lot i must admit. But still

[@chrisnoname2725]

They're looking for the cars to be twitchier i assume so they can slide around the corners and need a bit more skill to drive, so drivers can overtake when another makes a mistake more often, it might effect turbulence and make less difference in speed by coming out of the slip stream but i don't know. Cars sliding is more interesting and maybe just more crashes equals more better.

[@km6832]

@@chrisnoname2725 sliding means wasting tire life. No team wants that More crashes means more money spent to repair. No team wants that either so it will be a tire saving festival

[@HEKTIC458]

I hope this ends up better for V8 supercars & the racing, time will tell.

[@georgethorne6177]

2 makes wat to see more different makes of çars

[@dirkdiggler9174]

Love the cars , love the sound but to be honest the whole concept of making them identical in specs all sounds boring to me . I always like the fact somebody coming up with a little tweak here or there to make a difference , after all that’s what always advanced technology in my books . Sounds like they want to make everything equal in the world just like the people today….boring 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@chrisnoname2725]

Might as well just watch go karts

[@MattyS02]

That's also what blows out budgets and ends up with fewer teams on the grid.

[@stickdeath1980]

F#%*Ken love ya larko!!!!

[@matt.ja90]

2 words... Wind Tunnel.

[@cjcoleman7372]

So how can a simple guy like me in the U.S get some of the body parts and the Spendle mount wheels and kit for the wheels?? I have a Camaro that needs them in its life. It told me so lol.

[@brucemcginty9751]

Unfortunately not one bit of these reflect a street car. Every single part is custom made race car

[@cjcoleman7372]

@Bruce Mcginty well some of that needs to change! Truth be told, it doesn't have to be carbon fiber or space age metals. I would Grand Touring my SS looking like the SC Gen 3 Camaro only with an interior and AC. Lol

[@cjcoleman7372]

@Bruce Mcginty I do get what you mean though. Kind of like NASCAR did back in the day, right? Run what you brung and what wins on Sunday sells on Monday kind of thing. I agree 👍. I think there should be 3 classes imo. Showroom stock (with cages and safety equipment), what they are doing now where the drivers come into play only (basically) and then unlimited class.

[@paulprice1994]

sorry they maybe technicaly advanced race cars but having watched car racing in Australia for the last 45 years, I would rather watch the touring car masters series

[@bradchrist1981]

I just can't wait too see these cars & Australia's and New Zealand's best drivers with the best teams and sponsors putting on a show for 2023 and further! It'll be the intricacies, talent and that roar of a V8 that'll keep this sport, I'll love so much alive. 🫡👍🏼😎

[@MegaROCKY001]

I do not trust Supercars with parity. The new formula is needed though

[@geoffhendy]

Why not only have one brand, Ford? You can't buy Comaro in Aust. That would make it even more boring.

[@RBFR01]

The cars are just kit cars now.

[@davos4wdadventures]

WAU must think the ford is up on the GM ..

[@mediatick33]

I have been told by a couple of people the Camaro is not handeling well at all even though there is complete parity between both of the cars evdn if you watch the footage from testing in corners the Camaro is washing wide off of the corners no matter what they do to it. The Camaro is not going to work as a supercar.

[@Steveaustin007]

Supercars will make sure it works and slow the Mustangs . No parity changes since The Opels started to dominate in August , 2019. Only improved cooling for the opels at the start of 2022.

[@davos4wdadventures]

@@Steveaustin007 V8 super cars are famous for slowing the ford up.. eb-el days also..

[@XeKToReX0]

@@Steveaustin007 Salt should be on your chips

[@Steveaustin007]

@@XeKToReX0 very clever statement you make . The houses and bogans will be proud of you . Only people that understand the history in Australia since the 1970’s And know about what actually happened & unbiased will agree.

[@tinaalwayswins]

Im sure if Ford is faster they will, well you know how it goes.

[@Peter_NatureLover_TrollHater]

????????????!!! We can tell that English isn't your first language. No problem - everyone can access "Google Translate", just type your native tongue.

[@toddc6682]

Yep we know. At least 7 changes to make damn sure they won't be anymore.

[@zchettaz]

So compared to gen 2, the gen 3 supercars make around 50hp less, have 60% less downforce and increased aero drag, yet they somehow still reach the same top speed? Im aware that it's all supposed to be more cost efficient for the teams, but my logical mind thinks that having cars closer together on the track would have an increased risk of more crashes, thus requiring extra production of all these custom shaped panels and mouldings, therefore its not really being more cost effective. Or perhaps im completely wrong?

[@MattyS02]

No, DEcreased aero drag, hence why they make a similar top speed with less power.

[@zchettaz]

@MattyS02 Better aero INcreases the downforce - more downforce means more drag, therefore you are INcreasing the aero drag. This is what he says at 08:12 and that it kills straight line speed, hence my confusion at how they can still reach the same top speed as the gen 2s

[@nickycrea6075]

less weight and better power to weight ratio, we'll see when the hit the track in anger.

[@zchettaz]

@@nickycrea6075 I don't think less weight improves overall top speed - rather, it will accelerate faster and have better fuel economy because the engine doesn't need to work as hard (this is newton's law of motion, F = ma) I dunno, im guessing they've tested its top speed, so i must be wrong lol i just can't make sense of it.

[@nickycrea6075]

@@zchettaz since the Power to weight ratio has improved speed will be around the same. we'll know for sure when the cars hit the track.

[@handza]

All this cost will translate into a viable business model of sales for Chev Im sure. Aussies weren’t buying holdens at $60-$70k………..but I’m sure they will buy a camero for a cool $120-140k. Can’t wait to put a deposit down on one 🙄 Oh wait, are they even bringing them into the country in 2023 ?

[@slickstrings]

Its no longer about manufacturers racing. Since holden and falcon are dead, its simply a revamp of the buisness to keep the supercars show viable. Its an entertainment industry, and their goal is to keep it entertaining.

[@pizzaki582]

gm won't even be making ice passenger cars in 10 years.

[@chrisnoname2725]

@@slickstrings All that means is that the sport doesn't have the part that made it attractive to people anymore. Maybe it should have wrapped up and they should have started something different. Leave supercars as what it was and in the past with the cars that used to race in it. It's not like anyone had to lose their jobs, just change the name and then run it however works best but it is jarring to continue with the name but without any resemblance of what it was.

[@paultodd2375]

@@pizzaki582 gm has just announced that they will be making a big investment into the next small block v8

[@jeffwilliam7500]

But yet it was a Ford "muscle car" v Holden's door family car for how long? 🤔 nothing at all to do with driver positioning advantage Ford had 🙄

[@Peter_NatureLover_TrollHater]

*I'm SO happy to see/hear about the lengths Supercars go to "ensure parity"!* Let's hope THIS VIDEO will silence all of those ridiculously ignorant "conspiracy theorists" out there! Fingers crossed 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞

[@bremCZ]

It won't.

[@Peter_NatureLover_TrollHater]

@@bremCZ Aww noooo! Please don't burst my bubble - I'm forever hopeful/optimistic! LOL! ☺🤔🤗

[@davidw2033]

For all this testing to make for closer racing there is only one thing that will keep the field closer. . . . It’s called a safety car. It’s ruined motorsports.

[@dranthappens]

They can ramble on as much as they want about how it's all equal, but the proof of the pudding is in the eating. I can't see anything changing as far as the results

[@nanobyte5567]

They seriously need to stop allowing teams to modify/engineer certain parts of the car. Triple 8 has the best suspension engineering out of the field, but it’s really hurting the sport competition wise. It’s time Supercars take some notes from GT3 balance of performance

[@dranthappens]

@@nanobyte5567 they should either do what NASCAR does which is every single car is the exact same or they can do what TCR does which is have a weight penalty if you start winning too much

[@toyotaecw]

@@dranthappens The Gen 3 rollout will still be better than the NextGen rollout in NASCAR.

[@mockbattles]

@@toyotaecw this is closer to what NASCAR used to be.

[@nickycrea6075]

@@nanobyte5567 suspension is provided by Pedders. All teams use it but it was made a control component because ONE team decided they wanted to use their own stuff. That team was actually Penske. T8 have the best Engineers, best drivers and best mechanics. they rarely make a mistake and are rewarded for it.

[@tremaineterupe9646]

Did he say more crashes?😂

[@toms5oh]

TRANS AM lol

[@mostyszn]

It’s cool, but it doesn’t feel the same…

[@chrisnoname2725]

That's because it's not. They are just greedy and are hoping by keeping the name that they can keep the fans blindly following without putting the effort in to market it as a new series and attract fans. If they had have made something new i would have respected that but this shows how lazy they are and i find it very jarring.

[@gdawwg1125]

@@chrisnoname2725 who do you mean my they ?

[@chrisnoname2725]

@@gdawwg1125 the owners and management of the series

[@dalewarriorofthesea3998]

Keep the GM just in front Helps extract the maximum dollar downforce and drag efficiency from the bogan pockets

[@glengirot3087]

💪♥️👌

[@cheynemorrell5607]

This gen will be the most boring racing all cars are the same this time next year everyone will be crying saying how boring it will be called precision racing won't be much passing

[@cheynemorrell5607]

@@amwashere nah mate u wish

[@johnnycomelately6341]

BOOOOO to parity !

[@kymnewman3518]

Paratised isnt a word

[@skippyf.t.pfilmthepolice2358]

Chevy all day long.

[@juanmontoya6622]

It is foolish to Europeanize Australia's Supercars. Holden is gone, and now down force. WTF!!!! What's next? Lead Ballast for winners as reward for their efforts? Surf board thick plank to destroy downforce further?

[@scottpodesta4340]

I think it's backwards thinking with the direction of supercars. Cars now with 60% less downforce. That mean slower into corners and exit. Unstable cars with wasted power. What's the point. I want to see more downforce more corner speed that means more competitive races. Typical Australian backwards thinking.

[@scottpodesta4340]

My exit of interest is now complete. F1 is way more interesting and fun. I won't be watching anymore.

[@MattyS02]

More downforce leads to less passing, like F1, where they can't pass without DRS. Less downforce, and therefore less aero wash, means cars can follow each other closer without a performance drop off and actually make passing manoeuvres.

[@ROWSELLTV]

This is so backwards, this years cars are hard enough to drive let alone taking 60% downforce away.. all this is going to do is put more cars in the fence next year, all these drivers will be hunting the grip they are used to and itll cost some people some money.. Supercars are trying to build a worse car then this year. and by the comments of the fulltime drivers i think they've achieved that . sorry not sorry

[@kiwicam6419]

I hope the teams will be smart enough to recognise that and drive to the new limits. It will cost them of they don't.

[@chrisnoname2725]

Crashes get highlights in the sport segment of the news. A smashed car will get more viewers than a podium shot.

[@MattyS02]

You think these drivers aren't good enough to realise that maybe they'll have to take it back and build up to the new limits? Maybe also the amount of downforce the current cars have would allow them to go into corners with too much confidence and make mistakes? Very short sighted comment.

[@mockbattles]

Australians still can’t pronounce Camaro.

[@SomeYouTubeGuy]

Who cares? Ridiculous over priced damn things anyway.

[@mockbattles]

@@SomeKZbinGuy the RHD version costs about the same as an entry level C8 ‘vette in the US!

[@chrisnoname2725]

Maybe the car isn't that interesting to Australians. They will probably see it and think it looks pretty but there is no attachment to it, it is foreign.

[@chrismalikoff9949]

These cars are truly awesome, but I really do miss the days where the better car and driver won on the day, causing the competitors to up their game in response. Constant leap-frogging made it exciting and pushed the boundaries. This formulaic racing leaves me a bot cold.

[@freedomfighter5054]

And that’s how you ruin racing but matching two different cars to go to same speed same error dynamics should just come to the track with your car the other car same thing and race

[@sriley064]

Yeah I'm sure it's not rigged towards Chev like it has been almost every year since the series inception

[@Peter_NatureLover_TrollHater]

Shane Riley - PMSL! Yet another *Ford fan-boy conspiracy theorist!* Ford is an AMERICAN COMPANY! SMH!

[@davidw2033]

For all this testing to make for closer racing there is only one thing that will keep the field closer. . . . It’s called a safety car. It’s ruined motorsports.