Why Airplanes Fly On A Curved Path

[@highcrimes9153]

I left JFK in New York, headed for Shanghai. The jet headed north over Canada, towards Alaska, then moved over the Bering Sea into China. Flight time 14 hours. It was absolutely amazing!

[@repent.sinner]

We live on a flat stationary earth with a dome over us, not debatable and pilots know this they never dipped the nose they fly straight to the place and why does a plane have to fly from one destination to the other because the earth does not move it's very simple. In the flight pattern looks curved because that's how it really is a straight line on a flat earth, they've deceived the daylights out of you and the world.

[@MrPoornakumar]

@highcrimes9153 Avoid looking at Mercator projection & look on a globe, you won't feel amazed.

[@evanreiter747]

How do you sleep On a flight that long ?

[@repent.sinner]

@@evanreiter747 read my comment.

[@HappyCap-xg2pr]

Well, flights are usually as long as 8 hours. Suprisingly, it varies of how far the destination is.

[@areza15143]

Apart from the jet stream and other reasons not to fly a straight path, a lot of words are used to explain the very simple concept that a flat map distorts what’s actually a straight, direct path.

[@jeffreyerwin3665]

Correct. If you place a string between the two points of travel on a globe (rather than on a map) the the string will be a straight line between the points.

[@peterhoebarth4234]

@@jeffreyerwin3665 , in correct, earth is flat.

[@hb1338]

@@jeffreyerwin3665 No it won't. Any path along the surface of a sphere or at a fixed altitude above the sphere is curved.

[@jeffreyerwin3665]

@@hb1338 good point. However , if that curved path is observed from the vertical, it will appear to be straight, The "straight line" Mercator projection wiil always be seen as curved, even from the vertical.

[@whyyeseyec]

@@hb1338 True! If planes flew in a straight line, they would simply fly off into space (or until they ran out of air). They fly a curved path because gravity is constantly pulling on them, thus keeping them on their curved path.

[@turcenoarthurjamil4364]

A seafarer here, fan of your videos...Its called the Great Circle Sailing and there lots of calculations involve into it. We do sometimes when especially travelling for long distances over an ocean....

[@Keli_mafuyu]

Yeah, sticking along the great circle route will definitely be harder than travelling through rhumb line

[@theknightswhosay]

Just avoid the ice.

[@dpeasehead]

@turcenoarthurjamil4364: Thanks for posting! I was about to ask about the effects of the earth curvature on relatively slow moving vessels close to the surface of the earth

[@99.9percent9]

Magnetic North (Compass), True North (North Star - Polaris) & Grid North (Map) all magnetic variation adjustment really is, is the adjustment made from flat earth to globe. It's the adjustment correction made to navigate 'as it is' *Alexander Gleason 1892 map* Some Captains of both planes and boats/ships remain wilfully ignorant because they are very indoctrinated to the system & can't get their heads around they have been lied to.

[@lowandslow3939]

I began seafaring so long ago that at the edges of my charts was the annotation “Thar be Dragons”.

[@bertg.6056]

Speaking of jet streams, I was returning to San Diego from Germany last week, and in a Lufthansa A350-900, the altitude over Provo Utah was 43,000 feet. I had never been that high in a military jet !

[@99.9percent9]

Lufthansa *Military* Jet A350-900¿

[@langleywallingford260]

It was to avoid headwinds from the jet stream which would slow down the plane considerably.

[@bertg.6056]

@@99.9percent9 No, I meant I had never been that high when I was in military jets.

[@ARFirstRaptor2011]

Another way to visualise is, folks just buy a globe and use a string or a thread and keep the thread staright from origin to destination, that is the shortest route. And evidently it will translate into a curved path in a 2d map.

[@dougb5202]

For the most part, planes fly in a straight line between desinations, it's only a curved path when viewed on a flat (distorted) map.

[@johnstuartsmith]

Greenland isn't bigger than South America?

[@hmu05366]

@@johnstuartsmithon the Mercator map all objects further from the equator are projected larger.. it’s just a quirk with the map. Go and look it up. You can get more accurate maps, but it’s quite challenging to project a map from a globe into 2D

[@eternal.260]

@@hmu05366azimuthal equidistant is perfect

[@Hans_Magnusson]

In all dimensions… That means that the aircraft will exit the atmosphere in the direction of the tangent… SoaceX next!!

[@zunkman1]

I have never heard this described SO badly.

[@guillermoperonaguerrero9080]

The video is completely useless.

[@MrDogonjon]

very flat earth.

[@jerryadams9238]

😢 Even the title is wrong. The airplane flies in a straight line towards it destination. Deviations are for; navigational aids, political reasons, the jet stream (for or against), very cold air that would cause the fuel to gel, and to stay in range of an emergency airport in case of engine or other failures. Take a globe and a string to convince yourself.

[@yixnorb5971]

A few other reasons: Staying over land as much as possible in case of an emergency landing. To go from New York to London, for example, fly north to Nova Scotia, then to Iceland and Greenland, then past the point of no return to Ireland and then to London. Another reason is to avoid unfriendly airspace.

[@ronniedudley2697]

THATS WHY THE EARTH IS FLAT

[@johnstuartsmith]

A straight path from New York to London looks pretty much like what you just described. If you have a globe, get a string or rubber band and check it out.

[@playsportfun3356]

All reasons to keep you from asking the right questions. Right?!

[@georgeblank2648]

Not true

[@bcumyns]

The airplanes ARE flying a straight line, being "the shortest distance between two points." Stretch a string on a globe between two points, and voila, there is your flight path. The line appears curved because it is drawn on a flat map, not a globe

[@christianpulido8360]

2d navigation and 2d maps.

[@dougb5202]

I was waiting for someone to point that out, it's only curved on a flat (distorted) map.

[@christianpulido8360]

@@dougb5202 The flat map is not distorted and 3D is derived from 2D. Spheres are derived from circles and not the other way around. Also flat earth maps don't take into effect the curvature of the earth.

[@christianpulido8360]

This is incorrect and flat maps don't take into effect the curve of the so-called globe. Spheres are derived from circles. 3D is derived from 2D and not the other way around. Looks like somebody failed geometry.

[@pete3445]

Perfectly explained

[@johnwirk]

but...but...but...flat earth....

[@bebektoxic2136]

Noooo earth is round!

[@frimmbits]

Show me the curve and I will believe you

[@blablablaclaclacla9895]

😂😂😂

[@adamkhriss891]

😂😂😂

[@auk7150]

😮

[@gbolahanfadeyi2886]

Very interesting… the more I listen the more I get confused. Since my school days I have always been confused about this very topic..Is it round or flat… Even when traveling in a plane I love sitting by the windows just to figure certain things out geographically/ physics. Maybe one of this days I will get the understanding.

[@ysbryda]

🔥 ❤️ *Globe*

[@Bruce.-Wayne]

If you were traveling in the space shuttle at 200,000 feet, you'd realize why the earth is not Flat

[@samuelvelez4985]

Flat as a pancake! But the paid trolls have a job to do (shame you for believing it’s flat)

[@michaelharris601]

If you look at flat earth map it will all makes sense. Trust your sense of reasoning and logic and forgot what you been taught then hopefully you are no longer confused.

[@gbolahanfadeyi2886]

@TruthSeeker8717 very convincing. Now I believe it’s flat. Thanks for the info.

[@mustbeatninjagaiden]

Now do why planes never travel over the Antarctic.

[@theCurtis1982]

Can I answer that question 🙋🏼‍♂️ please 🙏 Because it is flat! And for a same reason one an imaginary tour around the coast of Antarctica is like a 6 times longer of the same tape of equatorial tour , which in itself must be the longest distance in a circle 😏 but they never talk about it…

[@EdOeuna]

Can I also answer that question? Because planes don’t need to. There are no two Southern Hemispheres city pairs that will sustain a regular flight that involves flying across the South Pole. There is a fund raising effort to fund a charter flight between Perth, and Buenos Aires, but no flat earth sufferers are giving to the fund to prove the globe with the flight. I wonder why. Also you need to take into account the distance from any useful alternate airports during such a flight. Basically there aren’t any, and this affects which planes can fly the route.

[@guyfournier]

@@theCurtis1982 lol! Somebody told you it takes 6 times longer to go around Antarctica then the equator and you believed him!? That’s pathetic gullibility.

[@derp8575]

​@@EdOeuna What good will that flight be to the flat earth movement unless the plane is flown at low altitude and there's many verified flat earthers on-board? Where might I find the crowdfunding page?

[@GururajBN]

Good question! Probably afraid of crashing in the middle of nowhere in an icy desert.

[@stephenkosciesza2706]

In your example, from Brazil to the Congo, the Great Circle route would almost be what you've illustrated as a straight line route. That trip almost follows the Equator. The Equator is the ONLY circle of latitude that IS a Great Circle.

[@geenath53]

100% right. The Brazil to the Congo is not shown or explained correctly in the video! Besies the flat map, the globe should have been shown too! (to make a real comparison).

[@repent.sinner]

Because the earth is flat and stationary, a plane does not constantly dip and it flies to the destination because the earth does not move

[@jack_3.5mm]

​@@repent.sinner Your brain is flat and stationary, wrapped in a tin foil

[@LMike2004]

You forgot to include that, until very recently, the FAA required that planes were always within a safe distance from land in case of emergencies. It is only because of recent super reliability of planes that paths can be more direct.

[@AlexFoxthrot]

ETOPS was actually introduced in the 80's

[@LMike2004]

@@AlexFoxthrot I heard that the Airbus 380(?) caused another extension to be allowed. Thanks for the facts and updates.

[@AlexFoxthrot]

@@LMike2004 Not aware of that, but I don't think so. Not saying you are wrong, juts news to me. It's a quad jet so even more curious.

[@stonew1927]

I already understood the concept. Yet it still seemed so odd when recently on a flight from Montreal to Casablanca, Morroco, as I followed the flight path on the screen in front of me, to see us flying northeast past Nova Scotia! Logically, we should have been flying southeast past Massachusetts on our way toward the northern coast of Africa, which lies much further south than Montreal.

[@99.9percent9]

1892 Gleason map! Eric Dubay 200...

[@stonew1927]

@@99.9percent9 Oh my gawd fools abound!! 😂😂🤣🤣🤣

[@99.9percent9]

@@stonew1927 Care to share why you have called me a fool in detail please.

[@stonew1927]

@@99.9percent9 Honestly, I didn't have a clue what you were referencing in your comment, so I researched it. At first I thought the 1892 Gleason map was extremely helpful in understanding the trajectory that planes take across the globe that makes them look like they are arcing instead of a straight line. So I wanted to thank you for that. But then I read that it is called the "flat Earth map" which I find ridiculous. Same with your other reference of Eric Dubay 200. One has to be a real fool to believe in such nonsense. But maybe I completely misunderstood your intention and you don't believe in the Earth being flat. And if that is the case, I offer my sincerest apologies ....

[@99.9percent9]

@@stonew1927 So to clarify the flight route made sense from Montreal to Casablanca when looking at the Gleason map. Soon after looking into it in more detail realising it is a flat earth map was dismissed? The earth is a flat realm which has then been distorted and wrapped around a ball - It's a Global Deception! Most flat earthers looked to disprove the flat earth and couldn't.

[@DimentionalDan]

Show those same flight paths on the azimuthal equidistant map ( United Nation's map or the FE map) and those flat paths become straight lines and make sense ... no explanation necessary

[@EdOeuna]

Not in the Southern Hemisphere they don’t, which is such an easy way to debunk the stupidity of flat earth.

[@levelwithz3779]

*Exactly! Love your channel btw*

[@lucforand8527]

A straight line on a sphere is a great circle!!! The equator and each curve of longitude are all great circles and straight lines.

[@lyingcat9022]

It has nothing to do with the airplane and everything to do with Cartography and the different types of “Map Projections”.

[@rncmv]

finally some common sense in this bucket of b-it

[@yunshottasim6a503]

Straight path = round earth Curved path = flat earth...

[@jamesspeirs7461]

convergence angle = 1/2 change in longitude x sin(mean latitude)

[@rockspyder3970]

The “straight” line is not really straight, it is only so on the distorted world map we are all accustomed to. The moment you look at the real straight line between two points on a globe, you understand the “great circle” concept perfectly.

[@MakeLoveNotHate9]

Put its closer to the curve line on a globe

[@manuelvalencia9407]

Another factor for this is politics. Some country's airspace will not always be open to every country. Perfect example is US airspace closed off to Russian airlines. Another reason is that countries charge for other country's airlines to use their airspace.

[@hb1338]

Incorrect. Nowhere on earth do civil aircraft pay to fly in any country's airspace - they pay only to land or take off.

[@KazimierzSurma]

There are two things to consider. A map does not conform to the surface of the Earth The Earth is a globe and a map is just a drawing of the contours on the flat surface. All the curvature has nothing to do with real flight. The curvature is only because a plane goes in three-dimensional space. On a globe, the shortest distance between two points is a part of a great circle. (the circle that has the same centre point as the globe itself) On a map, the shortest distance to draw is using a straight ruler. On a map, the shortest distance is a straight line. This line has a characteristic that the angles between this line and the line of meridians are always the same. And this line, called a loxodrome on the surface of the Earth is a kind of a spiral. That is why is longer than the Great Circle (orthodrome) path. It means that if you fly due north or due south the trajectory of the flight on a map is always straight. The angle is 0 or 180 degrees. So the angle is always the same and at the same time, meridians are also great circles.

[@billbinnings4347]

To simplify this. go to a GLOBE of Earth....find two far-away points....now take a string and connect the two points. THAT is a great circle route, the shortest distance between two points on a SPHERE. The Problem is caused by taking the SPHERE and through mathematics "flattening" the globe into a conical projection or "Mercator" map which is flat and heavily distorted the closer you get to the poles. Using the GLOBE simplifies everything.

[@johnstuartsmith]

That is the perfect explanation, but the people who still need that explained are too militantly stoopid and scrupulously ignorant to allow themselves to believe it.

[@billbinnings4347]

@@johnstuartsmith True...some people think "asphalt" is hemmorhoids.

[@hb1338]

The Mercator projection is a cylindrical one, not a conical one.

[@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935]

Lamberts charts give ‘straight’ great circles with any drawn line.

[@victorsantiago886]

Most planes fly STRAIGHT, not curved.

[@AlexFoxthrot]

They do fly straight, it's the point of the video.

[@cardinalRG]

@victorsantiago886 --Yes, and "straight" in aeronautical terminology means no deviation left or right (the lateral plane). A straight flightpath can be a climb, descent or level flight, the last of which curves in the vertical plane, in proportion to the Earth's own curvature.

[@GA3S_]

It's crazy everybody keep saying earth not flat but when you fly on a plane and have a bottle of water the only time the water is not "level" is at take-off when you get to 30Thou ft. the water levels back out. 🤔 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@uap24]

The water stays level as long as the plane maintains a pitch and roll angle near zero degrees.

[@johnstuartsmith]

@@uap24 And as long as acceleration and deceleration stay close to zero. But... the water "level" only looks "level" because "up" and "down" keep looking the same to you. A "level" spinning gyroscope at take-off on a flight halfway round ( notice people don't say "across the world...) will be upside down when it lands. Otherwise inertial navigation platforms wouldn't have ever worked..

[@allthingsbing1295]

@@johnstuartsmithyou can’t seriously think that a gyroscope would be upside down upon landing a flight “around” the world. That is the silliest thing I have heard. I have talked to many pilots all understand that the earth is an extended plain that does not move.

[@johnstuartsmith]

@@allthingsbing1295 If you fly from Cailifornia to Madagascar, your gyroscope won't really rotate 180 degrees, but you will have because you've traveled to the other side of a ball and your perception of "Up" and "Down" are relative to the center of that ball. "Up" and "Down" aren't what you think.

[@allthingsbing1295]

@@johnstuartsmith As long as you are flying straight and level your gyroscope won’t budge.. it will be exactly the same the entire flight.thereby proving the globe model false.

[@rapidcars1]

because of the circumference of the Earth, a straight line between New York and London is a curved line

[@christopherwilliams3911]

Because the “curved” line is actually a straight path in reality.

[@shalvi43]

Well Explained: It’s so interesting to know the reason !

[@EIWPmedia]

These type of videos make me believe flat earth more and more

[@alexandrepotvin747]

grab a globe earth and try to find the shortest path from point A to point B and compare it to the 'curved' path it shows on a flat map, you will find that the shortest path corresponds with the 'curved' path on the flat map... the flat map is distorted to make it fit on a 2D rectangle

[@MakeLoveNotHate9]

​@@alexandrepotvin747i did its the straight line

[@dfirth224]

I remember back in the late 50s or 60s SAS Scandinavian Airlines was the first to fly over the Arctic on routes from Scandinavia to the US and Canada. They had to invent new navigation techniques because the traditional method using magnetic compass doesn't work near the North Pole.

[@michael.forkert]

What time is it when you are standing exactly on the North Pole, or on the South Pole?

[@alanjm1234]

​@@michael.forkertif it's summer it's daytime, if it's winter it's night time.

[@michael.forkert]

@@alanjm1234 Given that at the south pole or north pole there is no time zone, because all meridians converge to only one point exactly at the north pole or south pole, the question is the following: If in London it is 5 o’clock pm, what time exactly would it be at the North Pole, or South Pole, in relation to London?

[@Tom-zs6bb]

@@michael.forkert The geographic, or the magnetic poles?

[@michael.forkert]

@@Tom-zs6bb Where all longitudes converge.

[@johnstuartsmith]

The airplane's path is fairly straight. There's a lot of distortion involved in producing a flat map to represent areas on a ball-shaped Earth. The distortion that makes a straight line look curved also makes Greenland seem bigger than the whole continent of South America.

[@rolandoperez1544]

Bottom Line Earth Is Flat Not Curved

[@robb3743]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂@@rolandoperez1544

[@repent.sinner]

@@rolandoperez1544 facts

[@r3sid3nt3vil8]

"18 flat earthers disliked this"

[@derp8575]

Good boy! Stay with the herd. No one will call you a conspiracy theorist. Much safer that way. Totally not the cowardly approach. 😂

[@hb1338]

@@derp8575 This is not about courage, it is about fact. We know BY DIRECT OBSERVATION that the earth is round, and by measurement that it is very nearly spherical.

[@derp8575]

@@hb1338 What direct observation? We can't even get photos of earth from "space".

[@ImperrfectStranger]

@@derp8575 Just because you claim spacecraft are fake, it doesn't mean our photos are not real. There were complete colour photographs of the earth long before computer graphics were invented. By the way, do your research. Even flat earthers have taken photographs of the ISS. It appears in the sky where it is predicted to appear, not randomly floating around like a balloon.

[@somapersona]

​@@derp8575 go find a pilot who is a flat earther 🤣

[@MarcelaR-dh1ok]

....a great circle is the shortest distance between two points on the globe

[@fakerating]

I don't understand why the lower mileage "polar route" only applies to East-West flights. So why, if going on a North-South flight, for example from Stockholm to Cape Town, is it shorter NOT to fly on any curve, but rather to fly straight south? I don't get it. Isn't the planet curved for all flights?

[@anthonyfaye3344]

Get a globe and pull a string tight between Stockholm and Cape Town. There's your shortest route.

[@bacomiric1681]

Earth is Flat. Only then it makes sense.

[@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935]

North-South is always on a *great circle,* the only East-West *great circle* is the equator. Consider flying *six hundred nautical miles* south of the North Pole. You are at 80 degrees north (10 degrees of 60 minutes each from the north pole, a north-south minute is a nautical mile). Going up over the pole to the opposite side of the world is 600 + 600 or 1,200 miles along the *great circle.* Flying east all the way to reach the same place is 180 degrees (half way around the globe) times 60 minutes times _the cos of 80 degrees_ (to allow for the smaller parallels away from the equator) giving a distance of 1,875 miles going around on the *Little Circle.* The little circle is longer. The globe is drawn like orange segments lined up north-south (meridians of longitude) but drawn like slices of tinned pineapple running west-east (parallels of latitude). The pineapple slices get smaller nearing the poles. Every orange segment is on a great circle but the only pineapple slice that is a great circle is at the equator.

[@fakerating]

Nicely explained! But i'm more confused and less convinced than ever. @@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935

[@WhotheHellknowsAnyway]

Everything makes more sense when you accept that the earth is flat

[@alanjm1234]

It's really not because the circumference is greater at the equator. Its because a flat map is a huge distortion of the globe. A straight line on the map is actually not a straight line on the globe. The great circle route is actually the "straightest" line between two points, around a sphere.

[@mb4lunch]

Straight as an arrow on flat as a pancake Earth.

[@michaelharris601]

Exactly....

[@donaldclifford5763]

Tell that to Galileo and Copernicus. Flat earther is a term of derision.

[@DD-ld1xq]

Because THE EARTH IS FLAT (not just 2D maps).

[@AlexFoxthrot]

No it's not

[@DD-ld1xq]

@@AlexFoxthrot it actually is, space cadet

[@AlexFoxthrot]

@@DD-ld1xq A sunset proves you wrong. Try again and maybe start from the basics. I suggest elevation angles.

[@donaldclifford5763]

Tell that to Galileo and Copernicus. Flat earther is a term of derision.

[@DD-ld1xq]

​@@donaldclifford5763appeals to authority do not constitute science.

[@nitsujneal]

They actually DO fly in a straight line according to the Gleason’s FLAT Earth map

[@alexf962]

Too bad that map is used by no one.

[@viralexotics8031]

@@alexf962 look at a flight from India to us on a map you’ll see a curve then take that flight to a flat map it’s just straight idk does your senses tell you we’re spinning too

[@uap24]

@@viralexotics8031 Look at a flight from Santiago to Auckland. It follows a similar curve, only this time the curve is in the opposite direction (curves towards the South instead of North), almost entirely over the Pacific ocean, and the flight takes almost 10 hours.

[@derp8575]

​@@alexf962 Pilots use it and don't even realize it. Many emergency landings make zero sense on a ball earth, but perfect sense on flat earth.

[@alexf962]

@@viralexotics8031 Of course you see a curve on a flat projection of a globe. This was really painful to read. Your ignorance is not a valid argument. And why the hell would you feel the spin of something that takes 24 hours to complete one revolution? Again, really painful.

[@Laowu1898]

Geodesic is the shortest path on any curved surface

[@hb1338]

And a segment of a great circle is indeed a geodesic.

[@mikkodoria4778]

Flat is earth they say

[@scalfer]

Because it's the shortest, fastest, cheapest route on a flat earth map.

[@AlexFoxthrot]

No, it's not. It's the shortest on a Globe. Try again, kid.

[@ElectroMusicLab]

Thank you 🙏❤️‍🔥

[@pilotanupam5881]

Nice information Man .

[@Deadman3913]

I am often amused by flat Earther’s logic “If the Earth is round, then why don’t pilots constantly adjust the pitch angle in flight so they don’t fly off into space?” To which I ask “If the Earth is flat, then why don’t they constantly adjust their course so they don’t slam into that Antarctica wall you say is around the edge?” Can never seem to get an answer after that. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@samuelvelez4985]

Because they never fly anywhere near it. There are strict flight routes that pilots can not deviate from unless there’s an emergency.

[@TonyP9279]

Actually the pilots DO have to constantly adjust their instruments because the Earth is round. Older gyroscopic instruments hold their orientation relative to space, not the ground, so after a while, they wander as the plane "pitches" over the horizon and cause the autopilot to pitch up. In modern aircraft, the flight management system does all of the corrections for you but pilots still cross-check with other instruments.

[@DD-ld1xq]

@@TonyP9279 bullshit

[@bartholomewshirima7060]

😂😂.no need to adjust pitch angle coz of force of gravity acting on the plane during cruising speed.the plane maintains same altitude.

[@joey-cn6mt]

That left me with more questions than ancers

[@maureencora1]

Alaska is Closer to Japan Than Hawaii .

[@johnjunior22]

Makes sense on the flat map.

[@AlexFoxthrot]

Nice spelling, Says a lot. It's a Globe.

[@johnjunior22]

@@AlexFoxthrot when English is just a language . Don’t you make mistake in a second language that you can speak or write?

[@AlexFoxthrot]

@@johnjunior22 Who cares, it's not flat. Try again

[@johnjunior22]

@@AlexFoxthrot why are you angry? You don’t believe in your globe thing.

[@AlexFoxthrot]

@@johnjunior22 Youre right. I know, I don't believe. I have facts, you don't.

[@williamslocum9161]

The earth is round. Your head and map are flat. end story

[@eraser2ktube]

@@williamslocum9161 Are you sure?

[@geenath53]

In spite of all the explanation, the route shown Brazil to Congo is not shown or explained correctly! Straight line route is along the Equator and the "Circular Route" over Algeria . "Cicrular Route" appears that way only on the flat map. On a Globe it is in fact "straight line relative to the Ground" and is much shorter than Equator Route! If you take a Globe and measure the Circular Route will be marginally shorter in this case! From Finland there are Polar Route to Asia which is much faster than the route from London over Equator. For a comparison Helsinki to Delhi is about 6 hours 30 min while Bombay to Brussels is almost 9 hours, even though on a flat map the distances may see equal !

[@malahammer]

Any flat earthers here?

[@mikzgumbs]

cellphone is not allowed in the mental hospital

[@mikzgumbs]

cellphones are not allowed in mental hospital..

[@robertyancy4216]

If their "A" cups or smaller, than yes they may be flat earthers, 😅😂

[@eraser2ktube]

@@malahammer Hell yeah…

[@vinitkshirsagar4304]

Excellent information 👍

[@Ramdasmaharaj]

Earth is flat

[@rapinncapin123]

😂

[@nickbourne5803]

No, it isn't.

[@peterpaul5820]

Thats why all These flat earthers pop up all around the world

[@donaldclifford5763]

@@peterpaul5820 Flat earther is a term of derision.

[@sleepingwarrior4618]

They don't. We checked.

[@hmu05366]

Oh it’s you lol

[@viralexotics8031]

Take that flight to a flat map all they did was go straight does your senses tell you we’re going down when we fly to Australia no does your senses think we’re spinning in space pretty crazy we see the same constellation every night if we’re constantly moving thru space we would have pass the Big Dipper years ago but no see it every night

[@uap24]

A direct flight from Santiago to Auckland exists. It travels over the pacific ocean, and the flight path curves in the opposite manner (towards the south pole instead of the North). This flight still exists, and still operates normally. I wonder how this would be possible on a flat earth map.

[@derp8575]

​@@uap24 Winds and increased flight speeds. You can find the MPH and KPH flown once a flight has landed. Sometimes they are flying over 700mph. There you go, ree ree.

[@uap24]

@@derp8575 Well then, how is it that Santiago-Auckland and London-New York take approximately the same time despite the difference in distance being huge on a flat map?

[@derp8575]

@@uap24 7 hours 26 minutes is not close to 12 hours, ree ree.

[@uap24]

@Derp The time and distance difference does not make sense. For that distance difference, the time is supposed to be more than 15 hours, considering Santiago and Auckland are more than twice as far apart compared to London and New York on a flat map.

[@michaelstrauss6587]

Flight paths are generally straight lines. There are many ways to prove this. Investigate.

[@bacomiric1681]

If you look at the same route on Flat Earth map, you will see it's straight line.

[@alexf962]

It's straight on the Globe. Use your brain. It's not flat

[@eraser2ktube]

@@alexf962 How can it be straight on a globe? Think about it….

[@alexf962]

@@eraser2ktube Straight means not turning. Great circles are straight Lines If viewed from above. If this Is you best argument, I would give up already, you don't stand a chance.

[@eraser2ktube]

@@alexf962 Man, you have serious problems. We are not living in 2D dimension. And guess what. Do you know what a mechanical gyroscope is? Board the plane, make some measurements first and we can talk about this topic again.

[@alexf962]

@@eraser2ktube You think you can lecture me about airplanes? Hilarious. I am type rated on the Embraer 175. You don't know what you are talking about, you go by hear-say. This Is going to be really bad for you. If you want to go on and get disintegrated, be my guest.

[@america1st721]

nobody has ever thought planes fly on a curved path.

[@Globeisahoaxx]

Just open Gleason flat earth map and see how navigation works

[@AlexFoxthrot]

Nobody uses that map, troll

[@shiftfocus1]

“Why the straight paths flown by aircraft appear curved on a map” I fixed your headline.

[@planetruth1013]

The earth is flat that's why

[@EdOeuna]

Aviation proves the globe.

[@levelwithz3779]

@@EdOeuna I mean no offense by this, but your understanding of the concept isnt accurate. What you have been led to believe about what FE'ers believe is not at all accurate. I assure you, you will be suprised what you find. KZbin only shows you deceptive "debunked" videos if you search for FE but check out the channel DITRH & Eric Dubays channel. 👍🏻

[@EdOeuna]

@Lesco Brandino 🛡 - DITRH and Dubay are the cult leaders of the flat earth conspiracy. I’ve seen a few of their videos and they’re basically saying “NASA lies” and “I don’t understand so it can’t be true”. In one pair of unrelated videoe both David Weiss and Mark Sargent make the same FE evidence claim for aeroplanes being plotted on flight tracker apps - the claim supports the globe, but their confusion makes them believe it supports the flat earth. When you have this level of stupidity or misunderstanding then every other claim is void. The videos / books regarding “16 flight diversions provide the flat earth” also prove the globe but the imagineers of this rubbish just don’t know it. Basically, there is no evidence for the flat earth. That’s why it’s a joke.

[@alexf962]

@@levelwithz3779 We have seen videos from both channels, I mea from both charlatans, we did not buy it, why? Oh yeah, because we are not ignorant nor gullible enough to fall for something so stupid.

[@levelwithz3779]

@@alexf962 *Your pride blinds you, my friend. I understand, I used to think that same way and say the same things to FE'ers. I stroked my ego thinking I was so much smarter than FE'ers, and I couldn't understand how they could believe something so rediculous... But I kept researching and hearing their evidence and started doing my own tests and hearing both sides and it became clear that Globe believers misunderstand/misrepresent what FE believers say and believe. [Some intentionally, some unintentionally].* *Everything I thought that I knew about the subject was wrong. I thought all of the science supported a Globe, but the truth is science supports a geocentric plane. Observable, Testable, Repeatable. All the Globe has is Psuedoscience which cannot be substantiated or demonstrated.*

[@dugmun]

Thank you for the Video!

[@zzzzz50505]

Earth is FLAT Look ----> 🗺

[@jrnumex9286]

same for baseball. a curve ball has a shorter distane to the plate. no it doesn't just made that up

[@viktorvasilik5477]

It is flat.

[@AlexFoxthrot]

No, It is not. Nice try tho.

[@viktorvasilik5477]

Looks flat and stationary to me... Haven't seen any evidence to show otherwise

[@AlexFoxthrot]

@@viktorvasilik5477 It takes a sunset and a very basic understanding of geometry to prove you wrong. Is that out of your reach?

[@viktorvasilik5477]

@@AlexFoxthrot a sunset? Hmmm how exactly does a sunset prove waterball?

[@AlexFoxthrot]

@@viktorvasilik5477 Like I said, it should be Easy. If the Sun was small and local it would have to appear to change angular size and apparent Speed throughout the day like the laws of perspective Say It should. Neither of those things happen so strike 1. Then It would never reach the horizon because of basic geometry, but It does, everyday, everywhere. Need some more help thinking for yourself?

[@KPL400]

if wind, weather, turbulence etc was not a factor most commercial aircraft would fly the 'great circle route'.. which is the shortest distance between any 2 points on the surface of a sphere....

[@yahwehisdead]

Because the earth is flat and they dont do that

[@donaldclifford5763]

Tell that to Galileo and Copernicus. Flat earther is a term of derision.

[@RasikRajguru]

Than you good video. Keep them coming. Does the rotation of the earth at around 1,037 odd mph under the flying aircraft have any effect. The way it does for firing long very range sniper bullets, where the earth's rotation has to be taken into consideration.? Also the does the altitude of the plane from the ground make a difference? Aside from less air resistance, temperature, Would a higher altitude flight mean longer distance travelled to destination?

[@repent.sinner]

Do you hear yourself? Open your eyes and use your brain the earth does not move. That's why plane flies from one destination to the other in a straight path on this flat stationary earth. Simple.

[@normanhansen730]

Do planes have any issues about landing on any North- south air strips without crashing?

[@kent119]

Flat Earthers left the comments section😂

[@derp8575]

We're here, ree ree. It's okay. You go ahead and cling to your ball. No one will call you a conspiracy theorist. It's so easy to go with the herd in order to avoid being ostracized, mocked and ridiculed.

[@jorgemanso521]

We are right here...keeping quiet...shuuu.....

[@kent119]

@TruthSeeker8717 how ironic to be a truth seeker!😂🤣

[@kent119]

In the AGE OF Technologies and yet people didn't search factual truths and evidences.

[@donaldclifford5763]

@@derp8575 Tell that to Galileo and Copernicus. Flat earther is a term of derision.

[@kennethhoffman8845]

The simple answer is that the route is not curved at all. It's straight line that when projected on a flat map becomes curved because of the curvature of the earth

[@ronniedudley2697]

EARTH IS A FLAT PLANE AND NOT A GLBE🫡😎😎😎

[@AlexFoxthrot]

Get help

[@donaldclifford5763]

Tell that to Galileo and Copernicus. Flat earther is a term of derision.

[@MENSA.lady2]

It's called the great circle route and is the shortest route.

[@derp8575]

Earth is flat. Let go of your pride. We all believed it was a globe at one point. Look, we understand that if you let go and admit it's flat, you'll have to admit there's a God, which means you can no longer justify your sin. For the record I am hardly a saint. Not even close.

[@saabtech3510]

Maybe you can help me with this. No other flat-earther will answer me. If the earth is flat, and Antarctica is a pizza pie crust ("wall") rather than an island which can be circumnavigated in the Southern Ocean......then the equator must be many less miles long than the Southern Ocean, and the area surrounding the North Pole must be even shorter still, (than the Southern Ocean); by a massive amount. Are you with me? Yet this is not born out by ships traveling the Southern Ocean. The distance to sail along the Southern Ocean would be massive. Put another way, look at an oval race track for runners. If everyone had to stay in lane, all the way around, who would have to run much further? The inside track or the outside track? ( A flat circular earth, the Antarctic would be the furthest outside track.)

[@iloveschicken6527]

Bingo! Amen!

[@derp8575]

"pizza pie crust ("wall")" Why not just say wall, rather than the passive-aggressive, slanderous pizza pie crust analogy, followed by wall in parenthesis and quotations? Much faster and effective to simply refer to the wall as a wall. Flat earthers have been around long enough to know when a question is asked in bad faith. It doesn't matter what you believe. The Biblical God exists and the earth is stationary and flat whether you like it or not. @@saabtech3510

[@DBR00]

I flew from Las Vegas (LAS) to North Las Vegas (VGT). This was my route: LAS->LAX->SEA->MSP->SAN->EWR->SIN->SYD->MNL->DFW->DTW->VGT. Only took me 4 days, and 6 minutes. Not a bad route to go 17 miles.

[@jimsummers487]

The Bible is flat so that’s enuf for me

[@roachitane]

🙏🏻✝️

[@lleytondunsmore6085]

the bible never states whether the earth is flat or spherical. This is not a sound argument. God didn’t give us the Bible as a book to explain the theory of every single thing in existence. it doesn’t explain the birth and death of stars. it doesn’t explain photosynthesis. it doesn’t explain the shape of the globe. people like to hear the word “firmament” and run away with it as a gotcha. Gen 1:8 points us to a clearer understanding of what it means. the word “raqia” is used to mean heaven which a translation of the word “shamayim.” this word does not imply any solidity or reference to a dome. by looking at it in context, it more likely means expanse or what we would commonly refer to as sky or heavens. It should also be clear that God have us tools and made a discoverable world for us so that we can learn about His creation. He gave us math and physics and biology and geology and astronomy etc. to appreciate creation. Using math we can determine the world is not a flat surface. the same math that tells me the world is spherical is the same math that tells me my plane will stay up in the air (i’m a pilot btw). It’s important not to be blinded by the use of a word such as firmament to the point that we no longer utilize the amazing tools God gave us to discover his creation. The math and physics checks out. the world is a sphere.

[@aaronw1597]

Sombody forgot to read Isaiah 40:22 and Job 26:7. But funny comment through there is alot of bible thumbing people that act like that

[@MakeLoveNotHate9]

​@@lleytondunsmore6085god give us math and physics? Damn. What kind of bible do you read?

[@MakeLoveNotHate9]

​@@lleytondunsmore6085in the bible is explained that the world is flat

[@venugopalgopinath7417]

Vèry informative thanks à ĺot sir.

[@timsmith7351]

Yep, flat earth

[@AlexFoxthrot]

You wish. Keep crying.

[@MrDogonjon]

the earth is round. flat earthers denial.

[@peter9962]

Haha, the first time I flew to China from Vancouver, we headed north, so I asked the flight attendant if I was on the right flight 😊

[@joshdavis2592]

At 1:49 the illustration shows the planes flying with wings perpendicular to the surface of earth? Why?

[@abuhaadiyah9403]

Yeah I’m not creeped out all by the accuracy of that flight paths take off and landing point…..

[@3072to4170]

Script sounds like it was written by a flat-earther trying not to sound like a flat-earther.

[@DEJEEY_CK]

😂😂😂

[@DEJEEY_CK]

The moment he said the earth is not flat, I stopped to read comment

[@michaellan78]

I thought it is because pilots often a bit drunk after a wild party with hot flight attendants 😂😂😂

[@eraser2ktube]

@@michaellan78 With P. Diddy.

[@SharonShaw816]

🇿🇦 Because of weather conditions and the triangle. I've heard that airplanes can disappear in the triangle.

[@captainkim7738]

Rhumb Line is generally further than Great Circle. You’re welcome

[@lyingcat9022]

Correct:)

[@abdullahyener3233]

Coriolis kuvveti dikkate alınmaz mı?

[@Callibree]

I understand what you are saying. Your education (thus your explanation) about reality is unbelievable. There is no earth curvature. The curvature is not visible. The curvature is not measurable. It can be demonstrated repeatedly there is no curvature with optics bringing distant objects back into perspective that otherwise the line of sight should be blocked. If the earth were a ball, and you were flying at altitude, the horizon would be below you. You'd have to bend your neck and look down. On a flat plane the horizon is always right in front no matter the altitude. On a ball the higher in altitude then you are leaving earth behind you. On a flat plane one doesn't move away leaving the earth behind you. The earth is beneath you no matter the altitude you at above the earth. The horizon doesn't bend or arc. It's with a wide angle camera lens or sitting in an airliner passenger seat, that the window is aerodynamically designed, and viewing through it, there is a distortion of a bend or arc.

[@AlexFoxthrot]

The Horizon does drop with altitude and proves you wrong. The curve Is visible, you US the wrong numbers and deny the evidence. It takes a sunset to disintegrate your model.

[@Callibree]

@@AlexFoxthrot No, its an empirical observation that no matter the altitude, anywhere on earth, the horizon is right there in front of you. A 2d line (3d plane) is a distinct shape. A 2d circle (3d sphere) is a distinct shape. These two shapes aren't identical. 360 degrees around you the horizon is a straight line and from where you stand to the horizon is a 3d plane. No arc, no bend what so ever at the horizon. Okay. Water doesn't bend. Water doesn't conform to a convex surface. Water seeks to be level at rest. The earth’s surface is about 70% water. We can conclude the earth’s surface is flat. Its an empirical observation.

[@AlexFoxthrot]

@@Callibree you have no idea of what empirical means. Pretty much everything you wrote is wrong. Congrats.

[@Callibree]

@@AlexFoxthrot Here you go: The term “empirical” refers to knowledge or information acquired through observation, experience, or experiment, rather than through theory or pure logic. In the context of science and research, empirical data is collected through direct or indirect observation and measurement. Empirical methods involve using data to test hypotheses or to explore patterns, and they are foundational to the scientific method. This data can be qualitative or quantitative, and it is typically gathered through experiments, surveys, observations, or measurements. In philosophy, the term “empiricism” refers to the theory that all knowledge is derived from sense-experience. Empiricists argue that the human mind starts as a blank slate (tabula rasa) and is shaped by experiences. In a broader sense, “empirical” can also refer to something that is based on practical experience rather than theoretical constructs. For example, empirical knowledge in medicine involves knowledge derived from clinical practice and observation of patients. Do you have anymore ad hominem fallacies for me?

[@AlexFoxthrot]

@@Callibree "The Horizon is right there in front of you". Wow, very scientific Indeed. Say, how much do you think the horizon must drop on a sphere with a diameter of 12600km? The horizon does drop, not much, but It does, so this claim is already false and proves you wrong. The Horizon Is not at Eye level at an airplanes cruising altitude. Any more falsifiable claims from you my friend?

[@theknightswhosay]

The only problem with this is when you have a layover in a much colder place than your origin or destination in the winter.

[@andrewhanson5942]

C'mon you guys, a great circle IS a straight line! It doesn't look like that on a flat map, which has everything distorted to flatten it on to a piece of paper.

[@pavloskaisseris7587]

That's why it takes forever. I've been once on a long flight. I was clean shaven when I boarded the plane. By the time I got to the other end, I had a beard touching my belly 😂😂

[@jwrappuhn71]

Excellent.

[@sanswithoutsans]

2023 and we got people believing crystals can heal you over traditional medicine and the world is a minecraft template.

[@nycraw]

The balloon will never move it posición when goin up and down the sky.

[@davidaugustofc2574]

If it's anchored to the ground it won't

[@michaelscience2481]

As an Electrical Engineer, I learned a new concept today. Keep it up

[@The_Legend_ZaToIcHi]

It's the same Idea of why ships do not go in a straight course ... simply, because of shallow waters, and other risks under surface.

[@chickerbeball]

So many different answers. Everyone is so smart

[@johnstuartsmith]

Maps are flat. The Earth is a roundish ball.

[@Justman34_dislike]

It's because it's a flat disk like earth... no kidding about it

[@christianege4989]

Unfortunatelly, the earth is not flat.

[@AlexFoxthrot]

Then you need help.

[@joeyager8479]

Looking at a globe it would all become obvious. Some oddities: The state closest to Africa is Maine. The old DEW (Distant Early Warning) line was set up during the cold war in northern Canada, because any Russian launched ICBMs would come over the North Pole - shortest distance.

[@Nehner]

Every guy can prove or disprove the REAL LENGTH OF SUCH A FLIGTH on the flat earth map. SYDNEY East Australia,coordinates 33° 51' 05.41 S" - E 151° 11' 55.86 E Santiago de Chile airport coordinates 33° 23′ 35″ S , 70° 47′ 9″ W Distance measurement From northpole to 33 51 South to Sydney = 90 + 33 + ,85 = 123,85 x 111,12= 13762 km From northpole to 33 35 South to Santiago De Chile = 90+ 33+ ,38 = 123,38 x 111,12 = 13.710 km Gamma Angle 140 degrees Distance between SDC SYD = 25815 km ======================================================= SYDNEY East Australia,coordinates 33° 51' 05.41 S" - E 151° 11' 55.86 E CAPETOWN 33 , 58 ' N und dem Längengrad 18,60420. From northpole to 33 51 South to Sydney = 90 + 33 + ,85 = 123,85 x 111,12= 13762 km From northpole to 33, 85 South to Capetown = 90 + 33+ ,84 = 123,85 x 111,12 = 13.762km Gamma Angle 132 degrees Distance between SDC SYD = 25.144 km. Every guy can prove or disprove the REAL LENGTH OF SUCH A FLIGTH on the flat earth map. Step 1 go get a flat earth map. My recommendation ist the hammond air age map from 1942. Good ist a diameter of flat earth from 50 cm or more Step 2 Google the coordinates latitude and longitude of the 2 airports - for example Sydney and Santiago de Chile Sydney East Australia coordinates 33° 51' 05.41 S - E 151° 11' 55.86 E Santiago de Chile airport coordinates 33° 23′ 35″ S , 70° 47′ 9″ W Step 3 Google the distance from northpole to Destination 1 = here Sydney And from Northpole to destination 2 = here Santiago de Chile. multiply the latitude degrees from Zero to your destination with 111,12 (thats the distance between 2 neighboured latitude lines). Is your destination within the equator the number will be less then 90 degrees Is your destination over the equator the number will be higher then 90 degrees From northpole to 33 51 South to Sydney = 90 + 33 + ,85 = 123,85 x 111,12= 13762 km From northpole to 33 35 South to Santiago De Chile = 90+ 33+ ,38 = 123,38 x 111,12 = 13.710 km Step 4 Go to the map and put a line from Sydney to Northpole and from Santiago de Chile to northpole. Then measure the Gamma Angle between the line northpole-SYD and the line between northpole-SDC. In our case it is 140 degrees. STEP 5 THEN look for a Triangel calculator in the internet. Where you can put in the 2 length northpole to Destination 1 line and 2 line And the gamma Angle 140 degree in our case. Press Enter or calculate and you will get the distance between SYD and SDC = 25.815 km

[@alexf962]

Explain the direct flights.

[@nosherz]

If a plane flies in the opposite direction to earth rotation, can it then cover more land miles for a set unit of time - or not. And if not, why not ?

[@GuardianSoulkeeper]

Not. Because momentum.

[@nosherz]

@@GuardianSoulkeeper Expand

[@WhotheHellknowsAnyway]

because earth is a stationary flat disc

[@cardinalRG]

@nosherz --Research conservation of momentum. Another way to consider the scenario is that an aircraft performs strictly to the atmosphere, and the atmosphere rotates along with the Earth itself.

[@nosherz]

@@cardinalRG If that’s correct, the planes engine/s would need to burn more fuel & work much harder to cover a given distance, flying against rotation versus flying with rotation- yes ?