Why American Missile Systems Can't Be Beaten ft. Habitual Linecrosser | Unsubscribe Podcast Clips

[@thespadeplays1]

"We got demonetized" "Was it the slurs or government secrets?" -The Fat Electrician 8:55

[@jffry890]

"I have no idea what went through someone's mind when-" "5.56"

[@seatedliberty]

In 1776, we crossed an icy river to kill the enemy- in their sleep- on Christmas. From 1940 to 1945, the US military went from less than 500,000 personnel to over 12 million, built 10 battleships, 100,000 armored vehicles, 310,000 aircraft, and over 40 billion rounds of small arms ammunition. In 1962, we had the fastest, highest flying aircraft in the world and it still holds the speed record to this day. In the early 1990s, we made bombs out of artillery barrels that could punch through 160 feet of earth. Our citizens own more rifles than most countries. There is a reason the United States is the reigning world champion of the FAFO league.

[@leojamesclune1730]

Let's be honest, the hunters alone for some states rival the numbers of foreign militaries, let alone all US hunters or firearm owners as a whole.

[@thecommenter9678]

And now it's all run by men pretending their women, and old dudes who want to "understand white rage" What makes the American military great is the people, the attitude, not the toys (Though god damn they are awesome toys!) Sadly it's all falling to shit around our years, the higher ups are mostly nuts, they are slowly filtering in woke kids and out with hardened vets. We better fix this ASAP. Watch this comment get deleted in 3, 2, 1...

[@nerofl89]

@@leojamesclune1730 In 2020 there were over 15 million registered hunters across the US, though the number is declining.

[@leojamesclune1730]

@nerofl89 And to compare numbers, the US at WW2 peak numbers had 12 million, according to Nic

[@ericmightywombatprince]

You don't need another plane to scout for the missile you can use instead a drone

[@Aminuts2009]

As a former sailor that quick sink scares the crap out of me. No chance for the crew at all. They all go down with the ship. 500-600 sailors. Just gone.

[@jordaneimer2873]

yeah the only way to survive is get the alarm for a missile incoming and just assume its quick sink and jump out of the boat. But looking at the size of the splash and the lack of large boat. Its seeming like you just might not have the time....

[@ccrraazzyyman]

@@jordaneimer2873 Jumping out wouldn't work either. The bomb looks like doesn't hit the boat but the water next to it, then detonates under the keel and rips the boat in half. If you were in the water when that happened, you'd be very dead too if it could do that to the spine of a boat.

[@jdlr3777]

If it makes you feel any better, considering the tech rip offs China and Russia have achieved over the years, they'll have a quick sink like munition right around 50 years from now. Assuming there's still a China or Russia left to steal our shit.

[@SlackerU]

That was a defenseless ship. When it hits your ship it will be in many smaller pieces if defenses are working. We trained to fill a peppering of holes in the side of the ship unlike the 40ft hole in the Cole.

[@matthewsmith472]

​@@ccrraazzyyman2 stage bunker buster. It goes all the way through a ship. First explosion drives the second stage Under the Chinese Aircraft Carrier.

[@btbarr16]

The missle truck is a real thing. That's why the airforce was all about the F-15EX. "Wait how many missiles can you fit on that thing? Oh yeah, i need me some of that. Sorry F-22 you'll probably never get a chance to fire a missile in anger. You just became a glorified targeting system." On a side note, i kinda hope the missiles come off the F-15 rails without warning where the pilot is like, "Ooooh, someone is having fun."

[@johnbeauvais3159]

Just bored and cruising along and then a Fox 3 comes off the rail and the pilot is like "boy I hope that wasn't a malfunction"

[@zakobrien8764]

lol, you read my mind.

[@zaxwashere]

​@@zakobrien8764"someone's having a bad day, but not me"

[@randomlyentertaining8287]

Used to be the B-1R's goal.

[@tearstoneactual9773]

Unhealthcare delivery via airmail.

[@zakobrien8764]

Former P-3 Orion EWO here and I can speak to an aspect of just how powerful the AEGIS AN/SPY-1 radar is. When we would do flyby's on Arleigh Burke Destroyers at sea, we'd radio ahead and ask them to turn their radar down to "low power" so we wouldn't get hot pocket'd in the fuselage of our aircraft flying by. Yes, you read that right.

[@TheRyujinLP]

This guy is not kidding. If an Arleigh Burke focuses all of it's radars energy on a single aircraft, it can delete said aircraft from the sky. It's basically a giant maser (a laser that uses microwaves, which for those that aren't autistic enough are actually a form of light) at that point.

[@ceberskie119]

Can confirm the designere didn't think much about how powerful these radars are vs how dumb we are...so there are quite a few systems that can only be accessed for maintenance by walking right in front of these things. No one thought a damn thing of it until people started complaining about their loss of sense of taste and all of the digital watches breaking. Needless to say there are alot of Aegis RADAR techs with very high disability. Later models of destroyers fixed this by raising the aft arrays (look at a arleigh burke ddg the aegis radars are the big octagons on the front) to 15 feet above thr deck as opposed to like 3 feet.

[@C420sailor]

Friend was an FC, operated the SPY-1. Rumors of birds flying past the array and falling out of the sky are true.

[@dundonrl]

@@C420sailor That I never saw, I spent 4 years on the USS Momsen DDG-92 and about 3 on the USS Halsey DDG-97 as a Tomahawk cruise missile technician (LPO for CM division on both).

[@SyntaxError0287]

so its a cancer raygun?

[@dangermouse9494]

I believe it. The AEGIS system is f*cking unbelievable. When the Phalanx CIWS system was introduced and tested, it shot at a 55 gallon drum and then started shooting the links of the chain it was being towed by.

[@scottcooper4391]

Back when I was in the navy - I heard stories of CIWS tracking the tail end of the cable that was pulling the target - much to the consternation of the plane doing the towing...

[@Danspy501st]

I also recall from the Golf War that one of the Phalanx CIWS on one of the escort destroyers for USS Missouri did friendly fire because it thought the chaff from Missouri where incoming threat

[@amywright2243]

Please, "milk and cookies for Raytheon" on an Ugly Christmas Sweater

[@thesupportingcast6972]

Up vote ⬆️ 😂❤

[@jedironin380]

Thirded! 😎

[@kennethschlegel870]

One of my favorite stories about aegis that I have heard is that when they turned on the first test radar the screen was completely saturated and they thought the radar was broken, but instead it was getting returns off of every insect and bird in the sky.

[@blendpinexus1416]

sounds like a first prototype test to me XD, that's the neat trick i guess. is that a bird next to the radar dish? or an explosive drone flying toward me a couple miles away? whoever is at raytheon gets to figure out how that works, i just get to see the result of "we made this new system to counter your claims, yet the old system is still beating your ass into the ground"

[@geraldapollyon655]

Reminds me of a story my Commander in ROTC use to tell about the development of the CIWS (Close In Weapons System, AKA R2-D2 with a boner). The way he tells it when they first developed the radar that the CIWS would use every time they turned it on the gun would go off. For a while, everyone thought there was something wrong with it until a couple dudes were hanging out on the smoke deck watching some Seagulls when the CIWS went off and the Seagulls disappeared in a cloud of feathers. The radar of the CIWS was so sensitive it was picking up the Seagulls and designating them as targets.

[@richdurbin6146]

My favorite thing about SPY-1? It’s so obsolete we’re retiring all the Ticonderogas. The new stuff is way better.

[@kennethschlegel870]

@@richdurbin6146 my one and only ship was a Ticonderoga class, now I'm sitting here as a 37 year old feeling like a geriatric :p

[@richdurbin6146]

@@kennethschlegel870 I was on an OH Perry class. When I saw that I missed the decommissioning ceremony I felt like I missed a funeral. Now most of the ships that were active when I was are retired now.

[@boogaloobaloo]

06:59 We shot down one of our own satellites during the cold war for no other reason than to let the world know we could do it to theirs whenever the fuck we want.

[@KineticCard]

"It's not about the money; it's about sending a message."

[@codemachinist2842]

uss lake erie. 2008. The"special program" was deleted though. 😂😂😂 They simply bypassed some soft locks which only exist to limit what high zenith contacts spy1 can pass from search\track to target.

[@m1a2abrams50]

For a very long time now the United States has always known when a Russian or Chinese submarine leaves port and where it generally is at all times, so accurately in fact that there is a database for all US submarines and acoustic operators that they can identify each submarine specifically based on it's acoustic profile. I heard this as word of mouth but supposedly there was a point in time just out of a measure of good faith that the US embassy in Russia notified them that one of their submarines was having maintenance issues while on deployment because the operator could hear something akin to a turbine failure, and actually got in contact with the American submarine that was trailing it which told them which side of the submarine the turbine was that having problems. The Russians at the time told the Americans that they didn't even have a sub in that area. That submarine then turned around and went back to port.

[@haveaday1812]

Greatest military on earth < mountain dwelling goat herders. Womp womp.

[@DFVaun]

​@haveaday1812 you say that like the US couldn't just go back and delete the whole of the middle east if they wanted to, not even using the nukes. 😂

[@awhiteknight1999]

The guy with the glasses and hat is giving me Jurassic Park Hammond vibes.

[@Al-Is-Gaming]

Ryan Macbeth

[@x808drifter]

More Dennis Nerdy with the hat from the guy from the other company he was meeting.

[@chainsawsubtlety9828]

"Welcome... To Autistic Park."

[@hankwinters5787]

I was confused by the statement till I seen him lmao

[@Liam_Mercer]

Hat is HabitualLineCrosser

[@sgtfrog6575]

Brandon's face when hears that missile can basically do a baton pass was priceless for me.

[@alextune5009]

Quick Sink - Thing to remember is ships are not self supporting structures. They rely on the water to support their weight. Pick one up from the middle the ends will collapse and fall apart. Pick one up from either end and the center will collapse and the ship will fall apart. Quick Sink just removes the support from the center of the ship. It doesn't even need to hit the ship itself. It's all old tech really, most torpedoes rely on the same concept. Remove the supporting water from underneath the ship.

[@ThirdLawPair]

I think it's essentially just a JDAM glide bomb with anti-ship capabilities in its guidance system.

[@rccola5167]

With old torps (ww2), they would set the depth just under the keel and crack it. After they finally got the magnetic detonator working.

[@tonychoe4172]

A directed energy to crack the keel then a void explosion, ship is in two pieces.

[@brianv1988]

It's just a JDaM with upgraded guidance and very easy to produce most of our aircraft can carry it since it is basically the same as our ground attack version it's just a cheaper way to sink a ship with the power of a torpedo packed into a already in use system that is easy to produce we have been using the unguided version since Vietnam and these are just upgraded guidance kits they put on the same type of unguided bomb to give them precision accuracy and if it's the ER variant a lot longer Glide range

[@patientXero]

Bros, as a former sailor on an Aegis class DDG, I can confirm, this shit is sick. It can turn an entire ship into an automated fighting platform designed to take our hundreds of enemy targets within a minimal time frame... from incoming missiles and projectiles, to enemy aircraft and ships... the point these guys just made about it being 1980's technology is valid. Whatever replaces Aegis will be legititmately insane, as most of the world doesn't even appreciate the full extent of the capabilities our military has just based on this nearly 50-year-old tech.

[@nlee5034]

🤣😂🤣 “what went through their mind?” “I can tell you… 556!” 🤣😂🤣

[@greenhaloxbox3850]

The "I could tell you" with a shit eating grin gets me 😂

[@delphy2478]

lets be honest, Aegis is the USA's attempt to implement the 3rd person top down view that you get in fleet combat video games, except in real life

[@benjaminoechsli1941]

"Man, can you imagine how busted a 3rd-person view would be in real life?" "... Yeah..." 🤔 💡

[@hunttraining191]

Had a F117 fly over me in the middle of Nevada 200 feet off the ground. My first thought was damn I thought those were retired. Guess not

[@ISAFMobius18]

From my understanding they unretired a few to act as mock cruise missiles for helping train new pilots. I guess the Nighthawk's RCS, speed and maneuverability is very close to that of a modern cruise missile. So new pilots train by trying to locate and chase them down

[@hunttraining191]

@@ISAFMobius18 interesting

[@dundonrl]

They are retired from active combat, but are still used for training. (they retired them because we have much stealthier aircraft in our inventory now) and the F-117 is a bomber, not a fighter!

[@ab5olut3zero95]

Got to see one fly at ShawFest back in early 2000’s. It was surprisingly quiet, as in, I’m sitting along the side of the runway watching this black dart take off, and it’s only as loud as a hairdryer in the next room.

[@ab5olut3zero95]

Got to see one fly at ShawFest back in early 2000’s. It was surprisingly quiet, as in, I’m sitting along the side of the runway watching this black dart take off, and it’s only as loud as a hairdryer in the next room.

[@EchoTangoSuitcase]

Two things: 1. The quicksink functions by using pure kinetic energy to shove a dumb bomb right through the ship so that it comes out immediately below it before the bomb detonates, which literally lifts the ship out of the water and breaks it's back. 2. The REALLY scary thing about fighting the US military is that, due to our culture and the way we train, ground units can remain combat effective down to ONE single man.

[@jamison884]

Quicksink doesn't go through anything except water. It lands within a meter or so from the side of the intended ship, splashes down into the water, and detonates once below the keel. It's an awesome weapon, but it really is just a dumb bomb attached to a JDAM kit with some programming to offset from the center-point of the target (ship) and a change to the fusing.

[@EchoTangoSuitcase]

@@jamison884 - Thank you for mentioning that. I realize now that I was unintentionally conflating it with a ballistic weapon that is meant to push right through the deck. And now I can't remember which weapons system I was thinking of, except that it wasn't one of ours.

[@Big_Red1]

It's basically just a torpedo that's dropped from the sky instead of shot from a submarine.

[@willysgodevil7891]

Someone had to say it..... The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't. In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was. The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be, and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.

[@TheRyujinLP]

The sad part is, this actually make sense... it's just worded in a way that only the most autistic of autists would be able to grasp.

[@pierowmania2775]

That's some Douglas Adams' level description right there! (Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy)

[@MRsolidcolor]

i have always said the F35 is a support craft. people call me crazy but a F35 in the sky extends EVERYONES range. F35 locks it F18 F22 say Goodnight to it... F35 is like the Calvary Scout of aircraft.. just saying can you tell im was 19D Gary owen!!!

[@captin3149]

Speed bump! Thank you for your service

[@Talon19]

The F-35 may not be the aircraft you love; but the F-35 makes the aircraft you love BETTER.

[@ObiWanShinobi917]

AND it's a beast up close on top of all of that. Just when you thought it was better at everything else EXCEPT close combat, the F-35 started smoking F-16s and F-15's in dogfights at red flags.

[@arthurmoore9488]

@@ObiWanShinobi917 Because the major story you hear is from a test pilot where they software limited the heck out of an early prototype.

[@BamBam88]

The F-35's job is to jam targets for other planes, jam surface radars, and sneak in and knockout surface to air missile systems. It's not better or worse than an F-22 or F-15. It has a different job. It's not made to dogfight, but it can defend itself. The F-22 and F-15 will deal with air threats.. the F-35 will avoid them and hit It's targets, which will clear airspace for the F-15, F/A-18, F-16's and anything else to be able to provide air support freely to our boys on the ground. The F-35 is another tool in the toolbox so we can gain air superiority. 👍🏾

[@dsl32]

Best quote ever: “There are two types of countries I this world those who use the metric system and those who use B-2 Bombers

[@mmorris2830]

No bro, it's "... and those who HAVE stealth bombers." Not use, have. They don't physically have them, let alone have the option to use them😂😂

[@jladelaney1978]

Does the UK have B-2s? They don't use metric...

[@mikefarino4368]

@@jladelaney1978 They do not, the only stealth plane ever allowed to be sold to other countries is the F35.

[@chrisbingley]

@@jladelaney1978 We had the Vulcan. The grandfather of stealth bombers. We didn't replace them when they were decommissioned, because America wanted us to specialise in low level bombing with Tornado GR-1s and Buccaneers.

[@Galaar]

AEGIS is so cool and it's only gotten better as the systems that make it up have gotten upgraded. The SPY-1 was a great radar, but the SPY-6 is a whole other beast. Similarly the system I worked with, the SLQ-32(V)3, is being phased out and replaced with the SLQ-32(V)6 and then we have the (V)7 on the way and it's in a different tier outright. They can do some really cool stuff with the EM spectrum that I obviously cannot describe in the KZbin comments section. Suffice to say, I wouldn't want to fight an AEGIS platform.

[@mattheww.6232]

It just seems so weird to me naval combat went even more to blue water and venturing into space combat, when everyone though it would go more littoral through my career.

[@mobiuscoreindustries]

​@mattheww.6232 Littoral was when everyone was thinking that dictatorships were just going to proxy sponsor terror groups for the next forever and obviously there your ability to project pressure on the ground from the sea was more important than you ability to project power at sea when all you had there were civilian, allies, and enemies that were staying in their lane. The littoral was your key to lob potentially "inexpensive" responsive fire at targets that really didn't warrant a cruise missile. And then China decided that actually all of the pacific was theirs, and Russia showed that "let's just do peace with the dictatorship" kinda means they can just invade and take whatever stuff they want anyways. And both have conventional navies, airforce and rocket forces that need to be dealt with using appropriate systems.

[@thronedry6718]

The fact that it chased the missile in to the ground just speaks volumes. It wanted the kill so bad it pursued it into the afterlife. As far as missiles go.

[@benjaminoechsli1941]

"I'm dead anyway (due to being launched), so I'm taking you with me!"

[@GentlemanBystander]

"What?" -Brandon Herrera Edit: It's adorable they're *_JUST NOW_* finding out about the RIM-161 bloc IIA/III

[@christopherhill6570]

This podcast is off the chain best podcast yet

[@jerimenolan4809]

Had no idea they all got together and could be that entertaining myself.

[@karlstreed3698]

I had a Spec Ops C-130 pilot ask me how low he had to fly to avoid SAM systems. I told him 50 feet. He thought about and said the tail is 56 feet tall. I told him that he now understood the problem.

[@ElementaryFootball]

The C-130 Hercules military transport aircraft is 38 feet, 3 inches tall. So, that Spec Ops pilot didn't know the specs of his aircraft, or more than likely, this is a made up story.

[@lochslea]

​@@ElementaryFootballor if we *really* want to give them the benefit of the doubt, they gotta fly at least 18 feet off the ground to avoid colliding with terrain.

[@saladking2370]

"Cookies and milk out for Raytheon" is a shirt 😂

[@codemachinist2842]

For reference it's older than the 80's. The AWS is derived from tartar and terrier. There are still components from them in it. As for the warhead the SM's(depending on block variant) have a conical shaped war head or an expanding ring of rods. Translation. "Hello, I'm from the us navy perferation command", or "Your order of a remotely operated chainsaw has arrived, an SH-60 is standing by to assist in your recovery should you have been able to exit the aircraft before disection". It's best said the SM2 blk4 has a speed of mach oh my god and a range of AT&T. It will reach out and touch someone.

[@edwardagin9744]

SM-6 has superseded almost all of the previous versions. Considering SM-3 could take out satellites I can just imagine the new AIM variant being used to take out BMs or satellites while coordinating info from other sources.

[@scottcooper4391]

FIrst time I heard of the AIM174B my first thought was "Reach out and Touch Someone" ....

[@ljessecusterl]

And they upgraded it with the AMRAAM's seeker system. So some madman at China Lake has a sense of humor because AIM-120 AMRAAM+AIM-54 Phoenix=AIM-174B.

[@Claymore_Chicken]

It might be just be a neat coincidence, because the AIM-174 is derived from the naval RIM-174.

[@MarinaOlsgaard]

I don't know what any of that is, but I am slightly terrified.

[@scottzagger]

AMRAAM seeker but a wider sensor.

[@Rosatodi2006]

Nope. SM-6 is RIM-174, R for surface launched. A is for air launched.

[@eclipsegst9419]

@@Claymore_Chicken Give it to the Navy to be rimming instead of aiming lmao.

[@MagosPudding]

"The Warthunder of Podcasts" Damn 🤣

[@Strykenine]

The AIM 174 is a rocket powered telephone pole.

[@ThirdLawPair]

And I think it fits inside the internal weapons bay of the B-21 raider

[@rccola5167]

So are Russian sams.

[@ThirdLawPair]

@@rccola5167 But Russian SAMs are notoriously easy to countermand.

[@JaxxonBlaze69]

I want a podcast that's just Nic, Brandon, and HLC. Gun tism, missile tism, and history tism in the same episode, every episode. How cool would that be?

[@pierowmania2775]

There's a reason I subscribe to all 3 of them. They feed MY 'TISM! Lol! I was reading Naval Institute Press history publications in Jr. High. It's special to find other people who are as interested in similar stuff.

[@KnawedOne]

Add Ryan and you’ve got tech tism

[@JaxxonBlaze69]

@@KnawedOne ooh, how about we get Nic and Brandon on an episode of Adeptus Ridiculous? Make them Warhammer nerds

[@alexloveshistory26]

"A telephone pole comes out of the stratosphere and sends you back to your god!!" What a line!

[@amywright2243]

Missiletism is all of us.

[@condotiero860]

Goddamn it! donut operator is a smooth operator. "What goes through the head of someone that wants to fight the US?" '.556' metal AF

[@Juliet1106Tango]

Thats Brandon tho lol

[@MaelstromX70]

In 1994 I had lunch with a professor in college who was retired Air Force and had worked on the SDI program. When asked what he could tell me about it, he thought for a couple seconds and said “all I can tell you is… it works.”

[@kanagawakenji7]

6:10 If your boat is not at sea level, something has likely gone awry.

[@bransonwalter5588]

I want mine to be able to fly so that they don't expect the air navy.

[@LeonardChurch33]

"Make sure to leave cookies and milk out for Raytheon tonight" 4:50

[@apolloaero]

Quicksink is basically a JDAM with a modified seeker. The seeker is designed to miss the ship by so many feet, and it explodes underwater next to it. So it acts like a torpedo in essence. The beautiful thing is that there's JDAM-ER and P-JDAM, so they can combine the seeker on the Quicksink and potentially create cheap stand-off cruise missiles or stand-off bombs. As for SM-6, it has land attack capabilities as well as anti-ship. As well as anti-air and even some ABM. In fact, the MDA stated that it can defeat some hypersonics SM-3 is Hit-to-Kill like PAC-3. SM-6 is like an SM-2 with a booster Also, Aegis Combat System has been continuously upgraded, like the Patriot

[@jonathandenny9133]

"Theres two kinds of countries in the world. Those that use the metric system and those that have stealth bombers" 🤣

[@dogfacedgremlin2020]

My brother was fire control tech on a Ticonderoga cruiser. He told my the most frightening thing about the aegis system is, you can't hide from a radar that can track wave tops. You can't overwhelm it because it's integrated. You can't fly over it it can track objects in low earth orbit. Only way to not be tracked by it is to just stay in port.

[@davidshaffer9857]

I served on a carrier battle group in 1986 that had one of the first aegis ships. The USS Ticonderoga

[@Beard_Hood]

Remember lads, tech that exists and is common use is 30 years behind what is actually out there. My wife's grandpa worked Army Corp of engineers, most of what he did is still classified lol. But he told me once that in the 70 they could see the face of a dime from space in 1080p. Lol. He is also the one who told me tech is 30 years behind what actually exists.

[@jsquared1013]

It's fun to talk about, but the reality is that the stuff being developed now is still probably a decade away from reaching service. Regardless, it's still great trash talk fodder when "near peer" rivals brag about developing something we've had in service for decades 😂

[@suprestoner]

That is absolutely terrifying but expected

[@nedkelly9688]

@@jsquared1013 Ye weird SR72 is years away but Australia has world fastest scramjet at mach 12 will test fly in less then 300 days, Australia helped USA in hypersonics since Ray Stalker was 1st to get essence of flight from scramjets. Lot of Australia tech in USA military lol.. You are not the smartest humans on earth as your egos make it....

[@kevinwillard7450]

@@nedkelly9688 The first test flight using scramjet was a joint effort of NASA and Russia in 1991. As for the SR72, there's no reason to build it. The current capabilities that we KNOW of more than make up for any possible use the SR72 would have.

[@bransonwalter5588]

​@@nedkelly9688 The USA doesn't have the smartest people. Do you what it does have? The largest budget. That is a lot of room to test "what ifs" until you land on the right solution.

[@garyleibitzke4166]

Before I retired I worked on the new replacement for the Aegis radar system, AMDR. I can't give out specifics, but the capabilities of that system would blow your mind.

[@dave_bob]

An SR-71 can maneuver, a ballistic missile can't. That's why boost glide hypersonic missiles are such a threat.

[@jsquared1013]

If it's going hypersonic, there isn't much maneuvering to be done. It has to slow down to "normal" supersonic in order not to tear itself apart. Granted, that small degree of maneuverability still makes it more difficult than a normal ballistic trajectory.

[@brasidas2011]

In other news, the USN just certified PAC 3 to work with Mk 41 VLS, and they can stow and launch four missles per tube as a short range defense option over the RIM-161s.

[@mjduffyeire]

Only 1 Patriot per tube. They considered two per cell by folding the fins, but elected to avoid having to engineer a separate naval version with the folding fins.

[@88eyeguy]

I think the biggest implication of the Aegis exoatmospheric intercept is that, if we are comfortable showing we can hit a short or medium range ballistic missile at apogee, we can certainly do the same to an ICBM. Russia, China, and North Korea: take note.

[@Dfturcott]

I mean to be fair F117 nighthawks look awesome

[@philb5593]

The F-117 Nighthawks are being kept in Type 1000 storage, which requires them to be maintained to keep them airworthy. A couple are known to occasionally be pulled out and flown as adversary aircraft or as part of other developmental technology programs. Apparently they are demilitarizing 3 aircraft per year with about 45 still in flyable condition.

[@n3r0wolfe]

"i'll show you" LOOL, so good

[@colonelilbrink8544]

I caught this as well. When Nic Says, "I'll show you", I hit my life's pause button.

[@cliffsta87337]

HLC is one of my new favorite KZbinrs.

[@GT-mq1dx]

First thing I think of when I hear Aegis missile systems is not the Arleigh Burke class destroyer but the Ticonderoga Class Cruiser. 😎

[@johnediii]

Guys, check out Operation Burnt Frost. 2008 we shot down a satellite from an Aegis ship. I was teaching a class for Symantec that day and I mentioned it as being cool and a dude in my class said "Oh yeah, I wrote the device driver for that when I worked at HP." Apparently the computers were made by HP and this guy wrote the software that actually launched the missiles.

[@coleeto2]

So excited to see Ryan McBeth on the pod!!!

[@ThirdLawPair]

I think it would be cool to have Alex Hollings too

[@limeyprat]

"God, making sure to leave cookies and milk out for Raytheon tonight..." Best defense contractor joke ever,, I literally cried laughing!

[@tonynunya8063]

Missile that goes down your chimney? It names itself. Call it the Santa Claus

[@marchemsworth213]

Fantastic to see Ryan Macbeth join the group. He adds an additional layer of intelligence and information that so many other podcasts are missing.

[@colonelilbrink8544]

Make sure to leave cookies and milk for Raytheon tonight.

[@navyjam]

Retired Aegis tech here. The SM-3 was originally developed for the BMD (Ballistic Missile Defense) program. SM-2 ( and by extension SM-2 ER) have prox warheads (normally). SM-3’s usually have kinetic kill warheads. Not sure about the SM-6. Also the Aegis Weapon System while originally developed in the 80’s has been constantly updated and its capabilities are far beyond what it originally started at.

[@MasterTaters]

I'm just surprised jdam's weren't already naval capable for some reason.. Fritz X tried to do this with a barely acceptable accuracy in the hands of the germans in 1943 but it was manually guided. There are several other glide bombs developed around the time that more or less barely saw use. Also at 6:15 Brandon starts have a solemn moment for the sacrifice of the Iron giant.

[@KnightGravy]

Damn… it’s all my favorite KZbinrs in one place, and Ryan… Not a guy on screen I wouldn’t wanna have a beer with.

[@jnorth3341]

Doubt anyone will see this but the stuff you were talking about with Aegis is just a continuation of the VERY old Tartar and Terrier systems "Silent Sam". Tartar and Terrier were the predecessor to the SM-1 and SM-2 (obviously only the SM-2 survived and improved) where it was kind of the opposite of what you talked about, back then the radar had much greater range then the missiles, so the plan was to have the targeting radars on a ship outside of retaliatory range lock on to the Soviet Bear Bombers while a ship in emcon-delta (aka RF silent) launch the missiles to kill them from much closer.

[@Geno-xj9vt]

Worked on Terrier and AEGIS. 5 ships, 2 CGs and 3 DDGs. Retired FCCM. They know a fraction about AEGIS and I retired 15 years ago. 😂 We were on FTM-16 SM-3 shot before I retired. Participated in multiple TBM exercises. 14 of 16 shots successful then.

[@garrettobrien5197]

“Why is it called the quick sink” “I’ll show you”

[@JRichardsonBoston]

F117 is operated by regular usaf, even the “secret” but Janes knows hops in the Mideast. They are dirt cheap to operate and are great stealthy advisory for staining stateside

[@justsoicanfingcomment5814]

5:28 I feel that...😢

[@ardantop132na6]

I feel Quick Sink is when the SKUNKWORKS look at Bermuda Triangle and goes "I can sink it faster."

[@DeeEight]

AEGIS is the command and control system hardware and software. The SPY radars come in different flavors and some are inherently better suited to ABM work than others. The Spy-7 series, which is a derivative of the Long Range Discrimination Radar, an Alaskan ground based radar system for tracking and intercept guidance of exo-atmospheric ballistic missiles. AN/SPY-7(V)1 is being used for the AEGIS ashore system in Hawaii. the (V)2 is for the future Spanish F-110 class construction and (V)3 is for the Canadian River class destroyers. Now the F-110s have the international AEGIS fire control loop and only 16 Mk41 tactical length cells for quad-packed ESSM (so they can illuminate a target for another ship in a task force), but the River class have the full AEGIS capability and 24 strike length Mk41 cells so if Canada wants to buy some SM-3s they could not only track and illuminate a ballistic missile target but fire an interceptor at it also.

[@FallsNight]

One of my favorites is the new stealth missiles we made.

[@robertmantell1700]

1:46 - I see some White Claws, crap ass'd light beer, what looks to be bourbon mebbe, and then a can of Old Bay. You guys know how to tear one off!! Good stuff fellas and thanks for this vid!!!

[@lmj420]

0:47 - Here we see a Ballistics Nerd achieve an eraction! 😂😂

[@Giveme1goodreason]

I’d suggest that the F18 missle will work with everything, but would be specifically used with the Australian made Boeing Wedgetail. Which is an Airborne combat command centre. That’s basically the pentagon with wings and epic radar. That America and Britain saw Australia using in Afghanistan, and Britain went “damn how many you got?” Australia said we have 10. So Britain got 6. The USA went well son if there’s 16 in the world, I need that, plus 10. So 26 are now on order.

[@OriginalEvil]

Just wait till they find out about super heavy telephone poles falling from space. And Franklin.

[@owenhardy7035]

Haha rods of god go *brrrrrrr*

[@litemup8187]

I as so THANKFUL for living in the greatest country in the world with this guy who just geeked out on our missle systems because of people like him we have make these systems possible!! 🇺🇸 🇺🇸

[@StephenNatoli-l6j]

Nowhere near greatest you inbred retard, the only things we are the best at is military spending and prison population

[@derrickdinwiddie8759]

The dude bleeping the F word is too drunk to get them all 🤣

[@bitfreakazoid]

If I'm remembering correctly the Quicksink is basically an air dropped torpedo designed to drop in the water right next to the ship, and torpedo's are so lethal because they detonate under the keel of a ship basically cracking it in half.

[@50shadesofaustralia98]

I feel 90% confident that between watching this episode and most of habitual line crossers content I am on at least 2 government lists which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that I happened twice

[@MiishaKorvian]

Only two? Rookie numbers. XD

[@kadenblanch6482]

The exoatmospheric missile may be practice for later on anti-spacecraft/orbital strikes. Kinda like how they used an ASAT in the ‘80s. Not only is it a “look how good we are at shooting down nukes, bet you can’t win a nuclear war” thing, it’s a “look how good we are at shooting down your warship on its way to the moon” thing too.

[@patrickquery7263]

ahem, TR-3B anyone

[@sethb3090]

ASAT isn't just about nukes. The first thing that will happen in World War 3 is orbital comms getting yeeted.

[@blendpinexus1416]

don't worry guys, i haven't passed out from the laughter....yet.

[@nattybumpo7156]

I cannot imagine a better missile truck than Grandpa Buff. Just imagine how many homicidal telephone poles a BUFF could drag into a contested airspace.

[@willtaylor7123]

"Just do it" NIKE missles Get it?

[@ISAFMobius18]

The US perfected 2 things. BBQ and making things go boom

[@oculosprudentium8486]

Actually the SM6 missile interceptor missile on the cruisers and destroyers are designed not only to intercept incoming aircraft and missiles,but also ballistic missiles fired at them, to hit them at 100 miles up in the air So it has a a very long reach vertically, and a much longer one horizontally too

[@nathanielalaburgDelhi]

The greatest podcast ever I would pay money to keep hearing these guys talk!!!!

[@nathanielalaburgDelhi]

You are missing Jake Boe tho!!!! Nuclear weapons expert!

[@krisvires]

"... sucks to not have Howard Hughes!" Correction: Jack Northrop, he's the original flying wing bomber guy, and if the Air Force had some balls we would have had them since the end of WW2.

[@ROE675]

Who touched my boats?

[@NoNo-xt8ku]

The amount of White Claws and energy drinks on this table will never not be funny

[@CW-nj2fn]

Not an expert but my understanding is that the quicksink is essentially a jdam designed to go underwater, explode, and lift the boat out of the water (to some extent), at which point it falls back onto the surface breaking itself catastrophically.

[@OOZ662]

My Kerbal Space Program experience tells me that a projectile should be its slowest at apogee, and would be the easiest to hit precisely so long as the interceptor can get to it.

[@dantreadwell7421]

Hell naw, I think of Ageis system and I think of the Ticonderoga class Cruiser. I undersand from even a force perspective, having several Burke class DDGs for every Tico gives you more platforms, both launch and sensor, and deeper total magazine space, but damn I loved those things.

[@mikesuch9021]

It doesn't have to hit the boat it actually sinks it feeling the water around it with air.

[@SinisterMD]

It's not so much that it chases you but is is guided, like a JDAM. It hits just beside, then under the keel, essentially breaking the spine of the ship.

[@davidturney2975]

They find it and calculate it faster than you can realize it was a pointless flight

[@jonathanoriley8260]

The conversation about AEGIS being able to use the detection capability of one ship to launch a missile from another ship made me think of something... I think the only video game that ever tried implementing a "data-link" system for weapons outside of sims like DCS was Command & Conquer Generals, where (funny enough) the Patriot defense structure can relay targeting to other nearby Patriots so that those other Patriots can also shoot at the target even if the target is outside their standard range. It was pretty basic and the "data-link" range was fairly short, but it was still an interesting and unique idea that I wish other games (including future C&C titles) would have expanded on, especially in the RTS genre.

[@phouleSk8s]

1:56 “I don’t know what was going through peoples minds when they fight the US…” “I do…. It’s 5.56.” *ded*

[@samwise413]

Ya always cracked me up when people say they can sink a carrier. Do knowing how many ships and plans they have to get past first? They wole Fleet is one ship 😅

[@RatchetTrashPanda]

The Missile that goes down your chimney, should be called The Chimney Sweeper

[@ChevTecGroup]

HB, there are more than 4 nighthawks in the inventory. We've only divested a small part of the fleet and the rest were kept in flyable storage. Theyve been getting a lot of training and development flight missions lately so a lot are coming out of storage

[@kwonekstrom2138]

QuickSink works on a very simple concept. It displaces the water underneath the ship. The shock of the concussion will severely damage the vessel but when the "void" collapses this is much greater force. Just think about a hole opening up in the water and sucking the boat down underwater... if it doesn't fit, just break their back, they'll fit.

[@ralderick_]

this was such a fun episode!